How do I beat this fucker?
>>385576225
Well, first you then the round is won. Just repeat that and you shouldn't have a problem.
It's pretty easy actually. First you that should be enough to beat him.
>>385576523
Come on man. We have been over this.
You and then you have won. It's not that hard.
>>385576523
It's not that fucking hard to understand, go back to and THAT'S how you guarantee to cheese him.
IT
JUST
WORKS
reminder that there is still no logical explanation for how this stand works
>>385577460
it just
Fuck King Crimson, how the fuck do Gyro's "original gags" work?
>>385577742
It just works anon
>>385577460
It makes sense if you ignore Bruno seeing himself and Diavolo taking the pictures off the wall. I think Araki had a clear idea of how it worked but just didn't think through some of the scenarios to make sure that they actually made sense.
>>385576225
>Losing to Diavolo ever
He is one of the worst in ASB. In fact if it wasn't for his, he would be the worst.
Is that reference?
>>385576523
What don't you get? You just have to and then you're good. THAT simple.
>>385581445
Yes
>>385577460
I swear I've explained this a thousand times. It works by it's pretty simple once you understand it. He's easy to cheese too, you just and like that you've pretty much won.
>>385576225
You'll need at least 3 more copies of Skyrim to beat me
>>385582226
It literally doesn't work, there is an explanation but it doesn't encompass everything he can do since Araki is inconsistent with his powers.
>>385582226
Yeah but anytime I play him and i'm about to attack, my finger lands on some button I never touched, and he isnt' hurt. It's like he or something.
>>385582735
more
>>385582795
I meant to post this.
>>385582735
I'd use that, if you know what I mean.
>>385582838
i said more.
>>385576523
Are or something? Fucking .
How do I beat this fucker?
>>385583706
You gotta fuck his little boipucci.
>>385583706
just skip time or shrink him, easy.
this guy is impossible how could i ever want to kill him
>>385584236
>not perfecting the spin
What are you, gay?
part 5 had the best fights in the series, but the worst boss fight
>>385584236
>he cant perfect his spinning
lmao git gud
>>385576225
Fucking noobs man,
Do as win is, after that make sure to not lose.
There, next question
>>385584236
Did you faggots miss a few pages or something? That whole muh patriotism was to decieve Johnny, he meant to kill him all along. He was never the good guy, he just made idiots think he was with his big words and speeches. Sadly, most fans are idiots and fell for his superflous diatribe.
>>385584667
I felt like the whole part from Requiem awakening to Giorno getting the arrow was the final fight with Diavolo and I really liked it, even if it wasn't a direct fight with him. I mean, I've only read through up to part 6 but it was my favorite climax so far.
>>385584907
>he meant to kill him all along
literally why. what an idiot
>>385584907
no he wanted america to be great
>>385584907
And he would've gotten away with it, if it weren't for that kid and his meddling horse
>>385585390
O MY KICKING HORSE
>>385577460
>king crimson's ability is erasing time
>king crimson erases time by selecting a timeframe up to 10 seconds, which he can select thanks to his ability epitaph which shows him the future
>for instance, if you are hit with a bullet during the timeframe which king crimson ends up deleting, you end up being fine since that instance of you being hit by a bullet never happened because it was erased by king crimson
>>385585451
>if you are hit with a bullet during the timeframe which king crimson ends up deleting, you end up being fine since that instance of you being hit by a bullet never happened because it was erased by king crimson
>>385585451
Pretty sure that last part is bullshit. People still stand wherever they would have been standing if the 10 seconds had happened and Narancia literally ate chocolate during the erased time, only Diavolo isn't affected by what would have happened in erased time.
>>385585451
that's not true. if the effects during skipped time are erased, then how does he cut off Trish's arm and how does he kill Narancia? how does he clean his room? how does the blood drop trick work?
