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Post up some lobbies, it's git gud time.

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Post up some lobbies, it's git gud time.
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Its trash
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>>385568145
You're getting faster at your reaction times.
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>>385567903
I need some Venom tips. I just learned how to use backspin and got some basic combos and ball setups. What's the gameplan in matches?
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>>385568939
Try to jump the cue ball
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Anyone up in EU PSN? Will make a lobby if anyone responds
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PC lobby when? I have an urge to unga.
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>>385568939

Watch some 310 (Sako) on YouTube.
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something about Baiken feels off. I like playing her but it seems like I'm always at a disadvantage. what needs to be done to fix her?
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>>385570415
Sato*
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>>385567903

I'm pretty trash at the game right now, but if anyone is playing on PS4, I'm down. I'm on East Coast.
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>>385571359
Man, I want to but I've got a gnarly sinus headache tonight.
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Should I play Guilty Gear or Blazblue? I can only play one game. Present your case.
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>>385572104
Blazblue is essentially over for a few years. It may get rebooted down the road. Guilty Gear Xrd will likely have a few more updates before getting finished. At this point, it's harder to learn BB due to larger cast size, alternatively, you'd only be learning 25 potential matchups in Xrd.
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>>385572104
Play whatever game has more girls that appeal to your dick
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Making a PSN Midwest lobby, code is t1vf
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>>385572434
this is the true answer

>>385572104
the thing that helped me decide was I-no being into anal.
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>>385570415
>>385568939
310, Isamu, and Fino are the Venom GODS, and its funny how different all their Venoms are. Isamu is probably the neutral master, Fino has setups and reads, and 310 is more well rounded. I would say 310 is the worst out of the three, even with the top 8 evo.
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>>385572104
I personally like how amazing Xrd looks and its characters, but Blazblue is way less ded. GG is way better balanced than BB right now, but CF2 is supposed to fix BB soon.
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Started a PC lobby "br77"
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>>385572583
absolutely perfect taste, anon
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>>385572104
>>385572730
This is why I dropped BB and started playing GG more seriously. At first I liked the characters of the first BB was good, but with every iteration came worse and worse designs. I mean, I love my anime, but that shit got way too weeb for me.

Meanwhile Guilty Gear still looks fucking awesome.
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>>385572741
Region?
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>>385567903
Can I pirate GG Xrd REV2 on Steam to try it out?
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>>385572937
>that shit got way too weeb
What did you think you were getting? It was anime as fuck from the start
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>>385573006
I guess southwest US?
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>>385568145
Still posting the trash player
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>>385572581
How many of you guys are playing in there? Might hop on there instead and close the PC lobby if no one ends up showing up
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guilty gear is for faggots and nerds , play tekken
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>>385573763

>3D fighters
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>>385573710
Me and a Jack-O, another guy entered but dipped
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Europoor looking to get rekt at 5-8 frames delay on PC.

Please respond
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>>385573037
It just went way too generic anime shit with most of the new characters.
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Reminder to report and hide spam
Reminder generals belong on /vg/

https://boards.fireden.net/_/search/image/qt1qmEEFSLZ16rqKdln2iw/
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>>385574057

Okay, I'll be on in a sec
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>>385573763
>ANOTHER SAINT vs JDCR GRANDFINALS
The game is fun, but holy shit the competitive scene for that game is a joke. Might as well give your entrance fee to Echofox up front. There's no faster way to kill the hype of any game when literally the same 2 guys end up in grandfinals
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>>385572741
Not found?
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Pretty cool to see a Bedman player for once
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Hows Dizzy in this game?
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>>385576143
Easy to pick up but tough to master
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>>385576143
Mid tier. Weird hurtbox of hers can screw up certain character combos. Amazing cross up setups. Good damage but like in previous games, can't take much and gets dizzied faster
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No one else joining NA lobby?
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>>385576143
hard to play imo. She's not intuitive like other characters. You need a lot of knowledge to understand what kind of summons to use, to understand how to utilize your oki. Combos are hard to.
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>>385577025
Too early. Try later tonight. You'll get more people.
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I learned / still learning the game as Potemkin, am I gimping myself for other characters who actually have to land proper combos that aren't just 5K, c.S, l.S, 6S, 6D?
The most complex thing I've learned is Hammerfall breaking into Air Combos but I am pretty alright at backdash > buster and confirming anti-air counters, I also learned a lot more about matchups and certain characters in the process.

I just fear that I'm ont training wheels right now and when I try to learn a Character with actual movement / knockdown game I'll be at point 1 all over again.
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>>385577123
It'll probably extend into later in the night, not sure about the thread though.
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I'll make a lobby.
PC US East Coast Lobby.
Room Name: Start playing GG
Room ID: 4577

Worst comes to worst, I'll leave the lobby open while staying AFK. I'm the lorefag anon from previous threads, I'd be willing to answer any questions I can while waiting.
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>Wanna play with /v/
>My PS+ expired
>I can pay it until monday.
Being poor is sad.
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why do people make password lobbies for 4chin and r*ddit and discord instead of just making it public with their region in the title wtf lmao
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>>385577158
Not really

Plenty of characters have basic gattling combo as well. You will have more difficulty learning airdash later on. Also, Pot has much more difficult combo of 6k hammerfall cancel loop so you aren't off the hook for difficult execution. Everyone character's difficulty in execution is also unique and different from each other.
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>>385577841
Loreanon can you give the rundown on Chipp Zanuff. Why does he want to be a president?
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>>385578017
>6k Hammerfall Loop

Just kill me right now. Charge moves need to stay gone forever.
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I'm new to this game, but friends convinced me to start. I've never played a fighting game before.

Is it best to pick a character and just practice them nonstop? Should I use more than one character to mix things up?
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Is getting good at Arcade mode any indicator of how good your gonna do online? For most fighting games the AI is pretty cheese but the AI in this game seem decently good, specifically at blocking and rush down.
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>>385578390
try some old school venom shit
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>>385568939
spam 6p and when you get a knockdown, try to hit them with meaty charged balls, either from stinger or qvc. Eat their hp or their meter.
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>>385578241
Chipp was born into extreme poverty and sold drugs to survive. Eventually he got addicted to his own supply and was going to be killed by the Mafia for it. But he was saved by a traveling ninja grandmaster who taught him ninjustsu and turned his life around. Chipp wants to be president because the lesson he learned from this was "never ignore the suffering in front of you". He figured the best way to protect the weak would to be the leader of his own nation.
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>>385578743
Not really. The AI is nothing compare to real life players.
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>>385578390
You'll get used to it eventually. You can always learn it later. You'll do fine in mid level with a single 6k hammerfall brake cancel into the flame pillar thing and air combo in corner. That'll still do plenty of damage.

6k into hammerfall brake also leads to some pretty good set up for your pressure and can let you land pot buster so you should familiarize yourself with the execution even if you can't loop it yet
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>>385578743
Not really except against crazy people like Ky's who spam greed server. It might help you get use to reacting to that bullshit but online crazies have frame delay to hide behind.

>>385578731
I recommend trying everyone to see who you like the most, then practicing the one like the most.
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>>385578731
Explore all characters then pick a character that clicks. Alternatively, you can try the beginner characters and see where it goes (Ky, Sol, Elphelt, Leo, Sin,Raven, Faust, May)
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>>385573026
lots
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>>385572104

Blazgreen has longer combos and is a bit slower compared to GG. Stay for the story.

GG is more about pressure-corner carry. Lot faster. Story is wack but daily reminder that Ky is Sol's father-in-law.
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>>385579518
Other way around
Sol was BF's with Aria who is Justice who is the mother of Dizzy who is the wife of Ky
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>>385578731
Just choose the one that looks the coolest or cutest to you.

Alternatively you can always look at some tier lists and be a fag, but I won't judge you.

The easiest to pick up and play are Sol/Ky if you're into motion characters or May/Leo if you like charge characters.

I'm a Ky main. I enjoy the taste of my own semen and dream of Ky's.
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>>385579518
hmm blazblue has those same things you said GG has. Pressure in blazblue can go on for ages because the defense mechanics in bb are bad.
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>>385579698
Oops, yeah you're right, had a brain fart.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx8cH95Wegw
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>>385579843
Well I suppose pressure is something all fighting games has. But my point, from my experience, was that you get into pressure situations a lot faster in GG than BB. and there are more instances of it happening in GG than BB.
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>getting better with May
>clearly seeing progress
>want to get a pocket pick now
who should I do?
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>>385579843
GG is more oki oriented. GG also gives you more meter so you can maximize all options you have

BB is more focused on ridiculous pressure and capitalizing on Overdrive cancels to end the game as quick as possible. Your reward for being offensive in BB is active flow which in turn not only boosts damage but Burst recovery so you can abuse OD more.
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>>385579698
But Sol never fucked aria?

