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Why aren't you playing DQXI on your 3DS?

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Why aren't you playing DQXI on your 3DS?
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I don't like boring grindan games
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>>385543067
cause im bored of playing the same fucking jrpgs over and over
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>>385543067
Because when you played 3, 5 and 8 then you've played them all already.
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>>385543067
Because I'm playing it on my PS4 without getting eye cancer from the pixels. And when I want to play it comfy in bed or on the shitter I do so per PS4 Remoteplay™ on my Vita.

Thats why.
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>>385543178
Take that back
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>>385543213
>>385543225
>>385543229
fair enough
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>>385543067
Is this one an MMO?
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If anything I'd get the PS4 version.
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>>385543067
Playing IX as my very first one
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>>385543067
I won't play that generic RPG#37433.

I will play miitopia instead, at least that game have some comedy.
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>>385543067
i want this art style but without the shitty 240p resolution
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>>385544729
Oh wow, I didn't know Candlejack has brot
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Because I don't want to play mainline games in a language I don't understand. I have played some spinoffs, however. Still holding out on Joker 3 Pro coming out.
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>>385545181
Joker 3 Pro is being fantranslated, as well as DQM2 Remake.
I have it on good authority that one of them will definitely come out this year, maybe both even.
CFW only though.
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>>385543302
>He has to grind to beat bosses

Why so casual?
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Watched a nip play this for an hour. Is there any point in being able to move around during battles?
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I haven't hacked my 3DS, it isn't translated yet and I will be buying the game to support more localizations.

>>385545838

In Dragon Quest X, there was some skills that required positioning, characters could block damage if they stood in the way of skills (thinking tanking) and you could push enemies. Don't know if DQXI has these things.
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Can I make my own party, or is it you get given existing guys again?
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>>385543067
I don't want to get banned for playing it.
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>>385543067
The A button is a bit fucked up on my 3ds and jrpgs have so much shitty exposition/dialogue that Its even less fun to play them than normal.
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>>385546351

it's a preset team like 8

you don't have to use the hero though
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Is there a translation or even a menu patch in the works yet
I don't even need a hack, I'll take a fuckin script if I have to
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>>385546539
>that spoiler

that's literally playing the games wrong son
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>>385543067
When is out on ps4?
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>>385543067
>>385544729
>there are people who prefer the handheld game in comparison to the PS4 game
I just

>>385547120
Sometime in 2018. Localization was just announced yesterday. No further details about the port at all right now.
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>>385547868
>Sometime in 2018. Localization was just announced

oh sweet, glad i wont have to blunder about in moonrunes
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Can anyone who reads japanese give the gist of the intro? The text goes by too fast for me to read it and roughly get the gist.
I just wanna know what the old men were talking about.
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>>385547945

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F32dNXklp2E
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>>385548014
They were saying that newborn baby was promised and there was no mistake because he had that birth mark.
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>>385548106

Fuck you chen. Don't make me come over there and- Oh wait.
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>>385544729
Oh god it looks so good.

I have to WAIT A FUCKING YEAR FOR THIS
WHY THE FUCK HAVENT I LEARNT JAPANESE
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Puff Puff
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Is it out on eShop yet?
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PC port when?
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>>385548609

Puffu puffu
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ost is so bad my god....reused sfx and shitty music...atleast the open world looks amazing
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PC when
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Oh, look, another goku, another trunks, another bulma. More generic toriyama designs.
I bought 7 and 8, I might emulate 4, 5 and 6
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>>385550084
>DQH2 lets you get puff puff from all party members
>Switch version has exclusive Ragnar puff puff
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>>385543067
Because I'm waiting for the localized PS4 version to have the best possible experience.
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>>385552108

Pink is the manliest color.
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>>385543213
I'd call you out on this if it wasn't dragon quest
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>>385543067
Because it's not out in english.
Plus I'm on 11.1 emuNAND and don't want to upgrade to whatever the hell you need for 11.4.
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>>385543213

Meanwhile, after shit like FFXIII and XV, Japan is actually clamoring for a traditional MMO. And people in the west want Dragon Quest VIII-2. So really Yuji Horii has a better idea on what JRPG fans want then you do.
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>>385550084
>>385548609

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDOUCOTg1-o
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>>385552746
Wait dies it require 11.4?
Fugg
I've been on /justwerks/ 11.2 a9lh since i got the thing
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I LOVE EMA'S ARM THRUST SO MUCH I DREW IT
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>>385552881
So did you get rubbed with a huge guy's chest?
Are "normal" ones non-existant?
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>>385553087
Dunno but I'd imagine so. Hardly matters to me though since it no doubt requires higher than 11.1.
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>>385543067
How is 3DS emulation?
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Because I'm playing it on ps4 on Twitch at /rudywastaken
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>>385543067
DQ games are boring.
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>>385543067
Can't read Jap
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>>385554457
You can't imagine your own voices?
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>>385553187

OOOUUUU!!!
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>>385554531
In 1999, sure.
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>>385544729
>video resolution is higher than the 3DS resolution

I'm not falling for this shit again. Call me when it's on the Switch or the PC or fucking anything but the 3DS.
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>>385554612
Maybe, we'll get more info in fall.
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>>385554457

As it has been explained in every thread before this, Yuji Horii and his staff debated having voices. But they came to the conclusion that voice acting wouldn't improve the game more than just having the usual text and text noises. They also would have had to finalize all the story in pre production, whereas Yuji Horii prefers to edit story and cutscenes as they develop the game. Sometimes even weeks before it releases.

Also, of the four DQ games that had voice acting in Japan, none of them saw a significant sales increase from voices. In fact, all of them sold less than usual.

More than likely the western localization will add in voices, since SquareEnix localization director has said in interviews he believes voice acting and dialects are the key to its success in the west. Sales have proven time and time again that its marketing and not dialects that sells games, but he's a stubborn idiot who doesn't know anything about his job.
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>>385554739

Its on the PS4, idiot. With an entirely unique engine running at 1080p. It's also been announced for the Switch. Why do idiots who don't even follow Dragon Quest consistently post in these threads?
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>>385554739

anon
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>>385554739
This is the kind of retard that judges games graphics yet thinks PS4 is a 3DS game
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>>385554739
It's like google doesn't even exist.
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Because the PS4 version is fucking beautiful and blows it the fuck out of the water.
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>>385554915
DQXI specifically looks terrible without voices. The cutscenes have sound effects, motion-captured animation, extremely high fidelity graphics and mouth movement - it creates a realistic scene that is then immediately made horribly uncanny when there is no voice coming out of the characters' mouths.

Just go and watch some footage of cutscenes from the game on Youtube, you'll see for yourself. The characters look like they are miming.
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>>385543067
I don't speak NipMoonRunes
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>>385554739

>Yuji Horii stated early in development that he specifically made the game with consoles in mind
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>>385552746
>emunand
Why the fuck
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>>385554915
>dialects
oh boy here we go again
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>>385555420
I like'em
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>>385555462
WEE
LITTLE
BAIRNS
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>>385555462
Same tbbqh
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>>385555357

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4d2AQVwPs0
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>>385555357

I have watched the videos. And I don't have a problem with it. If you played Dragon Quest VIII with the voices turned off, it was the same. And that's how Dragon Quest VIII was with the original Japanese release.

After trying to play DQVIII with the voices on, they were ruining the game so much I had to turn them off. Sometimes its better to just skip voice acting altogether, as it's just another factor that can hurt your game.
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>>385555587

Talking to characters is handled exactly the same way it was in DQVIII and X. Looks fine. The only time it looks weird is the heavy CGI cutscenes.

Also

>that fucking Dragon Quest IV music
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>>385552759
>mfw 90 hours into FFXV
It ain't perfect, but I can't go back to turn-based combat. There's just no point. It needs to evolve, not necessarily just convert to Action-RPG, but something.

I cut Lost Odyssey some slack because it actually had an interesting story to tell. I'm still waiting for DQ to have one. Also LO didn't look like goose droppings on a sidewalk, speaking of DQXI.
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Is it running on Citra yet?
Is it in english yet?
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>>385555840
Sounds like a (you) problem. I can go from something like Bayonetta to DQ just fine.
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>>385555595
>If you played Dragon Quest VIII with the voices turned off, it was the same
But it's not. You're not appreciating the fact that as the games' visuals and animation push more towards realism and high fidelity, the lack of voice acting becomes more and more jarring.

