Any MMORPGs you lookin' forward for anon?

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>>385487403
Pantheon and Crowfall both look great, but i'm content with Everquest 2 til they get a full release.

Any cool MMO like The Secret World? Albion kinda interested me, but it's too PVP oriented.

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Lineage Eternal look kinda cool if it's a real MMO.

>>385488648
Not interested by Ashes of Creation?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X3WKcb18PA

Lost Ark looks good, hoping for a Dragon's Dogma Online english release someday ;_;

>>385487403
no

Albion Online came out and it's kinda shit. I'm feeling jaded again.

Who has time for MMOs. When they make an MMO where I can progress by playing 5 or 6 hours a week then I'll look forward to them. Otherwise no adult has time for that shit except useless NEETs.

>>385487403
Nah, FFXIV is my go to MMO. Everything else on the market is closing servers or going F2P pay 2 win.

>>385489278
Go play The Secret World Legend. It's pretty much a Solo game, online.

Moonlight Blade, looks comfy as fuck

Still having fun in Guild Wars 2 though, fuck the haters.

>>385489146
>tab targeting
I'll pass.

>>385488781

What do you like about TSW?
What don't you like about it?

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>tfw there will never ever be a good mecha MMO

>>385489370
you could at least try to not sound like a marketer

>>385489146

isn't this that pyramid scheme mmo?

>>385487403
Dark Souls the MMO in 2018

>>385489507

Oh, sorry faglord

I LOVE NINTENDO, FUCK ME MIYAMOTO OH LORDY, BUY MORE SWITCHES AND MINI NESSSES N SNUSSES

Better?

>>385489353
I played it. Didn't like the combat that much. And it runs kind of finicky on my laptop which is weird because I used to play TESO on it at 50fps on better graphic settings.

I used to have time for MMOs a year ago when I only studied but now that I work 35 hours plus I study I just don't have the time as much as I'd like to play them. Gonna be all over RuneScape on my phone tho, I can probably get away with playing while it's slow.

>>385489461
I love :
The story, universe, quest, the mature feeling
It has quests that require you to actually do web researchs to find like the name of some guy for a password. You need some investigating skills.

I dont like : The combat is probably still the worst part of it, but they fixed it. The lack of loot is kinda weird too for my taste.

If you like Lovecraft/horror/schemes, you will probably like The Secret World Legends. Easy to play when you want, dungeon need 3 guys to go through, and you heal with an AK47

>>385489370

Yeah, with regards to gw2 im only playing for raids (just started). It's weird as someone who is used to wow and ffxiv raids. Since everyone went in when it launched with the same stats they have now, but its far easier for some people who are experienced. Fights are sometimes a bit too hectic for my taste but overall im having a different kind of fun from wow raiding. Less pressure, more of a "do whatever boss you want" vibe. and having account-wide lockouts where people switch classes for different bosses is weird.

>>385489423
Dont Crowfall and Pantheon both have Tab Targeting?

>>385487403
More FFXIV patches, 4.1 is next month or September.

>>385489784

Oh I'm playing SWL right now. I just bought a radiant gamblers soul for 250 somehow. I was asking because I wanted to know what you might like. But I don't know of any mmo with the same level of atmosphere (when you happen to run into the really good quests), or the same level of puzzles. I've never played a game that had me translate arabic, look up bible verses, or look for the ISBN number of a book on amazon.

Runescape is grindy as fuck but its the only game I've played with quests that weren't really basic.

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>>385488648
>crowfall looks great
i backed it and i have nothing but buyers remorse

>>385490290
Backing MMO's is probably the worst thing you can back.

>>385490290
Why's that? I haven't been following it but it was on my "warily waiting for" list.

>>385489852
If they do, I'll pass on them too.

>>385490290
i don't understand what's wrong with this
it's just a roman centaur?

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Camelot Unchained
is another one I backed
>>385490516
Yeah, it was an impulse thing, I used to play nothing but MMOs growing up and I liked playing all the ones on the market so I still tend to preorder them even though ive sort of grown tired of the genre
>>385490540
The community seems like it's full brain dead retards who want nothing but handouts and to push weird agendas not to mention the guys who are making this game dont have a great track record IIRC the team is comprised of a few guys who made an older decent MMO and the rest have only made mobile shovelware
and the way the devs handle their update reeks of a scam, i'm not saying it is but thats the impression i get everytime i watch one of their update videos, they always seem to be asking for more backers and funding
>>385490656
That wasnt the image I thought it was, about 2-3 years ago i used to post on the forums frequently and I stumbled across
NUMEROUS threads of people claiming centaurs needed to be removed because they were to reminiscent of nazis
i was incredibly confused by this and wanted to share it with my friends so i took a screenshot and named it that

>>385490580
Crowfall is Action based it seem, but Pantheon do seem Tab.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INd9SfIbWN4

That sandbox game from South Korea that they were trying to make extremely Japanese/anime looking. I forget the name but you know the one.

