Why can't we have a new megaman X game /v/

Because you posted a thumbnail my dude.

>>385448830
> Wants a new Megaman X game
> Posts a picture of the copycat Rockman X

Come on dude

>>385448942
Well this one looks cooler I is just an April fools thing, plus he should get an update enough of the the 2d we need a proper sequel

>>385448830
>new megaman X game
>megaman
>capcom
That's why.

>>385449143
3D megaman was a mistake. 2D is fine but they keep jerking the old megaman for nostalgia, i want some MM X/Zero love.

>>385448830
Also real sorry for the thumbnail thing.

>>385449270
They do make good games although probably cause of random chance

Try the gunvolt games

>>385449436
I mean 2d really is starting to feel like an indie thing and plus there's already so much 2d X also why not be a lil ambitious and x7 should probably not count as a proper 3d venture the entire games half assed to begin with
I did like the new guy tho

>X series, Zero series and ZX are all the same shit and pretty good overall
>people still complain about a lack of games
Megaman fans are so whiny. I hope you fags at least cleared all the hard modes.

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>Still no Megaman game were X goes back in time and teams up with the original Megaman to fight Dr.Wily and Vile

>>385449820
There's no closure man the x series didn't end
I'm okay with how the Z series turned out I guess and zx was good but that just stopped I'd even like for it get a sequel just anything though nothing handheld please

>>385450024
X would rip through the ancient robot masters

>>385449143
>One is just an April Fools.
Ver Ka design, released as a toy, which I own. Cry more.

>>385448830
They were shit since X5 anyway, MMZ were last good megaman games. also, need to try corruptions one day.

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>>385448942

>>385450321
Pics

>>385450315
>Vile and Wily modify the old robot masters to be deadlier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVUlyaQwF7w

>>385448830
You got 8 of them, why would you want more of something that gets rehashed even more than fucking Mario?

>>385449472
Mighty No. 9 makes me doubt anything relating to megaman at this point

I played x1 2 and 3(snes). Should I play the rest or does the quality dip too much?

You all megaman faggots really should try Azure Striker Gunvolt games. They're made by same guys who did Zero and ZX games.

>>385450489
X4s good x8 too x5 is where it should have ended if your interested in that also has this timer thing which would have been interesting but turned out shit

>>385450489
X4 is the high point of the series.

>>385450462
But zeros equal to X and he's wilys strongest creation

>2017
>still no Elf Wars game
also, fucking pick up Megaman, IDW.

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>>385450852
this

>>385450489
Just play X4 and be done with it

>>385450625
Inticreates?

>>385450852
Ikr an elf trilogy where X Axl and Zero face off against Weil and omega and in the end all hell breaks loose X kills himself to seal the elf and zero to get rid of the virus for good don't know how Axl Should die

>>385448830
capcom only cares about big profits, they're not interested in making lower budget games with lower profit margins unless it's something they can slap together in five minutes like another "collection" or that version of street fighter 2 on the switch

>>385450489
>Mighty No. 9 makes me doubt anything relating to megaman at this point
Then play Mighty Gunvolt Burst.
Yes, it's based on Mighty No. 9, but it's basically what MN9 should have been in the first place.

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>2000 + 17
>Still no massive Mega Man anniversary crossover fighting game with Robot Masters/Mavericks/Net Navis and more as assists
It's a shame Capcom's past their prime.

>>385448830
because regular mega man is better

>>385450974
Fuck yea

>>385451176
Idk monster Hunter world and dragons dogma have niche appeal but I know what you mean it's the profits what matters

>>385451202
I've heard there are a few, which would be best to start with?

and can I pirate them?

With him appearing in mvci I have a feeling we`ll get at least one.

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>>385451349
Lol nope

>>385451393
The main series games are on pc

>>385450625
I played the first one. I really don't like it. The level design is so uninspired, I just blaze through the game without even noticing what is onscreen, including bosses.

>>385451498
Hopefully it won't be like the first person reboot they were thinking about

>>385451756
Does it have an armour system or something

>>385450321
It was only released because a hoard of retards didn't get the joke and demanded a real one.

>>385451905
nope, also the boss weapons are boring as fuck.

>>385452093
Charge attacks for the boss weapons?

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>>385448830
Let's be perfectly honest here.
None of the sequels were as good as the first Mega Man X.

>>385452378
X2 bosses were more fun X3 had bigger stages

>>385448830

I don't think it would work very well for these days. The games would be pretty short too if they were to be like the older ones. It's a shame, really. I really loved the X series.

