Why is San Andreas so comfy? It has so many little towns and

Old Rockstar knew to space things out and pay special care to the layout of their maps. Current Rockstar slaps everything they've got on the screen and lets it lay where it lands. How you end up with a map that is half desert and half city that has no satisfying exploration to it.

how come san andreas is so good but every other gta besides 5 and 2 is so bad/mediocore

i mean, half of the time the controls to the games are terrible, gta 3 and vice city both have terrible controls, i don't know how anybody can personally stand it especially in 3

desu I probably had over 500 hours just doing random shit in SA but I couldn't enjoy the open world of GTA V for some reason, just did the story and uninstalled

>>385582538
They work fine for me

>>385582538
GTA V is utter shit.

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>>385582538
>3, vice city, 4
>bad
shit taste desu

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>>385581636

>>385583407
10/10

>>385583407
>Flying way above the map makes it look small
WOW!

>>385583407
I know they couldn't make all 3 cities as big and complex as Los Santos was. But honestly Las Venturas was just so boring in every way.

>Basically just 2 main drag streets with a couple on casinos
>That's literally it

>>385583575
it feels big, but it really isn't, in perspective, like online friends.

>tfw all you wanted was SA with better graphics but Rockstar gave the shit that was GTA V with even less to do in one mega-city

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>Vice City and San Andreas are closer to the actual eras they portray than the current day

time keeps on slippin'

>>385582538
3 is bad because the shooting and cars suck dick but VC and after fixed that you faggot. V is alright but really a step back in a lot of ways and watered down SA.

>shark cards
>stats that literally affect nothing when in SA they affected dialogue, driving bikes, and your character can literally have a fucking heart attack from running too much
>3 characters when IV did intersecting characters better
>one of said characters is just there to be the middleman and could take him out entirely

I'm apprehensive as fuck for future Rockstar games. Damn shame because I fucking love Red Dead as a series and I hope they don't fuck it too hard.

>>385583407
San Fierro was max comf

>>385584014
>>385584014
I heard RDR2 was set in the 1920's

They're gonna fuck it up hardcore, and have jalopy cars and tommy guns all over the place, basically making it another Mafia game

GTA IV was amazing TECHNOLOGY-wise, but honestly, the last time I had real fun with the GTA games was chinatown wars on the DS. Even VIce City Stories for the PSP was better than GTA V.

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>>385584146
>that winding street and the general area around it

now that's what i call comfy

>>385584014

oh come on, V wasn't that bad

it could have been better but its blown out of proportion with how people dislike it. there's plenty of good things about it like the krautrock that turns on when you get 3 stars or higher in it.

>>385584397
you are a bad liar baiter boy

GtaSa remake with a couple new big areas

>>385584612
they'd just butcher it.

>>385584014
III and VC had nearly identical shooting and driving.

>>385581636

The old games couldn't be super detailed so they had to stylize/abstract things which caused them to have character. The newer games are so detailed that they are accurate to their real world counterparts. You don't get an impression of the era or place, you get a photograph. It's kind of like your mind had to fill in the gaps of the older games so you were more engaged and they were more impressionistic. The environments of the newer games just don't have as much character and mood. It also doesn't help that the devs tried to be all mature with IV and make Heat: The Game. Sure it still had some humor and over-the-top stuff but it was way toned down from SA. I remember reading a quote by a dev about SA where he says they designed the environments to seem like movie sets. They weren't trying to make them realistic. The fakeness was part of the design. They were trying to create a fun environment at the expense of realism where as now it's the other way around. It's not necessarily worse, just a different goal.

I'd kill for a new SA that kept pretty much the same level of detail as the original but added better lighting, better draw distance and more to do. More weapons, vehicles, places to go, missions, npcs, and minigames. We never got the skateboard stuff.

>>385581636
The atmosphere in San Andreas was laid back and the people seemed chill. The music and weather really enhanced it combined with the fact that CJ can literally get out of the hood to make something of himself.

>>385582538
GTAV is shit because everyone you meet is stressed out, vapid, or stupid. Driving in Los Santos feels like a chore and the characters except for Dave, Chef, and Floyd are just plan unlikable.

i just want San Andreas but better looking and more npcs doing things like driving and maybe a extra car or 2 i dont even want gta v graphics
>>385584680

>>385584479
It's 90% shit.

