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are you bitchy motherfuckers happy now? you got your fucking way now shut the fuck up jesus christ you act like women
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>delay stream by 5 minutes
>cover up the map
Streamers are the dumbest, most entitled cunts in the world
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>>385482949
if you kill me in a video game you're LITERALLY destroying my life, streaming is my job.
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>>385482949
>>385483051
the streamers are whiny bitchy cunts too the whole lot of ya need to sod off there is a reason i dont play multiplayer anymore
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>>385482949
>delay by 5 mins
Not long enough, everyone camps in this game, especially streamers.
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>>385482695

Why is OP so mad about this? I don't get it. This is a positive change.
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>>385483129
that's why you treat them like trash and ruin their game

Twitch fags get the dip
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If they had just crushed a can for Jay owen this all wouldn't have happened.
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>>385482949
>delay stream by 5 minutes
This would be a terrible idea. A lot of money for streamers comes from autists donating in order to talk directly to the streamer. If the conversation has a 5 minute delay it's sure as fuck going to dissuade them from doing it.
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>>385483051
Nice bait tard bard here is your you.
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>>385482949
This.
*LOUD OBNOXIOUS ALARM GOES OFF* THANKS FOR THE SUB BUDDY WELCOME TO THE FAGGOT NIGGER CLUB ENJOY THE STREAM! PLEASE REMEMBER TO DONATE IT REALLY HELPS ME OUT!
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How do you even end up on the same server as streamer #1248 when theres like 400k people playing at once?! And how do you know he's on your server? by the route the plane is flying in the beginning?
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>>385482695
what is this supposed to be? people killing streamers and streamers complaining they are being killed?
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>>385483684
>people kill streamer
>streamer report them
>people get banned for griefing
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>>385483684
someone killed streamer
streamer complained he was stream sniping
pubg admins ban him even though streamer was lying
internet goes into uproar
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>>385483684
Stream sniping means watching a stream and then tracking down their exact location to kill them as a way to grief and it's specifically prohibited by the TOS, but now whenever they get killed by anyone they just have their stream goons mass report the person to get them autobanned, and it works.
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Streamers should be sniped IRL
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>>385483684
pretty much, and the streamer says the only way they got killed was the person watching their stream to see where they were. it's like a modern faggier version of screen watching.
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>>385483861
It'll happen eventually
A lot of them seem to be fucking off to Korea though
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lol streamcucks btfo
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>>385483816
>Broadcast your exact location to literally every single person on the internet
>Someone uses this to kill you
>WOW HOW DID HE KNOW I WAS THERE THIS IS BULLSHIT

Modern gamers.
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Sounds like some inexperienced streamers, bet the flash their IP on screen as well
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>>385483947
North Korea?
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>>385483891
>screen watching
It's screen peeking, you whore. The "ee" in both of them makes it sound better.
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Is there any streamer that does NOT do this >>385483491 ?

I was trying to watch some streams to see if the game was decent, but all of them did that nigger shit. It's fucking annoying.
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>Play hide and seek
>Livestream your position while playing hide and seek
>OMG HOW THE FUCK DID YOU FIND ME!

Streamers should have just been laughed out of this one.
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Hopefully Blizzard bans Kripp next so we never have to hear endless whining about RNG and sniping from the Hearthstone streamers.
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>>385484037
it's called screen hacking you dumb fuck
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I love how important steamers think they are. As if that point wasn't hammered down enough when they cried about twitch's affiliate program.
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>>385482695
how are they going to prove it was a streamsnipe, and not someone happening to have been killed by someone that was close
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>>385484109
It's called Screenie Meenie Watch and Leanie you cunts.
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>>385484108
how the fuck do you stream snipe in a card game?
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>>385483816
>>385483891
>waaah you can't kill me or I'll report for le stream sniping

entitled bitch
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>>385484139
That's kinda the problem with the system, you don't need to prove it.
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>>385483445
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST IT'S JUST A JOKE NOT EVERY SINGLE POST IS BAIT YOU FUCKING MORONG STOP HFTGJI OMFSO ITEUI HFPOVK IYN PARAIONAOITJ FOVER PFEVGERYTHING GOD IF CUKGIN HATE OY
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>>385484187
you can see what cards the person has in their hand and plan against it
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>>385483891
>screen watching
I think you mean "screen peeking"
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What the fuck is "stream sniping"
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Just have an option that disables the minimap, problem solved
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>>385484039
Vinny from Vinesauce. But he's already a sad excuse of a person so it doesn't make much of a difference.
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>>385484278
modern day screen hacking
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>>385484320
Or put your faggy stream chat box thing over the minimap.
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how was the uproar with the streamer fanbase? or let me guess people still defend their e-celebs to death?
I don't get it, these guys would rob a bank just to please their streamers.
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>>385484350
>hacking

how so?
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>>385484241
Why broadcast your deck then?
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Good, devs giving special treatment to streamers is horse shit
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>>385484241
oh ya that does make sense

way to fix that phone comapnion app that shows your hand instead of on the screen
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>>385484278
People watch streamers, qeue up when they do, get matched with them, then watch the stream to see where they are and kill them, or just recognize a streamer in the player list and go to their stream, find them and kill them.

It's mostly just streamers being babies about getting killed and blaming lots of deaths on people doing an overly complicated cheating method.
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>>385484278
this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5clae-24Tio
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>tfw game is so shamelessly a twitch device that it gives the power to streamers to ban anyone on baseless assumptions

And you faggots defend this trash.
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>>385484370

That too, probably better than my idea. Either that or slap a face-cam of yourself over it
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>>385484187
>opponent places monster to avoid Meteor BTFOs
>but he waited 10 seconds to do so

OMG FUCKING STREAM SNIPERS RUINING THE GAME THIS IS WHY BLIZZARD NEEDS TO LISTEN TO ME AND MY SHITLIST.
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>>385484039
northernlion is p cool about stuff like that hell he doesn't even take donations just subs
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>kill dumbass who think he's hiding
>"WOW HOW DID HE KNOW I WAS THERE?!?!?!"
>get banned for stream sniping

Fantastic system
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>streamers should be
No.
Stop.
Just.
Ugh...
Really?
I mean....
Really?!
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>>385483051
BAZINGA BAZINGA BAZINGA
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>>385483445
There's a difference between bait and satire, anon. Unless you're retarded/autistic and cannot recognize sarcasm.
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>>385484397
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Screen%20Hacking
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>>385484039
Videogamecarnage

>gives any sub/donation money to charity
>small community with regulars (everyone is nice)
>talks to chat and knows mostly everyone
>doesnt ban anyone and has no mods/says you can say whatever you want
>pretty much thinks most streamers/ecelebs are shit
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>>385484578
are all streamers literal DSP tier now? have we fallen this far?
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>>385484464
>you will never stream snipe in dayz with moot and /dzg/ again
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>>385484235
This
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>>385483428
Underrated
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Are they any group worse than twitch streamers?
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>>385484235

This is the post of a broken anon

I'm sorry, anon
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>>385484518
yeah, i'm sure it's "p cool" when you give your mom's money all to him, you fucking dweeb
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>>385484704
Twitch donaters.
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>meme games complain
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>>385483861
I would say your dick should be sniped IRL but it's way too small.
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>>385484730
Nah, streamers no longer get to play innocent. They blatantly know a majority of their income is from lonely kids looking for any sort of affirmation.
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why does summit get 30k viewers?

he is decent at PUBG i guess but not the greatest and he yells every 5 minutes
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Friendly reminder that streamers are not your friends and will never be, they prey on the lonely people.
I know that you are a smart anon and never EVER fell for this shit by donating.
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>>385482695
>>385484658
>stream sniping
It's indeed DayZ faggotry all over again
Lovely!
Few things are more fun than to harass e-attention-whores.
*whale sounds*
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>>385484867
>he yells every 5 minutes

here's why

need someone to entertain the braindead masses
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>>385484912
No they actually are my friends.
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>>385484039
Every other small streamer.
Here's a bit of advice: If you entered a stream with more than 50 viewers. Expect obnoxious alarms and prompts. If you want a chiller environment, start looking at the smaller guys.
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>>385484912
this imagine is one of the funniest things i've ever seen on 4chan
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>>385484656
Most streamers don't actually like games as much as they put on. It's no longer that fun thing they did as a kid, it's a tedious job and they have to constantly stay relevant. Them getting upset is proof they find no satisfaction in playing, they just want to win and be done with it.
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>>385485029
>start looking at the smaller guys.

I only care about big guys.
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>>385485091
when gaming becomes a 2nd job is when you stop enjoying it.
You can upload stuff to youtube/stream and keep it chill but once you hit that monetize button is all over for you.
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>>385484814
Average twitchkiddie response. Absolutely pathetic.
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>>385485091
It's kinda funny catching a streamer randomly at a point where you can tell they're fucking sick of this shit and just want a break.

They'll start talking slowly about things, tab around a bit, interact with chat for a few, tell a story and do anything to avoid playing.
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>>385484912
Savage.
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>>385485187
Cry more sir small dick.
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>>385485110
Stop setting up old as fuck tired memes.
>Someone says "[size] guy"
>LOUD OBNOXIOUS ALARM GOES OFF
>THANKS FOR THE ASSIST BUDDY. WELCOME TO THE BIG GUY FOR YOU CLUB, ENJOY THE THREAD. PLEASE REMEMBER TO CHECK EM IT REALLY HELPS ME OUT!
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>>385484912
How in god's cock do you have FOUR autistic children? I have to wonder if they are self diagnosed.
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>>385485423
It's probably the asperger meme
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>>385483245
He's probably a stupid streamer.
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>>385485029
>click on smaller streamer
>"Hi, [anon]"
>close browser
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>>385484912
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>>385483491
>FAGGOT NIGGER CLUB
Fuck off /pol
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>>385485492
Literally every kid ever has "aspergers" because every kid is just stupid and weird.
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>>385484464
>He keeps following me server to server
>I should just keep switching servers

Just switch games for like an hour, or hide the stream when you change servers.
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>>385485423
what are even the odds?
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>>385485238
I like when they try a change of pace, seem happy for a bit, and then quickly get sick of whatever new trash they're playing as they tank half their viewers. I've been watching this one guy try and fail to become a variety streamer over and over again out of morbid curiosity, he's gone completely off the deep end.

