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>>385583742
World 1 was a better game

>>385583864
world1=world2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>world3

Name a better song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDO-4_bOtN0

>>385583742
This game's so stupid hard I replayed it like a year ago
The volcano stages and the boardwalk suck

>>385583864
FPBP

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>>385583864
Yes
>>385584193
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Fzh-bX45VY

>>385584197
This was like the third video game I ever played, if I could beat it as a kid pretty sure it wasn't that hard. The only bullshit levels were the Haunted Boardwalk ones.

>>385584419
I think it's because the physics make you slip off of platforms really easily that I had a hard time

>>385583742
Holy shit I remember this game. The tree top and Ice levels were my favorite. And the village was chill as fuck.

>>385584419
Everything is nice until Ice River Run, and it's worse on PS2.

>>385584530
It's been a while but I know exactly what you're talking about because I remember that frustrating me too, the camera was also problematic from what I remember.

>>385584272
Man World 1 and CTR were my go to games for most of my childhood. Good times.

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Was it good?

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>>385585661
It's decent.
Pac being a smug asshole and the level's atmosphere are great. Gameplay wise is ok.

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God-tier final boss theme/spoopy song comin' through:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqdDwjjnFao

>>385583864
If you're only comparing the first areas. Everything after area 1 is better in World 2.

>>385586263
World 1 is consistent until Spin Dizzy, then you get to Ghostly Garden it gets good again.

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>>385586034
Does it reach the same comfy levels as World 2?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOvXq3tJcV4

>>385583864
Close but nah

>>385583742
Pinky had the deepest character arc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx2FaW2_4L4

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The way the ghosts were rendered looked kind of bad, and didn't they mix up Inky with Clyde?

>>385583742
Kino in musical form

>>385585661
It has a really nice atmosphere thanks a lot to the melancholic music
gameplay is mediocre

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>>385587202
blinky and clyde's colors were swapped (clyde was the red one and blinky was the orange one)

>>385583742
I think we can all agree that World 2 one of the if not the comfiest game of all time. I can't think of any game that are as peaceful as world 2. Best themes are PAC-village, Blade mountain, and Spooky's theme.

>>385588123
Not bad designs if it weren't' for those teeth, but they're not the Pac-Man ghosts.

Are Pac Man World 1 and 2 the best 3D platformers ever made? Or at the very least the most underrated?

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>>385585661
Underwhelming, but interesting.

>>385587202
>>385588123
I don't know why they did that. You could have just had Clyde be the leader and kept him orange. I fucking loved World 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqdDwjjnFao

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b>rest

>>385589818
D has an uncanny charm.

>>385589818
B's Pac-Man with D's ghosts would be the perfect mix

>>385589818
Copy paste ghosts will always look better. These are interesting though.

>>385590132
I can hear his laugh

>>385589818
I want to fuck Pinky(male)

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>>385590174
and cry

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>>385590217

>>385590336
Post a pic from the factory levels.

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>>385589146
>>385588123

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>that violin at 1:19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz9014XZ2xs

>>385590217
Pinky should have been male. Let all the Ms. Pac-Man ghosts be their wives.

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>>385590749
I haven't gotten far.

triggers my ptsd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyfpzftJsYs&

>>385591325
this and the Biolizard were some of the hardest yet most enjoyable fights on the gamecube

>>385591382
>GameCube
My nigga, objectively the best controller for platformers.

>>385589818
B>D>C>A

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>>385591325
>taunts you and says he's better then spooky
>fucker is right
Fuck that battle.

>>385591538
This is the kind of thing I want fanart of

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Best 6th gen Kart-Racing game passing by

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>>385591918
*blocks your path*

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>>385591325
>he didn't stock up on lives beforehand

>>385590132
God this game scared the fuck out of me when I was a kid.

>>385592079
lol

>>385592079
>inferior drifting mechanic
wew

>>385592142
That level is so fucking good

>>385592142
I love how happy pacman is when he bounces

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPrG0-UkIZM
>tfw played pmw3 on a shitty computer with a horrible framerate that fucked with timers making it impossible to reach the end of the bomb room's piston path without a drastic leap of faith at the start and abusing physics from butt bouncing on a still-raising piston
>tfw it took weeks to beat as a kid
>tfw it was my favorite level because of the challenge

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Reminder that Pac-Man is the greatest video game character ever

>>385593574
I can't argue this

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>>385593574
That's not Rebecca Chambers.

