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Open beta and the game only gets 3000-4000 players. Release is next week.

Game has already bombed.
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Not surprising, it isn't fun to play.
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>Nexon game bombing
Good.
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I live in South East Asia.

My only two options for servers were Korea or OCE, both with about 200 ping.

Yeah it's not happening.
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>>385551761
Maybe u should just git gud
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>>385553261
maybe you should get better taste in games, only funny thing was dashing with knife at it gets old pretty quick after you notice how horrible balanced game is and how quick it will die
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>>385551695
>NEXON

into the trash it goes
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>>385551695
Arena shooters, especially purely skill based ones without progression systems, is a really hard sell in todays market. The genre just has so much competition and, this game in particular, didn't have a Blizzard-sized marketing push with trailers and character focused shorts etc.
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Played half a match, it was really fun until it got old and then I uninstalled
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>>385553716
It won't sell because of Overwatch.

Blizzard knew exactly what they were doing when they designed OW and its characters. They knew cute, sexy waifus would sell.
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>>385551695
Wooooow it's another TF2/Overwatch/Paladins/Dirty Bomb clone, JEEZ I wonder why it's bombing. Why do gamers have such shit taste?
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>>385554001
It won't sell because it's not that fun, no one outside of 4chan and reddit care about "waifus".
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>>385551779
>>385553564
>Yeah, this isn't made by *insert company who paid me to write this post* so it's shit!
$0,05 have been deposited into your bank account
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>>385554424
>what are the million overwatch fandom blogs
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>>385554696
>defending nexon
you need to drop dead
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>>385554802
Let me put it a better way, normal people don't care.
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>>385554696
You chinks are pretty defensive over Nexon. Can't stand getting beat by superior Western companies?
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What the fuck is LawBreakers?

Reminds me of a scene from Magic Mike.
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>>385551761
Pretty much this. It holds its own merits, but it's nothing impressive. Or maybe it's just me getting older and newer games just do not impress me anymore.
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It's my GOTY so far tbqhwyf
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meanwhile a good f2p fps gets released.
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>>385555653
is it actually good?
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>>385551695
so who does cliff blame when the game tanks? would this game have had a better chance if it were on the xbox? cliff being the gears golden boy i imagine there are people who'd have been more willing to buy the game for his name alone.
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>>385555653
BLACKED
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>>385551695
I wanted it to be good but every character feels not fun to play. The shooting actually reminds me of gears of war because all guns are fucking useless at long range so you might as well just avoid people until you're close to them.

The only decent-ish feeling character was the rocket propelled class with the chain gun. The marksman character with two pistols that you fire with left click and right click is honestly on of the most retarded things i've ever seen in an fps.
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>>385555906
I bet they are talking already with Xbox to port the game. It's the dudebroest hero shooter out there.
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WE WUZ LAWBREAKAS AND SHIET
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Game is pretty fun, and 30 dollar sounds like a decent price compared to most other games that ask for 50-70 dollars.

I just fear that the game will quickly die like Brink did.
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>>385555849
i find it very good, but maybe only if youve had enough of csgo, like me. its a neat mix of 1.6 and Cod 4 i would say. there is absolutely no p2w, the graphics are good but it also runs on toasters. the gameplay is very smooth and fast paced, almost like an arena shooter. the weapon mechanics are also fairly arcady but there is also a lot of skill needed to do well. the game is actually played in korea as an esport, there is certainly room for competitiveness.