Imagine watching a really high-budget anime with great art and animation, but when the characters speak no sound comes out, they just flap their lips silently and subtitles show up. That's what DQXI is like.
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>>385555840
I could go back to crawling in the dirt begging high class romans for scraps if it meant I never had to touch ffxv combat ever again
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>>385555953
>both games can be beaten just by moving around and spamming a single button
not surprising
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Is there a mega link? I really don't like 3 parts archives with adds / slow speed shit.
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>>385555840

If every game had action based combat, then it would get old. I'm specifically looking forward to DQXI because I'm tired of ARPGs. Sometimes you need a break. Just like some days you want to play a platformer and other days you want to play a simulation game.

>>385556025

>pushing realism
What the fuck? It's fucking Akira Toriyama designs. And the motion is so 'high fidelity' it looks unrealistic. A DQ game shouldn't look realistic. People don't move and react to things like characters in Dragon Quest do.

>Imagine watching a really high-budget anime with great art and animation, but when the characters speak no sound comes out
But this is a false equivalency. Anime is a medium of TV/Film. Story and visuals are not only the focus, but all the medium has. Video games have a lot more going on. They can tell a story through visuals combined with physical interaction from the player. Which is exactly what Dragon Quest is doing and has always done. This is actually one of the many things that sets Dragon Quest apart from Final Fantasy.
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>>385556057

This is a really bad point to emphasize after referencing Final Fantasy.
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>>385554457
Who cares
Why the fuck does this game have such an old ass sounding OST? Is it midi?
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>>385555840

>I cut Lost Odyssey some slack because it actually had an interesting story to tell. I'm still waiting for DQ to have one.
Dragon Quest III, IV, V, VII and VIII all have great stories. You probably just don't like the way the story is told, since it is stretched over many hours and you have to seek it out.
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>>385556540
>not understanding that DQXI looks more realistic than DQVIII, which looked more realistic than DQVII etc
Jesus anon, this is such simple stuff. Turn your brain on.

>They can tell a story through visuals combined with physical interaction from the player
This is not Ico, this is an old-school JRPG where 99% of the story is told through dialogue.
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>>385556653
I'm not him
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Because I'm going to get the Switch version instead when it's out
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The Toriyama art style is and will always be shit. They look like neanderthals
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>>385543067
PS4 > 3DS
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>>385556884

Your problem is you're equating better graphics with realism. A common mistake, especially with western gamers. A game can have extremely good graphics, but not be true to life. Or even have characters with realistic human proportions.
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>>385557179
No shit sherlock, but I can at least pirate the 3DS version.
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>>385558178
It's so trashy it arguably isn't even worth pirating
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>>385556884

>Jesus anon, this is such simple stuff. Turn your brain on.
Says the person who thinks anime designs are realistic.

>This is not Ico, this is an old-school JRPG where 99% of the story is told through dialogue.
But what I said is still true. And because the game focuses so much on dialogue is another reason voice acting can hurt it if done incorrectly. So going with the old method that has worked for Dragon Quest for 30 years is the safer bet.
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>>385558264
It's pretty cute, the music is good too
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>>385543067
Why are there blue slimes outside of the Kerning City subway?
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>>385558029
Why was her ass cheeks pointy triangles? Everything else is great but that.

How do you fuck up an ass?
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>>385558290
>So going with the old method that has worked for Dragon Quest for 30 years is the safer bet.
And yet it's not a safer bet, because it looks horrible in DQXI. What works for a NES game does not automatically work for a PS4 game.

Incidentally, I find it strange that the rabid fanboys are happy to accept standard advancements in graphics quality in line with the rest of the industry, but REEEEEE about other industry-standard features like voice acting because it's "not traditional". If you care so much about tradition then why are you even playing PS4 games? Stick with 8-bit RPGs, I'm sure there are plenty you haven't played yet.
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>>385558290
>two best girls together
yesyesyeyseyseyseyes
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Is Dragon Quest the most stagnant series there is? Asking for a friend
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>>385543067
I will once there is a translation patch out/
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>>385543067
Because my 3DS broke and I can't justify buying a new one.
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>mfw reading this thread
My god /v/ sucks. You guys have mental disabilities.
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>>385554915

>we live in a world where zelda has voice acting but not dragon quest
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>>385559796
>You guys have mental disabilities.
So what's your excuse?
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>>385558819
Tekken is the most stagnant series there is.
More stagnant than Fifa.
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>>385558819
It's probably the one with the most stagnant ost for sure. It sounds like a PS2 game.
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The same retard with the same reaction images is defending no voices with the same nonarguments in every goddamn DQ thread.

Fucking obnoxious shitposting.
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>>385560000
nice quads
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>>385558673

>And yet it's not a safer bet, because it looks horrible in DQXI.
This is your personal opinion, not a fact. Millions of people in Japan will prefer Dragon Quest to keep to its roots. They're going to do what would appeal more to the Japanese fans, not an angry western gamer.

And even then, they probably will add in voices for the western release.

>What works for a NES game does not automatically work for a PS4 game.
But the same thing was used in DQX, which is also on PS4 and a dozen other modern consoles.

>Incidentally, I find it strange that the rabid fanboys are happy to accept standard advancements in graphics quality in line with the rest of the industry, but REEEEEE about other industry-standard features like voice acting because it's "not traditional". If you care so much about tradition then why are you even playing PS4 games? Stick with 8-bit RPGs, I'm sure there are plenty you haven't played yet.
Your problem is you think only your views are valid. DQXI is making huge advancements in some areas but sticking to tradition in others. This is a good thing when the team knows what the fans want. And no team understands this better than Armor Project. If you hate it so much, go play Final Fantasy XV. Where the team went out of their way to change everything, including things that pissed off FF fans.
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>>385558819

Pokemon is the most stagnant series out there. Dragon Quest has changed more in just 5 years than Pokemon has in 20.
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Because I traded my 3ds in for a Vita a month ago after not having touched the thing in a year.
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>>385560203

He's making huge posts with tons of reasons. Including actual facts Yuji Horii has pointed out in interviews. Just because you disagree doesn't mean he has no argument. Especially when you aren't responding to his points.
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>>385543067
Because I'm going to play it on PS4 with it's beautiful graphics when the game releases in America.
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>>385561041
There's no need to samefag.
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They will make an orchestral sountrack, right?
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>>385543067
I'm not the biggest dragon quest fan.
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>>385559973
thanks fucking god

zelda VA is horrible
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>>385561003
Also because I bought Witcher 2 today for 360 and I'm having a wonderful time so far. Forgot to mention that.
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>>385560203

>how dare a Dragon Quest fan defend Dragon Quest! I'm gonna claim he has no argument so I don't have to respond to his points!
Trolls are getting desperate.
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>>385561362
"""""arguments"""""""
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>>385561229

Every other DQ game has had a symphonic suite about 9 months after it released. And Sugiyama composes the music for orchestra first, then it gets changed to synth for the games release.

So yes.
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>playing a game without understanding the text

What are you, animals? Just wait for the translation.
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>>385561535

>I don't agree so he has no argument
The funny thing is, you don't even have any points at all.
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>>385558673
he's a hypocrite fucktard fanboy, its exactly the way you mentioned.
changing graphics to not resemble past games is perfectly fine but voice acting would upset fans even though nobody had an issue with the voice acting in DQ8.

he's an idiot and he shits up literally every DQ thread where people sound their valid concerns.
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>>385559973
Voice acting killed rpgs. It was a strictly negative addition.
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>>385561210

I'm not that guy. As you pointed out, I'm posting an image with every response.
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>>385560726
>Millions of people in Japan will prefer Dragon Quest to keep to its roots
So they won't like the shiny new graphics then? Damn, guess DQXI really fucked up.

>But the same thing was used in DQX
DQX is a Wii game at its core, it is on par with DQVIII in terms of technology and production quality. The point I have been making is that the much higher production values of XI make the lack of voice acting stick out a lot more and feel like an awkward absence.