Did he? O_o
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>>385580092
Whose May struggle with the most? Have a pocket to deal with those characters.
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>>385580168
He did. Aria became pregnant with Dizzy. Because Aria was turned into a gear later on, Dizzy followed suit
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>>385580168
All the time.

It drove Asuka mad.
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>>385580303
>>385580286
Well shit. I just assumed that they didnt cause you know, slowly dying and shit.

I'm a fucking idiot then.
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>>385580220
I actually don't know, i've never had a matchup that i've had a terrible time with
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>>385580092
maybe Venom if you have a thing for charge characters
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I remade the PSN lobby so that it is public now
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>>385580598
hell no I hate charging, I deal with it for May because her charges are super easy
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>>385579086
So I assume chipp is japanese american since he can use Ki rather than actually full gajin?
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>>385580168
We know she's the biological offspring of Justice, but we don't have proof she is Sol's kid beyond everyone knowing he is Aria's Lover. Whether she is the biological daughter of them, or biologically created gear is still left unanswered but considering this is a thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx8cH95Wegw it's basically all but confirmed she is in fact the daughter of Sol and Aria.
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Basic tips for Ky in general and air strings? I always mess up missions and combos about air stuff because air time pressures me more than while grounded.
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>>385580878
Several characters aren't of Japanese origins and cannuse ki. Kum and Jam for example. It's just that the japs seem to have more of an affinity for Ki than others or perhaps it's more of an eastern thing.
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>>385581504
2hs jc j.k j.s jc j.k j.s j.hs 623hs

there's your go to air string to practice.
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>>385581504
Just keep practising.
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>>385580776
Dorgot to mention the name is NA MidWest
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fuck off to /vg/ you retarded goober. you spam the same image multiple times a day every day
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>>385580878
Hes not. Japanese are super special unique in GG and have weird specific traits to them that make them incredibly powerful or makes them age extremely slowly. Chipp claims to be one but its only out of respect for his dead master. He isn't Japanese at all. Ki isn't something exclusive to Japan, it's just Japanese have some weird special affinity making them incredibly scary to Justice to want to genocide them.
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What are some uses for Leo's Blitzschlag (bt.214h)? I always forget about that move and wondering if I should be using it.
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>>385581694
>Starting with j.K
There goes all your damage
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any west coast lobbies
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>>385581975
Isn't it revealed that wasn't the reason of justice's attack on the nip. Apparently, back when Asuka has some control over justice, he force justice to nuke the Nip because the universal will shows up there and starts turning nip to gear nukes like in Rev.
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>>385582060
hes a beginner and needs to able to hit the whole thing. j.k j.s is way more lenient. When he isn't asking for advice on basic air string combos, then he can go for big boy damage.
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>>385582149
There's a midwest lobby up, public on PS4
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Which character plays the closest to Zappa right now?
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2 more days.
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>>385582874
Faust
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>>385577841
The rooms closed for the night. Thanks to all who came. Also special thanks from the May I got some great mirror matches from, the really good Baiken player, and the Johnny/Slayer player.

Sorry that I was a bit off my game tonight. But I had a lot of fun.
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>>385582881
For wat
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>that May win quote against Jack-O'
Damn, that's depressing
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>mfw consistently dropping the Zwei input when doing Johnny's j.DD or j.DSDD in the corner
>but can input it correctly every time when doing j.DSSD

Am I retarded?
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>>385583120
She's got a couple bad ones, worst against Baiken.
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>>385583224
Are you practicing it at level 3? It's easier the higher level you are by a lot.
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>>385580878
>>385581975
Pretty much this. Chipp can't actually use Ki because he doesn't have eastern blood. The only exception of a westerner being able to use it has been Kliff. Ki in GG is really just a natural way of using magic without the Backyard. That's why Justice attacked Japan the second she materialized from Aria's consciousness making contact with the Backyard. While the Japanese aren't the only people able to use Ki, they tend to have the strongest connection with it, even though most Japanese never reach their full potential. Simply because the possibility existed that humans could fight back without magic (which is really just life hacks made from utilizing extradimensional "radio waves" from the Backyard as it "leaks" into our dimension) is why literally the first thing Justice did was vaporize Japan.

Chipp is using Ninjutsu techniques with magic. Hence why you see summoning circles and five pointed stars when he uses certain attacks. May on the other hand isn't aware she's using Ki for her strength and is a special case of a Ki user as is. The Dolphins and sea creatures she calls is actually summoning magic that she uses to quickly "borrow" a dolphin for an attack to then return them to the ocean instantly.
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>>385583439
I can do the mist cancelling, but the 623K input mindfucks me for some reason.
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I will never be able to grab in this game
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>>385583610
It's alright man, I'll never learn to stop relying on HS, either
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>>385583120
>when she starts crying midway through the quote
Jesus...
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sorry to one and done you random lobby leo player, but i liked the play, good footsies and patience.
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>>385583484
this shit is neat thanks
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>that fullscreen super
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>>385584276
Anytime, glad I could clarify.
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hmm I'm really thinking of learning Faust. I thought of playing Dizzy but I could pick up Faust and get more results with half the effort.
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SOL IS A NIGGER ¿
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>>385584437
>but I could pick up Faust and get more results with half the effort.
That's the spirit!
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>>385584437
Hope your a rng god then
>>385584507
No he went to a university.
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>>385584437
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So If I get the game for Ps3 I can play with ps4 people?
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>>385584834
Yep
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I am so glad that GG isn't associated with Blazblue and 2D fighters anymore, I mean they all play the same to me now and their stories are god awful, I'm sure GG's sis shit to but at least all the characters seem to have personality to them instead of being a bunch of anime cliches ripped off from various media crammed together.
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>>385584937
I personally like Blazblue though, its so stupid it loops back to being ok. Im hyped for Jubei too. That said I prefer GG
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>>385584437
I don't think Faust is as easy as you think he is, and don't think Dizzy as as hard as you think she is.
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Why did they make Baiken so fat? Her thighs and tits are like 3 times the size they used to be.
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>>385584937
Guilty Gear is more base on early 90's anime and some of its cliches where as other anime fighters are more modern. The new characters outside a few are more closer to that but, yeah I agree that is part of the reason I prefer GG.
>>385585440
She suppose to look more western said Daisuke.
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I noticed these guys are Potemkin and Baiken, Bedman. I need to see them because I have zero chance of beating a Pot right now.
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>>385585440
Baiken trained to get swole.
And fluffier.
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>>385585440
Is that supposed to be a bad thing
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>>385584437
Faust has much weaker okizeme than Dizzy though, and unlike Dizzy has no reversals except YRC 5D. You won't get stunned in one combo though.
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where's the pc lobby
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>>385574730
>competitive scene = stream tournament finals

you will never get there anyway anon
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>>385570996
Bring her guard cancels back.
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>>385583025
y-you think im a very good baiken ?
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NA PC EAST COAST LOBBY
1 bar connection requirement

steam://joinlobby/520440/109775244289330283/76561198009035872

im decent at the game but i'll learn new characters if you're new
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>>385573037
He's right in that it did have more and more generic designs at the series went on. There were plenty of standouts like Bang, Taokaka, Arakune, and Carl, but then the newer characters like Naoto, Es, Celica, and Mai aren't anywhere near as distinctive or eye-catching.
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>>385586731
Your offense was on point. Even if I was on top of my game tonight, It'd be something to watch out for.

I might get complacent from teaching new players all the time, but it also helps me see when someone is doing well and improving. It was especially noticeable when you were able to hold your own against that Johnny player.