>>385490938
So it's Everquest in a more generic setting?

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>>385491050
Peria Chronicle?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI1V8NLnoOY

>>385490928
>5 people liked this post
It doesn't seem like it's going to affect matters that much, anon
Every community is going to have shitlords, if you want to have a hilarious time just look at the world of warcraft forums.

>>385491265
This actually looks pretty fricken cool, especially once they showed off the scripting shit

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>>385491335
who knows
all i know is that the active community on the forums last time i browsed it was insanely retarded
maybe its changed but i assume like every other community on the internet its only gotten worse with time
and sadly devs tend to listen to whom they believe the majority are
and these retards seemed to have a pretty large presence

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bless online is the only upcoming mmo I give a shit about.

>>385491265
I was interested in that game until
>battle system a mix of pokemon and card battle
dropped

>>385491497
I just cant seem to know what combat is? Is it tactical?

Why is Rift so hard to enjoy? I should love the fuck outta this game

Aren't they going to murder and rebuild it? What the fuck is the story behind that game and its development?

>waiting for mmo
>waiting for gook trash
lol

>>385491653
It used to be great. But now they stripped way too much of the game for my taste. I was a Day 1 player that left after 3 months, and after 3 years they seem to have removed so much.

Pantheon: Rise of the Generic EQ Clone
Ashes of the Juice Jew's Ponzi Scheme

Obviously skeptical of both.

>>385491651
>gook
>know anything about gameplay, combat
They only know how to ripoff whatever Japs shit out, dipshit

>>385491580
>battle system a mix of pokemon and card battle
Why is this bad?
I'm sick of seeing the same generic tab targeting shit repeated ad infinitum myself

>>385491580
Anon, I...
http://bless-source.com/news/aeria-cancels-publishing-deal-for-europe-and-north-america/

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>>385487403
Teamspeak friends are waiting for the alpha/beta/whatever.

>>385491878
http://bless-source.com/news/neowiz-still-wants-to-release-bless-on-the-western-market/

http://bless-source.com/news/rebuild-project-announced/

Anon, I...

>>385491892
It would help if we knew the name of that game.

>>385491651
See >>385491580

>>385491892
Trying way too hard to replace real life. Realism sucks past a certain point and they're looking at it in the rear view mirror.

orbus looks pretty cool

>>385487403
No, because WoW is still king.

>>385491863
it sounds like garbage, it looks like garbage.

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>>385491998
WoW is dated.

>>385491892
>out of stock
people didn't actually buy this scam right?

>>385491654
was meant for >>385491580

Why you looking forward to it? Should I be looking forward to it?

>>385491892
>4500 dollarydoos for a founder pack

>>385491964
>wants to
>promises
>hopes to
>believes
>in the future
Anonymous-sama, I-I...

>>385491863
I'm sick of seeing the same generic first person based shooters for 30+ years but you don't see me complaining

>>385492143
I personally hate the FPS market oversaturation myself, anon

>>385492138
I said it's the only one I care about, not that I'm absolutely certain it'll turn things around. Stop moving the goal post.

>>385491983
Chronicles of Elyria

Gonna rename the file heh.

>>385492127
Yeah but it's 10% off. That's a good deal.
Their top donor has 15,340 USD in the game.

>>385492258
It's never coming out in the west. They just say they want to independently publish their MMO and offer no plans as to how or date ranges as to when.

>>385489726
>reddit spacing

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>>385491580
How well is this doing in Korea? Heard it wasn't even doing well there.
I'll be cautiously optimistic about it, it looks nice.

>>385492375
What's that old saying? "A fool and his money are soon parted"?

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>>385492471
>"A fool and his money are soon parted"?
pretty good saying

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>>385491892
Cheaper section

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I'm somewhat interested with Dark Eden. It look like Diablo 2. And should release in like 2 days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQrq4pz3JzQ

>>385491892
this game sounds cool as shit, i like how much they make it sound like you can do when you're in a position of power
however the fact that you can just BUY those positions of power with real life currency is bullshit and defeats the purpose

>>385492062
Man that graph is shit.