>>385452197
the boss weapons work like MMZ weapons, so they do different things, some charge, some do not. The problem being what they do is very boring. One, for example, just shoots through enemies, and another one can be shot up or down.

>>385452493
I disagree, X1 bosses were more fun.
X3 level design was dreadful.

>>385452493
Bigger doesn't mean better, especially for X3s case yeesh empty ass shit. X1 is still the most consistent experience

>>385452561
Sounds boring

>>385452690
Gunvolt can level up on enemies you kill and earn his own Special Weapons that act like Giga Attacks without having to beat bosses.
Luxcalibur and Voltic Chain are OP as fuck.

>>385452668
Well I guess yea but it did have a shit load more things not saying that x1 wasn't better x1 was tighter and much more well thought but you gotta sequel

>>385452493
>X2 bosses were more fun
Wheel gator said hi.

Oh and Crystal Snail too.

>>385449472
>They do make good games
They don't. They DID, or they USED TO.

>>385450974
>that zero design
why couldn't we have gotten that for the mmz games? it looks way better

>>385452940
Not him but I agree, I constantly got X2 and X confused so much that when I went back and decided to re-buy a copy of X i realized it wasn't even the game I liked and the spark mandrill wasn't in X at all

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>>385452940
Overdrive ostrich was fun

>>385452940
Crystal Snail wasn't that bad, but wheel gator is some disjointed shit

>>385453174
Spark mandrill was in X1

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>>385453285
This guy too

>>385453174
But anon. He was in X1.

>>385453285
True. I did like fighting him.

>>385453441
Trying to fight Crystal snail without his weakness was a mistake. And also why I hate him so much.

>>385453658
>dumb first form
>worse second form that struggles to hit you

Nah.

>>385453683
Some bosses are just a pain without their weakness

>>385450852
>>385450974
I still think the Elf War is a terrible idea for a game. Nothing in a 2D sidescroller could possibly encapsulate the scope that was described.

I also think the threat of allies being brainwashed can't really be focused on; but MMX didn't really get that across either.

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>>385453074
who knows?

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>>385454014
this can be an understatement

>>385454394
I did say some

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>>385448830

Because capcom are now jews

>>385454387
god, i wish that were me

>>385454632
no matter how small this gif gets i can still always make out exactly what's happening
memes truly are an amazing thing

>>385455713
So, what's happening in that gif then? It looks like a sprite animation.

>>385449742
>>385449436
Capcom made a mistake avoiding the 3rd dimension.

They treated the Legends games as a scorned obligation since the only reason they greenlit it was to get Sony to approve a bunch of 2D games release on the PS1.
Some reason either just incompetence or rushing X7 out way too fast made it the laughing stock of the franchise.

So rather than actually modernizing the franchise; It's stuck in self-contained safe-zones tha wasn't helped along by 2008's nostalgia rush. Pretty much assuring the end of the franchise since it only became self-referential.

>>385456056
I'm amazed at how bad X7 played. Why didn't they just reuse the Legends engine? It wasn't perfect, but it was miles better.

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>>385456025

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Hot opinions

X1>X2>X8>X3>X6>X5>X4>X7

complete reboot
>more tie-in with original series
>no zero
>no sigma
>no reploids or mavericks
>no animal based robots
>model the game around something similar to mm1
>robots are used for something specific, like mining
>mining operations on different planets
>robots have gone rogue and are threatening the terraformers
>mega man has to travel between and figure out why
>stages are more alien, atmospheric, futuristic but the players is always isolated

>>385456190
I think some of the X7 team actually worked on legends too. So there's really no excuse why X7 had to be so sluggish. Other then being rushed out the door (Which it pretty much was)

>>385454394
Not everything needs to be dark souls

>>385456437
Fair enough. X7 is the only bad X game.

>>385456437
X6 should probably be lower

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>>385456437
>X4 that low
>behind 5 and 6 no less
i respect your opinion but it's still the most ass backwards one i've read in a while

>>385456190
Legends doesn't really play like a conventional Mega Man game.
Also, this was during the "poor gameplay ideas" period that X6 also suffered from with stuff like the Nightmare system.

>>385456190
>I'm amazed at how bad X7 played. Why didn't they just reuse the Legends engine? It wasn't perfect, but it was miles better.
>>385456651
>I think some of the X7 team actually worked on legends too. So there's really no excuse why X7 had to be so sluggish.
Did you Legends fans ever replay the games? Shit was sluggish as fuck.

>>385456437
>X8 that high
2 stages were complete shit and of the rest maybe 4 were pretty shit while a couple were good. Such a bad game.