The only pace change I've seen that has actually been fun is Reckful going full autism and travelling to Japan. He's met a lot of fun people along the way, I'm going to feel bad for him when it all crashes down and he winds up back in his apartment streaming Hearthstone.
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>>385485590
>my kid is hyperactive, restless and doesn't listen to me all the time
>HE GOT THE 'TISM FROM THE VIDYA
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>>385483785
>>385483795
>>385483816
even if someone actually went to someones stream to track them down and kill them, how is that in anyway any kind of offense?
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>>385483816

The mere notion of trying to make rules regarding stream sniping in this sort of game, let alone trying to make it against ToS is absolutely mind-boggling.

You can't under no fucking circumstances make killing streamers an offense.

I don't even care for this open world early access autism simulator.
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>>385485564
It rarely happens that someone calls you out of lurking. It happens on occasion. But for the vast majority of cases, people let you lurk if you want.
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>>385485748
Because it makes the streamer sad and stop playing, and we all know that devs make literally all of their money on a game from Twitch streamers.
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>>385485683
Man, fuck Reckful so hard. Never before has someone had so many self-inflicted issues, with the means to solve them, with many people trying to support him destroy himself.
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>>385485385
get this hothead out of here
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>>385484916
>Few things are more fun than to harass e-attention-whores.
Hey
hey
ehy

DO IT FAGGOT
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So I've been digging a bit into this, and the devs are apparently banning people right and left on the behalf of fucking streamers.

The fuck. Indies should be hanged.
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>>385483947
>korea
You mean the fucking place that's one bad video game news story away from completely banning gaming? That's one way to get rid of these fags I guess
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>>385483816
>their stream goons
how does this work? I don't understand how do many people end up worshiping some random guys.
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>>385482695
This literally started with streamers crying about stream sniping, get fucked faggot.
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>>385485423
Docs will jump on any early symptoms just to appease big pharma and dope your kid up. Gullible parents trust every word outta doc's mouth so they just keep doing it.
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>>385483443
you can't have your cake...
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>>385485578
Calm down Tyrone its just a jape.
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>>385485029
>join a relatively small stream
>see he acknowledges people that follow him
>follow the guy
>"oh hey I hate people of co-"
>"not funny dude"
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>>385484464
>BAZINGA, BAZINGA, BAZING...

Holy fuck my sides
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>>385483428
NOICE.
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[WHALE SOUNDS AND PORNOGRAPHY NOISES]
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>>385485930
They're placating their biggest advertisers while they prep their crate update.

I wonder if some of the big streamers are gonna demand some shekels soon or face a public update regarding PUBG going full scum crate.
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>>385486020
Then shove it up your butt.
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>>385486053
Your name is "I hate people of color"?
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>>385485930
the game is made by the same people that made tera online
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>>385483443
>muh chat interaction

Literally the only thing they acknowledge is people giving them money. Chat itself does not exist to these people, only TwichAlert donations.
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>>385485972
Well they actually go there for IRL streams (since they hate playing games anyway). Korea has a lot of public wi-fi and good cell coverage so they can stream right from their phone with a good connection.
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>we live in a time where it is a bannable offense for winning a multiplayer game
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>>385485976
One of my oldest friends made friends with a small time streamer and now whenever the streamer gets online my friend ditches us and goes to play with the streamer. Doesn't even invite us with him, even if we are playing the same game. One small fraction of a percent of internet relevancy and it gets into his head I guess.

I had half a mind to start stream sniping this guy and my friend every chance I get but then I learned that I'd get banned for it because streamers are pussies.
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>>385484912
holy shit, that image is too good.
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>>385484651
What the fuck idiot wrote that? It's called "screen watching." How the blue fuck does "hacking" play into it at all?
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>>385486208
It was until twitch decided that was a no-no.
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>>385485972
>You mean the fucking place that's one bad video game news story away from completely banning gaming?

What bad press have video games gotten in the ROK recently? Explain please.
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>>385486053
>"oh hey I hate people of co-"
>Afraid to say nigger on 4chan of all places.
ok mr.anon
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>>385483491
>streamer does this
Its okay, I like the game shes playing and think shes cu-
>turns out shes a lesbian
FUCK
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>>385483051
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>>385486221

>Tera

About to tear a hole in my pants
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>>385486343
It's just being used as a scapegoat by the government for the ills of a sick society.

>muh cult shaman is my top government advisor
>oh wait no that's a bad thing to say to people
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>>385484464
>at the end of the day I know I'm super beautiful
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>>385484235
I feel you man
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>>385486460
Then do something about your farting.
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>>385486386
You know you can find all of the videos and images of naked women you could want on the Internet for free, right? She'll only ever acknowledge you for your money.
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>>385486273
The worst part is this shit game was shilled hardcore here for the past few months.
Now all the die hard fanboys seem to be absent that the game has gone to shit.
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>>385486460
>TERA 2 never
I just want to see glorious high rez Elin thighs you gook fucks
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>>385482949
It's even dumber when you consider most of them barely even interact with their chat so it would hardly make a difference. And even if you do get "stream sniped" who gives a shit? You're streaming for entertainment, it's not like you're competing in an esport.

>make dosh off of playing video games
>can do it any time you want and have no boss
>only caveat is "don't be an asshole"
>streamers can't even do that
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>>385486257
I can't think of anything more dull than watching a stream of "Little America: Freakish plastic automaton edition". The country has no culture, nothing interesting about it.

I'd much rather watch a stream from China, but you'd probably get arrested by the secret police. It's a shame that all the places that would be the most cool to see are dangerous or have dogshit internet, maybe if IRL takes off we'll start getting people risking it for views.
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I have to side with PUBG's decision on this one. Just because you got away with something for a while, that doesn't mean that you're entitled to it.

You had some fun fucking with streamers. And then eventually the system learns how to deal with that exploit. Don't cry about it.
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>>385484912
I donate and lurk
>how does your logic work?

>>385484867
i enjoy summit because he's a comedian to me; he countertrolls his trollish audience
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>people that watch those streams are nothing but wallets to streamers
>most streamers pretty much admit it
>people still loyal to them
I just don't get it, I also have no friends and I still don't feel like resorting to internet friends like streamers.
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>PUBG
how are certain streamers able to play one game forever? like that one grimmz guy or whatever literally only plays PUBG for hours on stream. If had to play the same game everyday, especially one as shallow as pubg, I would blow my brains out on stream
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>>385486654
>elin
fuck off faggot
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>>385486752
itadakimasu for this tasty bait, anon
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>>385486752
cry
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>>385486791
I don't remember who it is but someone here linked a let's play channel that was just Binding of Isaac for nearly 1000 videos.
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>>385486764
>I donate
Alright anon, I take your bait cause I refuse to believe anyone that's not braindead will do it and I'm assuming you are a smart man.
Please explain yourself, why you do it.
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>>385486887
Isn't that just the bald fag?
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>>385486816
Sorry senpai the faggot here seems to be yourself
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>>385486791
it's literally a job, some streamers have to take vacations and shit.
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>>385485623
Or she could have just crushed a can for Jay Owen, instead of being a jew.
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>>385486752
what? the problem was the streamer said the guy was stream sniping with no proof and literally didnt even file a complain but the devs just banned him for it. THen after posting proof that he was not stream sniping, they banned him from the discord
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>>385486752

>1 crate has been added to your PUBG account
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>>385482949
Don't worry, they'll kill themselves soon enough.
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>>385486965
fuck off faggot
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>>385486816
gay
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>the only way to know if you're in the same game as a "streamer" is to kill them and have their names pop up on the kill chat.
>Streamers still cry about stream sniping even though you cannot even know that your in the same game as another person until you kill them.
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>>385482695
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>>385487123
fuck off faggot
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>>385486847
>>385486861
>>385487037
You know you're making a good point, when the only responses are "bait" and "cry" and "shill". You have no logical response, so you resorted to snark and insults.

>>385487032
Well I didn't know about all that. The person filing the complaint should provide proof.
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>>385487194
I'm sorry you are a homosexual
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>>385483598
Never done this but I can imagine a simple strat:
>wait for them to join a game and join at the same time
>in the lobby, try to find anything distinct at all (person jumping on a specific table, person with an afro crawling around a specific place, etc.)
Are you in that lobby? If so, play and follow them. If not, exit, leave the stream running for a bit, repeat. You could even have multiple streams going so you frequently have someone going into a lobby so you can keep trying. It does seem very unlikely, though. You would also have to be at least vaguely close in rank to them, which you wouldn't necessarily know.
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>>385487146
You can tell if you're in the same game as a streamer by comparing their lobby to yours and then also the plane path.
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>>385487146
They are so arrogant that they believe A) That everyone in the world who plays the game knows them and watches them and B)That they are so fucking good that the only way someone could beat them is to cheat
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>>385486791
Because they have no marketable skills, nothing to fall back on. What streamers don't seem to understand is that, eventually, the gravy train will run out. As Twitch gets more popular, actual entertainers will hop on board and suck up most of the viewer base by actually being entertaining, instead of mildly autistic.

