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Artificial Difficulty: The Game

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And I mean it unironically

>Playing for the first time after being recommended from a friend who browses /v/.
>I trust him since he has respectable taste
>Start game.
>After the character creation and completing the initial quest. I'm off to adventure...
>Immediately and I mean IMMEDIATELY attacked by a group of 9(nine) mountain bandits
>get my shit wrecked.
>start back from square one
>get a party of 5(five) mates
>friend tells me to train them at the training arena first to level them up
>spend a fucking eternity to level these shits up to a moderate rank
>head out once again
>I get attacked once again, not by bandits, but deserters.
>get my shit wrecked once again
>Meanwhile I was losing denars from the expensive cost of the party
>Deserters took the rest of my Denars
>Can't start from square one cause no mony.
>quit and never touch it again.

What the fuck? This isn't a pleb filter. This is the pinnacle of artificial difficulty. The combat is fucking shit too, it copies Chivalry's combat mechanics, but its so fucking clunky and unresponsive that I fucking get killed by unintentional mistakes. The graphics are fucking shit and there are no mods to rectify this either.

I hope TaleWorlds fix these mistakes for Bannerlord or its going to sink and fail.
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>starting an M&B thread with b8
Not bad, let's see how it plays out. So who's the best kingdom and why is it Swadia?
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>>385589675
Because they're the good guys
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>>385589675
>having legitimate complaints on a game that /v/ idolizes is bait now.

Nice try derailing my thread faggot leave.
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>>385589829

Hakim is best ruler
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>>385589675
that's not how you spell "rhodoks"
>>385589870
You have a horse, dumbass, run away and do quests until you get dat $$$
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>post standard git gud reply
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Fuck I love how TaleWorlds just copies Chivalry. Its bullshit and they still fuck it up.
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m&b is about accumulating mass
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I always save scum in M&B
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>>385590121
this is b8
right
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>>385589870
if you let bandits or raiders or deserters or whatever run, catch up to you, and kill you theres no one to blame but yourself. you start out much faster than them and can outrun every hostile band. Also theres literally a spotting and map speed skill

git good
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>>385589514
>copies Chivalry's combat mechanics
I wish I could copy something four years earlier.
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>play brytenwalda
>farmers start at level 15
why would you do this?
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>>385589675
>Swadia
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>>385589514
9 mountain bandits?

9

you completed the initial questchain, and got attacked by 9 mountain bandits and THAT'S WHAT MADE YOU QUIT?

You're a pleb, lower the difficulty/character damage and try again.
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>>385589968
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>>385590271
TWO SCOOPS
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>>385589514
You started in the wrong area m8.
I had trouble at first as well because I started out in the Kerghit area. Those mountain bandits aint nothin to fuck with until you get a decent sized party.
They kicked my shit in for quite a while.

If you're just starting up and trying to get a feel for shit, try starting again and staying around the Swadian area killing small bands of forest bandits.
It's a grind for a while at first when you're just trying to figure out the game, but it gets pretty deep and fun later on.
Don't knock it because you can't catch your stride.
It's "supposed" to be realistic. You're not the chosen one, you're not a knight, you're just some dude trying to get by in a medieval world. You're gonna get your shit kicked in quite a few times before you make it, and even then you still might be knocked down a few pegs every now and again.

tl;dr, just try again, anon.
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>>385589514
>After the character creation and completing the initial quest. I'm off to adventure...
>Immediately and I mean IMMEDIATELY attacked by a group of 9(nine) mountain bandits
you get attacked by 1 (ONE) guy immediately after character creation
>get a party of 5(five) mates
recruit more, idiot
>friend tells me to train them at the training arena first to level them up
>spend a fucking eternity to level these shits up to a moderate rank
well that was fucking stupid of you.
>I get attacked once again, not by bandits, but deserters.
>get my shit wrecked once again
Don't suck at the game

