Is LISA the Undertale of retro indie RPGs?

i thought undertale was the undertale of shitty indie RPGs

>>385477687
LISA is garbage, and here's why:

>>385477687
>Hurr durr ur da bad guy cus you're keeping the girl from being raped
>don't you feel aufyl for taking all those drugs? >You didn't take the drugs and lost all your limbs to do the right thing?
>HURR U STILL DA BADDIE

fuck that cuck game

>>385478857
The game is great, quit being a whiny faggot.
The dev is a raging cuck though.

redpill me on this game

>>385477687
Are Pointless and Hopeful any good?

>>385479390
>The dev is a raging cuck though.

Explain

>>385478271
>LISA is garbage, and here's why:
>

I see what you did there anon

>>385479497
yeah

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>>385479525
learn to separate creators from their work

>>385480453
his dad died and he's gone downhill from there

>>385480453
Another bites the dust

>>385479390
>tl;dr dev isn't aligned with you on your dumb drama bullshit so they're a cuck

>>385480568
just makes him a bitch for not being able to deal with something everyone has to

>>385480661
no, tl;dr, dev listens and believes the insane rhetoric of the hard left so they're a cuck (probably like you)

>>385479525
>Dad died
>Became depressed
>SJW monsters took advantage of this and somehow believe they aren't the monsters

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>>385477687
LISA came out before undertale

>>385480453
Context for any of this? Sounds like he's embarrassed to be associated with white pride autists, which is entirely reasonable.

>>385477687
if you wanted to have a LISA thread, just ask for a LISA thread, don't start it off with buzzwords and shit

>>385481039
This isn't reddit, fag

I want to play this game but it seems so depressing. I played a bit myself, but knowing how it ends, I dunno man.

>>385481148
anon I asked you to not do the buzzword stuff man, just call me a bitch or a fag man

>>385481405
bitch and fag are buzzwords, retard

>>385481497
Don't call him a retard you nigger

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What the fuck was her problem?

>>385481497
cmon man you're better than this, I know you can give me a creative insult that doesn't involve buzzwords

>>385481341
>I spoiled myself on this story heavy game and now I don't want to play it
What a shock

>>385481556
What are buzzwords considered? Cause I would say calling someone a cuck or a fag is a buzzword.
Also did anyone cry after beating this game? I did.

>>385481552
Spending your entire life underground being told that going outside would kill you and get you raped would make you a bit hostile, especially after actually being kidnapped and having your eye clawed out by some weird pervert

>>385481579
Spoilers don't ruin good stories, only bad ones.

>>385481552
2 X chromosomes.

>>385478857
The game doesn't pass judgement on you for trying to protect her, it passes judgement on you for the people whose lives you ruin along the way.

nah

it pretty much is only remembered because it copied and rode off the hype of undertale

>>385481676

plus taking a drug that is intended to make you angry and insane.

>>385481707
so is there a good ending then

>>385481556
bitch and fag are not creative insults, retard

>>385479480
It's the best game ever.

>>385481753
Do you think you deserve one?

>>385480931
That makes it even more retro.

>>385481687
You're really stupid and young if you believe this.

>>385478271
>>385478857
Holy shit nice

>>385481676
Soooooo....
>be told x will happen if I do y by z
>do y, x happens
>get pissed off at z for telling the truth

>>385481753
nah, there are different endings that reveal varying amounts of background for the characters but brad was fucked the moment he took joy, and buddy was fucked the moment she was born.

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>>385481653
I mean calling someone reddit for doing something different doesn't seem like a proper critique of what I said
mfw "did I do the right thing?"

Do people only play this for the story or is there good gameplay?

Also, in lisa, did Marty actually rape her? Is it confirmed, are was he just abusive and people inferred that?

>>385482035
It's basically revealed in Lisa the First he did rape her

>>385481884
she got kidnapped though, how is that her fault?