it takes a little getting used to the feel of it but then its fun.
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Watching some gameplay of it and it seems like pure shit.
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>>385551695
Good, that faggot CliffyB deserves a failure.
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>>385555906
I am >>385556273 this guy, and this game was 100% made for consoles. Taking emphasis away from accuracy and putting it onto movement is a dead giveaway that this is meant for the console market. The movement is all boring no-skill shit too, the skill ceiling is too low it's basically one step above dashing in call of duty.
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>>385556601
This is the most obvious shill post I've ever seen on this site. Cliffy pls go.
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>>385556593
I enjoyed Brink quite a bit in that first month or two before it completely crashed
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>>385551695
>>>385555906
>I am >>385556273 this guy, and this game was 100% made for consoles.
Holy shit, you are retarded.
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>>385551695
is this the new battleborn?
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>>385556982
He isn't talking about Lawbreakers. Dumb fuck.
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>>385556982
the game got 9k players and its f2p, do you really need someone to convince you to at least try it? you dont even have to make an account or anything, just start it.
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>>385557049
i was only asking a question. the game is on the ps4 and i'd bet it makes plenty of money there. Im just asking if it would stand a better chance on xbox with cliff's history on the console. i mean if you look at any games sales between the ps4 and xbox, sony's sales aren't that much higher considering they have double the console sales.
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>>385557049
Back2leddit4um80
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>>385556982
Are you actually retarded?
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>>385556273
>Vanguard is the best role
Did you even play more than 2 minutes?
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I haven't played it. I can't be assed. It looks so incredibly generic I can hardly put it into words. I mean not even in a "haha it's an Overwatch ripoff" kinda way but just in general, these fucking team based shooters, you know the entire hype starting with Titanfall and Evolve, I get they all have unique ideas but the general thing that happens every game is the same. You jump in, get paired with random goons, have the mechanics and guns and voices and everything set up to make the game seem like an exciting spectacle even when everyone including you plays like utter shit. Like they usually have simplified executional requirements, and rubberbanding of some sort, and a grandiose aesthetic where you're a very important cog in an epic battle and what not. This style of game is the epitome of a casual experience, and I say that in a way that's not supposed to sound demeaning whatsoever. They're designed to make you feel powerful and important, from the get go, even though it's a competitive multiplayer experience. And then everyone acts like it's really hardcore competitive stuff and gets worked up over it and goes on about why their game is way more hardcore than all the others...

It kinda baffles me studios still pour millions into projects like these, they don't reaaaally do much innovating and the market is way oversaturated with similar titles all battling for the same audience.
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>>385553393
Ur just bad I play juggernaut and go positive most rounds
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>>385557993
This isn't your blog, brah
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>>385558465
It's almost as if it's a board for video game discussion.
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>>385557993
what annoys me about these type of games is how overdesigned everything is. the map looks like a clusterfuck of colors and effects and every character is a landscape of unnecessary details that dont add anything to their personality of playstyle.
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>>385556593
>there will never be a Brink Except Finished On Release So It Doesn't Die Immediately
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>>385558547
It's almost like no one cares about what you say if you haven't played the game.
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>>385551695
Titanfall on PC has 5200 right now.
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>>385558930
Doesn't that have a free weekend right now?
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>>385558810
You know I thought commenting on why I assume this game does not do a good job of reigning players in, drawing from my experience with genre contemporaries, was fair game even if I haven't played it. In retrospect I realize prefacing my thoughts with that info was naive and I should just have done what every one else does on /v/ and pretend I've played it instead
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>>385559158
fair enough.
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>>385559183
Or you should play it
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Quake Champs is free and dead as fuck, too. not saying it isn't fun, just broken and dead
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it has unique ideas and was fun to play. but it didnt have the marketing of ow or the prior following of tf2.
And retarded contrarians chose paladins, which makes ow play like chess in comparison, so its going to boom.
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There is no marketing at all. A lot of my friends for example have never heard of it until I told them about the open beta on Steam.
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>>385560070
Yep, this is a huge problem.
They better start buying scores.
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>>385551695
All these fucking games are a year late to the party or two years too early for it. If they had come out like, half a year before overwatch things would be different, but now, overwatch has completely taken over the FPS scene and these kinds of games just don't pull enough weight, unfortunately.
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>>385558752
Titanfall 2 is GoodBrink
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>>385559672
wait, the new quake is released already? Only played in one beta and had enough then
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>>385558752
Just play dirty bomb so you don't have to climb over terrain all the time.
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>>385560646
it is 24/7 now
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>>385556601
>no p2w,

Doesn't that game have gun rentals/buying? Thats literally pay to win.
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>>385559672
>UT comes back
>goes free beta
>dead as fuck, nobody ever talks about it anymore, forgotten it even exists

>quake comes back
>goes free beta
>dead as fuck
>nobody ever talks about it

Weird. At least UT4 is fun
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>>385561272
It boils down to bad marketing. I had barely heard of lawbreakers, and the most I've seen of quake champions makes it look like a fucking overwatch clone which made me lose my interest almost instantly.
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>>385555653
Just tried this game, feels like combat arms.

