ITT: vidya devs mocking their own target audience

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Is it possible to have a discussion about DmC without asking yourself "what were they thinking"?

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>>385510745

>>385511492

CUHRAZY gay cowboys in the mountains, battling demons and herding animals.

I didn't know I wanted this

>>385511893
;_;

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NEVER
V
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>>385511893
oww

Warframe's redtext (admin global messages) have indirectly called all of it's players worthless virgins before

>>385512356
it was probably the community manager girl

>>385511893
just fucking delete this you bitch

>>385512291
Thank god that game was awful and there will never be a sequel

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>>385512463
noclipping through the wall reveals another message

>>385510745
Maybe you're too underage to know that, but it's a joke directed a The Getaway, not the players.

>>385511893
The real mocking was the game itself.

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>>385512463
>>385512506
>>385512536

>>385511893
top savage kek

>>385512395

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk_1puMzJXk

>>385512463
>>385512536
Wut game?

>>385512603
fuck off weeb

>>385512752
Redneck rampage

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>>385511893
Whoa. That's low man. Real low...
but true

>>385511893
Sometimes, even when it's true, it really does matter who says it.
Thanks Daikatana.

>>385512506
https://fineleatherjackets.net/monkeyinflation

Remember to adjust for inflation.

>>385513187
no because my pay hasn't adjusted for inflation. Maybe if my pay adjusted the way corporations profits adjusted then yes I would adjust.

>>385511893
He was so absurdly confident when he made this game. Shame it was fucking terrible.

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>>385513328
This is a prime issue with caring about inflation. Companies always want to inflate their prices but don't want to pass that on and then wonder why mobile gamers refuse to pay high prices and why everyone wants shit on the cheap. It's simple, the average person's pay hasn't adjusted appropriately and now it's come back to bite corporations in the ass.

>>385513451
well all that's not going to matter since neoliberals keep flooding the west with immigrants who will work for less than half of your pay. Thanks, leftists.

>>385513451
>and now it's come back to bite corporations in the ass.
>implying
You still need food and shit to live. Whatever happens they win and you lose. Deal with it because it's not going to change, ever.

>>385513928
>he hasn't ascended yet
lmaoing at this unenlightened eater

>>385512692
hahahahahhaha
I fucking knew it

A talentless bitch working on a game only as a voice/mascot who has thin skin and emotional issues, not a surprise

the never ending reddit humor in gta5 made me want to kms

>>385512692
haha dumb bitch

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>>385511893

>>385510745
Could be a subtle animaniacs reference.

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>>385511893
Jesus Christ game, you don't have to hammer it in...

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>>385510745

chrono trigger 100% ending

>>385514448
speaking of GTA V, there's the heist where you have to return 20 million dollars to its rightful owner directly after stealing it.

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Kinda

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Plenty of games do this, but honestly, most of them are pretty damn cringeworthy at it.

I think the best cases of game taking the piss out of it's players were in Icepick Lodge games, because it's not a sad "us gamers, wink wink" style 4th wall breaking: it's actually kinda meaningful and goes beyond bringing up stereotypes.

Like in Pathologic, where if you save enough people to win the game, but NOT your adherents, one of the actors will go on mocking you for how he warned you about forgetting the number one rule of acting: "Never forget that you are, ultimately, always just an actor. Never mistake an act for reality."

This is a very clever and semi-tragic way of the game mocking you for getting too much invested in it and literally prioritizing your role-playing over the actual WIN CONDITIONS of the game. It's not lazy, it's not obvious, it's not mean, it's not based on crappy stereotypes about how all gamers are losers - it's actually clever piece of anticipation of the player actions and facing him with reality.

postal dude makes fun of you if you quick save frequently
>even my grandma can beat this game without saving this much

>>385512157
shepards

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Remember when The Know suggested that they could add female soldiers into battlefield 1 and everyone lost their shit about it not being accurate.

Now they're adding them in historically accurately in the new DLC.

>>385511893
Jesus

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>>385513928
>people just decide to die instead of buying food anymore
>WAHHH MILLENIALS ARE KILLING THE TRADITIONAL GROCERY STORE

>>385510745
Spec Ops The Line is basically just a massive "Fuck you" to anyone that played it.

>>385516375
>it's not mean!

>role-players just trying to have fun
>writer interjects with an npc to remind them that it's all just a game
>and they shouldn't be trying to have fun that way...
>because role-playing is just acting
>and as actors you have responsibility not to get into your role so much that you play to it at the expense of the writer's favorite characters???

Seems more like a pissy GM than a clever writer.

>>385517047
It was such a shitty fucking thing.

>>385517047
People think spec ops is good but it's not.

>>385511893
Is there any USA law that stops devs from doing stuff lke this more often?

>>385516870
there isnt a war that women participated in as soldiers

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>>385510745
>Cry like an anime fan on prom night

>>385511492
The worst part is that they thought their new version was less gay than classic dante(which is basically a chad)

>>385517447
fuck i meant wasnt

>>385517047

Not really. But it did inadvertently reveal that, for all their talk of "the bantz", people who play video games have very thin skin.

>>385517182
>role-players just trying to have fun
You... you clearly never played Pathologic, have you?
You are not trying to have fun in Pathologic. Ever.

As for writers interjecting to remind the player that it's just a game, it's literally what the game starts with. And vital to the narrative, in more ways than just one. Metanarrativity is pretty integral to the game.