Name all the good pac man games now

>>385593574
Gex exists

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>>385583742
>had a gamecube but couldn't afford a memory card
>always had to play this game in one sitting
>mfw i got to a point where i could beat the game in 5 hours
Spooky was a pushover desu

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>>385593663
this is the BEST pacman game

>>385593574
aw shit it's pac man

>>385593784
Step it up anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHmJb_uMG3c

>>385593784
I could never get good at the ice slide level, so I never beat the game. I think something was screwy with my gamecube because I don't remember being able to play it in one sitting either.

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>>385593663
There's no Bad PAC-MAN games...
Well, except for Pacman Party

>>385593963
Fuck.
Well, to my credit I was 9 and I always went for the bonus mazes in each level.

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>>385594071
>Pac-Man World 3
>Good

>>385592142
I had no idea about that secret

>>385592142
i would do this all the time when i was little
i thought i cheated the game or something

>>385594273
It's not a bad game tho.

Super Mario 64 Vs Pac Man World 2, who wins?

>>385594521
It's not a good one either though.

>>385593963
haha no way, never thought I'd see pac man world 2 speedrunning on /v/

I actually have the current WR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9roCuDMGSBM

actually happy

>>385594642
It's ok.

>>385594814
Is there any particular reason why the GameCube version is used for speedrunning? It's the only version I've played but is there something special about it?

>>385595019
Fastest load times (other than xbox but we dont play on xbox because it plays a 3 second cutscene after every level)

Any other Qs?

>>385595019
Easier to get working.
PS2 has some glitches like ice river run's ice floor and PC has starforce protection.

>>385584419
If the haunted boardwalk is the dark foresty level then i have fond memories of that. Game wasn't hard, shit was fun, i remember trying to figure out if you could get the ability to throw pellets like in Pacman one and was obsessed with the idea that if you did the first boss in the right way you'd get it for some reason so i autistically beat that boss around a hundred times.

>>385595227
PS2 ice physics are identical to gamecube ice physics.

They do have different lava physics though, and different boss physics for inky, pinky and clyde.

>>385595227
>PC has starforce protection.
explain

>>385595148
Favorite level from World 2?
Favorite song from World 2?
Favorite 3D platformer?
Why did you decide to speed run this particular game?
Do you speed run other games?
Do you still run it?

>>385595314
Starforce is a pain in the ass anti-piracy protection

>>385595286
are you sure? iirc only the ps2 version has the ice slipping animation repeating itself when you try to jump again on the ice.

>>385595325
Fav level: Blade mountain (The skating level)
Gives me a really weird feeling, a mix of calming and excitement.

Fav song:
Probably pinkys theme, but spooky phase 3 is really good as well.

Fav 3d platformer:
Pac-Man World 2 (yeah yeah)
2nd place would probably be Sly cooper

Why do I run it:
Childhood favorite game, played it a lot so I became good at it. Very nostalgic to play now.

Other games:
Yeah, I run other games. Not nearly as good at them though. http://www.speedrun.com/user/ruse_sr

Still run it: Yeah. Made a new route for ghost bayou 100% 3 days ago.

>>385595402
Ohhh, that could be a 1.0 problem. This game actually went through 3 revisions, they changed some of the level layouts and the amount of health that bosses have, amount of time powerups last. I don't think all of the changes are fully documented anywhere, but TCRF has some listed.

The best thing about 3 was that it let you play the original cabinet games.

>>385595540
Neat, do you stream.
Another question that I just thought of too: How do you think World 2 compares to Super Mario Sunshine? I only had a GameCube growing up so these two games were my introduction to 3D platformers and I played the hell out of them, I eventually went back and played all the ones on PS2 though. Really liked the first Jak and Daxter.

>>385595623
3 only had the original
2 had a bunch more

>>385595656
Oh yeah i forgot, fuck 3 then

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Hot dog eating contest: pac-man or kirby?

