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WILD AND PURE FOREVER FREE
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And this kids is why you don't use the same filenames for multiple pictures
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>ywn rise high above her rivals
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I died laughing at the sheer stupidity of this quests. I loved every single moment of them.
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>>385468263
>not SUSAN-Os
ONE FUCKING JOB
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>cleared susano ex the second night I tried learning it thru DF
Not sure if ex fights are easier these days or I've gotten better at this game
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I tweeted hiroshima but you can be sure it's gonna be like pissing in the ocean.
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>DRK in pvp
oooh boy. Time for healers to have no fun at all
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>>385468356
>being this much of a gaijin

Susanoo is with two O's, not one.
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>>385468837

REMOVE UNMEND
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>>385469027
In the same way "light" is spelled "raitu"
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>>385470386
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>>385468769
EX fights are easy in SB, you cannot fuck it up.
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>>385472117
>it's okay when Japan changes spelling to suit their speech
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>>385468094
ARR hildibrand was the fucking best.
The HW ones have their moments but they were clearly not planned in advance like the ARR ones.
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>mfw having to pass up all these hunt calls in the LS chat because I'm in a queue for LotA
Why the fuck are SE waiting until 4.1 for the Raid Roulette, this shit is killing me. I just want to do this content I haven't done yet. Are the queues for the HW 24-mans this terrible?
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>>385472614
Why would you want to do LotA? Just wait for roulettes to come out or try queuing around reset when mentors get their resets.
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>>385468837
>>385470116
I'm glad they nerfed it to 30sec
>That horrible feel when stuck in a double DRK vortex in Feast we're you're unnable to get back to your team because they would spam the shit out of it on your ass
God that was fucking awful
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I'm aiming for the genji bow. What allagan weapons are BiS for other jobs?
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>>385472690
I've hit my creation cap for the week and I'd like for it to be fresh when I start trying to clear through Omega Normal and the EX Primals. In the meantime I want to do some of the content I passed up on the way to 70.
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>>385472802
WD > ALL
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>>385472802
Thing is, Weapon damage is fucking KING.
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>>385467608
>Face when only now you start playing the game seriously

Just got to level 50 in 2.0, and I'm still hundreds of hours from the good content in SB. How did you manage it /v/? I heard that 2.0 postgame is awful too
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>>385472857
Just solo it. You'll have a much better experience than attempting to DF it.
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>>385472614
Labyrinth of the Ancients was pretty fucking great. It was my first ever raid on a MMO and I had a blast.
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>>385472935
By playing the game since release and taking breaks when I got bored.

>Fag is complaining that its taking a while when they made it piss easy to gain levels so even dps can be vastly overlevelled way before even fighting garuda normal
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>>385472935

Heavensward is a lot of fun
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>>385472953
LotA isn't like Coils. You HAVE to go into it sync'd

>>385473010
This will be the same for me. XIV is the first MMO I've likes enough to hit cap in
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>>385467608
Stealth FFXIV thread?
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>>385473085
Unsynced Coil is so not fun. Beating Nael synced was, by far, the best moment I ever had in a FF game.
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>tfw tanking and the rest of the party fucks up every mechanic and there's nothing you can do to help them
>tfw doing Susano QTE and the other tank lets the orbs hit the party or the DPS are failing the DPS check on the sword
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Why do fem Primals have the best designs and themes, /v/?
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>>385472860
>>385472894
But the Genji Greatbow is superior to the Augmented Lost Allagan Composite Bow.
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why do people still login to this game? it's boring as shit with its 2.5s gcd
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>>385473934
by like level 40 you have another skill to use between each global cool down so effectively the cooldown is like 1.25 seconds, which is further reduced by how you get tons of buffs to skill speed from armor and class skills
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>>385473549
Yes but if you play DPS, no matter the secondary stats, you want the Genji weapon.
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>>385468837

DRK in pvp is fun as shit I was not expecting that when I queue'd up for the first time.
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>>385467608

I'd let passion run wild on her if you catch my drift
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>>385474174
I've found all the jobs to be fun in pvp except casters but maybe I'm just playing them wrong.
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>>385473934
protip: people enjoy different things than you
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>>385474118
>you want the Genji weapon
Which I already said I want? I asked which lost allagan weapon is BiS for any job that isn't bard.
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>tfw entire party runs over to the one idiot that didn't pop vril before transition and starts /mdancing around him and he still dont get it and dies

He probably thought he popped it and alt+tab'd out but still funny as fuck
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>>385474231
>but maybe I'm just playing them wrong.
I don't like RDM and SMN at all but my god, is BLM fucking fun.
Nuking people left and right feels good.
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>>385474231
BLM is just so much fun when you're not targeted
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>>385474327
None.
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>>385474327
None will be bis because 1 WD is equal to 40 points of main stats.
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>start the game playing healer
>start leveling a tank for a change of pace
>unable to ignore when the healer is phoning it in

I can't believe how many of them take offense to "you don't have to heal me every time I take damage, you can do some DPS until I fall below 50% if you want to be safe" The worst part is when the dps shitters agree with them. "healers don't do much damage anyway" Like shit nigger you're just wasting mana overhealing me constantly just throw some spells at the enemy FUCK.
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>>385474875
They just wanna watch netflix while doing nothing at all, that's why they don't add any DPS or anything.
Healing is the easy mans job if you don't give a fuck. Because you just overheal, and have quicker queues than a DPS.
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Is DRK the best current tank or why do I keep seeing DRK every time I enter a dungeon?
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>>385475043

DRK starts at 30 so its a bit more favourable in general. PLD is still a bit better overall.
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>>385474875
Honestly, I tend to overheal in big pulls as well. It happened too often that sudden spikes in damage at <50% lead to a wipe.
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>>385474505
Oh yeah, I forgot that all lost allags are five iLv lower. Guess I'll get a good looking one for glamour.
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>>385475580
I don't mind constant heals if I've pulled half of the dungeon in an attempt to prove how big my dick is, it's the "wiping up the last few mobs and there's no need to even heal at all but I'm going to keep throwing cure every 3 seconds" types.
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>>385467608
>O3S "clear party"
>it's a trap every fucking time
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what was his fucking problem????
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>>385476843
i dunno i skipped all the cutscenes in this game lol
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>>385477448

haha
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>not being 2.5 GCD meme even at 70 with only 627 Skill Speed as MCH
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>>385477671
>MCH
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I thought these threads were being purged. Enjoy your thread while the mods haven't noticed yet I guess.
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>>385476274
>Join a 2-chest O1 group on Tuesday
>1-shot it
>It's actually a 0 chest

This is advanced trapping.
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1-2 PLD
2-3 MNK
3-4 BLM
4-5 DRK
5-6 DRG
6-7 NIN
7-8 SAM
9-0 BRD
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>>385477983
they are being purged, hence why you don't see ffxiv in the comment or subject field.

it's a sad state of affairs when you have to make stealth video game threads on a video game board.
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Help
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>>385478460

>sub 3k

how? what class?
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>>385468263
>CEREAL AND MILK AT OUR BECK AND CALL
>HOW OUR HEART-SHAPED MARSHMELLOWS TASTE IN THE CEREAL
>WILD AND PURE AND FOREVER FREE OF GMOS
>NOW COMETH OUR MILK MAKE WAY
>TWAS A MEMORABLE BREAKFAST INDEED

Giving primals more voiced lines since Sophia was a smart idea IMO.
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>>385468263
>so much marketing and merchandise
>still no real XIV cereal(s)
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remove console players from your parties
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>>385478692
>that guy who plays on mute and can't hear the cues
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>>385479005
>on an MMO designed for consoles
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>>385478303
Well I mean, you guys could actually post about the game and discuss it instead of Avatar fagging, lalashit posting and acting like literal fags every thread. I'm sure that would sway the mods to keep your threads up. The thread is doing fine right now but it wouldn't surprise me if in 5 posts after mine, I see that trash lalashit in the gay ass ghost mount.
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>>385479005
No excuse. Try playing ffxi on the ps2 or pso on the gamecube Xbox and dream cast. Fucking mouth breathing shitters.
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>>385478208
Youkoso, kohai.
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>>385479126
Yeah man we meet in super secret parties where we all agree to have one potato shitposter nobody likes. Quit posting you actual retard.
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When the FUCK are confirmed stat weights gonna be released? Why are these autists holding out?
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>cleared my first Savage raid ever tonight
>get fucking bodied by O2S
maybe next week
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>>385479436
Well, I assume it takes a lot of test and shit.
I want them to since I'm afraid of fucking up my BIS.
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>>385475043
DRK is still the meme tank that all the edge masters play when they're not playing SAM or NIN.
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>>385479463
O2S is piss easy Anon, especially compared to O3S.
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>>385479513
>NIN
>edge masters
it's too complicated for edgelord shitters
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Have I already missed the opportunity for V2S pug groups? Or is everyone passed it now and I'll eternally be stuck with shitters?
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>>385479513
NIN and arguably SAM are difficult enough to play to weed the edgy children out, DRK is babby's first 1-2-3 rotation
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>>385479463
I wanna see the look on your face when you get to O3S.

>>385479508
It's been a month since SB released, with extra autists to help instead of dervy and his other few buttbuddies.
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>>385479540
>>385479584
o-oh
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>>385479565
You're implying that edgelord faggots care about how shit they do. They're just there for the naruto run
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>>385479683
NIN here, please take the run away, it's embarrassing.
I'm keeping the flip though
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>>385479683
but then they fuck up their mudras and drop it in frustration
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>>385479565
>too complicated
It's literally brain dead easier now though than it was before SB. They took away Blood for Blood, Internal Release, and a DoT ability which was bundled with the other. Honestly the easiest dps I've played now.
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>>385479640
It's just very mechanic heavy and require everyone to know EXACTLY what to do and work together.
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>>385479906
as long as the mudra system remains unchanged, it'll be inaccessible to shitters
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>>385479818
Client side cancer has nothing to do with complication though
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>>385480012
Er, server side, obviously
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wonder what lak and sus glow weapons are gonna give off in 4.1 like how they did with ifrit, garuda, ravana, etc

boat loads of money to be made at least
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>>385480167
They'll have to get in line. We still don't have Nidhogg or any of the warring triad
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>>385480167
Lakshmi's glow is probably going to be pink with maybe flower petals dropping off. No idea about sus
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>>385480012
t. ubisoft
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>>385480167
Sephirot on up, then Lakshmi and such in 5.0
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>>385480267
I actually have wanted one with flowers for so long. Like Ravana's was close but I wish the butterflies came out more and lasted just a tad longer.