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Best song coming through.

https://youtu.be/qTKOah18x0g

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>>385482017
The battles are basic RPG Maker system with some twists, but it's well done considering that. The game gives you lots of different characters to find for your party, which I liked. Finding all the characters and figuring out how to recruit them is fun.

>>385481876
https://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/spoiler-alert-spoilers-make-you-enjoy-stories-more

>>385482017
The gameplay is alright but ultimately it's still just generic turn-based combat. The story alone is worth it.

Wait, is the dev of Lisa an SJW? I didn't know.

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what the fuck was buzzo's problem?

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>>385482372
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pIHSX_E8Tw

>>385482372
always love me some toots

This is my personal fav from joyful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQaVtC_NRZY

>>385482614
Probably because his personal politics are just that: personal.

>>385482635
play joyful

>>385482635
Lisa completely fucked him up. Buzzo and Lisa had a thing but he knew Lisa was getting sexually abused by Brad's father, so she had him mutilate her and kill animals as practice so her father wouldn't find her attractive anymore, which just led to more abuse until she killed herself.

thats the basic jist of it anyway

>>385478857
>>Hurr durr ur da bad guy cus you're keeping the girl from being raped

You're an idiot but you do have a point. Why is buddy so confrontational to you? Does she know she's going to be raped

>>385482510
>literal image macros interspersed in article
You're really stupid and young.

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>>385482635
mentally unstable childhood gf
LIIIIIIIISAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>385478000
Fpbp

>>385482854
Okay, nobody cares. What are his opinions?

>>385482614
>world made up entire of fucking white males
>anarchy and death

Really makes you think.

Undertale
>Completely apolitical nerd gamer with the ability to compose music and create likeable characters

Lisa
>Edgy SJW cuckold with shitty repetitive music and unlikeable characters

>>385483034
Fuck you, Terry is way better than any undertale character.

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>>385482017

The storyTELLING is phenomenal as to how it turns it into basically a movie you can play. Everything sort of flows together. There's a LOT of slow parts though. Imagine like in a movie, it does a screen pan over an area to give you the general idea of what location you're in. In LISA, basically you walk around trying to figure out what to do for 30 minutes, while exploring the area. Enemies transition between talking to combat pretty smooth, and always end smooth too when combat ends. A lot of interactions are humorous and the music sounds like what you'd expect Hell to sound like, but then it turns into a solid 8/10 once you get used to it. Its an acquired taste.

The gameplay: It's an RPG what do you expect. Turn based combat with some minor changes. Only real difference is it's much more item based for an RPG. A lot of combat revolves around preparing for the unexpected. A LOT of the games' charm comes from "Woah that was intense, didn't see that coming" moments.

But yeah, it's still an RPG Maker game. A lot of the game is walking into a different screen and falling off a cliff because limitations.

>>385482926
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0956797611417007

Do I need to spoon-feed you?

>>385482915
Also what are the mutants supposed to be? Do they come from Joy? How was that scientist guy able to control them with a trumpet in joyful?
What the fuck was even the flash? Why did it kill only women?

>>385482992
He hates white nationalists

>>385483219
How did you get all the way through Joyful and not understand that the mutants were humans mutated by the Joy drug?

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The Batter could destroy both Brad and Frisk in a fight.

Prove me wrong.

>>385483321
I pretty much assumed they were from Joy. I just don't know how and why the scientist guy controlled them with a trumpet.

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>the sole cause that sets the entire series into motion
What
the
FUCK
was her problem?

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>>385483476

>>385478857
>cuck game

Sorry about your retardation.

>>385482372
mah nigger

>>385483481
If there´s someone to blame is Yado.
toots you

I kinda wish the game was more focused on the goofy Earthbound/HnK-esque apocalypse.
Most of the stuff during those segments had me rolling.

>>385483481
>not brads dad

Lisa was a product of her abuse. If it wasn't for their Dad then the events of Painful would have still happened (the flash, joy mutants etc) just without brad and Buzzo.