You started the thread exclaiming how retarded you are, good job.
>recruit as many people as you can in the beginning (trust me you can afford it)
>get a horse
>if you wanna have fun grab a two handed sword and learn it
>if you wanna win get a lance and couched lance everyone
>profit
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>>385589514

all you need to know to not suck

is op even being serious
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>>385589514
>play the game for 10 minutes
>die
>make thread on 4chan bitching about game

why do people do this?
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>original mount and blade crashes too often to be playable on my new computer
>the best mod of all time never got a proper port
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>>385589514
Is this bait? I can't tell. You suck if you don't just run away and continue recruiting until you can raid towns and have tons of money
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>>385590520
the 1860 mod is close enough imo
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>>385590520
Correct me if i'm wrong, but arent the two gakmes similar enough to just copy the 1866 files into the warband directory?
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>>385589514
mountain blade is an rpg you dumb cunt, it's not call of duty. build your character
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>>385590208
I played chivlary first, and the combat was mechanically efficient compared to M&b

>>385590271
Reading comprehension retard. I quit the game because the fucking Deserters took all my money and made me realize how shit this game's difficulty is

>>385590395
Thanks for the advice... My friend tried to get me back into the game with similar advice to yours, but I don't have the energy to deal with the initial difficulty curve

>>385590413
>Don't suck at the game
wow.... deepest advice
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>>385589514
If you think Chivalry has better combat than this, you're a fucking retarded faggot. Please never share your shit opinion about games ever again.
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>>385589514
>warband
>difficulty
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>>385590737
Fuck no
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>>385590929
always seemed like the same thing when I played it
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>>385589870
if /v/ of all places idolzies a game, and you don't like it, then the problem lies with you
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>>friend tells me to train them at the training arena first to level them up
You what m8?
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rhococks>nords>vaeginas>swadians>sarraniggers>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit >>> niggergit canned
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>single player MB
>difficult
lol
Try the multiplayer if you wsant challenge
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>>385589514
>Can't start from square one cause no mony.
Fight in the arena to get some quick cash. Also, trade shit too.
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>>385590848
You can try to justify it however you want OP, truth is you're a retard who quit a game 10 minutes in. Don't fucking claim to know the difficulty when you can't even learn to fight bandits. You're just simply a retard
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>>385589514
git gud(pic related).

or turn it to the lowest difficulty possible, or start with an already mid game or end game character just to get a feel of things.
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>>385591087
Holy shit
how can one person be THIS fucking correct?
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>>385589675
Rhodoks 4 lyfe
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>>385589675
>FEASTED.COM
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>>385590992
It's no where near the quality of 1866, other than stability, which is a problem considering it's on warband. Nowhere near as focused and on one of the worst overworlds created.
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>>385590848
>>Don't suck at the game
>wow.... deepest advice

There is literally nothing else I can say, you just suck at the game. even with 5 other guys, taking on 9 enemies is one of the easiest things you can do in the game. Especially if you spent time leveling them through training. You have no excuse for that
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>>385591052
also that goes doubly so if your reason for not liking a game is that you suck at it
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>>385589514
>download the demo from their website
>its the full game completely free

ive downloaded a gorillion mods, what do I do now, recommendations for badass mods?
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>>385589675
>start own kingdom
>army of huscarls, rhodok crossbowmen and swadian knights
I'm literally unstoppable
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>>385590848
>WOW DEEP ADVICE

what the fuck do you expect when you can't even play the game for more than a few fucking minutes without coming to an image board for help?
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>>385590869
>If you think Chivalry has better combat than this
it does
>you're a fucking retarded faggot.
no
>Please never share your shit opinion about games ever again.
fuck off retard

>>385590684
>what are party expenses
Did you even play the game?

>>385591052
>problem is me
>the same place that idolizes Persona 5 is right
nice non-arguement

>>385591126
I detect when a game is artificially difficult by how it treats the play initially. Truth is... the game fucking treats new players like utter shit and you can't debase it retard
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>>385590848
Dude, I thought you were just baiting at first but I'm going to un-ironically tell you that you should probably kill yourself.

I can promise you you're a degenerate NEET piece of shit if this game is difficult for you.