Dead within a month
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The only F2P shooter I like is Dirty Bomb 2bh
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is this a game about the justice system
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>>385560581
>titanfall 2
>good

titanfall 1 was better, sometimes less is more
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Do we have out next betaborn?
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There is literally no space for another of these kind of shooters untill overwatch fucks off.
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>>385561272
UT didn't come back, Epic released an alpha and told the internet to complete it for them.
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>>385554696
most game companies are fucking shit thought
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>>385557046
same. fun fact, what killed brink was absolutely zero support. bethesda could've easily opted even for basic support and it would've turned out fine - or just put in proper mod support, bethesda knows all to well how easy it is to coast on having the community fix your shit.

I actually played it recently just for fun (dat damn soundtrack stuck in my head for a reason), and it's hilarious that all the shit people complained 5 years ago are now almost completely in overwatch which sold fucking millions - but it has waifus and is from blizzard, so it's totally ok!
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He tried to literally release a zombie game in 2015. It got canceled after only making a trailer. He is incompetent.
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Played the first beta and I hated it
I hope it does bomb, fuck you Cliff
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>Cliff BLESZINKSI made a huge fucking deal over this shit at the PC E3 show
>"THE GAME WILL LAUNCH AT 30 DOLLARS, NONE OF THIS 60 DOLLAR MULTIPLAYER BULLSHIT"
>Set up to bomb horribly
Overwatch clones: Not even once.
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>>385561272
>>385562663

doesn't help that they try to cater to practically every UT fag from 99 to 3 in one go.
why not just have 2-3 types via mutators and polish these to properly offer something for everybody? fucking hate the "one size fits all" approach the industry is doing these days...
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>>385562747
Brink was utterly broken for half the graphics cards on the market and I don't even know if it ever got patched.
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You just can't have a class system with distinct characters without getting accused of being an OW clone and ignored before anyone even knows anything else about the game.
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>>385553716
>Arena shooters, especially purely skill based ones without progression systems
>so much competition

eh? almost everything these days is a casualized shitfest with skinner box mechanics to keep people grinding.
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>Overwatch clone
kiddies need to take their hands off the keyboard.
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>>385563337
>Implying Cliffy wasn't hungering for that Overwatch dosh when he was making this game
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Overwatch is already garbage.
Why would you make a significantly worse game and expect anything whatsoever?
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>>385563189

There doesn't seem to be a good combo system with Lawbreaker's characters though. Most players just pick whoever and do their own thing.

On top of that, it seems like Lawbreakers gives less of a shit about story than Overwatch does. No character banter or origin bio, nothing.
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>>385563186
mainly on ati, played it fine on one ati myself. I think consoles had some severe lag issues too.

iirc the technical stuff was fixed pretty soon, but was already too late.
what I meant was gameplay, shit that keeps people playing (when they can run the game); 2 of 3 body types were completely pointless, gun balance was so shit it turned into carb-9: the game, some maps were way too lopsided for certain teams etc.
basically all shit that could've been fixed, especially with mods, the game itself was good enough that it could've found an audience.
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Literally who the game.

There has been next to no marketing for it, do people even know it exists?
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>>385563620
They also seem to not care about the characters being gay (Tracer) or autistic (Symmetra).
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I watched the trailer and my nope levels went off the chart
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>>385563716
I only found out about it just now, thanks to this thread.
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>>385563620
Because the classes are not designed to combo at all. The core design is that you can pick whatever you want and do fine. The balance is fucked though so even that doesn't work.
The characters have some bio but it all seems to be on the official youtube page for some reason.