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>>385483476
Um, hello?

>>385483476
what are all these from? I only recognize Lisa and Undertale.

>>385483721
>>385483775
But she is the Worst canonically.
https://twitter.com/cometandcrow/status/664672782211399680?lang=en

>>385483721
Nah blame brad for raping Lisa

>>385483809
nice walking sim

>>385483832
OFF is the other one. It's free, by the way.

https://youtu.be/V81DlvZkxGE

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>>385483403
Off was pretty cool but I wish there was more to it. Not a sequel, but more depth to the gameplay and story. Overall it was just a standard turn-based RPG with a weird and interesting story.

>>385483898
she may be the worst, but as I said, she's a product of her upbringing.

Constant physical and sexual abuse since you were a baby can fuck you up hardcore.

>>385483775
Anon this entire series is about how we're all products of abuse. There is no beginning. We can only hope it ends.

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I want Ninja Tears to be good, but dingaling seems to have really lost it now.

>>385484145
Is Dingaling rich now? A lot of these indie devs become millionaires overnight, but I guess that might not have been the case for him.

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>>385483809
no one cares about your garbage loli game

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>>385483403
Psychic baseball jesus can fuck all of them up.

>alt-right racists tell liberals and feminists to make their own game
>they do
>its amazing

Okay alt-right weenies, where is YOUR game? I certainly don't see any games made by 4chan.

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Ce fil est impur

>>385484145
Don't worry, Anon. Even if Ninja Tears is a flop, we have Lisa the Pointless' second half to look forward to.

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>>385484304

>>385484407
Yeah, no sweetie.

>>385484304

Not every anon on this website is the same, you idiot.

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>>385484304
It was too good for american audiences

>>385484145
>Ninja Tears
Is that fucker even going to finish it?

>>385478857
>Hurr durr ur da bad guy cus you're keeping the girl from being raped
Did you even play the game? It never portrayed Brad as the "bad guy," it left that up to the player. Brad and Rando did next to nothing wrong. Just because Brad had people opposed to him doesn't mean the game made him out to be the bad guy. Rando and Buzzo even tell Buddy that Brad was a good person who was looking out for her.

>>385483107
>falling off a cliff because limitations.
>limitations

it's cute you think that

>>385484598
>Rando and Buzzo even tell Buddy that Brad was a good person who was looking out for her.
Forgot to add that this happened in LISA the Joyful.

>>385484598
Buddy treats you like the bad guy. She lashes out at you for completely no reason. You save her from being raped and she just kind of gets mad at you.

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>>385481552

What a cunt she was.

>>385484757
she was on joy at that point

>>385484820
Wait what, when was this? I know she took joy in Lisa the joyful but not before that.

So I see there are a lot of traditional, more straight-forward RPG Maker games that get pushed through Steam Greenlight. Are ANY of them good? If I wanted to play a generic SNES Final Fantasy clone, at least one of the hundreds available must be decent, right?

>>385484874
when you find her with Marty they have a quick conversation about joy and Buddy says that it doesn't taste good, but makes her feel better.

>>385484992
Greenlight is dead

>>385485185
Yeah, but all the shitty games are still there.

>>385485112
Oooh, I'm stupid. I forgot about that.
Tnx

>>385477687
Spoiler: Indie RPG's have some of the most shit fans of any game fandom ever.

>>385484757
A character dynamic does not mean that the game makes you out to be the bad guy. Buddy was a huge cunt on Joy and the game makes this very clear when she slaughters a village of pacifists. She also had a few reasons like Brad sheltering her, but that comes off as a misconception because she doesn't understand Brad's reasoning, while the player does. I remember that Brad's friends were telling her lies about Brad after they took her, but I can't say for sure since I haven't played it in a while.

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>>385482824
>You're my little Buddy

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>>385485329
There's always a bigger fish

>>385485613
Its pretty neck and neck.