Argue against me, faggot. Tell me why you're deserving of life :^)
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>>385589675
All of them are shit, and that's supposed to be the point, you muppet. The only Kingdom that could possibly be worth anything is one able to unify Calradia and for all intents and purposes restore the Calradic Empire, and since all the current factions are utterly incapable of doing that it falls to you, the player, to bring unity to this fucked continent.
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>>385589514
Maybe you should try fucking running away from higher level enemies you retard
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>>385591463
>what are party expenses
They are a fee you pay the people in your party. Something easily manageable by somebody not mentally challenged. This is not a hard game.
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>>385591351
The Thailand one is good if you want to genocide asians as conquistadors
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>>385591463
>Op is actually mad at mount and blade warband

nu-/v/ everyone.
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>>385591463
>Truth is... the game fucking treats new players like utter shit and you can't debase it retard
have you tried playing fallout 4 instead, you get the best arm and a Gatling gun right away so you don't have to worry about any challenges
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>>385589514
If you're crying this much, even on the lowest difficulty. Turn on cheats from the launcher. Crtl+x gives you 1000 money each time. Ctrl+t show all things on the world map. Crtl+left click on the world map teleports you anywhere. And if for some unknown reason you get caught in a battle, Crtl+Alt+F4 will knock out all enemies. There now play for more than two minutes.
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>>385591463
no OP, you can't detect artificial difficulty after one fucking fight. Stop crying a get good. You're shitting on a fantastic game on an image board because you lost one god damned fight.

>party expenses
literally a non issue after 15 minutes of playing, go play the game yourself
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>>385591679
He's a degenerate retard and that's probably one game along with a few others that he plays, Call of Duty campaigns on Easy, Fo3 on Very easy, etc.
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>>385591534
>tfw I'm still here waiting for OP to realize why he shouldn't slit his throat

tfw.
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is the shitposting OP dead yet?

Can we have a mount and blade thread?

How do I get Harlaus to stop throwing feasts when Suno is being fucking sieged
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>>385589514
Why is this game called Mount & Blade: Warband when you don't necessarily have to mount or blade? The game doesn't even have a war band too.
A more appropriate title would be Feast Beasts: Battle for Dhirim
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>>385592071
the country is called warband dumbass
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>>385589514
what's the most fun weapon in warband
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>being this fucking bad
Just watch some play through or something if your this fucking awful at a pretty easy game. Also your friend sounds like a fucking dumbass so get advice from someone else. Never bother with training fields, train through battles and have you and all your companions invest in training. By late game you can have a farmer become a knight in a handful of days.
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>>385592025
>Trying to deny the king his butters and feasts.
You sir are a traitor and a swine.
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>>385592025
you can't, swadia is too spread out on purpose to stay powerful forever. Try going with the Nords, Rhodoks or sand people for a vassalage
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I don't get the butter meme
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>>385591597
Except the fees are too fucking high if you have a party with everyone whose not a recruit

>>385591775
Yes I fucking can you TaleWorlds-Baby. A good game without artificial difficulty would be Morrowind. The game exceptionally drops you in a world and guides you through without holding your hand. The environments are harsh but since the game designers knew they were doing. They geometrically averted you from such crisis. M&b doesn't have this type of game design and shits on the new players until they quit.
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>>385592221
>throwing feasts when the Rhodok degeneracy have Uxhal and Vaegaerian horse fuckers have Dhirim

You only have to make me Marshal one more time for all your problems to go away, Harlaus. ;_;
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>>385589514
>having friends who browse /v/
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>>385592360
OP stop replying you retard we're having vidya discussion here

Todd, go back to shilling TES somewhere else
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>>385592328
In one of the most popular mods for Warband, Floris, there was a bug where raiding Swadian villages gave you nothing but butter, and shitloads of it. It was funny so they rolled out an optional patch to fix it.
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>>385592360
Shut the fuck you absolute nigger, both Morrowind and Warband are great games
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>>385592514
The meme came from Floris? I'm genuinely disappointed
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>>385592360
stop being a new player then, you retard
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>tfw starting in the Khergit lands, building up a big warhorde of horsemen and horse archers
>utterly shrek every neighbouring army and village I raid
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I'm starting a new iron man playthrough. Vanilla, Floris, or try something new?
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>>385592395
>Vaegaerian horse fuckers have Dhirim
Someone else will siege it in 5 days tops
>>385592652
Dickplomac
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>>385590395
>Not the chosen one
>Reunite Calradia in half a year
okay
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>>385592624
I mean it goes hand in hand with the feasting meme that came from Native so it kinda evens out.
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>>385592481
This. OP should be banned for rules 1 and 2.
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>>385592025
>not letting them take Suno, then take it for yourself.
I literally owned Dhirim, Suno and Uxhall just by doing that in one of my saves(I also attended a lot of feasts so Harlus loves me like the son he never had).
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>>385589514
The main problem you seem to be having is in picking your targets. Don't be fooled by the fact that you can fight them from the very beginning, some enemy types are much stronger than others and will shit on you if you try to take them on without knowing what you're doing. Mountain Bandits are one of the stronger bandit types, and Deserter groups will typically be made up of medium level military units, as you might guess by the name. At the very beginning, you should really only be taking on Looters until your troops have been upgraded a few times, or you've hired some decently strong mercenaries. Speaking of which, don't even bother with the training arenas, battling is much better for upgrading troops.
Once you get decent at the combat, you can make a good bit of money by betting on yourself in tournaments. Be aware however, each time you win a tournament your odds of winning in that city will increase, and you'll make less money from bets. They'll recover over time, and you can wait it out by going to compete in tournaments in other towns. If you enter the arena, you can ask the tournament master where future tournaments will take place.
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>>385590520

