Well that was... Dare I say... Mindblowing ending! So, was

Can you actually open? What happened? you get a game over or a bad ending?

Yep, just a corpse. Nothing special really, Jack just got lucky with the stuff that went down. I'm guessing he anticipated that Lacroix would eventually find some way to get it, and that he's the only one with resources to also find the key. That's why he kinda pushes you multiple times to maybe stay out of the big disputes and do what you think is right. If you mindless go along with Lacroix, you also get fucked up. Jack got lucky, but honestly Lacroix had the highest chance of getting the sarcophagus with his resources and pull. That or one of the other leaders of the vampire clans get it, to which I doubt he'd mind them getting blown up either. The people he cares about have no interest in the sarcophagus, so it's a safe bet that whoever does get it will be a fair target.

Jack has been around for a while. Add to it his apparent connections to Mr. Taxi Driver, and I wouldn't even be surprised if he hand some understanding of events that could come to pass.

>>385594965
OP here, since I'm a retard, forgot to mention that I opened it.
you blow up and Homeless Jack laughs at you

>>385594965
You can open it if you either work with Lacroix or beat Lacroix and choose to open it yourself. In both cases, you just get an ending where you get caught up in the explosion. So, essentially yeah, bad ending.

>>385595104
>forgot to mention that I opened it.

You doofus. Tons of people tell you to avoid it. The seer chick at the beach, the werewolf scholar guy, hell, even Jack kinda hints at you doing your own shit instead of getting too involved. Ah well, curiosity gets the best of everyone sometimes.

>>385595231
Well, I wanted to see on OG vampire and maybe get some power while I'm at it, highly doubt that LaCocks would share it, though. I was expecting a boss fight with him, but the game blew my expectations to smithereens

The gist is thus.
Jack is effectively the oldest most powerful vampire in the city, arguably.
He knows about the coffin way in advance, as do most people, but he ambushes the boat before it even hits the dock with the intention of diablerizing a fucking antediluvian.
He kills everyone on board, realizes the coffin is a waste, fills it with the explosives he was going to use to take down the ship to clean up the evidence as a trap, and fucks off to see how everyone's heads roll for this.

>>385594781

Nothing important was in the Ankaran Sarcophagus; Even odds it was an tangentially related relic or a fake. Point was that the most powerful force in the region was going to get it,
and when they did, they were also "going to get it".

The lesson kids, is if you can't make your own ascension, store-bought is not fine.

>>385595326
There is another ending where you fight la croix, open the coffin for yourself, and still get blown to shit.

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>>385595518
I fucking love this game

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>>385595326
Hah, you greedy bastard.

My friend and I played through it around the same time like two years ago. I got the fuck everyone ending (pic related), and my friend went with Lacroix because he was roleplaying a good employee. It was hilarious hearing about his reaction to it all, with him just saying explaining how he just wanted to do a good job.

>>385595445
Jack is old but he's still surprisingly high gen.

Strauss, the Sheriff and Andrei probably got him beat in direct power. Strauss is a few 100's older and it's likely the same for Andrei.

>>385594781
Aho da?

Caine was originally inside, but Jack opened it very early in the game allowing him to escape and get a "Taxi Driver" disguise to spy on vampires of the city, he used his immense Presence to always lure you the player as well as other vampires to him whenever they needed a taxi.

So essentially, all the game everyone was fighting for an empty coffin desu.

>>385595518
>>385595609
>Killing MC at the end for being a sellout cuck
Seriously, why games don't do shit like this anymore?

>>385595791
>empty
Well, not quite

>>385595791
c'mon anon, don't be a faggot like that

Who would win between the cammies and Mr Ox

>>385595880
>anon
>not a faggot
do ho ho ho ho
Your forgetting where you are

>>385595817
It makes the player feel like they may have, god forbid, made some kind of mistake when playing the game. Which you can't have the player feel bad or that they messed up these days.

Last game I played that had just an outright, "You fucked up," ending was The Witcher 3. Treat Ciri like a child that can't do anything for herself? Act like you're selling her off for coins? Well then she isn't going to be able to stay alive, or she just doesn't want to come back. Geralt goes on one last mission for revenge, and gets killed. I liked the fact that you could just plain and simple mess up.

>>385594965
So you sided with Max or Ming Xiao

>>385595145
If you side with Anarchs or go Independent and let La Croix have it, you can see what's inside without being caught in the flames.

>>385596043
Sure, but I think the anon was just asking what happens if you do get caught up in everything. To which there's no game over screen, nah, bad ending fucker.

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>finally get to the ending
>time to open this shit
>guy i spared before cucks me and dumps me in the ocean with the sarcophagus
HOURS DOWN THE DRAIN

>>385596025
>It makes the player feel like they may have, god forbid, made some kind of mistake when playing the game. Which you can't have the player feel bad or that they messed up these days.
Judging by this faggot >>385596129
, you're 100% on the money. Fucking kids, man

>>385595445
What about the Taxi Driver

>>385596234
He's just a hardworking honest taxi driver. Nothing more.

>>385596285
>t. Not Cain

>>385596234
He's certainly not anything other than he let's on, and him showing as a weird color on Auspex and freaking out the seer-insight Malk PC doesn't mean anything at ALL

>>385596234
Unlicensed driver

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>literally everyone tells me not to open it
>i open it out of morbid curiosity
>watch my stupid Nosferatu face as it gets blown the fuck up
Best part of the game.

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>>385596230
i just wanted to be an edgy malkavian on my first run

>>385596470
>literally everyone tells me not to open it
>i open it out of lust for power
>fight LeCroix for it
>barely win with my shitty charismatic Toreador waifu
>open the stupid box expecting to be Vampire God
>watch my stupidly beautiful Toreador face as it gets blown the fuck up
I wish more games had the balls to do that kind of endings

>>385596650
Live on the edge, die on the sealing.. and the wall... and the window... and the floor... and the neighboring building. Shit, that was a lot of explosives

>>385595445
Was the Jack working alone, tho? A lot of people tell you not to touch the box, but you never see them explicitly conspiring and nothing hints at that

>>385595326
>I wanted to see on OG vampire and maybe get some power while I'm at it
Diablerie ITT

>>385595326
>the game blew my expectations to smithereens
God damn it, Carlos!