You're definitely on the right track. Keep at it and good luck, anon.
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>>385587193
fuck my link didnt work properly, id is bryt
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>>385587234
that's not how arms work
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I recently got into GG and have been experimenting with all the characters to see who clicks. Is Sin really as good as he seems, he's like the only guy I can no-loss the campaign with so far but I never see anybody talk about him..
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Gotta jump off Bedman
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>>385587796
Later
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>>385587920
Roommates are watching Netflix, the lag was getting really bad. My match last against Potemkin was a slideshow.
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>>385587193
I'm west coast, but if there is delay I'll promptly get out.
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>>385587765
Sin is one of the best characters in the game. His neutral is crazy good.
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>>385587765
Sin is really good at pretty much every skill level
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>>385587765
Sin is amazing. He used to be broken but theyI nerfed him. Still good though. Needs a bit of micromanagement with the calorie meter but as long as youre not being chain crazy you'll be fine.
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>>385588386
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>>385588490
every time i get an air counter hit as may i nut a little
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>>385588490
Give me one good reason to dragon install
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>>385589129
RADIIIOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>385589129
RIDE THE FIRE
BORN TO AN ERRANT LIGHT
GUNS AND STEEL THAT'S WHAT I AM
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>>385589129
the music duh
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>tfw getting the hang of Ky but find him incredibly boring

I'm just going to switch to Jam and get my ass kicked for 5 months until I learn, wish me luck.
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>>385589064
sorry didnt mean for this to be a reply
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I disbanded the PSN NA MidWest lobby, I needed to sleep. I also closed it on accident. I thought I selected "announce disbanding"
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>Ky vs Sol Match
>Dragon install
>LET IT OUUUT
>Sol's winning
>Ky's hair falls down
>Holy Orders starts playing.
Find me a better scenario possible.
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>>385589615
Those poor random midwesterners
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Yo, can someone explain Jam's airdash DP thing to me?
Its supposed to make her not float up so she can land and combo out of it, but I have no idea how to make it happen.
I thought it was just 623K while airdashing or something, but obviously I'm doing something wrong.
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Who should I play if I liked Ragna, Noel and Kagura in BB?
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>>385590056
well first off you need to have the DP card stocked so that's part of the problem
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>>385590056
You just need to do it faster.
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>>385589434
It's fine.

If you're near the corner you can j.D Counterhit into RADIOOOO!
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>>385590094
Sol or Leo?
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>>385590094
Zato is your man
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>>385590117
Yeah, that's why the combo stage thing isn't triggering, but that shouldn't effect whether it does the airdash thing or not

>>385590118
Fuck, I was afraid that was it. Carpal tunnel here I come I guess.
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>>385590221
dragon install makes me nut as well, don't worry
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>>385590094
Venom or Bedman.
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>>385588490
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>>385590497
It should be easy from a simple airdash. Now IAD dp is another story...
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>>385590056
Try IAD. It has less motion than jump and air dash. IAD is 96 btw, instead of 866.
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>>385590094
Leo or May.
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How do I into reversale as potemking? Backdashing, 6D and j.D are all highly situational.
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>my shitty venom vs. a competent sin
oh wow this is awful
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>>385590942
Oh god I think I have brain damage, let me try again: What are my reversal options as Potemkin?
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>>385590985
Set, set, mad struggle
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>>385590835
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>>385590985
Just be glad he can't PRC Food anymore.
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>>385591078
how the do i set when lmao beak driver and elk hunt
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tfw wanna play but haven't played since vanilla Xrd and don't wanna get blown up
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1X_-4mOWBQ
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They need to add crossplay with PC
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Who else here plays best guy
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>>385591280
50% of players are always getting blown up, anon. You gotta bite the bullet.
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>>385591434
alright... is that midwest lobby still up? I'm on PS4.
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>those Megumi Han secret voice lines
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>>385591084
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>>385591536
It got shut down, and most people seem have to stopped for the night on PS4. Hit the lab and combo trials to refresh, and check for a thread tomorrow night.
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>>385570170
Me (why are you up so late?).
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>>385591316
>not even guard cancel Azami
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>>385591639
well durn. I'll probably just keep drinking Mickey's and wait til the next time. I've done enough combo practice for the day... I'll just get bad habits if I keep it up much more. won't get real practice without playing other people
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>>385591335
They said Sony won't let them for some reason.
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what's the best song and why is it one dawn?
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>>385591607
I can really see the difference between Xrd and X2 Sol now that I look.
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>>385591864
The nostalgia fag in me says Still in the Dark.
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>>385591864
RESSON 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O3MSiUKa3k
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>>385591914
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>>385583046
Until I get Rev 2 and possibly the CF Limited edition
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>>385591864
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9Gc6rreQSY
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>>385591864
Juno
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>>385591864
Suck a Sage is forever a best GG track.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJcXNDk-5F8
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>>385591864
Steel Lily
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Posting the indisputable bet GG track.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh1onX6fBYQ
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>>385591990
this. that video that it played during in #Reload as godlike. just wish it used real drums
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can the game be pirated?
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Any Europoors just woke up and wanna play a couple matches?
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>>385591864
the real answer is Holy Orders II and the only reason you haven't said so is because you've already listened to it so much already
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>>385591864
diva
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>>385580963
>Johnny's reaction
Best guy
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When?
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>>385591864
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNgTC1uAy0c
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>>385593618
I think that's more paradigm being pants on head retarded than sin being a genius.
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>>385591864
Big Blast Sonic
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>>385591264
TK Mad Struggle to 2D. Also 2D is your best friend vs Beak Driver. Amazing low profile property
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ggs jake, may vs venom is turning into one of my favorite matchups
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>>385592790
Me, go ahead and make the lobby
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>>385593837
Forgot to mention PC, I'll throw a lobby up anyway.
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>>385593803
I can see how you would like it. I'm not a big fan. Its almost impossible to AA her or even zone her at all.
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>>385593906

>Tfw Ps4

H-have fun...
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>>385593998
blacksnake manages to anti air me consistently
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>>385594005
>tfw got ps4 and built budget g4560 + 1050ti pc just to play Xrd on both platforms
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>>385593748
>Sol
>The Cooler Sol (with more belts)
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>>385594005
I wish my 6 Year old stick worked on PS4.
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>>385594168
Just upgrade the PCB already.
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>>385594136
>>385594025
hate when i do this
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>>385594084
Whos blacksnake?
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>>385594414
arguably the best venom in the us, i've played him online from time to time, and he bodies me free.
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>>385594414
One of the best Venom players in NA. OG GG player
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>>385593731
Paradigm is the smartest and wisest Gear of them all.
I really hope if he is ever playable they keep his concept play style of fighting alongside his tribe.
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>>385567903
where da PC Lobbies at?
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>>385594576
>>385594572
Oh. Okay. I really don't pay attention at all to any US players.
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>>385572104

Guilty Gear is ASW's baby, blazblue doesn't get as much love even tho it gets plenty of it. Plus Blaz is kinda over for now if you don't count cross tag. Some say blazblue isn't too balanced either.

Go guilty.
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>>385567903
recommend me a fucking Fightstick then....
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>Be Just or Be Dead
With song titles like this, how can any other game even compete?
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>>385594263
I aint shillin out 200 bucks for an Obsidian, I don't have that paper.
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>>385595273
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTt1vk9nM9c
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>>385595282
bitch, best PCB is like 80 bucks at much

Go for Brook Fighting Board
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>>385595282
Brook is like 100$
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>>385595251
Qanba DRONG
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>>385595597
>Qanba DRONG

You mean drone?
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>>385595251
Here's what I did and if you're on PC this is one of the cheapest options. Get a QanbaQ1 and replace the stock joystick with a sanwa jlf joystick. If you buy those from focusattack that's ~80-90$. If you're on ps4 and you get the brook converter that's another 35$.
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>>385593618
Why didn't Bedman just use Absolute World to make it so he and his sister didn't have death aneurysms when they were awake
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>>385595690
>QanbaQ1
Nigga you just payed 195 usd, for 4.99 more you can already buy a Qanba Obsidian or Razer Panthera...
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>>385595251
Get a hitbox. It's better for an airdasher.
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>>385595850
The absolute world was a lie.
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>>385595904
But he literally used it against Ariels
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>>385595901
how do you even fucking play on that shit??
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>>385595380
>PCB
Wow I thought I was on /rlg/ for a second
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>>385595956
>direction buttons instead of a stick
Wow, it's so difficult to understand, right?
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>>385595901
Has anyone won an evo tournament with one of those?
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>>385596048
can you show me a competent GG player using one of them?
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>>385596093
the only person i can think off of the top of my head is nerdjosh and he's only starting to learn hitbox because he fucked up his hand or something
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>>385595893
I misspoke about the Q1, but the Qanba carbon is basically the same model as the Q1 and the price is right. With the brook converter it's 117$ total.
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>>385570996
Maybe her most important tools needing 180 to pull off.
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>>385596093
Most GG players are vets who already spend too much time on stick/pad to switch. Japs are stick players by default because of strong arcade influence. But there's literally no point to not try hitbox or keyboard now, it's great for fast and precise inputs required by games like Xrd. Doing dashes is just a dream on hitbox. It's also more convenient than stick because it doesn't require good case, you can use literally anything and play in any pose you like, even lying on your bed.
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>>385567903
give me something GG related to draw