>>385457019
I do, it's a bit clunky, but Legends 2 is a huge improvement, thanks to it's targetting system and better controls.
Much better than the mess X7 was.

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I honestly didn't think the cancelled Mega man X reboot looked that awful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olYCsHuqjOo

It shows a lot of verticality and movement options that at the time were sorely missing from FPS. Made by key Retro staff too, so who knows? We might live in the timeline were we missed out on Mega Man X getting its Metroid Prime equivalent

>>385456437
X4>X5>X8>shit>X6
>tfw you only played the ps1 games and 8

>>385457227
I started with them on the PC too so hue but should totally try the first three

>>385456878
Not that guy but personally I never really understood why X4 is a favorite to many people. I mean I like the story I guess, one of the less dumb ones and it has some neato bosses but both the stages and the soundtrack are really damn boring.

>>385448830
Because X is the worst of the platforming Mega Man series. Classic, Zero and ZX are all better.

>>385457019
Legends 1 was before analog controls. I give it slack because early PS1 3D games were always fucking sluggish.

2 was a legit improvement in a plenty of ways.

X7 shouldn't fucking feel like trash to play. Even the 2D segments played like shit.

THE 2D SEGMENTS.

>>385452971
This. Even Monster Hunter has been ruined.

>>385457386
I can't stand classic with no dashing. Dashing and dash jumping makes the series for me. Such mobility. X1 is kinda annoying because you practically need to do Chill Penguin first.

>>385457503
The dash and the dashing jump only the X series got it right

>>385457083
Fair enough - My impressions of it might be inflated because it's such an amazing step up from X7 (Marathoned both of them with a buddy over a weekend because they were the only two I'd never played. X7 is fucking bafflingly bad)

The soundtrack is fucking allright too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jBbPuTDZ7Y

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>>385456604
>remove everything related to X and replace it with some artsy shit
I'm all for new ideas, but this is by far the most retarded one

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>>385456651
>I think some of the X7 team actually worked on legends too
Well there's like 12 of them when you get passed the "special thanks" entry between X7 and MML1, fewer from MML2. The X7 team has more in common with the Disney's Hide and Sneak team; with 16 overlapping staffers.

And I think like 10 of the same people worked on Pheonix Wright. Stacking like that just doesn't make for great arguments when Capcom has such fluid staffing assignments.


>So there's really no excuse why X7 had to be so sluggish. Other then being rushed out the door (Which it pretty much was)
MML wasn't the best way to make 3D though. So much of the world was flat surfaces and even most of the animated items were a series of paper dolls rather than models. I don't know if it couldn't handle more polygons or if there was a conscious effort to avoid them... but either way where this worked for the PS1 they couldn't possibly get away with it on the PS2

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>>385457369
This anon knows. Production values are worse in both X5 and X6 but level design and OST in X4 comes off as bland and by the numbers. While X5 and X6 have lower lows I've always felt they are more interesting to play than X4.

SNES trilogy kinda mops the floor with them tho

>>385457630
How so? X series didn't really change that much of the formula and what it did change was all improvements.

Zero is a good series but I remember the first one being plagued by questionable level design, 2 and 3 are GOAT though while 4 is kind of an afterthought with a separate story but still good.

ZX is good even though the map is retarded and Vent is a bitch baby (but everyone picks Aile, right?)
ZX Advent fixed the map and you have more transformations but a lot of them are pretty useless. Also I don't like that your default Ax form has no sword+buster like Zx and you get Zx too late to fully enjoy it so I prefer original ZX over Advent.

>>385458276
Agreed with everything.

>>385458121
Trying to make everything into darksouls

I would rater get Star Force 4

>>385457858
Yeah imo X8 is on the level of "one of the weaker entries in the series" while X7 is just garbage to the point of not being worth playing even once.

>>385458352
Yeah but the improvements but all the sweet spots and I'm talking about the entire X z zx series the dash works almost identical in all of them with minor tweaks was recently playing hollow knight and I was like holy shit the dash is horrible

>>385458275
I guess that makes sense then. Maybe it could have just been completely scrapped to the point where you can a new game from it. I dunno. I played X7 a while back again (to hurt myself I guess) and I just kept finding more and more things to hate rather then like.

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>>385458490

>>385459903
But anon I am agreeing with you that is a stupid thing to do

>>385460037
oh sorry was hard to comprehend your intent by your wording

>>385460189
Second language my bad

>>385460316
no worries m8

I wouldn't mind another spinoff.
A Megaman X musou could be repetitive and boring but I'd love to see some of the older Mavericks in 3D and maybe as part of the playable cast.