Oh bruh this mod is good
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>>385592652
Floris Evolved>Floris Vanilla
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>>385592652
Dickplomacy, female. So that way if you fuck up, your character will forever be a sex slave.
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>download pop
>join sarleon
>one year later we're down to two towns and a castle
Is this faction supposed to be on a timer like swadia?
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This thread makes me wanna reinstall this game again.

Are there any mods that give you pretty companion or followers and such? I thought there was one mod where your top companion follows you into town or something.

Any suggestions?
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>>385592782
I used the training areas,

just spammed it

took some time but when you've got a good sized army you can build some nice units with it
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>>385592824
yeah, it's in the middle, innit? although in my games it's always the Fierdsvane that gets rekt, then the Empire both by the D'Shar who are really strong in 3.8.
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>>385592723
>video game discussion is now bannable
I bet you love eceleb threads too faggot.

>>385592626
nice try to defend the game with your non arguement

>>385592782
I didn't attempt to engage with the deserters as the came to me (it caught me off guard as I was fast forwarding). I wish the game developers knew what they were doing and guided new players in the right direction. I shouldn't have to have to read stuff like this to grasp basic beginner concepts (although thank you for posting such). I wanted to like this game but its just too much
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>>385593104
It's more practical to get lots of companions and investing in Trainer
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>>385592824
>Downloading PooP
>Playing as Sarleon
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>>385592983
Jeremus and firenis are the only companions you need,

they're literally bros.
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>>385593119
the game defends itself from you because you cant play it
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try to be a mercenary for a faction, OP. your faction will pay your troop fees for you while you save money for when you start your own path to becoming a force in Calradia.
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>>385593119
>as the came to me (it caught me off guard as I was fast forwarding)
that's entirely your fault
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>>385593208
the game is so fucking slow, why would you not use it?

>>385593195
wow.... hehe.... got me there bucko with dem bantz .... heh?
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>>385593294
your reaction is bad and perception of time too
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>>385593294
I use it and pay fucking attention to where I'm going
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>>385593294
Because if there is enemies around you want to be able to avoid them you dense moron
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>>385593294
heh I fast forward too, but I'm good enough to always end up on the winning end.
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>>385593369
>>385593374
>>385593408
>>385593457
>not realizing that deserters are fast as shit.

I was fast fowarding, stopped, tried to avert them but I still got caught. And I didn't have enough denars to pay my way out of it
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>>385593119
>I wish the game developers knew what they were doing and guided new players in the right direction.
They did. The starting quest teaches you everything you could possibly want to know minus a bunch of late game things like corporations. After that it's all on you. You used Morrwind as an example for a good designed game, well Morrwind does the same thing this game does in the begging with it's bare bones tutorial.
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Are there any ways of gaining plenty of renown that aren't farming sea riders or waiting for some faggot king to start a tournament? Bad party size limit is my only problem as I'm making fucktons of money.
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>>385593541
deserters are not fast you are slow head
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>>385593586
Join a kings army, beating other lords/kings, I think marrying raises renown too.
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>>385593586
I don't even know how to get renown but every now and then I check it and I seem to be getting shittons of it
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>>385593541
you can avoid them if you travel by yourself. although I don't avoid those guys since they give a lot of renown and loot, especially if you play solo(no party).