Lewds are ok
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>>385597187
Baiken with Ram/Elphelt's outfit.
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>>385597187
Sol as It's Time mugen
last guy didnt deliver
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>>385597305
But anon that's Ram not Baiken
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>>385596952
>4 Cardinal Directions
>3 Buttons

Is Up or Down missing?
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>>385597453
There are four blue buttons.
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I found a Hori Real arcade pro v (I think falcon) at a pawnshop today for 70 burgers but it was xbox only so I passed on it. I didn't realize cross-console adapters exist. should I go back, pick it up and get an adapter?
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>>385597265
care to explain this meme?
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>>385597187
I-no in either Ram or Dizzy's costumes
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>>385597187
Any GG character(s) of your choice in a lovely wedding dress.
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>>385597506
I thought the big one was start. Do you only have 6 Buttons for actualy inputs then?
I mean, I only use the right most buttons on my stick for IK Mode and Taunt so it wouldn't be a big loss, just wondering.
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>>385597545
just buy a brook fighting pcb and you are done
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>>385597187
Baiken in Jam's outfit.
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>>385597551
Whenever a thread about yaoi is made the OP pic is always a fabulous looking Mugen from Samurai Champloo giving an aside glance accompanied by ITS TIME from the OP's post.
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>>385597551
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>>385597187
Baiken in Potemkins Outfit
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>>385597187
Baiken with no outfit at all
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>>385597545
The brook super converters are 35$ from what I can see, so i think it's worth the investment. getting the brook fighting pcb is also an option.
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>>385597187
Baiken with Baiken's outfit
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>>385597187
Anything involving May's armpits.
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>>385586731
I really love this picture. I see it practically every thread and I smile whenever I see it.

Just something about this situation. Strong, angry woman being flustered and not knowing what to do when someone shows her affection. It makes my digeridoo stiff and my heart ache.
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>>385597672
I know nothing about modding arcade sticks, I have never owned one before. Is it easy to mod?
>>385597794
Is there any disadvangtage of this, such as input delay or something?
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>>385597187
Baiken in the outfit worn by Sean Connery in the 1974 film Zardoz
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>>385597649
Start/select buttons are usually on the side. Also
>using dedicated button for IK or RC
Come on.
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How do I git gud as Baiken?
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>>385597935
throw floors at people constantly
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>>385597879
>using dedicated button for IK or RC
What's the issue here? There's nothing else to bind the buttons to and why would I not use them if I have them?
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>>385597935
TATAMI GAESHI
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>>385597852
I own the PS3 to PS4 converter of the same brand and there's pretty much no noticeable delay. Those converters are also tourney legal because of that. The only slight disadvantage I'd see is remembering to check for firmware updates.
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>>385597980
>What's the issue here?
It's literally pointless. You can just tap three/four butons for the same result and you don't need to move your finger for a useless button.
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>>385597935
Baiken isn't hard execution wise but she requires you to be able to make very hard reads. Very unforgiving character to play. You become good by just grinding matching and getting familiar to every situation and how to react accordingly.
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>>385597935
2H the god. If its blocked at the tip, its safe, if its blocked near, cancel to Tatami Gaeshi.

Learn to IAD Tatami (236966+K). Not only is it a way to move you across the stage safely, its a good meaty as well.
Keep using air tatami to cover your space. If they become careless and get hit by tatami, you get a free j.S>j.d corner carry for your troubles.

As much as most Baiken newbies hate it, TK Yozansen is needed down the line for instant overhead. Practice it.

Remember that command dash has super armor so learn to use that as another option to get in. Sometimes its not always the right move to cancel it to a followup; sometimes its best to just use it to get point block and grab them.
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>>385597187
millia's ass and thighs please
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>>385598028
Or I could just press one button and slightly move my hand for the thing you only do every 20 or so games when the heavens align and the useless feature.

The point of macro buttons is that you don't need them.
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>>385574269
>Reminder generals belong on /vg/
So you better spam it to the console-tan threads too, as well as tthe /v/ server threads and the /v/ tournies.

Also, people on /vg/ almost never actually play together. Just circlejerk over Discord.
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>>385597935
Learn to punish people teching wrong in the corner after dustloops with the grappling hook. You get a reset that way.
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>>385598108
>tfw the only characters you play being Slayer and Baiken almost always require insanely risky or hard reads to play at a high level with just about the entire cast.
I miss Order Sol
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>>385598203
>Learn to IAD Tatami (236966+K
Is doing 966236+k a legit way to do it too? Or is the other way more reliable?
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>>385570996
Her meter gain feels slow as fuck and she's very reliant on it.
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>>385598020
I'm looking and I see no xbox360/one to PS3, do ps4 converters work for ps3 too, or am I out of luck for xbox to ps3 converters?
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>>385598475
I miss charge cancels.
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>>385598475
Order Sol created so many shitters even in Japan that it's unfuckingbelievable. I unironically want all of you to just fuck off to some other game and never come back.
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When do you think Robo Ky and Ariels will be announced? This year's Arc Revo?
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>>385598748
It won't unfortunately. All the other alternative converters usually have a pretty bad input delay too so you're most likely out of luck on this one.
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So what about Overture? Is it worth playing?
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>>385599179
fuuuuuuuuuck. Is PCB modding hard for someone who has no experience with wiring?
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>>385599149
Fuck that meme character. Best character when?
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>>385598532
They actually cover different ranges.
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>>385598532
The thing about 966236 is that you do get your IAD but sometimes you dont get your Tatami. Baiken shouts the attack but the landing will cancel the tatami mat. 966 is ok if youre consistent with it, else just use 236966 because you get your Tatami for sure.
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>>385599329
what if roboky is actually Paracelsus from that one ending
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>>385599036
What happened in japan?

>>385599149
evo japan's grand finals.
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>>385599149
Either Toushinsai or Evo japan. I would think Toushinsai is the venue for it since Evo Japan is still far away
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>Can't unlock "Meet again" in Xrd as BGM
Japan pls
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>>385599226
It kinda is, especially since you have to know where each wire goes on the psb and you'd need soldering knowledge. If you still want to try the pcb, you can look at link related and see if you can find tutorial videos on using it since it doesn't look like it needs soldering. https://www.focusattack.com/brook-universal-fighting-board-with-headers/
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>>385599646
Thanks for all the help, anon.
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>>385599908
no prob. good luck.
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>>385599329
Yeah, I'm really missing Zappa as well, thank god shit characters like A.B.A and Anji will never get back tho.
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>>385599487
They loved how easy Order Sol was. Fuck them and anyone who likes that traschan character.
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>>385600114
>Anji will never get back
Someone didn't play Bacon arcade mode
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>>385577867
>paying for multiplayer
not even poking fun at you, it's just wrong
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>>385600260
But he's fun.
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>>385600114
>likes best boy but hates best girl
Xrd has a severe lack of creepy and horror characters. I want both of them back.
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>>385600512
Please no. I don't care how he plays or his systems.