It's all a big mistake in the end.
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What part of it is like Overwatch again?
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Does that mean the whacky team shooter market is finally oversaturated and the industry can move on to something else?
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>>385563216
Skill based shooters have so much general competition from other genres. Back when Q3 and UT were really kicking off the 3D arena shooter genre there wasn't much else around. Some MMOs and MUDs, some people were still playing duke3d and doom MP but Q3 and UT were in a class of their own, especially online. Today, there are a thousand MMOs, shooters and dota clones all competing for the, more or less, same audience. Breaking into that and be successful will be a more than just difficult task especially since the game doesn't look like it has anything unique going for it.
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>>385564278
It won't move anywhere until Overwatch dies, which won't happen for a long time.
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>>385564186
the point is its anti overwatch and fails at it
its called fucking lawbreakers
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>>385564381
Can you answer the question?
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>>385563959
What? Where is this mentioned in the game?
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>>385564486
Tracer was confirmed to have a girlfriend in a comic. Symmetra has a form of autism.
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>>385564327
It's especially hard for arena shooters because the audience is hardcore autistic and won't accept deviations from the formula.
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>>385564364
>>It won't move anywhere until Overwatch dies
That won't take long. Korea's moved onto PUBG.
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>>385563017
>that they try to cater to practically every UT fag from 99 to 3 in one go
>that they try
>try
They don't try, they're just doing whatever it's not UT.
Does nonade rocket launcher (something that has been in since UT99), no bio rifle, still no ripper, shitty grenade launcher no one asked for, no head armor and an overheat bar on link gun sounds like UT to you?
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>>385564327
that's just the normal competition for player time/attention every game has to deal with.

my point was skill-based shooters don't fare well since the demographic for it is niche to begin with, the little competition there is just fighting over scraps.
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>>385551695
Those who aren't playing TF2 any more are playing OW.
Those who aren't playing OW any more are playing Paladins.
The rest plays Dirty Bomb or whatever the fuck there is.
This party is saturated as fuck, and LB is too late to it.
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>>385551695
>cliffyb
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>>385551695
It doesn't even have enough players on ps4 right now to get a match going apparently. Yesterday was fine.
In all honesty I played for about 2 hours yesterday and saw all I needed to. I'd bet most reviews will say that it has some neat idea but it doesn't have enough of an identity for itself. Takes ideas from other games but doesn't have enough original ideas.
>tl;dr: in a word, meh.
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>>385565218
Been playing Gigantic
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>/v/ has gotten so absolutely retarded as to consider any and all shooters released in the past 10 years as the exact same thing
HURR DOTA N LOL AN SMITE R ALL DA SAEM
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>>385554923
>sex doesn't sell
>he thinks waifus are just an internet thing
How can someone be so literally wrong?
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>>385564907
haven't played it ages, but back then it was a hodgepodge of different pieces with not clear direction.
they just need to decide on one version, make it a blatant copy of 99/2k4(maybe even 3) to get people in the boat, then go from there. they completely forget every UT was "complete" game, if you wanted more you either modded it yourself or played one of the dozen others.
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>>385561272
Both companies think they have enough fans to not release on steam. Both are wrong. Also UT have literally zero marketing. I haven't heard about it since they announced early open alpha or something.
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post yfw no white male characters
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>>385565882
2/2
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>>385565882

the cops dont the breakers have Faust and Cronos
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>>385565882
It takes place in the future. White people are far less common because of interracial breeding and white people not having babies.
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>>385565882
>>385565968
im not joking
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>>385566094
>>385565882
>>385565968
moar
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>>385566094
>>385566191
>>385565882
>>385565968
and this is an issue because.....?
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>>385565882
>>385565968
>Nexon Co., Ltd. is a South Korean global leader in online games
>all characters are either black or asian
really makes you think, huh. It's like they plan on selling it in korea and china or something.
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>>385565882
>>385565968

Thanks for pointing that out. I won't buy the game now.
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>>385551695

No one cares about arena shooters anymore, and with good reason, they're shit.
They're repetitive boring garbage for twitchy 14 year olds, and they have no substance.

