Why did this series sell so poorly?

They made 3 and a racing game. Couldn't have done that bad.

Insomniac was always better than Naughty Dog and still is.

>>385472903
Games don't get multiple sequels if they sell poorly you retard

>>385472903

The games differ too vastly. The series immediately went dark and edgy with the sequels despite the first game having such a lighthearted tone, which I imagine effectively alienated anyone who was drawn in by the first game. And one of the games wasn't even a platformer or action-adventure game, it was a racer.

>>385473859
C O M E
A N D
B U Y
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P I X E L I Z E R

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>>385474807
don't remind me

>>385474040
>which I imagine effectively alienated anyone who was drawn in by the first game

Absolutely not. The audience aged with the games and liked the evolution.

>>385475174
i don't see how less than 2 years is considered aging, along with the games after Jak 2 coming out within a year of each other.
also, Jak 2 was complete shit. it's essentially what you expect from a modern day Ubisoft gme.

The Ratchet and Clank games had better gameplay, but the Jak games had cooler stories and worlds.

Poorly? It had like 6 games

>>385472903
It sold well, what the fuck are you spouting?

>>385475840
>Jak 2 was complete shit
Yet it was better than Jak 1 in every way possible.
Jak 3 had better platforming but was too easy.

>>385472903
censor that goatee

>>385476383
Jak's goatee is the best part of the series.

>>385475840
Sure if you're 25 instead of 23, but if your 14 instead of 12 the Jak 2 might've been exactly what you wanted.

>>385475840
I was 11 when Jak 1 came out, I was 13 when Jak 2 came out, I was 14 when Jak 3 came out.

All the games were fantastic, for the record.

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>>385472903
jak X was really good

>>385476787
I was lucky with the game, it never wiped my memory card data despite playing it all the time

>>385476787
Played it last year, can confirm, one of the best racing games ever. Beat it with all gold medals, Hero Mode is kicking my ass.

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I wish I could see what ND would have done with Lost Frontier.

If the story would still be a massive mess, that would be ironic.

Because Ratchet & Clank exists

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FUCK this mission.

>>385472903
The first game sold well. Series steadily died after that because it became an unfocused bandwagon-following mess.

>>385478078
That's not the sewer escort mission

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>>385478413
>tfw stuck on those two missions and can't do anything else
>tfw playing the Vita port
Living is suffering

Imagine if they remade Jak II and Jak 3 as modern open-world stealthy shooters.

>>385478506
>you can skip strip mine and the first third of the game as soon as you escape
>still have to do the escort
we cannot be saved

>>385478078
The racing mission with Erol in the city was pure cancer

>>385478650
>Imagine if Jak II and Jak 3 followed shitty popular design trends in an attempt to appeal to a wide audience
Yeah, imagine...

>>385472903
why are you talking out your ass? look up the numbers, consider how many games were for how many years, and even anecdotally anyone around a lot of PS2s will tell you a shitload of people owned these games

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>>385478650
>Post YFW we will never have a true Jak & Daxter games remaster with realistic yet cartoony graphics because we're already getting PS2 emulation
Why couldn't they have given them the Crash treatment?

>>385479038
>wanting nu-naughty dog anywhere near this series

>>385479140
No, I just want the same game with stupid good textures and more accurate jump response time ;-;

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>>385478506
>Vita port

>>385479257
>implying they wouldn't redesign the hot females
it needs to stay dead

>>385472903
The series should have been Playstation's mario, why the fuck don't they force naughty dog to make a new one?

>>385479038
You serious? Better than the original is preserved than some no-name developer give the game an artless and inferior "remake" because a bunch of 14 year olds care way too much about how many pixels are on screen.

Jak II was shit. I don't care what anyone says. That guy who compared it to Watch Dogs was right on the money.

>>385479512
modern sony would probably like to keep anything that isnt walking through a forest talking simulators away from their brand. They have Naughy dog making them stuff like uncharted and Last of us to roll in the big bucks and look like mature serious games for mature serious gamers so why would they ever make them create a game that looks like its for a younger audience?

>>385479403
Relax, autist. I own all the PS2 games, I just wanted to play them in the car when I had to go out one day.

I could never stomach those games, I hated Daxter too much

>>385479404
>>385479585
I think he implied he wanted the same game but better looking and is sad that it wouldn't work out because of the reasons you just stated.

>>385479973
>better looking
J&D looks fucking great, it has a timeless art style.

>>385480130
Yeah but if you hook a PS2 to a 4K TV it looks like shit. I tried a couple days ago.

I wish I had't sold my CRT.