If they ever do Yojimbo they should def do a gil theme with his weapons, like something to do with golden coins or like that
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>>385479108
>console player in your party
>can immediately tell because they move extremely awkwardly thanks to the controller and get hit by every other fucking AOE
>in load screens for years
I wish they'd drop console support already.
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>>385480326
god i hope your wrong
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>>385480469
>can immediately tell because they move extremely awkwardly thanks to the controller and get hit by every other fucking AOE
This isn't a controller problem the player is just trash
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>>385480469
>I wish they'd cut the playerbase in half
Brilliant suggestion
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>>385480512
It'd make no sense to skip on at least Primals to craft shit for.

>>385480469
That's shitters in general, the skill is showing there, not the tool.
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>>385480167
they'll probably do Warring Triad and Nidders in 4.1 then Susan, Lakers, and Shinryu's in 4.2
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>>385480625
*4 primals, since they'd be skipping Seph, Nig, Soph, and Zurvan.
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>>385480469
People moving like ass is more likely from using standard type movement than controller though
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I'm just about to do the final dungeon of the MSQ

Once i clear that, do i just go to Rising Stones to pick up Ex Susanoo/Lakishmi, and do the side quests to pick up the extra level 70 dungeons?

Where do i pick up the quest that starts Omega? And i hear Hunts are important now for Materia, do i just do the Weekly and Level 3 ones, or do them all?
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>>385480625
>>385480652
yea valid points but what the fuck are they gonna do for nidhogg? something to do with dragons or edgy red aura? pvp and palace have the second one covered.
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>>385480167
lakshmi will be lotus petals and susan's is stormclouds.
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>>385480794
probably edgy red like Estinien had
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>>385480469
>keyboard player in your party
>can immediately tell because they turn slowly and get hit by every single AOE
W O A H
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>>385480778
you'll need to beat the final trial too.

EX primals are in Kugane, Omega quest starts in Rhalgr's, I believe
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>>385480469
>mfw i play ps4, plug a keyboard in to type, and usually am either the last one standing or one of the best dps according to my friends with parsers
Playing on a console is pretty comfy desu, and just the thought of using keyboard + mouse over a good old stick and cross hotbar is weird. I dunno how you people do it.
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>>385480794
Estinien red with eyes on the weapons.
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>>385479580
People will still need their clears every week. Just try to go as soon after reset as you can. I just cleared it today and most groups I've seen have been okay with bringing a Bonus person.

If you can pull your weight and not fuck up, you should be okay.
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>>385480778
Primals are from the minstrel in Kugane. Omega is from Rhalgr's Reach

Do all the HW/SB hunts. The SB ones drop a trade in for grade VI materia, and the HW ones boost your seals which you can use to buy grade V, which are good for overmelding
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>some random shitter gets invited to the FC I'm in
>"Welcome!"
>"I fucking hate drive-by invites give me reasons why I shouldn't blacklist you all right now and maybe I'll stay"
>"lol get out"
Why did he even accept the invite? Who pissed in his cheerios? Which one of you cunts was it?
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Since we're talking about the primal weapons now, I like the weebstick for ravana but the sheathe is kinda dumb, rip.
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>>385480952
thank you very much. I forgot about the trial at the end, it's Royal Menagerie or something right? I'm guessing it's going to take place in those tombs or the grassy bit behind them? It played dramatic music when i went there earlier for the aether current.

What about Hunts? Do you just do the Weekly S Rank and Level 3 marks?
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>>385480469
Reminder that the #1 BLM in the world plays on a controller.
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I'm playing through the MSQ and I really enjoyed this trial.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCcbKY7d0dc
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>>385481072
have you ever been without an fc for any length of time? you get dozens of invites daily and it's frustrating
what im saying is, whoever sent that unsolicited invite was the one who "pissed in his cheerios" and your FC and probably you are fags
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>BRD is literally better than MCH in every way

What were they fucking thinking?
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>>385473010
I thoroughly enjoyed the Lava Sewer and Crystal Tower though the only good part of World of Darkness was the area theme that would STOP for the shitty fight music that plays in EVERY fight. Fucking Yoshi needs add in the damn combat music toggle.
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>>385480947

Legacy controls
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>>385481129

Considering all you have to do is stand in one spot while doing a simple rotation, that isn't really a feat.
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What the fuck is the standard movement type? Why would anyone use this garbage? Is this how other MMOs control?

Jesus fucking christ
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>>385481317
Crystal Tower raids have the best seamless transition between area theme and battle theme in the game, you pleb.
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My FC and I have finally beaten V3S a few days ago and plan to attack V4S tonight.
What's waiting for us?
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>>385481269
They weren't. And the problem is, if they do buff MCH in terms of damage to compensate for their lack of utility, it'll be as good as MNK, if not, even better.
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>>385481553
exdeath
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>>385481553
Life has many doors, Ed boys
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>>385481432
You mean "right click for mouse turning, a/d to turn, q/e to strafe"? It's pretty commonplace, biggest difference usually being whether a/d strafes or turns.
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>>385481631
Well, obviously, but I mean like, difficulty wise V3S was a massive step above V2S, so I'm wondering if it's the same for V4S?
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>>385481236

I can vouch for this. I get random FC invites constantly, some of them continue to send them over and over every time I decline

The only impression I get of FC's like that is "I don't give a shit who this person is I just need people in the FC" which is an instant turn off. The only worthwhile FCs are small, tight knit ones
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>>385481696
Exdeath is a gatekeeper for the real fight, like Faust has been used.
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>Playin blm today
>hit 70
>get foul
>tfw all of that burning into my brain that I should be using transpose to keep up enochian comes down to this day
>q up for expert get mhigooo
>better geared blm is my dps partner with some 320 pieces
>I'm only i290
>get into a dick measuring contest
>both big dicking dps
>go so hard we both die once pushing dps
>tfw when it all comes together and I'm within 200dps
>zenos melts and after his large attack get like only one flashy aoe move before a string of fire 4 casts renders him to ashes

I finally found my class lads it took until now but I'm glad.
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>>385481484
I really miss the more interesting mechanics from Crystal Tower raids, like having to have an alliance get eaten by the doggo in WoD
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>>385481686

It seems awkward. Feels like tank controls. Why would you want limited movement when you can just choose free movement with the legacy control type?

It baffles me. Though to be fair I don't really play MMOs and mostly play console style games
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>>385481484
I'm referring to the boss fights which are half the time you're in the raid. I'd love for all the fights to use the Bahamuts Coil music during trash but nope.
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>>385481317
>make great unique dungeon music
>hear about 30 seconds of it in total and the rest of the dungeon is the same battle music you hear in every other dungeon
Come the fuck on SE I just want to run Pharos Sirius without the fucking battle music ruining the theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLRcuojE7Pc
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>>385481617

i dont see the issue with this
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I can't beath the V2S dummy as a i319 RDM for the life of me. I always get it down to 1% and fail and I'm not sure how I can really improve my DPS
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>>385481937
Play the hard mode version. It's a light remix and doesn't stop for battle music
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>>385481937

They fixed that I'm pretty sure. Pharos Sirius has the dungeon theme throughout now

Really wish they'd give us the option of toggling off battle music in zones
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>>385481792
it actually controls better than controllers. controllers are the ones with tank controls. can't target debuffs during combat without losing control.
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>>385481792
I can definitely be awkward if you aren't used to it, don't blame you there. I just right click when I need to strafe, since I like keyboard turning for general movement across land. It doesn't sound like much but it's really nice to only need to use one hand when you're just moving from place to place without much else going on.
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>>385482041
Your melds are probably garbage. That or you're making some crucial flaw in your rotation
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>>385482185

I've melded all direct hit and crit

I use displacement/corps-a-crops on cooldown, I pop Embolden during melee phase (Should I just pop it whenever it's up?), I double weave cooldowns, and I'm pretty sure I manage mana properly. Any general tips I should know about? Clearly I'm doing something wrong
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>>385481432
Standard is how WoW controls. Most people rebind a/d to strafe though because only shitters keyboard turn
>>385482173
Controllers are nothing like tank controls it's free movement just like legacy
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>>385482443

Oh, and only I've used tier V's for melds, that might be why too
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>>385482443
>Embolden during melee phase
This is where you're fucking up, Embolden buffs magic damage for RDM.
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>>385482835
Enchanted melee combo is magic damage.
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Is it normal that I can't beat constantly the V4S dummy ilvl 323 as a SAM without using food + infusion?
If I don't and get fucked by RNG I keep losing.
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>>385482835
this has to be bait or youre just the average retard rdm
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>>385482835
Anon, I have some bad news for you.
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>>385482985
I've gotten confused on that then, nevermind, disregard.
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>>385482185
What are the proper melds for reds?
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>>385482767
>Missing 500 points of secondary stats
Gee, yeah, MAYBE
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>>385470386
>"raitu"
>not "raito"
gaijin pls go
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How does materia work exactly?

I'm used to WoW where you just put the gem in the slot and it gives +X stat sometimes with a bonus for colour matching or something

But i've seen people talking about stuff like Overmelding, and sometimes my materia seems to add +0?
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>>385483257
>baited the weeb out
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>He doesn't have the God of war title
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>>385481236
>FC-less for weeks
>0 total invite
I-I dont need friends anyway
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>>385483415
how? short of being on busy status literally all the time i cant see how that would be true
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Is a low percentile clear truly worse than the lack of a clear?
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>>385483338
It's basically the same with some caveats.
Gear has a limit as to how much of a particular stat it can have on it. So if your gear is already maxxed on Crit and you try to meld a Crit materia on it, it won't give anything, it'll just say +0.