Even LISA has a fucking autistic fandom full of people who tried making a bunch of fangames and end up creating fucking drama among them.

>>385480956
He had a fit after his father's death, calmed down soon and stopped tweeting political stuff.

>>385481552
She was under the effects of Joy the entire game, why do people like to ignore that so much?

>>385485828
But do they self-censor and death-threaten content creators?

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So this part was just a hallucination or something, right? Or was Marty just alive the whole time? I like this game but fuck, that part is so on the nose.

>>385477687
I want to beat you to death with a running weed whacker.

>>385483107
>limitations
He scripted each fall separately because he couldn't figure out how to make it work otherwise. He knew very well what he was doing.

>>385486013
I think its real. Buddy's interaction with Marty indicated as such.

>>385480453

Shit like this makes me glad I'm not some retard who runs their mouth before thinking and filtering the shit heading towards it.

All it takes to not make yourself look permanently retarded is to just stop, take a deep breath, and walk away from your computer for 30min so you don't let your retard anger and dumb shit ideologies escape.

>>385486149
So let me get this straight:
Marty survived the flash and decided to just sit on his couch? What a hero.

>>385486204
He only lost the respect of white pride faggots, though, so really not much lost.

>>385484145
It's been more than a month since his last tweet, I wonder what he's doing. I hope he'll at least finish Ninja Tears, but I really doubt that now.

Never played Undertale or LISA. Anyone mind linking me to a Youtube playthrough of one or both of them with minimal or no autism?

>>385486389
What else are you gonna do? 90% of the world seems to be some big gay disco. If that's not your thing you don't have many other options.

>>385486481
just search for longplay no commentary

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>>385486481
>Youtube playthrough

kys

Does the game ever explain what the flash is and why it killed the womanz?
It was probably a sexist nuke.

>>385486531
>have to actually type "no commentary" into criteria

I am disgruntled beyond words.

>>385486414
>Only white nationalists view this rhetoric as distasteful
Making broad statements accusing white America of being bigoted because they picked the giant douche instead of the turd sandwich is retarded.

>>385486013
Cave scene in Painful was real.

ALL of Lisa RPG was made up in Lisa's mind. Lisa made up the whole thing then killed herself. That's what Austin meant by "hidden lore" and why Lisa was the most evil.

>>385486783
But white America voted for him though. Literal nazis voted for him to promote immigration and anti-diversity.

>>385486694
We live in an age of unparalleled faggotry

>>385486013
I figured that scene was just a fucked up hallucination. Buddy reacts like it's real but she's more fucked up than Brad on Joy at that point anyway

>>385480956
that's really all it is, but everyone got pissy about it and now we cant have any kinda good lisa thread without calling him a cuck

pretty sad

>>385486954
Why does that make Lisa evil? Buddy was the one doing bad stuff.

>>385486969
The same white America also voted for Obama. To say that because one or two nazis may have voted for a candidate therefore the candidate is unpalatable altogether (and that all whites are at fault) is unintellectual. I don't hold it against Hillary or Bernie that they had antifa members vote for them.

>>385486954
And then Brad went into an alcohol induced coma and dreamed up Lisa who dreamed up the entire series and the whole thing was really purgatory
deebest lore

>>385487209
>Buddy reacts like it's real but she's more fucked up than Brad on Joy at that point anyway

Hardly. She couldn't have been taking them longer than a couple of weeks. Brad has been on them for years if the intro is any indication.

>>385484796
Has, anon.

>>385486969
>Hey about .1% of the people who voted for [CANDIDATE] are of [UNDESIRABLE GROUP]
>that means that they're ALL [UNDESIRABLE GROUP]!

By that same logic Hillary was voted for by literal terrorists and communists

>>385487826
It's not just the time spent, but the amount too. since she got there, she apparently hasn't been doing anything but taking Joy and hanging out in a cave.