>This is a good thing when the team knows what the fans want
You talk about "the fans" as though they are a homogeneous entity and that you speak on their behalf with total accuracy. In reality, we won't know how the Japanese fans feel about the lack of voice acting in XI until feedback starts to surface. And no, pre-release opinion polling does not count, that is all speculative based on standalone concepts, not a reaction to the game as a holistic experience.
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>>385561702
The Japanese version of DQ8 didn't have voice acting
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>>385543067
>playing pic related as first game
>Get stuck on Dhoulmagus
>people all over the internet/guides saying you need to be level 30 so angelo gets multiheal
>need to grind despite never doing it before this point
>apparently you can farm metal slimes
>do it
>I get to level 32 in an hour

this is easily abusable desu senpai
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>DQ games moved away from random encounters to field encounters
>the fans somehow didnt boycott the series when faced with such a drastic as fanboys would imply
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>>385561834
3ds version did.
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>>385561704
You can only push graphics and animation so far before lack of voice-acting becomes immersion shattering. So if anything you should be blaming graphicsfags for ruining RPGs.
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>>385561886
forgot image but I said Dhoulmagus so fuck it
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>DQ actually adds combat animations which killed the original classic aesthetics of the series which should absolutely turn off REAL fans
>somehow the series isnt dead yet
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>>385561702

>changing graphics to not resemble past games is perfectly fine but voice acting would upset fans
It isn't upsetting Japanese fans at all based on the reaction so far. There's also dozens of posts in this very thread of people saying they don't care about a lack of voice acting or are even happy about it. If anyone has a blind opinion, it's you.

>even though nobody had an issue with the voice acting in DQ8.
The PS2 release of Dragon Quest VIII didn't have voice acting. They only got it 8 years later with the 3DS remake. And that game is the lowest selling DQ remake yet. Not exactly a sign that Japan cares about voice acting. But I guess a casual observer who doesn't even do a casual google check is more creditable than a blind DQ fanboy who actually pays attention to the series.
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>>385561893
Don't you understand? Whatever this one fanboy wants is what "the fans" want. His opinion is definitive. Dragon Quest fans wait for his decrees so that they know what is acceptable for the franchise and what is off-limits.
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>>385560000
Checked.
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>>385543067
The 3DS version is fucking atrocious looking garbage
You wouldn't catch me ever playing this shit on a fucking 3ds

home console version or go home
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>>385562124
Are they going to remake Dragon Quest IX, or loop back to the first game?
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>SE drops the minimedal jingle in DQ8
>TRUE FANS© still havent assassinated yuji horii
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>>385562258
I mean it's not like they can do much on a 240p machine anyway
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>>385543067
I can't speak moon
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>>385561987
Not really. I turn off voices when it's an option and the game still works fine. Most rpgs have pretty bad dialogue but it's fine when you read it. But when some nerd with as squeaky voice says them it's so much worse.
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>>385562410
That's why I want the 3DS to die already
After years of playing MH on it I'm done

NEVER ever 240p again
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>>385561987
I don't give a flying fuck whether there are voices or not
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>>385562124
The ps2 release of VIII did have voice acting though, the 3DS remake added more npcs voiced and changed Jessicas voice actor.
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>this passive aggressive faggot is still posting even after getting told
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>>385562660
*in the west
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>>385561783

>So they won't like the shiny new graphics then?
This is another false equivalency. But it's also kind of funny since Dragon Quest XI is on 3DS with the option to use classic SNES 2D graphics instead of full 3D animations. So yes, some people are going to buy the 3DS version specifically for the nostalgia of older graphics. This is actually a genius move on Yuji Horii's part as it means the same game is going to appeal to all groups of fans.

>DQX is a Wii game at its core, it is on par with DQVIII in terms of technology and production quality. The point I have been making is that the much higher production values of XI make the lack of voice acting stick out a lot more and feel like an awkward absence.
And the point I made long ago is that while graphics have increased dramatically, the actual way you interact with characters is the same as it was in DQVIII and X. Its only in the cutscenes where the lack of voice acting is noticeable. Though even then, DQX also had this.

>You talk about "the fans" as though they are a homogeneous entity and that you speak on their behalf with total accuracy. In reality, we won't know how the Japanese fans feel about the lack of voice acting in XI until feedback starts to surface.
True. But the same can be said of the opposite. You can't claim that no voices was a mistake until you have evidence of that. So don't come crying to me if Japan doesn't throw a tantrum over the lack of voices like you are.

Also, we can say is that people aren't spamming hate on amazon reviews like they did during the release of DQIX and X.
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The old synth music is far more jarring than voice acting desu.
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>>385562712
Why are all the DQIII female class such semen demons?
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>>385562324

Dragon Quest X basically is Dragon Quest IX with all the improvements DQIX should have. Just never ever in the west. But you never know. They might port or remake it down the line. I'd be fine with it being remade as just a single player game without wifi multiplayer. And fix alchemy.
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>>385562825
We need a remake of 3, or a classic collection release with all the games on ps4
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>>385562660

Yes, but we're comparing the Japanese release of DQVIII to the Japanese release of DQXI. Which both didn't have voices. And I did mention the 3DS remake getting voices.
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>>385544729
How does this look so good?
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A lot of sugarcoating for what is essentially SE being cheap.
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>>385561783
I bet 3DS version sold more than PS4. No shiny graphics there, in fact it's gimmick is having sprites.
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>>385543067
I've never played a Dragon Quest game before. Is this a good one to start with? I have a hacked 3DS.
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>>385562983

Japan got both and we never got it. But you can play the fan translation on an emulator. One of the best SNES games.
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>>385563098
play VIII first
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>>385563195
Oh i did, the music is probably sugiyama's best work, but i really want a full in one collection
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>>385563057

http://www.siliconera.com/2017/07/25/square-enix-explains-dragon-quest-xi-wont-voice-acting/

It's not SE being cheap. Its a combination of Yuji Horii wanting to have control over altering the story right up to release and them thinking fans would prefer the traditional bleeps and bloops over full voice acting.
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>>385561886
>>385561992
I did Dhoulmagus without Multiheal once in the PS2 game, it took a lot of Alchemy abuse and a bit of luck (and I basically still had Multiheal on Angelo because of that bow that heals the whole party when you use it as an item, it's just weaker than actual Multiheal)
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>>385563098
It won't come out in the west for 6+ months. Play Dragon Quest 8 on PS2 for a good intro to the franchise.
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>>385563098
Play V on the DS or VIII on the 3DS first
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>>385563098

Since this game seems to be a massive nostalgia throwback to the NES games, if not all the games, I'd say you should play the other games in the series first. That being said, it probably would be a great game by itself. Kind of like Zelda BotW is a throwback to Zelda 1, but is perfectly enjoyable as a stand alone game.
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>>385563315
>believing excuses from marketing people
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>>385563073
>I bet 3DS version sold more than PS4
Wouldn't be surprising given the vast difference in numbers of 3DS owners and PS4 owners in Japan.
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>>385563456
>VIII on the 3DS
stop
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nihongowakkannaikara
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>>385563328
You don't need multiheal at all for that fight, the first time i did the game i honestly needed it, but the fourth time i actually finished the game lvl 40 and i didn't get multiheal until way after dhoulmagus
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>>385555401
Did it once and it's not worth bothering with again until something I want comes out that I can't play. I doubt DQ11 falls into that category though.
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>>385563569
Currently it's 60:40% according to some retailers
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>>385563569
Not to mention Japan doesn't give a fuck about the PS4, much less consoles in general. Japan only cares about handhelds.
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>>385563328

Yeah, there's half a dozen ways to beat Dhoulmagus without grinding to multiheal. People just don't bother to learn what all the skills and items do. You can beat him just using buffs and careful healing.
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>>385563632
I can't get past the first dungeon.

I'm probably supposed to use items or something. It's kind of confusing for a beginner.
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>>385543067
Once it comes over here, yeah
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>>385561341
I like 3 a lot more but 2 is really fun.
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>>385563740
You can't fight the boss ? or you're getting demolished in the dungeon ? a good level to do that dungeon is 5 if that can help you
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the monsters in the PS4 version are amazing, i can't stop laughing at their intro animations when a battle starts

that fucking crow carrying the skull
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>>385563740

Explore the whole town and you get tons of free equipment and items. Put medicinal herbs on your party members (they can be used in battle as items). Make sure the hero has heal (he gets it at level 3) and use it in battle as well. You find a free copper sword in the dungeon right before the boss.