It turns into a job, and it's one they can't complain about because they're JUST playing games, which is something most people do anyway. If you take a break, you lose viewers, if you cut a stream short, there go your donations, a lot of these people are very bad with money and spend their new wealth frivolously, leading to a self-defeating cycle of playing games just to make enough money for rent.
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how is this a reliable way to make money? more and more people are quitting their job to become streamers and shit.
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>>385482949
>don't watch their stream

Damn that was fucking hard.
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>>385486752
>>385482695
There was literally zero evidence people getting banned were actually stream sniping. Entitled manchildren streamers just can't handle getting dunked on in a video game so they cry and bitch after every death. Imagine how shitty your life must be to be that much of a faggot despite making that much money.
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>>385486965
>>385486654
>>385486460
elin players were cancer
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>>385487254
I thought about that as well, but most streams have a delay of like 30seconds to one minute and even if they don't have a delay, you almost get instantly into a lobby. it must be very very hard
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>>385487065
wow that's depressing
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>>385484464

>Ive been dealing with you online trolls since I was 12


What the fuck is she doing to get so much harassment? She claims its just because shes 'Beautiful and Popular' but people more popular then her never get this kind of harassment. Why is she telling all her fans her address and phone number? Other streamers use a post office box when asking for fan mail/gifts .
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>>385487229
You shouldn't talk about things you don't know about.
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>>385486642
>She'll only ever acknowledge you for your money.

So a regular woman then?
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>>385487320
It's a way to make money for established people since there's a ridiculous culture around twitch.

There's nothing in it for new people unless they get supremely lucky.

It's just a shitty bitcoin alternative.
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>>385485930
really? sauce?
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>>385482695
t. Degenerate streamer
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>>385487320
It isn't. The top 1% make all of the money, everyone else flounders at 2 views for X amount of time before they give up.
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>>385486791
>If had to play the same game everyday, especially one as shallow as pubg, I would blow my brains out on stream
Exactly why anybody claiming streamers/YouTubers are living the dream is underaged or has no discernible skills. The top 1% who make a killing could probably live off it for the rest of their lives if they're smart with their money, but most people who get into streaming will have a nice employment gap and nothing to show for it when the cow's come home for milking. I also think Twitch, like YouTube, is going to find ways to pay streamers less and reap more of the rewards themselves, and I can't wait for that to happen.
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>>385482695
Dumb streamer
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>>385487293
>eventually, the gravy train will run out.
Wrong. Do you know how desperate for friendship people who watch streamers are?
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>>385487445
I thought I knew all that needed to be known.
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>>385487424
>>385487065
Threadly reminder summit still pays his ex-wife exorbitant amounts of cash each month to be his """manager""" and respond to three emails a week so she can fuck Tyrone on his dime. Literal cuck.
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if you dont want people to stream snipe you, then dont stream nigga!

easy as that!
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>>385487572
>I also think Twitch, like YouTube, is going to find ways to pay streamers less and reap more of the rewards themselves, and I can't wait for that to happen.
Twitch has to play a balancing act because of donation apps. If they take too much money, streamers stop promoting subscriptions.
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>>385487406
Yeah, it seems absurd to try to actively do. Not worth banning over simply because it's such a slim shot. Most likely if it ever actually happened, it was because someone was playing on one monitor and watching a stream on another and happened to notice it was the same game (same things happening, kill feed, map, etc.). That's a slight unfair advantage but it's still such a rare event that's ultimately irrelevant and likely no one's intentional fault.
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>>385483816
Modern gaming disgusts me
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>>385487694
Or even then take minimal steps to stop a majority of harassment.

>the best poker streamer on Twitch plays with a 10 minute delay and can carry on non-stop commentary and chat interactions for 8 hours while playing tournament level poker
>BLUHFJHBk MUH SHOOTAN AND TWITCH DONATIONS
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>>385486479
Some sad cucks told her she's beautiful at some point, they were desperate and didn't know better, but she actually believed them because she's dumb. Every woman ever. Even the 1/10 ones
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>>385487702
Yeah, I think most of the huge streamers would get around it with donations Twitch gets no cut of. But they obviously want a bigger piece of the pie, and rightfully so. They introduced bits and cheers to do that, I'm sure they'll find ways in the future to get more out of their users. Either way I'll laugh when streamers are bootybothered like YouTubers.
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>>385487293
I'm all for cautious optimism when it comes to streaming and the idea that it's not going to last forever. But this shit is on TV and in bars now so I don't really see what you're basing this assumption on aside from just hating people making money.
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You are missing the point here, streamers barely play for the fun, I doubt they enjoy video games.
A lot of people joke about /v/ not liking video games but the real people that hate playing games are streamers.
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>>385484464
top kek
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>>385483891
Not that screen peaking even helps unless someone pulled out their lawn chair and decided to snipe in the same place for several minutes.

I only say that because I did it as a kid,
and so did my friends. Only people who are shit at vidya complain about screen peeking or stream sniping
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>>385487320
>most streamers are around 20-35 years of age
>their "job" literally has no benefits (no insurance, healthcare, dental, etc.)
>realize that you can't stream games forever
>unless they were saving some of their donations and sponsorship money towards retirement they are basically fucked for life
>they quit streaming without any job experience they can put on a resume
it's kinda like youtubers, you have to be extremely popular and successful if you want to live of e-celeb money forever
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>>385482949
>most entiled cunts in the world
Don't forget, they deserve to be paid for playing video games.
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>>385484464
Best part of this is she could have ended it by not showing her server browser everytime she joined a new one.
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>>385485623
>or hide the stream when you change servers
Back in early 2014/late 2013 you were able to find which DayZ server based on a persons steam ID.
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>>385488049
I was always able to figure out where people were on the map by glancing at their screen. It was a pretty substantial advantage.
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>>385487986
Part of the problem I have with streamers is that they are taking the money directly from the audience to pocket. Youtubers get their money through advertising deals.

Having your 12 year old audience watching ads is way less scummy than taking their money directly through acting like you're their friend for subbing/donating.

The grownups with their own money can do as they like, however dumb I think it is, but there's a large portion of kids getting fleeced and taken advantage of.
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>>385488143
>their "job" literally has no benefits (no insurance, healthcare, dental, etc.)
This is what boggles my mind. You are taking such a risk having this as your """job""" and you have absolutely no security. The benefits you listed, a consistent salary, going without those things is not worth it to any sane and stable adult. Can't wait for more millennials to bankrupt their futures for funny twitch emotes.
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>>385483051
Do you have any idea how hard it is to stream? You have to actually get up, set the stream up, and then actually play the game. Do you have any idea how stressful that is? We should all just donate to the streamers for their hard work desu
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>>385488143
Actually shit like youtube/streaming goes fantastic on a resume because it shows resourcefulness to an employer. It's essentially what door-to-door sales jobs did for people applying for sales/management positions. The jobs were stupid and grueling but had skills that translated well. If people can survive financially doing something that they logically shouldn't be able to survive financially it shows a certain tenacity and ability to overcome the odds. Not to mention it's practically the equivalent to a Ph.D. for the sake of getting a job within any marketing circle, especially "social media engineering". Whatever the fuck that is.

You have to remember that they're convincing fuckloads of people to consume content which is essentially marketing at it's core.
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What in the name of fuck is stream sniping?
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>>385482949
fpwp

never type on this forum again
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>>385484039
I think it's funny watching Aris stream tekken. Trying to focus or give a gracious lesson to someone, and some faggot donates with a dumb question or joke.
He just seems annoyed and is like "hey thanks for the money, but god damn, will you keep it down?"
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>>385488029
I'm sure streaming will last forever, but the idea that all of these sperg gamers are going to be supported until they die seems very unlikely. If you're not gaining new viewers faster than you're losing old ones, your channel will eventually die.

I feel like streaming is very much a young man's game right now, as you hit your mid 30s it becomes much harder to maintain that "big brother" atmosphere for the 12 year olds with mommy's credit card in hand.
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>>385488364
It is not particularly difficult to stream. It is difficult to stream well.
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>>385482695
>stream sniping
Can't these faggots take this onboard as a challenge?
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>>385488489
Except despite the fact that most viewers of streams are aged 14-20, most donations/subs come from cows. Cows are typically older, 25-40 with huge amounts of disposable income.
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>>385488338
But the upshot is, you need literally no work experience, you get to play video games all day and you never have to leave your house.
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>>385488387
I agree to some extent, but what ad agency or business is going to take somebody with no degree or real employment for years because they have a big following on Twitch and managed to balance reading donations with playing a video game? Maybe in some sort of sponsorship role for gaming related products, sure, but I highly doubt any respectable businesses need to scrape the bottom of the barrel.
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>>385488234
Not really. You could tell roughly where they were, but unless you wanted to take your eyes off of your screen, which would be extremely likely to get you killed, you couldn't tell their exact position. Narrowing it down to a general area isn't helpful enough.
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>>385488459
They all do that. Get a donation and play it up for the camera so more people donate and hope to get their turn being talked to by Senpai.
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>>385488489
>I feel like streaming is very much a young man's game right now

The majority of 'big' streamers are in their late 20s to mid 30s, so this is by no means the case. I'm sure most that donate or subscribe are in the same age range because there are some very large donations for the 'big' streamers, also a 12 year old with mommy's credit card isn't going to be watching another 12 year old.
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Twitch is the new Youtube, full with White Knights, communitys that hate each others, big streamers that don't do shit and have big ego hardly bringing quality content for the amount of money/viewers they have, the platform hardly helps any new streamer to gather viewers, a bunch of whores that only read donations from a bunch of idiots that don't go to fkin chaturbate and spend their money on tokens to actually see the pussy, the site is going to shit hopefull amazon will save it.
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>>385488614
I'm not if I'd count the latter two points as an upshot but you do you my man. Personally I'd much rather keep my hobby my hobby instead of my job and all the stresses that come with it.
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>>385488720
You have a very narrow view on how ad agencies operate. Experience trumps education 100% of the time in every single field that's ever existed. Marketing positions are no different. I doubt you'll be swayed from your opinion because you hate streamers for some reason.
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>>385486687
Streamers and their ilk are some of the most entitled and worst of society. All you have to do it play video games for a few hours a day(if even that) and you'll make enough money to live well off. There are people who dig ditches and scrub floors for a living that would KILL for that opportunity, these fuckers don't know how good they have it until they drive away a chunk of their fans from sperging out and the rent comes due.
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>>385483428
who remembers THIS old meme?

