Wolfenstein

Reminder that BJ becomes a cyborg.

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It was both the writing , direction AND the impressively outstanding delivery.

Regarding his ending, I'm pretty sure it's part of BJ's character to have nothing left but Anya to fight for. He was in a downwards mental spiral in TNO questioning if it was worth it to bother anymore because of how even if he did kill every single one of them nazis, he already lost so much and failed so much. The guy knows deep down that taking out the regime is near fucking impossible, and it bites him on the inside.

Also why the fuck do so few people talk about the soundtrack? It's probably some of Mick's most emotional work, some track really hit the feels here.

https://youtu.be/SC-_u2afoBo

Also, is it me or does BJ looks uglier in this game?

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>>385523852
Might be the new engine. He had some unflattering angles in New Order too.

>>385523852
he's dying, also in Fergus' timeline he gets a new body instead of the jew armor

>>385523914
I thought he looked sloppy in the new difficulty setting menu.

>>385523980
That could explain it, but if he is, will he still live long enough to get another game after this one?
Because i thought they were planning on a trilogy.

>>385524097
Probably, depending on how much Da'at Yichud armor or the body transplant will help stave off organ failure.

>>385524005

I AM DEATH INCARNATE

>>385524097
there will be an ARG in the season pass

>>385522876
In all honesty should have had The New Order as the last game with him in it cause that ending was gold. They could of moved on to this new game with a new protagonist (like whoever you saved at the beginning of TNO) and continue from there.

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>>385524247
The DLC is already starring different characters.

>>385523980
i wonder how each will affect the gameplay, we already know the jew armor allows you to smash through walls

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>>385524225

>ARG

What do you know? Speak, motherfucker!

>>385524335
listen carefully

i pulled it outta my ass ;)

>>385522876
Because he's a tired man. He's tired of the fighting, the killing, the watching people die. But fighting is the only thing he can do. Both the writing and the actor's delivery are on point to conveying this.

>>385524283
that looks pretty good

hopefully atleast one of them will be as entertaining as BJ

>>385524097
>The Old Blood
>The New Order
>The New Colossus

>>385522876
>a generic Nathan Drake-type, gave him a bunch of flowery and often flamboyant dialogue
You know how I know you didn't play the game?

>>385524416
The Old Blood was an overgrown DLC.

>>385524416
but the Old Blood is just standalone DLC

>>385524493
Watch them count it for part of the trilogy

>>385524465
That's what he was in Wolfenstein '09, though. Just your generic quip hero. That's probably why New Order's writer disliked it so much.

>>385524283
each of these better be atleast AS GOOD as the Old Blood

if so ill be one happy nazi killing terrorist

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>>385524005
I think it's because his head and neck is smaller. His massive frame worked because he had a giant thick neck that just extended into his manly man skull.

>Alternate history future nazi slaughtering protagonist
>Genuinely one of the most emotionally engaging leading men in recent memory
How? HOW?

>>385524647
>Killed Mecha Hitler, a reincarnation of Heinrich the first, mutants, super soldiers, zombies skeletons, nazi dudes, nazi chicks, dogs etc.
>Possibly crippled the Cyberdemon
>Possibly related to the Doomguy
>Took the Spear of Destiny multiple times and kicked demon ass after it
>Survived multiple occasions, where one could have died easily
>Had to walk throuhg the shitty ass levels of Wolf 3D and at times, even had to drink blood and eat dog food to survive
>Literally nicknamed "BJ"

Like a good mix of captain America and Indiana Jones or something

>>385524647
voice acting i don't know for the english dubs but the french dubs are great

>>385522876
"Wake up. You're dead"
"Okay. Okay. You put a Nazi on the Moon. Fuck you Moon"
"Right. Nazis dead. Nazi Robots dead. Broke all your shit. Helicopter secured"
"Count to 4. Inhale. Count to 4. Exhale"
BJ is a tired old man who can't stop fighting till the job is done. Kill so many people, watching others die when he comes out alive every time has taken a toll on him. He is perfect.

He just seems so sad. I wanna hug him.

>>385525056
He needs to live long enough to lead to the existence of Commander Keen.

>>385524876
>possibly
he's the first BJ, Keen the 2nd, DOOMnigga is the 3rd

>>385522876
>>385523375
>>385524387
>>385525056
What the fuck are you lot on about? It was very basic dialogue and very basic voice acting. Why do people consider it the second coming when it's so generic?

>>385525212
The only thing generic here is your criticism.

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>>385525056
dont forget this magnificent scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTwSkd7QcG8

>"Killed your fucking dog, Rudi"

>>385525316
Or your taste.

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>When I was a kid, we had a monster in our basement. My father said if I done wrong, it’d creep out at night and come for me. I tried to do no wrong. The monster came all the same

>>385525452
Who was the monster?

>>385522876
It is very good delivery for a video game. Possibly the only good thing about Wolf TNO.

BJ has such sad eyes.

>>385524283
MUH BLACKS
MUH WOMEN

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>385525580
I think that's why it worked. They found a logical direction to take the original 'mass murdering hero man'. One that doesn't make him any less manly or conflict with all the killing, but works with it.

>>385523375
TNO's OST is overshadowed by Doom 2016 soundtrack, and for a good reason t b h

>>385523980
>in Fergus' timeline he gets a new body instead of the jew armor
huh?

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>>385525564
The literal monster in the literal basement.

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>Quake 1 was the first PC game I ever played
>Immediately fell in love with everything about it at 7 years old
>would play it every day for 30min, which was my computer time allowance at the time
>love Quake 2 and 3
>Bethesda buys id and starts pumping out classic IPs
>new Wolfenstein was great
>new Doom was great
>another Wolfenstein in the works
>but Quake only gets a 'id Champions' arena game basically

I'm kind of mad. After Doom and Wolfenstein, I know they could do a great fucking Quake game in the spirits of one, but they choose to keep it in the direction of a tourney shooter.

I don't dislike Quake 3, and Quake Champions has been damn fun on the beta, but fuck man. I really want a new Quake campaign game that isn't space marines again. Quake 4 felt so much like Doom. I want some black magic necropolis shit with Eldritch shit popping up again.