>>385577460
reminder you are an idiot and should read the manga
>>385585447
O MY REQUIEM ARROW
O MY STAR PLATINUM THE WORLD
O MY MAGICAL VOLCANO
O MY JAPANESE AMBULANCE
>>385584907
Everything he did, he did for America. Yes, he betrayed Johnny, but only because he could not allow sentimentality stand in the way of America's destiny.
>>385576225
>Silver Chariot Requiem causes people to switch bodies with each other
>Diavolo gets stuck in his stand's body
I have no idea how the fuck that makes any sense, Part 5 completely fell apart in the final battle
I want another fun Jojo fighting game
>>385586196
>M'urica
>kills citizens and his own workers for no reason
>>385586215
No he didn't, he got stuck in Mista's body and since he wasn't use to being in control of a body most of the time he was pushed to the back behind Trish's soul. King Crimson was just there to represent his presence since it was confusing, and clearly still too much so for you.
>>385584907
He was patriotic, its just that Johnny was a selfish asshole that couldn't be trusted with the corpse
>>385586215
>he read the old translations
>>385577460
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cdMIPG28_k
part 5 is my favorite mostly because of this absolute madman
>>385584907
daily reminder that valentine raped a 14 year old girl and there is literally nothing you can say to justify it.
>>385586478
And he wouldn't get the corpse either. The deal was bring back Gyro for the corpse and not to kill Valentine and Valentine wanted his cake and to eat it too.
>>385586478
>its just that Johnny was a selfish asshole that couldn't be trusted with the corpse
Why is why he made the deal. It means Johnny gets what he desires for himself and he gets the corpse for himself. But no, he had to shoot Johnny like an idiot.
>>385586597
pix or it never happened
>>385586486
that was the only translation when I read it
>>385586406
oh that makes some sense thanks
Why does the West hate Part 5 so much? Is it really just because of the translation?
>>385586108
This still pisses me off. Star Platinum was such a fucking dumb stand.
>>385586597
but he didn't even successfully do it. The corpse part chose her or whatever and then she became a corpse part
I'm not complaining about the Jojo thread but it sure is V I D E O G A M E S in here
Also Narancia is the best gangster
>>385586620
what part of "could not be trusted with the corpse" did you fail to grasp?
>>385586708
read the manga
>>385586808
shouldn't have gotten all knocked up with corpse parts
>>385585176
6s climactic fight is really something special, thats all I'll say. leave now before ypu get spoiled
so what's it gonna take to get another good Jojo game
I'm not buyin' EOH
Why didn't Valantine just summon 100 clones to fuck up Johnny and Gyro? He only makes like 3 at a time.
>>385586597
14 is prime breeding age back then
>>385586956
That hair looks like shit
>>385585709
He doesn't attack people during erased time because he can't interact with them. Events still occur, or rather the end results do, but the inbetween is gone. The blood drop trick works because the blood drops independent of any human action. The blood dropping gets erased, but the result of it hitting the ground remains. It's like Diavolo says, all that matters are the results.
>>385586981
Maybe because those Valentines needed to deal with their worlds Johnny and Gyros.
>>385587057
when's your OVA coming out, Rohan?
>>385586735
The translation meme doesn't hold water anymore ever since it got retranslated.
>>385587114
that seems quite literally pointless. who gains anything from erasing brief periods of time if the end results are still the same?
>>385586735
the more outlandish/flamboyant/effeminate designs I'd guess
it's still my favorite
>>385587114
>if you are hit with a bullet during the timeframe which king crimson ends up deleting, you end up being fine
>you end up being fine
no you don't, effects still happen during that time which is exactly what I'm saying. I'm just saying that this part is false.
>>385587228
Because he is immune to anything from those 10 seconds and can position himself in a better place for when the time is normal again. Like they say in the part itself, he's essentially unkillable in a straight fight.
>>385587228
Because Diavolo himself is the only one that can act in erased time. He doesn't have to worry about what would happen because he can avoid anything that comes his way.