>at the expense of the writer's favorite characters?
It's more like the game explicitly telling you right at the start that if you do this, you'll probably have to face the consequences, which in this case is mainly a catastrophically bad ending for everyone involved, including those you wanted to protect in the first place...
You also get to experience everything - this is all about a choice that you make at the VERY end of the game. There is not anything much else left for you to experience: you make a final choice (well, multiple), and then the game talks you through what it meant.

And I don't see how any of this is mean.

>>385517047
>Spec Ops The Line is basically just a massive "Fuck you" to anyone that played it.
That is precisely what it isn't. People are morons and THINK that is what it is about, because the game VASTLY overestimated the actual intelligence of average player, and that is why so many people ended up being angry at it.

>>385517047
Yes, but it was oh so deep!
Remember the piss poor gunplay?
Remember the shitty endlessly spawning enemies?
Remember that time you had to use white phosphorus for no reason other than to progress the game?
Remember the zombie goasts in the mall?
Remember the hallucination sequences that if you fail you have to start over from the beginning of the level?
Remember that mind-blowing ending?! WHOAAAA choices and what a tweest!

>>385511893

*uninstalling and refunding*

>>385517263
Could've been excelllent, if you'd actually had other choices besides killing everyone. The way it is it's just really cheap. Oh well.

>>385517652
I can't stand people defending the game's message despite how shitty the actual game was.

>>385517648
>dev says you did have a choice at every point in the game
>"you could have chosen not to play"

SO DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP

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>>385517781
t. Brainlet

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>>385510745
Did anyone notice this? Or am I being paranoid

>>385517781

lol

>>385517915
>devs create content
>don't expect players to see that content
The only brainlets are the devs
It's basically a flash-game showing a button: Kill everyone and you get to choose wether you do it or not.

>>385517781
>>"you could have chosen not to play"

That was a joke, you idiot. He was being sarcastic.

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>>385512539
>>385515773
>>385510745
Are you all fucking retarded?

>>385517469
Those pizzas must be liquefied by now.

>>385517915
>animeposter making accusations of brainletry
Pot, meet kettle.

>>385518115
What was the actual message then?

>>385517152
>/v/ - The Vidya
I miss those days.

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>>385518115

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>>385517781
>"you could have chosen not to play"
>I chose not to buy the game

>>385518116
>not knowing about an American company is retarded
>yankee turds think their country is entire world
Fucking retard

>>385517968
have you never seen a map on a sign in real life?

>>385518280
Steam refunds weren't a thing at the time, so it was a particularly bitter thing for the dev to say to those who actually did buy it.

>>385511893
This just adds insult to the injury of buyer's remorse.

>>385518280
That was my choice as well. Becuase going by the devs logic, this is even better - the war didn't even start this way.

>>385518291
I'm Russian and you're dumber than me, let that sink in.

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>>385518291
>game's entire setting is based off of a specific City
>go full DPS and cry "how was I supposed to know" when you don't recognize a iconic building
Did you think the Statue of Happiness was some random landmark as well?

>>385517781
>dev says you did have a choice at every point in the game
Actually, a character in the game says that to another character in the game. And that is the set of key differences you are too dumb to understand. Everything else is product of your interpetation of the game: the fact that you CHOSE to interpret Konrad's words as applying exclusively to you, and THEN YOU GOT MAD AT THE GAME just illustrates that aside from being dumb as a kettle, you are also pathologically insecure.

>>385518208
Not him, but the message was that the glorification of war as displayed in the genre of modern realistic shooters is actually fucked up and has a tendency to display pretty fucked up stories as heroic, and it asks the player if he is actually aware and OK with that.

It has underlying themes of propensity to evil, the old Heart of Darkness (and much older) message that everyone is capable of doing terrible things, no matter how noble they think themselves to be, and that it's very easy to fall into the delusion that you are doing the right thing even when you are already committing attrocities. That is the core of Walker's tale.

As for the player and the meta-narrative, rather than flat out scolding the player, the game is simply asking him to ponder about how much analogy between himself and Walker can he draw. It gives you full freedom to actually interpret the outcome, and even reflect his own feelings on the subject matter through the final series of choices.

>>385517469
>implying anime isn't fast approaching normie tier

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>>385518291
>>385518431

>>385518208

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

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>>385518345
Here, let me give you some indications

>>385518291
>not knowing one of the largest corporations in the world

You don't have to know the exact building, but it's pretty pathetic that it doesn't even ring a bell.

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>>385518543

>>385518621
Maybe that helped him, but I'm still not seeing what you're going for. Sorry. :(

>>385518116
Are you saying just because it is a parody on an existing name it can't have its own meaning?

>>385517968
>Badass
Randy pitchford marketing 101

>>385511893
BTFO

>>385518675
What does that have to do with what I posted?

>>385511893
Wow, who does this game think it is, my dad?

>>385518518
>happy to pay retail for a shitty art project that doesn't even play like a decent game
>because too young to already know how the story goes

It was a game made for adults with a story leveled at children. You're clearly the writer's intended audience, but the rest of us already had enough of it and just wanted a decent fucking game.

>>385518518
>Not him, but the message was that the glorification of war as displayed in the genre of modern realistic shooters is actually fucked up and has a tendency to display pretty fucked up stories as heroic, and it asks the player if he is actually aware and OK with that.

And you actually think people aren't aware of that when playing a shooter? It's a video game, not real life.