RIP stgggs
RIP Gorons
RIP all those commandos of chaos
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>>385483051
>No one got the reference

God, I hate nu/v/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdWj3bbKDIs
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>>385488847
Hate is a strong word, I'm just giving my opinion on the topic. I also think you're overestimating how the adult world would react to somebody coming in with no degree, and the experience of being on stream is nothing like the experience of most business settings. But by all means, enlighten me.
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>>385488736
I think you are just bad at it. Worked for me.
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>>385488783
>bunch of idiots that don't go to fkin chaturbate and spend their money on tokens to actually see the pussy

Even that's fucking dumb. Why not just get a hooker and actually get to fuck the damn pussy? Giving money to girls on the internet is down there with cuckoldry as one of the most pathetic things a man can do.
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>>385488783
on the other hand youtube became better.
People that wanted to make money fucked off to twitch due to how kike infested is the monetize option.
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>>385486939
>1. I don't own the game
>2. I don't want to own the game
>3. People watch wrestling. People watch speedrunners. Why can't I watch a competitive game?
>4. I appreciate their commentary and I would pay $5 a month just to be sure they're not going to just disappear in the next few years
>5. It's far more entertaining than watching /v/ shitpost all day long
>6. I don't own a television or a console - why do I need to?
>7. None of these reasons don't work for you, or any of you, and I respect that
>8. It's 10 dollars, it's not 100 dollars in a single day like other rich oil barons or dropship millionaires
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I'm thinking of streaming while playing vidya so I would dissuade myself from taking a break every half hour or so because of an intense need to fap
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>>385485348
You're what, 13? 14? You need to get laid kid. Although the fact that you 1. are on /v/ and 2. finds watching boring dumbasses playing games fun means that you're an ugly, short, acne-riddled nerd with no friends and gets laughed at for being a weirdo school-shooter type dweeb. Fucking pathetic, go kill yourself.
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>>385484516
Kripp's such a fucking bitch about sniping that he'll blame literally anything on it.
>turn 6 in arena
>kripp playing mage
>opponent plays around obvious flamestrike like any sane human being would
>WOW HE'S FUCKING SNIPING ME MAN
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>>385489063
It only ever worked against snipers. I remember playing tons of Medal of Honor, Golden Eye, Metroid Prime 2, and LAN Return to Castle Wolfenstein multiplayer with friends, and it had a very low success rate.

Of all strategies to help you win games against better players that get talked about, it's second to last, only behind bringing them to orgasm.
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>>385489035
>stgggs
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>>385489067
I know, fucking fags can't go out to some street in their city to get a hooker but instead they just throw cash to some random E-Girls,
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>>385487320
A moderately popular streamer with, say, 400 subscribers is making 2k a month. That's more than I make.
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>>385489397
>he can't give his buddy a brojob while screen peeking and still win
Now I know you're bad.
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>>385484235
Did he died?
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>>385485423
>ride cock carousel until your mid 30's
>finally decide to "settle down"
>start shitting out autistic kids in your 40's, because your body is 2 decades past the expiration date
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>>385488783
little billy is only 14, his parents put a lock on his ipad, so twitch whores are the closest thing to porn
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>>385486310

It's screen cheating you retard.
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>>385489071
Big Youtubers are switching, only big channels don't do that and youtube is now filled with vine/instagram models and other good content creators.
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>>385484464
HOLY SHIT I COULD RECOGNIZE THE PRONSTARS FROM THEIR VOICE
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>>385487229
>He was serious.
What a fag.
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>>385489678
sauce on the blow my face?
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>>385486963
>>385486887
NorthernLion? He's apparently one of the best players in the world at BoI. Besides, it's a great game that's addicting as fuck. I know, because I beat Afterbirth+ already and started a second profile.

My brother loves watching the guy. Isaac is apparently not even 1/4th of his content.
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>>385489079
on top of that, look who's literally streaming PUBG RIGHT NOW
I kept trying to link it but 4chan thinks it's spam
You gonna tell me to go jump on ethan's dick instead of the 2 streamers i chose?
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>>385483445
This is bait. You cannot be that retarded.
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>>385484124

blame the devs who keep treating them like royalty.
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>>385483051
Poe's Law: The Post
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>>385489738
Gee, I wonder why 4chan doesn't want people spamming links to their stream
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Why are so many posts here just insane generalisations? It immediately makes it obvious that you have no clue what you're talking about.

Are people just trying to vent frustration? Making extreme claims for (you)'s? What a load of counter-productive negativity.
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>>385489848
explain the ESA thread then
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>>385489716
someone in the youtube comments said sasha grey
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>>385489079
Don't equate wrestling with playing video games you can't break your fucking back if you botch a flip off the top of a turn corner onto a guy who is laying on a table playing video games.
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>>385489851
Nice generalizations, here's your (you).
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>>385489558
I am not very skilled in sexually pleasing other people, but I am skilled at video games.
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>>385489035
>we didn't circle jerk around ancient memes
>waah where are my upboats?!?!?!

You have to go back.
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>>385483491
Vinny and Joel from vinesauce are the only ones I know that don't do this.
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>>385489851
>Making extreme claims for (you)'s?
Yeah man. This is really the only reason.
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>>385489905
>what is rage quit youtube poop compilations
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>>385489608
The only thing they do is put some cleavage, and show some leg while the chat spam THICCCCC even when the girl is flat af, or Korean E-Girl streamers who are just tables and dance because their english is too broken to bait people and make them donate.
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>>385484464
>BLAST MY FUCKING FACE
everytime
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>stream snipe
>get banned
>say i wasn't stream sniping
>people believe me
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>>385489974
YES I AGREE FELLOW 4CHANNER ANYONE THAT MOCKS OUR BASED STREAMERS TRUELY IS AN EVIL TRULL AND HATER
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developers are relying more and more on streamers to help market their game
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>>385489738
whats reddits obsession with h3h3?
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>>385482695
People other than 15 year old boys actually play this?
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>>385486382
Anon, if nigger was in the name it wouldn't even get as far as what he posted.
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>>385490068
the guy that got banned though posted pretty good proof that he wasn't stream sniping- his friend that he was playing with was killed by the streamer so he knew where the streamer was
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>>385490068
You need to provide the proof that they were stream sniping. This is the same problem with SWATting.

Not that stream sniping is wrong in the first place.
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>playing early access survival rougelike garbage
you all deserve it
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>>385483443
Oh yes, streamers need to acknowledge DerpyBroGamerxD and his 20 dollar donation off his mother's credit card. Welcome to the BroNATION!
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>>385490068
Even if he did "stream snipe", why would this be a bannable offense?

If you broadcast your game to the world, you have to deal with the potential of someone using it against you.

unless you're trolling, which you most likely are, in which case fuck off
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>>385489678
give the fucking sauce already i want to go to bed
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>>385484330
I just to be able to meet vinny and help him learn to love again and be his boyfriend
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>>385487460
Yes but you will never fuck a streamer no matter how much you donate.
Why not "donate" money to a woman who will fuck you for it?
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>>385488459
Aris streams give me a mixed feeling. I feel so fucking bad for the donator when they try to make some le ebin joke and then gets shut down for shit humor and a "thanks anyway for donating" but it's also a little satisfying because they sorta deserve to be told how unfunny they are and how they need to stop.
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>>385486460
When TERA first came out I used to intentionally kill Elin and only Elin players regardless of infamy out of disgust. I booted it up recently and was horrified to see ELIN ONLY CLASSES and 95% of the playerbase Elin with no PvP allowed so I couldn't even kill them. I fucking hate you pedofags so goddamn much.
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>>385489738
>Complaining about not being able to shill your shitty stream.
>Trying to shill your shitty stream.
Ok be fucking honest with me because I know you faggots haven't been here more than a year. Are you organizing these raids in discord? IRC? fucking leddit? Just leave us be goddammit.
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>>385489035
>2014
>nu/v/
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>>385482695
Wtf is a stream sniping
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>>385484912
I only really watch MoonMoon at this point, he's okay, no facecam and mocks his chat more than anything else
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>>385490410
no, this board is ours now, kid
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>>385489851
(you)
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I want to go back in time before streamers were a thing

I got yelled at in OW for picking some streamers main. He jumped on the mic and was like "Dude, I'm [NAME]. Let me play Junkrat"

I had no idea who the fuck he was
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>>385490353

I love it.
>Someone donates 10 bucks
>Ignores it until he gets to a slow point where he can thank people
>If theres a question and its diverting his attention. "Keep it down. Dont talk to me"


It just wouldnt be Arin if he didnt casually shit on people.
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>>385490141
Things really have gone to shit haven't they?
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>watch singsing stream dota2
>he gets sniped

hilarious as fuck
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>>385490228
Twitch is actually just a giant advertising platformi now. The types of idiots who watch livestreams want to play whatever game their favorite streamer is playing. But if the streamer keeps getting killed, they don't look like they're having as much fun. If the streamer isn't having fun, it makes the game look bad. If the game looks bad less people will want to buy it.

tl;dr
Killing streamers hurts sales, it's basically like stealing money straight out of the dev's pocket.
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>>385490410
I'll throw you a bone
if you follow the replies, you'd see that I was trying to prove a point with me willing to pay $5 for entertainment that isn't h3h3, TBFP, or speedrunners, not trying to shill but if you wanna keep going like that, that's on you
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>>385489716
>>385490243
sasha grey
it's a lesbian scene with some other girls
she's asking angela stone to squirt on her
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>>385485803
It's also kind of cheating. I guess since you guys never grew up playing Golden Eye you don't get it.
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>>385490619
Shut the fuck up, holy shit
No wonder why you resort to fake friendships
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>>385483443
Even camwhores interact more than streamers.
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>>385486479
what is the context of this pic?
is it a W3 dev being confused about a fucking awards show thing?
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>>385483051
>streaming is my job
lmao. enjoy your section 8 housing apartment full of roaches until you hit 65 where you will be put in an old folks home and abused, ignored, only able to order from the old folks home's company magazine for only certain items like slippers, towels, etc. since social security takes in account the money you make according employment history.

