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Thoughts?

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Thoughts?
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>>385562553
>Thoughts?
Dont buy it?
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>>385562553
Lmao I'm not even buying the game but I'm pretty sure someone will upload their save that has everything unlocked
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Optional content you don't need. Extras if you own things. What do you think it'll lead into microtransactions or something? Give Nintendo some respect they only made badge arcade.
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>>385562553
>not buying all the Amiibo at your local store so everyone else will miss out on the sound test and art gallery
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>>385562697
Not quite how amiibo functionality works. But I can see it being a possibility that the "fusion/hard mode" file can be transferred with a hacked 3DS.
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Doesn't effect anyone with a brain. There will be a 0% completed all amiibo content unlocked save posted on 3dsiso within a week of the games launch.

If you don't have a soft modded 3ds (why the hell wouldn't you?) you can look up nfc writing guides to get free "amiibo" cards to unlock everything as well.
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>>385562740
>optional content

Optional content that's already on the cartridge or digital copy that you paid for. Why and how does a toy factor into this?
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source that fusion mode is difficulty mode and not just difficulty mode with a fusion suit costume

i dont care about a 240p art gallery and midi sound effect library
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>>385562823
yes it does, once they've been scanned it logs to the save file that they were used
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>finally new metroid
>nintendo pulls this shit
>it will affect sales
>nintendo will stop making metroid, thinking we don't care anymore
>we either buy into this bullshit or don't and see our beloved metroid series take the fall for it
We cannot win here
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This is a game made specifically for Metroid fans. These are people who already own the Amiibos, because of their dedication to the series. For them this is basically free content.
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>>385563093
unless it's going to be like Star Fox where you have to scan them every single fucking time but I highly doubt it since it's unlocking something that's more than just a cosmetic change with slight stat differences
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>>385563093
Some games require you to scan the amiibo whenever you want to use the amiibo feature, which is why I said I didn't think the Hard mode would be that way. But the galleries and energy tanks very well could be.
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>>385563131
My plan is to raise a fucking stink but still buy this game but not other games they do the same thing with and hope nintendo decides that this shows that metroid is so popular people bought it despite their bullshit then make more metroid games.

I realize this is all just rationalization but I wanna play a new metroid game dammit.
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I don't think there have been any 3DS games with worthwhile amiibo content yet, but on WiiU you could easily download saves with all amiibo content unlocked and just use those.

It's what I did for MK8, Smash 4, etc.
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>>385563169
I own every metroid game and have played them all countless times (except for the odd ones like pinball or hunters, I didn't play those much)

I love the series but since when has loving a VIDEO GAME series meant purchasing TOYS? Amiibos are just tacky pieces of plastic for children
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>>385562956
I would to know how if the data was stored on the Amiibo instead would have been any way different.
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>>385562553
Time to learn how to pirate Amiibos
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>>385563608
Because then you're buying the content the amiibo provides WITH the amiibo.

The way it is now, when you buy a game you're paying for stuff you literally cannot use without the amiibos.
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>>385563702
It's actually really easy to do. There are guides everywhere to write amiibo data to nfc cards with your smartphone.

You don't even have to waste money on that shit though you can just download saves with all amiibo content unlocked.
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>>385562553
it bad
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Unfortunately it doesn't matter if it's just cosmetic content or not. For 40 bucks and above, every single bit of content even slightly related to this game should be mine, for free. If you're gonna say "you can't have this because we decided you need to pay extra" then I'm just not gonna support this.

So this will officially be three strikes against Nintendo in terms of their screwups around Metroid. I'm done supporting it.
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Why does this picture change everytime someone posts it
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>>385563781
Anon, there is virtually no difference between the two other than where the data is stored. You're still paying for the content regardless. All you're doing is arguing the semantics here. Because it sounds like you're fine with day one DLC that was clearly suppose to been part of the core game but ripped out and sold as individual DLC for other games.
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>>385562553
>Thoughts?

how many times is this shit going to be reposted?
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>>385564097
Until the game is released and people start harping about 'muh ratings' and 'muh sales'. Repeat for each and every game that Nintendo releases.
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>>385562553
Vidya will never be the same
>You buy a toy/dlc to play the game on hard mode
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>>385562553
>Thoughts?
I'll pirate it, if i enjoyed it i'll buy it and then replay it on hard mode
I never played a Metroid game fully before so weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>nickel and dime your path

what did he mean by this
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Or you can just get a amiiqo if you want to get that stuff for free.
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I'm gonna buy everything.
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>>385564028
In one case you pay for the content and receive access to the content in the same go

In the current case, you pay for it and don't receive access to it until you buy an additional toy

Tell me why I should be paying for content I can't use
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>>385564403
Hey, /v/ wanted Nintendo to be more like their competitors, so they did. They tried to be reasonable like with the one time unlocking for SMR but people bitched they should have nickle and dime them instead. So, he did just that.
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>>385562553
Pretty hyped for a Metroid game
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>>385564595
I wanted Nintendo to be like the indie devs, like the guy behind Dwarf fort, the man behind Cave Story, the fellows behind Terraria. Dont you dare tell me that I wanted nintendo to be anything like those scumbags sony and MS. That's just a strawman you use.
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>>385564561
How is that any different from Day One DLC? You can't unlock it until you payed for it. The only difference between the two is where that data is stored.
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Hard mode will be a paid extra in all Nintendo games from now on. They got away with it on BotW, so the consumers have given them carte blanche to sell whatever important features they like.
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>>385564768
Again, why should I be paying for something that I can't use without an additional purchase?

This doesn't just apply to metroid. This is every game with on-disc DLC.
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>>385564768
It's anti-consumer. We need to make sure this practice is taboo so it doesn't spiral out of control.
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>>385564403
>Nintendo's stocks have never been better since Kimishima took over
>This is a bad thing
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>>385562553
you forgot to mention you get the value of the figurines themselves

>but who the fuck cares about some shitty figurines

I mean who cares about some shitty fusion mode

>paying money for additional content reee
>it should have been in the base game reeeee

why are we getting more and more entitled
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>>385562553
or you can just pirate all that and enjoy it for free. fuck nintendo
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>>385564764
FUCK YOU! YOU ASKED FOR THIS SHIT! You keep on paying for Day One DLC and Season Passes. Those companies are making a fuckton of money from DLC and you fuckers are enabling them. Fuck, you dumbasses even paid for the one-time use grenades DLC for Deus-Ex. You deserved to be nickle and dime to death for supporting that shit in the first place.
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>>385562792
Do people even use the sound test?
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>>385565016
Why are plastic figurines even a factor in a discussion about VIDEO GAME content, you fucking retard?

you realize that not everybody who plays VIDEO GAMES wants plastic figurines?
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>>385562553
Art gallery and sound arent important
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>>385565042
>Fans beg for new Metroid game
>Series has never sold well
>'DUDE JUST PIRATE IT!'
Name a worse fanbase.
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>>385562553
just buy chinese amiibo cards
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>>385565016
>why are we getting more and more entitled
Corporate shill begone.

>>385565147
>You keep on paying for Day One DLC and Season Passes.
Gonna stop you right there. Haven't touched an AAA game in years.
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>>385565006
>I support a vidya company on its stock
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>>385565171
what the fuck does money have to do with video game content reeree

you realize you don't have to buy it reehee
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>>385564928
On-disc and off-disc really makes no fucking difference. You're still paying for it, you idiot.

