There is nothing wrong with this game and you know it.

it's popular?

>3 years since a new weapon was introduced
Defend this

Melee hit detection is real bad. It's like you're trying to kiss the enemy to death instead of swinging a weapon around.

>>385504052
Then you get Demomen who can hit you from 15 feet away.

Explain why the Demoman's bottle doesn't break anymore.

>nothing wrong

There is not a single video game that has "nothing wrong" with it, everything has flaws

>>385504087
He can hit people a yard away yet if you're slightly above or below his crosshairs, you miss. The weapons don't swing, they don't feel like things being waved around.

There wasn't but then they couldn't just leave it alone. TF2 taught me that it isn't actually a blessing to have a game be "developed" forever. Went from one of the greatest team shooters to the predecessor of Early Access.

engineer update was the peak of tf2 glory
f2p update was the guy digging the grave
steam workshop was the nail in the coffin

>>385504235
This is why 1.6 had such staying power, it was developed with a certain balance in mind, and once they were done, they left it alone aside from bug fixes and such.

I play degreaser/reserve shooter pyro out of spite spite because Valve thinks this is okay but me having a functional axtinguisher isn't.

>>385504050
It's a 10 year old game and there's literally dozens of weapons.

the players
the current devs
the hitreg
97% of the cosmetics

just going to leave this truth bomb here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1W5DU4zmAA

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>>385503914
It stops Half-life 3 from being developed

OFFICIAL 2017 TF2 CLASS FUN POWER RANKINGS

1. Soldier
2. Demo
3. Sniper
4. Scout
5. Medic
6. Spy
7. Pyro
8. Engineer
9. Heavy

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How to fix TF2
by Anon
========
*Make the aesthetic breaking cosmetic be halloween/full-moon only
*Replace aesthetic breaking weapons with fitting artstyle counterparts and remove drops and market availablity for the ones replaced.
*Remove Matchmaking[/system]
There. now you fags love TF2 again and will say its back on its glory.

>>385504419
Literally nothing to do with gameplay and if you care about tf2 because of the graphics you have severe brain cell deficiency.

>>385504482
medic being that high...

sniper, spy, and pyro should be at top

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>>385504137
*breathes down ur neck*

>>385504549
the game runs worse each update despite all the god awful downgrades they did to TF2

Steam workshop ruined this game.

They let shitty players make their own items and let them put it in the game, and valve made it so that if you contribute an item, you get a shiny community hat.

That's when all the shitty traders start learning 3d modeling with no art background and you get a bunch of garbage hats and cosmetics no one wanted and then valve can just slap that all into a box, add one map, and call it an update.

Fucking traders and their greedy little money grabbing hands.

>Valve killing community servers
>not the worst decision they ever made

Compniggers

>>385504514
name 5 aesthetic breaking weapons
I'm curious

>>385505237
I personally dont have problem with any weapon so i cant give you any particular example but /v/ shits on tf2 constantly because of "muh artstyle", thats why i included those in my post.

the weapons are actually treated as guns that simply shoot a very short range invisible hitscan projectile, that's why you will see an animation of demoman swinging his big ass sword in a wide arc but you didn't hit the guy in front of you because the crosshair wasnt on him. if weapons actually swung, demoknight would be able to devastatingly cleave multiple targets. everything is a gun in tf2, and melee is literally an illusion brought upon by limitations

>>385503914

It's quite casual.

>>385504417
Jesus Christ, 10 years. I didn't realize this until you said it. How the fuck has so much time passed?

>Hats
>Invented loot crates that require you to pay actual money to unlock
>Loot crates are effectively gambling with no oversight
>In-game marketplace where you can buy weapons and hats made entirely by end users with actual money, giving Valve a cut of said money despite Valve having nothing to do with the creation of said weapons or hats

TF2 spawned all of the cancer that infects online multiplayer shooters today.

>>385504307
This. The game started going to shit probably a year after the engineer update.

>>385505237
Lollichop
Self Aware Beauty Mark
Mutated Milk
Candy Cane(too christmas)
Wrap Assassin(again too christmas)
Arguably the Grodbort Weapons and any other Sci fi-ish weapons

>>385505237
Any of the Deus Ex promotional weapons except for maybe the Short Circuit.
The widowmaker, diamondback, and machina all look really out of place.

>>385505852
Grobort weapons look straight out of a 60's spy movie which is literally the aesthetic of TF2.

>>385504472
Who the fuck cares about hl3 though? Hl2 was just a tech demo for the new engine at the time.

>>385505852
Isn't the Lollichop only available with Pyrovision on?

>>385505852
1. Pyrovision
2. & 3. Expiration Date you fucking pleb
4. & 5. Dumbest argument i've ever read

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>>385503914
It's dead, Jim.