but anyway, your travel speed on the overworld gets slow the more units you have in your party. otoh investing in pathfinding(either you or a companion) and having six or nine horses in your inventory will increase your travel speed.
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>>385593636
>deserters are not fast you are slow head
>managed to catch up to party of five
play the game again to see

>>385593550
>They did.
Except they didn't, I knew how combat works and the general party system worked, yet the game is so mechanically complex and relies on artificial difficulty that it almost makes me doubt the quality of the game. I didn't want to and wanted to give the game a chance
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play minecraft and curl up with a teddy bear baby man
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>>385593825
>play the game again to see
why should i when you did not play the game more than 10 minutes?
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>>385593586
solo play increases renown fast. I forgot how it is in vanilla, but in Pendor I can get 50 renown just from fighting a group of 30 Heretics or 40 Vanskerrie.
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>>385593693
>Join a kings army
As a merc or as a vassal? I'm currently a merc and if anything it's more of a disadvantage than an advantage considering that I make more money from letting my enterprises run than having some of them seized and raiding enemy villages at the same time.

>beating other lords/kings
Beating other nobles doesn't seem to yield that much renown as I outnumber most of the faggots I stumble across save for marshals and kings (they tend to have have 300+ men parties), and I can't take those on yet. On the other hand defeating those fuckboys and letting them go gives plenty of honor.

>I think marrying raises renown too.
That's worth a shot I guess.

>>385593958
I considered soloing bandits, but I don't have any holdings, which would mean having to disband a good quality small army.
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>>385589514
>It doesn't baby me g-gguys!!!!
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>>385593825
>yet the game is so mechanically complex
Yeah, if you autism
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>>385593825
>have almost a thousand hours in the game
>somehow someone with 10 minutes knows more than me
Plain and simple, you are wrong.
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>yfw Bannerlord is dead
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>>385593825
>I knew how combat works and the general party system worked, yet the game is so mechanically complex and relies on artificial difficulty that it almost makes me doubt the quality of the game.
What the hell are you talking about? The starting quest taught you everything.
>How to fight
>How to interact
>How to exit to the world map
>How to recruit
>What are quest

Everything else is on you to figure out. And if you think this is bad, how the fuck did you even like Morrwind when the tutorial doesn't even tell you.
>Stamina affects your combat rolls
>Skills affects your combat rolls
>Skills affect your magic rolls
>Creating spells
>Enchanting equipment
>What affects the two things above
>Dungeons have set level mods
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>>385594057
You really shouldn't get attached to your troops before you get somewhere to dump them, have everyone invested in training as well as one guy dedicated to it and you won't feel as bad trimming your party to size
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What the fuck? This isn't a pleb filter. This is the pinnacle of artificial difficulty. The combat is fucking shit too, it copies Chivalry's combat mechanics, but its so fucking clunky and unresponsive that I fucking get killed by unintentional mistakes. The graphics are fucking shit and there are no mods to rectify this either.
This is some of the funniest shit I've ever read.
You think deserters and bandits are difficult?
Just wait until a king with an army 500 strong crashes into you.
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Waiting for Bannerlord
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>>385594635
literally me
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>>385593935
>why should I attempt to play the game to see if anon was right or not?
.... TaleWorlds babbies everybody

>>385594306
>has a thousand hours in the game
>is too blind to see that deserters will inevitably fuck up a new players party.
but sure.... yea you aren't a shill at all

>>385594415
Because the mechanics you listed for Morrowind are late game mechanics that one would figure out after playing for a while