>>385564990
Hahaha. No. DLCs are a huge success because idiots keep buying them. You can't make something that is now industry standard as taboo.
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>>385562553
>10 bucks to get 20 nfc cards
>0 bucks for an android phone
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>>385565180
>release remake for ages old series
>dlc out of the ass
>WTF JUST TAKE IT UP THE ASS LIKE ME BRO
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>>385562553
>important
Nope sorry OP
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>>385565252
Yeah, anon. I'm sure you haven't. I can totally take your word on it.
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>>385565257
>A company I like doing well financially is a bad thing
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>>385565016
>why are we getting more and more entitled
i wonder who could be behind this post
it's not like this is a remake of a relatively short game from 1991 or anything
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>>385565006
Anon, stop. Please don't try and talk about stocks on /v/. No one here has any idea how they actually work.
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>>385565398
Ah, so you want some proof? Well, here are some of my GOTY contenders for the past 5 or so years. And yes, I know Bit Trip is iffy with some cosmetic DLC, but I can let it slide as long as it's purely cosmetic. And I'd let it slide here too if hard mode wasn't locked behind it.
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>>385562553
my thoughts are the same as always
fuck nintendo and their shitty breaking hardware their gay kiddy kids games and their totally fucking anti consumer dlc in a figure model that is indefnesible unless youre abrainwashed drone
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>>385565176
>>385565162
Art galleries and sound galleries aren't very used features, that is correct

You know what else has become like that? Splitscreen modes and campaign modes in games. That's why devs have stopped including them.
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>>385565006
Because of products that were developed under Iwata.
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>>385565475
yes it is I the CEO of Samus
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>>385565312
>you're still paying for it

If it was on the amiibos themselves, I wouldn't be.because I don't buy amiibos. How can you not get this through your thick skull?
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>>385565512
Yeah, 'your' image totally proves me how you only bought those games and not any other games.
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>>385562553
>people were mockingly mentioning publishers would sell difficulty levels as DLC years ago
>people were praising Nintendo for not following the horrible DLC practices as its competitors
>"nintendo does DLC right", they said
>nintendo is literally the only publisher selling difficulty levels as DLC, first with BotW, now with MSR
How can anyone possibly defend this?
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>>385565512
>this faggot again
Are you ever gonna kill yourself? At least put on a trip so we can filter you.
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>>385565579
it would be better if you were
because if you're defending a company fucking you up the ass and they're not even paying for for it, that's pretty fucking sad
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>>385565016
>why are we getting more and more entitled
>You buy a $30 toy to play a game on hard mode
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>>385565661
You don't have to believe me, but the image I gave you is the games I praised the most. So take that as you will.
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>>385565631
And if you don't buy the DLCs, you can't access them regardless. On and off makes no fucking difference if it's still behind a paywall. You're still paying for unlocking the content.
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>>385565689
>company fucking me up the ass
>release base game
>releases additional content and charges for it

I guess literally every game ever is fucking me up the ass. Good thing I just don't buy things i don't want to buy.
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>>385565512
>ACfag
Into the trash it goes.
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>>385565180
who said anything about pirating the game? I was referring specifically to the jew nosed dlc
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>the most meaningless content is on the Zero Suit Samus amiibo
I'd have no problem if this wasn't the case

I guess they've sold enough ZSS amiibos compared to the others, unsurprisingly.
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>>385565406
>stock price
>anything to do with financially well

ofc anime poster hasn't finished highschool, also support anti consumer practice because a company is doing well overall is just retarded. might as well go lick comcast and sony butt hole at this point
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>>385565746
Fuck off retard.
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>>385565757
>and if you don't buy the DLC's, you can't access them regardless

Yes, congratulations regard, you understand now

When I don't buy something I can't use it!

Unfortunately, the way it is now, I AM buying something and not being able to use it.
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>>385565663
BECAUSE YOU ACTUALLY GET SOMETHING
YOU AREN'T PAYING FOR A HARD MODE YOU'RE PAYING FOR AN AMIIBO, AND YOU GET HARDMORE FOR FREEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>385565790
This.
Boycott the amiibo, not the game.
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>>385562553
We ALL know there's going to be an unofficial patch or cheat codes.

Or amiibo emulators

Seriously, who hasn't hacked their 3DS by now?
You can even buy the game and not have to spend a cent on amiibos.
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>>385565687
>>385565780
So you gonna provide an argument or are you just gonna continue white knighting a faceless corporation?
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>85 posts
>39 IPs
Sony cucks are this desperate.
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>>385565829
>that autistic image
that's just ACfag being retarded. Ignore.
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>>385563131

>it will affect sales
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>>385565775
>difficulty level that is on the cartridge
>content that is locked out just to incentivize people to get the amiibo
>nintendofans are defending this
This is getting beyond ridiculous. I remember the days when people would be extremely upset over on-disc DLC, now people are actually defending it?
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>>385565871
Except you're not buying the Fusion Mode. You're paying for the core game itself, which is a remake of the original, which does not have a hard mode at all. Nevermind the fact the only thing different is where the data is stored. You're somehow saying you would fine if it was an off-disc DLC.
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>>385565875
>hard mode for free
How? The only way to access it is with an amiibo, which you need to buy. Are you suggesting I steal?
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>>385565509

>No one here has any idea how they actually work.

Tell us how they work, mr. genius
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>>385566063
this thread wouldn't even exist if nintendo just released the game and didn't make fusion mode and still sold the figurines for 30. That is the definition of entitlement.
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>>385565162
Not many people. I really like the sound test feature if a game has it, though.
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>>385566063
>I remember the days when people would be extremely upset over on-disc DLC
And upset as they were, people still bought it. Face it, this is the future you guys help create.
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>>385566232
>people still bought it
Not the DLC, which is why Capcom went back on the concept.
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>>385566183
The company itself does not really profit from the highs and lows of stocks. All the selling and buying is just a way for investors to trick idiots into giving them more money.
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>>385566105
Do I have to spell it out for you?

I'm paying for the cartridge. Hard mode is on the cartridge. I can't access hard mode without an amiibo. Therefore, I am paying for something I can't use.

If hard mode and all these other features were included on the amiibo itself instead of in my cartridge, then I wouldn't be paying for something useless. And it would be fine.
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>>385565917
at least switch to your wojak if youre not going to try
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So why is it only not okay when Nintendo does it? Nobody here ever shits on other companies for pulling anti consumer shit like this. Really makes you think huh?
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For metroid prime you needed a $100 GBA, $20(?) GC-GBA link cable, $40 Metroid fusion. Count in the inflation and that would make $220.

That >>385562553 's $78 is a bargain.
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>>385565512
Wolflame isn't from 2016 and Zangeki Warp isn't from 2017.
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>>385566437
Name one (1) other company who has locked game difficulties behind a paywall.
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I've never played a metroid or castlevania game. What GBA game should I start with?
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>>385566186
They did make fusion mode, they did put it on the disc, they did lock it out to sell more amiibos, Nintendo are the worst DLC practitioners.
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>>385566437
>Nobody here ever shits on other companies for pulling anti consumer shit like this.
Instead of articulating why you're an idiot for saying this, I'm just not gonna bother. Here, let me give you a quick image demonstrating why.
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>>385566354
You're not paying for the cartridge. You're paying for the remake of Metroid II. It's no different than you paying for a license to play games on Steam.
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>>385566163
You buy an amiibo. You just paid for a nice figure for 13 bucks or so.
You then get the content for free.
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>>385566495
I'm counting theirenglish releases. Couldn't get them online beforehand without doing some extremely shady crap in jap websites.
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>>385566520
Zero Mission and Aria of Sorrow
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>>385566354
lol you're not paying for the cartridge, you're paying only for the base game.
Nintendo isn't locking you out of anything, you are locking yourself out by not paying for it.
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>>385566641
This. Amiibo are an investment. You have to decide if the money you pay for one is going to pay off when more content is made for it in future games. But that's assuming you're not just buying an Amiibo just for the sake of owning an Amiibo.
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>>385566592
Poor analogy. You can sell your cartridge after you have used it, you can't sell your steam game license after you have used it.
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The last "Nintendo" game I bought was Pokemon XY. I just moved on. I'm playing older games now because they don't treat their customers like trash. Old games tend to be better in general too. Does anyone really need to defend Nintendo at this point? They've been doing shit since forever and people have defended them since forever.
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>>385566437
t. victimized victim
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>>385566471
I hope this is sarcasm
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>>385566520
Aria of Sorrow for Castlevania, Fusion for Metroid (Fusion handholds you more than Zero Mission, so it should feel easier to a newcomer, Zero Mission holds your hand but less so)
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>>385566641
I don't want a figurine. How do I get the content?
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>>385566728
>Base game doesn't imply multiple difficulty modes when Nintendo decides to lock it behind a paywall
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>>385566787
Not an argument
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>>385566759
You get to keep your cartridge where as Steam can just revoke your right to play your game.
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I get Metroid games make actually no money but come on this is a garbage way to compensate.