When fighting mobs, efficiency is more important than dealing damage. Have both characters focus on the same enemy. Always go for the weaker enemy first (slimes, moles) so that they get less turns to attack.
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>>385564593
God the wait is painful
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>>385554457
voice acting is unnecessary shit that removes depth from RPGs

NPCs can't do shit if a game is voiced and they are just filler when it's present
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>>385564676
Square Enix in the west needs to burn in hell, they think we want boy band kingdom hearts "RPG" instead of this
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>>385564992

This guy knows what's up. I still have nightmares about the fucking dialogue trees in Skyrim.
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>>385543067
I don't know Nip.
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>>385565287
>they think we want boy band kingdom hearts "RPG" instead of this
Problem is that i'm sure the "majority" wants kingdom farts 3, we dq fans are a small minority, and it's sad because it's obviously the better one
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>>385554739
Oh no.
You're retarded...
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>>385554457
I'm surprised people actually expected voice acting. I only got into the series recently and I didn't expect voice acting. Is it that big a deal?
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>>385565469
I don't think it's fair to compare KH and DQ as they're both vastly different games. If FF was still an RPG and not a babymode action game I'd say it would be the better comparison.
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>>385565581
For fans, nah we don't care, only people that care are the casual jrpg audience that expects vvoice acting everywhere, or people than only played the localized version of 8 and think it's standard
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>>385565691
Of course but i wasn't trying to say it as "direct competitor" but as KH being some sort of priority for SE in the west
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>>385565691
>>385565469
>>385565287
But I want KH AND DQ.
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>>385565469

If Dragon Quest games got the same level of marketing that Kingdom Hearts games got, you might be surprised. After a generation or so, DQ would probably surpass KH. But one series gets basically no marketing and the other has the whole weight of SquareEnix and Disney behind it.
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>>385543178
Fair enough. Probably not the game for you.

But that's cool! I'll play it and let you know how it was, anon.
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>>385565878
That's i why i clarified my thoughts by saying it's more of a priority issue, like dq is less of a priority than KH in the west for SE
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RIP DQX, Guess we never really will see it.
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>>385565878
This. When DQ9 got marketed with Seth Green it sold gangbusters here, I even know girls who aren't all into video games who had a DS and loved it.
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I can't wait.
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Never played any Dragon Quest games, but have played a bunch of jrpgs.

What is a good Dragon Quest game to start on?
Which ones are worth playing?
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>>385565808
I recommend you to absolutely avoid spoilers then.
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>>385566231
VIII. All but 2 (unless you're a masochist).
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>>385566145
this character does things to my dick, can i set her as the first party member so i can look at her throughout the entire game?
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>>385566231
>What is a good Dragon Quest game to start on?
DQ8 on PS2

>Which ones are worth playing?
3, 4, 5, 7 and 8 are the most well regarded games in the series.
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>>385566145
>butchaU
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>>385566145

>BUTCH
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>>385566402
>7

don't lie to me.
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>>385566145
Melon tits
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>>385566561
7 is in my top 3
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>>385566145
Is this a sneak peek to a new porn or he's just a fan?
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>>385566561
7 is good for when you have already developed a taste for the DQ games
what may be a bore before it gains more charm after, though I do agree it's very love or hate
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>>385566231

>What is a good Dragon Quest game to start on?
The first if you like older RPGs. V or VIII if you need something more modern.

>Which ones are worth playing?
All of them.
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>>385566561
7 is probably only behind 3 and 5 in terms of popularity
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>>385566402
Are the 3ds versions of any of the games good?
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>>385566752
The DS versions of 4, 5 and 6 are all good
The 3DS version of 7 is good
The 3DS version of 8 is a downgrade compared to PS2
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>>385566752
just 7, it's better to emulate 8 on ps2.
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>>385566695
This, 7 is not newcomer friendly, always leave it for later
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>>385566145
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-UNC2HixD8
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Where's a good place to grind for Estark in IV? I've only seen two LMSes in the Royal Crypt, and that was over the course of ~8 hrs.
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>>385566838
7 was my first and I loved it. You just have to go into it with an open mind. The beginning is deliberately very slow to reinforce the idea that the heroes start from nothing, just ordinary kids who aren't professional adventurers or fighters or whatever.
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>>385566752

Always default to the remakes. Except DQVIII. Which even then DQVIII on 3DS is great and has some features people prefer. It's really a matter of preferring graphics and music or preferring on field enemies and more characters.
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>>385550084
Her thighs don't point the right way, they would have to have been torn out of their sockets to point the way they do
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>>385546539
TRADER IS BACK
THANK FUCK
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>>385566929
>tfw she doesn't have jiggle physics
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>>385566595
Tits!
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>>385567150

Her legs are not the only thing wrong in that image.
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>>385543067
Can't find a download
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>>385567225
She's so cute.
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Is there a good download for the 3DS version?
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Should I get the normal 3DS DQVII or the undub + orchestra patch?
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>>385568003
if you can get the orchestra get it
the best voices are the english ones
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>>385568003

You should buy the game.
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>>385568003
Just buy the normal version. The orchestral music in the Jap version uses shorter versions of the tracks that loop for space-saving reasons.
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Is the OST anywhere? I want to hear if they managed to top 8's.
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>tfw going to youtube and searching under last hour for more gameplay
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>>385568363

She's not just a loli. She's a smug loli.
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>>385568363
Too bad your taste is trash.
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Is it ps4 and 3ds only? I thought this was coming to the switch as well.
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>>385568546
That only makes it worse.
>>385568565
Being attracted to anything you can't reproduce with is trash tier
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>>385568597
it'll make it to the Switch later
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fucking kek just look at this thing. i gotta hand it to the guys that modeled the monsters
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>>385568712

>That only makes it worse.
I knew you were gonna say that.

>Being attracted to anything you can't reproduce with is trash tier
I can't mate with an anime character but I'm attracted to them.
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>>385567474
Install FBI:
https://github.com/Steveice10/FBI/releases
(grab the fbi.cia and install it)
Then use remote install option and scan this QR code
It'll automatically install

For future reference, you can find almost every game's QR code at http://3ds.titlekeys.gq/
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>>385568989
loli are generic and meatless.
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>>385569196
Don't stop. Never stop.


Please.
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>>385569196

Delete this before the thread gets deleted.
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>>385568989
>>385569196
go to jail you criminals
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No multiplayer
DQ IX > DQXI
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>>385569563
>MY HOBBY! MINE!
Ugh.
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>>385569563
>Pedos are desperate so they're more likely to spend money.
>Anime capitalizes on this
>Fans don't realize they're just a bunch of tools.
Sad really.
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>>385569563
I think you're reaching an impasse here anon.
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>>385569563
i prefer tits and ass thanks
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>>385569834
I wonder when the government will step in and stop the pedo pandering.
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>>385543067
I'm playing miitopia instead
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Go to /a/ if you want to argue about lolis.
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>>385543067
I am. Looks damn good but im not sure how far ill go without knowing Japanese
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Should I bother playing II or just skip to 3?
I played 1, I'd kinda like to play them in order, but at the same time 1 was really fucking primitive and I don't really want this to be a chore anymore.
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>>385570717

Just play it. If you don't like it, then move onto III. I personally like the extra challenge the game has as battles are harder than any other game in the series and you have to pay more attention to NPC dialogue. And no game feels grindy after you get through II.
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>>385570717
According to what I've heard, II is the hardest game in the series, so I think you'd be better off just moving on to III.
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>>385550084
Deborah is better.
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Dragon Quest music is so shit compared to Final Fantasy music. I mean just compare the battle themes of FF1-6 and DQ1-6, FF is in a different league.
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>>385571216
Yeah but Final Fantasy is shit compared to Dragon Quest.
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>>385571216
Final Fantasy is certainly cooler because of how experimental and epic it tries to be, but the appeal of Dragon Quest's music is it's brutal simplicity. It gives you the right vibes and a memorable melody to boot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkVyMnKNSJA&list=PL5gJhWkaLSgfZ60wfbrfa9i059_dfhjWs&index=5
At least DQ didn't lose it's musical identity lol.
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>the first boomerang skill is a fucking figgit spinner
Wew lad
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>>385571216

>I mean just compare the battle themes of FF1-6 and DQ1-6
I play Theathrythm FF every day. FF just remixes the same battle theme in each game. It gets annoying honestly. DQ has different battle themes.

FF music is stronger in certain areas. Especially how Uematsu wrote the songs specifically for MIDI so they sound better in MIDI. But when it comes to the orchestrated versions, Sugiyama's works are vastly superior. I also don't ever feel compelled to skip a song on a DQ OST. While I skip half the songs on most FF OSTs. The main themes and core songs in FF games are amazing. Then the other half are really forgettable. Every song in DQ sounds like a core theme, because they are. DQ has less songs so each one gets more focus.
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But I am. It's bretty good so far.
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>>385572397
>when it comes to the orchestrated versions, Sugiyama's works are vastly superior
Shame they refuse to do them justice in the actual games then eh?
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>>385563740
If this is your first dq game its got kind of a learning curve. And if you're having trouble with the first dungeon prepare to get your shit slapped bc it gets hard
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>nobody has recommended ds7 yet itt
absolutely plebian
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>>385566231
8 was my first on ps2. I just got 7 on 3ds and boy people weren't kidding when they said its long as hell. I'm 17 hours in and feel like I've accomplished nothing.
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>>385543067
Because I'm playing on my PS4.