>>385518621
oh, i see it now.
might be a bit too far-fetched, but nice find either way

>>385518345
>>385518743
>>385518709
I'm gonna explain it:
Okay, here is my thinking process :
>First you see a sign : "You are here"
>Next to the sign there is a character
>You can then make a link: "You are here" means (You) in real life are here: so, you are the character shown on screen
>Then, the character shown on screen (that is, supposedly, you) is said to be a virgin
>Therefore, you are a virgin
>The devs are mocking their playerbase

What do you guys think?

>>385518518
dont waste your time on him. wont work, never does. Only speak about the game to people who want to listen because nothing will change an autistic retard's mind about anything.

>>385518743
>not knowing Badass is a enemy modifier

>>385518901
Dunno, i just turn my brain off and go kill nazis/russians/achmeds/ayys/whatever

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>>385518431
>>385518640
>>385518489
>iconic building that's never shown in the movies because it would be advertising
No y'all stupid idiots

>>385518280
>original Black & White advertising promotes the whole "good vs evil" system
>including "buy it" vs "steal it"
>choose to shoplift it

>>385518960
Christ, anon, just stop. We all understood exactly how your thought process went. You're just fucking retarded and paranoid.
If anything in the series was mocking the players, it was the massive dip in quality from BL1 to BL2.

>>385516280
I fucking loved those comic-style cutscenes, really made the storyline look awesome

>>385518960
and why call "me" a badass nigger?

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>>385519080
Okay

>>385518960
You're giving the devs too much credit.
This is Gearbox we're talking about.

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>>385519013
no, I'm more concerned with Randy's constant use of the word "Badass"

>>385519050
>steal, via pirating, every video game I ever played
>always play the morally upstanding good guy in decision-based RPGs

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>>385518796
Normalfags don't watch anime at all, they just parrot the memes on social media about the shittiest flavour of the season bullshit:
>Le dragon maid
>Le JOJOKE
>Le pic related

>>385518960
>The mind of the /pol/babby

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Surprised this hasn't been posted yet.

>>385519197
Its actually the Telltale guys

>>385519272
>play game like BW which judges your actions
>always end up evil
>try to play "good"... end up evil

>play RPG like ME where you can just pick nice answers (because I don't really want to sound like a douche)... always end up neutral or good.
My eyes say no, but my body says yes

>>385519426
Oh in that case, WAY too much credit.

>>385518854
>>385518901
And once again you only obsess about turning this into another self-masturbating session.
"I'm too good for this game! I'm too adult and mature for this game!"
The irony that this comes from the same people too dumb to realize that player does not have to identify himself with Walker and whined about how the game is guilt-tripping.

And this is really the problem. You don't care about the game: you exclusively care about your ego. EVERY SINGLE WORD you uttered is just a way to validate yourself and boast how unquestionable you are and how the game is shit for even implying that you might not be the greatest blessing that has ever graced the earth.

Fun fact: I had picked up on what the game is doing even quite before the White Phosphorus scene.
I enjoyed it non-the less. Mechanically it's dull but functional, and the actual story, writing and art direction are great - with actual meaningful message, actual character ark, good atmosphere. Yeah, the shooting was boring but from time to time, I like to get a break from more mechanically complex games to play a simple, short cinematic distraction. And as far as those go, SpecOps is pretty solid.

Meanwhile, you people clearly missed an absolutely key component of the story, and when somebody points it out you literally start screaming how adult and above it you are. Even if you weren't lying (and you are) - most people actually did not pick up on it. Even if you really were so damn smart, you'd also be aware that you are still among an outlier group, and that majority of players of this game did not actually expect the game to do what it did until it was too late, neither had they ever put much thought about the actual dishonesties and problems with narratives in games like CoD.
Most CoD people enjoy CoD Campaigns unironically and without realizing their fucked-up undertones. And that alone makes a game's point valid.

Even if such geniuses like you and me are already aware of this.

>>385519019
Yeah lmao they never show commercial buildings in media. Oh wait! All those buildings are commercial!

>>385519478
Black and White was almost impossible to be good. If anything gets destroyed or killed, it's your fault even if the other gods do it.

>>385519592
>another self-masturbating session
Oh the irony

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>>385519592
>he can't let it go

>>385511893
Guess he did make me his bitch after all

Man, you are all sensitive little bitches

This is what you get for 100%ing the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuYUoLM8BNA

>>385519305
Maybe it's because I don't use social media other than Twitter anymore, but I've never seen her outside of this website. Definitely seen THICC LOLI and Jojo shit though.

>>385517373
No law, only corporate culture.

Suits are cancer.

>>385519592
If it's not the point to identify with Walker, the entire thing becomes even more pointless. At that point, it's really just a shitty war movie you watch from the outside. With piss-poor gameplay, but that's besides the point.

>>385515862
You can complete Runescape?

>>385519592
>Fun fact: I had picked up on what the game is doing even quite before the White Phosphorus scene.
So what was the game doing then if not putting you in Walkers shoes? You went on and on about what it doesn't do, yet what does it do?

>>385511893
So that's how he was going to make everyone his bitch.

>>385517562
Seems like pretentious 2deep4u shit.
>hahaha trying to be good is actually the wrong answer! What a clever deconstruction this all was we had you so fooled.

>>385519997
It ain't called the completionist cape for nothing.
IIRC, it's the reward for maxing out every skill and finishing every quest. Any time a new quest (and presumably skill?) comes out, the cape can't be worn until that quest has been done/skill has been maxed.

>>385520116
>IIRC, it's the reward for maxing out every skill and finishing every quest. Any time a new quest (and presumably skill?) comes out, the cape can't be worn until that quest has been done/skill has been maxed.
Jagex is kind of shit but they do still do cool stuff every now and then

>>385519592
>the game is guilt-tripping.
It is, even if you don't-self insert as Walker

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>>385519592

>>385519363
Remember when Kotaku among other places made countless articles bitching about easy difficulty either mocking the player or withholding content?