I suggest no one buy the amiibos but purchase the game, and then let Nintendo know we want to be able to traditionally unlock this stuff and let people get it from theyre amiibos without having to do anything if they want.
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>>385566523
But you would've been okay with it if they never created fusion right? The figurines being released wouldn't have mattered because you would not have bought them. So since people are going to buy them anyway as an extra reward they are going to give you more content for the people who would have bought them anyway and the people who would not have bought them anyway still would have the same amount of content.

its literally entitlement.
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>Buying 3DS games in 2017
lol?
Literally arguing over absolutely nothing.
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>>385566839
Not an argument
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>>385566814
Because the original doesn't have multiple difficulty modes, you dumb frog.
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>>385566810
You don't.
It is a free perk for people who have amiibos.
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>>385565512
Fuck off ACfag
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>>385566810
You wait until someone uploads the nfc codes and then download them
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>not growing up on autistic nintendoshit
>not giving a fuck about having to buy toys to unlock content that should be included from the start
>being able to enjoy better games without having an autistic fit because its not muh nintendo

Feels pretty gud famalam

But srsly, just pirate this shit. There will be enough idiots that get the toys anyway and if Nintendo really should kill of your beloved baby franchise, you maybe realize that there still are enough alternatives out there that offer the same or even better content.

>but muh samus, I want to play muh samus

Why not read fanfiction while letting ur fidgetspinner spin if gameplay is less important than a fking character?
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>>385566945
Zero Mission, Fusion and all three Prime games had multiple difficulty modes. Am I not allowed to expect it from the next Metroid game or something?
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>>385567018
>like all the same men are doing.
And now the truth comes out, here's your (you)'s.
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>>385562553
If it makes you angry, boycott it or pirate it and crack it for the content.
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>>385567113
No, not really. it's what being a remake is about. Any new content that gets added on is that, extra content. They don't really have to add anything new if they don't want to. It's not a part of the core game.
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>all this pointless bitching
You fags already lost, can't you see? If you're going to buy this game then Nintendo will just continue with their Amiibo bullshit as usual and if you won't then say goodbye to Metroid forever.
You brought it on yourselves desu.
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>>385567297
Or you can just buy the game but not the Amiibo, but logic was never /v/'s strong suit, so they'll just shit on everything instead of doing the logical thing.
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>>385567073
Why do you type like some autistic teenager on facebook? Kill yourself.
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>>385566883
I am entitled to make use of everything on the cartridge for my personal enjoyment when I purchase MSR at retail, yes. You use the term entitlement in a derogatory manner, which is not valid when you purchase a product yet are not given its full value. The plain fact is that fusion mode was made, is on the cartridge, is locked out behind an amiibo paywall, and Nintendo is jewing every Metroid fan with this deal.
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>>385567296
Except they did it with Zero Mission which was also a remake, there is literally no excuse for it to not be obtainable in the exact same manner that it was with ZM.
When they remade Resident Evil they didn't have to add in One Dangerous Zombie but they did and it was fucking awesome, something being behind a paywall because it's not in the original is the epitome of 'not an argument'.
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>>385567430
So if amiibos had more capacity to store data and the fusion mode was placed on the amiibo instead of the disc and I mean thats if the mode isn't a download instead of actually being on the disc then it would be ok.
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>>385567416
don't take this away from him m8 it's alll he has
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>>385562740
>it's literally okay when Nintendoes it
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>>385567626
>It's literally only bad when Nintendo does it
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>>385567537
No, day-one DLC is just as bad as on-disc DLC, just a different form of bad.
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>>385567382
is the logical thing for you = defending anti consume garbo ?
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>>385567719
Who hurt you?
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>>385567048
Are you really this triggered by differing opinions?
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>>385567430
You clearly don't understand what you're entitled to when you purchase video game software. Maybe you should find a different hobby?
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>>385567683
>assumptions
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>>385562553
just pirate it and get it all for free!
>but then nintendo won't make anymore metroid
I don't give a shit.
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>>385567861
>ACfag's opinion
>Mattering
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yep thats some bullshit
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>Metroidtards don't get a new game
>they complain
>Metroidtards get 2 new games
>they complain

And they wonder why Nintendo doesn't care about them.
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>>385567941
Metroid """fans""" once again proving why they are the worst fanbase in gaming.

>>385568000
They truly are a cancer.
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>>385567683
>metro last light has the highest difficulty modes, which are described as "the way metro is meant to played" by the devs, as day one dlc
>everyone is pissed off and boycots the dlc
>devs realise they fucked and release difficulty levels for free

>nintendo releases fusion mode as amiibo locked content
>nintendofans actually defend this
>nintendo continues to nickle and dime all their series in the future
Have fun with the run button locked out in future Mario games unless you buy the appropriate amiibo.
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i don't think amiibos are all that bad to be honest with you familia
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>>385567790
How is buying the game but not the Amiibo defending anti-consumer? I'm only paying for the remake of Metroid II.
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>>385567953
>this coming from a corporate apologist
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>>385567416
Your fidgetspinner is going too fast anon, relax.
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>>385568086
I LIKE IT IN THE ASS FUC KYOU
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Federation Force looks better than Samus Returns.
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>>385568000
>>385568052
This, seriously. Metroid fags are literally worse than DMC fags at this point.
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>>385567719
He is salty because he knows its the truth
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>tfw a couple dozens of /v/irgins think they can boycott nintendo

just get a job, if 20 bucks is too much for you you probably shouldn't own a 3ds or an internet connection
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>>385568203
>Buy game because it's a product I want
>Don't buy amiibos because it's a product I don't want

>Corporate shill
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>>385562553
There's literally no reason to care about metroid anymore, where there are tons of clones left and right, they made the genre and now they are killed by it.
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>>385568385
Name three games that have the same level of atmosphere and exploration as the Prime series.
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>>385568490
Nope, pirating MSR and the amiibo locked content.
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>>385562553
>Thoughts?

That writing these is going to be way cheaper and easier than trying to get all the amiibo-related content I want by actually paying for all the figurines.
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>>385568560
>where there are tons of clones left and right
And none as good as Super or Zero Mission, really gets the brain bubbling.
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>new Metroid announces
>Nintendo sabotages it with insane amiibo unlocks

Reminder that Zero Mission had all of these features and the original Metroid as features that could be unlocked.
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>>385568602
I bet you have a massive dick
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>He doesn't spoof amiibos
>He doesn't pirate 3DS games
LMAOing at your life. The game, and all DLC is free for me.
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Do you guys just not know that you can buy a fuckton of nfc cards for extremely cheap and pirate as many amiibos as you want?
Or do you just keep making this threads because you need something to talk about?
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>>385568000
Metroid faggots truly are the worst.
The best thing that could happen as a result of their ungrateful greediness is that Prime 4 goes into development hell for another 4 years before it's announced that it's not being released at all.
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>>385562792
seriously, what are these fuckin retards not taking up this opportunity
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>>385568574
Never played a single one of these games, but considering the sheer number of games and that the prime games are fps on a fking console, there are probably way more than 3 games that shit all over them. Unless you are an autistic nintendofuccboi. In that case enjoy your console fps
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>>385568962
Its the fact the Nintendo is doing it in the forst place thats crazy. Limited DLC is fucking gross.
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>>385569068
>prime games are fps
And Ocarina of Time is a hack and slash.
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I don't see the big deal. The metroid amiibo is the only one that unlocks any worthwhile content, and OP's pic is misleading anyway since you can buy it on its own. Besides, who the fuck wouldn't want a squishy metroid amiibo?
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>>385569265
>I like it when Nintendo fucks me in the ass
What did he mean by this?
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>>385569265
>hard mode is now limited to how many amiibos Nintendo makes
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>>385569083

A "super hard" mode and a picture gallery are not DLCs. It's just a tiny bit of extra content that only 0,001% of the playerbase would actually use.