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>>385525741
>TNO's OST is overshadowed by Doom 2016 soundtrack, and for a good reason t b h

>he doesnt listen to Die Käfer

fucking schweinehund

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69z_IN64EG4

>>385525939
I feel like new id can't do multiplayer anymore, because even if they get it right in some way, they'll get it wrong in another, intentionally or not.
It makes sense, considering arena shooters are the Smash Melee of shooters, but with a new singleplayer Quake, they could have expanded the ideas of the first game and its expansion packs.

>>385523375
>Nazi gets a strawberry milkshake
>The instant he starts drinking from it, the cup sounds like it's empty
FUCK YOU BETHESDA YOU HAD ONE JOB

>>385525939
Quake 1 didn't have a "spirit", it was a mishmash of ideas with very blurry vision in mind. Quake 2 is very different, Quake 3 is multiplayer shooter that overshadowed Q1-2, Q4 wasn't all that popular so they decided to stick with multiplayer formula (as you've just said, they have released two singleplayer games already). I mean what the fuck would a singleplayer Quake be? Demonic stuff from Q1, strogg stuff from Q2 or different generic scifi strogg stuff from Q4? Majority cares about Q3 multiplayer, it's iconic at this point

Old Blood was good but I felt like it took too long for the super natural shit to kick in. By the time it does, the DLC is over a bit over an hour later. Prior to that, it feels like more of the same shit from TNO.

Still great game though.

>>385526113
Q1 had a bit of inspiration from H.P. Lovecraft, while one of the expansions brought the hammer of Thor.

>>385526113

A new Quake SP game would very clearly be what was stated in the dude's post.

> I want some black magic necropolis shit with Eldritch shit popping up again.

Quake 1 had otherworldly creatures, undead, interdimensional troopers, and abominations. nothing about any of it ever pertained to demons.

Quake was also only a mishmash of an originally planned RPG involving a magic hammer, that turned FPS when certain aspects of the RPG failed to turn out properly.

Quake 1 also did have a spirit, you retard.

>NAZIS WUZ BAD AND SHIEET
>MUH JEWISH TEKNOLOGEEE
Oy vey!

>>385526301
Q1 had a lot of inspiration from a lot of different things but the end result was, thematically, an incoherent mess
I still think that this is what made Doom 1 so appealing

>>385525806
In the Wyatt version of New Colossus cutscenes, BJ is wearing his New Order jacket with the Da'at Yichud cyborg armor underneath it, to let him be able to move and keep being alive since the grenade he took at point blank range along with all the other horrible injuries he's taken over the years have finally caused his organs to start shutting down and left him paralyzed from the waist down.

In the Fergus version, BJ is wearing the neck ring, which he means they transplanted his head onto a new body.

The difference here is that up until you start upgrading and unlocking perks, BJ's health meter with the power armor is stuck at 50 like it was at the start of the game, but his armor meter goes higher.

Conversely, getting a new body makes your stats more conventionally rounded with 100 health, 100 armor.

Add on top of that other special equipment like the wacky stilt boots to get BJ over tall obstacles, or the thing that just punches through walls.

Obviously by the time you get to replaying the other timeline, perks will have trivialized this.

>>385526347
i played Q1, loved it, but to be honest it felt more or less like DOOM on 3D, therefore if they released a new SP Quake today id feel more or less like the last DOOM, in my opinion, taking the MP route was the best choice

>>385524564
>tripfag doesn't know what they're talking about
What a surprise. One of the developers hinted that we may end up seeing Mecha Hitler as the "final boss" of the trilogy (since in their eyes, you can't really top fighting against MH for Wolfenstein), and he wasn't referring to New Colossus.

>>385524283
>DLC3
Oh my god. Just imagine... D-Day Omaha Beach in the Wolfenstein universe and idtech engine. It might be enough to make it stop being overplayed.

>been in plenty of dark and dirty sewers but they were never this dark and dirty
>sewer is crystal clear and well lit

the game's writing was a joke, and not a very good one

>>385526592
location design is writing now

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>>385526571
>D-Day Omaha Beach in the Wolfenstein universe and idtech engine. It might be enough to make it stop being overplayed.

dude, did you read the papers in the Old Blood?, in the wolf timeline D-Day was a disaster, countless brits and americans died while less than 300 germans died, the survivors were rounded up and used as slave labor to build a museum commemorating the nazi victory

the third DLC probably takes place in some other theater of the war

>>385526571
Maybe a storming of an English beach mirroring it? Not much stopping the Nazis from a direct assault in that timeline.

>>385526478

They could pull it off. The themes between Quake and Doom would be largely polar if they did it right. A new SP Quake game would just have to be more dark-medieval and unnerving in tone as opposed to Doom's dark hellish space themes. They could also revolve the gameplay around a magic rune gimmick or some shit, giving you special abilities and what not.

It could still be a fast-paced shoot-em-up and feel different than Doom '16.

>>385526884
MAYBE the magic weapons and shit might make it different enough, maybe

but then again the original quake didnt feature much of that

>>385526820
Third DLC takes place in Alaska. The name "Operation Black Sun" makes me think they might be revisiting some occult shit again.

>>385527174
That's a German flak tower they're pointing at. Like they built in Europe. Maybe some kind of resistance effort up north?

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>>385524247
the original had the best ending

I kind of wanted to play this, but I can't go back to taking post war propaganda seriously

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i always wondered why did they call him "blow job blazcowicz" ?

is it how he survived military prisons?

>>385526382
Ebin post my fellow frogposter xd.
>>385527434
But you sure take post-war nazi propaganda seriously.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcrn8Gng9NY
Is there a better track for fighting a hopeless resistance against overwhelming odds because you have no other choice?

>>385522876
FUCK WHITE PEOPLE

>>385522876
Amazing presentation and impeccable voice-acting really sold it.

so is BJ actually crippled from getting fucked up in TNO instead of walking it off?

that's pretty cool actually

>>385527572
Yeah. This.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyHIAtfTkKU

Only problem was it wasn't LOUD ENOUGH in game.