>>385597440
>Diablerie
Nothing wrong with that. If i was born some borderline thinblooded cuck, i'd start doing that shit in a heartbeat.

>>385595791
I'm pretty sure it was just a regular ass mummy inside.

>>385597779
It's chilling in the lawn chair next to Jack in the ending where he watches the fireworks from afar while having a beer.

indiana jones ending was the best ending

>>385598012
>indiana jones ending
What..?

>>385598178
if you side with the tremere, strauss shows up before la croix can open the coffin and send it to some warehouse never to bee seen again

>>385598280
Huh, I need to replay that shit.

Soooo, who's the best girl /v/?

>>385598541
Could it be the ghoul who dresses up in fetishbait clothing for me and lives to satisfy my every need?

Nah.

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>>385598636
>wanting a clingy unstable mess
Bitch gonna stab you in the heart and tie you to church roof to watch the sunrise if she even thinks that you have another hoe on the side.

>>385598727
That would stop her supply of vitae.

>>385594781
>>385595064
>>385595445
>>385595489
>>385595791


First, we don't know if it actually was just a regular non-sobrenatural mummie in the sarcaphagus or if it was an old vampire in torpor.
But it wasn't Jack's plan. Jack may be old and smart, but not so much.
It was Taxi Driver plan, that contacted Jack with the offer to his plan problably before the game even started (I guess there's even an e-mail hinting that), a plan to shift the control of the vampire in LA. And Jack liked it and acted as a pawn of the taxi driver.
In the end, Jack even says that everything happened as "you said it would", to the Taxi Driver. Also, the archeologist only discovered the sarcophagus because SOMEONE gave him a hint - probably the taxi driver, not Jack, specially because if Jack knew of the sarcophagus before the archeologist, he would just go there and take it, instead of waiting it to arrive by the boat.

tl;dr: It was all taxi driver plan, not Jack. And we don't know if it was just a normal mummie or an ancient vampire.

>>385595326
Me too anon. Not just because of the power, but because I wanted a harder boss fight, in the end game all boss fights are really easy (including Ming Xiao if you know how to deal with her). I usually barely even use any healing item. Feels like all side quests I did for exp are for nothing. I wanted a fight where I had to optimize my build, collect all exp points, use all my healing itens and ammunation, be very skilled, and get lucky to win.

But the game was very unfinished, I guess a super-boss fight wasn't in the priorities.

>>385598770
>implying crazy bitch wouldn't just a her next to your smoking ashes
You underestimate the power of crazy. My ex tried to poison me, herself and my mother because she thought i was cheating on her. Luckily the bitch can't do anything right and we just had to get our stomachs pumped.

>>385596285
I wonder who could be behind this post.

>>385596234
The local Uber driver.

>>385599451
A humble Driver, who only tries to provide for his family.

why no one is making their own custom campaigns ala fallout new brasil or skyrim enderal stlye?

I long for a secon vampire game, paradox-the new publihers who are making `5th` edition (they call 20th anniversary the 4th) hinted a possibility of bloodlines2 though

>>385598971
And the ghoul is literally enslaved to the player via blood that acts like mindbreaking crack times a million. Not really comparable.

>>385598971
Just because you got along with a crazy doesn't mean all crazies are alike.

>>385594781
Jack obviously didn't know shit about some age old sarcophagus, but caine did and told Jack.
Jack then tipped the prof who dug it up and put it on boat to LA.
Then they started the rumours that there's ancient inside and when the ship got close to LA he got aboard, killed the crew, took out the mummy, filled it with explosives and made it look like it was opened from inside.
After that they just hanged back and let Camarilla, Sabbat and Kuei-jin tear each other apart to get their hands on it and whoever wins gets blown the fuck off by the bomb.

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>>385600382
>doesn't mean all crazies are alike.
Of course it doesn't, but that ghoul chick is the definition of the "obsessively clingy" She'll either tie you up in the basement and "love" you her way, or tie you up under the sunrise, so nobody else would have you. The sisters are more stable than her, for fucks sake.

>>385600517
Can you pick me up in 12 hours from the beach? Thanks

>>385600651
t. Doesn't understand what blood bonds are

Was anyone here retarded enough to actually side with the chinks?

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>>385597779
>WoD
>regular mummy

Come on, now.

One of these days..
One of these days I'll play this game..

>Kill la croix in a very badass scene
>Leave without opening the coffin in an even more badass scene

Fuck this was so satisfying

So it was a bomb inside the sarcophagus, why did they make such a big deal out of it through the entire game?

All I remember is the horrid melee combat, what a miserable game this was, I heard fans have been trying to patch this thing together for the last decade.

>>385594781
There was never anything inside
It was all a ruse :^)

>>385602970
Are you talking about the game or my sex life

>>385594781
>tfw from Ankara
the only time my unknown city was ever mentioned in a game.

>>385603330
>tfw from Porvo
Nobody even knows where it is

>>385597725
Don't do it friend, you'll lose yourself.
Watch the bad ending of VTM:Redemption.

>>385603814
Oh fuck right off. That rule was made by powerful older vampires to keep the younger generation in check. I'd be fucking draining vamps nightly, if I was some borderline thinblooded abomination

>>385595701
Why does the Sheriff serve LaCroix? Is it ever explained? A low-gen Nagloper should have better things to do than being a bodyguard.

>>385603974
>I'd be fucking draining vamps nightly
I bet you would, faggot

Actually I remember being able to diablerize other vampires no problem in Redemption, it's only when you try to nom the big fellow that you end up going crazy.