>>385584835
Why are newer games striving to be accurate to the real world?

>>385585000

thats how california is though, gta is a parody of america, you may not notice it but half of the stuff in San Andreas is a parody of america and the 90's, I mean there are 69's everywhere across the map

>>385585243
We hit a level of graphics that we can finally approximate real life decently. So of course devs want to strive for realism because it's the first time they really can.

>>385585243
To capitalise on iconic locations for marketing purposes, and because they lack the creativity or patience to create a unique world to the same level of scale and detail as something like IV or V.

>>385581636
because unlike Vice City, it had a lot of hills

>that ambient audio at night

>>385583984
what am i looking at here

>>385585541
the 1992 Los Angeles riots

Didn't SA practically use all of its environment for the missions or something? I remember one anon making the argument as to why San Andreas feels so big compared to other games was because most of the starting cars are slow and because you went all over the map constantly revisiting areas.

I would like a game that's arcadey like San Andreas but with the improvements that the more modern games have made like the superior AI, krautrock chase soundtrack, and the graphics

>>385581636
The engine and physics from SA are starting to show their age.

i want to like SA as much as VC but theres too much losing all weapons parts, and not high enough swimming skill part , and the country side part

>>385583984
What did he mean by this?

>>385585639
saints row?

>>385585793
SA missions suck, all of them are chores rather than fun

>>385585907
meant for
>>385585734

>>385584014
>Shark Cards

Faggot Online player detected.

Shit wasn't even in the game when it released. V has nothing to with the trash that is GTAO and is completely unaffected by shark cards.

How fucking dare you include it into a summarization of the proper installment.

>>385583407
Wow, look at how big the map is! It can't even fit entirely into that shot!

>>385584282

Then it wouldnt be Red Dead numbnuts

>>385585000
I agree about the characters. Everyone was an asshole, only there to make a satirical point.

>SA on PC
>comfy
just lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY3LcF-EwPo

>>385582031
Neither Franklin or Micheal want to leave the city to explore the desert and Trevor is the only one crazy enough to travel between Sandy Shores and Los Santos.

>>385586373
>thinking that disgusting orange filter looks good
I played SA on the PS2 first. When I finally played it on PC, it was like an entire new game for me, and made me realize how shitty it looked on PS2.

>>385586373
Enjoy your drumpf skies

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>>385581636
San Andreas was comfy because the game didn't take itself too seriously. GTA 4 was pure kino with a likeable protagonist. GTA 5 had almost no likeable characters at all with shit exploration. I never would have thought I'd have to force myself to finish a GTA campaign.

>>385581636
>High Tier
GTA SA
GTA 4

>OK Tier
GTA 5
GTA VC
GTA 3
GTA Chinatown Wars

>Filler Tier
GTA Advance
GTA LCS
GTA VCS

>Don't bother playing unless you're above 30
GTA 1
GTA 2
GTA London

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>>385586590
>>385586704
enjoy your cold, soulless inferior port

Definitive way to play is retail PC version with some additional PS2 graphics mods and silentpatch, that or PS4 if you don't mind having half the OST cut out, please avoid the steam version at all costs.

Playing on PS2 at its original resolution is borderline unplayable and the vanilla PC port of the game is on par with VC on how bad it is.

>>385586815
>VCS that low
It may have been filler, but it wasn't boring like LCS.

>>385586815
>GTA 4 as high tier and GTA VC isn't
>GTA 2 in don't bother

imagine being this retarded.

>>385586952
yeah, old games suck and are unplayable. we get it. don't fucking play them then, shut up, i'll kick your ass if you're in wisconsin

>>385586952

What tracks specifically were cut from the PS4 version?

I've been wanting to play something comfy and familiar on PS4 again but am cautious about SA on PS4.

>>385587285
Around 13 or so songs were cut, a lot of good ones are still in there the game is just as playable as it was on PS2 but upscaled, I recommend this version though i'd wait for a sale, £12 is a bit much for a decade old game as good as it is.

>>385587285
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/868277-grand-theft-auto-san-andreas/70449592

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>>385587063
>implying LCS is boring with the shit Toni does.