Why should I play the inferior 3ds version?
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>>385571216
dq actually has variety and heart
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>>385566540
Do they fug?
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>>385566828
See I disagree I enjoy 3ds 8 over ps2 8. Seeing the enemies makes the game a million times better.
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>>385573041
>I'm 17 hours in and feel like I've accomplished nothing
thats because you've accomplished nothing
i think my file was like 89 hours before i even started in on post-game stuff
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>>385566828
>downgrade
you clearly haven't played both
the encounters and battle speed options alone make it an infinitely better version
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>>385573248
I just got to all trades abbey and I heard it picks up from there. Does it get harder too? Bc the enemies have been pretty easy thus far.
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>>385573192
>Seeing the enemies makes the game a million times better.
For you
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>>385573132
Cuz its free.
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>>385573361
This. I could never play the ps2 one again.
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>>385573361
It looks a lot worse, and I value the immersive qualities of the adventure over a few minor conveniences.
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>>385552108
>>385552537
I was legit thinking of picking up a switch just to play as my boy.
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>>385572694

It's a strange Japanese preference for the originals. But they've put the orchestrated versions in a lot of recent games. I actually get angry because one of the criticisms Japanese players had for Dragon Quest X is how all the music is orchestrated. All the more reason we SHOULD HAVE FUCKING GOT IT IN THE WEST!
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>>385543067
I'm waiting on an english release.
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>>385573494
>immersive qualities of the adventure
>muh graphics
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>>385573374

Most people think the Dharma Temple is the hardest part of the game. But that's because they don't use skills.
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>>385573036
What is that traitor keifer doing on that ship
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>>385573904
>graphics aren't an immersive quality
This is so dumb I don't know how to respond.
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>>385573996
Don't, they probably only have access to the 3ds so they have to think it's the best
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>>385572397
> FF just remixes the same battle theme in each game

No it doesn't. What the hell are you even talking about?
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>>385543067
I think DQ monster design is absolute kiddy garbage. Everytime I see I pile of goo with a big smile on his face I feel nauseous. It aalways looked like a chinese mobile game to me.
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Who /learning/ here?
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>>385543067
>"So, how was the story of Dragon Quest XI?"
>"UMMMM I DUNNO THERE WERE PRETTY LOLI GIRLS AND STUFF ALSO I DUNNO WHAT HAPPENED LOL BUT I MASHED THE A BUTTON A LOT :)))))"
Fucking EOPs. Too poor to buy games and too stupid to read them.
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>>385574170

Listen to the battle theme in FFI-VI. It's all the same song played in different ways. FFVII was the first game to change up the battle theme.
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>>385574313
Just because they have the same opening and bass doesn't make it the same song.
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>>385574180

Honestly, this. I know it's a beloved, staple franchise of the genre, and I've played most major series' very thoroughly...
But every character and enemy design I've seen of DQ just makes me think it's purely kiddie trash.
Is it not?
Gels with smiles on their faces and bug-eyes like children's drawings; every enemy resembles some kind of caricature drawn by a 4 year old on construction paper. Does the game maintain that overly childish aesthetic throughout, start to end, without cease?
How can this not grate on everyone who isn't a 10 year old terribly after awhile?
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>>385573996
this is a viewpoint that can only be held by someone under 18
Dragon quest games have usually been average or bellow average on a graphics level compared to its peers, with an above average design and style to compensate. They have never been a main pull of the series for people whove been playing since it looked like
>pic related
If you need graphics to become immersed in a gameworld you are either 16 or have autism
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>>385543067
How's the reception so far on both versions?
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I don't want to get hype again after Persona 5 turned out to be so mediocre
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>>385574202
That looks like a fucking pain in the ass, but good luck
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>>385543067
>Inferior version
>Don't understand Nihongo
>Requires Japanese 3ds
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>>385574436
I just think they like it like they like anime. It just doesn't work for me. It feels bland and I hate their fucking foreheads. But obviously lots of people like it so whatever.
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>>385574202
We are all forever in a learning state. That is what it means to be human. Natives are still learning.
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>>385574467
opps forgot pic
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>>385574313
>Listen to the battle theme in FFI-VI.
I have
>It's all the same song played in different ways.
No it isn't you deaf retard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgDBa_eLlW0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8TdhrqIc9c

In what fucking universe are these the same songs?
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>>385573036
Just finished this one and I can say with full honesty it was my least favorite in the entire series and I don't understand the hype behind it.

>The length makes the entire game feel like a chore

>The characters are easily forgotten because there is so fucking many of them

>The only thing that made the game fun was classes, which if done right completely breaks the game.

By the way,

8>9>5>6>4>7 (Didn't play the others)
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>Veronica and Senya are twin sisters except veronica is older but also a loli because lol magic curse
Yuji Horii knows exactly what he was doing when coming up with these characters.
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>>385574586
No denying that
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I wanted to play DQ builders but its only on ps4, fuck buying a whole console just for that shit.

Put it on the pc where it should be, japs.
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>>385574467
No, you're just a mindless pleb who doesn't appreciate good artistry. Get some experience with culture besides just playing videogames.
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>>385574484
>I don't want to get hype again after Persona 5 turned out to be so mediocre
Fucking LOL
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>>385574650
It's on Vita
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>>385574608
>it was my least favorite in the entire series
>8>9>5>6>4>7

uhh
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>>385574428

Now you're just splitting hairs. They're still variations of the battle theme from FF1. Next you're gonna tell me the prelude theme repeated in most FF games isn't the same song because one game uses a harp and another uses violins.

It is not a sin for them to reuse the same song. That appeals to players nostalgia. But it is weird for that guy above to use the example of FF music being better specifically because of the battle themes.
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>>385574693
>Fucking LOL
Flippin' LEL
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>>385574776
No I wouldn't argue against the preludes because the melodies are the same.
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>>385574608
>I don't understand the hype behind i

It's one, maybe two autists trying to viral this game between /v/ and /vr/. They show up in every DQ thread, and even try to hijack non-DQ threads (e.g. FF threads) to push their shitty agenda.

DQ5 is honestly one of the worst games in the series.
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>>385574614
yeah because the thousand years old loli is something new on the industry so we can pass pedoshit as something normal
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>>385566828
>The 3DS version of 8 is a downgrade compared to PS2

Only in visuals. It adds party members, lets you see the monsters rather than just having random encounters, and the Japanese version edits the annoying ugly reverb out of the orchestral music.
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>>385574817
Effin LMAO
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>>385574829

The melodies in the battle themes are also the same. They alter the instruments and change the tempo, but the melody is still there in FFI-VI.
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>>385574846

Another way to look at it is, a bunch of angry anti shills are invading DQ threads. Like you. But thanks for continuing to bump the thread.
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>>385574879
>he think lolicon won't fap to a loli is she' isn't 18+

You know nothing.
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>>385574776
>hey're still variations of the battle theme from FF1.

No they aren't. Where are you getting this? They're totally different. The only thing the same in the classic battle themes is that they have the same two second riff before the music actually starts.

>It is not a sin for them to reuse the same song.

But they didn't. You're just crazy.
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>>385574658
>No, you're just a mindless pleb
>i can't get invested in vidya unless it is 1080p 4k ultra-hd crystal refracted VASOshine
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>>385574595
He thinks that because they all have similar openings they're all the same song.
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>>385574960
>The melodies are the same
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgDBa_eLlW0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8TdhrqIc9c

You're LITERALLY retarded
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>>385574761
>>385574846
If the thumb nail caused confusion I was talking about DQ7, It's the first DQ thing I found so I posted it.
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>>385574614
Called it.
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>>385569118
Is this moon runes or fan translated?
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>>385574960
No it isn't. You need to take your meds.

these are nowhere near the same song outside of the beginning two second riff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmXDY9WXVQA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx3KNKHLyBc
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>>385555840
After FF XV, I had to replay FF V, VI and IX as part of my rehabilitation and recuperation.