I wish Western devs weren't so afraid of their own soundtracks.

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>>385527554
>he thinks BJ stands for blowjob

BJ stands for Buff Jock

>>385527334
YEEEEAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>385522876
I felt like they ruined the character. Nothing about him was special, his personality was non existent, and the self spoken dialogue felt like a failed attempt to give him a personality but all it did was make awkward or otherwise edgy commentary.

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>>385527749
>Buff Jock

>>385527684
I agree. I've played a number of games lately where there's been some great piece of music... in the background. When you have a great track to go with a great moment, you need it pumping loud. Usually. Playing to a cool song makes a cool moment even cooler. Devs need to embrace the power of it.
>>385527782
But he's not edgy. He's tired. So very tired.

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>>385527684
>Max Hass...

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>>385527782
Absolutely. Utterly. Bottom-Tier Taste.

>possibly the best written protagonist in a shooter?

Ugh, no

>>385525056
This. I liked the perspective of this guy who's had several games killing all sorts of nazis and yet they still strive and prosper, and here's BJ just having to go trough the same motions.

>>385527951
Its because they think having music tell you what to feel is a bad thing.

They're just afraid of their writing being overshadowed by good music.

Good Music can help sell writing that has flaws and can make GOOD scenes into godtier ones.

No One would care about Halo's story if it wasn't for Marty O'Donnell's score being so good.

Nier Automata wouldn't have worked as well as it did if the music wasn't fantastic and mixed such that when you hit a music trigger and the lyrics kicked in you felt like YOUR ACTIONS were conducting the soundtrack.

>>385528017
At this point all he has is the fight. There's nothing else for him. Nothing else he can do. He's fought so hard and for so long, with nothing but the destruction of his home and the ideals he fought for to show for it. They somehow turned Buff McHeroDude into a tragic hero and it works brilliantly.

>>385528186
And that's a fair concern, but there's moments where the music complementing the emotion of the scene is perfect. The music can't carry a scene but it can do so much to enhance it.

>>385528186
This.
I feel like it's a case with MGS where the story is weird, but the music can help to make it sadder.

>>385528296

They're too afraid of having good music playing over a bad scene. They need to take risks.

>>385527026

And Doom never originally had glory kills, weapon attachments, armor HP and ammo upgrades, challenges, or any of that shit either.

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>>385522876
Just posting because I wanted to say this guy is one of the most legit terrifying antagonists in video gaming and the voice actor was amazing in every scene. Needed more of him.

>>385526096
I hate this the most. Whenever anyone sips from a Milkshake it makes the empty sound. Really rustles my jimmies

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>>385528524

ok point taken

>>385528582
What is wrong with his face?

>>385528582
he was certainly underused, pretty sadistic motherfucker

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>>385527782
What was BJ before? Did he have a personality? He was just a carboard cutout that changed personality depending on the dev. The fact that this BJ has some actual levity and care for what's going around makes him stronger. And put yourself in his shoes, you've been fighting and killing nazis for decades, and no matter how much you accomplish, they still survive and even over power.
BJ keeps winning the battles but not the war.

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>>385524283
The DLC to the right looks cool as fuck. The other two look kind of lame, though.

>wanting to die for a world where niggers live near white people as equals

for what purpose

>>385527782
You mean he had no character whatsoever before that, there's nothing to ruin because he had nothing. Now they gave him a character and you don't like that, but it doesn't mean the character is bad. I think he's okay.

>>385528703
well hes 100 years by the end of The New Order, i believe it is implied he experimented on himself to extend his life artificially

>>385526564
But isn't Wolf 3D canon in the current timeline so Mecha Hitler is dead?

>>385528761
>Cool nigga shooting robots with pistols
>Femme fatale assassin trying to shoot hitler
idk man they all look pretty cool to me.

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>>385528186
Losing Marty O'Donnell is one of the worst things that could have happened to Bungie. Not even his music could save Destiny from being boring and shallow, but there were little moments which were made entirely by his music, like otherwise ordinary skyboxes and wave survival fights like the early story mission where the Hive turn up at a communications station. It's the same shit but I can almost forget that because the backing track is so good.

>>385528703
He just loves life.

>>385527618
yes the plot twist is jew armor is just for the trailers to hype the game, you spend the entirety of new colossus in wheelchair

>>385528761
i dunno, Tyrone The Ten Ton Tyrant Terror looks interesting, it reminds me of BJ with that jacket

>>385522876
I was told the upcoming game has communist sympathies in it. Can someone tell me if this is true or not and, if it is, where I can see it

>>385529089
>>385527618
BJ is definitely one of the most heavily plot armored characters of all time

>>385527554
Eric, absolutely eric

>>385528582

"I'm a happy man, you see?"

His line delivery and sadistic tone made me fucking hate his guts so fucking much.

>>385528761
With the left one, they said we'll be going back to outer space. Maybe they saw how people were disappointed with the moon surface sections and we'll get more low-grav stuff.

>>385529180
No, it's just that game mechanics actually narratively apply to him.

So he really can just walk off getting stabbed repeatedly in the chest.

>>385528582
>>385528729
What is it with video games and underutilizing villains?

>>385522876
>season pass
fuck this shit
gonna pirate it and when it's really cheap I'll may buy it

>>385529259
Doesn't change the fact that he's got more plot armor than a tank, though. Fucker can literally take multiple bullets to the head and shrug it off in game. He's basically doomguy levels of tough

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>>385528582
>Captain Blazkowicz. I've heard a lot about you. We have the same name, you and I. Wilhelm, William. But, you call me "Deathshead". I don't like it. I'm a happy man, you see? It doesn't sound right in English. Say it correctly. Toten...kopf.

>>385529314
>Played the game
>Saw literally no modern politics in it, just a what-if based on an alternate outcome to the most important conflict in modern history
>Had fun
I feel for you, anon.

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god this thread made me appreciate how fucking good the characters in the new Wolfenstein games are, both protagonists and antagonists, im a sucker for good characters in my stories

>>385529314
It's also literally been confirmed in literal footage of the literal game that the nazis are literally worse than any form of racism that you can see today, as shown by the fact that even the KKK are fucking terrified of them, as the great evil.