Meanwhile Splatoon had fucking DOZENS of missions locked behind amiibos and no one ever talks about that. You guys just wanna complain, if you really wanna play that hard mode just spend 10 bucks of pirate the amiibo, no need to make 20 threads every day
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>>385569238
But 4chan is already full of people who don't contribute to discussion in any meaningful way.
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>>385569417
>No one ever talks about that
Because the game came out years ago
Why would they talk about it now
And people were complaining back then
It's happened for every game
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>>385569417
>0,001%
Its actually 0.001% but your wrong anyway, im sure a little more people then that want hard mode. Also
>hard mode cost 10$
Nice
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>>385569238
this is literally the highlight of you week isn't it >>385569548
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>>385568492
>calling people faggots because they don't want the amiibo
>saying people are sonybros and fence sitters if they choose not to buy the amiibos
>dude get a job XD

>not a corporate shill
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>>385569208
Its first person, you shoot guns. Sounds like an fps to me. Kinda understandable that it doesnt feel like one tho, when u are inherently gimped because you play with a controller.
>Oot is hack and slash
Dont know, never played that either. Looks like shit tho.
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>>385569676
>Its actually 0.001%
DUMB FUCKING AMERICAN UNDERAGEDS
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>>385567267
I just want to play the games. All these hoops I have to jump through make gaming less a funtime and more a chore
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>>385562553
Well just don't buy it then
Metroid fans are already entitled so this just gives them a petty reason not to get the game
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>>385569676
It's actually 0,001% if you aren't a stupid american
Are you too busy going to mcdonalds and shooting up schools to earn ten bucks
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>>385569417
wasn't the splatoon dls announced after it released? that would've those mission sort of an expansion

announcing all this shit before the game is even released makes it feel like they're done with the game and locking parts behind he amiibos
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>>385569785
Then pay 10$ and stop making these fucking threads
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>>385562553
Does this stuff get unlocked anyway after completing the game?
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>>385569839
He's been saying that all thread. You see it in posts like >>385565943
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>>385562553
>extra content if you want to pay more
I dont see the problem
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>some random person managed to make the perfect Metroid 2 remake
>nintendo completely fucks up a metroid 2 remake
What happened to Nintendo? How did they go from Zero Mission to Samus Returns?
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>>385569880
The special edition of the game (day 1) came with an amiibo that unlocked those extra missions, on top of that, 2 more were released later, but they all unlocked on disc dlc
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>>385569676
>trying to correct someone's perfectly correct post because you don't know regional differences
>fucking up your/you're while you do it
American education, ladies and gentlemen
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>>385569968
Nintendo said it's Amiibo only through a rep. They might backpedal if the press is bad enough, though.
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>>385569968
Yes, ignore shills. This stuff has been standard for Metroid since Fusion.
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>>385569953
>then pay 10 dollar
What would 10 bucks get me? Don't you mean 70?
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>>385570049
You just grew up bruh xD
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>>385570068
Well considering the only people really kicking up a stink about it are autists on 4chan, I don't think they'll end up changing it.
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>>385562553
>important content: Art gallery
>important content: Sound test
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>>385570237
Wrong, even NintenGAF is pissed.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1412940
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>>385570237
Yeah, though anyone who gives a shit can easily make amiibos more or less for the gen within 50 bucks, and that's generously assuming they don't have a NFC-compatible android device.

It's about as braindead as DS emulation, drag and drop the appropriate files and then mass order some cheap NFC tags out of china. Writing takes mere seconds because NFC chips can't hold significant sizes of data.
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>>385562553
Buying .50-1.00 Amiibo NFC tag cards from ebay is hard.

Or just buy an amiiqo if you want to drop that money.
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>>385570385
Sorry, meant DS flashcarts rather than emulation, but hope that the point still stands.
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>>385570142
"Fusion" mode is the only worthwile extra content, you can see art galleries and sound test online. Just buy the standalone metroid amiibo and there you go. Or pirate it, whatever you please
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>they say the amiibo can be used across multiple games, so it's a real deal
>except they release ANOTHER amiibo, and your amiibo doesn't have the content for it
>they do this 4 times in a row, so you need 4 amiibos per game just to access the content

And people will defend this.
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>>385570432
>no true scotsman
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>>385570408
stop cheating you pirate
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>>385569861
>>385569774
>Implying I give more then 0.001% of a shit about how other countries do things
>still defending a 10$ (or more) hard mode
Maybe they do things differently over there in wherever the fuck you live (like I care lol) but my mom taught me that when the big company man tells you to suck his dick, you slap that dick square in its head and say "fuck off faggot"
>>385570062
You're supposed to finish your sentence with a "." mate ; ^ )
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>>385570663
>You're supposed to finish your sentence with a "." mate ; ^ )
You too
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>>385570476
I'm right though, who honestly gives a shit about seeing pictures and hearing sound effects through a 3ds when you can see them for free on any device with an internet connection? (Yes, technically even a 3ds)
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>>385570663
>You're supposed to finish your sentence with a "." mate ; ^ )
why don't you try it some time dumb fuck
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>>385570756
>I'm right though
>>
>people still have a problem with games getting additional content in 2017

Go play your super nintendo kiddies
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>>385570756
Me, because it was a nice bonus for beating the game in past Metroids. There's absolutely zero (0) reason for them to not do what they did for Fusion, ZM, Prime 1-3 with SR.
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>>385570663
not gonna waste my time arguing with someone who can't even wash his ass after he takes a shit and rides a scooter inside walmart
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>>385562553
I will be purchasing this game but not the amiibo because I do not support such practices.
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>>385570723
***.
>>385570791
***.
>Falling so obviously for my trap
You non-American's are too easy to fool.
Nice try though ; ^ ).
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>>385570842
If they can profit off some non necessary extra content, they will, it's a business after all
>>385570803
sick reply
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>>385570974
>I was only PRETENDING to be retarded!
every time
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>>385571008
The only person that is sick is you. Seek adult counseling
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>>385571008
>Nintendo
>Poor
I'm sure one of the biggest companies in the world would really be hurting without amiibos.
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>>385562553

>caring about sound tests and art galleries in an age where all that shit is gonna be available for free with a few days after release

I do agree that locking the difficulty behind amiibo is retarded though.
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>>385570974
>spacing between emoticon components
>dot after emoticon
>nose in emoticons after the year 1999

fuck usa
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>>385571050
***.
Now try agian, sweetie.
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>>385570449
You know, you can win these kinds of arguments without lying out your ass. But since you did, let me pick at that easy target instead of addressing your argument directly.

Only 2 amiibos are launching with the game, the other 2 are smash amiibo. The 2 smash amiibo have already been usable on several games. All 4 will probably also unlock things in Prime 4.
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>Pokebarneyfag and ACFag in the same thread
Did Christmas come early?
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>Metroid babies finally get their bottle
>Nintendo still finds a way to fuck them

They must have done this on purpose. No other Nintendo game has been this Jew-y. It serves them right for being so entitled with their "FUCK OTHER M!!!!!!!!!!! I DESERVE A NEW METROID GAME NOW NOW NOW REEEEEEEEEE"
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>>385571118
Did I ever say Nintendo is poor? A company exists for the sole purpose of making money, they can use amiibos to make more money, they will
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>>385562553
Why the fuck are people complaining about this particular game? hasn't simular situations happened with other games and no one cared.
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>>385562553
>pay $3.20 to spoof all 4 amiibos using NFC tags

wow so expensive
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>>385571303
Metroid fags are one of the most autistic fanbases out there.
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>>385562553
current year not having a hacked 3ds so no money is spent on this shit
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>>385571303
It's metroidfags
Their capacity to complain is second to no other fanbase.
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>>385571364
>one of
Name one (1) fanbase more cancerous than Metroid.
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>>385571303
All dlc is shit, there you have it
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>>385571312
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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QUICK QUESTION

Does anyone have any proof that any of this stuff is actually LOCKED behind Amiibo?

I remember some of you same fuckers bitched about content being "locked" behind Amiibo in Star Fox Zero, but as it turned out everything accessible with Amiibo was unlockable in game, it's just the Amiibo let you access it early (and without earning it in game).

Same with Kirby Planet Robobot. People thought that Smash was only accessible in certain areas without Amiibo (it isn't, you can take it everywhere), and that UFO was completely inaccessible without Amiibo -
as it turned out, UFO was just a 100% completion unlock since it breaks the already easy game in half, but could be accessed earlier with Amiibo if you wanted to use baby's mode.