>>385595636
yeah, stream fairly often. I'm going to visit some relatives so I probably wont stream for a couple weeks but I'm at twitch /ruse_sr

I've never actually played SMS, but one of the top speedrunners of SMS used to be a top runner of PMW2, his name is averagetrey and he could probably give you a good answer if you tweeted it at him. ( @averagetrey )

From what I remember him talking about it (all of this is from a speedrunning perspective) he felt that PMW2 was more punishing, SMS has a higher skill ceiling. He likes SMS more.

>>385595774
They might both have endless stomachs but Kirby is a vacuum, so even if they go on forever at any point in time kirby will have eaten more than Pacman

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>>385595840
Thanks for the info, never thought I'd run into the WR holder in a thread for a game I thought everyone forgot existed on /v/ that was also one of my favorites as a kid.
Reminds me why I still come here.

>>385593574
I really, really, really like this image

>>385596173
Yeah, it surprised me as much as it surprised you to see this pop up here. Never thought that people would still care about a 15 year old game like I do. Cheers mate

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Aw shit...
HERE HERE COMES PAC-MAN

>>385595840
Do you know of any other secrets in the game along the lines of >>385592142 ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVo4_lKRpeo
I literally stopped playing the main game to play this in the arcade.

>>385596329
YO YO YO YO YO WHAT IT I always thought that video was just a random youtube oddity but it turns out it's some kind of long running joke for an alt-rock band

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFxtE-6m9i4

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>>385596556
YES, it's the best EVER. Underrated music. Speaking of music have you reached the road to GodHand?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFtm14bpTtE

>>385583742
Post yfw you reached Clyde in the Caldera.

>>385596438
Hmm. There arent really any secrets hidden away by the developers other than that one.

There are some other interesting things (idk if it can really be considered a secret) that you might find cool though.

Killing blinky in 1 rev roll: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9kR-DO8ivI

Shortcut in volcanic panic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3xiaMJu8w8

Shooting off all of whales propellers at once: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-8eh93xU-E

Get onto clydes head early: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP5ya4BrK1o

Those are all kind of speedrun-oriented cause thats what I do mostly, but hopefully its interesting.

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>>385596624
No, too casual.

>>385596438
>>385596772
If you find that kinda stuff interesting you might like the TAS (tool assisted speedrun) that I made last year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weEGU83fefM

If you're unfamiliar with TAS, its basically a way of recording a movie of "perfect" gameplay using savestates and frame by frame button inputs.

>>385583742
Oh god I fucking loved this game.

>>385596895
Pardon my ignorance on the matter but how long does it take to create a TAS? If my understanding is correct you have to manually input each button input on every frame of the game right?

>>385597120
Depends on the game, depends on how optimized you want to make it. You dont have to actually go frame by frame if you don't want to, but you do have the ability to do that whenever you want. For this TAS in particular it took around 140 hours, 70 for the routing and testing, and 70 for the actual imputting.

>>385597207
Are you able to record your inputs of playing the game rather than manually inputting it (and then manually adjusting it for optimization)?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWG-3T6XJWw

>>385596556
standard music is better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP6kq-QmXDU

>>385597491
You can record your inputs, but manually adjusting them is basically such a pain in the ass you'll never ever want to do it. You have to use a hex editor to change the .tas input list by manually scanning through the memory until you find the spot you want to change, and then you'll have to replay the entire TAS to see if it actually works. I had to do this at one point to "copy and paste" one part of a level onto a different part and it took a full day basically lmao. Its really just easiest to optimize while you're inputting.

>>385595774
Assuming these are a very large amount of hot dogs.
If they're not all in a big pile, Pac-Man because he can eat while moving quickly, Kirby is slow and has to stop, inhale, and swallow.
If they're all in a big pile, Kirby because he could suck it up from right in front of it, while Pac-Man would have to circle all over it.

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>>385583742
Just seeing this game's cover makes me so happy. Pac-Man's so fucking cool.

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>>385584419
>play a game as a kid
>it's pretty easy
>go back to it a decade later
>it's retardedly difficult