They're good to play at a LAN party with a bunch of friends once a year. That's it.
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>>385566091
dont worry. White people aren't going anywhere.
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>>385564581
Which shrinks the audience even more. Doing well in a SP game is rather easy, doing well in a game like CoD or Overwatch only takes time but since you're unlocking shit the whole skinner box keeps you hooked, but doing well in an arena shooter where the only thing that helps you to get better is improving your own skill(aim, weapon/power up spawn, map sense) through playing and there is nothing that strings you along. If the gameplay alone doesn't hook you, you will drop the game in a couple days at most.

If the gameplay was good, the kills were satisfying and the design/characters were memorable the game would profit immensely from a casual mode from which players then move on to a more hardcore competitive mode.

>>385565189
Not really, fans of story driven AAA RPGs generally don't really play competitive MP games, especially not arena shooters and vice versa, at least not in a way that they stick with that game for weeks or months and actually be part of the regular playerbase or even community.
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>>385566313
Asians HAAAATE black people though.
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>>385566295
The game is not diverse enough
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>>385551695

>Cliff Bazinga
>Nexon
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>>385566328
>>385566191
>>385566094
jfc.... what the hell is wrong with people these days
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>Cliffy B being a complete fuckup over and over
All is right in the world
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>>385554696
He's right though Nexon is a horrible company, I gave up on them after they turned Combat Arms into a pay to win CoD knockoff with zombies.
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>>385566416
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LawBreakers
The designer and director are white though
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>>385565403
Oh yeah, knew I forgot one. TBF it was Windows Store exclusive for a long time, and hit Steam only recently. It looks semi-popular, but not really.
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post some gameplay please
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even gigantic is doing better than this
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>>385566328
Dunno, Head 3 looks like a very tan cunt with bleached hair.. that counts as white, right?
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>>385566587
>Nexon

I don't even know what this game is but I can already smell the doomsday.
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>>385566852
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w3006HyyN4
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>>385566756
Oh so they are SJWs, multiculturual cucks. Yeah, not buying this game.
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>>385565882
The dual wielding guy here is actually white, the shading is just shit.

>>385565968
The masked guy here is also white.
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>>385566919
They admitted that there were no presets with white skins, plus you could not choose white skin in customization. They had to add that in a patch a few weeks after release.
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>>385554696
>defending nexon while simultaneously calling everyone else a shill

woah
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>>385565240
>ps4
I can't imagine how horribly shitty this game would be on a control stick or even a translated mouse
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>>385567054
No point, anon. Red pilled white pride fags just looking for a reason to be triggered.
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>>385567054
The Juggs are also white. They uploaded their minds to overcome the limits of flesh and blood.

>>385567205
It's ass. No one can aim for shit so you can run around as the heavy classes and just fuck people up.
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>>385567253
projecting hard
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>>385567178
Just when I thought Bioware couldn't surprise me any more with their inadequacy
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>>385567306
Am I?
>Oh so they are SJWs, multiculturual cucks. Yeah, not buying this game.
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>>385567531
So what? That's a valid reason not to buy the game. People boycott different shit all the time because of their opinions or political views, why is it different with vidya?
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>>385567512
And because of said inadequacy, they have put Mass Effect on ice, which means there will never be any more Mass Effect. Andromeda failed so badly that they won't even release any DLCs. It was supposed to bring ME back to its glory but instead it because its end.
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>>385566361
>current popular FPS games
>not repetitive boring garbage for twitchy 14 year olds with no substance.
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>>385567656
Do you forget about all prior posts every time you write a new one?
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are there atleast any cute girls?
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>>385567785
Well, is it wrong if I'm glad it's on ice? I fucking hate ME3 with a burning passion and I will still never stop being mad about it, but this somehow pleases me.
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>>385555653

