Is there consensus on whether this game is good or not? Or at

>>385588278
It's great, ps1 version is superior

>>385588278
The PS1 version controls better, and the audio quality is better as well. If you play it, play the PS1 version. It's definitely worth playing though one thing to keep in mind, it wasn't til Legends 2, till they analog control support since Legends 1 was made before the Dual Shock was out. The gameplay is alright, and the cast are very lovable. If you go in with an open mind towards a different take on Mega Man, you should hopefully like it.

>>385588278
The N64 port has better graphics and controls but the PS version has better sound. You should play the PS version so you have more consistency when playing the PS exclusive sequels.

I'm having a good time with the PSN version.

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>>385588278
Controls are rough being that it's one of those first forays into 3D games, and that's really the only argument against it. Even then a determined person will get over it. Atmosphere is great, it has fun characters and a bizarre plot that only anime would try. And it's charming as fuck because of all that.

There's advantages and disadvantages for the N64 port, but if you play either one you won't miss out on anything too bad. The shitty thing is N64-only owners missed out on 2 and Misadventures of Tron Bonne.

>>385588278
Just finished it today. It has a lot of charm but the gameplay aged liked milk. The sequel is better in that regard. Also play the Tron Bonne spinoff.

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dont play the ps1 version whataver you do

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>>385590579
>bilinear filtering

>>385590504
2 is great, but it also has downfalls. 1 has some nice features like the interconnecting ruins. And how the one island is so fleshed out, probably because it's the only location in that game, but even so.

PS1 version has better sound.
N64 has cleaner graphics and way way way better load times.

Just emulate the PS1 version

>>385590808

I was super amazed as a kid when I realized all of the regular ruins were interconnected. Shit was cash

2 still has a special place in my heart though for the music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSI7M3sUKdc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSSm-hREeqA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOpn6_JEYVM

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>>385591249
I get chills when I hear Yosyonke village theme.

>>385588278
One of the best megaman games, this one and the sequel are both great.

>>385588278
English translation is fucking retarded.

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What do you think I should add?

>>385591701

Cheeky is always the best option

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>>385590084
>>385590579
>>385590951
N64 version has a lower draw distance and much blurrier textures, along with worse sound.

>>385590504
The only iffy thing about Mega Man Legends are the controls. You use the Dpad to walk and the L and R button to turn Mega Man. Once you get used to them the game plays completely fine, circile strafing and jumping out of the way of enemies never feels all too hard once you get used to them.

The dungeons are bare bones but they're almost all interconnected, which is real awesome. The diversity of side arms mixed with the customizable buster are also a big strength of the game, it makes the gameplay almost feel like a prototype of Ratchet and Clank, with 2 having some weapons that are almost like R&C weapons (the floating turrets that shoot enemies come to mind). There's also some nice sidequests that pop up and give you access to items to make different weapons with, which gives the large towns some nice use.

2 did improve the controls by giving you an actually viable lock on, meaning the core gameplay improved decently.

The series is super underrated, it's silly how people praise Resident Evil despite it having tank controls while shitting on MML for doing almost the same thing. Granted RE is a better series.

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>>385588278
Reminder that this game was released the year before Metal Gear Solid and Ocarina of Time and features good voice acting, fully animated faces and cutscenes,and lock-on targeting.

>>385590579
>>385592658
The sharp, defined, square textures are the charm of Legends. Why did they fuck it up and blur that shit for N64?

>>385592859
N64 has inbuilt texture-filtering on every game. It was a selling point.

>But it looks like shit!

Yep.

>>385592658
I always thought RE was extremely overrated and aged worse than any other PS1 game, and that's including shovelware like Rascal. Yeah it might have scared that shit out of you when you were 10, but once you've finished puberty the only scary things are the tank controls, camera angles, backtracking and voice acting. The first Silent Hill game easily blows the entire PS1 trilogy out of the water, because for all that game's flaws at least it maintains a tense atmosphere and a somewhat interesting story without resorting to semi-ironic b-movie campiness.