M&B only explains the base mechanics and nothing else. Diplomacy? How to gain enough money to survive the initial game?
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>>385594057
Vassals, will also net you the worst town in the kingdom. Fighting in large battles like sieges, and open fields battle will still give you plenty of renown.
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>join vaegir
>become marshall
>push nords shit so hard they end only with two castles and no towns
>stop being marshall and mind my own bussiness in my castles
>after months they declare war on swadians and take two towns
>swadia declares war on rodoks despite being in war with nords
>swadia disapear
You cannot make this shit up.
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>>385594635
>>385594798
>mfw people remind me I'm waiting for bannerlord
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>>385594818
>Because the mechanics you listed for Morrowind are late game mechanics that one would figure out after playing for a while
>Thinking why can't I hit this thing in the beginning of the game a late game mechanic
>Thinking why did I fail this cast at the beginning of the game is a late game mechanic
You do know why people cry about the beginning of Morrowind is because of the first three arrows of my post.
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Japan...
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>>385594902
>save vaegirs from extinction
>king loves me
>90 relation
>gives me everything I want any city, any castle, any village. I take it and it's mine
>I wanted to start my own kingdom but homeboy would never denie me of property to start one
It was the hardest thing leaving that faction and all my holdings
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>>385595063
>Thinking why can't I hit this thing in the beginning of the game a late game mechanic
>Thinking why did I fail this cast at the beginning of the game is a late game mechanic
They're stupid to not realize that Morrowind is based on a Dice roll system and therefore bad at the game

What I'm trying to say here, if everyone could stop shilling their non arguments, is that Mount and Blade relies on artificial difficulty too much. I can't engage with any tribals without losing a significant chunk of my army (a.i is brain dead). I lose Denars so fast from maintaining a relatively expensive army. The game is artificially difficult and this fact cannot be debased
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>>385594818
>money
Do a quest for somebody where you tax a settlement. When you collect all the cash then run away with it.
Mind that the settlement getting taxed can revolt against you, and you will suffer relations with the lord who gave you the quest if you do run away. But if you are an honorfag then you only get a fourth of the tax money.

Also never buy the shitty armors and weapons from traders. Way too expensive than what you can get from a battle.

Pick a faction and get close to them, soon you will get your own banner and fortress+village. Manage the village efficiently. Only then the money will flow.

Look for companions in taverns. Jeremus is a must.

All easy shit you pleb, you're supposed to figure these out yourself.
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>>385595378
>taking significant losses to the third weakest bandit class
>claims his army is good and hard to pay
Something is amiss
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>>385589514
Look at this shiter. I wager you can't even chamber.
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>>385595591
>not being an honor fag
It's like you don't want a army of the best natured lords slobbering over your dick
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>>385595378
>They're stupid to not realize that Morrowind is based on a Dice roll system
And do you know why they don't know that? It's because the game never tells them. So you're "good designed game" argument goes out the window.

>is that Mount and Blade relies on artificial difficulty too much. I can't engage with any tribals without losing a significant chunk of my army (a.i is brain dead). I lose Denars so fast from maintaining a relatively expensive army. The game is artificially difficult and this fact cannot be debased

First, there is a skill in the character creation/level up screen the lowers casualties. All you have to do is read the skills to see what they do.
Second, you can, if you fight looters, just like in Morrowind, there are easy fights that anyone at lvl 1 can do, and hard fights that you must be a certain lvl to do. Guess what, Morrowind does this too. The Dark Brother Hood assassin, is quite the casual filter now isn't he.
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>>385595759
Honor? This is Calradia nigga it's all about mass murder and plundering
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>>385595841
Once you go full good boy you realize there is no alternative
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>>385595976
Calradia is doomed, don't even bother. Take the banditpill
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>>385596075
THIS ACTION DOES NOT HAVE MY CONSENT
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>>385589514
Here's how shit goes
Learn the fucking combat mechanics and go win some tournaments for $$$
Level int and Trainer like a madman (I level my chars to at least 21 int or something)
Get as many swadian recruits as possible.
profit
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>>385595830
>>And do you know why they don't know that? It's because the game never tells them. So you're "good designed game" argument goes out the window.
But thats the mechanical basis of the combat. If you didn't know that Morrowind is a dice roll game, its simply because you're retarded

>Second, you can, if you fight looters, just like in Morrowind, there are easy fights that anyone at lvl 1 can do, and hard fights that you must be a certain lvl to do. Guess what, Morrowind does this too. The Dark Brother Hood assassin, is quite the casual filter now isn't he.

Yes, but THE GAME IS GEOMETRICALLY DESIGNED SO THAT YOU WOULD MOST LIKELY AVOID SUCH Mount and Blade sets you on an adventure, but has no geometrical or psychologically pathing that you're basically doomed if you played the game for a hundred years or luck out.