Sword: Standard
Giant Scalpel: Nice
Guitar: Fucking Rad
Dual Wielding Fans: Unforgivable
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>>385600723
But they're not any ordinary fans they're one of the legendary weapons that Sol made.
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>need to input specific directions in basic ps4 controller to execute certain moves
>fail half the time
I know it's a matter of practice but how easier would it be to do this with a fighting stick or hori controller?
any suggestions for a new controller?
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>Baikens System voice at character picks
>my face when
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breh
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>>385601091
are you using the Dpad or the analog
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>>385601071
No wonder he kept the coolest one to himself, I wouldn't want people to know about my secret anti-gear fans.
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>>385601091
Pad player here. Literally nothing wrong with DS4. You can try Hori FC4, but the rotating dpad is awkward, and while the dpad feels ok, the thing only lasted 2 years before it broke. DS4's dpad might not feel as good but its the most durable.
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>>385601194
I hope nothing bad happens to her.
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>>385601270
The coolest ones so far we know barely less than half of them.
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>>385601519
If it's a bunch of bald fat sweaty guys trying to rape her, it'll be completely out of character if she didn't bite off at least one of their dicks from trying. So you wouldn't even have to be upset and leave it as bad fanfic
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>>385592727
Sure, but I don't think you can play online unless there is some workaround for just pirates so they can play together. I would actually advice you anyone to pirate it and try the game out if they are interested. You'll probably find out if it's a game you'd be willing to pay money for pretty quickly if you're on the fence.
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>>385601196
Dpad
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>>385594025
Old Sol looked so much better. Xrd really fucked up his proportions.
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>>385594025
Talk about top heavy.
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>>385594025
Old sol > xrd sol
Xrd ky > old ky
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>>385602296
This
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>>385602296
Thunderseal > The other sword
New Fireseal > Old fireseal
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>>385602861
New swords have more edgy (and arguably better) names though. Junkyard Dog MKII and Magnolia Eclair
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>>385602861
It's okay I'm sure Ky miss his thunderseal too. Dizzy's arcade story is basically Ky being sad that his thunderseal is still short as it didn't fully recover yet and Dizzy convinces him that size doesn't matter
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>tfw finally start getting to know Answer's game
Lowkey best new character in the series. Guy's fun as fuck.
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>>385602054
It's not just his proportions.

Old Sol was a scientist pretending to be a vagabond to keep his identity a secret from That Man and the government. His goal was to take out the gears at all costs.

XRD Sol is le ebin "I won't save the world unless you pay me 300k dolaridoos upfront" bounty hunter
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>>385603115
I'm sure Sol was merely pretending to get some extra cash. He was going to save the world anyway.

You try living as a hobo for hundred of years. You'll jump at the chance of cash everytime you can as well
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>tfw finding out you can TK Venom's Mad Struggle
>tfw finding out you can do it right after c.S because it's a jump cancellable move
>tfw in the corner I can teleport to K ball and quickly hit someone with j.K

Is there any use for these? It's still pretty cool that he has some neat overheads even if they are kinda janky.
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>>385603078
>his thunderseal is still short as it didn't fully recover yet and Dizzy convinces him that size doesn't matter
What did Daisuke mean by this?
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>>385603115
I think Xrd did a nice flip on Sol and Ky's roles. XX Sol and Ky were archetypes played straight. Ky was a boyscout who used to see the world in black and white morality while Sol taught him that the world doesn't work that way. Xrd Sol was slowly getting disillusioned and want to carry the burden of everything he's done by himself; gets easily pissed off than before and wants to shake away the people who care for him because he doesn't want them getting involved with the things he's done. Ky doesn't want to have any of it and convinces him that he has his comrades with him..
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>>385603331
First two yes and it's fucking great, last one is situational but you can get away with it if they're hesitating
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>>385603331
TK Mad Struggle is really one of Venom's best tools. if they fail to block it, you get a free knockdown; if you do it as close to the ground as possible and if whiffs, you get an instant 2D. use this to your advantage making your opponents think your going for the overhead when really you just ant Mad Struggle to whiff so you can 2D.

Also as Venom, be sure to atleast have 1 ball out, that's your get out of jail card.
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>>385602998
Its just pretty generic to look at like its some normal soldier sword would use not fitting for the first king.
>>385603078
Can wait for it to become full power again. Hopefully that's not the first time he has to heard that.
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>>385603507
>>385603552
Thanks guys. Venom is one cool motherfucker.
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>>385603331
tk mad struggle S is a pretty fast overhead that leads to a full combo on hit. You can follow it up with c.S(2)>QV S>5P>ball hit>standard venom combo with IAD j.SHD
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>>385604059
Shit meant that is
>>385603424
XX Ky definitively wouldn't even consider the pope to be evil.
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>>385604185
Oh ok. I was thinking going for the 2K > 2H > H Double Morbid to corner carry from mid screen.
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>Still struggling to get that IAD Tatami Gaeshi reliably out

YAMETTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>385604740
236966+K? Try 966236+K if you're having trouble just be sure to input the 236 earlier than you would think else it wont come out.
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>>385604740

IAD Tatami is a fucking meme, it has such a specific effective range and even then it gets beat by anti-airs half the time

Baiken isn't worth the effort
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>>385599329
I really do bope they add ABA
I probably won't even play her, but the game is really missing that edgy satanic metal rep, and her design is perfect for it
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>>385567903
What characters are actually good for beginner at fighting games aside Sol and Ky?
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>>385605721
Leo
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>>385605721
May
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>>385605761

True if you don't care about actually getting good at the game

>>385605778

False
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>>385605721
Elphelt, Sin, Leo, Raven (top tier and braindead), Faust, May
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>>385605793
>false

how? May is pretty simplistic
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>>385604294
I believe Venom's standard j.SHD air combo will get you a lot more corner carry. Especially if you can get the second dash jump in the combo like c.S(2)>QVS>5P>ball hit>IAD j.SHD>dash jump>j.SHD>6H>oki

Sorry for the shitty webm, but it should give you an idea of what I meant. You can obviously add ball oki at the end. The second dash jump doesn't work on all characters and can be pretty tricky to land, but it does give you extra corner carry.

I would say that the "c.S(2)>QVS>5P>ball hit" part is pretty good to know. But keep in mind that it only works on crouchers.
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I have a question for people who changed from pad to stick.
Did it help with your accuracy? This is currently the biggest problem I'm facing when playing on a pad. This mostly comes into play when I'm trying to do a double qcf. Most of the time it comes out as 2363236 instead of 236236. This means, in my experience, the game reads this as just 236. Sometimes the double qcf input comes out as 2369236, which makes me jump and look like a retard.
Another problem I have with accuracy is when I try to slide my finger from cr. block to st. block, sometimes it still reads it as cr. block.
I know a stick doesn't instantly make your problems go away and all that, but I'd like to hear from people who changed from pad to stick.
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>>385606002
Also I'm using a ds4 if that makes any difference.
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>>385606002
my movement didn't change much compared to D-pad but my buttons improved

on D-pad I would 63236 to DP but I can reliably 623 on stick
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>>385606002
What. double qcf works fine for me even if you go 2363236.
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>>385606130
I'm using Elph so I have no dp motions, but when I try to mess with Ky I sometimes have the same problem.
>>385606160
I don't know if it's the fact that Elph's overdrive is 236236k, while her roll into shotgun stance is 236k. It's not uncommon when I try to OD, I get the 236k instead.
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>>385605721
This is somewhat accurate.
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>>385606589
How about Answer and Baiken?
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>>385606713
Difficult and regular respectively
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>>385606589
Jack-O basic?
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>>385606906
She has the lowest execution in the game. Her mechanic has a learning curve but not much past that.
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>>385606713
>>385606768
Baiken is Regular and Answer is Difficult. The site hasn't updated with the Rev2 characters yet.

>>385606906
Jack-O is very easy to play. The only remotely difficult part about her is keeping the minions alive by not getting hit. However, many newer players end up playing Jack-O because she has some pretty strong normals to begin with and a DP with the easiest input ever made, crouching Dust.

Here's my version of the list.
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>>385606589
>>385607363
I thought Sol was just a slightly more complex Leo, should he still be in regular?
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>>385607449
Sol stops being unga as soon as your opponent starts blocking.
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>>385607449
Sol is deceptive, he's marketed and treated as the "ryu" of GG but in reality he has a bunch of nuances that make him harder to play
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>>385606589
>>385607363
Your lists are almost the exact same with the only difference being that May and Sin are switched.

What makes Venom difficult? Requirement of IAD on his combos or ball trajectory?

>>385607449
Sol has a lot of stupid nuances to him that make you have to make work. Doesn't have the crossup poential or the consistent lockdown that Leo has without risking getting hit. Not to mention the best damage you get from him mid screen involves meter or a 6P - 5H - IAD.

AND if you learn to IB, everything he would have to give him an advantage on pressure is negated. Dude has to work to open you up.
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>>385607607
Who's Ryu then
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>>385607657
Ky
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>>385607363
Leo and Raven should just be their own category
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>>385607657
Imagine Ryu. But instead of having Denjin be unblockable, it's unblockable and lasts for 5 seconds.

