Are there any other games with movement and controls as good

>>385535837
should have landed on the fence

>>385536224
Yeah probably but I'm a total shitter so I was just shocked I even made the jump at all.

Source is clunky as fuck for today's standards
Having to sync movement with vision will always feel like crippling the player.

Sure you can post nice rollouts but at the end of the day it's a gimmick product of an imperfect game engine.

Don't get me wrong I've spent countless hours on rj/surf maps but after playing overwatch I honestly feel like going back to tf2 is such a downgrade...

>>385535837
Super Meat Boy has by far the best movement in any game

>>385536515
Baito
>>385536791
Worse physics than Super Mario Bros (read: NO physics)

>>385537002
Bait? How come?
Poorfag in denial?

>>385535837
almost every arena shooter
>>385536515
>strafing
>a gimmick

> after playing overwatch I honestly feel like going back to tf2 is such a downgrade...
shut the fuck up
that terrible strafe delay and movement jitter ruins the game as an fps
you can't properly sync movement and aim without keeping that in mind
because of that overwatch fails as an fps

>>385537404
Report and ignore

>>385535837
>whiffs initial rocket
>doesnt airshot him
>is still playing tf2
should have quit 3 years ago

>>385537404
Guessing you're a medic main who for some reason needs to praise strafe just because it's the only way to showoff they have?

also;
Delay and jitter? You're getting them mixed up, overwatch is the good one and tf2 is the one that has 5gb of game and 12gb of cosmetics

Overwatch

Yeah I couldn't say that with a straight face.

>>385535837
>tf2
>smooth movement
TF2 is clunky as fuck what the hell are you talking about?

>>385536791
The End is Nigh is better.

>>385537824
have you played overwatch or tf2?
tf2 has precise movement and good gameplay compared to overwatch
if you can't notice jittery movement and movement delay you probably do not played alot of fps games/overwatch is your first fps
keep in mind, i am not defending team fortress 2
i just want to point out how bad overwatch movement is compared to every other fps
tf2 just has average source movement

>>385537824
>>385538090
Good movement was the one thing I was hoping for around Overwatch's release, and they went out of their way to simplify it/gimp it in the name of character balance and attracting a broader audienxe. I'm looking at Junkrat's grenade jumps all sending him at a fixed angle here.

>>385538517
>playing any sub-arena assfaggots/team based shooter in 2017

>>385538354
I do know there was a bug on low end pc's that caused input delay. Maybe you should check it yourself.

As for most people no, there is no movement delay and jitteryness.

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Is there any other good action game with horrible movement.

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>>385535837
>Showboating towards the fight
>Dies because he spent all his health on rocket jumping

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>>385538610
Well I stopped playing Overwatch a while ago, and I recently stopped playing TF2 so I wouldn't be burnt out by the time its big update finally fucking drops. So I guess I'm not playing one unless you wanna count Splatoon 2.

Dirty Bomb

>>385538716
nobody believes you, you're straight out lying
everyone shittalks overwatch movement, because it's trash and unresponsive
the game is a joke

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>>385538610
assfaggots "shooters" like paladins and overwatch have horrible movement so shitters can land their abilities, unlike arena shooters where actual skill is involved even on movement
i.e: they feel as if you were playing heavy all the time

>>385537404
>almost every arena shooter

Not Quake Live or Quake Champions.

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>>385538962
>tfw even heavy is more interesting

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>>385538773

Titanfall 2. It uses the source engine too and you can feel it. There's also lots of ways to abuse the system like slide hopping and using the grappling hook.

>>385538925
>lies! everyone says overwatch is bad so it must be!!
Underages please refrain from posting and lurk moar

Did anyone suggest Warframe? i like how fluid all the shooting and weird parkour shit is.

>>385539307
>defends overwatchs movement
>calls others underage
how about posting some actual arguments next time instead of lying

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>>385538778
With the equalizer, everyone gets instagibbed no matter how high your health is.