>>385479512
Have you seen the jak 4 concept art? Be glad they stopped making them, Naughty Dog's forgotten how to make enjoyable games

>>385480130
This, plus naughty dog has always been spectacular at animations, so that combined with the timeless visual style makes the games still look great today.

>>385474040
I played jak 2 first and when I finally played the first one, I'm like "wtf, jacks a fucking loser now. and mute

What's with that? Does Dark Eco somehow cure mutism?

>>385472903
They were all million sellers you executive snob

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>>385479140
>>385479404
>>385479585
>>385479973
>>385480130
>>385480258
>>385480357
Holy shit faggots. Wind Waker HD but for Jak & Daxter. Is it too hard to understand?

>>385473051
what about the psp game?

>>385480756
Lost in the annals of time.
What were they thinking?

Has Jak become old enough that the kids on /v/ can now start shitting on it?

Jak 2 is definitely an example of making something too edgy but I thought it was a good game. You can dislike the attempts at a darker tone and a grab at an older audience without resorting to meme speak and call anyone who likes the game edgy teenagers.

judging by that image?: terrible character design

Because its shitty garbage trying to ride the coattails of Nintendo.

Actually support Nintendo and their games, not bootlegs.

>>385480314
jak 4 concept art is kino

>>385480756
>>385481062
You are now aware that Daxter on PSP sold more than any of the main series on PS2.

>>385481079
The edginess isn't the problem with Jak 2, the game actually has some pretty entertaining dialogue. The problem is the third-rate GTA clone gameplay, as well as the ugly visuals and shit music.

The only objectively hard mission is Destroy 5 Hellcat Cruisers

>>385472903
Each sold over 1 million copies, but I think Ratchet & Clank was the reason they didn't sell as well as they could have. Both mascot platformers on the Playstation with sidekicks, and although I prefer Jak, Ratchet was the better series.

>>385481301
I looked it up because I didn't believe you and holy shit you're right. Wasn't it a very early psp game?

>>385481431
Funnily enough me and my Dad used to play through games together (I was like 9 at the time and he'd help me) and this was the mission that stumped us. Wasn't until a few years later that I actually beat the game.

>>385481301
Holy shit, that ain't right.

>>385481301
I've actually played it and while it is no where near as good as the trilogy or x it still a good game in its own right
>those dream sequence minigames

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It sold well enough, but was certainly overshadowed by Ratchet and Clank. Plus, ND seemed to be in the habit of dropping their IPs after the third game and going onto the next thing.

>>385481650
Launch title iirc and bundled with some PSPs. Kind of like how the numbers for the original Super Mario Bros are fudged because it was sold with NES. I wanted a PSP so bad to play that game as a kid and it was like the one system that I'd wanted that I never got the means to play

>>385474807
Just fucking went and watched GamingBrit's Ratchet video again because of this post, thanks senpai.

>>385480314
Imagine taking concept art this seriously lads

>>385478078
You are not told to get on the board, or WHAT the wells look like. By the time you figure out what to do, you don't have time to win. This mission is 100% trial & error.

And no, nobody claiming to doing it in 1 go is honest.

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>>385481079
Remember: if you like something on the Internet, you are shilling.

The only way to not shill is to never like anything. That true /v/ way.

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>>385481079
Nice bullshit, mate.

Obligatory:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtPm9n61JCM

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>>385478773
>artificial difficulty, rubber banding bullshit

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>>385481431
For me, the two worst ones were the underwater mech suit segment, and the hero mode version of the rail turret.

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>>385472903
driving through haven city, shooting and getting shot by other racers all while this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKxQe35h8os is blasting in the background. best racing game

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>>385485474
Shame we never got UnKarted

>>385485335
Oh god, if vicarious ever game them that sweet Nsane triology esque change

Mmmmmmmm

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>>385482946
Not quite a launch title. It came out almost exactly a year after the PSP launched, but Sony pushed it pretty hard, and made bundle that included the Family Guy: The Freakin' Sweet Collection. If you were going to buy a PSP in early 2006 this bundle was likely the one you were going to get. (It was the one I got - though I got mine in early 2007 instead.)

>>385481393
this. the cutscenes for Jak 2 (as well as Jak) are pretty great for their time, mainly because they actually attempt to care for cinematography. however
>shit gameplay with piss poor platforming
>dull as all hell visuals
>god awful missions
>story is retarded
>massive, empty city that's entirely pointless
>npcs in said empty city literally walk around as if they're dead
>shit driving through the city
>infinite loop of 3 notes

Could you imagine what Modern Naughty Dog would try to do with Jak?

Also where is Unkarted? It is a tradition to do 3 games and a kart game.