>>385485941
because they hate her already and dont wanna think about her character in depth

>>385486954
this is retarded. lisa didnt make shit up. brad knew what happened to her, that was his entire reason for being so super protective of buddy. and if that ending of the joyful is to be considered canon, he was even made to take part in sexually abusing lisa with marty. lisa could be considered evil because of what she made buzzo do, or MAYBE that she made buzzo and brad feel so fucked up that they did awful things to "avenge" her but fuck cmon now

context yall

>>385486783
What "rhetoric?" He's explicitly calling out white nationalist/white pride cunts and saying he's ashamed to be associated with them by virtue of his skin color.

>>385488361
just ignore them and talk about lisa friend and this can be a good thread

>>385477687
anon, let's meet, you and me, sometime late besides and abandon amusement park, it'll be chill, I promise.

>>385487250
Lisa wasn't actually raped or molested by Marty. She made that up, that's what makes her evil.

This is what makes the cave scene so fucked, because the player is in the dark about it, and like Brad, views Marty as a child molester, when her actually was not.

>>385477687
No, it's the Off of Underbounds

>>385488361
Anyone who takes pride in things they haven't accomplished and had nothing to do with is an absolute mongoloid

Race, gender, sexuality, nationality
Hogwash

I built a house in highschool as part of a shop class along with ten other people. It's been used by a low-income family of five for the past six years. I'm proud of that.

I don't think you should be proud of having the preference to suck cock or the level of melanin in your skin.

>>385481991
first game in awhile that had me hooked to find out what happened.

>>385482694
/vr/ did nothing wrong

>>385488361
> I should be ashamed of being [black/mexican/arab] because other people who are [black/mexican/arab] happen to be [gang members/cartels/terrorists]

Do you not see how fucktarded you cucks sound?

>>385482372
c'mon nigga

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qt_YBRk08M

>>385488562
There is literally nothing that supports this

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best companion coming through

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>>385488983
>not based Terry

What's wrong with you anon?

>>385486149
There's nothing to suggest that buddy is actually even there. In my opinion it's a joy induced fever dream

>>385486954
>>385486954
That dosent make any sense though.
There's plenty of details in the painful that alude to the fact that Brad was sexually abused. One of the endings to the joyful straight up tells you that Marty forced him to rape his sister.

>>385488949
Read Austin's Twitter.

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> Why did he do it /v/?

>Dad misses you....

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>best bro throughout game
>totally unapologetic upon betrayal

>>385489219
He doesn't like buddy and says Lisa is most evil. nothing that suggests she made up being raped

>>385486481
dude, painful is less than 10 hours long, and 2 bucks on sale, or free for a 1 min download, just do it.

>was going to tell us the background on olathe and the story
>says we couldnt figure it out and decides to not tell us
fuck you widdly

>>385486694
"HEEEEY GUYS, WHAT'S GOING ON, STUPDERMAGIFROMA HERE, GONNA PLAY A GAME, YEP, LET'S PLAY, BUT FIRST THIS IS MY KITTY, SAY HELLOW TO MY KITTY OKAY, WOAH, NEED A SNAKE BREAK!"

>>385486481
Just play lisa, undertale is shit

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>>385489091
Terry is at a close second with me man.
He reminds me too much of myself though.

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>>385489372
>Shocklord during the betrayl

>>385488949
I think Lisa having Buzzo to mutilate her and torture animals is enough to prove she is fucked.

>>385489494
honestly it would be a distraction anyway. even elaborating on who yado was/what his goal was was a mistake

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>>385482372
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqK48MhTGtU

>>385489372
You're dumb. Rage joined you for mags. He couldn't possibly knew that you were searching Buddy. Rage talked shit so you would fight him. But despite that, he couldn't lie to himself and wouldn't even fight back properly, crying and skipping turns.

>>385488983
that's not fly

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>>385488983
Why do you wear that stupid human mask?