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>>385590479
One thing to commend MML for is they knew how to work with graphical limitations, by drawing really good facial textures among other things.

Everything was crisp.

While not godlike, the series had plenty of mystery and suspense, and even got a little biblical at times. Deserved a third release.

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>>385593083
>Rascal
>shovelware
You haven't seen shovelware.

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its me

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>>385592658
>that draw distance on the N64 version

How do people defend that shit?

>>385593258
Because lower load times, which is the only thing you can give it credit for.

The sound is terrible by comparison.

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>>385593135
The 2D animated faces on 3D models was a swell trick. They mimic perspective by just drawing their faces from an angle, and even sometimes painted parts of their faces the color of the background, so it could look like their mouth was open. That was really fucking tricksy.

>>385593258
No graphical tearing, no jaggies, dramatically shorter load times. Sure the fog looks weird, but it's not a deal-breaker to me.

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>>385593391
Damn, you're right. Legends is almost too good.

>>385593000
>But it looks like shit!

They both look bad, it's largely just personal preference which type of bad you like. Typically whatever you grew up with is what you'd prefer.

>>385592851
Legends actually has some godlike voice acting and facial animations in it. People got real upset when I said OoT shouldn't be praised for inventing lock on systems when Legends came out first, even if Legends system was much worse.

>>385593083
There's two types of people out there, those that can handle janky old 3D games and those that cannot.

Honestly though most people are faggots. So many people complain about the controls of N64 007 yet they will still play CoD or Halo on console. It's all about perspective and what you're used to. Also yeah, Silent Hill was always seen as scarier when me and my friends were kids.

>>385593538
shit draw distance, blurry textures, shit sound quality.

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>>385590479
>tfw Lake Jyun's trap was exceedingly obvious, but the surprise was less that was a reaverbot and more how fucking fast it was

WOAHSHITDIVINGATME

>>385593258
No jaggies out the ass. Legends was one of the most aliased games ever released on the PS1.
The fix is crude when you look at the original image, but to someone that had never seen the original, it's reasonable.
Honestly the N64 hardware would have been fucking amazing if they used CDs. Tamauchi fucked Nintendo over by wanting to not deal with piracy.

>>385593538
>no jaggies
Yeah, it gets a lovely Vaseline filter instead.

>>385593604
>They both look bad
No.

>>385593727
>No jaggies out the ass. Legends was one of the most aliased games ever released on the PS1.
No it isn't. Quit exaggerating.

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What now?

tfw no MML2 on PC

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>>385593391
I wish I had the exact capture when Tiesel turns to the side and they paint part of his face to look like the wall.

>>385593737
If you don't think aliasing out the ass looks bad, you're blind.
The PS1 looks bad.
But I will say the N64 version looks worse in my opinion due to the shit draw distance.

If the draw distance were the same, I think I'd honest to go prefer the N64 version. blurrier textures sure, but jaggies in the PS1 version are really really really bad, to the point of being distracting.

Hopefully in 10 years someone makes a fan remake of the game based on the PS1 version but with AA.

>>385592851
And the lock-on feature was such a joke it might as well not have been implemented in the first place.

>>385592851
The lock on was shit though.
Yea, it was one of the first, but Z targeting was probably a thing in the development of OoT before it came out, and was a vastly better system than what MML had.
Pretty much all modern lock on systems are built upon Z targeting.

>>385593258
It's pretty much just load times that they saved on.

That said, there are NO load times in the N64 version, while in the PS version it can hang for up to 10 seconds every trip between the surface and the underground

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>>385593894
In my opinion, the blurring out the ass of the N64 version, coupled with its incorrect aspect ratio, is much more distracting.

But whatever. Different strokes for different folks.

>Hopefully in 10 years someone makes a fan remake of the game based on the PS1 version but with AA.
Just emulate it.

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WHo was here during the mml3 waifu wars of 2010?

