Monster hunter

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>>385402596
Me too anon

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>you will never fight the lagiacruz for the first time ever again

>>385402975
You mean getting your ass kicked by it like every monster hunter seems to do now?
>Flagship monster in a low rank quest
Every time.

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Why is everyone hating on World? It looks fun as hell, obviously they're going to balance everything. I'm glad we finally have PC Monster Hunter.
Hopefully there's plenty of monsters and areas in this game to keep us busy. I also hope for more long-term goals to keep us busy.

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>>385403037
>fight the flagship in g
>"not this time"
>40 fucking minutes later it dies
>realize I have mere minutes left to actually kill the quest target
>fighting the flagship warmed me up to such a point that I kill that bastard in under a minute

>>385403189
>PC
have fun with your shit community

That said, I'll probably be buying twice: on console and PC

>>385402596
Diving in with 3 other bros and beating a monster out of its natural habitat was a glorious feeling

I'll never get why they never returned to it

>>385403450
They needed a reason to keep selling 3U even after 4U was out. Marketing suggests a large retroactive consumer base.

>>385403189
I was concerned up until the moveset videos were released because of the lack of information we had. Seperate demonstrations showing the exact same hunt rings alarm bells for me. Now I'm reasonably hyped, but I need to see new/returning monsters and maps before I can be completely sold.

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>>385403947
>I was concerned up until the moveset videos were released
>Now I'm reasonably hyped

Nigger is you crazy?

>>385404019
Is that the new dragoon class?

>>385404019
its treason then

>>385402596
Surprisingly I think I do too but I'm sure if I went back and did a few I'd realize that I only thought that I missed them.

>>385404019
That looks so fun though

>>385404019
But anon I like anime

I'm also an IG main :^)

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>>385402596
As do I. I think it deserves a little bit of a redesign instead of being axed. It would mesh with World so well.

>>385404019
IG looks broken as fuck.

>>385404019
>>385404343
Except the IG will undoubtedly do significantly more damage sticking to the ground, just like always. All the same I look forward to the Flying Frenchie Brigade zipping about overhead doing fucking nothing to help the hunt.

>>385404185
>>385404019
>Hunter fights Donald Trump

>>385404293
This.
Gobul was a pretty good hunt, just the actual underwater combat and controls needed to be redone.

>>385404293
>>385405361
Honestly it felt pretty alright on the Wii U. I think it was the 3DS, especially the O3DS (being the only one at the time), that was the biggest problem.

>>385405705
I loved it. 60FPS underwater looked fucking great in 3D.

mh4 and mhg are awful games

>>385404435
The monster doesn't have a prayer, it's just standing there waiting for you to come down. What an exciting game.

>>385403901
No people just didn't like underwater combat for some reason even though it injected some good variety into the gameplay.

>>385404019
>IG is the new tonfas

>>385404435
>Je suis monté intensifies x3 in every single hunt

>>385402596
My favourite bit is when you cart 3 times.

>>385402596
I miss 3u monsters. Its the best mh game easily because it doesnt have gen 1 trash

>>385403037
>can kill every flagship monster in the mission you're supposed to run from it
>Gen comes out
>gives the 4 flagships a fuckload of HP during these run away quests making it essentially impossible

why did they do this?

>>385404019
Worst weapon by far but others are fine

>>385407217
>x3
Time to leave.

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>Those new CB sounds
Eh... Doesn't do it for me. I think this is the one time where removing particle effects doesn't work.

>>385403241
I went through multiplayer first and then went to story mode.
>"Eh, might as well kill it""
>"Why the fuck isn't this thing dying?"

>>385403450
Because people who were too shit to figure out the controls, let alone get to G-rank were being a bunch of massive faggots, and collectively whined their asses off. That's about the gist of why we won't see underwater combat return.
Unskilled loudmouths.

>>385403313
The community is already shit

I'm sick of XX, going back to 3U. Which weapon should I use? Considering swaxe or bow.

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New gameplay footage.
DB, IG, SA and LBG

>>385409015
fuck i forgot the link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m81XclDe5Dc

>>385409062
That armour is so Dragon's Dogma. Well, the cape is anyway.

>>385409062
>>385409171
Oh also Chinese must be the ugliest language in the world. Or... whichever flavour of Chinese that is.

>>385409171

Well it IS using the DDON engine (modified) so it's not surprising.