>>385449143
They made toys of that though. Three of em. Wait 4.

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>>385454385
It'd be a Turn-based, squad-level game with you controlling a customizable team of maverick hunter mooks that do side missions during the elf-wars with occasional glimpses at the scope X and Zero are dealing with. Sure, your sides important for what it does, but the levels with either character just shows how badly they dwarf your party.
Still, you take out major minor threats. You're not solo-ing a boss like X or Zero, but your squad does what it does.
Bonus points for Pantheon aesthetic

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Real talk, why doesn't Capcom just get a smaller studio, give them a moderate budget and have them make a SNES-styled X9? Between the bad PR with Mighty No 9 and the fanbase being starved for new games the only way something like this could fail would be if they deliberatily tried making it shit.

>>385449820
they're complaining about a lack of games because there hasn't been a game for 10 years

>>385462952
Fuck retro leave the nostalgia pandering to Nintendo

>>385451349
I really can't handle the old games
Dashing and wall-jumps completely spoiled me mobility wise

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>>385448942
That's not copycat X, that's just Katoki'd X.

>>385452037
>Make a joke redesign that's supposed to be interpreted as bad
>People love it

>>385463683
>that's supposed to be interpreted as bad
It was just supposed to ape on Build Fighters.

>>385463683
Happens all the time.

>>385464336
Katoki redesigns precedes build fighters and hell I don't think his redesigns are ever mentioned by name in GBF, they just say the name of the suit, not the specific kit the gunpla is based on.

>>385463431
>>385462952
See what I miss about Megaman X circa SNES was the weird accuracy of sensibility though maybe not strict physics.

Fire weapons don't really work under water.
Ice weapons get bigger under water.
The acid weapon neutralizes underwater; but bounces off the surface of water.
The surface tension of water is enough for X to pull a wall-kick kind of jump off.
Catching a boomerang weapon recharges your weapon energy.
Jumping off ride armors to yoshi extra airtime.

Don't see that in the PS1 and beyond games.

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>>385464618
But the Rockman Unity article followed months of blog posts by the staff about how much they were enjoying Build Fighters, and a couple musings about incorporating the concepts into the series' future after prodding from commenters about how Rockman games steal ideas from Gundam.

>>385464694
The think I missed in the PS1 games was being able to press jump and dash at the exact same time to dash jump without dashing first. It was really nice for platforming sections.

>>385465227
In a way Battle Network was close to build fighters. People designed and coded their unique net navis and had them fight one another in tournaments. You also had generic navis which were the equivalent of non customized gunpla.

>>385465416
You can do that in the snes games too.

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>>385462313
Squad based is still too small. Every active reploid on Earth is supposed to be involved in this war across everywhere on the planet. Everywhere; deserts, the oceans, the ice caps, boreholes, volcanoes; armies forming everywhere.

RTS or crowd fighters are the only scale it makes sense on.

>>385466095
That's what I'm saying. in the SNES games you can press both simultaneously and instantly dash jump but in the PS1 games you have to start an actual dash before you can dash jump.

>>385464336
You can't possibly be this retarded.

Honestly, I'd be happy with some sort of Legacy rerelease of X1-X8.

I actually hope it's the next thing Capcom does if the MM Legacy 2 collection is successful.

Maybe the actual SNES MMX3 this time instead of the one with crappy music and sound effects.

>>385467005
>Maybe the actual SNES MMX3 this time instead of the one with crappy music and sound effects.
Ha ha ha.

>>385467005
You'll get the PS1 version, you like it or not.

What would be the point? Series peaked with the very first game, it's all been downhill ever since. No way they could ever compete with X1.

The same reason Steve Jobs no longer work at Apple. Dead

>>385467005
I'm actually amazed this didn't happen during the ps3 era. (We got the PS1 classic X4 and X5, but X6 was a no go due to the voice acting.)

IMO they should have ported the Anniversary collection and put it as a digital download under the PS2 classics PSN section.

>>385467432
>X6 was a no go due to the voice acting

The PS2/GC collection included it without any voices, so I don't buy that.

>>385467005
If it happens, expect it to be a of minimum 3 games.

X1-X3

X4-6 (with the Japanese voice cast deleted ala the AC)

X7-X8 with Command Mission thrown in as an unlockable.

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because megaman's father left the company. you wouldn't want a new megaman without his father involved, would you?

>>385467515
I think the problem was that Sony's policy for PS1 classics are that they have to be 1:1 copies of the disc versions.

Capcom couldn't go back and edit out the voice work like they did with the Ps2/Gamecube editions.