Overmelding is only available on crafted gear and gear for crafters/gatherers. It lets you meld materia beyond the base number of materia slots on the piece of gear (up to a max of 5), with a chance that the meld will fail and you'll lose the materia. So if you get a crafted gear piece with 1 materia slot, you can meld to that 1 slot guaranteed, and then meld up to 4 additional materia with a gradually decreasing chance of success.
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>>385483338
Materia have a stat cap on each piece of armor, so melds follow a priority system based on what you can meld for that piece.

Overmelding is melding past its intended cap. If a chest has two slots, you can over meld up to 3 extra, for a total of 5. Keep in mind Grade VI cannot be used for overmeld.
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>>385483338
You can't add the primary stat because they're already capped. Overmelding is only a thing crafters/gatherers have to worry about
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>>385483338
Materia gives +X to a stat.
Overmelding lets you meld more materia over the usual amount you can slot, with a chance to fail and lose the materia.
If your materia is adding no/very little of a stat to an item, said item probably already gives that stat. On the materia melding screen, you can see the potential stat caps of the item at the bottom. If it gives Intelligence +60 normally, it'll likely be at Intelligence +60/60 already, meaning you won't get anything from trying to meld it.
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>>385483576
only to autists
ignore /v/ autists and get your grey percentile clear then work on it
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>>385483576
yes because not having a clear doesnt imply you are bad and got carried like a low percentile does. clearing depends on 7 others, your percentile depends on you.
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>>385483547
No idea. Been afking in rhalgr reach too.
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>>385483743
You won't get any random FC invites in Rhalgr's Reach

The kind of people who send them hang out in all of the main towns hoping to snatch up FC-less new players, primarily Gridania from my experience
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>have killed Lakshmi 80 times
>6 dogs dropped all shit lots everytime with someone getting a 97/98 each time

i sure hope i can trade 99 in 4.1 but i'm never dealing with this shit again i dont know how people do this
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>>385483815
Why would you lie
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I know I was numerically the least worst DPS here but why are you even commending me instead of the tank? I didn't even dodge AoEs well fuck
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>>385483894
Autism.
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Is BLM aoe still nothing but Fire 2 and hoping for TC procs? Is it still 3+ enemies to bother doing aoe for every job?
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New PVP sets to buy when, I need something to spend all these marks on.
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>>385484905
Desynth.
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>>385484981
I dont do any crafting.
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>>385472802
None. Genji wep is BiS all classes.
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>>385485073
get fukt
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who was in the wrong here?
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>only the Ala Mhigan Rod as spell speed on it
YOSHI I SWEAR TO GOD PUT SPELL SPEED ON MY WEAPONS
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>>385485338
Respect the content
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>get Zurvan in trial roulette
God Samurai plays like fucking ass in this fight. It's just all kinds of shit at level 60 to start with and then that fuck jumps every time I Meikyo or when I need one more attack to reach an Iaijitsu so I have to start over and do three.
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So, from what I understood, around 900 sks would be the break point for a SAM who use the 1 sen opener (I use it mostly because my party doesn't run a NIN).

Do you guys think this set is a good idea to go with?
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/122U1


Also
>Run A3S earlier for glamour
>Mfw I did a 47k direct hit crit midare on Pepsiman
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>Those who leave their character parked all day near a summoning bell to avoid getting kicked.

Why?
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Do Canels drop some of the rare Aquapolis shit?
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>>385485616
SAM play like shit until 62 and 68.
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>>385485653
I saw one Lala in the same place at Sapphire Avenue Exchange for 3+ days. My server never has a queue of more than like 20 people.
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>>385485653
MUH CHATLOG
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>>385485653
Maybe he's like me and he's just leveling his retainers?
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>>385485874
All I do nowadays is stand in front of my summoning bell and level my botany retainer
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>>385484842
BLM aoe is amazing after 67 now, double flare without convert or a pot and foul
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>>385481783
welcome to the club brother
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>Squadron mission has massive mental requirement and fuck all tactical
>Affinity: Lancer
Are you trying to piss me off
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I hate it when warriors switch to deliverance when they big pull. I want to DPS too fags
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i shit on this game a lot but i just did Shinryu and holy fuck that was an awesome fight
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>tfw DRK is so unfun and trash now
k
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>>385485616
you're just bad at SAM if you use your cooldowns right as the boss telegraphs his phase jump attacks.
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>>385487021
Right?
I'm glad that SE refused to nerf it.
It's fucking Shinryu goddammit
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>>385486107
SB blm is probably the most fun caster dps and arguably dps to me but I'm worried about more movement heavy fights. I might do the stupid thing and queue up for shinryu just to git Gud.
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>>385487376
Susano EX kinda shat on BLM
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>>385487316
yeah i think they got it right.

The mechanics are enough to make it feel hectic, but nothing confusing that scrubs cant quickly grasp.

The scale and scope of it was fantastic too.

Fucking Lyse standing around like she did fucking anything now, giving speeches and shit. So far i think i've seen her take out some imperial guards and guard a few civvies, whine a lot, then put on a prostitute outfit and now she's acting like a Queen.

Fuck that, Rauhbaun for Mhigger king
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>>385487376
Just gotta plan around the fight, need to know it a good amount is all.

If it's very very movement heavy then yeah you're fucked, swap to RDM for that shit.
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>>385487112
>unfun
Maybe, but that's a pretty subjective topic
>trash
they're in a good place. All the tanks are pretty par at the moment with PLD having a slight advantage over the other two.
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>>385487558
In my opinion, for prog DRK is clearly superior to WAR but when it will come to weekly farm parties, WAR will probably be taken over it.
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why did they have to make the two villains minions so qt?

i just want to hug Yotsuyu and Fordola and tell them everything will be ok.

Ok maybe not Fordola, she's a bit cunty, but she's cute.
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>>385487136
Fuck off, it's obvious you don't know anything about the fight or job mechanics
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>>385487697
Yotsuyu had a hard life
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>>385487448
That's for later. Now that is going to be a test I'll fight him too when I feel good enough. I beat him tons of times as heal and tank.

>>385487503
I need to save triple for movement too but yeah. I would rather stay blm though.
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O3S is absolute cancer, holy shit. I haven't hated a fight this much since A3S prog. Fuck everything about it.
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>>385487974
Not that bad compared to PEPSIMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
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>>385487974
What's wrong with it?
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>>385487974
Then why do it? Remember that you're supposed to enjoy it
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>>385485740
What's good about Hagakure? I've never felt the need to use it.
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>>385488186
Nigga, I hope you're not fucking serious.
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>>385488082
Everything. Phase transitions are cancer, library phase is cancer, final phase is terminal cancer, adds smashing the OT for over half his health constantly is cancer, Hali's absurd crit rate is cancer, it's all just cancer.
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>>385488186
you use it in your opener to get a buffed dot up very quickly.

other than that i dont know really. maybe to get Guren out quickly
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>>385488327
2.4 Shintens are also better than Midare
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>>385488071
>my best friend in the game cleared pepsiman while he was relevant
>im just a little babby shitter but she raids with me now anyway
i'm so proud of her
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M'naago was the best thing to come out of this expansion

Absolute top qt and actually gets shit done.

Genuinely more useful to have around than Lyse
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>>385488186
4 shinten > Midare
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>>385488458
>>385488365
Ah, that's no fun.
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>>385488327
Using Hagakure in your opener has either zero or negative effect on getting your DoT up quickly, where the fuck do you people come from
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>>385488572
nigga
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>>385488395
Get your blacksmith leveled with kupo nuts you homo

>>385488515
No fun allowed, autism abound
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>>385488292
>Phase transitions are cancer
??
>library phase is cancer
Not really? It require just some communication with your party before hand and everyone need to work together.
>final phase is terminal cancer
I like how random it is, you never know what will happen, it's very exciting.
>adds smashing the OT for over half his health constantly is cancer
DPS harder you cunt.
>Hali's absurd crit rate is cancer
Makes healing more exciting.
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>>385488572
BUFFED DoT, you dummy
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>>385477836
It's not fucking fair. MCH was perfectly find at the end of HW and they fucked the job like how BRD got fucked with MCHs introduction. You just cant win.
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>>385488515
Well, you can keep spamming midares all you want, but don't feel bad when a SAM will queue with you and exterminate your ass in DPS.
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>>385488572
it gives you the Kenki to buff it.

anon you're not seriously putting up unbuffed DoTs are you
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>>385488624
why?
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>>385488683
>>385488732
Literally neither of you have played Samurai over level 62
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>>385488729
not him

so how does it work then? Should i be building up to 3 Sen and using Hagakure every time it's off CD?

and then using Shinten just whenever between attacks?
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>>385488810
>he puts up un-buffed Higanbananas
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Whenever I log in I realize I'm not having any fun and question what the point of doing the exact same thing over and over is.
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>>385488831
Hagakure is worth using whether you have one Sen, two Sen or three Sen. 3 Sen is obviously the best usage but 1/2 are almost always worth 1+ extra Shinten.
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>>385488934
just unsub for a bit if you're not having fun
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>>385488942
Yeah but if i see it's coming off cooldown i should start building it up and then use it on 3 every time?