>>385587304
I'm not the one who said that, I was just saying why the results are the important part.
>>385587114
>he can't interact with them
>>385587228
Since he can see the future, and know where everything will wind up, it ends up presenting itself as possibly the most disorienting teleportation possible.
There is *teleports behind you*, then there is king crimson's *teleports both of you somewhere else entirely and his fist is already inside you*
Not only that but he can prevent negative events from occurring
>I see im going to get shot
>skip the bullet impact
>im fine, the bullets are behind me.
>>385587570
That was part of himself though, he just moved it there so it would blind him.
>the villains use the power of friendship
>>385585709
He took off Trish's arm and killed Narancia because he would have done those things anyway
If he can physically overpower and kill someone without the time erasure he can kill them yet skip the time he does it in to do it discretely
>>385587570
Correct, he can't. All he did is spray blood at him, it won't affect Polnareff until erased time has passed. It's like how DIO threw knives at Jotaro in stopped time. The knives didn't reach or harm him until after time resumed. If you look closely at that page you posted, several of those blood splotches are just hanging in front of his face.
>>385587734
Easily one of the best fights in the series. Say what you will about Giorno and how he's written, but Part 5 had some really solid fights.
>>385586808
She got pregnant with Jesus, therefor it's justified
>>385587758
>If he can physically overpower and kill someone without the time erasure he can kill them yet skip the time he does it in to do it discretely
Why did he wait until after the timeskip to kill Abbaccio who has a shit combat stand?
>>385587758
No, he is free from acting based on Epitaph's predictions. I think he cut Trish's arm off right after the time skip, but as for Narancia either he was able to interact with erased time due to Requiem powering up his stand orAraki forgothow King Crimson works.
>>385587950
Right but he can be like "I am going to kill Narancia in this way over the next ten seconds" then erase time and bam it's done
>>385587114
I believe he can interact with people so long as he was fated to do so. Everyone except for him acts according to their fate in the erased time, so I believe if he was destined to kill someone in the erased time he will still kill them even if he erases that period, which is how Narancia was killed.
>>385588065
What the fuck? So he can instakill Narancia during skipped time who is surrounded by 5 stand users but can't even one-shot Bruno or Abbachio during that time?
>>385588065
But he isn't affected by fate during erased time, that's the whole point of KC. Everyone else still acts exactly as they would have even without thinking but he is free to see it all and act how he wants. If what you said was the case then he could have killed Bruno during erased time, yet didn't.
>>385586610
No, the deal was bring back gyro for stopping the infinite rotation. Valentine was beaten by the infinite rotation and then tried to strike this deal so he could win. If Valentine loses, then America doesn't get the corpse since Johnny would have possession of it, and Johnny only cares about returning to zero and doesn't give jackshit about America.
>>385576523
t. dumb fucki etard
>>385588260
>Everyone else still acts exactly as they would have even without thinking but he is free to see it all and act how he wants.
I should have added "but can't affect anything in the erased time" to the end of that. The picture thing in the hotel doesn't really make sense though, so maybe there really is no explanation and Araki is just insane.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny5eBBuGlNU
are you gonna watch it?
>>385588256
He doesn't get to say "I think I'll just kill Narancia now" and then do it. He will follow his fate just like everyone else and the only time he can act of his own free will is in the erased time. If Epitaph sees someone other than himself dying then that person will die, whether time is erased or not, because he can only change his own fate.
>>385588256
>>385588260
He was able to kill Narancia without needing to erase time because everyone was still disoriented by the body switch and she's a shitty straight up fighter
Bruno is way too fast to fight head on so he can't beat him without using the time erasure and therefor can't just skip straight to him winning
He didn't kill Abaccio like this because Araki hadn't thought of this yet
>>385586735
because it righteously shits on amerilards and that upsets them
>>385577742
The joke is he isn't funny.