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>Tfw cant decide between Greatsword or SwitchAxe

>>385409231
Cantonese. Spoken in places like HK.

>>385409015
I really wish people wouldn't do those kinds of thumbnails with them making stupid faces or some shit. I know clickbait is the order of the day, but it still just kind of annoys me.

>>385409324

Get them BOTH.

t. weapon idort

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>>385404343
You haven't seen dual blades then.

>>385409308
>>385409171
Meh I'm actually happy with the Monster Dogma hybrid that they have done, loved DD but hated the lack of content and WOLVES HUNT IN PACKS while traveling the same road over and over, MH gameplay with DD style? Thanks.

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>>385402596
no you dont, stahp lying

>>385409324
Charge blade

>>385405705
Tri had the best implementation of the underwater fights because you could use ZL and ZR to control your depth rather than having to jerk the camera up and down like in 3U.

Tri was shit.

>>385407336
It's possible, just very time consuming. I managed to beat Glavenus without carting, but it took almost 40 minutes and about ten tries. Got some nice loot though. And it gave a spooky element to the story when everyone was saying that the Glavenus had come back.

>>385403189
I just wanted portable MH now that the 3DS is becoming a non-option for development.

>>385407336
The Lagiacrus that you meet early in Tri and 3U is literally unkillable.

>>385403189
Nobody is. MHFags (of which I'm partially a part of) have been clamoring for a console MH since Tri, especially if you didn't have a Wii. Portable MH is fucking cancer.

>>385407336
Gen wasn't the first one. I know for a fact that the Lagi in 3U is invincible until you finish the actual Lagi hunt. You could go in with G rank weapons and never be able to kill it.

>>385409062
>hyped for LBG footage
>only uses it to get the last hit in on a sleeping monster
looks like the gas bombs are just a normal part of it's moveset instead of special ammo

>>385409491
It's funny because Dual Blades were always broken if you could get around the shitty range and lack of mobility. Yes, LACK of mobility, the strongest attacks leave you completely immobile.

Then we get all this DMC crap. That's not MH. Positioning is very important, you can't just fly around like a faggot.

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>>385411016
>new Demon Mode X attack leaves you immobile for 3~ seconds for just the first attack of the combo
>WOW WHY IS IT SO FAST WHAT THE FUCK CAPCOM

>>385411117
>Monsters letting you stand still for several seconds

Why did they make all the monsters passive and harmless?

>>385411117
someone posting kengan ashua

can't fucking wait for the next chapter

say sometimes i find some korean site from 2015 or so having way more chapters that aren't even translated yet

is the whole manga already done and we are just waiting for english translators?

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>>385411325
the manga is roughly about 120 or so chapters ahead of current English translations
and yet we're still getting weekly fucking releases

>>385403189
Only problem I have with the game is the grapple. It looks like casualizing, just like arts did with Gen. And before tards begin shouting how you don't have to use it, please realize the monsters are still balanced for those.

>>385411392
kill me

and i just know already that they'll sidetrack the SHIT out of the tournament

>haven't played MH since PS2
>didn't make it past Kut-Ku because game froze
>never liked handhelds/nintendo stuff so haven't played another game in the series yet
>never paid much attention to them
>gonna pick up the new one for PC (unless I misread and it's only out on console in which case I'll get it for PS4)

What am I in for?

>>385411432
>grappling points are only in specific spots, of which we have seen aren't extremely common
and you can hardly say that monsters are balanced around them, seeing as we have only seen two new monsters that are both extremely low-low rank tier, and none of the demonstrations have shown the grappling points being utilised mid-fight

>>385411504
It sounds like the wait between console and PC will be months.

You're in for fun

>>385411606
>I-It's just a trailer!
>I-It's just a demo!
>I-It's just the first version!

I doubt they rank lower than Kut-Ku which was more than indicative of how monsters in MH fuck you like no other.

>>385403189
It's just typical console war underaged cancer

>>385408728
Xbox will have the best community.

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>>385411730
>>I-It's just a trailer!
>>I-It's just a demo!
>>I-It's just the first version!
I get what you're trying to say, but none of that pertains to what I said.
There is hard proof that the grappling points are not a feature that is meant to be utilised in the same way that something like 4U/Gen's ledges were. The positioning of them alone tells us this.
And it's been straight up said that these monsters are beginner monsters, around the equivalent to Kut-Ku.

It's alright to be sceptical anon, but at least base your scepticism on the facts that we already know.