I'm done arguing, im taking a nap nap
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>>385596525
>THE GAME IS GEOMETRICALLY DESIGNED SO THAT YOU WOULD MOST LIKELY AVOID SUCH
It's not.
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>>385592650
>tfw starting anywhere
>ride straight to nord lands and kill sea bandits solo till level X
>then start playing the game
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>>385594471
It's not that I'm attached to my troops, it's that I have a nice army with plenty of good archers and mounted troops at top level, getting them back would be a pain in the dick, especially the sword sisters.

>have everyone invested in training
Isn't training one of those skills where only the highest level in the party matters or did I misunderstand things?

>>385594884
>Vassals
In that case, do I get a flat amount of renown a single time, a set amount of renown per day/week or whatever, or a bonus to all of the renown I receive?
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>>385596525
>But thats the mechanical basis of the combat.
And nothing explains that. If you never played Morrowind, unless someone told you, you would never figure that out.because the game never tells you that it is a dice roll game. This isn't Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, Planescape Torment, or Neverwinter Nights, so why would someone's first time picking up the game have them thinking that it's a dice roll game.

>but THE GAME IS GEOMETRICALLY DESIGNED SO THAT YOU WOULD MOST LIKELY AVOID SUCH
The Dark Brother Hood Assassin attacks when ever you rest, even at lvl 1. The guy infront of the Dwemer ruins will also rekt a new players ass, and this is still in the beginning of the game son.
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>find Mountain Blade in like 2010
>have close to no knowledge of english outside various vidya juegos
>be 15 y/o at the time
>figure out how the game works pretty quickly and have loads of fun with it
>as I did later with warband with mods
>mfw op in 2017 has problems starting it while my retarded ass in 2010 didn't
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>>385596947
No, it stacks. Even if it didn't there's no reason not to invest in Trainer with a companion or something. I'm like 20 hours into a new playthrough and I can easily level up troops to higher tiers since I invested in Trainer (and not even that much)
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>>385597205
>The guy infront of the Dwemer ruins will also rekt a new players ass
Forget about that, this dungeon has probably killed 100x more people

Morrowind:Addamasartus
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What's the strongest unit in game and why is it swadian knights
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Welcome to Vaegirs coasts.
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1257 AD IS THE BEST MOD
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>>385590848
why did you fight then in the first place? you're faster than they are in the overmap.
dumbass bit off more than he could chew.
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>>385597483
Just try to use your swadian knights in a siege against an army of 500 huscarls
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>>385595591
>Also never buy the shitty armors and weapons from traders. Way too expensive than what you can get from a battle.
That's retarded advice as most of the gear you get from combat is genuinely shit, not even worth picking up for selling, while at the merchants you can find some really nice stuff such as:
high tier armors with negative attributes (that cost way less than usual and are almost as good as the armors without said negative attributes)
good weapons such as the jousting lance or hammers, or two handed swords with long reach
sometimes lame horses, which if kept in your inventory while not being used will heal up

>Manage the village efficiently. Only then the money will flow.
Three tourney wins and you can buy a dyeworks in Rivacheg which makes 1.5k dosh per week, which is a ridiculous amount of money.
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>>385597483
Swadians are only good in open field, and they're very expensive.
Mamelukes are better, cheaper, and more useful on sieges.
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>>385597303
>No, it stacks
Interesting, I already have an INT dump character but I'll consider investing a point in every single NPC I have in my party.

Are there any other skills that stack like that?
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>playing the ACOK mod
>the main war finished within 30 in game days
>day 1130
>see a party of 3000 deserters on the map
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>>385597787
Actually I arm all my castles exclusively with swadian knights. They are just like an impenetrable wall of steel. Most enemy's can't even get a foot of the ladder or tower
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>>385597862
Fuck off with those shitskins.
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>>385597945
>not playing AWOIAF and joining the Night's Watch to murder hundreds of wildling fucking shits
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>>385590509
Because he's an unworthy pleb
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>>385590208
Original Chivalry came out first.
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>>385598070
i tried it for like 10 minutes, looks like fucking shit. I'm done with ACOK though because after the scripted wars there's literally nothing to do.
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>>385598267
I liked AWOIAF better to be honest, it also works well on my machine compared to ACOK which fps drops me like fuck