>>385603974
every other vampire can see from your aura if you're a diablerist.

enjoy your bloodhunt.

>>385604476
>implying my Sabbaty ass gives a fuck
Feels nice not to be a cuck clan

>>385602843
It was the plot of Jack (and the taxi driver) to wipe out the top dogs of Vampire society
They purposelly made it seem that there was something important inside in attempt to get attention to it

>>385604476
>>385604627
Just a question: can you diablerize a diablerist? Do you get their powers? I'd imagine everyone is on your ass if you suck a older vamp

>>385594781
>he done opened it
You fucking dumbass nigga

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>that cut ending where you beat LaCuck's ass and hand everything over to Andrei

>>385604739
Hey, it was a gamble worth taking. All that potential power....

>>385594781
>Spoiler

Because the vampires are incredibly scared of antediluvians and the sarcophagus probably contained one. Jack somehow knew that Lacroix would end up with and boom

>>385604882
And look where your rebel spirit has gotten you.
actually it's kinda genius

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Money, right?

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>>385594781
>get numerous hints and explicit warnings not to open it
>still opens it

>>385605237
I wanna stick my dick in that boob window

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>>385603650
I know.

>>385605237
Actually, I have some ideas for the club.

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>>385595326
>>385595231
>>385595104
>>385594781

>>385605287
Well, I'm used to games where you can do no wrong and was expecting to become an edgy vampire god, or something.
Turns out this game is a genius work of art and I got BlownTheFuckOut™

Going by the fluff from the roleplaying game it could have been either a powerful vampire (methuselah level) or even a mummy.

But mummys hate vampires.

>>385605536
>But mummys hate vampires.
Wait, wait, wait... Mummies are real in the fluff?!

>>385598826
wow youre an idiot

>>385605603
>>385605536
The plural is "mummies".

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>>385605603

Here's the list compliment of 1d4chan;

Vampire: You're the bad guy. Your friends are also villains.
Werewolf: You're fighting a war, and you're losing.
Mage: You're fighting a war you already lost.
Wraith: You lost, you died, and now you're trying to avoid a fate worse than death.
Changeling: You're fighting a war you already lost and nobody is taking you seriously.
Hunter: You're fighting a war where everyone's bigger than you and trying to kill you.
Mummy: You're immortal... that's it.
Demon: You're fighting a cold war with mixed results.
Orpheus: You're mortal and dying temporarily is part of your job.

>>385603330

Holy shit I have been playing this game for a decade and this is the first time I made the connection

I feel retarded right now

>>385605714
It's a dark fantasy setting that defies reason. Grammar is flexible.

>>385605735
>Mummy: You're immortal... that's it.
Fuck. I really want to play some tabletops, too bad I have no one to play with...

>>385605735
>Changeling: You're fighting a war you already lost and nobody is taking you seriously.
Changeling cucks BTFO! Can they even recover?

>>385606086
There are online groups around. A lot of them use skype or google hangouts. Or just go /tg/ and roll some dice.

>>385605735
Wait, if everyone is losing the war, then who is winning?

>>385606156
From being pseudo-otherkin? Nah.

>>385606198
>There are online groups around. A lot of them use skype or google hangouts.
I tried that once, nobody could organize for shit and it fell apart before it started. I also hyped my friends for pathfinder, purchased a small library and tried DM:ing, but it also fell apart after three games. Because our level 3 thief tried to sneak past a sleeping dragon.

>>385606205
A member of the werewolf pantheon named the Triat, otherwise named the Weaver - whom has entangled the forces of creation and destruction in her webs.

That's the old setting though. The new setting offers a sort of reality mechanism of Lovecraft proportions in terms of power levels.

>>385605637
care to elaborate?

>>385606482
A common problem with new players is an inability to recognize that tabletop games are actually very complex. Most people just see the statline and assume that's all that matters.

>>385606613
Yup, plus permadeath is something that they don't really get and try to "play it like Skyrim" as my friend elegantly put it, when i asked him why he tried to fuck with a giant acid breathing lizard, who can cast spells, while common goblins give him trouble.

>>385605237
Nah, your ass.

>>385606958
I hope you slapped the faggot, anon.

>>385597817
I'm pretty sure it's just propped up on the chair. It's not alive.

Could anyone explain to me how mages work in the WoD? I've read what I can on them but I still don't really get how they tie in to everything as well as how their abilities work.

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I.
Am.
Jeanette!

>>385598493
IIRC you basically have to suck Strauss's dick whenever you have the opportunity as well as doing missions the way the Camarallia wants (i.e. not killing people on the ship etc.)

>>385607263
Nope, but i did fuck his girlfriend while she was dressed as a slutty schoolgirl couple of weeks later at a Halloween party. A fitting punishment.

Who is the least evil vampire in the game?

>>385602226
There seem to be a surprising number of Kue-Jin supporters in these threads and I don't know why. A no point in the game did I think they seemed like a nice organisation.

>>385607391
>>385598280
>>385598012
How come a decade ago games could do multiple endings according to your choices and now it's all color coded bullshit?

>>385605769
Me too anon, me too. I thought 'Ankaran' was just a name.

>>385607520
>Who is the least evil vampire in the game?
All of them?
Also, the logic behind siding with chinkpires is simple. Some people are just retarded.

>>385607374
Is that Skelter?

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>>385594781 (OP)
Like others have said, the taxi driver is behind everything, behind Jack's actions. He simply found a willing puppet in Jack, a person who just wants to spread chaos.

Whether or not the taxi driver is Caine doesn't matter. In the end he is revealed to be a very powerful and very old vampire from his aura. The whole game is about instilling an overwhelming dread on the world that *something* bigger is watching and waiting to awaken and destroy people's (un)lives. The taxi driver represents this powerful force that, for reasons unknown, and potentially trivial, as in, he just wants to have some fun at the expense of the vampire elite, decides push a few events so that society is torn apart.