>>385403189
>obviously they're going to balance everything
MH's idea of balancing is fighting power creep with power creep. I don't want any more Frontier "balancing" in mainline.

>>385411941
That's even worse, because despite the overwhelming buffs to hunters Yian Kut-Ku is still ten times harder than any monster shown so far. I don't care if the last like 2 monsters provide a challenge, the point of MH is that every monster provides some manner of challenge.

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>>385412048
Kut-Ku's "challenge" stems entirely from outdated, broken designs though.
Without the 360° hitbox and zero frame charges, Kut-Ku would be a complete pushover.

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Discuss

>>385411265
It was on the ground you huge faget

>>385412048
>MH is about difficulty
You can take TWENTY mega potions, TEN normal potions, and find honey to make those ten more mega potions as it is. Monsters comboing you isn't a thing until mid high rank at minimum.
Also >>385412184, which are also problems that affect most genwun monsters.

>>385412184
>>385412232
See, this is where our opinions split. MH is about overcoming an unfair challenge. If monsters are slower, weaker and less agile than the hunter, there's no point in playing. Monster combing is always a thing, especially once they lowered the stun threshold.

>>385412187
Serpent or Hydra?

>>385412048
Kut ku is easy and you need to stop

>>385412304
Many snakes combining to become a hydra

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>>385412304
I'm not arguing that Monster Hunter isn't about challenge, just that the challenge for a lot of monsters comes almost entirely over broken mechanics, rather than good design.
Judging the difficulty of a (presumably) non-broken monster off of a broken monster of the same tier just isn't a fair comparison.

The idea that challenge and difficulty stems from bad hitboxes and unavoidable attacks is what leads us to Frontier monsters.

>>385404019
>anime is not okay when nintendo does it

>>385412525
Hate to B your argument TFO but people have been doing Heroics runs on every monster since before you were born, thus proving that there are no unavoidable attacks or broken mechanics.

You can learn to handle all of it which, again, is the point of MH.

>>385412665
Oh fuck, you're one of those speedruns-are-all faggots, abandon thread

>>385412304
>If monsters are slower, weaker and less agile than the hunter, there's no point in playing.
That's my main issue right now. The series has always been designed around its relatively limited, deliberate nature. It's what made MH still feel unique compared to the anime clones. They can't have everyone doing backflips and flying all over the place when the monsters are still fighting like it's 2004.

>>385412719
Not really, I hate them too. But your argument is nonsensical and easily disproved.

Whenever you die in MH, you know that a better player would've lived. if not then you're being a child, blaming the game for your own mistakes.

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>>385412665
To say that there are no broken hitboxes in Monster Hunter is to deny reality.
What I was trying to say is that you can not and should not base a monster's difficulty off of things that are not part of its design, but rather a hold-over from the technical limitations of its time.

If Yian Kut-Ku had hitboxes that actually fit its model and attacks, it would be significantly less of a challenge.

>>385412719 is not me by the way.

>>385412808
We both know why it has to be this way. MH looks really boring. Just some guy standing around, swinging a weapon and rolling. In this age of youtubers and streaming, they need a game that looks awesome.

I think XX had a great compromise in setting Guild mode to default, sort of like how Fire Emblem Fates had a mode for anime faggots and one for people who want to get fucking rekt.

>>385412971
Yian Kut-Ku doesn't have broken hitboxes, people just greatly underestimate the range of its attacks. When it's charging, you getting hit in the head by its wing or by the tail when you're behind it is going to hurt.

Plesioth is the same, the hipcheck hits you when you're behind plesioth because it curves its body so the tail smacks you right in the face. The real issue is that the attack comes out so fast that you can't see it.

>>385412861
>if not then you're being a child, blaming the game for your own mistakes.

I mean thats a needlessly black and white way to view it though. There are some objectively horrible hitboxes in this series, a "better" player could certainly learn which hitboxes are bad and what you have to do to avoid them but it doesn't mean it's not a bad hitbox.

If I die from a spin hitbox and blame the game you can definitely say "other people do this fight without getting hit" and you'd be right but it doesn't erase the fact that i'm 10 feet away from the monster and still being hit by it.

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When can i start playing online?

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>>385413135
Ok I get what you're saying with the hitboxes of Kut-Ku and Plesioth. but the problem is that most of the time those things don't actually happen.
You will still take damage from behind a Plesioth hipcheck regardless of if the model is actually touching you.
Granted, these hitbox issues have been getting fixed with subsequent releases, but they are still there.