Though visiting some lore places in ACOK was comfy as fuck
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Does the Harlous AI really feast more than usual? I've never played Swadia because shit spot, but it kinda feels like everybody likes to feast
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>>385598452
They lose battles and a city/castle so the morale goes down
Harlaus calls for a feast to raise morale
Lose more castles and cities because you're feasting and not defending
Make more feasts to raise morale

repeat until swadia is eliminated
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>>385598452
He feasts because he's depressed my man
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>>385598503
Hmm
really makes you think
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Why do people sometimes love me without a reason?
>meeting guy for the first time, stating my name
>hover over his person
>relations 100
i'm just running around, beating people and then letting them go unless they're kings

also
>high relations with half of my kingdom
>never choosen as marshall
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>>385598891
Beating other lords and letting them go gives you a relations boost of almost 10 points.
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>>385598891
Sometimes the king calls for a vote between the two characters who have the highest renown. Otherwise the king chooses, which is based on his own relationship + renown.
Better to just make your own kingdom and appoint yourself marshal desu, AI marshalls suck ass
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>>385598891
>tfw always keeping all the lords I can hostage so they don't roam the map and try to fuck me over while I attempt sieges

I hope butterlord releases in my lifetime because I'm tired of seeing dozens of soldiers trying to walk up a narrow ladder
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>>385599092
i would love to try rebelling with my numerous important cities, but ragnar never gives me a chance to do so.

>>385599040
yeah, but that's relations with the guy you let go. If i have relations 100 with the guy i've never talked to before, i would have to let him go ten times and every time he would have to be support army to another one who's attacking me, that doesn't sound probable
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>>385599131
I cry every time my war party gets wiped by archers.
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>>385599289
get a good shield, order to follow, go first so majority of ai attention is turned towards you, then order to attack when you're on the top of the ladder. it also works well on the open field, you get everyone's attention when you're first and then your calvary just murders the archers after you ordered them to follow you straight into archer place.

>tfw jumping over enemies in castles that allow it to be behind them, then just wiping out everyone with one hit axe
best feel
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>>385599289
I wish sieges weren't so poorly done in m&b. Trying to capture anything when there's only one ladder and you see 50 soldiers cluttered on it slowly going up and then dying to arrows/soldiers on the walls is just painful. At least let me use more than one ladder goddamnit
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>>385597616
Real niggas know
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>>385599460
that just dont work in rhodok castles those sharpshooters are way too good at defense
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>>385589675
Vaegir pleb here
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>>385593119
Ah I see where the problem is. Fast forwarding is incredibely useful but you have to really pay attention to the groups around you. I recommend fast forwarding for a sec or two to check around you all the time if you don't feel comfortable with stronger enemies. The game's not that gard until later stages, but it's hard to graso at first and just not for everyone. I'd give it a second chance if I were you, lower the difficulty to minimum and use the guide posted here
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So who of the ladies is the hottest and who's into the nastiest shit?
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>>385600040

Did you know that when you use the scroll wheel of your mouse, you're doing the same thing you would be doing to a pussy if you had a real girlfriend?
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Are the Rhodoks the greatest troops all around?
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>>385600186
>having a mouse with a scroll wheel
Fucking richfags
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>>385600040
>install some mod
>for unknown reasons all females are not wearing clothes
>they look horrible
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>>385600212
They're probably the best on siege defence, if you pair them up with nord husclars you can pretty much take any castle you want.
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>>385589514
>mountain bandits
getting rectd by mount bandits how shit are you at video games
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>>385589514
>be newbie with sub-par equipment
>team comprised of loser peasants
>get fucked hard

Sorry, anon, sounds like you need to go back to your casual multiplayer game.

>it copies Chivalry's combat mechanics
>Mountain Blade came out years before Chiv
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Grind your troops till they're the best of the best. The Rhodok mountains are a good place for mountain bandit grinding.
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>>385589514
Learn to backpedal.
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Guys

How is Swadia pronounced?

Soo-adia or Shvadia?
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>>385603845
Swadia.
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>>385589514
Well this thread accomplished one thing.

I realized I'm not the most shit Mount and Blade player in the world.
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>>385589675
Because it's called Mount & Blade, which pefectly describes a Swadian army that fucks your shit up.
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>>385589675
>best faction
My own faction
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