>>385529248
>Joseph Stallion
Alright, you got me there

There's a Doom mod inspired by Wolfenstein The New Order, if anyone is interested
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IidWOaFw70U

>>385529384
Runs in the family then.

>>385529437
I think my favorite character is Engel. She is such a detestible evil bitch, you just can't help but enjoy her screen presence.

Billy Blowjob's reason for existence is the wholesale slaughter of all nazzy scum. Giving him a sappy "something worth fighting for" in the form of a disposable wife and kids is lazy, stupid, and unfaithful to the roots of the character. A killing machine has no use for pathos.

>>385529321
>not posting Seinfeld.jpg

Ya blew it

is the old blood worth getting?

>>385529437
It makes me appreciate how much real love and care went into the game. It could've been carried by the mechanics. The combat was great, some of the best in a modern shooter. But so much genuine attention and effort went into the setting and the characters that inhabit it. It's an absolutely magical thing to see in the most production-line era of gaming that's ever been.

>>385528582
I swear I never hated an antagonist so much as that monster.
The job's done with him is magnificent

>>385529670
It's more of TNO. If you liked that, you'll like it.

>>385528990
No, RtCW and 2009 is.

>>385529421
The New Collussos I mean, there is a gif going around with some nazis talking about "the tolerant left"

>>385529613
she also treats her own daughter like shit in the new game, boy she literally has no redeeming qualities, love it

>>385522876
I loved everything about New Order. I only played when my fiance was in the room, and we had a blast playing through it. In fact I don't think we enjoyed a game as much as TNO until Witcher 3 came along.

>>385529701
It's funny that Bethesda's publishing side keeps improving with genuine care and love for games and this industry, while Bethesda's dev side keeps getting lazier and scummier.

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>>385527964

>have a friend who's brother was born mentally crippled
>he is unironically the sweetest and most innocent guy I ever known

>>385529852
Anon, it's a joke. The joke is that the enemies are taking a reasonable position on something in dialogue moments before you slaughter them. It's a joke as old as enemy dialogue in video games.

>>385529670
i liked it, its has less cutscenes than TNO, BJ is cooler, but theres less variation and the weapons arent as cool as in TNO

>>385528582
I liked him more in RTCW

>>385529670
Definitely. I personally found it more enjoyable than TNO because gameplay isn't broken up nearly as much by cutscenes and plot development. Doesn't mean I'm indicting TNO for it however, the base game is still GOTY 2014 for me, it's just an observation I made.

GET PSYCHED

>>385529852
yeah and theres a scene in The Old Blood in which one nazi annoyingly corrects the spelling of another, a literal grammar nazi

its a fucking joke

>>385529956
Mentally ill people are polarizing like that. It's either an aggressive autist that will smear his shit all over furniture and clothes with a grin and then start shrieking and attacking people/throwing stuff if he doesn't like something or it's a kind person that likes fluffy things and giggles a lot.

>>385529973
I like to hope im just thinking too much into this.
I also hope for my own sake that youre right too

>>385528990
>>385529851
Actually, Hitler really is dead.

It's just that they brought him back, you see.

There's a reference to it in TNO; how someone met the Furher, but his hand, when shook, was oddly cold and clammy.

Mecha Hitler's still on the menu for game 3.

>>385529314
Just gonna torrent this shit anyway, ain't getting money from me.

>>385529670

Its New Order with less story but more gameplay. I'd argue its a fun time but don't expect a long game.

Killed your fucking dog Rudy

>>385530131
I agree that it'd suck if politics got stuck in the game. But TNO was free of it and I've seen no indication other than /pol/tards shitposting that it's going to change.

>>385529613

The Train scene alone was enough for me to hate and fear the living shit out of her. Now that is solid writing and top tier acting.

I just realized the console versions of RTCW had extra missions that included the armored dogs, before they were in TNO.

>>385529851
I doubt it since B.J looks nothing like he did in those

>>385527964
I choked when Klaus got shot, then I choked again when Max Hass came out of nowhere and starting crushing Nazi skulls after the game built him up to be a pacifist. Probably the most moving sequence of the game imo.

>>385529956
you made me think about this song about a kid being born with mental deficiencies (its in spanish but fuck it)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zefiRO3dZuU

pretty goddamn sad

back to Wolf, the interactions between Klaus and Max were handled so well, i was mad as FUCK when those nazi bastards got Klaus

So what was the deal with Max? was he a failed super soldat candidate?

>>385530131

I'm leftie but I just wish there was more of a effort by people to UNDERSTAND the people they're strawmanning.

Jesus, the "altright" has so many different groups and sure, some of legit nazis, some pretend nazi, contrarians, shitposters, all sorts.

calling r/the_donald posters nazis might as well be an insult to the actual nazis

Just dissapointing


I really hope TNC sticks to actual nazis, New Order did is so well.

>>385529945

That may explain why the marketing team tries to make the games look like shit so they dont sell at launch.

I still remember the Doom marketing and especially Prey's, just what the fuck where they thinking?

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>>385522876
Posting pure kino.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4CDo9dywUY

>>385530426

>His father thought it was a punishment from the Lord

Native spanish speaker and I sure didnt ask for these feels anon.

>>385530131
New Order and several other games do these sort of things where they'll show enemies you gun down in the hundreds as being normal people, giving you that moment of hesitation before killing them. I wouldn't worry. Even if politics get involved, it will still be in-game and not "totally not trump" talking about using a frog as a replacement for the swastica or something.

>>385529321
Too much exposure makes the villain more likely to have a dumb line of dialogue or seem less threatening. When you keep the villain in a few scenes those few scenes have greater impact, when a villain is alongside the main story it's a fine line to not make them annoying.

This might interest you guys.

>>385530607
>What is that?
>Some kind of weapon!
Is that an oblique 'this machine kills fascists' reference?

>>385530359
B.J. himself makes a reference to RtCW.