God damn, fucking Tales Of has better combat. XV is like the Tales of Zesteria of Final Fantasy.
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>>385575335
The game JUST came out. Of course it's not translated.
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>>385575183
>1080p 4k ultra-hd crystal refracted VASOshine
We're talking about a fucking PS2 game that got a poorly-judged downgrade for the 3DS, stop being retarded.
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Martina is kind of like your adopted sister; she's really the princess of the kingdom that goes after you (which is under the influence of the demon lord)
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>>385575491
Fug
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>>385575568
That's kinda obvious
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also Rou is your grandpa
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>>385574608
>6 above 7
shit nigger what the fuck are you doing
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>>385545180
>expecting neo-/v/ to get a candlejack j
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>>385575719
The story is not too surprising, but i'm just waiting for the part where it ties in with Dragon Quest III and shows Loto.
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>>385574960
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiyugfW4MX8
vs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnRjPwwP1tU&t=23s
Now tell us how are these the same.
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There will never be a western port as good as DQVIII
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>>385573989
>leaving your bros to get pussy is being a traitor
then you can call me fucking benedict arnold
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>>385575987
>Implying
DQ1 added direction sensitive sprites for ALL of it's NPCs and a saving system.
In the japanese version when you selected talk you also had to select a direction.
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>>385576102
He left his father and sister behind
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>>385576110
That is pretty awful
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I kinda wanna try this game even though I'm not a DQ fan. It looks really good.

Though I'm afraid the battle system is still boring and barebones as fuck with a boring ass orchestra soundtrack.
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>>385575216
>>385575396
>>385575894

The songs are clearly all remixes of the FF1 battle theme. They are done that way on purpose to appeal to fans. Why are you getting so defensive?
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>>385576215
doesn't sound like DQ games are for you
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>>385576102
Left his friends, father, sister, subjects, and kingdom. Without even saying goodbye to them.
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>>385576312
Yeah, I've tried multiple ones and was only able to get into DQ5. Had to stop cause my DS broke at the time.
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>>385576215

Shut the fuck up Onsokumaru.
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>>385575528
d8 was graphical subpar to other games is 2004
didn't stop it from being an amazing game, 3ds version gives you new characters, improved battle system, etc. fixed some of the only things wrong with the game for a marginal graphical downgrade which is barely detectable on the tiny ass 3ds screen
if you really thinks graphics>gameplay then you are most likely underage
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>>385576272
That's not a remix you dumb nigger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U84zAfb4b58
This is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j7MVMg-kgs
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>>385576369
try VIII on the PS2, if you don't like that one then it's over
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>>385576187
>>385576341
they were all pretty cool with it in fairness.
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>>385576341

He sent them a letter and sent you to say goodbye in person and passed down an heirloom to his descendant. Not going to say Keifer is perfect, he clearly could have gone back in person and spoken with his dad, then traveled back in time again. But he still said goodbye.
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>>385576436
I tried VIII ages ago when it released cause I wanted that FF12 demo disc. I can't remember if I liked it or not. I remember it being extremely hard, but I wasn't used to actually being forced to grind back then.
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>>385576560
Did you even talk to his sister? She was devastated by it
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>>385550084
literally only good for horse breeding
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>>385576416
DQVIII was the original vision of the developers. Acting like a handful of DLC-tier extra content is some massively meaningful factor is ridiculous.
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>>385576426

>its not a remix

It is the very definition of a remix.

>A remix is a piece of media which has been altered from its original state by adding, removing, and/or changing pieces of the item. A song, piece of artwork, book, video, or photograph can all be remixes. The only characteristic of a remix is that it appropriates and changes other materials to create something new.
Every one of those songs start the same and have a shared core melody. Then they have extra notes added/removed and played at a different tempo.

If you think something doesn't count as a remix because the original composer did it, you're the idiot.
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>>385576560
>they were all pretty cool with it in fairness.
Nigga what his sister basically never really got over it and his father was depressed for more than half the game later.
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>>385576768
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YCN-a0NsNk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=236UImGx1q0
I guess these are just simply remixes too huh?
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>>385566339
the remade SNES version or IOS ports of 2 are fine if you want to experience what it has to offer without all the grinding
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>>385576671
>DQVIII was the original vision of the developers
yes, im sure they are furious that the 4 second random encounters, unbalanced combat, and unbearably slow battle animations have been fixed. Real destroys the whole game
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>>385576930

Depends on what level you want to argue. They do have a shared melody, though it is altered a lot more than the battle themes we have been talking about.
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Can anyone explain the mechanic for my character glowing blue?
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>>385576619

>I tried VIII ages ago when it released cause I wanted that FF12 demo disc. I can't remember if I liked it or not.
And yet you've derailed countless DQ threads in the past with rabid hate for the series and DQVIII specifically. This is the downside to being a tripfag. Everyone remembers when you act like an as and call you out on it.
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>>385574313
>same opening bass line
>they're all the same

neck yourself
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>>385577168
It's called Zone, it seems to trigger based on randomly getting hit and will last for a set period of time, even across multiple battles

One of the skills can even make it go into effect more often. Sorry I don't know more than that
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>>385577210

>no only the beginning is the same!
You're deaf. The main melody is also recognizable in each song. It was done that way on fucking purpose so that people playing the game could tell it was a variation of the same song. You're just feigning ignorance to try and save face.
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>>385577397
It's okay anon, I appreciate it none the less.
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>>385577184
>"countless"
I haven't been in a DQ since the /vg/ split, and probably ages before that. Only reason I'm in this one is because I wanted some impressions on XI since it looks really good.

I don't "hate" the series in the slightest, and there was certainly never "rabid hate". I always wish I had the patience for this series.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo2njXwowdw

Skip to 21:56 for the cutscene that shows the duo legendary heroes.

I literally just finished this part on the 3ds so I was curious about how it looked on the ps4 and holy fuck it looks amazing. Not to say it doesn't look amazing on the 3ds but this shit is amazing even for ps4 standards.
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>>385543067
I'll wait for the localization.

I guess I have to buy the PS4 version too but I'm really looking forward to playing it on the 3DS.
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>>385577042

Don't know what you're arguing about, but remember that the Japanese PS2 game didn't have loading times before battles like the western version. The west got that because of bad encoding of the voices. As for the "unbearably slow battle animations", they're like 1-2 seconds long. You want unbearably slow battle animations? Play Final Fantasy VIII or IX.
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How is it
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Gonna ask again. Where should I be grinding for Estark in IV? I'm having shit luck w/ Liquid Metals (two over the course of eight hrs). Should I just use the lighthouse?
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>>385578029
Bring Alena with you for fighting metals, she has a high crit rate
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>>385577410
>The main melody is also recognizable in each song.

There is no main melody. The melody of each is totally different. Literally everyone in the thread is calling you a retarded faggot.

>It was done that way on fucking purpose

No it wasn't. Literally nobody but you thinks the I-VI battle themes are the same song remixed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgDBa_eLlW0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiyugfW4MX8

Outside of the opening riff these aren't even close the same melody. You're delusional
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>>385578029

I don't know because I didn't have to grind in that game. I remember there being a cave with some liquid metal slimes, but I didn't bother grinding them. I only did grinding at the end of the game in the tower. And with Alena on my team, I was able to get every character to level 99 in less than 2 hours. It's the only DQ game I ever leveled to max level.
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>>385578227
Oh I do. My issue is being unable to find LMSes.
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>>385578325

Okay dude. Clearly we aren't going to agree. I think it's pretty damn obvious that each song is made to be recognizable as a variation on the FF1 battle theme. But I'm not gonna waste any more effort arguing with you about it.
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>>385578483
Hmm, I not sure if you've reached Zenithia yet but you can find King Metals there
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>>385578025
I'm still in the prologue of the 3ds version. Seems pretty nice so far. 3D mode's combat speed is good.
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>>385578605
Nope. I'm pretty sure Estark is before that (have to beat Estark to get the gas for the Balloon, so I can't reach Yggdrasil).
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What build are you going for hiro?
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>>385577042
DQ8 was designed with random encounters in mind. When you remove that you make the game several times more easier.

No longer you have to walk a dungeon without knowing when an enemy would strike you. No longer do you need to worry about encounters when you're poisoned or cursed or whatever. You can just run past everything.
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>>385578936
Damn, unless he's absolutely steamrolling you I'd just try fighting him, make use of kabuff
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>>385578029
>>385578483

You go to the royal crypt and grind there at dungeon's healing spot. Kill all enemies and liquid metal slimes you can find while healing for free.