The sense of fear and unease by every vamp in the city was not misplaced, it was just misguided at the sarcophagus. Someone was really fucking with them. And this conspiracy plot fits with what NPCs like Skelter have been telling you throughout the game, that as a fledgling, you're just a dot at the end of a very long line of older and more powerful vamps that can decide your life just by using their mind. In the lore, there are older vampires whose ability to use auspex and other mental disciplines makes them gods, far beyond what human geniuses can accomplish. They can predict events in the future and thus change it by doing something different.

The whole game's plot is just some ancient playing with the weaker, younger vamps.

Why doesn't the Camarilla acknowledge the antediluvians? Is it because of (((them)))?

Seriously though, doesn't it make logical sense, that as everyone has a sire and as generations get lower vampires get more powerful, that there are ultra-powerful progenitor vampires for each bloodline?

>>385607949
One of the few things that I like in the Kuey-jin ending is that is seems that things weren't exactly as the Taxi Driver predicted.

Like "he couldn't be so foolish to side with the kuey-jin"

then you go and yes, you can be that stupid.

Problably doesn't matter to the taxi driver, still, is nice that not everything goes alwasy 100% as he predicted.

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>>385608140
They probably existed at one point, but they're all dead now.

Antediluvians dont exist.

>>385598826
Why would taxi driver hatch such an elaborate plan just to kill LaCroix?
Unless he really liked PC's sire and got pissed that she got final'd.

>>385608209
I don't know, the dialogue with the taxi driver when you tell him about going to ming xiao doesn't reveal any surprise at his part. I think he says something about them bringing change. And that's what the starting point of chaos, or tearing apart a society is, to change the government. Whether that is with replacing it with a chinese nazi group that will cause civil war between them and the kindred, or by blowing up the cam's top dogs, change is change. So I'm not sure I'd say it's beyond the driver's predictions, you're still working within the framework to tear down vampire society management and bring about chaos.

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>>385604710
Yes, you can diablerize a diablerist. But you show up as a normal diablerist. It's not worth it unless you diablerize an antediluvian and become a vampire god.

The only clan that can get away with diablerie on weaker vampires is that one clan that always shows up as a diablerist no matter what.

>>385607351
It's all based on 'accepted reality'.
As in a mage can't go throwing fireballs around because the majority of humans on the planet think it's impossible So reality would bitchslap the mage in question.

Vamps can exists because it's God's curse I guess.

>>385608845
You forgot "muh towers".

>>385594781
did wesp move the coffin again?

>>385608518
It wasn't just about killing Lacroix, but to change the status quo of the whole supernatural LA.
He took Lacroix out of the Camarilla, the sabbath, in most endings dealt with the Kuei-jin, and also solved some minor issues (like the Priest and the plague bearers).
But most important, he did all this without any direct intervention of his part.

Still, he problably could have other means to achieve the same goal, but I guess he found this one the least troublesome/the more fun to watch.

>>385608898
That's nWoD stuff right?
Haven't really looked into it.

>RPG with different classes (clans in this case) to choose from
>only one is actually gud & fun (Brujah in this case)
Wew lad, really adds to the replay value.

>>385594781
I love you for the fact that there are still people playing it for the first time today and not going "uuuuh aged like shit, shit gameplay, horrible AI". Although were the AI not garbage and the level design a bit more Deus Ex tier it would be GOAT.

>>385609161
Tremere for blood magic
Malkavian for random dialogues & obfuscate
Nosferatu for unique gameplay
Ventrue for dominate in dialogues

>>385609161
Nossie and malk were the most entertaining playthroughs for me

Obfuscate is OP

Just finished this for the first time a few weeks ago. So what would you consider the best ending /v/? I went independent because I was sick of everyone's bullshit, plus it felt right for a Gangrel to be a lone wolf, but if I had to have picked someone I would have went with Strauss instead.

Also why can Beckett just straight up turn into a wolf and I can't? Does that just come with age and experience or what?

>>385609161
Literally the most boring clan. The only redeeming factor is celerity, but you can use Toreador for that.

Nosferatu is the most fun clan by far, malkavian if you're into the crazy dialogue and unique reactions from NPCs.

>>385609182
>vtmb
>aged like shit

wew lad

>>385608814
Which clan is that?

>Brujah

WE WUZ CARTHAGE

>>385594781
Often wondered how this game would have played out if it were isometric like Arcanum

>>385609331
Tremere of course

>>385609331
Assamite.

>>385609404
Individual tremere don't have an aura of diablerie, despite their founder having diablerized an antediluvian.

>>385609161
end-game toreador is stronger than brujah in my opinion.
also
>385609227

Gangel is the only clan that I still didn't finish the game with, so I can't comment much on it.

Not to mention the multiple endings, and differences between sexes in the dialogues, some houses specifics for certain clans.

I have a hard time believing this isn't bait.

>>385609376
Look up Vampire The Masquerade: Redemption then.

>>385609458
Ah right, forgot about assamites.

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>>385609484
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOaPkzRA7A4

>>385609467
it's probably his way of asking for advice on his options to play through the game, in a "prove me wrong" fashion

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>>385609607
Also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeTFCud1qpk

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So what clan did you pick first/is your favorite?

Toreador for me. Nothing like being a pompous ass that is goddamn fabulous. I enjoyed playing it a way that exemplified the idea of I'm way to sexy to care about all these dumb turf wars. That, and I enjoyed the idea of being able to move through human society with the fewest issues.

>>385608518
Just to fuck with them, probably. Buffing some shit tier fledgling and see all the elder getting stumped by this lowlife shit eater slaying anyone and anything

There was nothing in it but a very old mummy. That's it. Its great because in a world where the supernatural and horrible stuff happen all the time, even Vampires fall for superstitious nonsense and myths. Jack knew this from the start as did Beckett and probably Strauss. The Sarcophagus was important in that it brought all the political problems between the factions to a head as all the power hungry idiots scrambled for it, drawing them out.