I'll start working it into my rotation, thanks. I literally just hit 70 so still getting good

i just found out Gosestsu and Yotsu are alive. I'm so happy
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>>385488979
My sub runs out in 7 days, I don't plan on resubbing for awhile.
I'm not sure what it is, but for example, I could do the exact same thing over and over again in WoW and have some fun, but in FFXIV it seems pointless. I think that's because the main thing I enjoy about FFXIV is the story and setpieces, whereas WoW has always been a massive MMO grindfest. It could also be I'm just not in the mood for MMOs right now, you know what I mean?
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>>385489142
I know what you mean, MMO fatigue is very real
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>>385488292
Hali's buster is a guaranteed crit
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>>385489193
Honestly I just want some grand RPG to get into, like something as long as Persona 5 or Yakuza, but I've already played everything. I just want some vidya to play, man.
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>>385478692
every voiced boss in any mmo ever just says shit that makes no sense

I love it.
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>>385489332
Div OS 2 is coming out in a month or two, I think
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>>385489386
really didn't like the first one much
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>>385488292
>i'm not shit, it's just cancer :(
Get fucking good you shitter.
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>>385488831
Yep.
Hagakure is basically another DPS boost for you, and you want to use it as soon as it's up.
So let's say that you just used Yukikaze and there's around 6-7sec on Hagakure, you want to use Hakaze > Shifu > Hagakure > Kasha > Shinten > Hakaze > Shinten > Jinpu > Shinten > Gekko > Hakaze > Yukikaze > Kaiten > Midare (depending of your original kenki amount, you may want to use only 3 shinten)

Keep in mind that's the ideal situation, you may also use it at 1 or 2 sec to use Guren quickly or put your dot up immediately.
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at what point do I feel bad about all these failed attempts at a meld?
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>>385489518
Not your melds, so who cares.
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>>385478692
I read it in his voice, you deserve the (You)
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>>385488908
You never need to do anything but hit your positional to Kaiten you mouthbreather.
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>>385489332
go play tales of vesperia, ps3 version is 100+ hours right there
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best way to level a healer (second job) from 63 to 70 that isn't pvp?
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>>385489496
I vaguely suspect that Hagakure was not intended as a DPS-boost by the designers. If you compare potency for potency, Kaiten+Midare is worth more damage and it's only after you account for the opportunity cost of it requiring a GCD that Shinten actually works out to be better.
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>>385478692
>WILD AND PURE AND FOREVER FREE OF GMOS
Mom get off Facebook, GMOs are fine
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>>385489813
dungeon spam
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>>385489813
dungeons
dungeons are the best for every job, only sucks as a DPS because queues
they give so much XP
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How do I AoE on BRD?
I get that Ballad is the ideal song, but do I windbite + venomous everything and iron jaw them back up?
Do I just spread windbite?
Do I windbite + venomous one and spam quick nock?

I don't get this shit every other jobs AoE is braindead
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>>385489940
spread windbite only
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>>385489940
Puts windbite on every mob
Spam your aoe and use the ogcd aoe as soon as it pop up
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>>385489349
>says shit that makes no sense
But all of Susano-o's quotes are relevant to the mechanics they're attached to. Why else do you think he does shit like talk about earth and stone being at his command and then make a bunch of rock jails?
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>>385489496
7 seconds is enough time to do 3 weapon skills.
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>>385490064
>"Hark YOU for the tumultuous heavens"
>YOU move if you get lightning
>"Now cometh OUR part! Make way!"
>it's OUR turn to move if you get lightning
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>>385487697
>ywn live in a universe where you grew up with Fordola without Garlean occupation
>ywn spend your youth wrestling, training to be fighters and exploring the lowlands of Gyr Abania with her
>ywn see her happy and free spirited
>ywn hug- while she tells you how fortunate to have had you as a lifelong friend
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>>385489858
>>385489904
50/60 roulette and then highest available right?
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>>385490162
>THE SEAS PART FOR WE ALONE
>get in the middle, dummy
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>>385490094
Not if you're dumb enough to follow the "hurrdurr no skill speed" set.
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>>385490214
She's Mhigan, she would have grown up to be a nasty cunt anyway.
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>hard drive connection is ever so slightly flaky
>disconnects during V1.0 Normal
>suddenly only player animations that play are running and my combo opener
>finish the fight this way
>can't open loot screen
>BSoD
Cool
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>>385489968
>>385490004
Why only windbite?
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>>385490306
Did you ever look at the potency of your dots?
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>>385490306
more damage, not wasting GCDs on venomous when you could be spreading more dots and Quick Nocking
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>>385490276
Rauhbaun is Mhigan and he's a bro though
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>>385490251
Leveling then highest available.
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>>385490346
>>385490354
What about songs? Is Paeon useless?
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>>385490509
Do you need to have everything spoonfed to you? Do you ever bother to read your skills and find out the best way to use them yourself?
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>>385490265
Samurai's base GCD with Shifu up is 2.25s man, even with no skill speed you're well under 7 seconds.
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>>385490509
For aoes, your song rotation is Mage's ballad > Paeon > Minuet
Guess why?
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>>385490596

bard here. paeon is bad for aoe as your tp disappears too fast
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>>385490306
>>385490509
stop following my question about AoE with stupid questions please you're damaging my anonymous reputation
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I love this fucker. I wish to play a quest chain where he is the MC and I just follow him around.
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>>385490653
Suuuuure bob
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>>385490653
no
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>>385490640
You have invigorate and Tactician for a reason.
Heck, you can even get goaded too.
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>>385490674
Anon, I...
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>mfw even with buffs, DRG just isn't very fun
I really can't stand Life of the Dragon. There goes my main of three years, I guess.

At least BRD is on point.
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>>385490837
We all know that feel.
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>>385490837
It's a good thing I was only playing DRG to (hopefully) have gear for SAM anyway.
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>>385490674
He's the best. You should probably get out of here before something gets spoiled, though.
>>
I don't play ffxiv do they have the bosses from over games in this. I saw where ex death was a boss
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>>385491130
It's a big game of fanservice for FF fans, so yes it'll have bosses/enemies from other games, but usually done fine.
Original content might come in 5.0/6.0 since the director does want to do it.
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>>385491130
It has a fucking ton of FF fanservice.
Ultima Weapon, Cloud of Darkness, Gilgamesh, Ultros, Shiva, Ramuh, Ifrit, etc, etc, etc.
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>>385474231
>>385474174
>>385468837
There is literally nothing fun about the new braindead babby mode PvP
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>>385490837
>use geirkogoseil at 15s
>can only nastrond 2 times
>take 4 or 5 jumps to do
What an amazing mechanic
>>
>>385491130

of the primals, there's only two original ones. coincidentally, those two are the best ones
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>>385490367
He's like the only good one.
A true credit to his people.
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>>385491323
>nastrond doesn't even hit hard
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>>385474410
>the entire top is ranged DPS
balance :^) skillful pvp :^) totally not a dumbed down piece of shit ASSFAGGOTS (cancer genre) imitation attempt
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>sluts coming up to me for ERP all the time
>I just want someone nice to EB and relax with
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>>385491279
It's only fucking fan service. The only original thing FFXIV has done is Au Ra, and they are the worst part of the game.
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>>385491450
>a minute and a half for a little over 900 potency
>it looks and sounds less impressive than Geirskogul
Why?
>>
>try to quickly sell my Wind-up Khloe by undercutting the competition
>it doesn't sell because other people undercut me
I guess I deserve this.
>>
>>385491529
there's also Ravana and Susano
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>>385491529
>the worst part of the game
Azim Steppe was the best part of the whole expansion MSQ.
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>>385491486
>SE adds 500 health to melee
Yep, that should do the trick
>>
>>385491532
>>385491450
What if Nastrond was 450-500 Potency?
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>>385489047
It's literally whatever you have when it comes off CD. Although you'll find that if your SS is too high oyu'll have to do a GCD or two after getting your third sen in order to use hagakure so just be aware of that. I know it's tempting to midare anyway but 300*4 potency is better than 1080
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>>385491528
>tfw no sluts come up to me to erp
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>>385491585
Maybe
Shame SE only ever buffs by 20 potency at a time
>>
How do I make money fishing?
>>
How would you rework Life of the Dragon?
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>>385491528
If you're talking about "finding love", you won't find anything genuine online.
Even when it feels like you've found it, you haven't.
Your best bet is to socialize in real life with some introverted looking girls, at school or work, try to get on some dates with them, and pray that they're interested in MMOs enough to join you.
Then you'll have your perfect EB. Otherwise, prepare for stupid two-faced online drama bullshit, where you constantly get cheated on because the nature of the platform encourages it.
Take my words to heart, friend. I can 100% guarantee you will be better off for it. Stable, purely online relationships don't exist, and the sooner you realize this, the sooner you'll be happy.
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>>385491810
Sell all your fish for 100 gil a piece until you can afford mining or botany equipment.
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>>385491810

fish up fish that are for leves
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What is this new adjust meme?
Tank adjust
Healer adjust
dps adjust
>>
>>385492260
When somebody fucks up a mechanic, sometimes you can save it by having somebody adjust to the mistake.
For example, someone with a stack marker doesn't make it to the place they're supposed to stand with the marker. The rest of the group can then adjust to go to that person's position instead of the normal stack location.
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>>385491890
>Remove mirage dive and just have jumps give eyes directly. Add lost damage to other skills
>Require only 3 eyes to get into lotd so you get your first one 30s in and then every minute after that
>If you use a jump during lotd it extends it by 10s so you aren't just wasting an eye proc
>>
>>385491890
If you need more than one sentence to explain how a skill works in a tooltip, you've already fucked up.