>>385519592
Stop acting like you're some enlightened genius because you picked up on a concept that has been handled infinitely better in every other medium. This is some serious Dunning-Kruger shit. Read a fucking book.

>>385520352
I was already triggered enough from that, but seeing a bunch of vidya journos compare the crash bandicoot trilogy to dark souls (as though DS is a high bar of difficulty) got my fucking goat.

>>385511893
what the hell

>>385520128
I am about 2.5 years away from getting the 5-year achievement

>>385520434
>Dunning-Kruger
Way too close to home. Fuck. Didn't know this was a thing till now and it's in full effect.

>>385519951
>If it's not the point to identify with Walker, the entire thing becomes even more pointless.
Not really. It's still a decent story about descent into madness motivated by desire to be good, and delusion of your own propensity to evil. That is Walker's story, and it's not a bad one. In fact it's incredibly important and valuable, which is why so many great authors keep reminding us of it, from Konrad to Solzenitsyn.

>At that point, it's really just a shitty war movie you watch from the outside.
The art direction, soundtrack, environmental design, as well as writing are between good and great. Some of the best you'll find in gaming industry. Yeah, the gameplay is crap, but that kinda comes with the genre.

>>385520024
>You went on and on about what it doesn't do, yet what does it do?
I actually already explained what it talks about. See above, and also majority of this post: >>385518518

>>385520081
>Seems like pretentious 2deep4u shit.
Those are just your words for "it's intimidating me and thus making me vaguely annoyed.
Also:
>hahaha trying to be good is actually the wrong answer!
Are you actually, genuinely 12? Have you never heard the expression "road to hell is paved with good intentions"? Is the idea that good and bad are complex notions actually "pretentious 2deep4 me" idea? If yes: you literally might be too dumb for this world.

>>385520213
>It is, even if you don't-self insert as Walker
Not really. At absolute worst the loading messages, by virtue of being non-diegetic, are pushing it a little, but they are also non-intergral and everything else is carefully designed to make the line between addressing the points towards Walker and the points towards player as ambiguous as possible. Hell, even the loading screen messages.

>>385520434
>Read a fucking book.
Oh the irony: retards with clearly no actual understanding of basic narrative schemes telling others to read a book...

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>>385510745

>>385519258
Why would you want a bad ass? Wouldn't it be better to have a functional ass? Is it all the burgers they eat? Do they not get enough fiber?

>>385520434
>This is some serious Dunning-Kruger shit. Read a fucking book.
Do you actually realize that you are screaming at me how much smarter than I am you are because you figured out something that I figured out while simultaneously accusing me of Donning-Kruger syndrome?
Do you not realize how that might be a problem?

Also, I addressed specific complaints about the game that were false, and based on people not figuring something vital out. So how is it "Donning-Kruger effect"? I was right and they were wrong about their assesment of the game. End of discussion, really.

>>385520630
Put on a fucking trip so I can filter you already, fuck.

>>385520630
So that's it? A poor man's Heart of Darkness? I'm underwhelmed, but glad we talked about this. If your assessment is true though, 90% of game journalists are utter fucking morons.

>>385520821
>Donning
Phoneposters are cancer

>>385520868
>So that's it? A poor man's Heart of Darkness?

No, it's not.

Why the fuck do people keep saying this? Heart of Darkness is not about a man with a hero complex that leads him to do monstrous things while denying responsibility for them. It's alludes to Heart of Darkness but that's it, the substance is very different.

>>385521216
Looking at it from your perspective, it invokes the same feeling I got from watching (yes watching, go figure) Heart of Darkness. Of course it's no copy, but it's in the same ballpark.

>>385520841
I see a really hit a nerve here.

>>385520868
>So that's it? A poor man's Heart of Darkness?
Based on your logic you can literally call Apocalypse Now a poor man's Heart of Darkness too. Just because the story has been told already does not make it bad. It was not really ever told this way, and it's additional commentary on the genre of modern-military shooters, which were insanely and unironically popular furthers the relevance of this particular retelling of this story.

Really, it's quite fantastic how desperate you are devaluate the game. I think it really actually illustrates how much of a nerve it struck.

It's an interesting little game, and quite clever. It has issues: the gameplay is unquestionably dull, and it actually does have some serious issues with the plot that we had not touched on (the whole "walker is dead substory is frankly just NEEDLESS and a waste of time, the game is not playing entirely fair with the player by introducing that Fight-Club revelation at the end etc...)

But it's still a neat little experiment. Few games did anything similar (MGS series kinda, but they DROWN it in silliness and post-modern bullshit), it does a good job with the presentation, and it does not overstay it's welcome. For an AAA game it's really quite bold too.

So what exactly is making you people so fucking mad? We basically established that it's a variation on Heart of Darkness, and you fucking tried to present that as something bad for fuck sake. Why?

>>385521216
To be honest, it DOES SHARE A CORE THEME: the (unknowing) capacity towards evil.

>>385520630
>Oh the irony: retards with clearly no actual understanding of basic narrative schemes telling others to read a book...
I haven't even been a part of this debate, I understand Spec Ops' point just fine because it's hardly a challenging one to grasp.

The real irony is that you used that colon in your sentence with the intention of looking educated, but you clearly have no idea what a colon's actual function is.