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>>385530814
Forgot Picture

>>385529314

>Mad that the writers made a connection with Nazi's and Neo-nazi's
>Implying BJ or half the original resistance members were far from liberal

Boy you are a new kind of retard

>>385530359
Deathshead was introduced in RtCW and Caroline in Wolf 09. So they are definitely canon.

Wolf 3D and Spear of Destiny are up in the air but might be canon, Wolf 09 references the Spear of Destiny and New Order mentions Hitler was unusually cold to touch.

>>385530582
Yeah. I think the marketing team knows that Beth's devs are slacking off but they still have to hype them more than id, Arkane or Machingames.

>>385524582
>That's probably why New Order's writer disliked it so much.
Got a source? It's fun to see writers trash writing

>>385530892
And 3D, and even 09 is canon since that's how he knows the Kreisau Circle and Caroline.

>>385529148
Theres a part in one trailer where some old dude in the resistance meets BJ and talks about how the proletariat went to die in WW2 for money but BJ starts arguing with him, its not a very long part though. It actually sounded like it might be mocking commies considering the guy was hating the government for sending Americans to die in the war against the Nazis. I dont see how there will be alot of commie sympathies if BJ, an all American man from the 1940s, is the main protagonist.

>>385526096
He realllyyy likes strawberry milkshake.

>>385530783
Damn. I love when we get these sort of perspectives. Instead of being "oh I'm blessed to have a child, even if retarded or damaged in some way." Just, "it's tiresome, I didn't want this."
>>385530839
Possibly. Fucking love that scene.

>>385530957
And there you go, you just called people who werent liberals nazis

This is the kind of shit im worried about seeing in the game

>>385529148
>>385531081
The guy appears around 5:56 in the trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHht8480cEo&t=152s

>>385530919
they would have bee retarded not to use it
new orders runs very badly on amd card they wouldn't repeat that mistake

>>385530919

Based Tiago, thanks anon!

Id Tech 666 made my cock fucking hard performance wise.

>>385528582
I think they did a good job of not overexposing him.

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>>385528761
Considering you're using content from one of the most overrated anime as a reaction image I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it's because a black man and a woman are present, isn't it?

>>385529148

nigga portraying commies is not the same as endorsing em, and if they are a sizeable resistance group, BJ might be willing to work with them, hed work with pretty much anyone if it means killing more nazis

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>>385531207

>filename

>>385530131
Depiction =/ endorsement.
Fuck's sake.

>>385531208

... dafuq?

When did I say that?

The hell is wrong with you nigga?

>>385531473

At this point even the KKK might try to help, considering they heavily dislike the Nazi's too ( see the recent gameplay vid )

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>>385530580
If everyone is a nazi then no one is a nazi. The left's strawmanning is the biggest boon the right ever had.

>>385531615
thatd be fucking hilarous, i approve

>>385531615
I doubt it. Game journalists go into a tizzy if a female character is depicted in a bikini, imagine all the shit they would stir if the KKK was portrayed in any sort of manner that wasn't the bad guys.

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>>385531595
>dafuq

>>385531615
That would honestly be an interesting chance. There's the black chick in the trailer so I can see some interesting conflict of having to accept their help in something while she doesn't want to accept it. Maybe BJ gets their help, she kills one of the KKK, now they have to run while killing them.
But it's not going to happen. I'd congratulate them for trying, but there's no way.

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>>385530919
> <3 ^__^

>>385531994
Or alternate endings. Accept KKK's help, refuse KKK's help.

>>385522876
Fuck you guys now i must buy them all because of you

>>385530395
>>385530426
its assumed that max hass was liberated by klaus from the super soldier project. they took "subhuman" youths from mental institutions and modified their physique with bioengineering, so their bodies would be able to accept the cybernetic augmentations they later put into them. you could see the anatomical drawings of super soldiers all over the anatomical theater in the old blood. i guess klaus was max´s handler or cell guard, like with many others who came before him, and when they removed parts of hass´s brain, to replace it with that control system that makes the super soldiers mindlessly obedient, max lost his ability to speak normaly. the cruelty of wilhelm stasses experiments on humans made klaus snap, so he deserted and took max with him. it would make a neat DLC, playing as max and klaus as they escape, helping each other with their quite different abilities

>>385531081
I really don't want to be that guy but by most (american) accounts, the New Deal would be one step away from full blown bolshevism.

>>385532171
>buy
?

>>385531178

>friend's dad had to work exta to get a better position to earn more for the kid
>you can clearly see how even if he genuinely loves the kid, it took a toll on his health and spirit
>he still has a bitter relationship with his wife and my friend because how how stressful it was to adapt to this condition

I would not wish this depressing burden upon even my enemies.

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>>385532097
I wonder which chose will lead to the "good" ending

>muh leftism soooo bad XddDDXD
fucking americans and their black and white political systems

>>385530574
I mean, it's not like they'd allow a mentally deficient kid to grow up.

>>385532062
Brazilians love weeb emoticons, the <3 is just a normy thing I guess

>>385532247
The 3 Wolfenstein games

>>385532272
Actually, not alternate endings. Like New Order with Hendrix or the other woman whose name I forget. Just a scene near the end changing.

>>385526068

Wolfenstein: The Old Blood had some good stuff. This one in particular is gold. Here's hoping that Mick Gordon does music for a horror game in the future

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JW5U6prwk8

>>385532416
Tiago is Portuguese, not Brazilian.

>>385532275
remember kids, if it doesn't flash "NAZIS ARE GREAT" on the screen for a straight 6 hours, it's lefty propaganda

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>>385531460
No, I just like big scale military shit. Why you sterotyping a black dude?

>>385522876
Oh hey it's Antifa: The Game

>>385529012
BASED BLACK MAN AND A BASED WOMEN

>>385532803
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>>385524283
The guy on the right looks like a Pajeet. That said, he's using dual Lugers to fight some kind of weird robots or power suits or flying drones, so it's all cool.

>>385532712
Oh hey it's Underage: The Faggot

I'm glad we're getting more games making nazis and white extremists the bad guys so that I can laugh at the /pol/ spergouts.

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>>385533358
I'm on to you, /pol/

>>385533358
this, I wish there was a mode to make the nazis wear trump hats so I could kill today's fascists!