I knew SB Dragoon was going to be a shitshow before it even launched.
>>
>>385491890

make it so dragonfire dive grants dive ready, and make it only require 3 eyes total

that way you can realistcally use nastrond in an opener
>>
So is AST or WHM more fun? Thinking of either of them or BLM once I finish leveling my current "alt"
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>>385491890
Jumps should be like doomfist's ult. You actually go in the air and jump down when you want.
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>>385492682
I like WHM because everything heals for so fucking much, but the card mechanic for AST makes you feel a bit more involved. Also shields are neat.
>>
>>385492703
That means you should have a free card dodging AoEs.
I guess you could take reduced damage when on the air, or the jump be interrupted by damage.
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>>385491486
Well, I can reach top damage as a SAM.
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>They still, STILL can't fucking figure out how to balance tanks
God fucking dammit this should NOT be fucking hard there ARE THREE FUCKING TANKS HOLY SHIT JESUS FUCK HOW IS THIS STILL A PROBLEM YEARS LATER YOU STUPID FUCKS KEEP FUCKING UP THE SIMPLEST SHIT ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS MAKE PALADIN STOP SUCKING COCKS STOP BREAKING WHAT WORKS JESUS FUCK
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>>385492768
Yeah that's what was making me indecisive; big dick heals and toys to play around with both seem fun. I have a SCH but I abandoned that shortly before SB, half due to SB half due to general boredom
>dot dot dot bane wow adl the DPS standing in AoE
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>>385492682
AST throws up shields and buffs the shit out of people.

WHM isn't quite as strong but the playstyle can be interesting. You can really push your personal DPS if you figure out how to use your skills correctly.
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>>385492871
Tanks have been the most balanced they've ever been, if WARs get what they want (Inner Release and Unchained being seperate CDs) then it'll be another HW fuckup.
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>>385492871
someone already did the theorycrafting and found out that all 3 tanks do identical damage in 10 minute fights. it's just a matter of which armor/skills you like better.
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>>385492871
So you're saying we shouldn't give one tank all of the DPS, Utility, and Defensive CDs?
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>>385492871
rip dark knight, you used to be fun
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>>385492871
Tanks are perfectly balanced now though, the only issue now is war having no utility.
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>>385493068
If all three tanks do identical damage, why wouldn't you just always take PLD for the utility they provide?

I don't have a stake in the tank debate,
just playing devil's advocate.
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>Finish the SB story
>Pick up the quest to unlock the new Stone Sky Sea; only one dummy currently available, the Menagerie one
>wipe @11%, despite being 10iLvs above the minimum
fug

Is there something I'm missing about playing NIN?
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>>385493003
Oh yeah I forgot to mention: As long as you don't die WHM's have near infinite mana with the changes to refresh and thin air. Thin air + holy spam in dungeons is great.
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>>385493046

What's wrong about making them separate cooldowns? It's hard to justify using unchained at 70 unless you don't plan to leave tank stance for a long time.
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>>385493187
PLD hardly has useful utility outside of situational skills. Their cooldowns are too long to be worthy of bringing them over others exclusively.

It would make more sense to bring a DRK over a PLD actually because Darkest of Night allows some sick strats.
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>>385492682
Everything WHM does does so much damage or healing and the stun on Holy makes dungeons a breeze if you're into that
WHM gets my vote, it's incredibly satisfying to play
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>>385493210
For what it's worth I hate spamming and like having a lot of things to play around with. Also I'm a retard who uses a controller if this is relevant to anything; hasn't been a problem on my SCH but then again I only got that to about 50.
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>>385492682
WHM can get away with a lot of stupid shit in dungeons if you have a tank you can trust to play well.

I like AST a bit more when playing with randoms and potential shitters.
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Ok so ARR's post-game primals were mostly primals that were established to exist long before we actually fought them and HW's primals were hinted at as early as 3.0.

What are Stormblood's primals supposed to be? Where are they supposed to be?
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>>385493115

It's possible that when they rework Shake it Off in 3.1 they might turn into a more utility type ability, but that's just wishful thinking.
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>>385493313
In that case you'll probably like AST more; WHM doesn't have much in terms of varied gameplay imo, especially since you can ignore the lily mechanic.
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>>385493198
Everything, stop being shit
6th GCD trick is your most important opener but for an SSS dummy you'd use 5th
Ninki rotation is TCJ > Baka > Frog > Baka > repeat
After your first TCJ you want TCJ to set up your TAs, DWaD/Kassatsu go in every TA, Duality goes on CD
Make sure you're getting 2 of SF/AE in every TA
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>>385493461
Alright thanks. Also AST has the nicest looking job icon
Who the fuck gave MNK 3 lines and called it a day
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>>385493496
>TA before combo starts
dumb
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>>385493534
Make a fist and look at it
MNK icon is great, fuck off
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>>385493216
Because he's fucking retarded and doesn't understand the job in the slightest, or is just spiteful because now the tables are reversed and the other two tanks are shit instead of PLD.

>>385493307
>It would make more sense to bring a DRK over a PLD actually because Darkest of Night allows some sick strats.
Again, another fucking retard who hasn't actually played the job. There's really not much strategy behind TBN, it's just a lot of educated guesswork and popping it for the obvious tankbusters. You pop TBN hoping to catch two autoattacks, if you don't guess the timing properly you just wasted half your MP, if you do get it right you gain a miniscule amount of extra DPS. This ability accounts for 100% of your fluff damage, as you have no short cooldown mitigation free, making it a headache for healers and the player alike with the retarded fluctuations of their health.
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>>385493003
I like WHM since the sheer amount of healing gives you quite a bit of breathing room to do damage. Knowing that you can hit the panic button and swiftcast cure 3 whenever anything gets dicey and basically be good to go is a nice feeling. Also the ridiculous mana pool along with mana regen skills means you have an easier time with tanks who think their dick is bigger than it actually is. If your only recourse is to cast Cure 2 constantly on a tank to keep him alive then you still have a hard time limit until you go oom and he dies, but that limit is pretty generous.
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>>385474875
Drop tank stance and put this bitch to WORK. Healer can keep healing, you can dish out damage, dps is doing their regular thing without a care in the world, everyone wins.
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>>385493606
>if you don't guess the timing properly
what do you mean "guess"? every fucking attack in this game is 100% scripted. you can see it coming before it happens. knowing how to optimize your tank swaps and blackest knight is how you see those top parses.
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>>385493585
TA goes where it goes to catch your Duality AE into TCJ'd Fuma and Raiton, wears off before Suiton
Stop acting like you have any clue what you're talking about
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>>385493105
>Scourge
>Low Blows
>Reprisal
>Dark Passenger
>Delirium

Like tears in the rain.

There's been quite a few requests from the JP community to return Scourge as an alternate combo finisher similar to Goring Blade; I'm curious if SE will cave and bring it back, or if we'll be stuck with a 1-2-3 rotation until the next expansion.
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>>385493589
If that's seriously what the icon was based on then fair enough
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>>385493534
AST also has cooler animations, but that may be because I play WHM more than AST. Gravity is so damn pretty + the sound effect is much more satisfying then holy's "bwahhhh CHINK"
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>it's another "he was only pretending to be dead" cutscene, retroactively ruining any impact it might have had
This shit needs to stop. At least they had the decency to let Haurchefant rest.
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>>385493307
>hardly has useful utility

>cover
>divine veil
>passage of arms
>clemency
>intervention
>hallowed ground

PLD has the most utility of any tank and if you think otherwise you're thinking way too small when you play it. Blackest Knight is an amazing skill but Intervention has the potential to absorb more damage, and DRK doesn't have an answer to any of the party-wide mitigation utilities PLD has.
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Was it kino?
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>>385493825
I don't mind it for Gosetsu because surviving everything despite having a death wish seems to be his thing.
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>>385493754
You TA before Shadow Fang so you get buffed SF and Duality AE in the same TA
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>>385493825
something something yotsuyu redemption arc
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>>385493737
I'm talking about in general. You're popping TBN on the gamble that it's going to catch two autoattacks, a number of factors are involved with this up to and including server latency, so it's more like highly educated guesswork. Despite being the thing that defines the top percent of dark knights from the lower percentile, it's not nearly a big enough difference to justify the headache involved with the playstyle.

It's annoying for the tank who has to roll the dice every 15 seconds hoping for a payout, and annoying for the healers who have to deal with his health jumping up and down constantly because TBN is a shield and not actual mitigation.

Obviously popping it for tankbusters is a no-brainer, but it's all the stuff in-between that's cancer.
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>>385493914
not even close fuck off with this shitty meme
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>>385467608
I always feel compelled to try this game since its cock sucked so much on /v/ but I know it's just going to be another dumb theme park MMO with shitty mechanics everywhere.
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>>385493914
Zenos was fun.
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>>385493962
It has a free trial, what have you got to lose?

Just start with Pugilist or something instead of Gladiator or Lancer and you'll be fine.
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>>385493962
There's a free trial until 35, go try it instead of parroting contrarian retards who shit on games to be popular
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>>385493496
>>385493754
Thanks. Although
>Raiton
Huh. I guess the guy on here who said that Fuma>Katon>Doton for TCJ was higher DPS than F>R>S was full of shit then.
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>>385493962
ok
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>>385493956
Get this hothead outta here
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>>385494047
the only guy who's full of shit is the guy you're responding to
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>>385494047
>Fuma>Katon>Doton
What the FUCK
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>>385493198
This is the one you should follow, fuck everyone else in the raid.
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>>385493941
No, this is why your damage is bad
If you're actually using TA before SF you're using it way too soon for anyone in your group to make good use of it, and you're opting out of buffing your TCJ Fuma and Raiton (480 and 720 potency)
Stop telling new players to form bad habits when you don't know what you're talking about

>>385494047
Yes, he's dumb
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>>385493849
name 1 time that you must use cover
name 1 time where intervention ever saved a wipe
name 1 time passage of arms is used other than for phase changes the healers can obviously heal through
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how to mak good toon in this game?
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>>385494271
wat
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>>385494168
Absolute heresy go play SAM if you want greedy personal DPS
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>>385493606
>This ability accounts for 100% of your fluff damage, as you have no short cooldown mitigation free
Do you want to try that in English
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>>385494321
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>>385494258
You're missing the point. PLD utility means your party takes less damage, which means there's less to heal, which means you're spending more time pushing DPS.