>>385404019
je sois monte

>>385403189
I dunno. After seeing frontier and online I guess I'm being wary about world. There are plenty of things that can go wrong and we've already seen what capcom did with generations, not to mention dead IP after dead IP.

>>385404019
Literally fucking tonfas. What were they thinking.

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>>385413169
I don't know, this isn't dark souls 2. The hitboxes aren't bad because "I was 10 feet away from the attack" but more like "I was hit by the foot during a tailwhip". Do you have any videos of said hitboxes so I can see in closer detail what the issue is?

>>385413259
That's not true, that's why there was always a huge blind spot in Plesioth's hipcheck between where the spikes on the tail and spikes on the head are about to meet. This picture shows where it is - Imagine that Plessy is a very curved crescent.

>>385409914
Sure

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>>385402596
If you miss it that much just to back to Tri/MH3U, those games still exist.

Leave that shit out of MHW please.

>demon mode wields and attacks like Strider
>also has a move that looks like brain splitter
I don't like DB but muh dik

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i haven't played since MH:FU and i cant wait to be an LS shitter again

>>385413473
it is the passion of a hunter to hunt new monsters in new locales with new weapons. That's why I have a PSP and 3DS.

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Like this shit would never happen in any monster hunter.

>>385413208
Get as far as you can solo, nobody wants to carry your ass through low rank.

>>385413135
Yian garuga hitboxes though. Fuccccc.
>he goes 0 to 100 faster than sanic
>he moves half a step, by half a step I mean half a step
>full enrage charge damage taking 75%-80% of my HP
Fucking 140 garuga. Unplayable with normal roll bow. Only reason I'm okay with that pos ass is because greatsword destroys his ass with preemptive dodging.

>>385413829
so once i hit high rank?

>>385413873
Garuga takes like no Gun damage, at least in MHFU.

>>385413912
Uh I think you should be able to solo highrank. I actually recommend this combination of playing if you're not playing generations as that game has ass for balance and teaching.
>new monster?
Solo first.
>farming for armor or pieces after you beat it?
Multiplayer to speed it up.

>>385402596
Gobul is the coolest monster in the series and you can't prove me wrong

>>385402596
So where did that information about Gobuls in MH3 being wee lil juveniles and that adults live in the deep sea came from? I don't remember that in game
But i do want to believe it so i can dream about fighting huge ass adult deep sea horror Gobul

>>385414062

nibelsnarf was pretty cool too

I think they're both ugly as fuck but I liked seeing something that wasn't some other wyvern

>>385413993
I was talking about 4U. One of the latest games yet they still keep that monstrosity the way he is. I guess he exemplifies dodge first attack latter by how slow his recovery animations are but its still fucking insane how he goes from 0 to 100 and has full damage hitboxes or how his hitboxes are so bad at times that you can literally stand in them and get moved by the body but not get hit at all in 4U.

>>385413912
Get as far as you can in high rank solo, you will get better. I don't know what game you're playing but most people are probably grinding endgame so you wanna get as close to the highest rank as possible

>>385413873
>Garuga fucks around near the ledge on Arena
>run up to it, jump off the ledge for jump attack
>the hit does not connects as i fly away with more than half of health bar gone
>half a second later he starts the forward rush animation
That was fucking disgusting, especially after noticing how pretty tight Tigrex's hitboxes became when i managed to roll out of pain train between his arm and chest
Just ew

>>385413685
>MHFU.webm

>>385414263
Spoiler alert - This will ruin Garuga for you. It's actually the only monster in the franchise whose charge attack you dodge by moving backwards

>>385414282
>>385414056
playing MHGen

>>385414352
WHAT

>>385414062
Yup, such a cool idea and other than the whirlpool attack it feels like a creature that could exist deep in the ocean

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>>385402596
Do MH World have underwater combat? It seems it has the technology to make good underwater combat

>>385414352
Wait. What the fuck. Are you serious? So if I have my bow out and move backwards I will dodge it?

>>385414381
>>385414428
He stops right before the charge hits you and tailwhips, backslips, beakslams, whatever. Sometimes you have to I-frame the very last moment.

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>>385414130
>I liked seeing something that wasn't some other wyvern
I feel ya on that. There is something special about fighting something that isn't a wyvern/dinosaur

>>385414539
Might have to try it against frenzied garuga but not sure it will help with the instant charge since I get hit by the first few frames since I'm practically standing in range of his face due to critical distance. I did notice the prick stopped moving exactly where I stood when guard advancing his charge and attacks with lance. Never put two and two together.