I really love the atmosphere of the Legends games. What other games have town areas that feel like this? I just loved rolling around town on my motor skates and talking to people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqPfyItIV_I

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>>385594252
>2010

>>385594198
Even emulated it looks shit, because the forced AA is unreasonable (though admittedly better than what the N64 does)

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>>385594252
>that feel when MML3 will never happen ALL BECAUSE Capcom was fucking retarded and thought the 3DS was the flop of the century before the Nintendo price drop, then was too arrogant to restart / finish the project when it was a wild success
I pray every day for MML 3 Switch, since it's successful from day 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV8_kHwPrHU

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>>385594252
I'm a veteran of waifu wars past. Injun forever and ever.

>>385590951
How do I emulate the PS1 version? The sound is fucked and causes the game to lag to the point of being a slideshow.

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>>385594319
Almost the same amount of time has passed between now and MML3 getting cancelled than between MML2 and the announcement of MML3

>>385593894
Personally I'd take jaggies over blurred as fuck textures. The blurred textures remind me of how people use filters for Genesis and SNES games to make them "look better".

>>385594004
True, but it was still there, and yeah the OoT system became the standard for all 3D hack n slash games.

>>385594260
>tfw knew what the song was going to be before clicking the link

Legends does have some godtier atmosphere. It's a shame some people still try to argue the game is bad when it does so much right. Its only sin is a slightly dated control scheme.

Also that awkward pacing were it throws like 3 bosses at you at the start of the game when you only have the mine arm, what the fuck.

>>385593214
You used to be scary until I mastered tank controls and grinding for refractors, bitch.

>>385594479
The project died because they thought they could farm out game design to the fans and when they realized fan's couldn't actually make the game for them they canceled it. 3DS had very little to do with it.

>>385594260
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff0Dyc_7Esw
I guess most PS1-2 era games, there's just a sense of innocence or sass that some modern games lack.

>>385594252
God we were so much more hopeful then. I think that whole fiasco is what actually made me start being jaded about gaming in general; not that there wasn't shit beforehand, but proverbial straw-and-camel-back.

I'd settle for getting the demo alone now, just to get something.

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>>385594545
Not quite. Give it 3 more years.

>>385594479
I always thought it was because Inafune left or some shit.

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>>385594479
>>385594593
It died because of Japanese businessmen needing to spite Inafune.

>>385594545
Legends 2 came out in 2000 though.

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They both 10/10

I played them before 4chan existed and thus was blown away.

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>>385593604
>>385592658
>>385590479
>>385588910
>>385588278
Anybody else here skipped the auto-lockon and just aimed by hand?

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>>385594736
WE

>>385594736
Good for you!

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I just finished MML in an emulator last week. Playing Misadventures of Tron Bonne now. I was laughing like a madman when I unlocked the torture room. These games are so cute and fun. I wish I played them when I was a kid.

>>385594785
WAS DIGGERZ

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>>385594593
>Have fans do your designs for you
>barely advertise it
>can it because the ones actually dedicated to it aren't working fast enough
>Well I guess we can release this paid demo to gauge interest in the actual game
>actually on second thought, nah, fuck you

>>385594783
Rarely, some enemies are easier to hit by hand but most all you need it lock-on.

>>385594479
>it'd be easy as fuck for an indie dev to make a Legends like game, but with mouse aiming and overall much tighter combat
>this will never happen

Shit sucks. The cool thing about MML is the fact that it actually does movement based shooting surprisingly well on a controller. It also had a fuckton of variet and viability when it came to weapons. SO MUCH good shit about the game gets ignored because the controls are a bit dated.

>>385594783
You can very easily beat the game without it. It's pretty much useless for most enemies, due to the fact that you can't move while using it.

>>385594846
This I don't get it.
Before they cancelled it I wasn't even aware they wanted fans to make designs. There wasn't even a thread on /v/ about making designs which would have existed if they were more outright about it (this is before /vg/ existed obviously)

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>>385594895
>>385594941

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>>385588278
N64 port is far superior and the textures don't look distorted like the PSX version due to the lack of correct perspective, not to mention that the pixels shake like an earthquake in the playstation version even when you standing still.