At a minimum, you're saving the tanks a few more seconds out of tank stance and the healers a few more seconds of DPS. It adds up.
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>level 45 SCH
>actually enjoying healing for once in an mmo
>DRK tank decided to go big dick and pull 3 packs
>I don't even have my Aether big heals
>trying to keep this fucker up with Adol and Physik
>best I can do is drop the AoE shield, throw Eos into rouse, Eye for an Eye, and spam heals on him
>he blows up
>has the gall to make a snide comment about healers attracting bads lately

Well I dunno mr fuckwit maybe don't go balls deep on the healer class that doesn't have big heals? I can't exactly blame him too much though, it's stupid that tanks get used to certain healer kits but when they scale down healers lose certain spells and they probably don't keep track of it. I'm sure a WHM wouldn't have had a problem.

Still loving my SCH though. I really want my aether heals asap. When the fuck do I use Selene in a group? Whispering Wind on Eos is a fucking godsend how can you live without that?
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>>385476843
what sidequest is this from?
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>>385494168
Can someone please make the NIN icons look like something not made for a 2005 MMO alpha
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>>385493756
I guess Yoshi decided to remove any interaction with Parry than try to balance around it. I think it is okay the idea.
Also, Sourge as a finisher sounds fine but it is basically Goring Blade.

Also, Shadow Wall is kind of shit as it is with it long ass CD. Maybe if used with Dark Arts the CD could be cut in half? That could work, right?
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>>385494431
>implying you can DPS during phase changes
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>>385493307
>Their cooldowns are too long to be worthy of bringing them over others exclusively.
Bull-fucking-shit. First of all, their passive mitigation alone blows WAR or DRK out of the water with how strong blocking is now. With sheltron, they have ~20% damage reduction for tankbusters on-demand that also restores MP and procs ANOTHER damage ability that's oGCD.

Cover is highly situational, but is good enough to justify having. Intervention is very powerful and has no opportunity cost. Clemency is another situational ability since it's not your job, but it's just another ability in paladin's kit that can potentially mean the difference between a wipe and a clear. Divine Veil is raid-wide mitigation, again with zero opportunity cost. Passage of Arms is also situational, but extremely strong in this situations (O2S comes to mind).

Combine this with the fact that it has the simplest rotation and does comparable DPS, and you have objectively the best tank bar-fucking-none.

>>385494332
Dark Knight doesn't have an answer to all of the non-tankbuster damage it eats except for The Blackest Night. Shadow Wall has too short of a duration and too long of a cooldown to use for anything but tank-busters, and Rampart is needed for when a tankbuster is incoming and Shadow Wall is on cooldown. Dark Mind has fallen off hard, and there's no longer any reason to use it with Dark Arts as it costs way too much for too little return.
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>>385493756
I don't miss old DRK at all. It's better now.
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>>385494525
there's more raid-wide damage outside of phase changes, you fucking maroon
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>>385494431
>PLD utility means your party takes less damage
during phase changes
>which means there's less to heal
during phase changes
>which means you're spending more time pushing DPS.
not really because you can't attack INVULNERABLE bosses.
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What if we tanked Exdeath pointing inwards with his entire rear covered by a black hole

WHAT IF
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>>385494047
Read this guide of autism
Doton > Suiton ender with TCJ
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UfWHBn61fleUEkAwY-6W-OJ__gbsqLreq_fOd05ImcI/edit#heading=h.rdlijmubbdbs
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>>385494634
Explain to me how the PLD not attacking at all improves DPS
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>>385494258
>name one time a utility was 100% needed
You don't understand what utilities are.
There was never a time where TBN was 100% needed if everyone is doing their job.
It is a utility for helping your party survive better or do more damage.
BRDs and MCHs have no gap closer, and so they lose a good amount of DPS on the knockback from Exdeath in O4S. Using Tempered Will and Cover on them will keep them from getting pushed back, and increases their DPS.
A fully buffed Intervention will let the MT in O4S survive the double Thunder tankbuster with no tankswap needed, increasing your own DPS.
Passage of Arms reduces damage on phase changes, meaning less healing casts from healers, meaning more MP for them to use to DPS.

Like I said, if you don't think these utilities are significant, you think too small and shouldn't be playing the job in the first place. These small forms of help add up to a huge partywide DPS and survivability increase that can mean the difference between clearing and hitting enrage/wiping.
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>>385494467
>enjoying SCH in it's current state

It's a shame you never got to experience it before Stormblood took it out behind the stables and shot it

You use Selene on easy shit basically, or if you dont need a lot of healing. What you're doing sounds fine, if you have Eos' 4th skill yet, that increases your healing done too.

But if the tank isn't using CD's correctly for 3 packs then you're going to be fucked anyway. Good thing they removed Virus and made Adlo cost a billion mana :^)
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>>385493408
There's not really much foreshadowing, SB was pretty much entirely self contained, with the only future stuff teased being Yotsuyu and Ala Mhigan reconstruction (which probably means Imperial reinvasion)
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Judge tank when?
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>>385494662
>dripping blades affects magic damage
I fucking knew it
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>>385494715
Because shit like Divine Veil and Intervention are OGCD and are both extremely strong defensive utility in and of themselves.
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>tfw you stumble upon an under-supplied market of goods that are easy for you to HQ
Best feeling
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So did blizzjanny finally decide he'll allow FF14 threads?
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>>385494750
How would that work, anon? Do you have any ideas?
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>>385494750
If they introduce another tank right now I will fucking riot. They can't even get the three we already have right.
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>>385494724
>There was never a time where TBN was 100% needed if everyone is doing their job.
you would still use blackest night for the blood gauge bonus.
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>>385494784
How are those Passage of Arms
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>>385494809
I think he was making his monthly hotpocket run today because the board was flooded with far more waifu garbage and miscellaneous shitposting than usual
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>>385494871
Still got 2 year bro
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>>385494750
What is Blue Mage was a tank?
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>>385494871
You'll literally never be happy no matter what they do so go ahead and riot ya little bitch.
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>>385494947
*what if
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>get Fire III mark
>healers keep running towards me
>Monk with another Fire III mark runs towards me
I'm not understanding this hip new strategy
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>>385494467
>I'm sure a WHM wouldn't have had a problem.
WHM does have a problem when the tank decides to pull half the dungeon, just a different one. Keeping the tank alive by itself is almost never a problem, it's just a matter of how long you can keep it up. Instead of hoping the tank won't take on something you can't heal through you're hoping the dps can thin the herd before you run out of mp. And then you pray to whatever god you see fit that the tank doesn't do it again before you have enough time to regain even half of your mp.
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>>385494975
Not an argument.

>>385494880
Because they're not limited to phase-changes like PoA is.
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>>385494947
BLU tank and DNC healer for next expansion.

Spellblade Melee Magic DPS for no reason at all at some later date.
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What's the fastest way to level a tank?
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>>385494809
they only delete ff14 threads if you blatantly mention it in the comment or subject section. they don't check filenames.
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>>385495042
WHM is great when you have a competent party, but it's not one of the better healing jobs for carrying a bad group.
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>>385495159
Spamming dungeons. Insta queues all day.
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>>385495159
Dungeons you faggot.
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>>385494662
His math is straight up wrong
Fuma + Raiton + Suiton = 780
Fuma + Katon + Doton = 660
Doton is 240 potency, if it somehow is the only non-fuma ninjutsu to benefit from dripping blades it gains 20% bumping it up to 288 potency, so 708
How is this even close?
If you try to justify TA after benefiting Doton ticks that's even worse because you could've just set up TA with Fuma > Raiton > Suiton, so what the fuck is this dude on
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>>385495165
Where were you last weekend? They were even deleting threads about FF5
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>>385493962
Are threads where people aren't just constantly shitting on the game they're playing really sucking its cock to you? It's not for everyone, if you don't think you'll like it, don't play it, simple as that. If you want to try and confirm, there's a free trial. Not everything has to be an extreme case of perfect best game ever or horrible shit /v/ lied to me oh no
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>>385495159
based on EXP rates:

main story quests > level roulette bonus of the day > main scenario roulette bonus of the day > level 50/60 dungeon roulette bonus of the day > spam highest level dungeon > palace of the dead > pvp
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>>385495239
that's because people were reporting the threads for being /vg/ stealth generals instead of talking about FF5
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>>385494741
>Adlo cost a billion mana :^)
I never played before so I don't get this issue. I almost never have mana issues. Between Energy Drains and that one refresh skill I don't think even in the most oh shit moments I have gone below 40% mp, and that's with using Aldo pretty liberally. I rarely use Physik unless somebody took rare damage and it will get them back up to full or if the tank needs extra help after an Aldo.

I only see myself getting more efficient healing when I get my Aether heals too. Maybe it's just me but SCH while the thoroughput is lower than WHM it's a lot less butt clenchy because of the shields and the extra second or so to think. I hate fat heals healers because there's no buffer a lot of the time. Fairy acts as a buffer as well.