>upgraded version of Skill 2
>actually feels and plays worse

headshots in the game suck, movement sucks, guns are wierd. this game is fucking ASS.
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>>385567951
yeah >>385566094
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>>385567979
I'm glad too. Andromeda should never have happened, but thankfully it helped putting the final nail in the coffin.
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>>385568042
n-none of those were cute, that might have been a nice asian girl without that horrid hair I guess.
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>>385568172
Racist shitlord.
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>>385567656
I don't know, sound like this anon and many other are really triggered over this non-issue.
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Give it time imbecile. It has trash like Overshit to deal with. Fucking hell you're a mong
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>>385567951
Not really. The only one that comes close is in the middle here >>385565882
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>>385566542
What do you mean? Not enough white people so it's not diverse?
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>>385566406
>fans of story driven AAA RPGs generally don't really play competitive MP games
there's a lot of overlap, just look at overwatch ranked with it's horde of casual shitters that think they're the next MLG god.

>not in a way that they stick with that game for weeks or months and actually be part of the regular playerbase or even community.
that's what I mean, the demographic was never big to begin with and isn't attractive to the horde of casuals that play these days. since games are a business it makes no sense to have AAA or even AA cater to a niche that will never generate enough profit to even brake even (same issues other genres have these days, RTS for example).

>If the gameplay was good, the kills were satisfying and the design/characters were memorable the game would profit immensely from a casual mode from which players then move on to a more hardcore competitive mode.
except gameplay these days is fucking worse than most arena shooters, why do you think everything has fucking progression these days? most people don't play for fun, they play to grind, gameplay be damned.
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>>385566756
You guys are more sensitive than the groups you hate it's funny.
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games with no marketing whatsoever and online only cannot survive. you'd think cliffy b of all people would understand this.
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>>385566610
don't forget shitting on pc players and now crawling back..
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>>385567512
to be fair, "white" is going extinct anyway, by the time of mass effect we're all various shades of brown (and balder)
bioware is just shit enough to push an agenda
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>>385568390
Time is literally the only thing that kills online games. Games that are forgotten on launch, are forgotten no matter how much the devs work on it.

Time didn't save Battleborn or Evolve.
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played two rounds. hated it. it looks and runs like ass on PS4.
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>>385568549
>most people don't play for fun, they play to grind, gameplay be damned.
I've been in every closed and open test for For Honor and love the gameplay but dropped the game 1 week after release because i realized that, while the gameplay was really good, the game had nothing else to offer. The SP was the definition of tacked on, i only really liked one character and the netcode issues then finally killed my interest in the game and i can see the same happening to other people in other games.
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>all these "it won't sell because it's not fun"
how delusional ARE you people? some of the most popular games are the most boring shit ever. you know why they're successful? because they have a name behind them
this game won't sell because it's a literally who title (sorry to say, but CliffyB is mostly unheard of nowadays) released after multiple other class/hero-based shooters, and despite it being more fun than any of them except TF2, you have to be good at the game to have fun with it. And even then, there's Quake Champions which is free to play.
Regardless of the quality of the game, it just has zero momentum.
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>>385569630
Just because you don't like something doesn't mean other people can't. You really think OW was popular just because it's Blizzard? All of my console OW friends got into because they enjoyed the game and Blizzard is no where near as popular with console gamers.

>TF2, you have to be good at the game to have fun with it.

Not at all, I was always awful at TF2 and still enjoyed it.
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>generic as fuck art direction
>every character is an edgelord devoid of any personality
>maps are Overwatch tier, fucking tiny and with a grand total of 2-3 different routes
>no game modes except CTF and KotH
>CTF revolves around fast characters suicide rushing the flag across the map in 5 seconds and scoring
>KotH has a retarded 3-hill system with one hill in the center and two hills in each team's respective spawns, spawn hills are a basically guaranteed capture for the defending team
>game touted as being "fast", but maps are tiny and the only way to actually move fast is as one of the two designated Sanic characters or in the designated gravity-free zone
>even then moving fast is only possible in a straight line, so it's completely pointless because tracking people moving in a straight line is something anyone with a mouse can do
>not one but two melee assassin characters to appeal to the aimless LoL players

F2P within half a year.
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>>385551695
Is it me or does like every single multiplayer game bomb nowadays except for a select few
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>>385569885
>You really think OW was popular just because it's Blizzard?
Absolutely. There was no way it WOULDN'T sell.