>>385520821
It has nothing to do with what either of us figured out, its this pompous attitude with which you're posting all these replies. You're responding to single lines of text with paragraphs talking about how everyone is apparently too stupid to understand Spec Ops' theme, and how it was so easy for you, the little brain boy, to get it.
>Fun fact: I had picked up on what the game is doing even quite before the White Phosphorus scene.
You have zero sense of self-awareness. Fun fact: there's really not as much depth to Spec Ops as you think there is, and you're not any smarter than any of the people you're arguing with.

>>385513835
It also doesn't help that even without immigrants the work force has more then doubled due to feminism, ontop of that women are not good wage negotiators, thus wages have been kept down.

And neo-liberals think that minimum wage will fix the issue, it doesn't, minimum-wage merely raises the pay floor, which raises prices on everything, if you're making $20 an hour, instead of $5, then a bottle of coke isn't going to cost $1, its going to cost $4

And because of first and second wave femenism, the expectation for the average family's income has essentially doubled, when it was only expected for the men in the family to work, and there was a primary bread winner in the house, prices revolved around a family being sustained by one person, now because women are expected to work just as much as men are, prices have been adjusted that you have 2 sources of stable income per family, instead of one.

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>>385512692

>>385521330

Heart of Darkness was a commentary on colonialism. Spec Ops is not. In fact, it largely avoids that subject completely.

People keep name dropping this book as if we are all supposed be impressed you have heard of it but you are all just embarrassing yourselves trying to draw anything but superficial similarities between that book and this game.

>>385511893
That menu scared the hell out of me as a kid. It also made horrific noises too.

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>>385521525
>when your community manager has better ideas than the people who actually make the game

>>385521385
>To be honest, it DOES SHARE A CORE THEME: the (unknowing) capacity towards evil.

Thank you, that was all I was saying. I'm not mad, do I sound mad? In that case sorry, I just thought there was more to this game then I thought at first glance and it wasn't. End of story.

>>385516870
there were only 2 squads of female snipers and from what i remember first never fought and 2nd one was captured shortly after deployment.

So image of hundreds if not more female russian snipers replacing all male russian snipers is just dumb as fuck, actually it's insulting to russian male snipers who fought and actually killed people.

>>385517047
>intentionally make the game to ironically mock mindless war games
>nobody buys your shit cuz they're tired of mindless war games

Serves him right

>>385521421
>clearly have no idea what a colon's actual function is
Same function as his throat at this point. Pushes shit out a sphincter.

>>385511893
BITCH'D

>>385521794
Prove you'ryou're not replying to yourself and I might post a reaction picture to compliment you on your burn.

>>385511643
It's more like self aware thing than mockery.

Like characters in anime comment how a thing is like anime.

>>385519019
I'm from kangaroo land and I got the fucking joke the first time they showed the building in the trailer

>>385519258
non english native speaker here, why is badass a word for corageous/strong? it sounds like you just an ass and you are bad.

>>385519592
>another self-masturbating session.

The ironing.

Spec-Ops didn't do anything original or noteworthy. The only reason people on here laud it so much is because it's a videogame, that's it. If you put the plot into a movie it'd be a straight-to-DVD affair because the "horrors of war" trope has been done to death.

>>385519363
What was the game where hard mode was labeled "harder than fisting a velociraptor"?

>>385511893
FUCKING GOT 'EM
good lord

>>385521421
>The real irony is that you used that colon in your sentence
What? What colon, why the fuck are you talking about, and how does colon make anyone smart? Are you really sure you are not just literally going crazy in you desperate need to make me look bad here? Are you so damn insecure that you interpret the use of colons as people trying to question your comparative intellectual capacity? What the fuck is even going on here?

>its this pompous attitude with which you're posting all these replies.
And again, it's nothing but screaming "stop making yourself look smart, that makes me feel like I'm dumb in comparison and I hate that, so you are wrong and evil and STOP IT!"

No, go fuck yourself you insecure pile of shit. And yes: that sentence should actually make you feel bad.

>You have zero sense of self-awareness.
It's a direct correction to people specifically claiming that I did not figure out what the game is about until late in, you mongolid. It's completely relevant to what people said about me: I'm correcting their factually wrong assumptions.

>Fun fact: there's really not as much depth to Spec Ops as you think there is
There is EXACTLY as much depth as I said. No more, no less. And I've provided arguments for it. If you ACTUALLY HAVE ACTUAL FUCKING ARGUMENTS, then fucking present them.
You screaming how you hate how I'm not appearing as a moron is pathetic. Fuck off. Grow up. Do something about yourself: you are mentally ill. You can't cope with the idea that somebody understood something and isn't fucking sucking your dick and validating you in the process.

Disagree with me? MAKE ARGUMENTS. MAKE POINTS. Don't scream how you can't handle the "pompus attitude" - first of all my fucking tone does not actually change anything or matter at all - My arguments do - second of all the reason why it seems pompous in the first is might be precisely because you are insecure, and you interpret everything exactly in the way validates your paranoia.

>>385513187

Fuck inflation. I never pay more than $10 for a computer game, I very rarely pay more than $5, and I usually pay less than $2.

I don't know why anyone would pay $20 or $30 (let alone $60) for a PC game when you can just wait a couple of years (working on your fucking INFINITE backlog in the meantime) and get the game from a Humble bundle or a Steam sale for $5 or less.

Hell, I hesitate to buy anything at any price anymore, because I've gotten so many games for free without piracy.