>>385525212
because they have an irrational attachment to a video game company. here, watch:
>RAGE wasn't a good game and was greatly hurt by its terrible engine and having to be made to run on a system with 256mb of RAM

>BJ starts reciting The New Colossus poem at the end of The New Order
>The new game gets the poems name

so when do you control a giant robotic Statue of Liberty

>>385522876
i want a blood dragon style non canon game where the losing nazi discover infernal technology.

coop adventure wit BJ and doomguy
final boss is of course cyberhitlerdemon.

>>385533660
Never actually made that connection. Cool.
>Plot twist
>The statue of liberty is now a nazi symbol and a literal colossus
>It's the final boss

>>385533557
Why though? Trump voters aren't nazis. Retards yes, but not nazis. I just wanna see the nazi fellaters get pissy.

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I am just glad they still make FPSs that even vaguely resemble what FPSs used to feel like.

What about BJ going to Japan?

I don't get why people like the DOOM4 soundtrack so much better than TNO and TOB
Like I get the style and all but the wolfenstein tracks have the distortion without going so overboard and they're not so slow that they make the game feel slow like DOOM4's tracks
and I mean come on there's this shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG_ZEovDDKk
how can you not say that's amazing

also, when do we get to go and attack hadrian's wall 2 electric boogaloo in neo-scotland

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>>385533358
This. Your clubhouse is changing White Males. Deal with it.

>>385532579
ebin

>>385534973
Found one.

Sorry to burst your bubble but the holocaust happened and nazis were bad :^)

>>385535250
ebin

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>OH MAN I CAN FINALLY KILL NAZIZ FUCK NAZIS ITS GONNA BE KICKASS AND BADASS
>FUCKING SJWS FUCKING LIBERALS
Everyone in this thread should neck themselves.

>>385535682
y u mad?

>>385522876
The monster never dies no matter how many times you kill it. It just sheds its skin and changes form. Can feel the weight of the world pushing me down. I try to carry it nonetheless. One last time. Then i can rest.

>>385535682
Thank god centrist bro, where would we be without your wisdom?

>>385535682
hating nazis is not liberal exclusive moron.

>>385535856
>wisdom

he wants to kill everyone in this thread with a microsoft fingerprint reader that didnt even work most of the times.

real wisdom is using big red buttons

>>385535682
Are you a nazi?

>>385536043
That face at the end fucking kills me every time.

>TNO / TOB writing
>Good
Fucking lol.
>Muh we wuz precursor super magic jews n sheeit
The writing is ass and it'll be ass in the next one. The gameplay is great though, hopefully they don't get too political and just focus on fun.

>>385532097
How to make the game good: Choose between the KKK and Commie groups, both turn out bad and you have to kill them. It's a basic skin swap.
How I'm afraid they'll do the game: You work with the commies and kill the nazis and KKK, game portrays the commies as good people

>>385536415
>>Muh we wuz precursor super magic jews n sheeit

>implying that wasn't hilarious

>>385536663
Commies were the good guys you fucking Nazi alt-righter

>>385536415
>Not enjoying a game actually acknowledging Jews as sneaky tricksters

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>>385532237
New Deal does not take away the means of production. It does not literally steal from the rich. It does not end capitalism. It does redistribute facilities and wealth.
It's a socialistic policy, yes, but it's not commie shit.

>>385536785
>The group that killed more of their own in the 20th century than any other group combined were good guys!
Lol
I mean maybe commies are good from the perspective of meditating hippies, if you consider fasting a form of meditation.

>This ain't war, but the breaking of seals. The undoing of life itself...

>>385536973

This. The New Deal was put forth so that we WOULDNT have commie for fascist uprisings fucking shit up like in Weimar.

Why is every socialized policy commie now? Marx wrote some damn good shit outside of his manifesto.

>>385536973
>>The group that killed more of their own in the 20th century than any other group combined were good guys!
>Lol
>I mean maybe commies are good from the perspective of meditating hippies, if you consider fasting a form of meditation.

that post must really have hit a nerve for you to take it seriously

>>385536973
Commies only killed more people because they were in power far longer than the Nazis. Hitler got 40 million kills under his belt in 13 years, if Nazi Germany had stuck around for another 60 years like the Soviet Union then the Soviets would look like fucking saints in comparison.

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>>385537337
>what if

sure kid. Meanwhile pic related.

>>385537337
>Every death during WW2 is Hitler's fault
Okay, so we should count every death during USSR wars as communism's fault too right?

>>385537852
>What if
It's not a matter of "What If," we know what the German policies regarding their occupied territories were. If they won the war and could have done what they wanted in Eastern Europe they'd have killed well over 100 million people all in the name of lebensraum. And that's just racial enemies, doesn't even include political enemies, religious enemies, homosexuals, the disabled, etc.
>>385538212
In the European theater, yes, as Hitler caused it.
>USSR wars
Do you have an idea how many wars the Soviets were involved in? Be more specific.

>>385538729
Except Polish children we're inducted into "Germanization" schools instead of being sent to camps like Jews were. Why would they do that if they wanted to kill off all the Slavs?

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>>385522876
Yeah, the voice acting really helped to sell all the lines.
But the writing was great regardless, add the 2 and its hard not to get attached to those people.

Also the game does something others dont bother, we learn BJ's dreams and hopes. He wants a family, its all he ever wanted, a wife and children but he knows its not in store for him.

Overall all Va in the game was great, and since it was a random out of nowhere FPS it was even more surprising.

i like games where you can play as the bad guy

>>385534973
>Adam "Meth Head" Sessler
Damn, the fucking junkie sure is a moral authority.
He should be glad the corrupt gaming media buddies are willing to keep him around and hes not on teh street giving blow jobs for coke.

>>385538729
>What is the non-aggression pact

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>>385539073
They did that to people they considered ethnic Germans, and it only happened to 200,000 Poles. Anyways, as far as the racial hierarchy went ethic Poles were pretty fucking low in it.

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>>385539580
>They thought they were ethnically German
>So they sent them to a school to teach them how to be German

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>>385539740
are you stupid on purpose, mate?