>>385492531
>it look like diablo 2
Not with that movement speed jesus christ

>>385492443
>offer no plans as to how or date ranges as to when
You don't run before you can crawl, anon. How about let them get their shit together before they start signing contracts or setting up a western branch.
>>385492458
Down to one server. They're going back into hard development for a reason. It was just announced they're willing to rebuild the game to try and fix its problems. The first round of testing happens next week.

Why is it so scarce to be able to be barefoot in an MMO these days?

>>385492734
>back to hard development
So they're basically pulling a FFXIV:ARR.
What were the problems it had aside from being Korean developed?

>>385492709
How is it shit?

>>385492865
As said by the dev; character progression, combat, crafting, mounts/pets, and performance. Performance being the most important one

>>385489353
Not him but they've properly fucked it up. Once you hit 50 the game goes sharply downhill.

The new gear system is fucking retarded and making multiple gear sets a complete pain in the ass. Having every single drop being a fucking level 1 green kills any sense of reward from quests or dungeons. Everything has been simplified to retard levels, weapon skills have no synergy with different weapon skills or barely even any with other skills on the same weapon. For some ungodly reason there are now 10 dungeon difficulty levels, yet they can't be arsed to properly balance rewards or requirements for all but a few levels.

Basically unless you are a casual f2per, the game is shit.

>>385493669
Are the quests still extremely well written (for an mmo)?

>>385487403
Ragnarok mobile china versione with better eng patchpatch. Now i play ragnarok path of heroes (lv94)

>>385494242
>he actually plays Ragnarok mobile
>level 94

what are you? a stinky pajeet? that game is fucking shit.

>>385492702
>the fact that you can just BUY those positions of power with real life currency is bullshit and defeats the purpose
Just like real life!

>>385492062
How the fuck am I supposed to read this shit?

>>385494727
EPIC

>>385494727
simply epic guess I'll play a finished game like real life instead

>>385494837
Each vertical is a month/year and it's 100% of the market. You can see the market share of every MMO like that.
For example, in 2006, WoW had 95-40 of the market and so it had 55% of the market share.

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>>385491501
>>385490928
>Official MMO forums
>Ever anything other than a cesspool of filth
I've been playing MMOs since I was 9 years old, and I've never been to a SINGLE ONE that wasn't full of shitposting. I feel like you just probably want a reason to be pissed you spent money on a game that doesn't exist, because I've been following Crowfall without dropping a dime on it and I don't have any issues with the development. They never shill backing on their QnA videos like you claimed, they just opened up multiple races to multiple classes, they openly and repeatedly hammer in the fact that they're trying to cultivate a more sandbox community by including features like scouting and cartography to force players together to trade information, they just did a big graphics overhaul, etc.

What's your actual beef with this game?

>>385487403
None, trying out FFXIV but I'm not feeling it despite playing tab target Korean garbage for the longest time. I'll try to get to the end of my trial and see if I like it enough. Tried out Black Desert's free trial, combat is fun which is flashier but not as fun as Dragon Nest, it seems like it'll be basic outside of PvP. Kinda wish the trial lasted a bit longer so I can try grinding to 50+ and trying my bid at winning a pet.

Are there any PvP centric MMOs that're still alive?

I'm ridiculously stoked for Sea of Thieves.
I have exactly three friends who are equally excited, and they've only shown off crews of four, so it's like a sign.

>DURRR NOT AN MMORPG
It's massively multiplayer, online, and you're playing the role of a pirate in a game. Fuck outta here.

>>385495212
Define "alive"
>>385495305
Is that the pirate game where you play as a boat and nothing else?

>>385489002
This looks pretty cool, Ive never played lineage. Is there a release window set?

>>385495387
>play as a boat and nothing else?
Being on the boat is a good deal of it, yeah, but no, you can get off the boat and get treasure, presumably to spend it on something.

I'm a sucker for ship-based combat, though, so it being largely about the ships is fine with me.

>>385495387
>Define "alive"
Receives regular support and has enough of a playerbase to find pick-up groups for whatever the primary content is.

>>385495142
FFXIV is probably one of the worst games when it comes to a slow start, seriously the early game content is so unbelievably barren. The real meat of the gameplay is in the Dungeons and Trials combat.
But the story is actually pretty good and you can treat it more like a JRPG story than the normal MMO fare that most people just skip.

>>385495305
>It's massively multiplayer, online, and you're playing the role of a pirate in a game. Fuck outta here.
Battlefield confirmed for best new MMO.

Anyone in the Albion beta here? How is it?

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>>385495398
Not really.

i'm patching age of conan to dick about on that, doubt they've fixed the memory leaks

>>385495305
Sea of Thieves is a Team based Multiplayer game. Not a MMO. A MMO mean that you dont control who you see and there can be thousands of players at your location randomly.