So, again, is there any proof that the Metroid Amiibos are REQUIRED for unlocking this stuff? Or is everyone jumping the gun again, and Hard mode's going to be unlocked after your first playthrough, and Sound Test after you complete Hard Mode, and Art Gallery after a speed run?
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>>385571348
C'mon man I didn't even shill, I just really like your shitposting, it's interesting to me.
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>>385571264
They could also just use amiibos to gate non essential content rather than game difficulties. Reminder ZM unlocked Hard after completing the game.
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>>385571118
Do you not notice how much amiibo sells? Sure Nintendo wouldn't be hurting without amiibo, but why would they pass up on such an easy way to make money? Heck, if I were in charge at Nintendo I would be 100% in favor of pushing out more amiibo.
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Nintentoddlers will eat this up regardless

Nintendo know how stupid their fanbase is.
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>>385562553
Yet another reason why AM2R is better.
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Anon from /feg/ here, I'm honestly worried that this is gonna happen to our franchise.
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>>385571549
https://nintendowire.com/news/2017/07/29/several-metroid-samus-returns-features-locked-behind-amiibo/
http://nintendoeverything.com/nintendo-officially-confirms-that-metroid-samus-returns-fusion-mode-can-only-be-unlocked-with-amiibo/
http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/07/29/metroid-samus-returns-fusion-mode-is-amiibo-exclusive
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>people are defending this saying "oh its more content"
You fags are missing the point. This is DAY ONE DLC THAT ON THE FUCKING CART FOR THE PRICE OF A NEW GAME
ITS OKAY WHEN NINTENDO DOES
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>>385571590
Old games didn't have dlcs
Now they do
This just happens to be dlcs in physical form, but this shit has been around for 10 years
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>>385571687
Nintendo can lock FE's hardest difficulties behind amiibo. They can shove those difficulties up their ass for all I care.
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>>385562553
here are 50 amiibos for the price of barely more than 1
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>>385571738
kys
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>>385571629
If Kuckashima wants to continue to push amiibos then that's his prerogative but locking essential things like difficulty modes is ridiculous.
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>>385571729
Well that's fucking retarded. That's basically on-disc DLC. How is anyone legitimately arguing this is ok?
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>>385571879
>buying chinese shit
Kill yourself
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>>385571817
Maybe to the pessimist, but I see it as a bonus for buying decent quality collectibles (not counting that horrible first wave of smash amiibo).
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>>385571925
I remember the days when a game was hard on its own and didn't need added difficulty modes at all
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>>385562553
>go to etsy
>get all the amiibo cards for super cheap
>don't have to collect toys
>get all the content from everything
how can nintendo be so stupid to miss such an over site
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>>385571687
>>385571839
Fire Emblem already turned to shit with Fates, so who gives a shit about that anymore

>cancer phoenix mode
>incest
>pedophilia
>petting your fucking big tits waifu

Awakening left me with some hope, but Fates killed whatever was left of the franchise and pissed on it's grave
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>>385571987
I'm still surprised they managed to shit out some decent ones after how worrying those Sm4sh amiibo were. The Zelda anniversary ones are pretty okay.
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>>385571925
Difficulty modes are hardly what I would consider 'essential', especially ones that I can't access until I've already beaten the game.
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>>385572059
Echoes fixed all the story / character based issues

It fucked up the gameplay real hard though.
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>>385571987
I agree, I don't mind how they look and buying one like once a year for a game I really care about doesn't bother me, even though i agree it would be better if all content was included in the base game.
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>>385571945
Amiibos are made in china, so there you go.
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>>385572208
Echoes didn't fix shit, it's an old game from the pre weeb shit era, next game will be trash again
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>>385571224
>The 2 smash amiibo have already been usable on several games.
Ignoring this blatant lie, why aren't they usable with every single game? Why can't I use them with games not even tangentially related to Metroid? why must I buy multiple amiibos for every single game?
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>>385572171
Hard mode in ZM
>Changes enemy locations
>Changes damage amounts
>Changes amount of expansions
Those are some pretty big changes and makes it a new experience, locking something of that caliber behind an amiibo is ridiculous. I did't need to scan a Chris Redfield amiibo on my GameCube to play as Chris in REmake.
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>>385572208
>here's a free rewind button
And still see Echoes being defended.
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>>385572059
Anon, incest has been in the series for fucking years.
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>>385572305
I'm against buying the game
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>>385572394
Regular hard mode is included in the game.
The mode locked behind amiibo is the same shit, only you take x4 damage instead of x2

big fucking deal
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>>385571243
Looks like Cody just joined too. :^)
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>>385572310
>pre weeb
The games have always been weeb
Kill yourself retard
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>>385572587
>Regular hard mode is included in the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P40_kd-mS8
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>>385571687
Just like how they locked a powerup behind an amiibo in kirby or like how you need to use amiibos to unlock costumes in Mario Maker. Oh wait, you can unlock those ingame
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What FE have the best story? The one in awakening didn't do much for me
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>>385572879
Just like how you can unlock hard mode in BOTW?

Oh wait.
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>>385572881
Fates
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>>385572943
That's not amiibo. Didn't mean to reply to a post
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>>385572943
Isn't some stuff locked to amibos on botw?
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>>385572638
weeb = waifu shit
don't care about the fact that its anime
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>>385573123
see>>385573210

And in a 60 dollar game too. A piece of crap that can't even maintain what could be described as a stable 30 FPS.
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>>385572958
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>>385572046
>hack 3DS
>don't have to pay for game
>get every aspect of the game for free
how can nintendo be so stupid to miss such an over "site"
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>>385562553
Fuck your amiibo cash grabbing bullshit shitendo
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>>385573245
This is why I hate the word weeb so much, nobody can agree on what the fuck it means.
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>>385573306
They patched it.
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>>385562553
>a different kind of suit samus is needed to unlock stuff in this specific game modes
>the other suit samus just unlocks additional art
Well, that "your amiibos can be used used in all games" is getting little disingenuous.
>>
Metroid Prime 4 is gonna have Amiibo features.
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>>385573347
The weeb is, simply put, the eastern equivalent of the SJW. They do not want gameplay in their video games, just tits and asses and over-the-top cinematic cutscenes, whereas your average SJW will want gender politics, diversity, and boring realistic cutscenes.

They're both human garbage, so it's easy to mistake them for one another.
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>>385573245
That is not what weeb means, retarded inbred
Even the first games have waifus. are you retarded?
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>>385573306
yeah, for cosmetic items. really bummed over that """"""""""""content""""""""""""
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>>385573439
Will Odyssey?
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>>385573493
You're just proving my point.
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>>385573396
Sure they did.

>b-but it's just a few areas
Is that some backtracking I see?
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>>385573210
>>385573306
Yes but not really.

There's a few items locked behind Amiibos. None of them are actually great items, and they're all more cosmetic than anything else, representing the game the Amiibo's from.

So they basically locked costumes and skins behind Amiibos in BotW. Which isn't great, but is hardly comparable to an entire mode, sound test, and art gallery.
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>>385573493
Lmao what the fuck
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>>385573439
Hopefully.
It's good for Nintendo to make their amiibos get good use.
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>>385565406
for the company, it's a good thing
for consumers, it's usually a bad thing

if a company is doing well, it isn't hungry. if it isn't hungry, it isn't competitive.
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>>385573327
>go to bank
>pull out rifle
>get all the money for free
how can the world be so stupid to miss such an oversite
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>>385573542
The same complaint YOU lodge at games like TF2, but if I told you that you were overreacting, what would be your response?

>lol you're just a pcbro, stop defending gabe you piece of shit

Yet now cosmetics are okay when Nintendo does it. intriguing.
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>>385573570
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>>385573210
Skins, cosmetic weapons (that are never as good as the random drop ones) and that's it.
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>>385571146
You meant to say
>using the smiley with the carat nose
Didn't you?
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>>385573530
They weren't an actual mechanic in the game, they were either just there or were playable
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>>385573647
>ACfag
Into the trash it goes.
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>>385568052
>>385568323
>anyone who is interested in a game is a fan
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>>385562553
It's only a dlc but in physical
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>>385573647
I never got this

Who gives a shit about cosmetics in games like csgo/tf2/dota and now pubg?
If you don't care about them you don't buy them, if you do, pay the price
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>>385573647
Since when the fuck did anyone mention TF2?

Cosmetic shit being locked behind DLC is still jewish, but it's not nearly as bad and no one particularly cares.

Locking actual gameplay mechanics or modes behind DLC is fucking terrible.
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>>385573728
So you are mad because they added more things?
How is that bad?
My point still stands, the game are weeb since the start and had waifus
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>>385573876
>>385573894
>Responding to ACfag
Please don't do this.
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Is this the birth of an epic new meme? In the past 2 days, I've seen literally 7 or 8 different variants of this fucking image, all slightly different. I understand we need to deflect from the PSN price increase, but at least keep it consistent.
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>$30 to unlock hardmode

Nintenbros are going to defend this.
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>>385573853
The Metroid amiibo is the only dlc
The others are extremely useless shit that only triggers autists
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>>385573210
Yeah, I can give you a quick list if you'd like.

>Outfits with equivalent effects to those you can earn in the game (e.g. other than cosmetically the Sheik outfit and the Sheikah outfit have no difference functionally)

>Weapons with unique skins and descriptions that at best match other weapons you can find in the game.

>Epona, which automatically has perfect stats for a "typical" horse which is unlikely but not astronomically so.