>>385503914
it went f2p and my painstakingly vetted coolkid sekrit server list died.

>>385503914
TF2 has things wrong with it, OP.
However it is the best game on the market anyway.
>>385504050
If they added a new weapon every update, we'd have too many to remember what they all do.
>>385504095
Change to c_model system. Unintentional.
>>385504307
>>385505832

>le GRAVE le DED le SHIT xD
Team Fortress 2 is still the best multiplayer game on the market; I challenge you to name a better one. A "Dead game" is one with nobody playing, yet 1,700,000 people played TF2 in the last 2 weeks.
>>385505852
>Lollichop
Pretty sure that appears as a totally normal Fire Axe to everyone who isn't in Pyroland.

>>385506537
>m-muh cosmetics that don't affect gameplay
Neck yourself
If the game didn't go f2p it would actually be dead

>>385506514
>>385506413
I honestly forgot Pyrovision was even a thing

Also why should Christmas stuff be treated any different than Halloween stuff, and also mutant bread shit might as well be Halloween stuff.

>>385506537
>1,700,000 people playing it suddenly don't exist because some uncommon and ugly cosmetics (that can be modded it out) are in the game

Is this really how your logic works?

>>385506754
>I don't know how to mod
>I don't understand what price driven rarity is
Neck yourself
>If the game didn't go f2p it would actually be dead
TF2 has far, far more players than the many other F2P games out there, so that's not right either

TF2 is still populated because TF2 is still fundamentally the best game on the market

>>385506851
>I don't know how to mod
>I don't understand what price driven rarity is
???
What does this have to do with anything I said?
>TF2 has far, far more players than the many other F2P games out there, so that's not right either
It's a Valve game
There are plenty of better shooters like Quake that are dead

>>385506782
>1,700,000 F2P Russians, Hues, and Chinks

>>385506735
>Change to c_model system. Unintentional.
this is actually false. Valve made it unbreakable because players thought breaking the bottle gave it higher damage

aaaa yada

>>385506774
What do you define as Christmas stuff? I think that the winter coats look alright themselves

>>385506253
Indeed, but they don't have proper TF2 shading

>>385507212
Cold weather and snow aren't explicitly associated with Christmas, but candy canes, wrapping paper, and Christmas tree ornaments definitely are.
So Heavy wearing a parka and a fur hat isn't out of place, but Heavy dressed as Santa is.

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>>385507078
>What does this have to do with anything I said?
Because ugly cosmetics are very rare and you can mod them out, dumbass.
Only literally 0.1% of TF2 players even own the banana hat, for example.
>It's a Valve game
Is this meant to be an argument?
>There are plenty of better shooters like Quake that are dead
Quake has less content than TF2 on offer, just the same selection of 9 weapons for eternity, and that's why it's dead. TF2's huge amount of maps and weapon unlocks and the variety between stock classes kept it alive for so long
>>385507090
Chinks don't play Team Fortress
See pic as to why you're wrong
>>385507134
>this is actually false. Valve made it unbreakable because players thought breaking the bottle gave it higher damage
No, THAT is actually false. It's a myth.
The real reason it changed is because of the model system change.
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Bottle#Update_history
No such justification from Valve about "players breaking it thinking it does more damage" is in existence. They never said any such thing.

Don't correct people when you don't know what you're talking about.

>>385507612
>ullapool caber breaks
>stock bottle cant

>>385507160
aaaAA-AAAAawgh

>>385507854
The ullapool has a gameplay reason that it breaks though, the stock bottle is purely cosmetic

>>385506735
>I challenge you to name a better one
Day of Infamy

>>385508356
>less players than tf2
>lower skill ceiling than tf2
>less content than tf2
>inferior design to tf2
yeah nah

>>385507160
IN-CUH-MEENG

>>385507612
>Because ugly cosmetics are very rare and you can mod them out, dumbass.
>Only literally 0.1% of TF2 players even own the banana hat, for example.
Again, what does this have to do with what I said?
>Is this meant to be an argument?
Yes? Valve games are popular what's the issue?
>Quake has less content than TF2 on offer, just the same selection of 9 weapons for eternity, and that's why it's dead. TF2's huge amount of maps and weapon unlocks and the variety between stock classes kept it alive for so long
What does content have to do with being good? Stop changing the goalposts.

>>385508437
>less players than tf2
Doesn't make it a worse game than TF2
>lower skill ceiling than tf2
DoI requires pure skill.
>>less content than tf2
It's also a much newer game than TF2 and it is made by a lesser-known studio.
>inferior design to tf2
What's inferior DoI's design?