>Not at all, I was always awful at TF2 and still enjoyed it.
you read the post wrong. I was saying you have to be good at Lawbreakers to enjoy it. Which is a HUGE barrier and has been the bitter end of multiple games.
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>>385569149
>Time is literally the only thing that kills online games.

that would be no mod support. cs and tf2 would be fucking dead without user created content.
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>>385570120
every game without a bigger marketing budget than development to generate hype bombs these days. same as movies.
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>>385570178
>using Valve's most played games as an example
Mod support keeps games alive for longer, but the lack of mod support doesn't mean it dies. CoD, Destiny etc. are still alive without mod support and I'm sure there's plenty of others too.

Time kills the game either way, mods only prolong the inevitable.
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>>385570307
This
Marketing is everything. A game could be God's own creation and the mass populace wouldn't even know it until years later because it was never marketed and flopped in sales.
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>>385570393
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>>385570446
>CoD, Destiny etc. are still alive without mod support and I'm sure there's plenty of others too.

only because activision pumps enough money into marketing.

not to mention "killing" is relative, even now you can still find a bf2 server to play on. try that with a new cod or destiny in 10 years. and those were successful games, stuff that bombed will be dead even sooner.
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>>385553716
ITS NOT A FUCKING ARENA SHOOTER IS A MOBA MEME FPS

Arena shooters
>Quake
>Halo
>Unreal Tournament
>equal starts, about controlling map through power ups and weapons

>MOBA meme FPS
>Overwatch
>Paladins
>Lawbreakers
>characters all play different, infinite ammo, about team composition and knowing when to use ultimate abilities to turn tide
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>>385571424
>i don't know what i'm talking about: the post
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>>385570779
This is a very good point anon
Let's take a look at these

Lawbreakers
>another entry in an already tired out genre
>dev is mostly unheard of
>almost no marketing outside of E3

PUBG
>uncontested within its genre
>lead dev is the pioneer of the genre
>played by multiple top streamers which acts as free advertising
and despite the fact that it's optimized like shit, in early access ,and regarded as a generally bad game by most of /v/, it's still the most successful game to come out since overwatch.
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>>385571424
You know what MOBA stands for right?
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>>385571392
>you can still find a bf2 server to play on
Yes, fans launched new servers 10 years after release. Officially the game is dead and this is basically saying Vanilla WoW is alive because half assed private servers still draw people in.

CoD is still alive because they have an established franchise that holds a loyal fanbase. New IPs don't have this luxury and have to go either full-Destiny to achieve that status, or die.

Time kills everything and the only way to have something alive, is to pump out a new one every once in a while.
CoD is actually a bad example here because it's alive through multiple variations of the same formula since CoD2, but you get the idea. Everything dies in time and as in life, you have to make babies for your bloodline to survive.
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>>385554001
retard, overwatch has player retention because it babies the fuck out of everybody who plays. also even if you're shit you can still press buttons and do flashy moves, or hold a shield and block damage with no effort, or stun somebody, or hit your special move and kill 3 people for free. lots of no effort feel good shit in overwatch.
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The game has multiple capture the "flag" gamemodes like uplink and blitzball and I cannot get over how after the "flag" is dropped you have to wait like 10 seconds before anybody is able to grab it again. This is especially unsatisfying in uplink when the enemy takes the uplink to their base, your team kills most the enemies defending and the enemy team continues to respawn on top of the uplink before you can get a chance to grab it.

Seems very counter-intuitive to have a timer on "flags" in a game so heavily centered around fast movement and movement-based abilities.
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>>385572084
It's so that high mobility heroes like wraith, assassin, and Vanguard can't just swoop in and ollie out in 5 seconds.
However I do agree that it takes way too long as is
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>Nexon
developers never learn do they, Nexon is awful at advertising games, look at what they've done to Dirty Bomb and Ghost in the Shell
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>>385554424
>no one outside of 4chan and reddit care about "waifus".
This is what fags actually believe.