Overall amiibos in BotW function as an aid/crutch, easily getting you resources which would take more effort to obtain equivalents for otherwise.
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>>385573643
>Put my dick on a vagina
>Fucked It
>Have a baby

How can my dick be so stupid to miss such an oversite
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>>385573686
you said they patched it all he proved you wrong
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>>385573985
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>>385565006
>culture
>a shit load of money

pick one.
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>>385573953
>It's okay when sony does it
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>>385573909
It seems to me that the focus switched over to fan service (adding marriage, nintendogs waifu edition etc.) rather than the actual gameplay mechanics that made the series good in the first place.

This is why FE is selling more than ever and Advance Wars is dead


>>385573947
Is this a new meme I'm not aware of?
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>>385573647
You're clearly fucking retarded but I've never mentioned TF2. And I don't have any problems with it's business model because I haven't played it in years. But a F2P game needs a source of income to stay afloat, obviously. As for Botw, I don't fucking care because it's cosmetic
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>>385573876
>>385573894
I'm just saying, the next time we have a TF2 thread, you know the exact same people saying it's okay for Nintendo to lock cosmetics behind amiibos? They'll be the first to complain about cosmetics in any other game. And that's a guarantee. I chose TF2 because it's the most prominent example.
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>>385562553
what is having lend an amiibo from your friend whom mains Samus or ZSSamus in Smash?

ain't buying that smash amiibo shiet...I'll maybe
buy the Samus returns pack
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>>385574113
see>>385574121

Sure you can claim that you're okay with it now, but that's only because it's Nintendo doing it. Your attitude will change very quickly if it's someone else making bank.
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>>385562553
as I said before,

Metroid fans haven't spend any cash on their beloved franchise for over 10 years.

Plus y'all americucks can get those amiibos way cheaper than us, people from Bananaland
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>>385573647
comparing a 60 dollar game to a f2p one where cosmetics do nothing at all
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>Thoughts
Another shitpost
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>>385562553
It's okay when Nintendo does it
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>>385574121
Who in the fuck said it's ok to lock cosmetics behind a paywall?

No one said it's ok, it's just that no one particularly cares about it.

The only people complaining about in your precious TF2 threads are the NEETs who have been playing the game since it's release and have run out of money for the hats so now they just go on chinese frog farming boards to bitch about how much everything costs instead of getting a job (which, coincidentally, is about 97% of the TF2 fanbase).
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>>385574301
It's only bad when Nintendo does it.
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>>385573967
>>385574301

How does it feel to not be able to read
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>>385574242
Those amiibos are instant purchase and nintendo knows
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>>385564164
>>385564164
>>385564164
This. You're literally not allowed to like Nintendo on /v/.
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>>385574109
>reddit spacing
Opinion discarded
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>>385574537
You are allowed to like nintendo, just not nu-nintendo
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I am pretty upset myself. But the sheer number of these threads kind of makes me wonder whether or not a lot of these threads aren't made the same person who made most of the anti Federation Force threads.

Like damn. Do you even like Metroid? Shitting on amiibos is one thing, but calling for boycots of the game altogether is a whole other thing.
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>>385574360
no one said it's okay that everyone else is doing it
and nintedo are the worst offenders locking shitty dlc like hard mode somthing which even mircosoft doesnt lock behind dlc a toy that you cant find and looks like shit
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>>385574537
Wrong. Barring sites dedicated to Nintendo, /v/ is the friendliest gaming community to Nintendo.
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>>385574121
TF2 is fucking dead, so that won't be happening anytime soon. And no, it's not because of hats. It's because it became pay to win, big fucking difference
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>>385574109
>It seems to me that the focus switched over to fan service (adding marriage, nintendogs waifu edition etc.) rather than the actual gameplay mechanics that made the series good in the first place.
>This is why FE is selling more than ever and Advance Wars is dead

Sort of?

FE definitely started selling more when it introduced children. Waifu's might have saved it over in Japan land, but the introduction of Children (and casual mode) is what let it finally land a hit over in north america.

Advance Wars stopped selling when it got rid of the colorful color palette and swapped it for Browns, Greys, and more Browns - Days of Ruin, despite being the best game in terms of gameplay mechanics and balance, sold like SHIT in Japan, even though it actually did pretty well in North America. Japanese developers that aren't Sega don't particularly like being known for making games that are hated in their home country, so they've shelved it until they can think up a way to make tanks have babies on the battlefield.
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>>385571942
Being a true fan means taking a picture of yourself dining with a headshot of reggie memes anime
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>>385574669
Metro locked hard more behind day one DLC.
>It's only bad when Nintendo does it
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>>385574676
me on the left
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>>385574121
Wait, don't all the paid "cosmetics" in TF2 actually affect your stats?

How in the FUCK is that the same as a skin?
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>>385574623
Fuck off nu-fag.
>>385574676
Have you seen /v/ during US day time? You literally can't have a nintendo thread without it being full of shitposters. I tried to have a discussion in an Odyssey thread and every other post was a shitpost. I get it, you're a newfag that just found out about a single thread which decided to create that image years ago. You can stop pretending that /v/ is the same was it was then.
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So I want Nintendo to make lots of Metroid figurines and merchandise. But I don't want them to lock content outside of games.
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>>385562553
YOU ARE ALL FUCKING FAGS STOP COMPLAIN ABOUT EVERYTHING THIS IS THE LAST CHANCE TO SAVE METROID AND YOU FUCKS ARE KILLING IT I SWARE IF THE GAME DON'T SELL I WILL MURDER SOMEONE
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>>385574702
>It's because it became pay to win,
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>>385574542
You're right, a TRUE geek wouldn't format posts XD
Do you even 4chan bro? I'm a /b/tard, I will hack you if I wanna
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>>385574826
Not since they revoked the polycount sets.
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>>385574725
Nah, it stopped selling because of advertising
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>>385574849
>You literally can't have a nintendo thread without it being full of shitposters.
You can't have any post without it full of shitposters, I take it you forget the mass Wii U apologist threads to mask the absolute disaster that console was.
/v/ has always liked Nintendo, falseflaggers and ACfag don't change that.
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>>385574676
Remember when tumblr took over /v/ to send a card to advertisers?
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Anyone know how to get the better special edition in america?
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>>385562553
They said you unlock all the Amiibo content by beating the game, so nice try.
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>>385562553
DELETE THIS
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>>385575194
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
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>>385574876
Pretty sure everyone is well aware of TF2's P2W business model
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>>385574676
That's proof that /v/ hates Nintendo more than anywhere else, retard. The first card we sent to those treehouse faggots gave him cancer, that one finished the job.
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>>385575051
could be worse, could've been sending cards to gaben or kojima
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>>385564449
>just BUY this thing if you want something that should be free to be free

how much fucking mental gymnastics do you have to perform to give Nintendo a pass on this anti-consumer bullshit

I'm mad enough that hard modes aren't unlocked in Nintendo games until after you beat the game in babby mode, but this amiibo toy shit just to play hardmode is one step too far
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>>385575321
>he actually thinks that's worse
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>>385574978
There was none.
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>>385575251
see>>385574876

Citations pls.
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>>385574849
people hate nintendo because they lie we wont have dlc wait forget about what i said The NX will not replace the Wii U The DS will not replace the Gameboy Advance or what about Sakurai and Smash 4 will have no DLC DLC is a scam
Sakurai I won't be developing anymore Smash Bros Games did 3 more having to use a shitty gimmick remote or if you dont wont to use it selling okay controllers for more than sony pc and micro People don't want online gaming
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>>385575194

nice denial nintendipshit

http://nintendoeverything.com/nintendo-officially-confirms-that-metroid-samus-returns-fusion-mode-can-only-be-unlocked-with-amiibo/

next you'll be saying it's okay because Nintendo is doing it
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>>385575364
Define 'nu-shitendo'.
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>>385575347
just play the regular hard mode and reset the 3ds when you get to 50% health

voila
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>options on /v/ that matter
Nice thread.
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>>385575623
>we don't want nu-shitendo.
I do, already pre ordered three copies.
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>"Important" Unlocks
locking hard mode is dumb as fuck though yea
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>>385562664
Never planned to, but I should be able to download the game and get all the content for free, it's my God given right
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>>385575465
Goddamn, you are so autistic you can't even form proper sentences without it being blatant.
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>>385575623
>"we"
>shitposters on /v/
Why does anything matter to you when all you want to do is shitpost all day?
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>>385575586
People expect too much of the companys when they can make them on hard modes, i was playing pokémon and i put a rule that If one dies i have to imediatelly restart the console
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>>385575729
defend it prove me wrong even if i made tons of grammar mistakes
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>>385575623
>if I say "fucking" a lot they'll think I'm a mature gamer
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>>385575465
explain how DLC is a scam without sounding like an inept 12 year old
>b-but months post production labor should be free because I already bought the game!
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>>385575938
When I pay 40+ dollars for a product, only to find out that they're already sanctioning off parts of it to sell later as DLC before the game is even released? When it's not even close to being released and feasibly they could shove it in before the game comes out? Or better yet, they can easily add it in as DLC, but choose not to because they just want more money? That sounds like a scam.