For example, Guild Wars 1, Path of Exile, Diablo 2, are not MMO.

>>385495559
Devs are driving away from the PvP focus too much so now you just pretend you're playing runescape, click on a tree or a rock and get a base unity loading bar and repeat for your first 100 hours
sometimes you fight a trash mob and explode it in a millisecond

>>385494007
That's exactly the same so yes. Basically there will be no new content for the next 5 months, they are just going to be slowly rolling out Tokyo and treating it as "new" content. Oh and a crappy event boss raid in agartha to kick it off.

Games great if you just want to play it for free for the story. If you are looking for a game to be serious about and enjoy trying different builds or gearing up in than it sucks pretty bad. I went in wanting to love it because I liked TSW so much, but damn am I disillusioned now that I'm level 50.

The waiting and anticipation is the game. The MMORPG that you've been playing for forever.

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>>385487403
My old PvP team has gone to ground. If it happened in five years or ten only now am I really coming to terms with their absence. So a worthwhile PvP game comes along, what will it mean for me? I can't lead an army of skeletons to glory, that just doesn't work for video games.

>>385487403
the vr mmo coming out in 2022, it's the only thing that makes me feel like it'll be new and interesting like how ultima online was when it was at its peak. every other mmo seems too similar, too much grinding, cash shops, etc. and i don't want to play them.

>>385496058
make a new army from new friends in the new MMO?
hurr

>>385492446
>the purest falseflag meme

>>385496073
Yeah, seems like the primary focus anymore is on how many whales they can hook with paywalls or pay2notgrindforever. When it really should just have a cash shop chock full of cheap cosmetics and focus on getting tons of players hooked on a solid game.
There's a reason there's always candy bars and random shit in checkout lines and not TVs or stereos.

I just want Warband online, but with low fantasy and bigger map. Is that even sounds fun?

>>385495398
Its been in development hell since forever, together with other isometric MMOs. Oddly enough, all of them showed signs of life this year and rumors say they all will release next year. If its a coincidence or chinks planned an isometric comeback by 2019, we will never know. But hey, MMO in its current state is a dying genre, perhaps they really did study the market that way and isometric will be a big thing again. Not MMO but even fucking Blizzard dropped almost every project they had for the Diablo 4 development.

>>385496434
>2019
2018. Im not from the future, I swear.

>>385489278
It's called FFXIV

>>385495525
I'm hoping when I get to 30 it'll be more interesting, right now as a Thaumaturge and the story is more entertaining than the combat. If it does pick up and if the queue times aren't abysmal for duties need to progress the main story I can see myself subbing for a month or so and play with a couple friends who spent some time on the game. I've played main/secondary healer roles in MMOs for too long so now I want to try being DPS.

Anyone playing ESO right now? I keep thinking of trying it out since it's the only remaining big MMO I haven't, but I'm put off by the lack of a free trial. I know the entry price is lower than the average subscription fee, but I have an irrational fear of blind purchases.

>>385496615
Bad start mate. Thaumaturge is mostly for players that are already 50~70 in another job, it only gets fun at 50, before that its a really slow job.

>>385489278
What are you even doing on /v/ if you only have 5 to 6 hours a week to play vidya?

>>385496563
How longs it take to get to endgame content in FF XIV?

>>385496791
Around 1 month of playing through the whole story or $25 to buy a jump potion.

>>385496791
Months at normal pace, maybe a month and half if you no-life it. Like someone said before, its more of a JRPG than MMO, if you are not watching every cutscene you are doing it very, very wrong.

>>385496715
I've played it off and on, but never got much farther than level 20. Seemed like a really solid mmo, quests were half decent and it never really felt like they were only after my wallet.
But the Elder Scrolls world bores the piss out of me so I never last long. Just too much standard fantasy fare in a boring setting for me. Doesn't help that I loathe mmos where your character is the chosen one.

>>385496968
Most cutscenes are worthless tho, it's easier to skip most of them

>>385497008
Your call, but you are missing a great story for once. Even more impressive, its a great story in a fucking MMO, thats a first.

>>385497008
I mean, if you're in that gigantic level 50 msq quest slog between ARR and HW then the story is at a low point then. But everything else is pretty solid.

Does FF14 have any solo/small group endgame content or is it a "muh raids and muh heroic dungeons" game?

>>385497268
All the hardest content is 8 man but there is a lot of 4 man dungeons and easier 8 man content as well. 24 man raids are kind of tough but enjoyable. Outside of the absolute ball busting hardest content the game is pretty easy

>>385497268
Expert roulettes are smalll 4 party runs with semi challenging bosses, there is also crafting and hunts and a normal mode version of the raids for the casuals.

