You fags will argue about anything.

>>385444708
no you

Why does he have a camera for a head

>>385444708
Put me in the screencap reddit !

A second person shooter would be from the gun's perspective.

what if 4th person shooter?

>>385444708
>Halo/Half-life/Doom

>Gears of War, Jet Force Gemini,Vortex

>Metal Slug, Contra, Smash TV

The term comes from literature, as in first and third person narrative you ignorant faggot. It refers to the protagonist, who is talked about in the first or the third person.

>>385445181
Thats a rts

>>385444708
so 3rd person shooter is an rts?

There's no argument to be had when your statrment is this stupid.

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>>385445407
>can't even spell statement
>calls other people stupid

>>385444708
A second person shooter would be seeing it from the enemies view, right?

>>385445507
If you're this bored in life why not get a job?

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>>385445695
what makes you think im bored?

>>385445687
Yes.
In OP's pic there is no one to shoot at so it isn't really a shooter.

>>385445507
Do you have no other argument than to attack my typo, brainlet?

>>385444927
Wouldn't it be from the enemy's perspective?

>>385445849
this would be trippy as fuck

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>>385445824
There's no argument to be had when your statement was that stupid.

>>385444708
this image is incorrect

>>385445931
There is some mod for hl2 where you can only see from the enemies point of view, I think.
I think it's based around sneaking. Never played it, though.

>>385445931
I remember a few bosses like this in the DS Zelda games, I loved them as a kid

>>385445687
Well no that would be third person omniscient. The game would have to play from the perspective of a person, or thing that is directly engaging the audience like a sword, or a machine, or a gun for combat's sake. Third person is when the audience is not engaged, but rather privy to things that the other characters, such as the protagonist, wouldn't know. Second person story telnet is like Half-Life 2 or something but only in theory.

>>385445849
this is correct

>>385445849
Siren does this as a gameplay mechanic. It works great in horror.

>>385445213
No, retard, the term comes from fucking words.
First person is 'I', second person is 'You' and third person is 'Him'.

There's a flash game called second person shooter zato and basically you always see the character you control from the point of view of the enemy

here's a video on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8G3z1dwwto

>>385445941
You mean my statement about you being an idiot? But I am right. Where's the stupidity in that?

>>385446350
how can i be an idiot, when i still haven't made a typo?

The "2nd person" shooter is also 3rd person. There's no such thing as "2nd person"

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>>385444708
*Breathes in really deeply*
JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS!

>>385446427
You presented the OP picture.
>inb4 you claimed you're not OP

>>385446341
But that's not the second person. That's the textbook definition of third person engagement.

>>385446341
Why isn't there a local multiplayer 2nd person game yet?

>>385446474
Finish school.

>>385446553
Play a splitscreen FPS game but look at the other player's screen.

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>>385444708

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>>385446520
i'm really not op, anon. see?
ignore my theme

>>385446553
People would solely look at the other person's screen as if its their 1st person camera

>>385446071
>>385446170
Does that mean third person is the player and fourth player is the TV..?

>>385446635
He's not wrong, if you operate from the perspective of another person, you're just operating in the third person. The second person employs a passive voice, both in cinematography and in grammar. Just because you slap "you" onto the person experiencing the event doesn't take away from the agency employed which is a character who is privy to things in the third person.

>>385446542
No, it fucking isn't. Have you ever even read a book in your life?

>>385446692
>[おうですか]
Wat?

>>385446676
>>385446721
What if the perspectives are then from NPCs instead of the players?

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>>385446872
i said, ignore my theme.

>>385446553
There's also a game called Screen Cheat in wich you have to see the other player's camera so you can kill the other one, because you can't see people in your screen

>>385446923
No, I am interested in your theme.

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>third person shooter
>he's the fifth person

>>385446957
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSqZvqLuNrY

Here's a link

>>385446831
What does reading a book have to do with my comprehension of grammar?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WMFMwBoWU0

2nd person would be a shooter through the view of the MC's partner. You wouldn't control the partner though, still the MC.

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>>385446961
it's not interesting. we're suppose to be arguing.

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>>385446907
Third person

www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwfNASlfkbA

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>>385444927

Second-person gaming would be watching someone else play, or having them explain to you their gaming experience.

You know, like Let's-players.