>b-but months post production labor should be free because I already bought the game!
You should be proud to make a good game everyone likes. Being so vehemently greedy that you'll nickel and dime your customers despite already making massive amounts of money is just selfishness. I'm already showing you support by purchasing your game and not pirating it, which I could do very easily. And this is how you reward me? As a Metroid fan, i've also been waiting along time for a good Metroid, and this is how you repay me? You've made me actively wish that you never go near F-Zero, which has been waiting even longer.

Besides, this is a competitive industry, and many other devs are happy to release DLC for free, for years, all because they find it fun. This is the entire power of the modding community at large, and why people took offense to paid mods, because these works were made out of passion and love for the respective games. Putting them behind a paywall for no reason just makes you greedy. Some people don't mind a little extra work with less pay if it's something they genuinely love doing, and when it makes a better product that you can be proud of, nothing can hamper that feeling of accomplishment.

Of course nothing can stop you from charging more, but neither is anything stopping me from considering it a scummy move nonetheless.
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>>385562553
>sound test and art gallery
>important
The fusion mode shouldn't be locked behind amiibo though, that shit IS stupid.
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>>385576558
>Sound test and art gallery
>Not important rewards to the player after beating the game
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>>385576643
>Actually using art gallery and sound test enough to warrant complaining about it being absent
Autism speaks
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It's okay. It's Nintendo.
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>>385576643
someone will just upload all the music to youtube anyways
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>>385576643
no
they're not important
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>>385576859
>Defending on cart DLC
>Calling others autistic
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>>385575385
Exactly.
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>>385577059
>implying I'm defending on cart DLC
Fuck summer
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>>385577120
If you're saying that it's ok for Nintendo to gate two things that have always been unlockable by playing the game then you are in fact defending DLC that is on the cartridge.
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>>385562792
Are you mentally disabled or just don't you know they can just order these.
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>>385576296
thanks for schooling him for me
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>>385562553
>sound test
>when you could listen to the soundtrack on youtube or DL it from whatever fucking site
>art gallery
>when you can just look at the images online
oh man I sure am missing out on these "important" unlocks
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>>385577776
It's just shitposting
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>>385577259
>If you're saying that it's ok for Nintendo to
He wasn't saying that though. He was just saying that sound test and art gallery are hardly important.
What Nintendo are doing is however most certainly not ok. But the sound test and art gallery are at the same time, certainly not important. These things can both be true at the same time.
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>>385563131
Ah yeah, amiibo content for Splatoon 1 sure "affected sales," didn't it
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>>385577887
>TFW too intelligent for Nu-troid and Nu-tendo
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>>385562553
>buying pointless amiibo shit makes the game more expensive
Yeah, no shit sherlock. In other news, buying a 6 foot tall scale replica of Master Chief's cock makes Halo more expensive.
A part of me wants to believe this is just bait, but I'm pretty sure there are enough people on /v/ with a hate boner for optional content in any form that this is probably genuine.
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>>385572568
At least you are honest.
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>>385578067
>sound test and art gallery are hardly important.
Explain to me how rewards for finishing the game are unimportant, I liked looking through the art gallery in Metroid Prime.
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>>385577596
>>385577887
>>385578092
You know what? That's honestly not even the worst of it. From day 1, amiibos were advertised as a "replacement to DLC". Even though Nintendo said they didn't like doing DLC, this was their way of skirting around it, saying "hey guys, we're gonna do this because it gets us a little extra money, but don't worry, it's not like day 1 DLC or anything. We're not locking content or anything." We were given a bit of an expectation, that as long as they did amiibo content, they wouldn't lock non-cosmetic content behind it, and they wouldn't have to do other kinds of DLC. They'd be content making money off of this. That sounded good, right? Well, now they kinda backtracked on both. With smash brothers for starters, now owning the amiibos doesn't even entitle you to the DLC. You have to buy that separately. Same with Breath of the Wild. You own all the amiibos for it? Too bad, you still have to shovel out 20 bucks for the season pass.

And now we get to Metroid. Now instead of it locking cosmetics, now they have a whole mode of difficulty locked behind it. We have to hope it isn't the only difficulty setting too. And that just raises further suspicions. The original argument was "they won't lock game content behind them." now the goalpost has been shifted, and the argument "it's not alot, just get over it, you're not entitled to it." It's a dangerous slope, and at the least I think people here have a right to be skeptical of what else the Big N has planned. Before you know it, we might start saying "it's only 100 bucks to access all the content. So what if they locked the ending behind the special limited release Samus amiibo? You're not entitled to more than one ending." Just imagine that.
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>>385578297
Let me put it this way.
If the game had been developed. With no amiibos ever announced. And the game had finished development and been released. Without a sound test or art gallery.

There would have been no controversy.
That's because for all while it would have been cool to have, it's by no means "important". And most wouldn't even have questioned it.

Now of course. Now they have that content, and chose to cut it out of the game in order to sell it separately. And that's fucking inexcusable.
But I still can't bring myself to call the sound test and art gallery important.
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>>385578562
>There would have been no controversy.
Do you know why? because the time and effort put into making that content, and then cutting it out, could've been better spent on the game itself. So without those elements, you're getting more game, or at the least, a better game. What can I use as an example here that would best showcase what I'm saying? I know.

>playerunknown battleground
>game is unfinished, buggy, unbalanced, and has a ton of other issues
>the dev could be smart and focus on fixing these issues
>he's not, but instead is implementing loot crates for cosmetics and non-cosmetics if any pay2win game model is to be believed
>the loot crates will further destabilize the game due to adding more code ontop of an already unoptimized product, not unlike TF2 (which is more due to Valve assigning a skeleton crew to it)
>now the game will be further unbalanced and suffer more from its spaghetti code, all for the sake or more money

If you asked any fan of TF2 if they would get rid of every cosmetic in the game in favor of even one new weapon, 90% of them would say yes because that would mean more optimization, less products to optimize, less code to sift through, and less to bugtest. It would also make a more artstyle-coherent product, but that's besides the point. Let me get back to my original point: before you start making DLC and microtransaction-tier content, perhaps you should finish your game in question. That's what alot of people hate about day 1 DLC in the first place. While the game is suffering latency issues online, or framerate issues, the devs don't car.e They're assigning everyone to finish the DLC.
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>>385577259
I'm saying that i don't care about either of them. Stop putting words into the mouth of others.
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>>385578943
I say this as a TF2 fan who loves cosmetics; i would gladly get rid of them in favor of a content-heavy update. I'm still waiting on that pyro update by the way. but we've gotten no less than 3 hat crates while we waited.
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>>385578943
>sound test and art gallery take time and effort
What are you even trying to say?
That day 1 dlc is bad?
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>>385579183
In a way, yes I am. If they waited a couple months before starting the DLC, and put all of their workers into first finishing the game in question, maybe we wouldn't need day 1 patches just for the game to run stable. As it is, every time I purchase a game, I feel like I'm playing an early access product.
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>>385578943
I mean. I agree with the sentiment of your post. I'll just say that sound test and art gallery stuff is almost zero development time. It's pretty much something that one programmer does in between or after other tasks when waiting on others to complete their roles before continuing with something else.
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>>385579331
Wait are we talking about Metroid or PUBG.
Because Nintendo lately has had very good launches.
BotW, Splat2n and Mk8 all launched fairly without a hitch.
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>>385562740
>What do you think it'll lead into microtransactions or something?
This is microtransactions, dipshit. Microtransactions locked behind shitty McDonald's toys.
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>>385565512
>Ah, so you want some proof? Well here is a thing that is no way proof
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>>385579423
We don't quite know, but the point is that they really should be focusing on the game's launch first and then worry about the DLC.