I might be really wrong though. I am only 46 now. Maybe it gets iffy later.
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>>385491323
You can and should always be doing 3 Nastronds, 2 will be buffed under b4b.
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>>385495231
Doton is 320 potency, 24/3 = 8, 8*40 is 320.
Not even including poisons/debuffs.
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Anyone have that DRK comic with him macro'ing RP text to all his skills?
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>>385495231
>>385495393
Wait nevermind I'm looking at unbuffed ninjutsu
Alright yeah, looks like Fuma > Katon > Doton wins if you aren't using it to set up TA
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>>385494876
The point is that it doesn't fit under your "MUST be used in order to clear something" criteria.
Stop moving the goalposts.
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>>385495362
Nope. He was deleting every single Final Fantasy thread within minutes of them being created.
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>>385495137
>Spellblade Melee Magic DPS
So literally RDM
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>>385495407
Cute Sawashiro
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>>385495381
yeah wait until you're capped and have other shit to spend aether stacks on and have to heal more than pathetic sub 50 dungeon damage.
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>>385495505
RDM is way more spell than blade, which is a shame because I like the blade part more than the spell part. Muscles in too hard on the other casters (read: renders them irrelevant)

Fair and balanced.
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>>385495452
blackest night must be used otherwise you will end up hitting the enrage check for your low tank dps
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>>385495381
In high level content, Aetherflow stacks are too important to waste on Energy Drain, and it recovers a sad amount of mp.
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>>385495505
There is a difference between mystic knights and red mages. A mystic knight would cast a spell to coat his blade with magic and start whacking people with it.
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>>385495505
But RDM is classified as Ranged Magic DPS, not melee.
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>>385495419
If you mean unbuffed by TCJ/poisons, Doton is still 320 naturally, because server ticks are by 3 seconds, so you divide the timer by 3, then multiply the solution by 40, so 320. Since TCJ doubles potency, a TCJ Doton is 640 potency.
Otherwise I don't know what you mean by unbuffed Ninjutsu, unless I'm getting too tired to talk anymore.
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>>385495605
Are you retarded? TBN does not represent a large enough DPS gain to make that much of a difference. In fact, until recently it wasn't even a DPS gain period.
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>>385495137
I've been waiting for a proper magic based melee DPS for a while. The closest we really have is NIN
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>>385495595
>Muscles in too hard on the other casters (read: renders them irrelevant)
BLM is very relevant right now. They fixed it. It now fulfills its role of a magic SAM as it should. People still want RDM for progression safety but for speedkills, BLM will be the choice to go.
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>>385495038
>AST stands right on me when I have Flare and gets killed instantly
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>>385495605
That's disingenuous at best and full-blown retarded at worst.
TBN is not even near a significant enough DPS boost to mean a fucking wipe to enrage if you don't use it.
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>>385494809
A bunch of people sent board feedback pointing out the rampant pruning and the disparity of the treatment of ffxiv threads and unofficial generals like Splatoon, nintendo, ps4 bait, overwatch...etc. Maybe hiroshima had to finally slap the janny's bottom.
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>>385495671
With the buff to Souleater it's no longer a DPS gain unless you're in grit.
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>>385495763
Ah, well I stand corrected then. The whole point of this argument though can be summed up as: stop pretending tanks are balanced, WAR and DRK have significant problems that will promptly be ignored until the final patch of the expansion, at which point 5.0 will hit and yoshi will get more retarded ideas about how to ruin tanks again.
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>>385495762
I've actually been getting banned for them around SB's release, to spite the janny/mod I'd make a new thread from my phone every time it was deleted until they gave up
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>no fc
>no friends
>no irls friends who want to play

So many players, yet the game feels so empty and deserted.
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>>385494724
>BRDs and MCHs have no gap closer, and so they lose a good amount of DPS on the knockback from Exdeath in O4S. Using Tempered Will and Cover on them will keep them from getting pushed back
Wait what? There's no fucking way that works.
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>>385495667
Katon and Doton were buffed, I pulled up their pre buff numbers
Now this is killing me though, putting Katon in your TA instead of Raiton during TCJ costs 22 potency
Doton is really buffed by Dripping Blades? I find that so hard to believe
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>>385489760

...and what about Shifu, Jinpu, and Yukikaze? How are you getting Higanbana up with those 3 + Kaiten in your opener without using Hagakure? Are you doing a Midare first? Cause that's dumb.
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>>385495892
Most knockbacks work on damage. Since cover eliminates received damage it also prevents knockbacks. Tempered Will is unnecessary though except to prevent the PLD's own knockback. I dunno if it actually works in O4S though since there are loads of knockbacks which are immune to knockback prevention effects.
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>>385495892
it's been like that since 2.0
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>>385495892
Cover is hilarious
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>>385495892
Cover extends Tempered Will's effect to whoever you use it on.
I don't know if it's intended or not, but it totally works. Try it out on any content with a knockback.

Tank utilities have many unexpected uses.
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>>385495137
Spellblade is my favorite archetype. I hope RDM won't be the only magic "melee" job because the melee is just an afterthought.
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>>385495892
It works
Healers and casters surecast, melee uses arms length, PLD tempered will + covers ranged
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>>385495892
>being surprised that being covered by the class that can ignore mechanics will allow you to ignore mechanics
the only way paladin could be more retarded at this point is if cover worked with hallowed ground.
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>>385495926
What? Are you trying to say you use Kaiten on Shifu, Jinpu and Yukikaze? Are you completely buttfuck retarded?

People say you Hagakure the first sen in the opener so that you can buff Higanbana. But you get enough Kenki to buff Higanbana just by doing the Kasha combo. You have 30 Kenki by the time you get to Jinpu which is when you do Higanbana. The reason the Hagakure is there is to get Guren off as soon as possible.
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>>385496001
I'm sure BLU will be a spellblade. I don't know how they'll deal with draw though.
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>>385495896
I mean you should do it if the boss isn't gonna move out, shouldn't be much trouble to practice with.
Considering how vague or strange the game can be with the localization messing with tooltips, you can try practicing it yourself, or just search for the people stating it as fact, and see if they're correct or not.
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Threadly or whatever reminder if any job is added this expansion it'll be Oracle from Tactics
(BLU will either be a mess that's going to be a gigantic clusterfuck or rely on some stupid gimmick that doesn't really enhance the job)
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>>385495864
What exactly do you want them to do? Just nerf Paladin back into HW land so that nobody can ever not take WAR + DRK? For relevant content, Paladin is taken the most, but not by a super retarded margin, WAR/DRK parties are still used and successfully do content. Minor adjustments could be made (another small Paladin DPS nerf wouldn't go amiss), but every time I hear about this crap it just sounds like the sky is falling and that balance NEEDS to be reverted back to one tank just not even existing.
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>>385496240
I should mention the bit about Oracle was from Yoshi, not my own speculation
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>>385494724
>BRDs and MCHs have no gap closer, and so they lose a good amount of DPS
They're fucking ranged with no cast bars
They lose at most half a gcd
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>>385495739
>>385495671
you shitters don't even raid o4s.
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>>385496462
If you aren't optimizing, you're a hindrance to your party.
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>>385496380
Faggots will cry about balance for as long as there are more jobs than can fit in a full party.
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>>385496086

They're wrong about needing Kenki for the buff, yes it's for Guren. No you're not using Kaiten on Shifu, Jinpu, and Yukikaze but you're making sure Higanbana benefits from the buffs & debuff. Hakaze -> Shifu -> Kasha -> Hagakure -> Hakaze -> Yukikaze -> Hakaze -> Jinpu -> Higanbana -> Gekko -> Guren. In that opener you've got a fully buffed DoT early as possible and you have spent Guren
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>>385496510
see
>>385495763
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>>385496573
The slashing debuff doesn't buff DoTs.
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>>385496573
>>385496086

I forgot Kaiten in there before Higanbana but it should go without saying.
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>>385493756
>There's been quite a few requests from the JP community to return Scourge as an alternate combo finisher similar to Goring Blade
I'd love this.
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>>385496634

Higanbana has a 240 potency initial hit which benefits from it.
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>>385496380
>What exactly do you want them to do? Just nerf Paladin
Hell no, paladin is fine as is, the problem is with warrior and dark knight.

>Paladin is taken the most, but not by a super retarded margin
There is objectively no reason not to bring a paladin over one of the other two tanks.

>WAR/DRK parties are still used and successfully do content.
"can complete content" doesn't mean balanced or well-designed.

The issue is that you're thinking in completely binary terms, and that there always has to be a useless tank. Even if PLD DID become non-meta again it'd still be useful and desirable in its current state.

>>385496510
The only shitter here is you since you clearly do not understand the job in the slightest you third percentile shitter. TBN is only a DPS gain in grit, which is retarded because why the fuck would you be in grit.
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>>385495510
>she lay down with a dragon
We still talking about those gigantic things?
How the fuck would that even work?
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>Tfw static is already falling apart because of V4S
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>>385494589
>Dark Mind has fallen off hard, and there's no longer any reason to use it with Dark Arts as it costs way too much for too little return.

Fucking excuse me? You want to repeat that after taking a look at every tank buster save critical hit ( which is cheesed by blackest night/holmgang entirely)
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>>385494750
No more fucking jobs, the balance is fucked up enough as it is.
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What if Shake it Off negates a portion of damage dealt to a party member while restoring WAR's own HP for the equal amount
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>>385496894
It's a figure of speech.
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>>385496835
DRK is just good enough that it's worth taking for the LB gain
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>>385496920
It's probably your fault for not calling it O4S.
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>>385496923
Nigger, read the rest of the sentence. Dark Mind isn't as useful any more since there's no reason to buff it with dark arts unless you enjoy wasting MP for whatever reason.
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>>385496894
You'd be amazed what people can fit inside themselves.
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>>385496946
The balance is nowhere near fucked you autist.
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>>385496920
People who never progged and just come into groups when everything's figured out and then find out that patience required for legit prog is a lot are my favorite meme

>WAH WAH I WANT A CLEAR AND I WANT IT RIGHT NOW WHY CAN'T YOU GRASP SUCH A SIMPLE GAME
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>>385497025
Oh fuck off.
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>>385470386
>>385472320
there no way someone is this stupid right?
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>>385497102
shh you will hurt his feelings.
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>>385496774
Slashing debuff really doesn't affect dots?
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>>385493216
Stop me if this sounds retarded, but what if Inner Release had the same effect on Unchained as it does for Deliverance? Probably stupid as hell and pointless but that does mean six Inner Beasts and that's six 300 potency attacks in a row with 100% life-leech and +20% mitigation. That adds up.
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>>385497153
It doesn't affect DoT ticks. Piercing debuff similarly doesn't work on bard dots and when Scourge was a thing it has a similar issue going though its ticks were magical
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>>385497153
DoTs aren't considered to have any particular damage type and so are unaffected by Slashing/Piercing/Blunt debuffs.
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>>385497153
No.
Initial hit is counted as slashing, debuff is counted as "physical" so nothing beside actual damage buff will make it stronger.
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>>385496960
I'm pretty sure Shiva did fuck a dragon
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>>385496835
Paladin is brought more right now for the same reason Red Mage is - because in progression that defensive utility/crisis control is helpful. In about 3 weeks, gear will be at a point where Paladin will have no greater use than a Warrior or Dark Knight. At that point, if DRK/WAR were to do a noticeable amount more damage than PLD, PLD would just be relegated to 'take it for two weeks on savage launch and then switch to the one your other tank isn't playing'