The game doesn't have cute girls so I won't even pick it up.
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>>385572521
And Dota in Korea
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>>385571972
>Officially the game is dead and this is basically saying Vanilla WoW is alive because half assed private servers still draw people in.

hardly comparable, also try to run a post WOTLK server. the fact alone that you can still play it means it will never be fully dead (unless you're one of those people that count dead as WAH MATCHMAKING TAKES MORE THAN A MINUTE).

new games will be literally dead (including destiny) not because of time, simply because the publisher wants you to buy the new game. gl trying to play darkspore now.

>the only way to have something alive, is to pump out a new one every once in a while.
can't wait for battlefield 5 which is basically battlefield 3.8889. technical advances are getting smaller and smaller, there's already no reason to not extend a game's lifetime - but that doesn't generate money. the only think killing games in the future is publishers having absolute control over every aspect ("mod support" didn't really fit, but you get what I mean).
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Since ME:A I know the following rule:
If there is no good white female and white male, the game is shit.

Most SJW are radical leftist terrorist who are racist against white people. Fuck this scum
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>>385551695
I didn't even know this was having a beta weekend

I think they did a really shitty job advertising this game honestly
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>>385551695
>market already saturated with those hero based arena shooters
>release more of them
Genius.
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Something about it feels off. I feel like with one more competent person on the team and they could have had a good game. It'll go f2p pretty quick.
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Mediocre.
nexon NA is a cancerous company but this game hasn't even been touched by their greediness considering literally all nexon did was give them funding, servers are hosted through bosskey, gameplay elements have been designed entirely by boss key, even the microtransaction model was entirely blizza- I mean boss key.

The game is just too close to overwatch, but with a speedboost. Also wraith is still fucking retardedly broken on PS4, every match is 3-4 wraiths and a gunslinger. Fun ideas for modes, but they're all functionally identical. Grab object in middle, bring to point, dunk and repeat. Even batteries and uplinks. Almost never will you find an enemy team coordinating to get them back because if the defenders have any ounce of competence to them when it's locked in it's there, done, gonezo, give up the point. Blitzball is the exception but the shot clock only ticking down if the same team picks it up means that it's impossible to recover, and means it's usually a safer option to NOT pick it up if your teammate dropped it, and instead let it expire to better prepare for an assault on the spawn point.

I've made these points known to the devs since the alpha two years ago, and very little has been done to remedy it. I keep playing because I like the core idea of the gameplay being a faster overwatch, cause good lord overwatch is a fucking slog, and the zero G combat is the tits, but when you pile on mechanics that aren't designed to fit your game instead a proper arena shooter without characters that can literally protect themselves in a bubble for the entire duration of a battery/uplink/ball's shield with no way to combat them unless you want to run in to their playing ground, it falls apart.

5/10, maybe even 4/10 on ps4 because it's going to be an example of a game that's focused entirely on PC and has the console release end up as some sort of contractual obligation and leads to an absolutely pissed playerbase.
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That's about 2700 more than what Battleborn got post-release, Randy :^)
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AAA devs fucking suck at making esports
the only ones who've managed are Valve and that's cause they just straight up cloned dota
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>>385575746
valve did jack shit, they just hired icefrog. same way they hired part of the CS team. and the only reason they did it in the first place was to milk it (there was a lot of hype already)
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>>385575746
why did you feel the need to bring up esports
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>>385554696
How much did they pay you for counter-shilling
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>>385572316
The way to solve the fast people swooping in is kill them.
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>>385576963
This isn't tribes anon :(
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Why can't I pick a game mode
Why isn't there a real tutorial and not pointless videos
Why is matchmaking so slow
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>>385577113
Tribes deserves to not be dead. ree
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>>385555173
>>385562739
>>385566754
>>385567204
>>385576704
>>385554892
>tfw don't even know what Nexon is or what they did wrong, just made that post to bait people
>It actually worked
Cool. What did they do wrong though?
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