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>>385539307
very few weapons have knockback in overwatch
majority of characters move as fast as tf2's heavy
there are no complex or advanced movement mechanics in overwatch
air strafing is worthless as every character drops like a brick in the air
all characters have the same weight

overwatch objectively has shit movement

>>385538962
hence why I said sub-arena shooters, they have some element they took from arena shooters, and tf2 is no exception. slow as fuck, more "forgiving" combat (insane rocket spread for soldier for example)

>>385539662
>when tf2 was good and the equalizer made you do more dmg And move faster
How is having a mad man with 1 hit running around " game breaking " in valves opinion? That's fun as fuck.

>>385538173
get good

>>385539551
No no, I get it, your first fps was TF2. It's normal, it went free to play and your daddy didn't have to pay for anything. You really have grown fond to it and you defend it with everything you've got.
But you need to grow up and face reality, games come and go, overwatch is simply the best on the market right now. When you get some years on your back you will understand.

>>385539723
>I have not even played the beta: the post

>>385538889
This. Needs more places to double wall jump though.

>>385539723
>majority
As far as I know, ONLY Tracer and Genji have a base movement speed above everyone else's, and even then it is minutely faster. Not even the big tanks and whatnot like Roadhog have a slower-than-average speed, which is why they had a hell of a time trying to balance that guy. I can only assume the game had significantly differing movement speeds at some point but the decision was made to make everyone move the same to maintain the similarities to MOBAs.

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>>385535837
>Build a level 3 sentry
>Equip wrangler
>Shoot a rocket at my feet and jump with it
>Very low health
>Die of fall damage

>>385539957
shut the fuck up.
I am not defending team fortress 2 you fucking moron, i want nothing to do with that game.
I'm pointing out how bad overwatch is as an fps
>overwatch is simply the best on the market right now
oh i see

>>385539843
>insane rocket spread for soldier for example
splash damage is important because it punishes deathballing and encourages players to spread out and work individually.

>>385540147
It has obviously been one fag pretending to be retarded the whole time.

>>385540115
>STILL no melee that reduces sentry jump damage
Slap it on the bleed wrench or something.

>>385539957
fuck off blizzdrone, im playing tf2 because quake is even more dead.
even if tf2 dies, im not touching the shit that is overwatch

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>>385539957
>I have not even played the beta: the post
Not an argument, name a single thing that was incorrect in my post.

>>385540109
>base movement speed
then soldier is objectively the slowest tf2 class?
Only a handful are really slow: roadhog, anna, zen, zarya (if you can't m2 yourself properly to gain momentum), hanzo & orisa

>>385540318
hello op
>>385540147
Alright kiddie, gimme a "good" fps in your eyes.

>>385540424
They're all slow as ass compared to scout though.

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>>385536515
>having to sync movement with vision
What the fuck does that mean? You cant look at the screen and move at the same time? What?

>>385540424
No, Heavy would still take that position because GRU doesn't count as "base". And I'd say Zarya blast jumps fall into the category of "minutely faster" anyway. The sad thing is that in spite of everyone moving more or less the same slowish speed when not using their abilities with cooldowns, last points in Overwatch are cancer 95% of the time because the spawn is so fucking close to the point and even tapping the objective blocks its movement for like 2 seconds. Not even gonna get into the fact that characters are allowed to contest while INVULNERABLE.
>>385540734
If you're air strafing you kinda have to steer your camera around instead of just pressing directional buttons, it takes practice.

>>385540515
games i've had good memories from
>REFLEX
>quake 3
>quake live
>titanfall 2
>F.E.A.R
>CoD4 promod
here's one thing to keep in mind, overwatch is going for a moba/arena shooter style game which generally requires precision and precise movement, and it fails at that

pardon me for being a newfag with regards to shooters but are there any shooters than maintain momentum in movement?

for example, changing direction actually slows you down so ADspam isn't a thing

>>385540632
>rushing to the middle of the map in a pub game and rushing a sentry in a op spot while pubs dont take it serious until its too late

>>385541067
That sounds god awful.