You tell me if you can find another protag who

>stalked a guy to reveal his diaper fetish
>chopped that same guy up and served him to his own restaurant
>survived chainsaw wielding maniacs after a jealous gang member put a hit on him
>survived his own mother putting a hit on him
>killed the mayor in the park on his jog
>killed several gang members with a katana
>defeated a Japanese Samurai in swordplay on the request of his wife
>blew up an entire section of the map so badly that 3 years later it's still under construction

How does Vic Vance even compete?

>>385582926

Just like your taste.

>>385587285
I know Hellraiser and FUCK YOU I WONT DO WHAT YOU TELL ME were cut for sure because I specifically tried to listen out for them

>>385587793
Except not even 5 years later he becomes a fatass who can't even handle 2 triads and is only armed with a baseball bat, even worse than being gunned down in a deal gone wrong.

>>385586161
Online was always a focus, though. It took time and resources that would've been better spent on the singleplayer.

>>385587793
Toni did those things because he's trying to please his irrational mother, and paranoid mob boss. Vic on the other hand was the brains behind the Vance Brothers Empire and used to be an army solider before it.

>>385587860
>likes GTA V
>leddit spacing
WHAT A SURPRISE

>>385588098
Online was barely a focus untill the game was released, first few DLCs were subpar as fuck and not to mention the godawful launch and non existant anti-cheat (which a decent one still hasn't been added to this day).

>>385588034
Toni became fatass because everyone thought he was skinny.

After 5 years on da East coast, it was time to go home.

>>385588159
>Toni did those things because he's trying to please his irrational mother, and paranoid mob boss. Vic on the other hand was the brains behind the Vance Brothers Empire and used to be an army solider before it.


It's really tragic when you put it all into perspective with how things turn out in the future

>Toni moves back in with is mom and she fattens him up to a fat slob
>Sal gets killed by a guy who doesn't even talk after his own wife saves his life because she was having an affair with an Yakuza bisexual with an S&M fetish and wanted to save herself
>Leone most likely fell apart since Joey probably can't even handle a gang since he spends all his time in the mechanic shop and Toni is too fat to work again.

>Vic dies in a deal gone wrong and his brother dies when he tries to backstab Tommy.

It's like all GTA protags suffer after their stories are told.

Look at what happened to Johnny in GTA 5.

>>385588507
Still hoping Malc comes back in GTA6 to shoot Trevor in the face.

>>385588507
At least CJ is safe after the gta 3d era got retconned

>>385588727
nah he's staying in GTA online where he belongs.

>>385588507
It's possible that Vic was indirectly killed by Lance setting up a deal with a client they knew nothing about. Considering that half of the plot of VCS was caused by Lance's stupidity, it might've been plausible.

>>385586373
>>385586863
http://gtaforums.com/topic/750681-skygfx-ps2-and-xbox-graphics-for-pc/

>>385588727
Anyone getting rid of Trevor would be a good thing.

>>385588507
>toni too fat to work again

Most mobsters at that age are fat pieces of shit, he'll be fine.

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>>385588727
>implying Trevor isn't already dead after Michael and Trevor set him on fire.

IV was the best game.

>>385588907
Trevor will most likely die committing suicide in his later years with a self inflicted gunshot to the head.

>>385588165
Anon, it's not reddit spacing. It's not even 4chan spacing, people do it everywhere and at least he's not a fucking phone posting faggot.

>>385588907
considering he ALMOST sold a nuke to the chinese. Trevor either needs someone to rein him in or put him down.

>>385589026
Or someone puts that edgy "cut here" tattoo to good use.

Is it bad that I like Liberty City's map?

>>385588992
>implying that's the real ending

>>385589136
Why would that be bad?

>>385589045
Selling the nuke to the chinese wasn't the problem, it's was planning a heist without any contingency plan to get rid of the heat that got him in trouble.

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>>385589136
Only if you like an airport taking up 20% of the map.

>>385589295
Shoreside Vale is pretty underdeveloped in general.

>>385589295
where else are you gonna learn to fly the dodo

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>>385581636
>Niggerland Ghetto everywhere
>Comfy
What.

>>385589405
>enable car flying cheat
>spawn tank
>aim cannon backwards
>keep firing as you explore the heavens
Good times.