I broke the game leveling there. My characters got too strong.
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>>385579110
Don't know if they made it better in VIII but in VII it didn't work that way because the hallways were so cramped that you couldn't run away from anything that you didn't want to, and enemies would spawn on top of you all the time.
It made traversing the overworld easier though
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>>385579439
VII was mainly a 2D game so they had more freedom to adapt the environment. VIII was a direct port so it's kinda fucked.
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>>385579293
Ah, Ok.
>>385579159
Really I just need a couple of levels (and maybe swap Borya w/ Ragnar? IDK). Kiryl and Borya keep getting murdered every few turns. That compounded w/ Estark's inconsistent waking and my lacking Multiheal are what screw me over.
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>>385543067
Because I have zero desire to play a vastly inferior version. I'd buy the PS4 version and just stumble my way through if it were like any other modern JRPG (hell, I did that just fine when Persona 5 came out), but DQ has way too much unvoiced dialogue for that to be enjoyable. I'll just wait an eon for the localization.
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Wasn't there a tweet a month ago from someone working on DQXI that the game had just started development on the Switch and/or is having some difficulties?

I just want the Switch version.
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>>385578545
> I think it's pretty damn obvious that each song is made to be recognizable as a variation on the FF1 battle theme

and multiple people in this thread are telling you that you're fucking crazy.
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>>385543067
I don't speak moon.
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>>385579854

The Switch version will just be the 3DS version upscaled.
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>>385580153

No, it will be the PS4 version downscaled to 900p. There would be no way to upscale a 3DS game to 900p or even 720p.
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>>385543067
does the jap version have english subtitles?
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>>385580339
no
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>>385580271
>replying to halwits
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>>385579625
Don't use Borya, use Kiryl and Maya. Maya has Sap to take away Estark's defense and Kiryl has Buff. Borya has sleep shit that don't even work in bosses. He's useless. Plus Maya is cute and can turn into a dragon.
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>>385580271
I agree with you about the Switch version being downscaled from PS4 but you can upscale 3DS games. Monster Hunter XX Switch and Emulation.
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>>385580748
>Use puff thinking it would be half a puff puff
>Turn into a dragon
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>>385580748
Borya has sap too but you're right, he's not a cute girl.
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>>385576768
it's not a remix.
It employs some melodic elements; and references, but it's harmonically different, structurally different, instruments are different, and the original one isn't there anymore.
Hommage, sure, remix, you're pushing it way too far.
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This fucker comes along and smacks your loli daughter's ass, what do?
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>>385581578
I also get smacked in the ass because my dead beat son can't match my healing output due to shit MP.

He is so grounded when he gets rezzed.
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>>385581265

So it's appropriating parts of the FF1 theme, changed it and made it into something new.
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>>385581578

Hit it with a boomerang. That always works.
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i dont moonrunes
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>>385581578
FUCK THIS JUST KILL ME I DON'T EVEN CARE ANYMORE FUCKING BULLSHIT NONE I COULD DO
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>>385581578

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhRK_Og9bkw&t=25m00s
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>>385543067
私の日本語は良いじゃない...
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>>385582082
I enjoy FF14 but i will gladly delete my account if it means getting this.
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>>385582129
俺も
;__;

Also Idon't like grinding.
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>>385582129
Because you've given up or because you are just starting?

If it's the latter then good luck senpai. If it's the first then fuck you shitter.
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>>385581719
No anon. It is merely referencing it.
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>>385582224
I assume you fell for the anki meme? I did last time I tried and it burnt me out when I ended up missing a few days and came back to a 200+ word backlog. I decided to try again and focus my efforts on conquering Genki.
>>385582370
I ain't giving up, if FF11 is anything to go by I have 10 years+ to learn Japanese for DQ10 and telling a former roomate who was a japanese girl why I argued with the housemother, shattered a glass in my hand and left
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>>385575837
What are you talking about and what is candleja
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>>385581719
>So it's appropriating parts of the FF1 theme

it's not. It's a totally different song. You're retarded.

>>385576768
>Every one of those songs start the same

yes

> and have a shared core melody.

no. They don't. At all. You're delusional.
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>>385582480
>>385582657

>it references it
>but it is a totally different song
You guys are the idiots.
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>>385582570
You really enjoy telling this story in every thread don't you?

>anki meme
It's because of ignorant people like you that it's very annoying to have conversations about Japanese in /v/. The amount of shit you read from people who have no idea what is what is overwhelming.
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>>385582842
>you didn't say the same thing as this totally different person who disagrees with me therefore you are an idiot.

Are you mentally well?
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>>385583008
It was two threads including this one, chill.
I said why I hated anki, maybe it'll work for other people but not for me. Fucking Brazilian.
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Chen give me some music from X.
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>>385582842
Are you trolling ?
I'm done with this discussion, I don't think you're delusional, but I think you just refuse to admit you're wrong.
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>>385583204
Not Chen but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rktqy9rLyHM&list=PLFB08913A60F22C40&index=17
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>>385583084
If it doesn't work for you or if you were incapable of properly using it, that's fine. Just don't go around spitting shit like "anki meme" which conveys an entirely different message than "it didn't work for me".

Not only you are ignorant you are fucking delusional throwing random country flags at people.
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This made me redownload DQ VII to finish it. I'm only like 30 hours in send help
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>>385583432
What on earth was I missing? Enlighten me.
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>>385583010

You're saying the song references FF1, which is exactly what I'm arguing. But then in order to keep the argument going, you then say it is a totally different song. Which it can't be if part of it is fucking referencing the FF1 battle theme.
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>>385582570
>telling a former roomate who was a japanese girl why I argued with the housemother, shattered a glass in my hand and left
Were you hear last night? Or I'm getting crazy deja vu
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>>385583521
How the fuck would I know? I didn't watch you study.

Read my post again, I said if it didn't work for you OR if you were incapable of properly using it, that's fine. You are completely missing the point if this is your reply.
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I'm going to do it /v/.

I'm going to play through them all and come back here to say how shit the experience was once and for all.
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>>385583750
True enough, sorry.
To someone who isn't fond of Anki for whatever reason, what would you suggest as an alternative for vocabulary?
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>tfw you finally boot up anki after downloading and installing it 2 years ago
It's actually two years to the date too, coincidentally. 7/29/15
Kinda funny how I get the urge to try learning around this time
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>>385582570
I did anki for a few months, years ago. Then switched to reading. I forget how long I learned for but I could read shounen manga without a dictionary. Then I was hospitalized for a year and just kind of stopped learning because I forgot a lot. I keep telling myself I'll start up again but I kind of switched hobbies to game collecting for now instead. When I was learning it took up all my time, not that I regret it. I regret going to the hospital. I never would have stopped if it weren't for the hospital.
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>>385584503
>I regret going to the hospital
uhhhhhh
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>>385584503
You can't really regret going to the hospital unless you're american or suicidal.
As a game collector I assume you're fed up with reseller rape prices right? Japan's retro game market is still healthy and cheap, if you were to continue learning you could just buy those instead.
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>>385583949
I wouldn't be of much help to you there sadly. I don't do it myself but I know people who simply just read. Just keep reading and picking up the words as they go, words that show up often will stick first as they should. Not sure what else I can say about it.

Personally I can't help but see that as a step back from what I do, which is read the same as them, but then add the words to anki and later do half and hour there instead of half an hour of extra reading. I like to do drawing and work on stroke order too so it makes sense that I work on vocabulary on a separate time as opposed to interrupting my reading to draw kanji midway.

It's very troublesome that some people see reading and anki as mutually exclusive when anki can be a minor tool to complement reading which is of course the main dish. That's one of the signs of someone who most likely had wrong approach towards anki.
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>>385584876
Perhaps I dived into Anki too early, I went into it immediately after learning hiragana. Maybe after completing Genki 1 I'll try it again.
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>>385584503
Why did you end up in the hospital?
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>>385585107
I have schizophrenia and then they committed me and wouldn't let me leave. Even when I felt like I was doing better they didn't believe me.

>>385584840
That would be really cool. I did play that newer monster girl RPG with sprite graphics in Japanese, it was a lot of fun.
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>Never played a Dragon Quest game in my entire life
>Friend gifts me Dragon Quest Heroes 2
>Not a fan of MUSOU but I'll try it out.
>Gameplay kinda shitty but I like the characters and setting.

So, where should I start with this series?
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>>385585751
8 or 5
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>>385585549
that's shame to hear anon, but they probably helped to some degree right?
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>>385585549
Did you have to pay all the bills?
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>>385585751
Well, main DQs are nothing like Heroes as far as gameplay is concerned
And the only one that looks remotely similar to Heroes visually is 11. The rest are pretty dated
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>>385543067
I'm literally installing it right now.
>tfw not an EOP
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>>385586086

I'm looking into the RPGs. I'm guessing they're like Final Fantasy and have no connections between them at all?