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>>385594895
Not true. Aiming by hand is actually really easy. I just finished my second playthrough with no lockon whatsoever.

>>385594941
What this anon said. Moving around and shooting using the L/R sticks to basically aim plays very well, and the ability to jump-strafe out of harm's way was a really nice touch, though I rarely used it.

>>385594941
>it'd be easy
I don't think so, there is actually a lot of work involved in making even the most basic 3D games. This is why the indie scene is still oversaturated with 2D and 2.5D games.

Also if you were aiming to match MML artstyle you'd need a ton of talented artists.

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Favorite weapon arm, what was it?

Mine was vacuum because I'm a greedy sonuvabitch

>>385595004
Vaseline blurring the shit out of the beautiful textures and final output isn't great either. PS1 earthquake is horrible when you emulate it at a high resolution. Playing it natively on a CRT is much less pronounced.

>>385595004
PC version is actually the best if you can get it to run on a modern system which can be a pain. There are even widescreen and mouse aim hacks. Rockman Dash 2 for PC has a translation patch as well as the mouse aim hack, never found widescreen hack for it though.

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>>385590579
Yeah play the PC version.

>>385595004
PS1 had fucked Z-buffering, is what you're saying.

Or rather, literally had no z-buffering and calculated vertices with fixed-point math.

So that's not great. Still, I prefer it over N64's texture filtering. At that was meant to be a feature. That's a fair bit fucked.

>>385595236
Machine Buster. I found it the most satisfying and useful to chew through bosses or tough enemies. As expected, you can rip the Gesellschaft in half with it.

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>one of these threads again
I fucking hate you faggots, I almost forgot about the game, fuck you

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>>385595370
>which can be a pain
I'm playing the PC version right now on Windows 10 with an Xbox 360 controller. Everything works fine with exception of the cutscenes, where the audio is not properly synced with the video.

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>>385595410
nothing a little PGXP can fix.

>>385595587
>exception of the cutscenes, where the audio is not properly synced with the video.
So not fine. You're going to have to download this https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=7352 and fuck with advanced settings to get it to work properly. There was a guide posted on /vr/ a few years back if you want to look it up. Unless you're cool with the audio not looping properly an the sync issues.

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>>385595371

I'm finding a few download links for this, but just wanna know if it's a pain in the ass to get it compatible with modern Windows?

Last time I tried to run the classic Rayman, and it didn't stop flipping the screen.

I'll just emulate on PS1 if that's the case.

This a safe download?
https://nicoblog.org/pc-games/mega-man-legends-usa/

>>385595631
Noice.

Honestly though I'm so used to the fucked vertices that it's kind of endearing, I just can't bring myself to defend it.

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>>385595903
>This a safe download?

I haven't downloaded any PC games from there, but I did get a lot of ENG text JP audio versions of DS roms from there, working perfectly.

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>>385588278

this is my favorite game of all time. Still mad and forever mad about 3

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>>385595934
i can't go back to the jitter honest

>>385595903
Looks shady as fuck, but hey, what's the worst that could happen?

The real reason the texture look worse in the N64 version isn't bilinear filitering but that the texture assets themselves are one quarter of the size from the PS1.

It was a typical hack Capcom port.

>>385595859
>Unless you're cool with the audio not looping properly
It's a little bit distracting. I'm gonna take a look at this compatibility toolkit and see if I can work something out. Thanks, senpai.

>>385596220
Fucking Shenmue over here.

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>>385596341

>>385596460
I had a crush on tron when I was a kid.

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>the closest chance we ever have for megaman legends 3 or at least a legends-like game is red ash, which was farmed out to a chinese literally-who studio who've never made a 3D game before and we have heard jack shit about since the kickstarter and will probably never come out and is even less likely to be good if it does

>>385588278
If you need to ask this, you are too young for 4chan. You need to go.