>>385582538
Maybe if you play them on console like a fuckin faggot.

>>385583407
>>>385583536 >>385583575 >>385583621 >>385584146 >>385586171
>they don't realize this is Sim City
I just got reminded the average age of a /v/ user

>GTA5
>create 2+ endings
>all of them are shit except the safe one

>>385582926
this

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>shitty pc
>don't want to buy PS4 just to play V

How bad is the PS3 version?

>>385590909
I haven't played it in years since I'm busy with work and lost my controller but I remember it being pretty good.

Never did get into online though.

>>385589136
I've always had a soft spot for 3 because of the countless hours I've spent watching my brother play it/playing it myself. One of the best soundtracks from GTA, too.

>>385590909
It's pretty much just the mobile version.

>>385585639
There was a few areas in the desert that were never used for anything. I forgot the name of it, but that one town with the boating school in it went completely unused. Besides the boating school, there was nothing else to it, aside from a hidden weapon or two. The town was big enough that you'd think there would have been a mission in it, or at least a buyable house, but you end up skipping over it entirely.

>>385588992
>implying Trevor isn't already dead after Michael and Trevor set him on fire.
>after Michael and Trevor set him on fire.
Woah...

>>385589295
it seems like they made the first to islands and then thought "we still need the dam and airport"

most of shoreside vale seems kinda rushed

>>385582538
V is objectively the worst game in the franchise you tasteless faggot.

Exploring actually feels rewarding because in GTAV the collectibles aren't worth shit and you can just buy all the guns and keep them forever. Also GTAV just felt empty if you ignore the missions, the map is huge but there's nothing to do besides missions.

>>385581636
Cars are slower thus making the illusion that the map is bigger than it looks like, missions are neatly divided between each areas so that it truly feels like you're going on a long journey (going from LS missions to the countryside and finally SF). Not to mention the diverse and actually good soundtrack ranging from classic hip hop to country music.

V's mistake was making the singleplayer missions short and they didn't even use the maps completely. The prison and military base is ignored, for example.

>>385589526
>niggerlands and ghettos
I know this is shitposting but those are only in the beginning and the later parts of the game. Countryside, SF, desert and LV missions are easily the best

>>385581636
>It has so many little towns and gas stations and motels that are fun to see and explore.
Yeah sure, except there's nothing to do in these towns and the only highlight is like finding a gun there or something. Having stuff in your game look cool or unique, sure that's allright, but if it's just a town what's the damn point? Should've kept rampages, or had some other kind of activity. That said I do love san andreas huge open landscape, it is cool to drive through or fly over.

>>385589349
whhy
captcha; Generation STOP

>>385593530
>V's mistake was making the singleplayer missions short and they didn't even use the maps completely. The prison and military base is ignored, for example.

That and most of the countryside was taken up by the mountains. We only needed one or two mountains tops. They could have then used the rest of that space for more towns and extending some of the biomes, like making the desert bigger. For being the "Grand" Senora Desert, it sure was small.

If there is one thing I liked about GTAV over the previous games, it's the in-game, dynamic soundtrack. A lot of the original music was pretty great, and the fact that it was dynamic and reflected the current intensity of the situation worked well. Sometimes I'd go out of my way to leave the radio in a vehicle off during chase scenes just to listen to what the game was already playing.

>>385582563
It's called growing up, anon.

>>385584282
Sounds kinda comfy, the last, dying dream of the frontier disappearing under mechanization.

>>385586791
that pic anon, my whole fucking childhood and early puberty

>>385586815

>GTA 2

Fuck off faggot. GTA 2 is arguably one of the top 3 GTA games.

>>385589039
What's wrong with phone posting?

>>385584014
>3 is bad because the shooting and cars suck dick but VC and after fixed that
Confirmed for NEVER having played GTA3 and VC

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>>385581636
nostalgia. there are so many little towns and gas stations and motels in gtaV, but you'll never see it because you're not a kid anymore and you don't care about such details. But with SA, you still remember the awe, the detail, the excitement, things you'll possibly never experience again in your vidya life.