>>385609862
Tremere, something about blowing people up by boiling their own blood does it for me.

The patch really fucked with me in that regard though, adding the casting animations and adding cooldowns to the blood magic wasn't really necessary.

>>385609862
Same, velocity is fucking great on them.

>>385609862
I picked Nosferatu for the exact opposite reasons. I love being the social outcast that is indispensable to the fancy ass pompous pricks that run society and force them to deal with my filthy unholy presence while trading away their dirtiest secrets behind their backs.

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>>385609862
Gangrel, becaue I love not caring about anyone or anything and just doing my own thing.

>>385610221
yiff in hell

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>>385609862
Picked Brujah first.
I just wanted to punch people.
Slightly disappointed when I realized that cutting people obsoleted punching people, but it didn't really matter when I had max celerity.

Still playing through it, honestly don't know what my favorite is yet. Malkavian was pretty fun though, and the malk girl has great outfits.

>>385609862
Picked Malk first. Nos is my favorite.

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Got "fuck everyone-get blown up" ending, that was hillarious. Had Pixies playing in my head through whole cutscene. It's a fucking millenia tradegy that we won't ever experience anything like that. And those enthusiasts who will try to make something similair will refer too much to the original, so it will inevitably become a parody.

>>385611236
Maybe Paradox can make something of the IP.
Heard that there are some VTMB devs on board

>>385611367
>Heard that there are some VTMB devs on board

n-no

>>385609954
You can use the plus patch without the restored disciplines and cast animations. There's an option in the installation. You'll lose blood theft though, which wasn't in the base game and is arguably one of the best thaumaturgy abilities.

>>385611367
They are making some werewolf game. I'm very sceptical about this one. Looks like some hippie manifesto.

https://www.paradoxinteractive.com/en/white-wolf/

>>385611602
The one with the all-female pack of werewolves.

Fuck that bullshit.

I'd like a VTM game where you play as a Revenant, so you can enjoy both the dank aspects of vampirism and the intrigue of the human politics trying to counter the various menaces of the world.

Pardox VTM game when?

Clan Lasombra is so fucking neat looking. Teleportation, armor, weapons, seekrit lairs, and even protection from the sun? Sign me the fuck up.

>>385613003
Too bad every Lasombra vampire is a fucking prick that tries hard to be as much of an asshole as possible to prove how edgy and evil and grimdark he is.

Kinda reminds me of the Tremere. Cool powers, but shitty social structure of the clan that necessitates being a cuck to your elders.

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>>385611602
>Looks like some hippie manifesto.
So its a faithful Werewolf the Apocalypse game?

The core theme of W:tA is pretty much a bunch of rode raging hippies commit eco terrorism on the 1% in a desperate attempt to win a war they're dumb asses already fucked up thousands of years ago because they couldn't stand not having the biggest dicks on the playground.

>>385613003
Tzimisce master race

>>385613110
Fuck, you'd think you'd get some offshoots here and there who decide to switch shit up. It's disciplines are fucking top notch for a combat character. Especially if you go into the Abyss Mysticism as well.

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>>385613110
>Too bad every Lasombra vampire is a fucking prick that tries hard to be as much of an asshole

Vampires being assholes? What a shock.

>>385611726
Why?

Reminder that Tremere are scum and deserve the assfucking Gehenna gives them

>>385613317
This is so comfy

>>385613420
Because it doesn't make much sense and why on earth would they give a shit about what humans do with their females?

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>>385613435
Please cease these groundless rumors about this ''Gehenna''. It doesn't exist.

Jack was working for Kain who was the taxi driver

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>>385613450
It's the comfiest/darkest location/time I can think of for a new game.

>>385613698
*muffled Downtown theme playing in the background*

>>385609862
Gangrel
>Never even took war form, just rushed for blood suckers which makes the game a walking breeze.

I love this game so much, but some stuff like max sneak and skills like blood suckers made it too damn easy

does anyone have a roll chart?

i know there is one out there

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Post your favorite in-game song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff1DjBe3LOM

Hard mode: Cannot post "Chiasm - Isolated"

>>385614262
You sure? I've never seen a roll chart for VTMB, only custom ones in individual posts...

Plus a proper chart would have to include lots of things, gender, humanity, combat type, non-combat build, clan, sect etc. due to all the roleplaying differences between characters. Would be too complicated.

>>385614524
Come around
Followed by Bloodlines

>>385614524
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ2nLMR929o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5ojz_Fcyco

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>>385614716

>Tiamat - Cain

I like you, anon. Stick around.

Go - see - Grout.

>>385614524
Santa Monica theme

Also learn to embed videos that are not from MadamMinty. Did you try to play the track you posted from in-thread?

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>>385609862
I picked malkevian because of the titty physics and schoolgirl outfit

>>385609862
Same, I was initially torn between it and Tremere, but then I realized Tremere are faggots, and enjoyed the Celerity

>>385609161
But Toreador (dialogue, guns & celerity build) and Malkavian (that dialogue) are the most only fun ones.

>>385615550
>but then I realized Tremere are faggots
>plays THE faggot clan, Toreador

anon..

>>385594781
Only the person who opened it, who obviously had the intent to diablerize the "vampire" within, would get blown up. Regardless of how things played out Jack would've had his laughs, especially considering how singularly focused on it everyone had become. Don't see where he needed luck.

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>>385595104
You're still smarter than me.

I sided with Ming Xiao.

>>385615897
I hope you had a good swim.

>>385615897
Jesus christ neonate

>>385615897
You deserve your fate, weeb

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>>385616086
>Chinese
>Weeb

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What the fuck was his problem?

>>385616774
He was a devil

>>385616774
http://whitewolf.wikia.com/wiki/Nephandi

>>385615897
What the fuck is wrong with you?

Hope you enjoyed your dip in the ocean you fucking traitor.

>>385617582
fotosketcher?

>>385617219
tl;dr?