>>385496776
>it only gets fun at 50
So I need to go straight into buying Stormblood to get the most out of Black Mage? If it takes a month to get to 50+ and I get to the end of my trial I could probably convince a friend to get back on his Warrior since we aren't far off from each other in levels.

$40 doesn't seem too much especially considering how much I'd probably spend on the cash shop on Black Desert on shit like pets for automatic (but slow, and needing food) looting.

>>385497418
>24 man raids are kind of tough but enjoyable.
We played very different 24-man raids.

>>385496404
agreed, i know it's just a business for some people but making a good game can make you money too. there are still some mmos with good gameplay but the cash shops and grinding make it not worth playing.

>>385497268
the closest thing to solo content would be crafting and gathering, although if you find a hunt linkshell then for hunts all you really need to do is show up, there's not a lot of commitment there
everything else is party based

>>385497602
The Wiping City of Mhach was the only one that gave me any trouble, or are you saying you think they're boring?

>>385497525
SB is 61-70, so you dont need SB. Thaumaturge as Black Mage is fun at 50, and even more at 60, specially if you like to see shit explode. In the end you choose what job to level, its up to your fun, but now you know other jobs start getting dynamic at early levels while Thaumaturge is a late bloomer.

>>385497745

Stormblood kiddie detected.

The 24-man content on-release is pretty well curved in terms of the gear/difficulty scaling. It isn't up to snuff with the current savage tier, but it sure as shit isn't Lakshmi-Ex-tier pushover material.

>>385497745
They're all faceroll bullshit with minimal mechanics and a very lax idea of punishment for failure.

>>385497849
If you think Dun Scaith or Void Ark were hard even on the day they came out you're a fucking casul. They were fun and Scathach certainly gave us some troubles but the very first group I did it with on the night it came out we cleared, its not like its all that challenging.

Why does it always go down to FF14?

Bless is getting FFXIV treatment. getting sorta remade

>>385499986
because its a spicy meme game

>>385499986
Well it's the second most popular mmo right now far behind wow.

>>385501695
>far
I just cancelled my sub and uninstalled but you're deluded if you think that shit hasn't caught up or surpassed wow, insanely populated

>>385501954
Can't you read?

>>385501990
"second most popular mmo right now far behind wow"
can you?

>>385502064
Wow still has millions of subs.
FFXIV is barely breaking 200k

>>385501990
>right now far behind wow
Can't you write properly?

>>385502110
lol

>>385502148
FFXIV is already dead mate

>>385502176
nice b8, shits boring but you severely underestimate the amount of weebs plugged in

>>385502246
A new expansion released a month ago and the servers are already empty
it's dead jim

>>385491892
For anyone interested, completely ignore this piece of shit game.

It is so p2w it hasn't even started and it's beyond saving. Peolpe who spend more than $1k+ on the kickstarter get a 3 MONTH headstart on others.

On a beta server that will be wiped? No. They're starting 'testing' soon that will be wiped, the 3 months won't be, it'll be purely straight just worldbuilding. The game will be the next ArcheAge and if you put money into a game that made such a bad choice you're fucking stupid and I hope you enjoy your small playerbase.

I followed this game from th start, when I posted asking for clarification on the 3 month headstart on the forums I got my thread deleted three times, went into the discord and since most of these people were clique-fags that jumped onto one of these big guilds that had someone buy a duke or king(or multiple) starterpacks, they don't care as they will benefit from it.

It's truly sad because before the KS it looked better than Crowfall.

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>>385502272

>>385492062
Not only is this graph total garbage, it's totally wrong.

Notice how it leaves out one of the MMOs with the biggest population that beat WoW consistently in revenue for years.
"B-But anon that's a korean MMO"
It still won.

>>385502416
I don't understand how a company can do that.
Like, shit, 3 fucking month of advance in a MMO? That's just insane.

I've gotten into FFXIV recently, first MMO I've actually bought into in more than a decade. A lot of people cry about railroady main quests that you have to go through but that's probably the thing that got me into it. The story literally went "here's a dungeon, queue up with three other people and do it or fuck off", and that was the point where I found out that the multiplayer part of this MMO was actually pretty fun. In games like WoW or GW2 I kinda got the impression that any fun multiplayer content didn't happen until endgame. After I quit them I had a look much later and realized that I actually had plenty of opportunities to play through dungeons with parties, they just didn't point me to them.

>>385502494
Yeah, they've been testing the water with shit like this for years now though.