>Re-join tf2 after half a year of stop
>Play Engineer and do damn fine, top scoring and everything
>Start watching videos to improve even further, namely Uncle Dane
>Follow his tips in game
>Suddently get terribly worse at engineer
What the fuck

>>385508864
playing engie at a basal level is easy
playing offensive engie is hard since engie wasn't intended for offense
Dane's playstyle is higher skill investment for higher reward but you've got to practice

>>385509302
I see. I just can't get good with the Rescue Ranger, that's my biggest issue. I always find the stock shotgun more reliable.
I'll keep doing some practice.

>>385508543
>Again, what does this have to do with what I said?
I can't boil it down any simpler for you dumbass.
>what's the issue?
When did I say there was?
>What does content have to do with being good?
Replayability, you daft fuck.

Are you just pretending to be retarded to bait me?

>>385508556
>Doesn't make it a worse game than TF2
It makes it less easy to find a game than TF2. A dead game is no good to anybody
>DoI requires pure skill
You're confusing skill floor with skill ceiling. A good game is easy to learn and hard to master. TF2 has a higher skill ceiling.
>It's also a much newer game than TF2 and it is made by a lesser-known studio.
Excuses don't change facts, it still has way less content than TF2.
>What's inferior DoI's design?
Everything?

>>385509687
>I can't boil it down any simpler for you dumbass.
You sure you're replying to the right person?
>Replayability, you daft fuck.
Most updates were shit though.

>>385511512
>You sure you're replying to the right person?
What are you talking about?
>Most updates were shit though.
Except they weren't.

>>385513036
>add a couple maps
>add a couple of modes no one plays
>add a shit ton of cosmetics
>add some useless or OP weapons
Basically every TF2 update since it went f2p

>>385503914
>nothing wrong with this game
>can't play a female scout
pick one

>>385514637
>add a couple maps
How the fuck is this a bad thing
>>add a couple of modes no one plays
The only mode NOBODY plays is arena
>add a shit ton of cosmetics
Also fine, they get added because people want them
>>add some useless or OP weapons
that's why out of 170 weapons in tf2 comp only bans 20? because apparently they're OP?
>>385514819
You're the problem, not the game, dumb waifufag

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>>385515840
>no u
Gotcha.

I'm just glad tf2 never got ruined by waifufags due to not having any female characters playable.
It's all about banter with the lads

>>385516073
Why would anyone ruin something dead?
You don't hear about battleborn do you?

>>385515996
Nice try.

>>385516212
Stop posting the dead meme, it's already been thoroughly debunked a thousand times over and we're tired of telling you to stop being retarded.

The only dead thing around here is your brain

>>385504514
how to fix tf2: make the halloween items usable any time
add back the maps that aren't being used to casual mode
more hats and cosmetics

>>385503914
Its dead

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holy FUCK

PYRO UPDATE ANNOUNCED

https://youtu.be/1Fx7u57KIrE

>>385516368
wow you really showed me

I'm sorry for your dead game, come on Overwatch with us and use a different name so you don't hurt your pride too much

>>385507160
HEAVY IS SPY

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>>385516671
>le ded xD
this is your final (you) baka bait-kun

>>385516406
>how to fix tf2: make the halloween items usable any time
>how to make TF2 worse
halloween items totally ruin class recognition

>>385517170
I'm not baiting for (You)s I'm just telling you that Overwatch is a way larger game than all the other dead ones (Paladins/Gigantic/TF2/Lawbreakers/Battleborn/Paragon)

>>385503914
There's a lot wrong with TF2 now, anon. It's still a fun game but don't kid yourself.

>>385517170
That many fucking people still play TF2? That's actually very impressive

>>385517448
I don't know about Asia, but I'm certain that Overwatch has less concurrent users than Tf2 in both Americas and Europe.

>>385517605
1,700,000 people logged into tf2 in the last fortnight
It takes me about 10 seconds to find a full 12v12 game.
I mean yeah, it's a really well designed game which is free to play and has a shitload of content, so it's probably still going to be well populated for another 5 years minimum

>>385517797
>>385517797
Blizzard refuses to state concurrent users, so we can only guess

>>385515840
>that's why out of 170 weapons in tf2 comp only bans 20? because apparently they're OP?
Most weapons are useless, stupid

>>385518439
It's pretty telling. Similar to how they boast about having X millions amount of *players*, after having 2 Free Beta tests.

>>385515840
>that's why out of 170 weapons in tf2 comp only bans 20? because apparently they're OP?
they're not balanced for 6v6

what happened to the party van server

>>385517605
I still do.

Because nobody can name a better skill based one.

>>385517170

overwatch is a fucking joke

literally every single person i know, including myself regret buying it and stopped playing it after about 3 months of its release.

they literally can not get the balance right, the game play feels shit, and the ults and abilities just make it feel like a moba.