>almost buy Portal
>wait and get it for free from a Steam giveaway to advertise the sequel

>almost buy Amnesia: The Dark Descent
> wait and get it for free from a Steam giveaway to advertise the sequel

>almost buy Assassin's Creed III
>wait and get it for free from a Uplay giveaway because Ubisoft desperately wants people to sign up for Uplay

>>385522079

It's ass as in donkey, not ass as in butt. They were a labor animal. A "bad ass" was an unruly one that was undomesticatable. Assholes were referred to as "bad asses". Morons who take pride in being assholes and pissing off society wore the moniker as a badge of honor. Over time it corrupted further and further into being borderline meaningless today.

>>385522137
>Spec-Ops didn't do anything original or noteworthy.
Actually, it did plenty of things that are noteworthy, and original for the medium. The only reason why you people refuse to acknowledge that is because you are a pathetic piles of shit, and other people praising something - something that does not validate you - makes you literally shit your pants with anger and anxiety.

That is all. SpecOps is interesting. Not the greatest thing ever, littered with flaws and issues, but also pretty fucking bold, doing things unusual for the medium, drawing inspiration from great works that gaming industry rarely acknowledges or reflects, taking risks that AAA titles rarely do.

You have no arguments, actually. Not a single counterargument has been raised besides "well you are just dumb, those things are "obvious", we are so much above this" have been made.

>>385516429
Thats a pretty lame example from a game where your main character is literally employed with the company that made the game and gets fired by the lead developer.

>>385511492
Is that really how they communicated that?
>dude Dante is gay look at him next to these fags
It just doesn't really take.

>>385516963
Corporations that suffer the "millenials are killing it" have probably been making bad decisions since before millenials were born (e.g. traditional department stores).

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8JOoPuPcKk

>each time you die you hear one of these

>>385511893
fuck you that's uncalled for

>>385523104
IIRC didn't they disable it because people got butthurt or something?
Or did they just make it a toggleable thing that was disabled by default

>>385523621
Toggle. It's on by default. They were going to outright remove it because a handful of people got their fee-fees hurt, the fucking faggots.

>>385523812
I would understand if there weren't enough of them, because that would get grating. But with over 100 of them I feel you wouldn't get repeats very often unless you fuckin suck.

>>385522814
Yes. Ninja Theory is that tasteless.

They also compared Dante to the old Batman & Robin while Donte was compared to that edgy kid from Chronicle

>>385523089
Yeah, there's no merit to the idea that a generation leeching off parents and the state and won't work in unprecedented numbers is shit.

>>385523941
>unless you fuckin suck
We're talking about mmo players here.

>>385523316
>2016
lmao

>>385522331
>reddit spacing

>>385517047
nope

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the fanbase claims that this guy&game is mocking the fanbase.

I don't see it

>>385517047
The whole game is just a heart of darkness reference.

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>>385511893

>>385524174
>getting mad over something trivial

>>385519865
Nice.

>>385511893
This is so very dark indeed.

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Hooooo boy.

>>385511893
Thanks John

>>385510745
No Man's Sky center of the galaxy being pretty much nothing more than a hard reset.

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>>385520569
At least that resulted in funny pictures.

>>385523104
kek
I do like games that acknowledge your death, as long as they're in-game and with a good variety of them.

>>385517047
I fucking hate how this game is seen as soemthing good because muh story! It's the same fuckign reason DoD, Nier, E.Y.E. are seen as "good" games when they are fucking shit. It's shit.

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>>385526637
EYE is seen as a good game because you backstab cyberdemons with a katana and run around on cyberlegs sniping people with a minigun. It's just fun to play.

>>385525360
>best expansion
>mocking the playerbase

Huh?

>>385519305
Honestly I'd rather normalfags than people who haven't showered in 3 months.

>>385526614
>I do like games that acknowledge your death

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c4hnA8jXwo

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>>385526637
Try again, jian.

>>385518116
>implying posters on /v/ aren't on NEETbux or their mom's husband's insurance

>>385517652
>Remember the piss poor gunplay?
>Remember the shitty endlessly spawning enemies?
my god THIS. I dropped this game and never bothered finishing it because of how bad it was. Fuck anyone that shilled this game.

>>385526751
kek. Also the death scenes in the Arkham games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp2VWEPh1-M

>>385511893
Game might be shit but that's some top tier banter.

Gamers don't need to be your audience.

>>385517553

I hate that people who post like this about people who play video games, like they're some foreign entity they don't identify with remotely, feel comfortable posting here.

>>385518960
no, just a coincidence and that is how a lot of directory maps are.

>>385510745
>ITT buttfrazzled snowflakes assume every joke is at their expense

it's like /r9k/ only instead of just assuming that a girl laughing near you means she's laughing at you it extends to every facet of your fucking life

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>>385529478
I don't think anyone is actually offended or distressed about anything in this thread, Anon.

>>385529645
Except for all those faggots whining about SpecOps...
But yeah, most people are pretty chill about most of this.

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>>385529680
REEEE

>>385529294
lol, how mad did this make you?

>>385531116
not at all, especially considering I've never even played the game

>>385525890
The color scheme is hideous

>>385531416
It's Saints Row 4 blue filter because simulation n shiet.

>>385511893
Cringe.

>>385526709
I wish I could understand eye to get that far in

>>385532647
There's nothing to understand. Get 3 MetaStreum genes in the chargen, click reroll until all stats are in 30s-50s. Then just follow orders. Shooting is some of the most fun I've seen on the Source engine.

>>385511893
I ain't playing your broken ass game Romero.