I agree with regulating their DPS and that there's still work to be done, or potentially making Shake it Off an actual useful party buff or something, but 'buff them to where Paladin is' often sounds like 'make them do more damage than Paladin because Paladin has more utility' which just puts us back into idiot land because their utility isn't 100% mandatory.
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THE LAWS OF THE UNIVERSE
MEANS
NOTHINGGGGGGGG
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>>385497153

I don't know for sure, I doubt it, but ideally you still want it up when you land a Higanbana because the initial hit does benefit.
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>>385496001
>at low level you can actually melee more often than high level because they couldn't be fucked to scale the mana gauge for having less to spend it on below 50
Ebin
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>>385497269
Dragons reproduce asexually. She might have grinded herself on his tail or something, but he has nothing to fuck her with.
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>>385497371
Where do Dragon eggs come from?
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>>385496956
What if Shake it Off made your next Defiance meter-eating move free and had a 30s cooldown.
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>leveling WAR as a change for when I'm tired of healing
>feels like I'm eating way too much damage on a level appropriate dungeon compared to tanks that I grouped with on my main job
It doesn't even seem to help that much if I pop my mitigation cooldowns. I can't tell if I'm doing shit wrong or if tanks just scale a lot more off of gear than healers do.
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>>385497371
This, and in fact to consummate their love, Shiva insisted on being devoured by him since sex was impossible.
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>>385497403
The CLOACA
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>>385497409
Why don't we just replace every GCD with Fell Cleave
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>>385497456
Gear makes a huge difference.
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>>385497403
From inside dragons? They're magic aliens, anon. Their biology is fucking weird. I'm also pretty sure there hasn't even been a mention of eggs.
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>>385497484
That's not enough, I want my oGCDs to be Fell Cleave too. And they should make me invincible.
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>>385497484
That is specifically why I said Defiance meter-eater, so it's not just a 'lol free fell cleave' button and encourages use of non-Fell Cleave meter.
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>play Odin trail after ignoring it for all this time
>drops odin's helm

How lucky is this? i know Odin drops stuff now
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>>385497304
The issue is that something has to give here. If PLD has the same DPS while offering superior utility (even if it isn't necessary for clearing), then it will be taken over another tank every single time. Either they buff DRK and WAR DPS, or give them utility. If they get utility, it will likely render them better than paladin and he'll get thrown in the shed, if they get better DPS then paladin will still have a reason to at least exist even if it's just for progression.

We have two tank slots and three tanks, someone's gonna be stuck at home while everyone else is partying. I'd rather it be because the other two tanks have more DPS and not because one of the tanks just does everything you do but way fucking better.

>>385497484
What if we just replaced inner release with something that didn't render warrior into a rigid piece of shit.
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>>385497456
The defense values of the gear matters a lot along with the weapon, you need to be more up to date than you usually might be.
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>>385497510
https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Dragon_Egg
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>>385497025
You mean A16S
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>>385497563
There you go then. But they're still asexual.
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>>385497371
>Dragons reproduce asexually
Are you sure about that? I'm pretty sure Tiamat and Bahamut fucked to create their brood in Meracydia. Also you killed Nidhogg's mate in Sohm Al.
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>>385497554
>>385497502
That's a bit of a relief. Guess I'll just keep grinding along until I get whatever pink/green gear I can find.
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>>385497542
Same chance as all the other gear it drops.
It's different from the one you get from the Odin FATE though.
If I remember right, it even looks slightly different.
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>>385497510
Midgardsormr carted the First Brood to Hydaelyn as eggs
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>>385497589
T 2 6 S
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>>385497625
Taking a mate is purely spiritual for dragons.
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>>385497625
They take mates for companionship. Nothing more.
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>>385497543
>I'd rather it be because the other two tanks have more DPS
So it's literally just 'I want it to be HW again fuck Paladin.' Right now is the best tank balance has ever been in this game aside from in ARR when they essentially forced PLD/WAR and there wasn't really a choice. It's not perfect, but I'd prefer to keep it the same instead of 'make sure one of them isn't useful'

DRK and WAR are generally secondary in a party to a Paladin, but at least it's not only two tanks ever and one of them only gets to go because it eats less paste than last place.
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>>385497645
Remember to always have the weapon up to date, especially ilvl wise. Road to 50 it's not so bad, but getting to 51, you might encounter problems.
I'm also guessing the gap to get to 51 is easier with Aurum Vale like how it's supposedly easier getting to 61 via Gubal normal.

>>385497625
It's all spiritual and mental bro.
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>>385497456
In dungeons healers only need gear for their healing output on dudes pulling every possible mob. As long as your MND and PIE are okay fuck everything else. If you're tanking with shit gear you're a liability by taking a fuckton of damage, sucking at holding aggro, and doing dick for DPS.

Brayflox in particular used to just ruin PLD's days when they didn't get Shield Oath until 40.
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>>385497656
>we'll never get proper Odin armor, along with the cape
https://youtu.be/1nR37n3dM-0
I hate the fact that this game was made with PS3 in mind.
I'm sure it'll take another 2 expansions for us to even see the difference of removing PS3 access.
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>>385497645
Keep in mind healers are the laziest motherfuckers on the planet and most likely don't feel like doing damage or healing you any more than absolutely necessary
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>>385497853
even after discontinuing PS3, they still have to cater to people playing on 32bit toaster machines.

it will be years before they finally drop the 32 bit client.
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>>385497102
t. SAM
try playing MCH
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Let's say I'm Mael but I want to switch to Flame to get their first lieutenant armor
Do I need to grind my way back to first Lieutenant?
Like, do I need to redo the squadron shit?
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>>385497853
The cape looks fucking awful though. Having it hanging a foot behind you like you're on an imaginary horse isn't any better than it being stuck to your back.
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>>385498034
Oh also, can I go back to Mael after getting it and still use it?
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>>385498030
Try playing literally any other job in the game.

>but one thing is kind of bad, this is the worst game ever REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>385498030
outside of MCH classes are pretty balanced
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>>385498030
Honestly MCH is a blessing in O4S, Dismantle is up for every Almagest and it's amazing
It's a much better state than the bad jobs were in during HW
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>>385497773
>So it's literally just 'I want it to be HW again fuck Paladin
Don't be such a fucking drama queen. HW paladin sucked dick because its DPS was ass AND its defense wasn't really relevant to the content. I guess things are better now because the other two tanks are so garbage it doesn't really matter which one occupies the second slot since the only one in this equation that actually matters is the paladin.

In my scenario paladin is still picked because it has a niche, in your scenario there's never a reason to bring dark knight, and warrior only comes along because his DPS sucks less asshole than dark knight and is just slightly better than getting penalized for having TWO paladins.

Sounds to me like you're just bitter about your job being shit in heavensward and don't like the idea of tank that caters to shitters won't be desirable to skilled and knowledgeable players.
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>>385498115
>Having it hanging a foot behind you like you're on an imaginary horse isn't any better than it being stuck to your back.
It looks like that because it's assuming that there is a horse there. It's literally just Odin's cape, and he is only ever on his horse.
It would look different if it were made for players to wear.
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>>385497823
>Brayflox in particular used to just ruin PLD's days
That dungeon has been a bit of a bugbear for me. I remember when leveling my first job it was the first notable increase in difficulty. It seems to have eased up after I've got some drops from it to the point where I can double pull on some parts of it.
>>385497925
>Keep in mind healers are the laziest motherfuckers on the planet
Oh I know. I will occasionally see a healer with near full mana just standing still waiting for me to take damage, which clashes so hard with my "if I don't have to swiftcast cure III to narrowly avoid a wipe I'm not doing enough DPS" mentality that I will get mad and just drop tank stance to give them something to worry about.
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>>385498030
>This job is 5% below average THE BALANCE IS FUCKED THE SKY IS FALLING
Unless you're 99th percentile and still being outdamaged by the rest of your group then your damage is your own fault.
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>>385498223
Yeah, like the one on Shire gear or PLD AF3
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>>385498034
>>385498117
Anyone?
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>>385498336
yes
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>>385498213
>implying the types who argue about balance can clear relevant raids
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>>385498438
Shit even the squadron?
It's not worth the pain then...
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>>385498217
>in your scenario there's never a reason to bring dark knight
You mean my scenario of how it is right now, with Dark Knights being brought along as much as Warriors and Warrior/Dark Knight being a valid party comp?

You are 100% arguing that the current situation, where all 3 tanks are taken, in which 2 weeks from now Paladin won't be wanted as much probably meaning that it will be close to even on all tanks being brought along, is inferior to the proposal to make it so Paladin is useful for one week and then immediately shut out of doing content because it's a 'tank that caters to shitters'

I am assuming you play a warrior
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>>385498465
Not the squadron. The squadron will be waiting for you. You'll need to get repromoted though,
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>>385498532
of course he does, no one whines more than WARs
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>>385498465
As far as I know you retain your old rank and squadron in companies you switch back to.

But First Liuetenant gear is considered a grand company uniform so you can't use it unless you're in that grand company. Your shit will be useless as soon as you switch back to Mael.
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>>385498575
>Your shit will be useless as soon as you switch back to Mael.
Fuck.
Fuck this shit then.
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>>385498213
>Dismantle is up for every Almagest and it's amazing
There's one Almagest it's not up for.
It happens at 0, 2, 4, 6, 7 and 9 minutes into the fight and unfortunately Addle and Dismantle are both on 120s.
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>>385498532
WARs will literally never stop whining
During HW they had a job that played itself, it outdamaged average DPS while being as braindead as possible and piles of mitigation so it never had to be planned out and used optimally
Now they have to actually try and they are pissed
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