>>385536515
>>385537824
>>385538090
>>385539957
>have tf2 thread
>there's always this one insecure faggot wailing on about overwatch

I know. Deep inside your heart you realize that overwatch is shit, but try not to be too jealous will you. Will talking about tf2 here. You can make a seperate thread dedicated to overwatch if you'd like.

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>>385540424
just because they can rollout to mid fast doesn't mean they can use their abilities all the time. for example reinhardt's charge is incredibly risky, d.va/sombra/76 can't move and shoot, junkrat has to waste his landmine to jump, pharah needs a wall to boost off of, mercy needs teammates to fly, reaper is a sitting duck while shadow stepping, etc etc. You also forgot torb, bastion, mei, symmetra, who have no movement abilities at all.

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>>385535837
Paladins is TF2 but better.

>>385540424
youre missing the point, think about movement "freedom" and control, not just walking speed. you can control your jump, your rocket jump can vary in angle, damage, height and speed depending on many things you can do, this also applies to all enemies attacks and even your basic jumps to a certain degree, i.e: there is actual momentum

>>385540539
But then you should compare the scout with tracer which obviously is the equivalent there. And then in terms of speed from A to B they are both equally fast. Without keeping in mind you could also have lucio around and make everything faster.

>>385540734
You lose momentum if you don't. Look it up, it's in all source games.

>>385541043
>titanfall 2
>quake live
>FEAR
Is this bait?
If that's your honest answer for a list of good fps I'm wasting my time here.

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>>385541067
Are you wanting a tactical, slow shooter? Maybe red orchesrra or something. I'd suggest Siege but unfortunately 3-speed ops exist.

>>385538827
Honestly splatoon is much more competitive game than ow.

The fact that you lose ult when die and the godlike squido movements sets the game much fall away from hot trash that is overwatch in terms of depth.

>>385541350
>You lose momentum if you don't. Look it up, it's in all source games.
Of course you fucking lose momentum if you move and look at the screen separately, like, are you unable to multi-task to such degree that you can't coordinate eyes and hands? That is not normal, you should check at the doctor, you're probably retarded.
OverHype fanbase everyone

>>385541067
You used to be able to bhop to keep your momentum going but now no fun is allowed

>>385541350
can you actually post arguments instead of being a retard?

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>>385541350
>motherfucking quake live is worse than ow

You blew it op. Better luck next time

>>385535837
The gunplay is trash and movement doesn't feel at all natural

>>385541541
>all those ramps stages have
>no way to slide around and do sick jumps off them
I feel like there could be more to Splatoon's movement but at the same time it would be annoying having rollerfags falling on you out of the sky.

>>385540424
Pretty much every OW character moves at the same speed, only Tracer moves a bit faster. Of course you can use various abilities to "move" faster, but base speed of every character is the same which makes them feel samey.

>>385540996
>If you're air strafing you kinda have to steer your camera around instead of just pressing directional buttons, it takes practice.

Are you saying that's a bad thing? That's part of what makes it feel so good. Once you get the hang of airstrafing it feels really natural.

>>385541910
No I'm not saying it's a bad thing, I was explaining to what he was referring.

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>>385541381
Even in red orchestra movement can be pretty important. Dropping weapons to go faster, crouch spamming when crossing open areas, diving to prone into trenches, lean spamming to avoid headshots and bayonets, and jumping around corners to take less damage.

>>385541067
The vast majority of shooters do this, even Quake has acceleration so you can't just ADspam. The only games that don't are shit like Overwatch, where you instantly move at full speed the second you push a button, and your character model spazzes out when you ADADAD so nobody can headshot you.

>>385542140
Well I was honestly taking a wild guess because I've never played a RO game, I just assumed it was a grisly war sim game that wouldn't have people bunny hopping around. I can see that I was wrong.

>>385541350
funny, because all those games are better than overwatch by a long shot

>>385542327
RO1 is more like what you're describing but it's pretty much dead.

>>385541290
>paladins
>better than anything