And doesn't take meter.
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>>385607734
>instead of having Denjin be unblockable, it's unblockable

Man I'm going more retarded as the night goes on. Blockable. Ky is actually Ryu but with more pressure than Ryu could ever hope to have.
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>>385607645
I switched a lot of the characters around within the tiers. The only major change was swapping May and Sin because Sin is braindead while May requires you to learn the character a little.

Aside from Venom's low defense, the obvious ball setups, required IAD combos for corner carry, and having some ability to zone, he is fucked on knockdown. He has no reversal of any kind, his normals are very slow(which leaves him very susceptible to counter hits), and he only has 2 moves that guarantee a knockdown on an opponent. Another major part about Venom is his versatility. A good venom is ready to engage at any range and has an overdrive that let's him do a lot of dirty things.
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>>385608024
Minor question but isn't Burst Dark Angel an actual reversal now?
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>>385604939
While 966236+K works much better I still don't have the muscle memory to get it work 100% of the time. For a dumb reason my back IAD works much better than my front IAD.
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>>385608192
I wouldn't use it
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what are my defensive options as elphelt?
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>>385608404
Stick or Pad? Its easier to do IAD in P2 side.
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>>385608554
Pad
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>execution gets 10x worse when on the right side of the screen

I hate this feel
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>>385608554
Is it because the left side of the thumb is more trained than the right side? Left side does the brunt of movemens while the right side seems to do the finishing parts which are short.
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>>385608480
Beside the universal mechanics?

6P has invincibility. Though it's pretty gimmicky

Wake up Judge Better Half

Air dash away D

Her main weakness is she doesn't have much. Her not having a proper anti air is a meme.
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>>385608192
It is, but an extremely costly and not very effective one because of its extremely slow startup. On defense Venom is better off using the meter for other defensive options like FD, blitz or dead angle while saving hist burst. I think 310 was one of the players asked about the viability of burst dark angel and he said someone along the lines of what I said above. Despite that you will still sometimes see burst dark angel used by strong Venom players. As long as it's used extremely sparingly I think it has some uses since almost no one will see it coming. But I'm just a shitter, so what do I know.
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>>385608816
She has tons of situational anti airs, that's all. And good luck catching someone from a 45 degree angle with anything than a preemptive 6H or a 5P, but that one is super specific.
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*gets you in the corner*
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>>385608816
Don't reccomend wake up cake.

That's a terrible idea
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>>385608606
Pad too, IAD P2 side is also easier for me.
>>385608765
Its because when you go 966 on pad, the large part of your thumb covering the dpad supports the P2 side so it always comes out consistently, where as when you do 966 P1 side, you have to slightly maneuver your thumb to do 66 after pressing 9 to cover the 6
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>>385608816
>>385609216
c.S used to catch everyone all the time. Every day. But they changed it so now people complain that she doesn't have anti-airs.
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>>385609648

>>385608480
here, yeah I was thinking that too. risk is really high on DPs as it is, but an overdrive DP as a reversal? Fuck that
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>>385609648
>>385609717
I was listing options. Didn't say they were good. 6P is pretty shitty on defense but it works sometimes
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>>385597187

Ramlethal holding a Dangerous Zombie Gashat w/ her evil smile.
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>>385609664
I feel like this wouldn't be as annoying on a stick as it would be on a pad.
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>>385609664
Pad here. I have an easier time on P1 side but I can do either. Only issue I have is doing IADs out of moves.
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>>385610295
On stick its actually the reverse. P1 IAD is easy because pushing the stick to 9 then 66 feels more natural, where as IAD p2 side, you have to stress your wrist to pull the stick when doing the 66, compared to P1 where you just push your hand to do it.
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Serious question. How do I want to play this game? I think the answer is to stop playing and wait for DBFZ which my irl friends are actually interested in getting. Is there another answer?
Training in this game is less fun than actual work like programming or cooking. There's simply more reward in training real skills than virtual skills. I'm training to one day be able to play the game like other games, where you get play, get beat and make adjustments in a cycle of trial and error. That doesn't seem to be possible here unless your skill is already above some minimum threshold where you're not getting double perfected like you're not even holding the controller.
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>>385610481
Yeah IADing out of jump cancellable moves require a certain rhythm to it.
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If I play Amane, who would I like in this game.
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>>385610685
You don't fit this games demographic. This is a game that doesn't try and compensate for casuals like yourself who want instant gratification. This game is for the niche that wants a deep experience with a high learning curve. It's not Overwatch where you can jump in and out
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>>385610914
>High pressure
>Chip damage
Venom

If you want the high mobility options, there's Dizzy, where you harass the opponent with fish while you cross them up for days.

>>385610685
You may opt to play that new fighting game on open beta right now, Fantasy Strike. its a very simple fighting game with low execution so you can get comfortable with the genre. GG and fighting games are hard man, thats just the reality of it. You can go ahead and try DBFZ though, but fighting games in general require a mindset of improving and working hard so it might not be for you.
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>>385609627
*keeps you there*
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>>385611027
>>385611134
Improving is good. I'd just rather improve by playing the game instead of training, because at that point I'd rather be doing real life training instead of virtual training.
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>>385611267
That's just you, bud. I personally like having to go into training mode and come up with set ups and combos. This "virtual" training is important for a lot of us who go to locals/ tournaments and play against real people for real money and share real experiences based on the "virtual" training we do.
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>>385610685
Nope. Part of the fun of fighting games is improving and getting better which is why the genre is niche. It's an insanely rewarding experience that only fighting games can truly allow, but it requires effort on the part of the player which a lot of players aren't willing to put out and aren't willing to accept that their losses are their fault. Hence why team games like Mobas or CS:GO and Overwatch are so popular, they don't require active adaption and even if you're shit you can just relay/blame your teammates instead of on yourself.
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>>385611267
Guilty gear has a great training mode thats like playing the game while you are learning.
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>>385611267
That's true, anon. You may want to jump into the lobbies when people are playing. Some of the people who post in these threads just got the game recently too so expect equal or slightly equal skill level. Guilty gear's one of those games that you need the "correct" types of people to lay with to learn better, and not just any one. If you fight against players who are lower than you, you'll never learn; if you fight players who'll curbstomp you, you'll also wont pick up anything because chances are you won't know what killed you. You need that sweet spot in skill level that can only be gotten from players who are of equal footing. Try joining the /v/ lobbies some time.

As for training mode fatigue; I have one myself; although I can see the appeal of it for lab junkies who develop tech extensively so when you see people enjoying training mode work its just in their character but its not the same for everyone who enjoys this game or genre as a whole.
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>>385611432
Don't you dare compare Overwatch to CS:GO you faggot.
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>>385611394
And I think you would like training in real skills inherently better than training video game skills.

>>385611497
It's a good effort but clearly nowhere close to actually playing the game, or playing any game for that matter. I'm in missions right now and I can't help but think I'd rather play a shmup, or Civilization, or power up the xbox huge and play NGB.

>>385611520
I have yet to find such people. I've yet to find a character that clicks with me anyways.
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>>385611756
Why would I? Among my group of friends your skills in fighting games is just as real as someones guitar skills. It's all social constructs bro.
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>>385611756
You clearly don't enjoy the game dude.
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>>385610914
I also like characters who are a bit weak until they get the chance to unleash hell. Unfortunately, Zappa and A.B.A. were left behind
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>>385611730
They're both FPS's with a shit tier comp scene. Halo 2 was the last good competitive shooter.

Nice RNG spread btw
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So do you guys use stick or pad?
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>>385612475
To be fair I'm not even playing the game, I'm training missions. There is no winner or loser in training. The game part is more fun but I can clearly see it's too far over my head to just dive in and make progress via trial-and-error like every other game.
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>>385613075
Pad. This isn't SF4 where playing on a controller was artificial difficulty.

Most people say you only need a stick for Zato
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>>385613075
I use stick. Been using a stick since I was 13.
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How long did it take you on average to get good at a fighting game? I'm talking here your first fighting game you actually wanted to get good at.