Remember when founders pack were only found in totally dead MMOs? Now they're in every MMO, EQ:N literally died because no one bought founder's packs for a game promised like 3 years in the future with not much to gain 'now'.

Tree of Savior tried the founder's shit with a headstart too (1 month, no reset), that also ended poorly, thankfully the people stood up. You can't stand up in a kickstarter where the average person throwing money at them is someone who enjoyed WoW for years and thinks they should get fucked at every passing.

Only MMO I bother playing is WoW and only during new expansion launch and near the end to collect everything.

I want to like FFXIV but it's too fucking boring. Think my trial warrior is at level 17 before I gave up.

There's such an ocean of bullshit mmos out there that I'm too lazy to look for a decent one. Albion looks promising though, so I'm keeping my eye on that.

>>385502586
I can understand early access of a few days (though only behind a pre-order which anyone could access) like Squareenix did for FFXIV Stormblood, but 1+ Month?
What the fuckk?
That's likke screaming to your playerbase "I'M P2W!" before even releasing the game.

>>385502619
>this p2w mmo looks promising
lol

>>385502619
Don't.

It had a huge dry spell even after beta because it was so shit that even founder's weren't playing it and left for other shit.

Take a second good hard look at it and you'll see it's shit.

A good rule to follow for MMOs. If you can take a look at the mid-high tier founder's pack and they offer a reward that is substantial, the game will die. By that I mean
A)Login priority (This one is fucking killer, ArcheAge it was a good portion of the reason the game died)
B)Head Start (Founders start week/month/etc early)
C)Item that stays relevant lategame or lets you essentially skip hours and forever be behind. (Horse start when horses are actually costly to get, special title with +Stats, House that has a bank attached in a game with weight/inventory limits that are easy to reach, etc)

Also it helps to know if the company has shit customer service.
I will never recommend ANY Trion game, their support to refund ArcheAge took 3 weeks just to get a response, another 2 weeks to get my money back. I had considered just messaging the bank my the third day but decided to wait as they were having so many refunds en masse I knew it would eventually be handled.

Nexon was very very bad back in the day too, I've had a ticket open once for 5 years before I got a response back, I'm not kidding. They got a LOT better in the last 2-3 years though

IMC Games is notoriously inflexible, their support can either do absolutely fucking nothing, or chooses not to. Robo-responses are the norm, but usually after 2-3 messages most company will get a person to respond to you.

Honestly Grinding Gear Games has had the best CS I've ever received, though it's not really an 'MMO', since it's essentially room-based and content can't be enjoyed by more than 8~ people at once.

>>385502464
what mmo?

>>385502967
MapleStory

They proved microtransactions worked so well that WoW even conceded and added that pony or whateverthe fuck eventually, now most of their model revolves around it in all of their games and it's the standard for every MMO.

Honestly once they added 2X EXP and people bought it in MapleStory, MMORPGs died as a genre.

>>385503015
>Honestly once they added 2X EXP and people bought it in MapleStory, MMORPGs died as a genre.

nah what killed mmos was the lack of competition
sure we have dozens of mmos out right now but everyone holds shit like WoW up as a paragon of what an mmo should be leaving very little room for original formulas that feel unique so after the honeymoon period a new mmo gets for the first year everyone tends to leave and head for the next one or goes back to WoW
and the cycle seems to continue ad infinitum
thankfully WoW seems to finally be dying
i cant imagine it will last more than 3-5 more years

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Why look forwards when you can look backwards?

>>385490928
Ive also backed crowfall because i thought itll be a pure open world pvp game like shadowbane was. And because some of the original devs were there i was excited as fucking fuck.

Turns out its some instanced open world lobby based who knows what shit. I still have no idea what it is. I took my money back as soon as i could.
Unity engine in a open world game also screams for fucking performance

>>385503184
Man WoW dying would be weird. I can't imagine them completely killing it off until it stops making money, which likely isn't anytime soon.

>>385503415
I played crowfall a few times when the servers were up
it didnt feel very great
you gather supplies such as wood, stone, ect like you would in a survival game such as rust, ARK, minecraft and you can then make them into gear and equipment
i played for a total of about 4 hours
and it felt like a cartoony rust knock off
i would be running around gathering resources when someone who had been playing longer than me would come up and kill me forcing me to start over
the combat didnt feel very great when i played either it felt like it went on way too long
and the game itself didnt look to good either it definitely felt like it was still in development the graphics need a good polishing i would even say WoW looks better than it does
and the performance was pretty ass aswell

>>385503184
In a way it certainly has, but you can see WoWfags ruining other MMOs constantly, because they believe that an MMO is worth pouring money into before it shows it's use, or that things non-cosmetic can't ruin a game, or that things like $60+Subscription+Expansion cost is actually okay.