>>385588556
Lets say he didn't skip time, how would he killed Narancia and impaled him on a railing 5 metres in the air while surrounded by stand users?
>>385588673
part 5 isn't steel ball though
>>385588746
Throw hom on there amidst the confusion if the body switch, I suppose. He's certainky strong enough to do so, though I would also ask why he wouldn't just donut Narancia instead.
>>385588625
I don't know, maybe. He did use time skip though right when Narancia died but perhaps it was just to position KC in a spot where he could kill Narancia without them seeing. It all still seems weird though, I'm curious if the anime will change any of this stuff or try to explain it better.>she
King Crimson is inconsistent within Part 5 that's why it's so confusing, it just changes it's function, at some point it activates and during that time a cat walks over Giorno and leaves paw prints on his pants, and another time it activates and bullets pass through Diavolo and then hit Risotto, how can these both be the same ability?
>>385588746
Grabbed him with KC and dunked him onto it before anyone could react because everyone was confused as fuck from the body swapping
>>385588896
AEROSMISSU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf0oXY4nDxE
>>385588912
Because Diavolo can't interact with erased time but everybody else does. Why are we still stuck on this, that's like the only part of KC that's clearly explained.
>>385588494
only because I enjoyed reading it, so yes. are they doing the other stories too? i love when he goes to find the sacred painting or whatever
>it's another "how does King Crimson work" thread
>>385588912
Pretty much this, the confusion with King Crimson's abilities comes from Araki being inconsistent with what they actually do. He also does this with D4C with the who shot johnny bit.
>>385589061
yeah it's a bit bizarre
What's your favorite time stand? Mine is King
>>385589109
It's quite the adventure.
>>385587057
WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU JUST SAY ABOUT MY HAIR?
So when the fuck is King Crimson showing up in Jojolion
It's gonna fucking happen with all the Higashikata's King stands
>>385588989
So how does he throw blood in people's faces twice
>>385588913
So he jammed him all the way up there while surrounded by 5 people? fuck that, he should've just punched him in the head
>>385589260
Because that's part of him. He just puts it there the same way he can move himself in erased time.
>>385586956
>I'm not buyin' EOH
As someone who owns eyes of heaven, I just want to say you made the right call.
>>385589264
It would be way more obvious who attacked him if he did that
>>385589197
it's shit anon
>>385589319
And Narancia?
Why does Jojolion have such shitty stands?
>>385589319
>>385588989
If he can't interact with anyone how did he carry Trish all the way down the elevator shaft while time skipped?
play for the ps2
>>385589428
Araki forgot, Requiem changed how his stand worked, or he didn't do it during erased time. Read the thread.
>>385589450
I'd say it's half and half, a lot of the main cast have great visual designs and some neat abilities, but I'd have to agree that outside of Vitamin C a lot of enemy stands have been lacking
>>385589528
>requiem changed how his stand worked
biggest bullshit I've heard in my life
>>385589463
Who knows, this stand only mostly makes sense. Maybe he only used it to get into the elevator without Bruno noticing then got out without using it.
>>385589528
>Araki forgot
Which is in line with my point
>Requiem changed how his stand worked
Also in line with my point but this is BS anyways
>Didn't do it in erased time
His stand isn't that fast.
>>385589647
Literally read the manga.
>>385577460
Real life lag
Diavolo is the server host
Araki was always fucking around with how stands of villains work to hype them up and keep the readers guessing.
Remember when Dio's The World moved Polnareff down the stairs over and over? So Dio basically had The World grab Polnareff and move him down the stairs during the time stop? total bs
Same thing goes with King Crimson. In his first showing it's all weirdo undefined shit and later on he basically decided what the stand does.
And don't even get me started on D4C
>>385589902
Not an argument. Explain how SCR changes how Diavolo's stand works or else this is just headcannon bullshit. It's just purely inconsistent.
>>385586108
I could not believe this was real.