>>385402596
Hey anon, do you know exactly what I DON'T miss nor want to return to monster hunter?

______________underwater combat_______________

>>385414673
my favorite are big crustaceans but mammals are cool too

>>385414729
The variant in gen has that gigganigga charge with wind pressure and everything, better stay far far away form that.

>>385414673
I loved fighting this douche and the zamtrios... even though zimzamfamalam kinda ignore your criteria.
Spider was cool ._.''

>>385414425
no

>>385414352
This is how i fight garuga. Try to get him into rage mode as fast as possible and bait the charge into beak slam so i can GS his face. He's the one monster who's more of a pain outside of rage mode with the constant peck peck peck peck

>>385415407
It was a revolutionary discovery for me, I've been playing MH for 4000 hours and for the first time EVER I successfully dodged a charge by just moving back

It's one of those things that make me feel that despite everything, 4U was a step in the right direction

>>385402596
MH3U was the best MH game overall

>>385415675

I have a soft spot for the Great Jaggi fight and the Moga Woods free hunt mode.

>>385415675
Hahahahahahahaha!! no.

It is an irrefutable fact that 4U is the best one, but you already know that.

>>385415407
Yeah his tail as I said in >>385414263 cannot hit you if you stand at the right distance because the hit box ends early allowing you to charge a lv 3 within his 360 tail spin and destroy his face when he turns to hit you. Along with his long as ground slam recovery and other stuff he really is greatsword fodder.

>>385403313
Good thing I have friends to play with

>>385415675
simply epic xD

>>385413685
The Ancient Dragon in DS2 is genuinely, literally and without question the absolute worst boss of any game ever, ignoring those that are bugged or not real fights. It's so fucking terrible from every conceivable angle EXCEPT for the concept. "Fight giant dragon" sounds good. Everything else is an utter travesty, an abysmal wretched waste of the resources spent making it. What a fucking disaster.

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>>385403037
>You mean getting your ass kicked by it like every monster hunter seems to do now?
>Not having fought Lagiacrus so many times that you barely ever even get hit by it in the later games

>>385415997
4U can't be best because it doesn't have the Moga Sweetheart and there's no fucking CONSOLE VERSION. I am so utterly sick of my hands getting cramped the fuck up from having to pinch that shitty slidy circle pad shit down so hard.

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Is this how frontier feels like?

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>>385409015
>New Dark Souls XD lmao titles on every video

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>>385416537
No, this is.

>>385416430
1-No moga sweetheart but Sophia is just as good if not better, you silly fucking doodle, she also have good taste in monsters.

2-Your hands are deformed because I never get hand cramps, that or you are a clawfag.

>>385416430
>I am so utterly sick of my hands getting cramped the fuck up from having to pinch that shitty slidy circle pad shit down so hard
this

>>385416782
How big are your hands. Post pic.

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>>385416782
I'm no artist. I have a regular size N3DS, though the problem was identical on the XL due to having nothing to do with size. The red represents fingers. The green represents MASSIVE STRAINING FORCE to maintain grip on the circle pad piece of shit. If I don't do this, my thumb slides off immediately, there is absolutely no texturing and only the tiniest hint of a dip on the stick. Due to the nature of how it moves sideways rather than tilting like a normal stick, maintaining friction is the only way to keep it in a direciton. Doing this for very long at all puts massive strain on the tendons in my wrist and at the base of my thumb.

I cannot believe anyone at all can maintain friction on that completely smooth little bitch without straining similarly.

>>385414673
I like the dinosaurs desu

>>385409015
Watch the horror. You thought NA pubs were bad already? JP pubs are even worse because they have kids playing and those kids grab up supplies faster than a fat kid in a candy store. Now imagine JP pub tier fat kids but instead they're NA youtube comment tier. World pub multiplayer will be filled with MLG swearing kiddies unless they remove interactivity or the game is ass enough they don't want to play it. Sometimes being niche is a good thing. I guess I'm playing solo or with some weird friends.

>>385417314
wash your hands
wipe the pad clean
now you shouldn't slide off.

its your thumb oil thats causeing the slipperyness, also your not supposed to press down on the thing, its just slides around with minimal force.