I sank 20h in and feel like a complete scrub without a coherent matchgame.
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>>385613253
>20h

Boy, you're gonna need several hundred to git gud at a fighter.
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>>385613132
>>385613253
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p42p_CCrDRE
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>>385613370
That video is encouraging and discouraging at the same time
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>>385613370
>expect fighting games
>get some Hagrid lookin motherfucker runnin his mouth for a few mins
>all while playing some casual babby shit

Can we make e-celeb garbage insta ban?
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>>385613370
Just got into fighting games myself, 30h in rev 2 now, hearing him say 30 minutes to be shit at a combo with no reward oddly enough made me really want to play more and keep practicing, like the video made me want to get up and go play
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>>385614287
He's a fighting game authority. It's not like he's some random fuck that's shit at fighting games.
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>>385614328
Yeah, that makes it so much more rewarding once you actually get a harder combo down, and once you actually get to pull it off in a match. It's the best.
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>>385613253
It differs from person to person, but you can probably take that time x10 until you get the basic concepts and maybe start worrying about gameplan and what your opponent is doing. It also depends on the game a lot.

Really glad there's been a lot mir Xrd threads lately, too bad I'm never home when lobbies are up.
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>>385614427
>Tekken player

Opinion discarded
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>>385614948
>ATP
>you're actually going to dismiss him as only a tekken player
you probably arent too good at fighting games if you dont know people in the community at the very least, pal
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>>385614948
Nigger I personally don't even play Tekken, but I still wouldn't discard someone's opinions that quickly.
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>>385613253
20h is nothing, game sense will come with time but there's no easy way around execution
when I first started playing SF4 I couldn't perform any motions besides qcf just because I assumed they are too hard and not worth the effort, my mindset changed over time after getting my ass beat for hours online
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>>385615061
>>385615267
I give zero fucks about 3D fighters nor their players. Couldn't name a single one.

It's not that I think Tekken and Soul Calibur are bad or anything, but I don't care for them at all.
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The thing that kills me about Xrd is that I feel like I should be much better at it than I am.

It's got a dedicated launcher button, a mechanic built around frame canceling, a Just Guard mechanic, a double-jump and air dash, I mean the whole thing is very DMC/Bayo esque, and you would think that being very good at those sort of games would kind of translate into GG skills, but it totally doesn't, at all.
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>>385615770
Fighting games are way way way different than a 3d action game. It's also a lot different playing vs other people than AI bots.
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I'm thinking about buying a fight stick, but I don't know what to look for as a beginner. GG is kinda my first serious fighting game.
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>>385616026
They're very very expensive, I wouldn't get one unless you 100% know you're going to be playing fighting games for a long time. Personally I would recommend looking into a hitbox instead as they're easier on the hands and are probably the most optimal for inputs. Check the /fgg/, pretty sure there's a pastbin or something there with relevant info for fight sticks, idk about hit boxes though.
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>>385581981
I didn't know saiyans keptt heir bead whent hey went SSJ3.
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>>385615989
No I know, but it's just funny how all of those mechanics are entirely nonapplicable. Like I would have still expected the combo system to be something like "find opening > Dust > double jump > juggle (good combo knowledge lets you extend juggle further) > RC at the right time for even MORE combo"

It's nothing like that at all. It's just weird to see all of those mechanics there and they don't translate the same way at all.
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>>385615770
One word anon. Practice.

This is not the kind of game you can pick it up and be good at. The game gives you all the tutorials and tools to succeed, but you have to put in the effort.

Is there a character that you are interested in playing?
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>>385616204
It kind of works like that, like finding an opening for dust does give you a dank air combo and RC will extend your combos. The only problem is the "finding an opening" part is much much harder since you're playing vs other people and you also have to incorporate footsies and heavy spacing games rather than just running directly into your target.
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>>385616204
See, the problem here is that you think the roman cancels are just for combos. That's really only true for the red ones and to a lesser extent the yellows. The roman cancels are just as potent when used defensively or to apply pressure. Purple Roman cancels can be used as a "I fucked up, I need a get out of wiff punish" button, but some moves(often the DP's) can't be purple roman cancelled. Have an examples.

>All projectiles benefit from being yellow roman cancelled. This can let you confirm off a hit or to avoid being punished if they read your projectile by air dashing over it
>roman cancels are more than just x-factors and v-triggers. They slow down time for your opponent a little. This can be used to get out of trouble especially if one of you are airborne

Let's use a more complex example
>Let's say I'm using Sol badguy and I have 50% tension while fighting Ky. I try to low profile a projectile with Grand Viper, but Ky yellow roman cancels his projectile and has enough time to block low. I can red roman cancel the blocked Grand Viper before Sol goes airborne and go for a jumping heavy slash to break him open.
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>>385616026
get a Qanba Drone. it's a great cheap stick
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>>385570996
Bring button sealing back.
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>>385614427
I like how Aris actively helps people get into Tekken, though I do dislike his shitty fanbase like most FGC personalities. Guy's ok even if he hates anime fighters and find ways to shit on them.

Similarly I like how Jiyuna is really a great guy to talk to in person. Charismatic too, but I dont like how he tries too hard when he's drunk; like "dude look how drunk I am right"
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>>385617183
100% this
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>>385606589
>>385607363
Didn't give it too much thought, but there goes mine. Baiken would be in medium-hard and Answer in medium, probably.
I personally don't value execution that much since you usually can get away with easier, less optimal combos but not so much so with ignoring character's moves and subsystems. Also, execution is a mechanical skill that can just be practiced, but the game sense and the understanding of positioning and timing isn't.
As a consequence, the biggest differences between yours and mine are Millia and Chipp.
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>>385605721
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Who's good character for beginner?
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>>385613764
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>>385618853
>axl
>honest
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>>385618853
there are so many problems with this
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I really wanted to enjoy this game. The style is so cool and every character feels unique. But it's got to be one of the most boring games I've ever played.

The only fighter where I didn't even feel overwhelmed needing to learn the mechanics. Just bored. Bored when winning. Bored when losing (and mostly losing). Bored during supers. Bored during insta-kills.

Is that why they chocked the game full of so much needless garbage like danger-time and whatever the fuck that S+SH parry type move is? Why not just have a normal parry? Why I have to stop my character from sliding with FD? Can't they just stop like every other fighter?

No wonder the scene for this game is pretty much dead outside japan. The only reason I think it's even attractive to them is because the story has them being super-human/rare specimens as opposed to the reality where their society is crumbling due to low birth-rate and after we nuked the shit out of them all they became good for was porn.
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>>385616192
anon are you ok
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>>385618920
Sol and Ky
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>>385619189
lol
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Quality shitpost above this post. Please do not reply.
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Who's a good character to play if my reaction time is 450 ms? I tried Sin, but everything I do in neutral just gets stuffed because I'm fucking slow.
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>>385620138
potemkin
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>>385613132
Just pick a character and go online. Look for a new players lobby or make one yourself, the settings will let you control the skill level of people joining your room to an extent. There are plenty of people who bought the game and go online just trying to press buttons with their waifu, use them to learn the game. Don't go and drill a bunch of combos, you'll just go online and never get to use them because you spent all your time learning how to work your character and not how to play the game.
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>>385620138
fighting games are mostly about prediction so don't think about it too much
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>>385618774
>says he doesn't value execution
>puts Sol in easy
We've been over this. Sol actually requires skill as he requires some knowledge about how frame traps work. Most low skill Sol players will flatout lose to anyone who knows how to block. He just attracts a lot of new players because he's the main character.

>Also, execution is a mechanical skill that can just be practiced, but the game sense and the understanding of positioning and timing isn't.
That's bullshit and you know it. Of course those can be practiced. You just can't do it in training mode or against AI opponents.

>Puts Chipp and Millia in medium hard
Execution aside, a large factor in why most people consider then so difficult is that their combos are often not one size fits all. They both combos that only work for specific characters.

>Potemkin in medium
Potemkin requires an entirely different skillset than most characters and most people are not even remotely patient enough to play him. He is by no means a medium character.

Your list isn't just shit. It's flatout wrong.
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>>385618853
What does honest even mean?
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>>385620463

99% of the time honest just means "something I can beat 51% of the time so it's fine" and dishonest means "something beats me 51% of the time so nerf it".
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>>385618853
>Johnny
>honest

Fuck Johnny players.
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>>385620565
play my johnny
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>>385618853
>honest and high iq
My character.
>dishonest and low iq
Your character.
Prove me wrong faggots, you know I'm right
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>>385620632
But I don't want to deal with all your safe on block moves.
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>>385620335
>We've been over this. Sol actually requires skill as he requires some knowledge about how frame traps work
And so does Leo.