>tfw all vidya i do now is occasional one new title per six months, rest of playing is replaying oldies
well, it's not like deus ex gets any worse after hundredth playthrough

>>385590909
beaten it on ps3, it was fine except ugly and with framerate drops when shit hits the fan. As long as you don't intend to explode three cars at once, you won't even feel it.

I literally just finished GTA V, and came here to talk about SA. how the fuck did Rockstar fuck up so bad? San andreas was so fucking dope, I remember myself playing it ten years ago because of how memorable a lot of the stuff in it is, and somehow GTA V just fucks it all up? And the multiplayer isn't any fucking better. I tried it yesterday with a friend (also new to the multiplayer), and there was some guy with a jet bombing every player on the server. Everyone was shit, so he just killed the whole server over and over because somehow a full priced 60$ game needs in game purchases and is pay to win.

Fuck rockstar. I wish I never played GTA V and had just downloaded San Andreas again

>>385600491
It was all over once they realised they could fleece people with microtransactions.

>>385593530
>they didn't even use the maps completely. The prison and military base is ignored, for example.

this triggered me a lot. There's so much of the map that's NEVER used, why would they do it? did they really only add the prison there so you could have that one line about dave? and was the military base just for the Cargobob (which was obviously forced, given the FIB later buys one for a mission, which implies you could have also bought one, if the writers cared a bit about consistency).

What about the Jets? Did they really not even care that, for many San Andreas players, Vertical Bird was their favorite mission? What the fuck was Rockstar thinking, holy shit.

And don't even get me started on the gangs. the Ballas and the Vargos are somehow completely ignored in the game, grove street doesn't exist, and the thing Frank/Lamar talk about forming a new gang is completely forgotten later on.

>>385583621
I have to agree. LV is just not a fun city to play in. I have the other two memorized rather well but I still get lost in LV due to how little time I actually spend there. Still driving around freeway at top speed is a lot of fun, especially using the speed glitch!

>>385585243
Because casuals only care about muh graphics.

Unfortunately, devs know that /g/-like players aren't the majority anymore, and many of us even pirate their games.
And don't get me started on in game purchases or DLC. I'm pretty sure no one on /g/ is a big spender on those, and given how GTA V still had microtransactions even though it was a 60$ game, it kinda shows how this is really the focus of devs.

One day, every game will be generic garbage, just like modern movies, unfortunately. We will have to tell our children how there once were a time where gaming was something actually extraordinary

>>385601934
>One day, every game will be generic garbage, just like modern movies
Aren't we already there? I swear everything is a fucking survival game now. Even Zelda surprisingly

>>385602141
A...are we?


Fuck, I guess you're right. I just started thinking about the last big release that was actually good, and couldn't really think of anything. But I guess at least there are still a few indie devs doing some good work out there.

>>385601934
>One day, every game will be generic garbage, just like modern movies, unfortunately.
We're already there.
>We will have to tell our children how there once were a time where gaming was something actually extraordinary
We're telling the new /v/ users these days this and they just call us nostalgiafags.

>>385602280
I realized that it wasn't nostalgia when I went back to playing melee after giving up the game for like 10 years. I know Melee is a bit controversial of a game here on /g/, but it feels so much better than any other Smash game that it is insane. And, ironically, the lastest Smash release also has shitty DLC and microtransactions, which I guess kinda proves the point that we're already there.

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San Fierro was so comfy

>>385602437
>I know Melee is a bit controversial of a game here on /g/
Good thing this is /v/ then.

>>385589526
So you didnt even make it past the first 6 hours?

>>385602825
fuck. kek

Sorry, too tired and mad rn to shitpost correctly.

>>385601934
fucking shit, I said /g/ in here as well. I hope you all understand I meant /v/, fuck

>>385602940
That's okay, v and g are really close on a keyboard. Anyone could have mixed them up.

>>385602979
It was more of a double brain fart than typos desu.

It's 6AM here. I should have been sleeping at least 4 hours ago

>>385603157
Funnily enough it's 6pm here. What a crazy world we live in.

>>385603280
w...where the fuck are you.

I'm shitposting from a land where GTA is actually an utopian fiction (aka Brazil)

>>385603515
Australia.

>>385602587
I don't remember San Fierro looking like that.

>>385581636
>GTA
>fun to explore
The worlds are dead. Nothing to find but cars.