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>>385532647
>I wish I could understand eye to get that far in
There are like three moments in the game where you are required to do anything else but run and gun in the game: all three of them involve hacking something (usually a door) under no pressure.

Everything else is just "follow the markers, kill shit". Sure, the game gives you fuckton of additional options how to kill stuff, but they are just that: flavor options that you really don't need to bother yourself until you want to.

If some part of the game is giving you a LOT of grief, just put on heavy armor, grab a chain gun and as much ammo as you can, and just slog through slowly. It was ABSOLUTELY ON EVERYTHING except for the late-game missions where you encounter Deus Ex and the fucking choppers. They are literally the first enemies that can't be cheezed by heavy armor + chain gun.

>>385511893
I didn't quit life, fucking life quit trying, just a diseased husk that deserves to be given a mercy killing. I fucking despise how I have the share the same planet as disgusting meaningless liberals, welfare queens, and leeches.

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>>385519019
Are you mentally disabled

>>385533789
lol what a gay

>>385534184
Go fuck yourself, you parasite.

>>385511893
PUT ME IN THE SCREENCAP REDDIT!

People who say SpecOps is deep and 'only brainlets don't get it' are totally self-fellating. The game simply traps you in a limited narrative perspective, then teases your character's sense of autonomy and heroism by having him become a terrible villain questionably outside of his control. You can either enjoy that or not, but loving it doesn't mean you're more intelligent or that you understood more than the people who didn't. The game is willfully dishonest and intentionally muddled while you're playing it, in order to communicate the paradox of both powerlessness and total power being at play in an individual trying to exercise his morality in a massive war system that is callous to it. You can know that, and pick up on it, and entirely experience that message, and still respond with frustration towards the game, because the game itself actually props itself up to be the villain. The game attempts to be beyond you as an agent, and even if you are wise to what is happening, and are able to pick up on its trickery as you play it, the game is still rigged and is intentionally designed as a deterministic non-choice for you to bang your head against, so that you can learn to feel helplessness. The game, its situations, and it's narrative is designed to be as frustrating as a war that fools you into becoming a villain. The game may have a message about philosophy, but it is intentionally designed to be an uncontrollable monster that begs your defeat and personal failure to act morally against it. It fucking sucks, and you can like it for that or not, but the events of the game are supposed to fucking suck. It should make sense when people respond to the real-life problem this game is meant to represent with anger and frustration. Claiming not to forgive the evil this game suggests because you are 'far more intelligent than the people who don't' is merely a wounded mechanism by which you claim superiority to its terrible siatuation by asserting your ability to accept it

>>385517553
How is it 'thin skinned' to respond to a story about the frustration of helplessness against a murderous and cruel world that you are contributing to with frustration?

>>385511893
>Romero thought he was in any kind of position to talk shit

Fuck you, Romero. You quit success out of being a retard. You could have remained the world's greatest idea guy/level designer but you wanted to live like a rockstar, and now you're raising your wife's latino son while Carmack bangs an azn qt every single night

>>385534332
wew lad

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>>385511893
This seems like a great reaction image or banner

>>385522191

Wasn't that one of the Carmageddon games? 2 if memory serves...

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>>385510745
Vid related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEXurYaIHao

>>385512430
>Thank god that game was awful
t. never actually played it but i'll still autistically hate on it.

>>385535710
that whole section was dumb

>>385536878
Let it go Tameem

>>385511492
I still can't believe not a single one of them saw this mockup and realized that a demonic cowboy doing fisticuffs in the mountains is several times more unique and interesting than their own game.

>>385537662
They knew what they were supposed to think. It wasn't an argument, it was a briefing on how the company was meant to behave regarding the series. The image convinces no one, it's their paychecks which do that.

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>>385515773
>>385510745
>Could be a subtle animaniacs reference.
fucking retards

>>385532846
>>385533076
>>385533524
Is it not like Deus Ex with like a million options to do anything? Is it better with co-op? I might give it another go tomorrow. I'm bad at character building.

>>385536808
Why even bother adding that into your Dub? How come no one at any point sat down and asked the rest of the team "Hey shouldn't we remove this line? I mean there is a strong overlap with GG and our audience and well there is no real reason to have it here"

>>385539148
"Serious Sam made by Deus Ex fanboys" is the shortest way to put it. The game focuses on combat a lot, there's exploration but you usually find huge amounts of NOTHING and occasionally some weird shit, there are a couple of dialogue options that change small stuff but the meat of the game is killing.
>I'm bad at character building.
Literally do what I've said in chargen.

>>385539563
Forgot to finish the post - do what I said in chargen, upgrade Guns to be able to buy Bearkiller, upgrade legs to go faster, heart (IIRC) to regenerate energy faster.

The first research should be medkit!

>>385539641
Thanks senpai.

>>385539460
>"there is no real reason to have it here"
They wouldn't think that, because their agenda is more important than a quality localization.
These days it seems like localizers feel like there's no reason to have Japanese media at all, it's just become a vessel for them to shove their uninformed beliefs into and mock the consumers that don't have a choice because they don't know moon.

>>385519997
Level everything to 99, max out all minigames, all the quests, achievement diaries, etc

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>>385517469
>>385510745
>>385518543

>>385539864
The Sonic Twitter is a gift from Tzeentch

>>385517373
How the fuck would a government have any ability to regulate that? Retard

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>>385510745
>>385539864
Remember that time Sonic mocked all us, of the trans players?

>>385540189
here's your reply

>>385511492
>Anonymous 07/29/17(Sat)06:55:33 No.
what is the source on this?