>>385596005
I loved how the weapons in 2 looked, I also like how 2 actually had a sword arm that game Mega Man a few swings instead of just acting like a mediocre gun.

>>385595527
>forgetting about Legends

You're truly a monster.

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>>385596514
I like roll too

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>>385596514
I was more of a Roll guy.

But that was years before I discovered Yuna

>>385588278
the N64 version has an easy mode which is awesome because it lets you start off with all the gadgets you would normally get doing the dungeons. This means you can get around everywhere really fast with the skates. So the N64 version is worth a play through even if the PS1 is overall better.

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>>385596598
>They knock it out of the fucking park somehow and it completely blows even the most ludicrous expectations out of the water

>>385596641
I'm still finding games from the Commodore 64 that I missed, man, you can't have played every game of note.

>What's your name?
>Megaman
>Hippopotamus

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>>385596746
I can't help but be completely pessimistic when it comes to these things given the track record, but I'd love to be proven wrong. Please let my pessimism be proven wrong, just this once.

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>>385596851

Ha I had forgotten about that. Good times.

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>>385596514
I just thought she was cute. Still do.

>>385596879
I'm still not convinced it's even coming out and after MN9 farming it out to someone else is probably good news.

>>385596598
What the fuck was the deal with that shit anyways?

>>385594527
>white girl in native american outfit
as if they could get away with that nowadays

>>385597126

Goddamn I can't get enough of this aesthetic.
Why is it so appealing?

>>385597403

because its fun and colorful and is counter to the edgy dark games of recent years.

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>>385597326
>white
>actual humanity is already over
Uh huh.

And really anon, please don't empower the internet delicate snowflakes by drawing attention to them. No one who matters actually gives a shit.

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>>385597403
It's like 3D pixel art

>>385593083
RE1 is still a great game even if it isn't scary. Just the level design and the tension makes with how item management and saving works makes it a masterpiece.

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>>385597587
yo

>>385593727
>Tamauchi fucked Nintendo over by wanting to not deal with piracy.

He also said in an interview that it would increase the price of the N64 by $100 at least. I still think going with CDs was the better option, or maybe some sort of hybrid system. The Saturn had that although it never used the carts for anything besides game shark, and the N64 did get the DD but it was introduced way too late and only in Japan. If it had been done much earlier and world wide with more support from Nintendo I think it would have caught on.

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>>385597027
>Needs some red
or
>Needs some talent

>>385597903

I accidentally clicked on the cheeky option and I felt so bad, because I myself am a painter by hobby.

>>385598130
Fuck off

>>385598217
rude

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>>385597741
>>385597587
It's a shame we don't see low poly more often in games.

>>385598337
We do, just usually in crappy mobile games.

>>385598337
>>385598367
it feels like the time you save modelling, you could of added variation. not having 3 different animations, but making it dynamic and give each movement a possibility of being 5 different. example: salute
>speed of salute
>smoothness of salute
>the first half being faster then the second half of salute by 5%, so on, so fourth
itll be the same effect, but if you have 10,000 enemies do the same shit at the SAME time, its ALL going to look a bit different.

same thing with gunshots or impact sounds. just...modulate it or whatever? make it possible that EACH time it plays its slightly higher or lower tone, slower or faster by 5%. just, make it SLIGHTLY different each time, how hard could it be?

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if bubsy of all vidya characters could get a new game why haven't you fart thieves meme magic'd MML3 back to into production instead of being all depressed about it all the time

>>385598841
Bubsy is a budget IP anyone could buy, because no one fucking wants it. Capcom isn't about to sell off Megaman, even if they aren't going to use it themselves.

>>385597195
Man, that was a huge part of the problem in the first place. The KS touted bringing in all this experienced talent, Comcept had IntiCreates make a mockup action sequence as an example of what to shoot for, and then the project was promptly handed off to a small-time developer that had never made anything except clicker-tier mobile games.