>>385579475
I'm kind of referring to both. BOTW ran terribly until Nintendo released multiple patches for it, same with Mario Kart 8. And Splatoon (the first one) was a barebones early access game that has no content to it. They had to pretend to release free DLC to make up for it, yet in the process they forgot to fix the very large problems, like how map rotations are handled, and the obviously terrible voice chat app that Splatoon requires. And I've heard a myriad of justications for it.

>you don't need voice chat
>it's to keep the children out
>Nintendo is innovating, who cares if it's impractical

To that I simply say: why didn't you use any of the other hundred readily available ways of handling this? If Nintendo didn't want children on the voice chat, perhaps they could've somehow used the parental control settings that the Switch was advertised with? Maybe disable all voice chat unless you're 18 years or older. Would've gotten some fine use out of people who either want to protect their kids, or just don't want to hear voice chat. As for the people saying "you don't need voice" all I can say is that this product was wasted man-hours and development time, not to mention it probably cost them a bit. That could've gone into making the game itself better, maybe have some more content at launch.
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>>385566921
Some people like to support their developers.
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>>385579657
Next thing you'll be telling me that CSGO is p2w because it has microtransactions.
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>>385579743
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>>385579995
CS:GO is full of garbage microtransactions though. Locking sprays behind crate drops? Come on, you gotta admit that's a retarded move.
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>>385562553
Just buy the game. Ignore the rest of that garbage.
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>>385563131
>it will affect sales
Nice joke
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>>385580398
For Mario or Zelda? Not likely. but Metroid is always an outlier. Remember that Fed Force tanked horribly, worse than any other game they've made in the past few years.
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>>385579940
>BotW launch problems
>MK8 lag for like a week
>Splatoon is barebones

Do you even have a switch or are you just pulling these out of your ass?
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>>385580529
so you're claiming that BOTW didn't run at a silky smooth (tm) 20 FPS for its launch? As for MK8, I was talking about its wiiu launch, and yes Splatoon is barebones. Adding a Salmon run does not make up for a terrible singleplayer and lack of maps.
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>>385580469
>keeps using Fed shit as an excuse
Mother fucker nobody wanted that game from the start it was going to bomb, to begin with. Samus Returns will sell over a million or more because the fanbase wants to support the series. The fans are already saying they will just get the game and not the Mcdonald toys.
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>>385580469
Who was Federation Force even marketed to: A co-op shooter entry in a then dead series that doesn't feature the iconic protagonist is going to appeal to whom exactly?

Of course it was going to tank.
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I honestly think the amiibos for this game look cool as shit but I'm sure as shit not buying them if it's going to support this kind of thing. Still getting the base game though.
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>>385562553
I'm still buying the game because I enjoy the series
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>>385580679
BotW ran fine on launch, looking up BotW launch problems gets you pretty much nothing.
Splatoon is a multiplayer game and was a new IP for Nintendo, so i forgive it for having a weak singleplayer.
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>>385580780
>>385580757
If Samus Returns makes the same mistakes as Fed Force, it won't sell in the slightest. Now, you can sing the praises of Sakamoto and Tanabe all you damn well please, but all it takes is them changing one thing too many in pre-release footage or interviews. All they need is literally one cutscene of Samus breaking down crying, or one boring monologue of her talking about how she loves Adam, or one moment where the game is poorly polished. That's all it takes to push a large part of your fandom away.

Also, as a reminder, there were similar sentiments about fed force. "who cares if it doesn't look fun, I'm buying it to support the series". And look how that turned out.
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>>385580679
>so you're claiming that BOTW didn't run at a silky smooth (tm) 20 FPS for its launch?
Not that guy. But no not really. At the very least not with the day 1 patch.
It was mostly restricted to a few select areas. So it was a rare issue.

And then a little bit after the launch they addressed even that.
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>>385581053
>>385581125
see>>385573570

If the game ran perfectly well, then why did it need a day 1 patch?
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>>385581063
Samus Returns is probably the least story orientated Metroid in a series that almost exclusively tells its story through environmental story telling. I'm going to give Sakmoto the benefit of the doubt since he's proven to be GOAT in the past and hope he understands why people did not take well to Other M, plus he's only acting as a producer on this title.
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>>385562553
If they're gonna pull this bullshit, why not at least have a digital store or something where you can buy it there?
They're literally just giving in to scalpers.
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>>385562553
>Planning to get game anyway, sans amiibo
>Already have both versions of Samus
>Don't mind spending extra to get the full collection of amiibo
Honestly I'm hoping for a Ridley when MP4 comes.
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>>385581387
>why not at least have a digital store or something where you can buy it there?
Nintendo has proven time and time again that they don't like money, the mini-NES is a good example.
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>>385581194
Well. The day 1 patch was day 1, wasn't it?
Like I'd argue that day 1 patches is an issue by themselves. But if we're talking how the game ran at launch then that'd obviously be post the day 1 patch as opposed prior the patch when only review copies and demos were out, no?
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>>385581063
It won't Sakamoto is pretty much done with Other M storytelling at this point and from everything I've seen of Samus Returns, it plays like your average 2D Metroid, so it will sell fine.
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>>385581797
Have we seen if walljumping is in and to what degree?
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>>385581476
I often have to ask myself frequently if they are actually retarded.
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>>385567683
It's always bad, nimrod.
Shit like this should be free.
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>>385562553
I never really cared found sound tests or art galleries in games because there's little to no value in them. If I want to listen to the game's music, I will probably pirate it and listen to it on a playlist of other music.
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>>385581645
>But if we're talking how the game ran at launch then that'd obviously be post the day 1 patch as opposed prior the patch when only review copies and demos were out, no?
The problem is that, if you didn't have internet at that moment, and you only had a cartridge, you didn't get that patch. You had to wait. And if you're advocating that you should always be online, then it makes me flash back to that Xbox rep who talked about how always online DRM is a good thing.

>>385581797
We're being told to literally trust gameplay footage they cherrypicked to make the game look good. We don't have a guarantee that Sakamoto won't throw his weight around for more baby analogies and crying Samus fee-fees.
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>>385581931
When they were getting help setting up live features, the Nintendo people in the room asked the people helping them to stop referencing Xbox Live and PlayStation Network because they have never used them and were completely unfamiliar with their features.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-secret-developers-wii-u-the-inside-story
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This is a sad, bad thread.
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>>385581476
My assumption when it comes to the NES-mini is simply that they had spare stock or something from discontinuing the vanilla Wii or whatever. And figured that they could throw together a holiday novelty for one season while using said stock and thus set a limited production in motion. Likely not expecting that it would be such a huge hit.

And then it became a massive success. But they had only produced a limited run to begin with.
And then when they caught wind of the success. Instead of printing more NES-minis after that whole thing had already ran its course. They started to produce the SNES-mini instead (which is more expensive mind you).

So it looks like they were simply unaware and cauhgt off guard with the NES-mini and now when they've had time to react they're capitalizing on it instead with the SNES-mini.
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>>385582335
There is literally nothing important that happens in Metroid II except Samus meeting the baby Metroid, I don't think there's a whole lot Sakamoto can do with that.
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>>385581886
Yes in one of the latest IGN playthrough videos when they fight Arachnus, the player does a double wall jump off the wall like in Super and Zero Mission.

>>385582335
The fact that Samus won't be taking her suit off in this game should say something.
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Sound Test and Art Gallery are not important in the slightest. You can get any of that stuff once people put it online.
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>>385582335
>The problem is that, if you didn't have internet at that moment, and you only had a cartridge, you didn't get that patch.
Yeah. As I said. Day 1 patches are an issue onto themselves.
But for discussion about a game runs I'd still assume the patches are installed.
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>>385582515
>>385582541
You would think that Sakamoto wouldn't have alot to work with, but don't forget that this is how he viewed the ending confrontation in Super Metroid. And I'm sorry in advance for linking this piece of garbage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipM8_b5N6DQ

>the sentiment expressed through actions isn't enough, we need the baby metroid to talk and Samus to cry, gotta get those oscar-worthy emotional moments in!

Don't forget about the magic of retcons. Even though Sakamoto consideres the Prime series canon, for example, his writing affinity definitely forgot about those games, if Other M's story is to be believed.

>>385582597
>But for discussion about a game runs I'd still assume the patches are installed.
It's still an issue though especially when multiple areas still run like crap, like the korok forest. Really, 30 FPS shouldn't be hard for a dev like Nintendo. This shouldn't have been an issue period.
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>>385562553
>important :sound test
>important :art gallery
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