>>385445931
Psycho Mantis fight in MGS1

>>385444708

Bottom image is actually a 5th person shooter

"In literature, first-person narration is when the protagonist speaks as themselves. Thus, a subjective perspective in cinema isn't first-person at all. Instead, the POV film would be best defined as “second-person cinema,” akin to the use of “you” to convey subjective perspective in literature."

What is fourth and fifth person then?

>>385447401
this image is misleading because in the 1st person scenario, it is just a camera following, but in the 2nd person scenario, the camera is an actual person.

>>385446341

If I wanted to play a game where the objective is to kill yourself I would just go outside.

>>385447093
Ok listen here faggot, if this is going to work then sometimes you have to do what I say. And what I'm saying is give me your theme

>>385447578
meant to say 3rd person instead of 1st

>>385447578
That's because in 3rd person the cameraman is not mentioned, he is there only for the camera and doesn't exist within the world of the characters.
In the 2nd person he is an actual character however.

>>385447084
Or a literal NPC cameraman who's following you around filming you.

>>385447109
Like this, but if you had no control over lakitu and he interacted with the world.

>>385447578
That's why you would have to employ the audience through a device like a camera or a gun or something. You could not tell the story from the perspective of anyone else but an object, at least if it were a game.

>>385444708
I've only ever played one game that had second person gameplay and it was Siren 2
Good shit

>>385447770
>>385447814
I understand this, but the image does not show that and is misleading

>>385447502
4th person is the viewer/player.
I don't know if 5th person view exist, but if it is, I'd say it's either god or the author.

>>385447830
But that's still 3rd person due to the camera delineating clearly the perspective of another person. The audience is engaged primarily as a tertiary agent, something to view through the camera person possessed.

Is it 3rd person if you watch a streamer playing a first person shooter?

>>385448093
>I'd say it's either god or the author.
thats 3rd person omniscient

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>>385447653
are you sure, anon? while it's my favorite, it's not very good...

Why is that man hunched over with a cube on his neck? wtf is this image trying to show me?

>>385448361
No because the engagement is still first person. The game itself doesn't change,mane your method of viewing bears no impact, homonculus or otherwise.

>>385445849
I need this I don't care how shit it would be.

>>385445762
Ayo senpai, can you get me another anime girl with a question mark?

>>385448515
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siren_(video_game)

>>385448464
how do you even know it's first person if you watch the streamer and not the game?

Who cares

>>385448149
Surely if the camera is attached to another person and you are viewing your character through that camera then it can be considered second person. You are still playing as your character but viewing him through the eyes of another that you can't control.

>>385444927
A second person shooter would be from the enemy's perspective. So a game like Screencheat

>>385448676
A co-op game where one person controls the camera and the other controls the character.

>>385448734
its only second person when you look at the other screens, it is still first person when you look at yours

>>385448676
If the camera is attached to another person,my our method of interacting is still in third person terms. You know know and do things that neither the camera or the player are privy to.

>>385448583
no

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The truth

>>385444708
1st person: player characters view
2nd person: Enemies view of player character
3rd person: over shoulder/bird eye view of player character
3rd person omniscient: everyone is on screen at the same time or you can tale control of multiple characters/units at a time
There us no 4th 5th 6th etc person

>>385448809
In this case then the definition of second person being an "enemy view of the player character" would also not be true

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>>385444708
>3rd
>sitting on toilet
heh

>>385449002
I couldn't have said it better myself.

>>385444708

In literary terms 1st, 2nd, and 3rd person perspective are generally denoted by I, you, and they respectively. I assume that's what this silly picture it trying to get at.

>>385449002
>>385449287
4th person is audio only

>>385449083
Well yeah, which is what I said ten posts ago. That's just third person mocked up with the label second person.

If you played as a sword, and your owner was a dick or something that would be second person perspective storytelling. I don't know how the camera would work, but usually that is how people tell stories from the second perspective, by inttiating a so called first perspective that's really told through the events that the cinematographer has to present to the audience, directly engaging them.

>>385449328
what
where did you get that

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1st person = Call of Duty
2nd person = Resident Evil
3rd person = Gears of War

>>385449328
in english, everything that isnt 1st or 2nd person is 3rd person

>>385449376
I see, I think you have convinced me
However couldn't the narrator in a game be considered to be the camera

>>385449376
but if you are an enemy getting shot by the player, aren't you directly engaged?

>>385450071
Kind of? It really depends on how it's narrated.

>>385447075
came to post this

>>385446763
but whos the real player?