The moment you dumb fucks try to say you made more than $12k a year streaming the government is going to flag you and ask how much you've made doing that for how many years and get you on back taxes owed according to that money.

Enjoy elderly poverty
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>>385488998
>tfw u have a starring role in three different stgggs videos but only end up being credited on a completely different video where you don't even appear

ty frendo
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>>385490896
>Fake friendships
It's entertainment, stupid
>i never expected anyone like that to reply
>i never expected you to reply either but you seem to like it
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>>385485748
Because it's a long term thing. Any half decent streamer will have thousands of viewers. One person decides to snipe in the first round, then another in the second. From the player's perspective it's a one time thing for some laughs with friends but from the point of view of the streamer it's people actively hunting you down non-stop.

I can understand how that would grind you down when you literally play the same game for eight, ten, or twelve hours each and every day.
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>>385490971
Yeah, they said the wrong game for one of the awards. I think they named a game from the completely wrong category.
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>>385486965
superior taste anon
never let anyone tell you otherwise
especially this redditor >>385487105 >>385486816
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>>385490978
>this projection
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>stream you playing a rooty shooty game for an audience of like 5 people
>cry about how anyone who shoots you is a STREAM SNIPER
>continue to have a smug shit-entitled belief you're the best shootan plaeyr ever and it's only RUSSIAN HACKERS STREAM SNIPING MEEEE
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>>385490547
hahaha

holy shit, i would tell him to fuck off or get better hand/eye coord!
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>>385490609

Only a matter of time before some devs try to make the game piss easy for streamers.

>2019
>PUBG 2 releases
>Game improves many of the flaws the game currently has
>Having a blast
>Another round begins
>xStreamerGirl2002x has joined!
>All other player characters have speed cut by 50% and are forced into prone
>Streamer deploys with a fully customized AR and SMG
>All other players glow brightly to make it easier to find them
>Somehow manage to crawl over to a 1911 and load it up
>Crawl into a shed in the middle of the zone
>Hear streamer laughing as she wipes the whole server
>Pop her in the face 3 times and manage to kill her
>Immediately get permabanned
>Game uninstalls itself
>PC shorts out
>Get a text from PUBGs lawyers
>Im being sued for damaging their sales
>Get more texts from unknown numbers, all threatening to kill me
>Game also doxxed me on the streamers channel


The future looks bright
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>Somebody sniper me, this must mean they were watching my stream

Really?

Fucking excuses
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>>385490978
>he actually thinks social security will exist when he hits 65
Holy shit, you're retarded.
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>>385490609
HAHAHAHA YOU'RE A RETARD

t. Successful streamer

no I wont tell you fat losers who I am
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>>385491283
looks like he struck a nerve
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hello im guy who has never played pubg or watched a stream of it but ive always wondered why cant you put like a long delay on the stream for it whats stopping the streamers from doing that
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>>385491172
heh

fuck, i need to watch this trainwreck more often
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>>385489313
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>>385489618
it's obviously screen moonwalk
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>>385491256
when people elect an even more left president in 4 years we'll probably have basic income by the time we're 65.
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>>385491346
Because you lose a valuable way to deflect from your failure to play well and ""rage"" fuels viewers.

They aren't trying to win, they're trying to get paid from their audience.
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>>385490579
does valve ban stream snipers like PUBG?
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>>385482695
They gonna datamine ur shit anyway, why not write a program that checks for a verified twitch streamer account. Then when someone accuses of stream sniping, they check the use to see if they had twitch running.
This would have to be something the game devs would have to put in.
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>>385491256
Social Security was pretty much the only major government program running a surplus until Congress began dipping into the fund in recent years.
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>>385491516
If they aren't trying to win then why does it matter if they get stream sniped?
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>>385483129
>letting streamers ruin vidya for you

You probably didn't care about multiplayer games to begin with
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>>385483051
>>385483428
>>385488364
Quality posts.
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>>385491346
same idea as to why people watch America's Got Talent or Big Brother -- they're paid in reactions
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>>385488364
>Do you have any idea how hard it is to stream? You have to actually get up, set the stream up, and then actually play the game.

>Do you have any idea how stressful that is?
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>>385491346
Nothing, streamers have control over the delay on their stream. But that would make it harder for him to do le funny things with his chat for ebin donations, so instead we'll just ban legit players so as to not inconvenience glorious streamer

>customers get banned and treated like second class citizens by devs
>Streamers, many of which play on free copies, are treated as a protected class
Streamers get to have their cake and eat it too.
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easy solution, streamer only servers, where you can watch every person stream on that server.
same power to everyone :p
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>>385491886
why the fuck do you think PUBG is so popular? it's because of streamers, without them it would have been a Dayz levels of playerbase
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>>385486275
>I had half a mind to start stream sniping this guy and my friend every chance I get but then I learned that I'd get banned for it because streamers are pussies.

But you seem to have yet to realize that you'd be acting like a jealous ex-girlfriend.
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>>385492084
While true, that's a shitty reason to ban paying customers on only the suspicion of stream sniping.
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>>385491516
>>385491629
>>385491886
oh yeah i forgot about that. streamers are aids. cheers
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>>385492084
desu if you think streamers are entitled to special treatment by the game moderators just because they wilfully chose to act as free marketing you're completely retarded. If anything streamers own part of their livelihood to PUBG, without it they would have only a fraction of their current viewership
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People that don't understand why people don't like stream snipers were those annoying screen cheaters kids.
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>>385492276
gotta be thinking like the entertainment industry, the Kim Kardashians
>they're walking brands
>they're attracted to YOUR product
>both the "walking brand" and its followers get attracted to the game
>both get benefits regardless
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>>385489729
northernlion is pretty great desu
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>>385492418
Fuck off Tyler I'm not going to wander around a huge ass map looking for your faggot ass just because you have poor multitasking capabilities.
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>>385492084
What about the game that makes /v/ so butthurt? Is there a reason other than it's popular?
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>>385492690
that's about it, really.
it's just a few mechanics put together and /v/ doesn't like popularity. video game development fails are what actually feeds /v/
>go look at majority of the other PUBG threads, it's always has hints of jealousy cause "money is sent to Bluehole"
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>>385483816
This is DSP levels of bitching right here.
>Telling people exactly where you are in an online game by streaming it
>Said game is PVP
>Get killed
>"WOOOOOW! WHAT THE FUCK? DID YOU SEE THAT? FUCKING PEOPLE WHO KNOW EXACLTY WHERE I AM ARE KILLING ME"
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>>385493197
>Same thing happens in EVE
>Streamers get told to stop being a bitch
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>>385486053
>join a relatively small stream
>see he acknowledges people that follow him
>follow the guy
>"oh hey I hate people of colombia"
>"me too"
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>>385484912
>pew Im going to do my homework come back in a bit.
>Im back.
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>>385490381
>hates pedos
>goes on a pedo website
why
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>>385482695
Pewdiepie was here

Stay awesome sisters
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>IM NOT A CHEATER I SWEAR STREAMER ARE IDIOT
AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAA
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I like how the fact that it was bullshit in the first place is being downplayed.
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>>385494108
sorry for your autism
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>>385494238
Don't apologize, he's a shill.
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>>385484235
You don't understand, we're on /v/, and vidya is serious business.
Take your jokes back to funnyjunk.
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>>385489035
>Woman calling men ugly thinking it bothers them like it would a woman
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>>385494238
>CHEATING AT VIDEO GAME
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA
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>>385494692
Stream sniping isn't cheating
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>>385490696
I did. Nobody ever cared about looking at another person's screen because it sped up the gameplay. Don't have to spend time wandering looking for the other people, prevented people from just hiding/camping, etc.
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>>385492193
>>385492297
I never said it was a good thing, it's just how things are.
And people like summit, lirik and shit don't need pubg, but at this point games like pubg needs them
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>>385487065
I saw summit1g's downfall after he got burnt out on PUBG the first time around a couple months and it wasn't pretty. The guy is clearly miserable after putting all his eggs into the streaming basket for the past several years and doesn't want to be doing it anymore. He can't stick with any game too long because he's not having fun, has to play PUBG because it's still popular and where all the views are, is always texting in the middle of streams, is schmoozing on dumb grill streamers that are leading him on for exposure because he's lonely while is ex-wife and her dad (now his paid employees) are the only human interaction he gets, barely ever leaves the house because those two bring him all his food, paid cash down for a car as expensive as a house in a quarter-life crisis and barely ever uses it, is now always going tirades about random shit and getting into spats with people on Twitter.