Even if WoW dies they'll just wait a few years and remake it in VR and the process continues, which is unfortunate because VR would ideally be the one place that would shift MMOs enough to maybe shake up what we currently have, but that's far off.

MTX definitely has killed many many MMOs though, and it never would have happened if MS didn't prove that you could get away with MTX that strongly impacts the game, and have the players literally back them up on it.

WoW-Killers were a big problem for MMOs, but I think most people understood it was a meme. MMOs like WoW or RO have easily double their subscription-base playing on pServers.

>>385503415
Those guys like most of these kickstarter MMOs are really good at spinning a tale, they're selling you what you want, until you get it. Kickstarter is terrible, I've backed 4(Catacomb Kids, A Hat In Time, FORCED) games ever, and regretted 2. One because it's still not released, one because it was so shit I forgot what it was.

>>385487403

I think gw2 gets a new addon so that one

>>385503684
the survival hunger meter has no businesses in an mmo

I backed Albion Online back in 2014 so i know a thing or two about looking forward to something and being disappointed.

The only MMO that would be worthwhile is the one that never comes out, perfect doesnt exist and we will never satisfied.

Haven't tried Albion yet. But from what I've heard it's good.

Aside from that, Runescape and Eve. Usually at the same time.

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>>385503798
Why is every race except CHARRRR so incredibly fucking insufferable?

>>385503654
I honestly wonder what they would move on to
i mean WoW has what? one more expansion left in it? maybe 2 or 3 if they really pull some shit out of their ass like traveling to a different planet entirely or something like that? different dimension?
i wonder if when they've run out of expansion ideas if they'll put it on life-support and deliver on legacy servers of some kind, or if they'll just pull the plug in ordser to grab up the fanbase and shove them on to some new replacement
Starcraft online? a Diablo themed mmo? maybe they'll just toss everything they have into expanding on Overwatch since it has been such a cash cow
>>385503790
WoWfags ruin every mmo ive been in, in one way or another
i have literally never played an mmo since WoW came out that hasnt had hundreds of people spamming all chat saying
"the way this game handles X is dumb, i like it a lot better in WoW"
or honestly i find the anti-WoW guys more annoying
"haha isnt this game great guys? its so much better than WoW, ive been playing WoW since the alpha and friends, ive done every single raid and have every single achievement so you know i was really good at it! but i really like this game much better and will never ever go back to WoW!"

>>385503798
>gw2
I'll wait two expansions to recoup the losses from what they did with their business model when it went F2P.

>>385503810
Yeah, that's pure cancer.

>>385493669
A shame to hear that. I got into TSW about 2 years ago so the quests are still sort of fresh in my mind. The only reason I would have to come back is for the gameplay, which didn't seem to go anywhere positive. It also sucks to realize not much carries over.

>>385489784
>The combat is probably still the worst part of it, but they fixed it.

No they didn't. It's still the same garbage, but now you can't even make proper builds.

What's the best mmo right now if I wanna gank and be ganked.

>>385505307
Yo
You ever heard of this game called
Eve?

>>385504225
I never enjoyed WoW in the slightest, I tried but it just wasn't fun at all. The graphics were annoyingly ugly to me, and the gameplay itself was mediocre.
This was back when they had that free-friend weekend or what have you, someone challenged me to try it because "I had to try it to call it shit", I did, it was still shit.

Can't stand them. FFXI was another one, that game was fucking terrible, tried a Monk at the start, not like there were any sklils or points or anything to put in and it took me like 11 minutes to kill one of those starter mobs, I thought I must have missed something somewhere so I asked my cousin who wanted me to try it, and she said no that was just standard early game. Uninstalled, still got the box in my closet somewhere.

I hear FFXIV changed that around and is 'fun', but I also hear from people it's much morelike WoW, considering I neither liked FFXI nor WoW I don't pay attention to it, at all.

I just want something like Haven n Hearth /Ultima Online/Wurm mixed together, HnH took way way too much time commitment, but damn is it a fine game, the other two have their own redeeming aspects too although most of them cross over between each other.

Honestly CoE would have brought a lot of that forward, before it went pay2shit and it looked like they started copping out on some of the 'minigame' idea they had stated originally pre-KS for crafting and such.

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>>385487403
I've never really gotten into MMOs, but Wild West Online is tempting me a bit. I'm a sucker for western stuff since Bonanza was the only show I liked as a kid on the PAX channel

>>385505898
No.
Don't.
I will fuck you.