The same friend also loaned me a copy of 7 on 3DS, haven't gotten to it because of all the shit I'm currently playing. That 70 completion time is a bit daunting at the moment.
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>>385585751
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>>385586218
>not an EOP
what
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Is anyone hoping the reason they don't bring DQX over is because DQXII will be an HD MMO that will actually make it to the west

Just kidding, no one is hoping for that
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I'm having trouble transcribing one particular word. It's あえた with the 'あ' being the furigana for the kanji. た might just be a partical, not sure. None of the autosuggested kanji line up with it.
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>>385586439

DQI-III are a trilogy and should be played in order. The others have loose connections but don't need to be played in order. There's a lot of hints that DQXI may have story connections to past games though.
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>>385586441
Is X on iOS too?
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>>385586441

Oh nice, thanks anon.
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>>385586524

At this point, I want them to just do what they did with China. Let a third party company take over releasing DQX and running the servers. DQ always does better in the west when another company takes over for SE.
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>>385586550
>'あ' being the furigana for the kanji.
What's the kanji? Nobody can possibly tell you anything without context or the kanji.

Was it 会?
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>>385586603

Yes. But the smartphone and 3DS versions are just a streaming version. So you have to have the game on another platform.
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>>385586696
Nah, it's got this radial in the top right corner攵. Trying to find it on Jisho.
It's in the story recap, the first line being "I am the reincarnation of a hero"
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>>385586835
終える?
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>>385586692
It's because they don't market it for shit.
Really though even if they finally did release 10 it would probably just do fine on one server in the west, it's not like they don't already have data centers for FFXIV worldwide.

I simply don't understand their thinking.
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>>385586794

>smartphone and 3DS versions are just a streaming version

wut
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>>385586835
逢う?
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>>385586835
What story recap? Like when it offers to do a recap when you load a save?

Also, 逢?
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>>385586917
>終
Bingo. I had a real tough time finding it because of the altered form I guess.
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>>385587134
Better work on your hiragana too ;-)
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>>385585928
I guess. They put me on meds that work pretty good. I still feel like they stole my life.

>>385585969
Nah, in Leafland it's free.
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>>385587230
Yup, just noticed that.
I-it's just because the furigana is small af on my DS is all.
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>>385587134
nigga that's おえる not あえる
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>>385587287
>3DS
>Small 240 screen
>Has furigana
>PS4
>1080p
>No Furigana
What
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>>385587287
I remember just learning and I did that too
I was just at that part so I figured that's what it was
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>>385587446
SE likely regards the 3DS as for kids and the PS4 as for adults

I'm playing the PS4 version and would have liked furigana but I'm doing surprisingly well without it. I guess when you've played enough JRPGs you know most of the vocabulary
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>>385586923

>I simply don't understand their thinking.
The pride of Wada. Dragon Quest X came out at the wrong time, when Wada and his hand picked cronies were still in charge of SquareEnix. He was blocking most games from being localized. Right after he got replaced by new management in 2014, pretty much all DQ games (and all other SE games) started getting localized to the west. But we aren't getting the games that came out before 2014, except Dragon Quest VII.

tl;dr Dragon Quest X is stuck in localization hell.
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>>385587594
I suppose it makes sense considering the 3DS version is the 'reach the masses' version and the PS4 is the 'here's to the fans' passion version. No offense to either of course.
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>>385587713
>Localization hell

I think it's more just that MMOs have too much to translate.
Same situation with Phantasy Star.
The games just get too deep into expansions.
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>>385587713
It doesn't help that with each new content update means more of a workload. At the same time I wouldn't mind if North American servers were held back by expansions to accommodate translation times. So what if japs are at V3.whatever and we're only at 1.0? Least the 1.0 we get is in english.
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>>385587778
The artstyle for the 3DS is much more cartoony too
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>>385587919
I really hope we get both versions in North America. My girlfriend really likes the series too but she doesn't have a PS4. If we could play both versions side by side and share our experiences that'd be nice. It would also help spread awareness of the series by slapping it on two established platforms.
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>>385544729
This would be an entertaining cutscene IF IT HAD VOICES.
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>>385588115
Considering the state of 3DS hacking, they'd be stupid not to, since fans would just dump the ps4 text into the Japanese ROM, and then they'd be giving people no choice but to pirate it. I'm sure it'll get localized to every platform
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>>385587778
>passion version
That's a pretty silly statement because you can tell a LOT of passion was put into the 3ds version as well. They pushed it as far as it can go as opposed to simply just picking up resources from other games and whatnot.
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>>385587806

The amount of material to localize isn't a problem. DQVII on 3DS got localized and it's amount of text is arguably just as big as an MMO, if not bigger. They also farm out the translations to third party companies like Plus Alpha or 8-4.

The problem is that after 5 years of sitting on it, they probably think DQX has passed its marketable window. But then it's their fucking fault for not releasing back in 2012.

I would argue that they could still release it now. Heck, release the game with all its expansions at once. Even if people only play it for a month, the amount of people who jump on the latest MMO, all the FFXI fans who want to try it, all the DQ fans and some cross over from FFXIV fans will make it more than worth it in profit. The biggest cost for the game was development, and that's already done.
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>that protag

please tell me the MC is customizable
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>>385576272
>>385574960
If you're talking about the bassline, it's called a motif, anon.
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>>385588516
He can be removed from the party but that's as far as you can go.

I really like him so screw you.
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>>385588427
No one would play an English DQX here.
I feel like a lot of women would though.
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>>385588571
I'll get used to him if I have to, but he looks like a default MC you'd see in trailers prior to the games release because there's a character creator.

I'll deal, taking him out of the party is obviously inherently wrong.
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>>385588339
Well, also consider they could have just dumped the 3DS version onto the PS4 as is, only increasing the resolution, but the went so far above and beyond that. The 3DS version is but a small fraction of the budget that the PS4 version cost

And it's really what the fans wanted. It's been 13 years since a proper console DQ
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>>385588339
Oh yeah, I meant it when I said no offense to either. I'm just going by the interview where the devs said they really wanted to make a game like 8 again.
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>>385588628

>No one would play an English DQX here.
Why?

>I feel like a lot of women would though.
So...people would?
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>>385588794
It goes without saying the ps4 is a bigger production with several times the budget. That's only natural, and it's not about being offensive either. It's about playing the game and realizing a lot of passion was put into it.
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>>385545428
I just grabbed the translated Terry's Wonderland, so that's fucking awesome news. I don't know how I didn't hear about the Joker 3 Pro translation, is there a completion %?
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>>385588932
It's just different culturally with games.
It's exactly why something like Dragon Ball Z is huge here, while Dragon Ball wouldn't be.
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>>385588932
Women are not people and therefore not worth including in calculations.
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>>385583620
>You're saying the song references FF1, which is exactly what I'm arguing. But then in order to keep the argument going, you then say it is a totally different song. Which it can't be if part of it is fucking referencing the FF1 battle theme.

are you so retarded that you assume that multiple replies on an anonymous image board are from the same person even after THE FUCKING POST YOU JUST REPLIED TO spelled it out for you that it's two different people making those statements. Get help.
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>>385589508

Nah. Dragon Ball isn't as popular as Dragon Ball Z because the original Dragon Ball wasn't on Toonami for 20 years like DBZ was. Dragon Ball got a fraction of the exposure and marketing that DBZ did.

Dragon Quest is the same when compared to a series like Final Fantasy or Pokemon. When it comes to a 'cultural' argument, the west should be more inclined to like a game that follows the likes of Ultima and Dragon Ball than a series like Final Fantasy. Final Fantasy just had one of the largest marketing budgets in gaming history, so obviously it got more popular.
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>>385563710
Good. Jap devs need to get off of Sony's dick and spread their games across more platforms. Any Jap who thinks they can get by with just supporting Sony deserves to die.
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>>385589672

>you're a retard, seek help
>no reply to the actual points I made
I'll take that as an angry deflection that you finally understand that the songs are taking influence from FF1 battle theme.
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>>385590064
>I'll take that as an angry deflection that you finally understand that the songs are taking influence from FF1 battle theme.

Why do you seem totally incapable of understanding that that was a different person?
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>buy item at store
>find same item in someone's closet 5 minutes later
SA SU GA DRAQUE
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>>385590727
Why were you buying stuff before exploring the town?
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