>>385615897
>I sided with Ming Xiao.
She's fit anon, I forgive you.
Though that is the equivalent of siding with refugee's looking to overthrow our culture, so maybe not.

>>385617704
A mage, a reality warper born/gone Wrong.

>>385617707
>yfw Syrian refugees are actually caitiffs sent by Sabbat to infiltrate Camarilla controlled European cities

>>385617845
meant to say ghouls

shieet

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>>385617670
Yup, this game has a lot of potential, but I'm horrible at choosing the right screenshot locations and tweaking the options in-program, I suck at drawing and draw programs in general.

>>385594781
Courtney Taylor's VA in this game was fucking amazing.

The psychic chick on the beach, Damsel, Heather Poe and the old chick in the diner are all voiced by the same person.

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>>385613647
>Kain

>>385615897
Oh shit neonate, what are you doing

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>>385617927
Let me try it

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>>385618448
you certainly should

>>385617927
I love how much character and atmosphere is somehow added to the area because of that single palm tree

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>>385618593
I should ask anons on fotosketcher threads about their settings desu

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>>385619050
Yeah I definitely would like to ask them for advice on this specific game on what looks best, but those threads aren't that frequent in my experience. It was a stroke of luck that I found one thread and saw how good some of those sketches looked.

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Is there a game that lets you be a vampire hunter? I think my favorite mission in the game was the one where you rescue the scientist.

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>posted in first vtmb thread then went to sleep after a bit
>wake up and second thread is going
>mfw

>>385594781
>Don't really get all the fuss about the sarcophagus.
Look at the sides of it. They obviously reasoned it would contain an ancient vampire, possibly an antediluvian, hence everyone going apeshit about it.

>>385619505
Same here. Brings me joy.
VtMB threads are the only good thing left in /v/

>>385619380
There's even a game that lets you be a vampire hunter in the World of Darkness universe. Is it any good? No.

http://www.mobygames.com/game-group/hunter-the-reckoning-series

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>>385619234
Yeah I hear you lad

>>385619380
>tfw no qt vampire hunter gf to hunt agents of satan with

>>385619654
Holy shit, I'm a WoD autist and even I haven't even heard of this game before. It must be really shitty.

I'm pretty sure the vital character of the story was the Taxi Driver, not Jack. Jack was just joining in on the fun because he is a fucking anarch and just enjoys watching the world burn.
The Taxi Driver, what or who ever he is, was the master-mind behind all of it. It's implied that he is Cain: either he just got out of the sarcophagus back on the ship - or even before that, or he never was in the sarcophagus at all, possibly actually just sent the sacrophagus as a distraction or just to troll with L.A. Camarilla.
Jack just thought that would be a fun idea and joined in.

>>385619505
kek exactly the same for me

>>385619937
Regardless of whether the cabbie is Cain or not (I believe he is), it is never implied that it was Cain's sarcophagus. Hell, Cain is not even in torpor at all, according to VtM lore.

Also, the sarcophagus not only serves as a weapon to take out whichever powerful Kindred opens it (most probably LaCroix), but it also serves as a filter. Basically, whoever is after the sarcophagus, you can be sure he is a diablerist. It smokes them out.

>>385620514
>it is never implied that it was Cain's sarcophagus.
Except for the fact that - you know, that is what EVERYBODY THINKS and why everybody obsesses over the sacrophagus. That said:
>or he never was in the sarcophagus at all,
covers this interpretation. It's what makes most sense to me, too. The only thing that is left unexplained is what happened to the damn crew of the ship that was transporting the sarcophagus, as far as I remember. It's implied that something terrible leaked from it and slaughtered/spirited-away the crew while they were still on the sea. Which COULD imply that Cain (or what ever is in there) might have been in, and only escaped during the journey.
On the other hand, the dead body next to Jack in the ending that involves you opening the sacrophagus suggests that the body inside was an ordinary mummy.

I think it's intentionally somewhat unclear on this.

>>385602419
just Pirate it right now anon.

>>385605237
WHAT
WHAT
I CAN'T HEAR YOU
WHAAAAAAAAAAT
HOW ABOUT WE TALK IN MY OFFICE
>>385605458
no lol bye bye

>>385605237
Women with thick English accent are godsend

>>385620829
>Except for the fact that - you know, that is what EVERYBODY THINKS and why everybody obsesses over the sacrophagus.
Wrong. Everyone obsesses over it because they think it has a Methuselah or an Antediluvian inside it, not Cain himself. That would be WAAAAY impossible. Get your facts right.

>The only thing that is left unexplained is what happened to the damn crew of the ship that was transporting the sarcophagus, as far as I remember. It's implied that something terrible leaked from it and slaughtered/spirited-away the crew while they were still on the sea.
That's a rumor. Jack slayed them. Jack is pretty old you know. He is fucking powerful. He could easily kill a bunch of sailors like it's nothing.
Again, Cain is not in torpor in these Modern Nights, neither in the video game nor the canon lore. Stop it with your headcanon shit.

>>385594781
why is son goku hiding behind that sarcophagus?

daily reminder Malkav is the only antediluvian that can come back and not wonder what happened when he was gone.

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>>385621320
Well, then it's a good thing that Antediluvians no longer exist.

>>385621229
It's just as likely that the cabbie is Methuselah or someone like that, actually. All the game makes somewhat clear is that the is an incredibly ancient vampire.
Also, there is absolutely NO evidence that Jack was behind the slaughter of the crew. All we know that he was working with the cabbie. It's also not exactly Jacks style, to murder several dozen innocent people pretty much for no fucking reason at all.

>>385621320
How come? Some of the other surviving Antediluvians seem to be in with the things and know what's happening in the world.

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>>385621320
This guy had no issues with coming back. Why would the other Antediluvians have any?

>>385621593
Didn't Ravnos get nuked by techmages?

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>>385607374
Therese is better imo

>>385621641
He woke up really pissed off, started wrecking shit left and right, ended up getting nuked and making all nearby Ravnos eachother. Just an average day.