Streaming was a mistake. Even if the viewership and revenue holds up while you're top dog, you're not going to be happy when a hobby becomes an 80 hour a week job and it no longer acts as escapism.
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>>385491242
The game is shit anyway why do you care?
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>>385495252
some people from some CS championship got unbanned recently, so he's tempted to go back into CS
>whether or not that will stick, i'm not sure
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>>385494478
Men are just as insecure about their appearances as women are, they just don't complain about it as much.
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>>385490978
>enjoy your section 8 housing apartment full of roaches until you hit 65

Most streamers invest in real estate or do stocks. If you invest your shekels right you never have to work again.
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>>385495423
Nobody gets more defensive and shitty than a man who's just starting to go bald and hasn't accepted it yet.
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>>385489035
thank god I will never be autistic enough to want to harass some twitch streamer
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>people who put their twitch or youtube as their steam name
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>>385495584
what the

ok fuck it i want off this plane of existence
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>>385495665
>See this all the time in Friday the 13th
>Intentionally screw them over as much as possible and make sure they get killed
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>>385495665
>do this
>complain when people stream snipe you
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>>385495584
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>>385495665
>>385495701
>guy with twitch as name ragequits
>mfw
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>>385495584
jesus christ wtf
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>>385495681
Yes reddit please leave god yes
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>>385484037
assonance
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>>385495826
>Playing dark souls
>Some dude invades with the name "stream pvp build"
>Almost kill him three times
>He ends up killing me, thanks to a "that kid" tier stunlock build
>Get mad for a second
>Realize that invading is already a dick move, but streaming it on top of that is just absolute faggotry
>Laugh it off and go back to fucking with people
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>>385489520
>A moderately popular streamer with, say, 400 subscribers is making 2k a month

I don't think this is true.
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>>385483051
Really effective bait here, God DAMN
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>>385487065
Summit is probably the worst streamer on the site.
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>>385496079
If it's a big tittied girl it's possible. Guys don't make that though.
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>>385482695
>Play battle royale
>Broadcast location
I think it's a fair tactic considering what kind of game it is
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>>385485976
Normalfags getting easy internet access happened.
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streamers deserve to get swatted
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>>385484464
is there more of this?
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>>385496595
streamer fanboys deserve to be swatted
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>>385487065
>Finally getting out of the house haha :D
Jesus christ you'd think with the amount of money he has he would go out and eat food at nice places or go and have some unique life experiences in the real world but no he just sits at his computer, orders takeaway food and watches anime 24/7.
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>>385495584
IT IS TIME FOR ME TO DIE
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>>385486473
You say that as if there's a country that doesn't have cultist advisers in the top levels.
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>>385495252
>stop streaming so much
>play games/do things you want to do on stream
Wow so hard
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>>385486791
How are people able to be a wageslave doing the exact same thing every day for 50 years?
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>>385486691
EXBC are pretty entertaining and AbusivePillow can be sometimes too. Both IRL streamers in Korea
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>>385495252
That all sounds like his fucking fault to be honest, eh? I don't know how you fuck up "video games for a living" to half the point of the shit you just described without some malicious divine intervention.
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>>385482695
This is fucking stupid, if they're not making changes that affect you whether you stream or not who gives a shit?
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>>385484464
*distant whale sounds*
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>>385493343
Bless those devs. Mind you, they straight encourage that kind of behavior because *wow look at that* it's a video game where you get to do things that you couldn't or wouldn't do in the real world. As long as you're not doing actually illegal things (money laundering, hiring hitmen, etc) you're good to go
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>>385486386
"lesbian"
most cases of women being "lesbians" are just shy bisexual women who are intimidated by masculinity
true lesbians are quite rare
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>>385497394
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>>385497146
I watched EXBC for all of about 10 minutes, I can't fathom how they have over a thousand viewers.
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>>385489593
>2 decades
are you implying waiting until your 30s to have children is bad?
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>>385495423
more or less.
I work at a counselling firm and there are a ridiculous amount of guys and girls who are insecure.
Both genders worry about appearance, if they're socially active enough, if people really like them, etc.
The guys seem more concerned about how they are socially and only concerned about appearance if they are really under average.
The girls all think they are ugly even if they are at least 7s.
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>>385497660
Because when they're actually doing shit they're funny, 70% of the stream is shit because it's either them eating or walking/taking public transport to wherever they're going
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>>385483861
Honestly I too find it fucking disgusting how many people sell a fake personality while cheapening their hobbies and spouting memes like a fucking tool because they literally have no other value to society than to be a online personality and furthermore how many retards pay them to do it.
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>>385498018
>The girls all think they are ugly even if they are at least 7s.

Seems to be a ploy to just get showered in more compliments to be honest for self-validation.

I've seen smoking hot women thinking they're ugly and it just baffles me.
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>>385484039
SandyRavage is pretty cool and down to earth.
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>>385497709
It is if you're a woman
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>>385489058
> I also think you're overestimating how the adult world would react to
Nigga you have no clue what you're talking about.
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>>385497709
Women have a tendency to birth kids with autism if they wait too long to have a kid. Their bodies practically warn them of this with their "clocks" too
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>>385497709
Having children at all is bad.

>making something you have to invest a bunch of time and money into
>could still be a fuck up no matter how well you raise it
>is essentially a parasite for the first 15 years or so

Seriously, why do it in this day and age, why not just use all that extra time and money to follow your own dreams in life with your partner?
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>>385490213
You leave Crosseyed Grey out of this.
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>>385498141
these are people paying over $170 for 50 minutes of counselling that have written this stuff thinking only their counselor will read it.
Many of them have high levels of anxiety.
And as I said the guys mention this stuff too.

I think we just assume people are in control of their lives if they look like it.
Almost everyone I see walk in looks "in control" even if they're dealing with a bad divorce, poor self-image, dead family member, gay issues, suffering financial stress, you name it.
You could not guess what each person would have as a problem when they walk in, all these anxious or depressed people look bright and confident and cheery at face value.
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>>385496079
400 x $5 a month is 2k.

There's a guy I started watching recently, Bajo. He used to be a games reviewer in Australia before the show got canned. He's been streaming about 6 months, has about 500-600 subs (some are higher than $5 a month) and gets buttloads of donations. He's easily getting 4k a month from this as well as his fulltime job.
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so is this current gen of streamers, twitch ones specifically, that fucking dumb to set up stream with a delay and use say, hexchat or mIRC as their chat client?
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>>385498320
Women are basically ruled by their biological clocks. You can't stop hormones, and woman who says she doesn't want kids is lying.
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>>385498320
I think a lot of people hope to only have to raise their kids for 15-20 years until they start becoming more independent, so if they had their kids even at 30 it could still leave them with 20 years to do things together. Some people shouldn't have children but it's wrong to say it's bad for everyone. I don't want to have kids but it still makes me a little happy when I see someone saying their kid is going to school to be a scientist or doctor or something.
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>>385496746
>implying 99% of /v/ wouldn't do the same if they could
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>>385498505
A bunch of countries are running into shit because of unemployment (too many qualified people for too little jobs).

I'm in Australia and I see graduates complaining about it all the time, isn't difficult to find the same issues elsewhere too.
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>tfw you're friend is temp banned for "stream sniping"
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>>385498713
your*
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Why don't streamers just get good?
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>>385485578
>if you say nigger you're from /pol/
wew laddy
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>>385498170
>>385498293
this is so fucked.
you need to date someone for at least 8 or more years before you commit to marrying them or else risk losing everything to a divorce.
so if you don't meet the person you're going to spend the rest of your life with in highschool or your first year in college you're basically doomed to have disabled kids or live alone until you die.
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>>385498831
>before you commit to marrying them or else risk losing everything to a divorce.

The American divorce laws are so fucked up, like holy fuck
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>>385484039
Kripp.

Sure he streams a childrens card game, but he has no music, no stream alerts, does a brief read through of subscribers once every 4 hours or so that lasts less than a minute and then just bitches about his bad rng and overflows with salt
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>>385498948
He also cures your insomnia, what a great deal.
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>>385483245
a butthurt streamer that thinks they are entitled to the game catering to them
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The thing with rules against streamsniping is that it's incredibly hard to prove, thus requires a whole fucking lot of dev effort, and only benefits a tiny portion of the playerbase in the end
Harrassment rules already cover it when someone is truly dedicated to killing you, following you in every new game, beelining to your position and so on
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>>385485029
>tfw my friend gets 4 viewers on average
>still has follow and donation alerts
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>>385499106
Not surprising. They probably think PU owes them something for the "free advertisement". Doesn't help that PU sympathizes with these people because muh nasty internet trolls
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>>385498371
Twitch takes at minimum half of that $5 donation though. I know some of the big streamers get a larger cut of the sub money but if you have 400 subs you're probably not at that level yet.

And this is before uncle sam comes knocking for his cut of the pie.
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>>385484039
MikePanoots
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>>385499276
even if you half the amount after taxes, twitch cuts, and paypal cut, your still getting 1k just for playing video games and being a personality.

Not a bad deal.
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>>385484464
>ZINGA BAZINGA BAZINGA
every fucking time
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this is what we defeated the nazis and the communists for.
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>>385484330
>sad excuse of a person

Woah wait, what happened to Vinny? I've been watching some of his newer streams and he seems fine.
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>>385499352
Depends on how much you're actually streaming, though. 40 hours a week?`Rather go work for minimum wage
Playing video games gets less enjoyable if you have to do it all the time
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>The guy that cried about streamsniping is a 30 year old with naruto posters in his room
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>>385490609
Honestly some of the best moments of PUGB streams have been from wacky/rediculous deaths.

If streamers weren't such babies about dying in a timed, 100 player deathmatch (usually when they're in a team as well) then they really shouldn't be streaming.
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>>385499459
How do you not understand by now that streamers try to cater to 10 year olds+ and above?

F R I E N D

S I M U L A T O R
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>>385488364
Setting up a stream is pretty easy, as long as you have the netspeed and decent rig to encode video.