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>>385489573
>shocklord is the only one to not attack brad at all

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>>385485828
>mfw LISA the Beautiful got cancelled because some beta fuck couldn't keep his dick in his goddamn pants
Nigga, how hard is it to get a hooker?

>>385480453
He sounds reasonable. No, I won't.

>>385486389
I mean, if The Flash were ever to occur in real life, all i've got are my nephews and my brother-in-laws
Not much we can do besides sit around, drink beer, and raise those kids. At least I don't have someone else in my house telling me to stop being a neet now since there is no work.

Only thing I have to worry about then is getting caught in a nigga moment

>>385490169
gestalt me

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>>385490012
>party of Terry, Nern, and Olan
>none of them attack me
>mfw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-5_zoEsY6c

IT'S UP

>>385489576
that doesn't mean she made up what marty did to her

>>385490369
So, the programmers and the chick working on the music(Taitoki) are all in a discord, and they talk to one another.

One day, one of the devs just starts flirting with her out of the blue, and she's like hey, cut that out, you've got a job to be doing. I think this is a cause of Girl on the Internet syndrome.
The dev then later goes on to start talking to Taitoki's friends, and she's telling her that she's getting all sorts of weird messages, some of them sounding threatening, and that's when Taitoki calls it quits.

Music's done, and up on bandcamp, but the game's effectively cancelled.
https://taitoki.bandcamp.com/album/sounds-of-lisa

>>385490479
>hbomber
haha, thanks but no thanks.

>>385490534
Play/watch Lisa The First

Marty is human scum

>>385480453
"what's the connection with anime and these goons?" kek

>>385490935
She's not even hot

>>385489236
RIP in piece :'(

>>385482915
she whollly accepts her place as the savior of Olathe

>>385491476
post pics

>>385489236
He was done partying

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3QBQx9v9hE
>tfw party was terry, shocklord, and bo
>shocklord doesn't even attack at all
>bo just plays a familiar tune

>>385482915
Maybe she wants to get raped

>>385491476
That's why I thought it was just a case of "Girl on the Internet" syndrome. If that dude didn't even know she was a chick, everything would've been hunky-dory.

>>385491680
There's one of her on the bandcamp page

>>385477687
the dlc is garbage

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>>385480453
He got upset when his dad died.

That said,
>I'm ashamed to be white
Is said both by SJWs who don't like the racism white ppl have done,
and also by /pol/ who don't like the -opposition- to racism that white ppl have done.
I mean, who ended slavery and segregation and apartheid? Sure wasn't the chinese.

And he's right, to a degree, of the frailness of the white race. We're internally fractured by SJW shit, and both sides of that divide get their feelz hurt very easily. That's weakness.

You spend too long in /pol/ you'll end up disgusted with the state of the world.
You spend too long on SJW and you'll end up disgusted with the state of the world.
There's a lot of disagreement on -how- to unfuck the situation, but both sides agree that whitey sure has some unfucking to do.

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>>385492059
yuck she's gross

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>>385489930
>>385489686
>>385489091
>>385488983
huh?

>>385479497
pointless is god tier quality for a fan game, but the combat is kinda wack if you are expecting lisa: painful kind of combat, i haven't play much of hopeful tho.

>>385491882
>Had to look at rule 34 of Buddy to desensitize myself to the events of the Joyful.
So this is the power of anime

>>385490935
what in the FUCK are you on about anon? the same guy who made the game made the music.

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>>385481687

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>>385481718
>copied
>came out before undertale
hmmmmm....

>>385493346
You weren't paying attention at all to the conversation chain you dumbass. I'm talking about cancelled FANGAMES, you goddamn illiterate.

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>>385493448
u mad tho

>>385493431
>implying humankind isn't so predictable that you can predict the future
>implying you can't then steal ideas from that predicted future
>implying you can't copy something that comes after you

>>385477687
hipster bait game

>>385490935
He makes some good music tho.

https://youtu.be/MhmDrtU_jMw

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>>385482694
>nern is /hist/

Perfect.