>>385621650
>I'm the finger down your spine when all the lights are out
Nice touch, I didn't get it the first time around.

>>385621641
Yeah, and it didn't kill him. It opened the gates of hell though.

>>385621650
I understood this reference

>>385621767
Didn't he get perma-roasted by sun-powered nukes?

>>385621545
Malkav is the madness network all malkavians share. it's even speculated that he is the one giving you subtle hints when you play the game, like when you talk to La Croix you can hear someone say "liar" and so on.

>>385621489
>It's just as likely that the cabbie is Methuselah or someone like that, actually.
Game files
Also, no Antediluvian, or even Methuselah would be as chill as the cabbie. You'd know that all Kindred of such low generation are basically frenzied demons if you had read any lore. They wouldn't sit around and drive a cab. Most of them don't even remotely look like humans. Only Cain has time for such tedious things, basically because he is a bored and depressed loser.

>It's also not exactly Jacks style, to murder several dozen innocent people pretty much for no fucking reason at all.
That's EXACTLY what he wants the main character to believe, you fool. You stupid Neonate, you fell for the Elders' games. Oh my God, I bet you think the Tremere are true vampires as well.

>>385621302
kek

>>385621767
>opened the gates of hell
I must wonder if that didn't just make a bigger problem

>>385621883
He sounds like a good grand daddy.

>>385609862
what this anon said >>385609973 as it was my first roll. I also like scaring random little shits who have a problem with the way I look.

>>385621883
You are right, but I think some of the others wouldn't be completely oblivious either. What about Absimiliard?

>>385615897
I was going to side with Ming, but taxi driver talked me out of it in the end. Got the correct ending first time.

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>tfw no gf to hunt sharks with

>>385614524
Whatever theme that plays at the Beach in Santa Monica. The song makes me think of the Karma tower from Digital Devil Saga

return the slab or suffer my curse

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>>385622213
>no bra

>>385622213
>draw tits like they're in bras
>nipples slam jammin' through the shirt

why though?

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>>385622314
Demon hunter magic, anon.

>>385622213
>it's just arm armor
I always thought it was a bionic arm or something and I never questioned it or cared to learn how she got it. I always just thought it was a "lol japan" moment. I'm glad to see I was wrong.

>>385622391
it triggers my autism so bad. just like bikini armor in cold areas.

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((((((Tremere))))))

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Friendly reminder that this guy is a giant mass of flesh chilling under NYC.

>>385622314
>Joke about Asian breasts and plastic surgery
>Vampire tits
>Peek-a-boo bra
>Dead chilly nipples hard enough to print through a bra
>Soft bra

Or as the SJWs on Wikipeida think,
>Lol virgin nerd artist doesn't know how boobs work because he's never seen them

>>385622213
Bae needs her own game.

>>385622473
Gas the Tremere, Clan war now!
Saulot did nothing wrong!
Salubri pride worldwide!

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>>385622515
*blocks your path*

>>385622548
to be fair, SJW's never see tits, male or female, since the "men" are huge betas, and the women are so fat they think tits should be swinging at the knees.

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>Threaten to kill Therese and Jeanette and Therese goes psycho for a second
>Send Patty to Pisha
>Have VV rip up the script
>Scare prostitutes daily
This is the only fun i've had in a game where I can be a total dick.

>>385622781
FUCK

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When did you realize that David Hatter was a David Hayter easter egg?

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>>385622723
Who is that girl?

>>385622473
still hilarious that the "can't believe it's not vampire" are superior in every way to other kindred

>>385622960
>Leeterr won't make more VTMB stuff

suffering

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>>385622960
>Jeanette will never suck blood of out of your erect penis after she gives you a boobjob

>>385622723
Nosferatu low humanity misanthropic asshole is legit the most fun run in the game.

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>>385622967
>superior to every other

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>>385622967

>>385622960
The finger down your spine when all the lights are out
>>385623050
they're freaks, duh

>>385595817
>>385596025
Yeah, I really wish there were more games that gave shit to the players when they rightfully deserve it.
>You have failed me. Completely, and utterly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCUTu5SjbgM

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>>385622967
Only because of their bloodbond. They are strong in numbers, but not one of them is old and powerful enough to take on a real Elder.

>>385623050
90s neogoth aesthetics. And Nossies are too ugly to try and look presentable, so they just go full retard with it.

>>385623050
Scaring people, being as contrarian as they can basically. Nosferatu have a hard on for cruel jokes on other people.

>>385623240
>but not one of them is old and powerful enough to take on a real Elder.
blood magic's one hell of a drug mate

>>385622213
>doesn't actually have a robot arm
My dreams are shattered

Susan.

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>>385622314
>>385622391
>>385622470
>>385622548

>implying it isn't mages affecting the worldwide breast population

>>385623330
So are most other Disciplines.
Plus, just because you are a Tremy, it doesn't mean you are a powerful mage. You gotta be of low generation to be an OP Tremere, and Tremere are a pretty young breed, which means there are many, many other Kindred out there that are way, way older. You can't compete with that.
Oh and, literally everyone hates the Tremere. They have no real allies. Even their creations turn against them. During a war they would be alone against the world.

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Would you?

>>385623613
Only if she didn't have necrotic marks all over the body. I can deal with random lumps of flesh and green skin, but literal open wounds? Nuh.

>>385623613
Considering that Obfuscate level 3 allows the user to cloak themselves into deity-tier beauties, then yes.

>>385623613
I have a thing for odd looking things like demons so this is up my alley. I'd just have her cut whatever is left of her hair though.

I play ventrue because they're most like me. Rich, handsome, manipulative and intelligent.