Having an attractive personality, giving viewers constant attention and having the will to consistently stream what's popular or what your viewers want is the hard part.
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>>385482695
What's stream sniping?
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>>385493846
it used to be a website for many people and not just pedos
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>>385491221
>What is a delay.
>Being so trash you devote a second monitor to my 10k viewer stream because you're so shit at video games you couldn't possibly beat me in a fair fight.
>Would most likely still lose even with an advantage because you're a nobody.
>>
I was on the fence about this one, now I'm pretty much not buying it. Not only because this is not really something you can prove, but because 1, fuck streamers, and 2 if you're streaming and give you position away, that's your fucking issue and shouldn't be anyone elses.
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>>385484912
i give my prime sub to guys with like 50 ish views and then talk to talk about street fighter
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>>385489593
This
Mom had me at 41 and I have Klinefelters Syndrome and non-meme autism
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>>385499442
depends on the person honestly. Streaming as a job would probably be too stressful for myself, but I can easily play 40 hours worth of games in a week, and I'm not even a NEET.
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>>385485778
>>385485564

why not just say hi back, you can always just leave after
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>>385499459
Summit1G is based though
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>>385499763
It also depends on the viewerbase, look at all those Hearthstone players that hate the game, but can't really cease playing them because that's what their viewers want
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>>385484464
can she not mute that player or disable voice chat?
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>>385498320
because whitey will slowly go extinct and david platinumberg will import millions of shitskins to replace you
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>>385489593
>>385499732
>Blaming the mom
>Not the dad
Dad's are 50% of a baby
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>>385495584
i'd shove that toe up my ass
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>>385487628
Every newfag in a nutshell
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>>385483428
should have listened to THE LAW as well
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>>385499846
I hate hearthstone but my Gf likes playing it MTG is superior in every way but I still sometimes watch Savjz, he's a pretty cool dude
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>>385499432
He's a drumpftard
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>>385482695
they didn't promise any changes whatsoever though?...in fact they gave a totally horrible response

I won't ever spend any money on PUBG because of how the team has been. I've already gotten my $30 worth from the game for sure though
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>>385489520
base subscription split is 50% so they're making 1k for that month. Subscriptions don't autorenew, you have to come in and re-subscribe every month which means that subscriber number fluctuates heavily.
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>>385495004
Considering most of these streamers drop games after, at most, 2 months, this means lots of games just end up husks where the streamers feast on the game and then leave a dead carcass no one wants.
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>>385499914
I occasionally watch Trump if I'm very bored, he has a soothing voice and doesn't do the whacky personality thing
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>>385499873
Older sperm can contribute to more chance at autistic babies but not nearly as much as with old eggs. That's just how it is
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>>385488489
It will die off eventually. TV was replaced by YouTube, YouTube Let's Plays are being replaced by twitch and in 5-10 years there will be the next thing
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Wait, people are upset that streamers have the audacity to complain about stream sniping? In a game where having or not having your location known is by far the largest thing between life and death?

I know super popular games tend to have pathetic communities, but some people on this thread still manage to astound me.
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Stream snipers deserve their bans, they're harming the company and the streamer. Streamers make their livelihood streaming games and keeping their followers watching, having some faggot with no life stream sniping you is not a joke, you are affect these people's ability to pay their bills.
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>>385499846
if your income is based of doing something you hate, regardless if its streaming or not, then you deserve what you get in life.

Seriously, life is too short to be doing something you hate.
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>>385491242
YOU VIOLATED THE NAP
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>>385500115
quality bait, well done.
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>>385500115
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>>385500110
It's more that streamers can accuse of stream sniping even if there's no proof of it.
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>>385500110
It's exactly the same as complaining about 'lag', I'm sure it happens sometimes, but a majority of the cases are people getting ass ravaged that they were killed and need to blame anything except them being outplayed to protect their ego.
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>>385500115
>YOU ARE LITERALLY TAKING FOOD FROM MY MOUTH WHEN YOU DO THIS
>IT IS NO DIFFERENT FROM WALKING INTO A BAKERY, TAKING A LOAF OF BREAD, AND LEAVING WITHOUT PAYING FOR IT
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>>385500110

stream sniping is bad for the devs because if streamers arent happy they stop playing and if they stop playing you don't get free advertising the guy advertising their game for free to play their game on twitch wont be as entertaining as usual and he might bad mouth their game, thus costing them sales.
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>>385483051
>>385482949
fucking nice
>>
I wish streamers and let's players would just stop existing altogether.
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>>385500306
Wouldn't need free advertising if your game was good now would it?
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>>385500256
>>385500226
>>385500214
You know you're making a good point, when the only responses are "bait" and "cry" and "shill". You have no logical response, so you resorted to snark and insults.
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>>385500342
instead of wishing for something that won't ever happen, think of ways to improve the scene
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>>385500356
The game is extremely popular so it is good. What about the game that makes /v/ so butthurt?
it's just a few mechanics put together and /v/ doesn't like popularity. video game development fails are what actually feeds /v/
go look at majority of the other PUBG threads, it's always has hints of jealousy cause "money is sent to Bluehole"
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>>385500365
>point
>copy/pasta from reddit
ohyou.png
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>>385500365
I'm not one of the guys that responded to you, but that 100% reads like you're being sarcastic.
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>>385500450
>appeal to popularity
wew laddie
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>>385500450
>Popular = Good

Now I know for sure that you're retarded
I bet you think overwatch is good because its popular too
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>>385496025
>stunlock build
>Dark Souls

nigga what. Shit that didn't happen for 500 Alex.
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>>385489975
they just constantly talk shit about their donaters instead. vinny is literal scum at times
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>>385500482
>>385500515
It wouldn't be popular if it wasn't good
/v/ hates popular games. Simple as that. Why should the world bow to your minority opinions because YOU don't like whats happening to YOUR hobby?

how about you get off your ass and do something productive and be the change you want to see.
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>>385484912
>watching some streamer
>he's okay, watched him some time before
>thanks viewers every time someone subscribes
>gets more and more hyped he's never gotten this many subscribers
>starts to talk about how he needs everybody to subscribe because he's talking with twitch about their rewards plan and becoming a premium streamer
>this is a guy who fucking sucks at the game and has like 150 viewers
>stream is now completely about him talking about how many subscribers he needs before twitch even acknowledges him
>starts dancing and screaming YEAH SLAM THAT SUBSCRIBE BUTTON
What is wrong with these people
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>>385499643
>>385488502
that's not really accurate.
like it's hard in a sense, but it's more about Sacrificing your Soul to the dark gods.

why do you think they're so vulnerable and egotistical?
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"stream sniping" bans!
microtransactions!

what's next, hurt feefees bans?
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>>385482695
>friday the 13th sarted banning people for cursing
>barely anyone plays it now
>now pubg follows the path
I wonder how long its left
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>>385500763
Yeah one spergo on the internet is gonna change a multi billion dollar industry with the power of friendship and willpower

Are you high or something
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>>385482695
>Name your game after your username
Cringe
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>>385491614
Hello?
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>>385489035
Both sides sound insufferable
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>>385500763
>It wouldn't be popular if it wasn't good
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>>385501040
So what is so bad about it then fag lag.
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>>385500905
>hurt feefees bans
Didn't that already happen over a twitter fight with the dev?
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https://youtu.be/JwfNASlfkbA
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>>385501040
That Adam Sandler comparison is absolutely ridiculous. There are people that enjoy his movies, and if they are making money, that's a successful movie. Just because you don't like it does not negate that. How can you communicate with people outside of the internet?

/v/ is filled with people that think their opinion is gospel. That's why you should take a break with /v/ and actually talk with people outside.
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>>385501167
While some might find Adam Sandler funny most people agree that he's not that funny, b-tier at best.
Even my mom calls him "the guy who screams alot"
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>>385501167
Thats just a financial success tho
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>>385487065
Sounds like an attention whore.
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>>385501147
I've never played the game. I'm just some passerby telling you that's a really stupid thing to say. Popular = good is not true, and neither is niche = good. Obviously "good" has some subjectivity to it but that doesn't mean someone can't analyze the nitty gritty of a game or movie and go into depth on what works and doesn't work.

>>385501167
>That Adam Sandler comparison is absolutely ridiculous.
I don't really understand what this sentence means when juxtaposed with the rest of your post. Is Adam Sandler some special case?

>There are people that enjoy his movies, and if they are making money, that's a successful movie.
Nobody is arguing with that though. We're not talking about successful though, we're talking about "good". Specifically, the assertion that popular = good. That's just way too black & white of a statement to be true. I mean hell, when you look back at the "best" movies, most of them weren't explosively popular at the time.

>How can you communicate with people outside of the internet?
By talking to them? C'mon dude, are you really trying to tell me Adam Sandler's movies are good? I'm not saying anything controversial here. I don't think even Adam Sandler thinks they're good. But they still sell, and that's my point.
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>>385491161
i havent played PUBG so i dont know exactly how it works but isnt pvp the main point of the game? regardless of whether or not your only hunting down one person specifically, isnt the point of the game to kill others until your the last one standing?
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>>385483598
One strategy is to just wait for a name you recognize as a streamer to pop up in the kill feed, then go watch them.
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>>385499948
Memes aside, but is that true? If that was the case, I'll be more surprised at the fact that he talked something about politics.
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Why don't streamers just hide the game when they're inbetween queuing and wait for a random time before joining a new round
Makes it nigh impossible for snipers to queue into the same game as they do
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>>385495584
i think the human race has run its course
>>
I dont care for unfinished games that demand money.
>>
It's safe to assume anyone defending the game is a shill or a streamer right?
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>>385501796
because most streamers are mouthbreathing retards looking for attention.
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>>385501765
I'm interested in knowing if that's true too, but
>sad excuse of a person
What an overreaction on their part.
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>>385500087
IIRC old sperm only significantly contributes to schizophrenia. And that is, like, 70+ year old sperm.