>>385596746
I'd be more than overjoyed to see my pessimism kicked in the teeth.

>>385597223
Inafune, in the middle of the MN9 debacle, starts another kickstarter, this time for not Megaman Legends, vaguely tied into MN9 as a franchise by having the MC and main girl be called Beck and Call. They also have a simultaneous kickstarter for an OVA prequel to it, which should be coming out in the next few months.

It fails, only reaches like half of its goal, and then Inafune goes "we found an investor who'll give us 500 thousand dollars lol" and the kickstarter technically succeeds, which makes Inafune even less trustworthy because the game was going to be made either way and he was just scamming people out of their money to pad the budget. Granted some Kickstarters do that, but they're honest about it up-front.

Since then we've heard pretty much fuck-all about the game itself, which might be a smart thing to do after MN9. If it doesn't come out people barely remember it because it faded into obscurity, and if it has a troubled development we aren't seeing it.

>>385599159
I don't see how or why anyone would trust Inafune after the MN9 event, that and him starting a new kickstarter before his other game finishes was the fishiest shit out there.

Damn shame too, considering how unlikely it is that we'll get another game like MML.

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>>385592658
>>385593258

The comprison that anon posted is misleading.
It appears as if N64 has a lot less stuff on screen, but that's because of how the city gets destroyed after the boss battle with the servbots and Tron,
While it's true N64 version has worse draw distance on towns (but most other times, PS1 has worse), this one is specifically made on purpose to make the N64 look much worse than it actually is. Draw distance in general isn't good on PS1 version either.

PC version > N64 version > PS1 version

There's nothing awfully wrong with any of these versions but I consider N64's version to be better due to having a lot of camera glitches fixed as well as actually looking better.
Those who think the incorrect perspective and warping textures on PS1 look better than the AA on N64 are deluding themselves.

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>Yfw you first play MML2 and there's a buttnaked brown loli in the snow
It's rated 'E' too.

>>385599980
>It appears as if N64 has a lot less stuff on screen, but that's because of how the city gets destroyed after the boss battle with the servbots and Tron,

The city wall cannot be destroyed during that fight, that missing makes the city look much worse than the PS1 version. N64 still has a gross filter on all of its textures too.

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>>385600353
MML wasn't afraid to get a young boy's hormones flowing. And I love it for doing that.

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>>385600383
PS1 version has gross incorrect perspective and shaking textures, plus more camera glitches.
And no, the comparison is misleading, the boss fight do get buildings and houses destroyed, which you can later pay to repair.
I know you're a console warrior, but PC version is the best one anyway (which is an upscaled port of the N64 version).
Capcom could have done a much better work on N64 and PC though, but the little they did, they improved on the original.
Only thing PS version has over the N64 one is the CD audio on voice clips, and a slightly better draw distance in some areas, but not in others, so that's a moot point.

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>>385600494
The N64 version has the uncensored catgirl comic (it was changed to a superhero in the PS1 version in the west)

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>yfw they cancelled Megaman legends 3

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>>385600353
>we won't ever see Sera and Yuna helping team Megaman
>we won't get to see his 2-way harem double

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>>385600610
Woah, is that the catgirl cutout bikini that recently became a meme clothing on pixiv?

>>385600537
>PS1 version has gross incorrect perspective and shaking textures

I'd take shaking textures over filtered textures, but that's largely personal preference.

>And no, the comparison is misleading, the boss fight do get buildings and houses destroyed, which you can later pay to repair.

The library is probably destroyed, but you can still clearly still see the back wall isn't there at all (which isn't destroyable) and the building in the left is are clearly there but aren't loading because they're just too far away.

>I know you're a console warrior, but PC version is the best one anyway

Doesn't surprise me, and like I said before both look bad, it's pretty much down to personal preference.

>Only thing PS version has over the N64 one is the CD audio on voice clips

Does the N64 version have voice acting? Because if not then it's not even a competition as to which one is better. Also is the music the same between the two different versions?