>>385539864
Fucking savage.

>>385540189
>mocking extremist retards of a group is mocking the whole group
>people are seriously this thin skinned and retarded

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>>385540189
It was just a joke about how some tranny faggots reacted towards that tweet
https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/699781763346800640

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wMfNll75qk
there's a brown chick in the middle of the magazine spread

>>385524312
AI colonel literally calls you out on it if you suck at the game.

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>>385540685
>huh?
I hate these faggots but sometimes their ignorance is hilarious

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>>385511893

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH

DELETE

>>385541128
>Incognito mode

>>385541128
>Ny Flik
För i helvete.

>>385541128
Your are aiming to "yes", so...

>>385536878
>game mocks the original fanbase to try to appease to a new casual audience
>somehow i have to play the game to think its awful

>>385541457

I hate clearing my history

>>385541493
Legitim OCD, jag ber om ursäkt.

>>385513928
That's not true. You can easily outlive the corp.

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>>385541602
>Game mocks the original fanbase
By any chance are you one of the posters that do not like spec ops the line because you enjoy taking things a game says or shows personally

this is like saying the Sonic shoes in the trash can in donkey Kong country 2 is calling Sonic fans garbage people

>>385541128
Nice hands anon, I wonder how a handjob from you would feel, haha

>>385540935
She never said she wasn't mad in any of those posts. And he kind of completely forgets that you can't avoid making multiple posts on Twitter with the word limit. So... yeah. Huh?

>>385541128
>Gun
Nice. Can I see how tiny your dick is too?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuYUoLM8BNA

>>385512539
>>385518116
i thought it was a second life joke. im not familiar with NY buildings though. if anyone is, they could probably clear that up pretty easily

>>385543872
Pretty gay, bro.

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>>385511893

>>385511893
like he should have quit making the game

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>>385524014
if people were paid decent wages, they would spend more on shit they dont need, boosting profits and the economy. instead, industries just die off and complain that millennials dont buy as much useless shit anymore, and cant afford to buy more important things like houses

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>>385516280
>>385519095

>>385545259
>hobby grade coop campaign

What the fuck does that even mean

>>385545259
I'm feeling bad for Randy. Not like I'd play his games, but hurts to see his pain

>>385511340
What is this from?

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>>385545632
>feeling bad for the lying man

>>385545772
Fallout 4, I think.

>>385545259
Blizzard does ban jerks from playing their games, the catch is you need first to attract players to ban them.

>>385545690
Borderlands 3 is going to be a success unless they fuck up something on a galactic scale. The gameplay is fine, the art style is good and the most people remember the series as a good co-op experience.

>>385511340
>bethesda actually thinks they have any basis for mocking their audience or being "self-aware XD"

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>>385511893
It's just copied over from Quake.

>>385545690
What pain? Fucker has been pumping out garbage for years and he's still in the business.

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>>385545830
>Borderlands 3 is going to be a success
They are going head to head against Activision's Destiny 2
Randy's new game will suffer defeat once again by a game made by blizzardtivision

>>385511893
this is ironic considering that romero quit making video games and is now a gas station attendent

>>385517447
In WW2 on the eastern front women fought but the Soviets used everything they had because uncle Hitler was going to send all the Slavs to gas chamber.

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>>385511643

>>385517047

kys, that game sucks

>>385546018
JUST

>>385517447
Soldiers? Meaning payed for military service on the front line? In the single digits. Of course depending on culture and time. Roman legion probably had 0 female legionaires, though we know some female japanese women participated in sengokou jidai.
I really hate you people spreading lies like this.

>>385546105
Isnt that guy selling mobile games now?

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>>385511893
I dont-......

>>385546018
Destiny 2 is coming out in September already, and we've yet to see a release date on BL3. I guess there's a possibility that their funding will be cut, but from what we saw the development is going on just fine.

>>385524312
I've never seen a game provoke such amount of reaching and mental gymnastics. It's fascinating, really. They projected just about everything they could to support their flimsy teenage fedora-tipping theory.

>>385546773
>They projected just about everything they could to support their flimsy teenage fedora-tipping theory.

especially now since MGS4 outright ignores/changes/fixes it

>>385518291
C'mon dude. I'm Belgian and I knew what building it referenced like 5 years ago.

>>385543156
>its real
wew
https://twitter.com/MarvelPuzzle/status/890705771033354240

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>>385518518
>>385519592
>>385520630
>>385520821
>>385522589
Shut up and fuck off, Yahtzee.

>>385545772
orders for the super mutants you can find in their inventory in fallout 4

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>>385511893
>No
>ALT + F4
Who's laughing now?

>>385547048
Well yeah anon did you think I'd post a lie on the internet?

>>385545690
>haha crying bigots lmao you get it white tears lol xD
>please feel bad for me :((

>>385543156
Heather Graham?

>>385547564
It's like seeing a child trying to mock you, but he hurts himself instead. It's not funny.

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>>385526614

>>385547564
His own side doesn't even want him now. When Anitia kicked out that weird dude he was talking about how she was retweeting a fan fic of her shooting him and taking over Gearbox studios

>>385526751
based

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>>385515756
Have this one.

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>>385547985
Fucking what?

>>385535416
this should pop up if you quit winnie the pooh's homerun derby before getting to owl

>>385517205
>>385517263
>>385517652
>>385517762
>>385517781
I could swear there was a time when this game was praised by /v/ and now this, what gives? Is this place just a huge fucking hivemind

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>>385511492
>>385512291
I will NEVER stop being mad.