>>385623573
Don't forget how their diablerizing comes back to bite them in the butt when Tzimisce comes back

>>385623573
>Oh and, literally everyone hates the Tremere. They have no real allies
no but that's never been their goal
and no matter how much the camarilla hates them secretly, the Tremere are one of the most loyal and overall useful clans.
Who the fuck cares if folks talk shit about you behind closed doors as long as they can't afford to do anything about it.

and don't forget, diablerizing a fucking antediluvian did give their higher echelons a major power boost and what they lack in elders they make up for by having their lower class be drastically more potent than the other clans

>>385623846
I bet you're a Nosferatu irl anon

>>385623846
and a wicked sense of humour

>>385623846
>>385624000
Don't forget nihilism.

>>385623871
Of course. The Fiends would tear the Tremere a new one during wartime.

>>385623889
You are right about the forced lowering of the generation through Diablery, but still, during a war ,especially in the Modern Nights, I don't think the Camarilla would much support the Tremere. I think they would rather look out for themselves.

>>385624000
>that one madman who changed Lasombra description to ''intelligent nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor''

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>>385623871
This, in any gehenna scenario, when tzimisce comes back, both tremere and tzimisce clans are essentially fucked since tzimisce controls them through their shared blood and can transform them into a lump of flesh at will.

>>385607403

No need to lie, Anon

>>385623846
I play Nosferatu because they're like me. Ugly, NEETS, and social rejects.

>>385624115
>I don't think the Camarilla would much support the Tremere. I think they would rather look out for themselves.
What exactly would they gain from getting rid of an important ally during a time of war?
That's the entire point of their strategy, nobody likes them or their magics but when shit hits the fan you want one of them blowing up your enemies rather than your balls

>>385624127
I've heard about that one before but I don't get it.

>>385624191
eh pretty much everyone is fucked if their antediluvian comes back anyways
the Ravnos crap was pretty clear about that

>>385624362
During any normal timeline yes, but in a Gehenna scenario they would be too afraid of the things that would come after the Tremere and they would rather abandon them so they won't turn into a lateral casualty., I think.

>>385624481
Not so sure that's true of every clan. Certainly holds true for clans with antediluvians that have powerful mental disciplines (ravnos, malkav, ventrue), but others like Troile, Absimiliard etc. wouldn't be able to directly order their clan around, they would just be obscenely powerful and command through sheer force.

Also some clans' antediluvians might really be dead so these clans might be spared from the jyhad and final death.

>>385624719
In Absimiliard's case, he hates his children with a passion, IIRC.

>>385624643
in a Gehenna situation everything will be so balls to the wall anyways nobody is "sitting this one out" to begin with

>>385622890
I thought of David Hayter too because the name were really similar but I didn't he actually had an easter egg.

>>385624719
>might be spared from the jyhad and final death
Jyhad? Maybe, if they are good at hiding.
But Final Death? No. If they survive the Antediluvians they would perish by the mist of Wormwood. Even Cain will finally die because of it.

>>385624987
there are other obvious easter eggs in the game such as Romero the Zombie Slayer.

>>385624987
The name is similar. They look similar. They are both script writers.
It's subtle, but it's there. Unless it a huge coincidence.

>>385625108
but did he actually voice the character?

>>385625160
Oh, no he didn't. I said easter egg, not cameo.

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If we ever get another VtM game, I want to see Ravnos, Tzimisce and Lasombra as playable.

>>385625474
I really want to see Lasombra. I like their clan weakness and disciplines.

>>385613475
There was literally an all-female tribe in the tabletop you dumbfuck.

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why are vtmb threads so comfy?

>>385625474
Also Salubri, Setites, Nagaraja and True Brujah.

>>385606156
Yeah, its called Changeling: The Lost

>>385625657
because no one finds the need to shit post and we can have discussion. I think everyone here can get along well easily

So how come Ravnos' awakening didn't completely break the Masquerade?
Surely the world would notice a huge immortal abomination running rampant, plus nukes being fired at it.

>>385611602
>Looks like some hippie manifesto.
WW stuff is not for /pol/shits, you should stay far away, we're degenerates, we live in the night.

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>>385615897

Could you explain your thought process for going with Ming Xiao?

>>385625657
The game is a masterpiece but old enough so most idiots haven't played it. It's obscure to the level that /v/ is the only place you'll find any mention of this game.

>>385625859
No one cares about India. He would be more detectable by humans if he had woken up on the dark side of the moon, lmao

>>385609862
I just enjoy the idea of a blood magic using vampire so Tremere was my first pick. Sucks about the blood bond thing with them though but in the game you don't ever do their initiation, so there's that. Lasombra has the most interesting discipline though, fucking abyss magic, so I think they're my favorite. Wish they were in Bloodlines.

>>385625657
An old game obscure to the general public, that we've all played a dozen of times, and general love of the setting and atmosphere?

>>385609102
No, OWoD is thqt reality is based on the collective unconscious of humanity. NWoD is that reality is broken and using magic could get the broneness's attention

>>385625903
HATE VAMPIRES

>>385626004
>Lasombra has the most interesting discipline though

That's a real funny way to spell Ravnos anon

>>385626058
>wanting to play as gypsy shitskins
No.

>>385625859
does make me wonder what the WoD world would look like if the masquerade was broken completely

humans are individually weak but they outnumber the collective supernaturals like 100.000 to 1

>>385626115
Just stick to being a human, dweeb, if 'gypsy shitskins' trigger you you should probably stay the fuck away from vampire culture in general.

>>385626058
Stop right there criminal scum

>>385626204
>does make me wonder what the WoD world would look like if the masquerade was broken completely

Vampires get btfo, absolutely
Same thing happened in Dark Ages, Inquisition fucked every vampire's shit up

>>385626215
Found the tumblrina.
>muh wod is for liberals only!
It's a role-playing game. You can play as you want.

>>385623002

I think his issue is the fact that the existing models for it are really poorly done and can be only done in some basic scenes.

>>385626408
might even be beneficial to humanity
now they actually have a proper enemy to unite against in their hate
muslims and christians hand in hand staking some bloodsuckers for dawn