Iassumed they added it for the anime
>>385577460
Life is like a book
Diavolo can rip off a page
The events still happen, but there's a page missing
>>385589982
All we get is that he makes stands stronger, it doesn't say how. It's just a guess that somehow that is what allowed it to work but it's the best I got. I agree that it's inconsistent, I would just rather try to justify as many things as possible than throw them all out.
>>385586108
>Araki savagely murders best dog within the same arc where this shit happens
>>385589450
JJL has some of the best Stands, you loser. S&W, Nut King Call, Vitamin C, King Nothing and almost every other one is great. The only one that I'd consider bad is California King Bed.
>>385589982
d4c changed when funny got old
>>385589939
On the top of my head.
>DIO's hermit purple ability
>Kakyoin's marionette controling ability
>Giorno's reflection ability
>Diavolo could make people see themselves
>Annasui's impact storing ability
>Pucci's illusion mist ability
>Sandmans ""sand"" powers
And in general:
>stands can shrink any time by concentrating
>Jotaro's stand (and other stands) can all extend 20m+ but they get weaker
>stands can phase into people's bodies
>>385577460
King Crimson takes 10 seconds of time and "erases" it. Events like a bullet firing or a car stopping at a light still happen, but people won't remember it.
During these "erased" ten seconds, Diavlo can move about more freely and remember what occurred in that time frame.
No one can challenge Dio and DIO
I want to nut inside Daiya
>>385590813eyelasers
>>385590980
It's like im in the cancerous Jojo containment threads all over again
>>385591046
Excuse me butSPASSURIPPUHSTINGYEYESSU
Could Homura beat King Crimson?
Heritage to the Future sequel with an EOH-sized roster would be the Jojo GOAT
>>385590813
Hey DIO, where's your boyfriend?
>>385591373
A more appropriate matchup would be DIO since Diavolo counters her
>still no part 5 anime announcement
it's over.. isn't it?
Why can't they stab him with a barbed spear or something?
Even if he tries to erase time, he can't just remove a barbed spear within 10 second or something
>>385586478
The hilarious part of this statement is that you are completely fucking right, and it got Johnny killed in the end.
>>385591741
Patience you dingus, the Rohan OVA is done so it won't be long until it gets announced
>>385591741
There is no fucking way they're not doing part 5. Stardust Crusaders Anime ended in June 2015, over a year before DiU.
>>385590568
White snake was always away from pucci before the reveal and it was weaker, so the 20m rules wasnt totally forgotten
>>385591790
But johnny choose to kill himself, if he wanted he could had cured himself with thr holy corpse
>>385577460
It's The Hand but with Time.
>>385589939
The World is slightly bullshit but it's very consistent. If you throw out all the unnecessary talking during the final fight everything DIO does makes sense. The Polnareff thing is a little bullshit but it's definitely possible.
Obviously DIO's stand changed over time, but once they hit Egypt Araki's uncharacteristically consistent with how The World is used.
D4C makes sense, it's just the Who Shot Johnny Joestar arc is told in the most confusing way possible. Valentine baited the other two into two separate alternate realities where each one shot Johnny Joestar. Because of a (later dropped) power of D4C, all these events were visible from the same reality, hence why the kids were confused. From there on out all D4C does is bring stuff in and out of alt universes.
Discuss
>>385593112
part 8 proves that Koichi really is best girl
>>385591508
>balanced, well made 2D fighter
>with the roster of copypaste overstuuffed 3D fighters
Not happening fag. If we got a DBZF stylized Jojo fighter we'd get 20 fighters tops, and only because Jojo is a big deal in Japan. Which means 8 (maybe 9 if that part's started by then) Jojos, 7 villains (only one Dio), and 4-5 free slots, probably for JoBros like PolPol/Gyro and fan favorites like Hol Horse and Diego.
>>385592218
>White snake was always away from pucci before the reveal and it was weaker
His stand is a long ranged stand that can 1v3 close combat stands by himself. Whitesnake OP