>>385505898
They have the cleanest pre-order policy for refunds that I've seen in a game in months, that said the pre-order benefits yell p2w and unfortunately what happens in those cases isthat peolpe that didn't pre-order whale-or-not, leave, and people who aren't going to spend money often whether they spend at all or not, leave.

Leaving you with a husk of a game, this impacts games that rely on other players as content the most.

Of course this process can take months(Some have flopped so heavy it's insane), or years (in which case you'll get your money's worth)

From a short youtube clip I've seen the inventory space and gun parts might be a bit of a strong incentive, but in the end it's up to you, there are no really GOOD MMOs to actually suggest in place of it anyway.

>>385490928
>NUMEROUS threads of people claiming centaurs needed to be removed because they were to reminiscent of nazis
Been lurking those forums since the kickstarter and I can't remember any threads like that. Not saying I don't believe you, since I've seen some threads that are equally as cancerous.
I'm looking forward to the game, but I wish the community would take more of a backseat, because a majority of the suggestions are dumb.

>>385506810
keep going through the comment chain, i included a screenshot of one of the commenters, that was the image i originally meant to post

>>385505898
Just watch westworld instead because that game is a scam

>>385506881
oh shit, I missed that. not even surprised. makes me think of the old threads where people were butthurt because the original assassin screenshot/concept had her wearing heels.

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>>385507196
i thought the forum censorship was a massive shitshow
when people tried pointing out that the centaurs were based on romans it inevitably lead to roman historical discussion in the off-threads and when people brought up the rape of the sabine the same people who bitched about the heels bitched about people saying "rape" on the internet and got the word and several others banned and filtered with the word "gank"
which honestly i found very funny

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>>385489152
DDON english release is literally never

>>385487403
Looking forward to Season 3 update of DDON, comes out in like 2 weeks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2paZYijNW7g

I want a good MMORPG because I'm an autist who can't have fun with single player games, but I don't have any friends.

What are the best choices and why? Would you play with me? No gay shit.

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>>385509645
>>385509515
since for most content you can just bring pawns with you (you need them for crafting purposes anyway and you can have a mix of pawns and players in a party)

>>385509762
But I don't want to connect to japan.

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>>385509814
that's too bad

>>385509890
It's not that I don't really want help, I'm very autistic and can't deal with too high latency.

>>385510316
it's a good thing DDON is almost entirely client side then

>>385510602
Fuck you
*breaks game box*
I'll play age of conan instead faggot thanks for nothing holy shit and bloody hell, he's being kind and helpful.

(Sorry anon, I really don't want to connect to japan, I want eu servers)

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>>385489370
>>385489726

GW2 will always be seen as a joke, imagine shilling so poorly you are forced having to work for a shit company like Neo-Anet because no other company wants to hire you.

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>>385487403
pretty much just this, i only like anime mmo's

>>385489146
Is Albion Online doing good?
Well, this is just like that but even more nice
MMO is dying genre and "hardcore PvP sandbox" are just asking for crashing

>>385487403
None of them.

MMOs need to be big, and they're all made by small studios these days and will never garner the necessary audience to be good. They also still don't try to be MMOs, they just create a shitty singleplayer component, iterate it a thousand times, and call it "massive", but that's not how it works.

They just copy a broken model and don't try anything daring. The genre won't evolve until a new big title tries something new, but no one wants to take risks. Actually, considering most MMOs are more than profitable on their first month of release, why would anyone try to do more than that? It's still money that drives this, and they only make safe bets.

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>>385487403
No.
We have BDO already.

>PC has extremely small HD due to no funds at time of making(250 GB)
>other games leave me with 50 free GBs
>random MMO is fucking enormous(ex. Revelation Online and Tera are 30 GB each)
fuck

>Literally nobody can or will cite numbers on XIV
>The only thing available is the unofficial census which people deny is real
>Adamantly claim XIV is in the millions and surpasses WoW just because they have 2 big servers with players in cities

>>385512703
Who in the world claims XIV has more players than WoW? The servers couldn't even handle that, they struggle to maintain the probably about 700k peak active users.

Are there any mmo's left that i can run in my shitty laptop with no 3D support? I need a fix while i'm stuck in campus.

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>>385487403
i was looking forward to dark millenium

>>385487403
After Revelation Online I gave up on MMOs, even if the perfect one were to be released tomorrow no one would play it and it would die by itself.
The only popular ones and the ones who will survives are the ones where you can ERP.

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Dofus 3, Moonlight Blade, Alchemia Story, curious about Maplestory 2 and Bless Online' "A Realm Rebuild" project.
Nothing that will be released this year, unfortunately.

>>385511390
This shit will never be released.