>>385476267
Kek

>>385488521
Almost none of the staff that worked on Crash 1- Jak X work at Naughty Dog anymore. It's pretty much a completely different company. The founders even left after Uncharted 1.

>>385487949
That's what I got as well. Fuck Family Guy, but Daxter is one of the best platformer games EVER, even if you don't give jak about the series (though why would you play it if so?).

>>385488817
No wonder their games fucking suck now

>>385489535
Normies love them though. And normies outnumber us.

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>>385489885
>>385489957
>>385490017
XD?

>>385490189
seems more like an xD tier post to me

>>385489885
>>385489957
>>385490017
KEK

Can we talk about how Jak3 is one of the best open world platformer games ever made?

>>385490189
>>385490484
>>385490660
did i do a good job, ilk brothers? :)))))))))))))))))))

>>385490484
ah yes. I agree.
That's why I added the question mark

>>385490923
Ammo capacity upgrade makes it too easy past the halfway point.

Weird character (ugly) design

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>>385491723

>>385491723
Ecks Dee, amirite?

>>385491334
im playing jak 3 right now to get a good webm of this

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smKzaBRPzLA

I cannot fucking wait for Jak X to come to PS4.
One of the best arcade racing games I've ever played.

>>385472903
Give it to me straight /v/. I only like the third game, I've tried the first two and did not like them. How gay am I?

>>385494216
i'm still playing 2, but it's complete shit, so i'd say you're fine. 1 is good, but i thought it was awful when i started playing it initially, so i'm not gonna blame you.

>>385494216
As gay as /pol/ shitposters.

>>385494652
wew that's pretty gay.

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>>385476787
I had to remove the memory card to not trigger the stupid autosave glitch, and the game wound up corrupting some of my save data anyway.. Shit on Andy and Jason all you want but the moment they went out the door and left Amy and Cuckmann in charge of everything it all went to shit. Jak X was potentially unplayable and the Uncharted series is about as boring a TPS as it gets. What annoys me is /v/ excuses everything Amy Hennig ever did because muh Legacy of Kain and SEE WE DON'T HATE ALL WOMEN GUYS. I had an argument once with some idiot who tried to excuse her of all fault for Jak X when she was the fucking director. Naughty Dog even flat out refused to fix it and Sony had to offer replacement memory cards. I hope to fucking god the PS4 version doesn't corrupt my whole fucking system which is probably why it never got an HD port on the PS3 and Vita.
[spoilerGIVE IT TO ME GIVE ME SOME MORE[/spoiler]

>>385494216
That's your opinion and perfectly fine. You're free to enjoy whatever you wish.

>>385476787
>jak X was really good
except for that saving bug, that made it impossible to play the game on certain PS2 models.

And these assholes never fixed it. Not even for the platinum re-release.

I wish Jak and Daxter got a proper sequel instead of going the direction it did. If I wanted to play a good 3D platformer with guns, I'd play Ratchet and Clank.
The sequels never really expanded on the things I would have enjoyed, like more eco/eco combos, more movesets, different platforming gimmicks and an expanded story in the same vein. Maybe I need to replay Jak 2 and 3 (might be better than I remember), because I played 1 recently and loved it even though it was really short.

>IM GONNA KILL PRAXIS


What did he mean by this?

>>385497135
>that saving bug
never happened to me

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>nobody remembers Lost Frontier
>there were actually six Jak & Daxter games total, four on PS2 and two on PSP
first one was still the best

Ratchet & Clank did everything better from the start. These games kinda suck.

I never thought Jak & Daxter was any good

It seemed Naughty Dog only made it because they were still butthurt about reviews shitting on Crash for not being "True 3D" like Mario 64, they never seemed to have any real passion or vision for the series other than "We can do 3D platformers too!" hence why the sequels turned into GTA

>>385475174
I aged with the Jak series and was really into GTA at the time and even then I found the switch in tone to be really dumb and it put me off from the rest of the series. I stuck with the ratchet and clank series instead which thankfully didn't fall for the stupid dark and edgy bandwagon.

>>385476267
Full retard.

>>385472903
First game was Crash in an open world with a very annoying mascot, I don't think a lot of people liked Daxter, then the tone shifted from relatively light hearted into edge with Jak 2, it being just a shoddy GTA clone with Crash in it (the vehicle controls are ass along with the aiming, auto aim is shoddy too), but it's competent, which is all a game needs to sell. I heard 3 was a better improvement but I never played it so I can't really judge it.

>>385497726
on certain PS2 models.

After the first game, they radically changed the aesthetic, tone, and gameplay in order to appeal to the GTA and JRPG crowd that was a prevalent market at the time. This drove off a significant portion their initial playerbase and it didn't appeal much to the new audience they desired to attract.