>>385620335
>You just can't do it in training mode or against AI opponents.
That's what I meant. But I realise I didn't phrase it right.

>>385620335
Yet they are not really that essential, specially for Millia since all comes down to her vortex and other than that she's focused on classical, fundamental spacing.

>>385620335
>Potemkin requires an entirely different skillset than most characters and most people are not even remotely patient enough to play him
Like most grapplers. That doesn't make him complex.
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>>385620463
Just that you have to work for your wins, its an entirely subjective thing
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>>385620335
>Potemkin requires an entirely different skillset than most characters and most people are not even remotely patient enough to play him. He is by no means a medium character.

Potemkin is a medium difficulty character at best. He is not complex nor hard to play. He simply isn't that strong right now. Everything about him is pretty straightforward and his tools are pretty simple to understand, he just isn't that strong so winning means outplaying your opponent. His safe jump pressure is strong and simple and learning anti-backdash OS isn't that hard.
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I would play this game but there's no crossplay, so I have no faith in it staying alive once the new ArcSys games come out.
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>>385620950
>All those reply quotes
Idk how the hell did that happen.
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>>385621091
Have fun not playing anything that isn't SFV then.
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>>385621091

To be honest it's not really worth it at 60. I got it on discount because I thought it was something I could get into but it's just such an obtuse fucking game with mechanics just slipshod stuck on everywhere that I started to lose interest once I figured out how stupidly specific you have to be to do even remotely well in this game.

You're better off buying KoF. It has more chars than SF and it much more straightforward than GG.
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>>385618774
You say you don't value execution, but that's the only thing keeping Johnny from going down three tiers.
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>>385621204
I'm saying this game is gonna die once the newer ArcSys games come within the next year. Not exactly invalid since it's already not too populated.

Fighting game devs need to just make crossplay the norm.
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>>385620463
I guess like things you can't rely on for cheap wins or something, like Leo's blender you can just do and hope they fail to block it without thinking. (obviously against good opponents you'll have to think)

It's mostly just used so bad players can feel superior to someone else without actually putting in any effort themselves. "I play an honest character that's why I lost to your dishonest play!"
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>>385621323
I said I don't value that much, not that I don't value at all. He also has what could be called a second meter and a stock system, so that's that.
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>>385621354
>Fighting game devs need to just make crossplay the norm.
And how do you propose they do that? Why haven't they done it already?
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>>385621354
If they're going to be dead anyway, what would crossplay even do?
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>>385621591
>And how do you propose they do that?
same way other games do? Because they don't want to approach other companies I suppose.
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>>385620950
>and so does Leo
You can literally win matches as Leo by mashing HS and DP on wakeup against people. If you not retarded, you can also disrespect wakeup grab with Brynhildr Stance k because it's throw invincible. Leo teaches you bad habits. Sol does not.

>I didn't phrase it right
Then that's an entirely different point then.

>Millia is focused on fundamental spacing
Please stop. You have no idea what you are talking about. Millia not known for her neutral

>Grapplers aren't complex
Normally, you'd be right, but this game is different. Most grapplers aren't afraid of pressure. Getting knocked down as Potemkin is a nightmare scenario since you have no wakeup options and a big hitbox. His normals, while having some nice range are not by no means fast, so he can be stuffed with faster moves and suddenly he eats a full counter hit combo. He has to rely on hammerfall cancelling to get around since he has no dash or air dashes, so that right there is an entry barrier in itself. Most agree that Potemkin has to work harder than most characters because of all this.
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>>385618774
Potemkin is harder then Kum. Kum has a vortex any experiences player should be able to get used to in a few matches. Potemkins oki is always based off reads and good chase down. Also Potemkin to maximize takes close to if not the most execution in the game.

As a Ky main i agree but i also tinker with Sol Faust Kum Potemkin and i think Sol should be alittle harder as well and Faust medium just because of how hard it is to block/escape at higher levels with pretty much the worst hurtboxes for it and no escape tools.

Sols oki is near nonexistent with little he has and the better people you play the harder it is to win sets with him. May is also too high well Axl should be medium.

People underestimate how hard being a Axl main at competent levels actually is. He has to know MUs better then the average because of how the character works. But then again difficulty to play charts are trash.

Ky is much more honest then Johnny and you have to factor in shit like that where at the higher level its easier to win with Johnny because of all the okizeme/easy approach tools you have compared to everyone knowing how Ky will approach and his fundamentals/decisions/spacing being what will give a chance to work. Where as Johnny fishes all day with cancels and his dash up throw that works even at top jap level.
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>>385620734
i see you runnin
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>>385622202
>Also Potemkin to maximize takes close to if not the most execution in the game.
No he doesn't, his execution is not that demanding at all. 6K loops are the only execution demanding thing he has, and they are not that hard and pretty universal outside a couple of light characters.
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>>385599329
I want to see Paracelsus's beautiful nervous face is 3d.
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order sol when
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>>385618853
>bedman still not in his own tier for IQ
A shame. If you were anything akin to me, perhaps we could have become friends. Then again, you would need an IQ of more than 200 to satisfy the minimum criteria.
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>>385600114
>He doesn't know about the man on the phone.
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>>385622320
>6k loops aren't that hard.
>The loops where outside of FAB even Konsome does 1-2 reps of max and most people do 1 rep at most.

Its funny because its still harder then anything Johnny has and we're going on that "negative edge" Zato meme.

Zato players need to stop pretending hes even half as hard as characters like Carl now and Akatsuki from Uniel. He has a mashable dp well Eddie is out that they universally do to give themselves like 5 chances to land something. He has some of the best AAs especially for damage potential and easiest RC strings to get his dog back in time.

A list on "difficulty" that doesn't take how honest a character approach is into account is worthless. Its based off basic combo execution and nothing else and not how combos and hits are landed and how weak a okizeme can be.
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>>385622212
Hell yea you do.

I ain't pickin a fight with Xrd Johnny
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>>385622854
you'll never get better at the match up unless you fight him. running away won't make things better.
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>>385622924
I get that, but you must admit Johnny is busted at the moment.
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>>385622924

It's better to wait for his adjustments in the next patch if you even feel like buying it. He's obviously too good to even bother playing against at this point.
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>>385597187
ram shark-teeth that all
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>>385621995
>If you not retarded, you can also disrespect wakeup grab with Brynhildr Stance k because it's throw invincible.
Yeah, I can give you that.

>>385621995
>Then that's an entirely different point then.
The point is that you can't get it right based on repetition but you have to understand it.

>>385621995
> Millia not known for her neutral
She may not be good at it, but it's her only choice. Other than physical attacks and a roll she only has a use and pickup projectile and a projectile generally too slow to use in neutral. Weak doesn't mean complex. Which applies to Pot, too.

>>385622202
Haehyun is the mostly because it requires precise timing and her projectile is kind of unorthodox, she could be lower, honestly.
Faust is there because despite of his simplicity he requires adaptability, since you as the Faust player have to deal with the RNG, too.
May has 2 non-linear projectiles that are able to interact with you, and they require time to set up and controlling correctly the spaces between them and you, betwee you and the opponent, and between the opponent and them.
Axl is there basically because his playstile requires prediction, for the most part.
Then again strength isn't related to complexity. "Easy" characters are supposed to be easy to learn, not easy to win with.
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>>385623024
>>385623083
he's def top 3, but not blown out of proportions where it's impossible to beat him. you guys make it sound like there's no point in playing the game since he exists. you guys should be thankful that he's not braindead to play or else everyone would play him at top level.
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>>385623256
Seriously wtf is going on with those quotes.
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So why is Rev2 in Steam DLC but in Playstation Store a separate 50€ game?
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>>385623526
it was released like 5 months apart from revelator on pc
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>>385623274

I'm just thankful there's other fighters to play. I'll come back for Rev 3 or whatever. It's just not worth it.
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>>385623083
>>385623725

You can say you don't feel like playing the game, but balance is pretty good in gg. Even the top tiers are not even close to being these super unbeatable OP bullshit characters.
The thing with the game is just that ANY character played by a halfway competent player will feel like complete bullshit if you don't have matchup knowledge. Once you start knowing about some of the holes and things you can abuse yourself it starts becoming a lot more managable.
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>>385599329
I hope she at least gets a bit part next story mode like Jam did in Rev.
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>>385623725
so you don't actually play the game? you sound like a little bitch who doesn't even play fgs.
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