30 yo+ eggs do significantly impact autism, but even that pales in comparison to its impact on full-on retardation.
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>>385495584
I don't know what to say about this.
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>>385500921
>M rated game
>curse bans
The absolute state of the industry.
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>>385483785
random player kills streamer
doesn't know the person is a streamer
get banned for "griefing" in a game where your supposed to kill people
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>>385500412
I always try to think and find ways where it seems more better.
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>>385495584
I've been forced to use this image on /v/ 3 times now. Frankly once is too much.
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>>385501897
>it goes down at 46 specifically
Well that's odd. So 13 is the peak year, huh?
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>>385501897
>per 10,000 births
That is paltry. Barely a drop in the bucket.
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>>385501525
>>385501404
>>385501369
Have you not been paying attention? I'm not defending or criticizing PUBG you nimrods. You can criticize something all you want, but when you think your opinion is more than an opinion, you get lauged at.

People not enjoying his movies do not make them bad movies. Financial success and popularity are objective whereas what you think of a movie or a game isn't.

You can't admit that you're opinions are just that. You just ranted about how wrong people are for not thinking like you and liking popular media.
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>>385501938
>This is a Christian server
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>>385483816
Sounds like it wouldn't be hard to mobilize a whole group of autists gang bang a streamer at the same time. They can try to ban each player but the autists can keep flowing in.
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This is going to become a something similar to McCarthyism shit if it doesn't stop or doesn't get ignored.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygLWi1OFJhQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuC_YLbHUXQ
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>>385502057
>I'm not defending or criticizing PUBG you nimrods.
Neither am I. The fact that we're talking about PUBG right now means nothing. I've never played it and have absolutely no opinion on it. What I'm arguing, once again, is your statement that popular = good. That's literally a fallacy. "Argumentum ad populum."

>You just ranted about how wrong people are for not thinking like you and liking popular media.
I've done nothing of the sort. But saying that financial success is a measure of actual quality is objectively wrong. This is because of the simple fact that you could take the same movie or game, inflate the advertising budget, and suddenly it's a much bigger success. That's just simple logic.
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>>385502053
It's 1 per every 133 at 47yo.

Take the chance. Go ahead.

>>385502024
>it goes down at 46 specifically
Most likely lack of data for childbirths at that specific age, but the pattern is still there.

>Well that's odd. So 13 is the peak year, huh?
Eh, from 13 to 28 it stays about the same.

Here's the autism chart, by the way. Notice how the maternal chart is exponential while the paternal one is linear.
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>>385502057
> Financial success and popularity are objective
They actually aren't, you can manipulate both.

Objectivity would be talking about gameplay, sound, worldbuilding, balance.

It have nothing to do with "my opinion is the only opinion" it's about the strawman "It's popular so it's good" all genres have their own metric to measure how "good" something is and it is never popularity

Popularity can be an indicator that something might be good, but popularity does not mean it is good
>>
>>385502402
>Objectivity would be talking about gameplay, sound, worldbuilding, balance.
Well no, those are largely subjective
Cold hard numbers are not
Not even him
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>>385491242
>>385502194

if you don't like it make your own videogame, cause this shit isn't changing anytime soon.
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>>385495584
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>>385502454
So you're saying that anything that makes a profit is good?
or is it anything that have a decent player base must be good?
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>>385501897
>older eggs have higher chances of autism
Makes sense since my mom was around 30 when I was born.
>>
>>385482695
Streamers is fucking cancer and need to be necked.
>>
>>385482695
It's best to act like a woman when dealing with children you know
>>
>>385502524
No, I'm saying that numbers are objective while talking about "gameplay, sound, worldbuilding, balance" is rather subjective
Stop reading arguments into posts
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>>385502524
>So you're saying that anything that makes a profit is good?
Pretty much yeah. Video games are a business.
>>
>>385502610
He's probably just on-edge because what he's arguing is so simple yet >>385502636 is too stupid to understand.
>>
>>385502610
But the entire argument I was making was that these things are better indicators of how good a game is than popularity or profit.
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>>385502660
You are too stupid to understand video games are a business. Companies exist to make a profit, not to cater to your minority opinion.
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>>385502484
Fuck off streamer, What do you want?

>A game where every single behavior is monitored and has to follow strict, rigid rules. Any little, minor deviation from the rules will get you instaban no matter what you have explained. Always treats the more popular and well-known players softer than any player, creating a social ladder within the game.

>A game that has respectable rules like all current multiplayer games. Everyone is treated the equal, regardless of their social rank they get the same treatment as any other player does.

What do you fucking choose?
>>
>>385501938
>>385502082
They fucking do this on BF4 servers.

IT'S RATED MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

JESUS FUCK WHO CARES IF IT'S A KID. THEY'RE BUYING A GAME AIMED FOR OLDER PEOPLE AND FUCKING SKELMOVERS OWNAERS WANAHT FRINELAMGF ENVIRONMENS
>>
Jesus Christ... Why can't those faggots get it through their gigantic fucking heads that Bluehole is a business and is going to do whatever the fuck they think is going to make the most money. A half-dozen virgin faggots singing about protesting isn't going to convince them to stop banning players they don't give two shits about because, well, they don't give two shits about it. They're raking in the cash with twitch streamers shilling their games for them.

People need to realize that video game developers DO NOT HAVE to listen to you bitches whine and complain all the time. Why? Because you are a very, very insignificant part of their over all business plans. I see people bitching about Call of Duty all the fucking time, but guess what? Your bitching isn't going to stop Activision from publishing the game. Because they make a fuck ton of money if they do.

The same logic (albeit in the opposite manner) can apply to Bluehole. You can bitch and whine and moan and groan about their shit all you fucking want, but it's never going to change a goddamn thing because they will rake in a lot more cash with twitch streamers on their side and than they ever will with you losers.

Deal wit it, and get over yourselves. You are not entitled to a goddamn thing when it comes to stuff like this. Fucking manbabies, all of you.
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>>385502704
They might be, but they are still subjective
People can agree with each other that these things are good or well-done or whatever, which just makes them share an opinion, which will always have people disagree
You don't need to agree on a game being a financial success because it's an objective question
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>>385502725
Dude, again, it's so simple. Nobody is talking about financial success. All that's being argued is that popular does not equal good because of the simple fact that that implies that if a game doesn't sell as well as another it MUST be because it's a worse game (and vice versa). And that's not the case at all.

You're arguing a different thing.
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>>385502727
if you want things to change, you should actually do something other than bitch online

the majority of gamers are ok with the direction were headed in so if you want things to change you're going to have to do it yourself.
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>>385502791
you can say that a game was a financial success, but that doesn't make it a good videogame.
there are some metrics within gameplay and such that are a milestick for "good" games, take platformers as an example, if it doesn't control well, it's not a good platformer.
There are some metrics you can objectively say that specific genres of videogames need to meet to be "good" without being objective.
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>>385502810
>>385502725
It's just a question of how you define "good"
Define "good" as "popular and/or financial success"? Congratz, you can now call these games good and be right whenever the numbers line uzp
Define "good" according to rather arbitrary standards like >>385502402 ? It'll be much harder to define when something is good, consensus has to be found in discussion, and some people will disagree because opinions vary
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>>385502948
>without being objective.

Subjective, fuck I need to go to sleep
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>>385499857
that would take effort/admit defeat/give me less reasons to cry on stream
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>>385502961
At the end of the day it doesn't matter so long as popular isn't seen as being a surefire sign of quality. This whole dicussion is basically someone saying "correlation does not equal quality" and someone else going "yeah but did it make a lot of money?" Because there must certainly be some correlation between being "good" (regardless of one's opinion) and financial success, but there's still a lot more to it.
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>>385499861
this.
the current age of humanity is on decline.
we will never make any more technological advancements worth a damn without more whites
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>>385485423
the mom is autistic and too retarded to see the connection
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>>385502948
>There are some metrics you can objectively say that specific genres of videogames need to meet to be "good" without being objective.
That's exceedingly hard, though. DF is a good, even excellent video game in my book. It misses the mark on many of these metrics, like having an intuitive UI and graphical representation, but makes it up by being way ahead in other areas compared to similar games. If I want to tell someone that the game is good, I'll have to have a lengthy discussion about why I think that x outweights y and the game should be considered good. And even then- someone who requires their UI to be of a specific standard will never agre with me, and always call the game shit
>>
>>385502961
>>385503069
Fuck, I meant to say "correlation does not equal causality". I'm tired too.
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>>385486847
*through the dark lord, amen
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>>385503069
Pretty much
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>>385503127
But that doesn't make DF a shit game, that makes DF a pretty fucking good game with a shit UI, no game is perfect and as soon as a game needs to be "perfect" in every regard we get regurgitated shitshows because no one dares make anything that haven't already been made.

A game can be good and still have flaws, a game can also be bad but have some good sides to it.

And ofcourse it's hard, it took decades to define a "good movie" and that's still evolving now, but if we shy away from discussing what makes videogames good/bad we're doing a huge disservice to videogames as a whole
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>>385503301
>But that doesn't make DF a shit game
That's the thing isn't it
People will disagree, and I've had lengthy discussions about the topic
Because it's subjective, and it isn't as easy as defining objective and yet subjective metrics to define if something is good to convince everyone
That's the advantage of using numbers to define quality- you don't have to find consensus. Of course you can argue about the purpose or pint of such a system, too, it's probably not very useful in a practical manner
Anyways, enough of this, I'll go play some video games now
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>>385498018
>I work at a counselling firm
wow that sounds worse than streaming
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>>385503492
You go play videogames my man, I would probably have been a bit more coherent if I had actually slept today but thanks for engaging me anon, it was fun
I hope you have fun in your videogames
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