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>Megaman always do the best on Nintendo platforms.
>Release 2 games with fuckall marketing on PSP out of all things.

Sometimes it feels like capcom is ran by utter retards.

>>385468375
They were of the mindset that the DS was still a sprite-focused console, all the new Megaman games on it were sprite based, and Star Force's 3D was very limited

>>385467779
But they got MML on the PSN editing out the ingame ads and production studio plug.

>>385467779
This is mostly true.

However, Legend of Dragoon has a small patch added on to it to insure better compatibility. (this is because of how buggy it was when played under emulation on the PS2)

>>385468375
Sometimes I think its the opposite, Capcom tries to throw every console in a generation at least a few bones. I remember Shinji Mikami was highly impressed with the Gamecube and initially wanted RE4, REmake, and RE0 exclusive for it, but they also made Code Veronica for the Dreamcast too. And I remember how when they made Mega Man 8 for Playstation, they also made MM&B for the SNES as a tradeoff.

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Just go play Mitty Gunvolt Bruh, they released Eroko for free until august the who gives a shit-th

>>385468375
>Nintendo markets Capcom's shit for them because they can't be bothered to do it
>Pretty much use Nintendo as free marketing and then decide to release their shit on other systems
I'm surprised Nintendo is even tolerant of this shit.
>Capcom sold a 15+ year old port for $40 and people bought it for the sole purpose of making Capcom actually notice the Switch
Capcom is an absolute internal mess that it's a goddamn miracle that they've survived as long as they have.

>>385469132
Megaman always have legs on Nintendo platforms whatever Capcom likes or not, I think that they try throw shit everywhere to see what sticks.

In all seriousness, I really think that Capcom should have some kind of approach with Nintendo for megaman.

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>>385468375
>>385469383
>>385469454
Developing those games for PSP was THE mistake.

>>385469383
>The only reason we even got MM6 overseas (Well besides Europe) was because of Nintendo footing the bill. Capcom was just gonna fucking leave it in Japan.

Man. Capcom just doesn't like Nintedo very much.

>>385456437
X4 > X1 > X8 > X2 = X3 = X5 >>>>> X7 > X6

>>385469545
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>>385448830
the last time i wanted a new game/sequel in a series that i loved i got yoshi's new island

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>>385469696
Literally the same shit happening with MH:Stories. I really just don't understand Capcom. One moment Nintendo and Capcom are buddy-buddies and the next it's like they won't even look at each other. The fact that they released the Disney Afternoon collection on everything but Nintendo platforms is absolutely bizarre.

>>385469454
> I think that they try throw shit everywhere to see what sticks.
Not really. It seems like they go back and forth between Nintendo and Sony with Classic Mega Man sticking closer to Nintendo and X & Legends sticking closer to Sony.
The PSP was still a mistake though

>>385469696
People say a lot of shit from Nintendo, and sure sometimes they deserve it but they are quite cool with devs when coming to publishing.

Hell, Ninty is trying to get hands on DQ publishing for years only to squeenix cockblock them every time, I really wonder why everyone still try to fuck them over.

>>385470073
Didn't they publish IX in the states?

gameplay:X1>x3>x2
music:X1>x3>>>>x2

>>385470119
Yes, Nintendo published some games. But squeenix still is a cunt with DQ.

>>385469545
>three dimensional platformer
>co-op play
>increasing the number of levels of each robot master
>DLC
Kill yourself

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>>385470073
It's definitely incredibly apparent that Nintendo's really tried to abolish that stigma they got during the NES/SNES era with third party devs, and they've definitely reached out. The main problem is that devs think they can get away with shit tier ports only to use them as an excuse when they don't perform that great.

>>385470525
>tfw Most Wanted U was pretty much a PC port.

Devs really polished the entire thing, they even ported some shaders and textures to run on the damn thing, but yeah most devs tend to shove some port to "test" waters and fuck off if isn't selling.

At least Konami did the right approach with bomberman, which Nintendo helped to develop.

Reminder that we've still got a cartoon coming along!

>>385469454
>>385469929
It's kind of strange to my sensibilities that Capcom only with MM9 launched Mega Man as a multiplat.

>>385471694
If you want to be technical there was the Anniversary and X Collections but (the former at least) was only released in the US.
There was also Mega Man 8, which was released on both the PS1 and the Sega Saturn.

>>385448830
>Crapcom
>Give a single fuck about megaman
Pick one

>>385471819
>Check Wikipedia
Huh, well I guess I'm letting my PAL flag fly.

>>385467653
No, he made Zero you shit, he had nothing to do with Mega Man's conception

>>385448830
Megaman X for ants