>>385539740
>Nations are ethnically homogeneous
You're fucking stupid
>>385539487
>I was supposed to get Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact from "USSR wars"

>>385524283
>high school athlete dlc
looks pretty cool honestly

>>385540029
>Nations are ethnically homogeneous
You're replying to the wrong post, mine was >>385539740

>>385540170
My mistake, I misunderstood your post. Let me try again.
>Ethnicity and culture are the same thing

it's not good

- contrarian

>>385527951
>>385527993
>>385528738
>>385528895
How the fuck was he a well written character in TNO? It was all half assed. Forced romance for muh sex scenes, forced feels to make the simple minded go "awww he no want to be soldier no more, he want to be daddy". It could be a good premise for both personality and character development, but it was executed very poorly in the game.

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>>385540029
yeah, I mean I would think so since the USSR literally went to war with Finland... It also marks them as being complacent to the wars that happened in Europe.

>>385532803
based women were all over ww2

>>385537264
>Why is every socialized policy commie now?
because fuck you i got mine

>>385540286
Yes, ethnicity encompasses culture. You don't know what ethnicity is. If I was ethically German, I wouldn't need to go to a fucking school to learn how to be German.

>>385540490
You're missing my point. "USSR wars" could have meant anything from the Soviet-Polish War to Afghanistan. You were being vague. Anyways, the deaths from the Winter War are completely dwarfed by what was happening in Poland, Scandinavia and Western Europe, and that doesn't even include the German invasion of the Soviet Union and the Continuation War.

>>385540829
so a black man going 3 generations back as a german national, is, in fact, ethnically german?

>>385540956
Nigga if the USSR never signed that Non-aggression pact, the war would have either

A: Never happened
B: Been stopped way before all those deaths happened

>>385524283
Lando kalrisian, sniper wolf and cpl. dwayne hicks?

>>385541010
Why do I have to spoonfeed you? Read the definition of the fucking word.

>>385540481
yeah he should've used quips!
and he dont need to talk to girls, ewww cooties >:(

>>385541135
Sounds like the kind of retarded crossover fanfiction I'd write when I was 12.
I'll take three copies.

>>385541162
but I did. not even the guy you're arguing with, but ethnicity is not 100% cultural

>>385541313
>hey I know we don't really know eachother, and I know you've been cleaning out my bed pans, changing my diapers, and looking at my soulless face for the past 15 years, and I JUST came to and helped you escape, but let's fugg xD

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>>385541424
>ethnicity is not 100% cultural

Just reread my comment man. I didn't say that.

>>385541562
okay. but an ethnic german can be born in a different country and never learn anything about being german but still be ethnic german

>>385541697
You're really going to make me do this?

>Of, relating to, or characteristic of a sizable group of people sharing a common and distinctive racial, national, religious, linguistic, or cultural heritage.

So they don't fulfill the "national/religious/linguistic/cultural" criteria, but their ethnicity is still German?

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>>385539235
soon

>>385541934
nuh uh

>Membership of an ethnic group tends to be defined by a shared cultural heritage, ancestry, origin myth, history, homeland, language or dialect, symbolic systems such as religion, mythology and ritual, cuisine, dressing style, art, and physical appearance.
>ancestry
>physical appearance

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>>385541982

>>385542098
so yuro countries/japan have hit an inbreeding depression? but why the need to replace them?

>>385532578
>Tiago is Portuguese, not Brazilian.
Literally no difference

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Great Nazi-killing thread, you dorks.

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>>385542073
yeah I'm being trolled

>>385542405
but you deserve it for not knowing 4chan uses ethnicity exclusively as a racial identifier >_<

>>385541071
Then Hitler would have turned his eyes south toward the Balkans or west towards France and conquered Poland later in order to reach the Soviets. War was inevitable, Hitler just made the mistake of letting the Soviets get stronger before he attacked them.
>>385540829
Ethnicity includes physical appearance and shared ancestry which was what the Nazis cared about most.
>I wouldn't need to go to a fucking school to learn how to be German.
If you were, by Nazi definition, an ethnically German Pole, you sure as shit would have.

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>>385542276
Just think of it as upgrading to newer and better models

I'm in your house General. Is this the day?

>>385532275
Fuck off, faggot. European politics are even worse. You can barely forma stable government for more than two months.

>>385524283
>Season Pass

Can't believe people go for this shit..

>>385533358
>Please notice me, /pol/ senpai.

>>385525212
Bethesda employees continually make threads on /v/ to promote Beth's products.

>>385541527
Didn't you listen to Anyas audio tapes?

>>385522876
He's less Nathan drake and more max payne.

>>385525212

I don't get it either.

>>385542552
Sure, and by the time Hitler conquered France, the Soviets would have been at their doorstep. Stalin literally signed a piece of paper with Hitler that said "go ahead and conquer Europe" and only fought back when he was personally threatened. They were complacent in the wars in Europe no matter how you look at it.

>>385542647

Ah yes, the unstable European government. American education at work, folks.

>>385542971
>the Soviets would have been at their doorstep
How? The Red Army was a fucking joke before 1942, they could barely beat Finland. The Poles would have pulled a repeat of 1920 and given the Germans more than enough time to knock out France and mobilize their army to the East.

>>385543296
The Soviets could have easily allied with the Poles, dummy. Everyone and their mother would be declaring war with Germany if they invaded France.

>>385542992
You can barely hold yourselves together because a bunch of fags from Brussels keep telling you what to do and forcing boat people on you.

>>385543296
>The Red Army was a fucking joke before 1942, they could barely beat Finland
The Red Army was undergoing a rapid modernization after the Winter War though, the new weapons and tanks were being developed and manufactured very rapidly. Stalin denied the possibility of Hitler breaking the truce though, so a lot of that stuff was captured by German military. They even adopted PPSh as one of their SMGs because they captured so much of those.

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>>385543564
>boat people
Um, RACIST AND SEXIST MUCH???

>>385543296
Literally half the soviet army was waiting for an attack from Japan
When Russian spies learned about the plans for pearl harbor they knew that they didn't have to watch their backs anymore because the Americans would be busy with them in the pacific
The day Germans arrived in Moscow so did the rest of the Russian army. From then on Germany was losing the war

>>385543564

Yeah dude, countries are toppling daily. There have been 200 new governments this month. I'm not even sure what my country's called today.

Save us mr redpill

>>385543749
Fuck you, boat boy.

>>385526457
Sounds pretty shitty, desu senpai. I'd rather be playing a bad ass whose organs are shutting down and gets weaker as the game goes on but still kicks ass.

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>>385543749
>thefutureofeurope
>implying

>>385536973
>>385537264
>Literal Marxist apologists

The New Deal prolonged the great depression.

https://fee.org/articles/fdrs-folly-how-roosevelt-and-his-new-deal-prolonged-the-great-depression/

>Marx wrote some damn good shit outside of his manifesto.

Marx was an idealistic middle-class faggot (like all leftists) who had no idea how economics worked.

>>385523914

He's seen too much shit.

>>385543854
>I can't see the rapid decline of Europe because it hasn't affected me personally yet

>>385544210

But you can see everything, right? You're a joke.

>>385543537
Stalin never would have accepted it. Far too capitalist, far too pro-western, and they had land the Soviets wanted.
>>385543616
Yes but the modernization didn't really mean anything till they put it to use at Moscow with all those fresh troops from the East. And in our fun little timeline where the Pact was never signed then there wouldn't have been any reason to modernize because the Soviets are just going to push into Poland as soon as Germany attacks France. That year of peace before Barbarossa never would have happened.

>>385544328
It doesn't take much to notice broad negative demographic and economic trends.

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>>385528582

>mfw the VA is fucking Murdoch from the A-Team

>>385544609

Can you show me all this data?

>>385524283
>black dude wearing a letterman jacket

Love this style.

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>>385544609
I wouldn't even bother. As an American living in Europe, talking politics with yuros is pretty much impossible. They just don't give a fuck. Any sort of negative opinion towards refugees they just go on a full defensive, making up every excuse in the book. Then they get autistically angry and say shit like "what would an American know about Europe"! Like we're the fucking bad guys rather than the people raping and pillaging them.

Oh well, enjoy living in a Germany that's only half German when your 80. Better hope you saved up enough to live in a gated community, or your life is going to suck dick.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/11414064/How-Europe-is-slowly-dying-despite-an-increasing-world-population.html
https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/europes-shrinking-aging-population

>>385544862
>>385545169

>>385544862
Lol checkmate alt right! A lot of European countries don't even collect relevant data because muh racism!

>>385545114
Europeans should realize that they're gonna go the way of the White South African one day.
All the European Jews are fleeing to israel (google Jews fleeing france to israel) and more africans and muslims keep invading Europe.
Pretty soon, whites are going to be regularly murdered in masse while the world ignores it.

>>385532230
I would buy a season pass if it had that in it.

>>385536785
The Gulag Archipelago should be required reading in schools. If it was I would be able to tell if you were just baiting or not.

>>385542894
Evidently not.

The graphics of the game seem gorgeous, especially the particles

>>385545307

But he said it doesn't take much to see. That means the data's clearly there right?

>>385545205
>>385545169

You realise this supports bringing in immigrants to boost the economy right?

>>385545581
>bringing in immigrants to boost the economy
Kill yourself you neoliberal globalist piece of shit.

>>385545581
its not really boosting the economy because they arent working and are using more money than we get
we just look good politically doing it apparently

>>385545581
>You realise this supports bringing in immigrants to boost the economy right?

Or maybe it supports White Europeans having more children? Why do Lefties think White people are the cause of every problem and Brown people are the solution to every problem?

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>>385545709

>>385522876
>making one of the most stoic and well recieved characters into a little whiny bitch with overused "ww2angst"
one of the most boring character-designs possible to be honest

>>385526820
>Believing Nazi newspapers

>>385545114
Americans know what it's like to live with non-Whites. I grew up in a place which was only 60% White. It was a fucking mess. But of course it will never get better because most voters are either non-White or White liberal.

I think the Yuros are starting to figure out what it means to live with a lot of non-whites, and that's why the far right has been gaining more and more traction over the last few years.

>>385545819

Sure that can work too and I'm sure countries will/have take/taken steps to encourage it. But considering the trends, that doesn't look like it's happening; whereas there's plenty of willing cheap labour in the form of immigrants.

>>385530607
I honestly liked Tesla's scene better

>>385546136
>cheap labour
>cheap

How funny. When it comes to Brown people, it's all about the money. Who cares about the changes to culture, rising crime rates, changed demographics... We have to do what's best for the economy! But literally anything other issue and its "fuck capitalism"!

You are looking for every opportunity to destroy your heritage to spite some Nazi bogeyman. It is truly tragic. You'll find out when you're older I guess.

Will they ever bring back RtCW/Enemy Territory style multiplayer?

How did he survive the nuke?

>>385538729
>lebensraum

I've never actually heard that term before today. Is it like America's Manifest Destiny?

>>385546621
secret jewish anti-nuke tech

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>>385546812
>>lebensraum
>I've never actually heard that term before today. Is it like America's Manifest Destiny?

>>385546538

Turns out when the economy is good, luxury goods become more affordable. I like being able to buy things. The articles that one of your shitters linked me spoke of a dying economy caused by low birthrates, so yeah, that's why it's "all about the money" you actual moron.

I guess I can't really expect you to follow a conversation without bursting into your shitty rhetoric.

>>385546621
They picked him up before the nuke landed. It's why you hear helicopter rotors during the credits.

>>385546812
Kind of, yeah, they're related: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifest_destiny#Relationship_with_German_Lebensraum_ideology

>>385547053
Oh shit, you are right. I shouldn't have skipped the credits.

>>385546994
Yeah man, same thing with environmental laws. Protecting my country from becoming an industrial wasteland is cool and all, but all that governemnt regulation is destroying our free market. I just want to buy things you know? Who gives a fuck if it ruins my country?

You see how I insert "Brown people" into a topic, and you cucks run in to form a fucking defense force?