>>385417658
>struggling against monster
>thumb gets the tiniest bit sweaty
>slides off constantly, guaranteeing death

>>385417761
use your thumbnail to help out
or use a finger condom

or stop sweating

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>my oversized retard gorilla hands are finally free from the curse that is the 3DS
thank god for World

>>385417314
I for one agree that little bitch has 0 friction. That's why I don't even put my thumb on the circle pad at times. Unless it's for minor precise movement during fights I actually push from the outer edges and it just werks. Also I use the base of my palm to hold my 3ds from the bottom corner up and have the lower part of my thumb/ palm area hitting the dpad directions when needed because moving my thumb there is a very painful thing.

>>385417876
Hmmm, I know, how about a textured, mildly high-set thumb stick that tilts, like everything else available on the market for every other gaming device, and for good reason.

>>385402596
Reminder that everyone making these threads is on either Sony's or Capcom's payroll.

>>385418090
Where do I sign up for this?

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>>385417314
Dunno man I do the exact same holding.

*red is behind the 3ds.
*dark red is over the 3ds.

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World is going to be as bad as Generations isn't it?

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>>385417314
>>385418163
>not playing it the way it is intended to be played

>>385418248
Na man, it will be fun Actually I'm worried about the monster roster and the way DLC will be used and if there is going to be G rank or not (possibly not)

>>385418421
That will kill your fingers anon, you are meant to control the virtual d-pad with your right finger at the right side of your screen.

Claw is a meme, it is just better to roll while adjusting the camera.

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>>385418421
>clawing

disgusting degenerate scum

learn situational awareness , clawing means you want lockon.

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>>385418703
>>385418715
Clawing means you want more control. Like driving a stick.

>>385419343
Except that diving sticks don't fucking mutilate your fingers and actually give you more control?

Unlike the claw that is just retarded, good luck gunning btw.

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>>385402596
I don't.

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>>385402596
https://twitter.com/Kyoufu2011/status/890918442148257792

Every new game Dual blade users are getting closer to Levi.

>>385402596

underwater was dope because it added a new dynamic to weapons. gunlance and switch got increased mobility. and having the monster flail on land was just a bonus.

>>385403189
The initial reveal trailers for the game focused a lot on new gimmicks and that combined with the new open world made people skeptical that MHW is going to be such a gargantuan departure from the older MH games that it won't really feel like one anymore.
Personally I'd say that was them not doing a particularly good job of showing off the game. I was extremely skeptical after the first trailer but now that we have a bit more information and gameplay I'm definitely looking forward to it.

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>tfw hammer main
Feels good man. Hammer is such a great weapon. You need to learn every single move and step of the monster and then use you opportunity to hit it with the full charged attack. Especially with the KO ability it's glorious. You stun the monster up to 3 times in a hunt.

Feels fucking good knowing your teammates can deal insanely damage because you knocked the monster out.

>>385420520
Gotta agree with this. The initial trailer was awful, but after seeing gameplay that's not the gimmicky shit, I'm a bit more confident now.
That said, I don't think it'll meet Capcom's sales quota at all, unless they plan on using millions and millions of dollars for marketing.

>>385402596
Is anyone else worried that all of this new mobility (grappling hook, strafing with bowguns, the really sick slide-dodge thing going on with the bow that lets you charge and aim while moving,every weapon getting hints of aerial style, etc.) are going to make the game way too easy if they don't massively improve AI from the previous games?

>>385420720
How does it feel to be inferior than LBG, IG, CB and SnS in your own KO gimmick?

>>385421024
I love shitting on hammer mains as much as the next guy but you're really stretching it saying IG and SnS (doesn't really count since X is probably going to be the only game where SnS has so much KO ability)
Also LBG is just absolutely busted with anything relating to status so I would say that doesn't really count either.

>SA and GL are going to be trash again

Guess I'm sticking with ranged weapons, CB and Hammer...

>>385417598
I had a far better experience with X and XX's online than 4U and Gen's.

Tri had the best online though. Like, by far.

>>385420889
I was worried for years about MH rotting on 3DS. Now my worry is gone.

>>385421024
>hammer
>inferior in KO to anything you listed especially SnS
Ay lmao'ing at you

>>385407336
Retard.

>>385404019

>even more anime than XX

monster hunter is ded

>>385412525
>Frontier
>bad hitboxes and unavoidable attacks

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>>385404019
Mmm yes, just how I remember it

>>385421239
>>385421439
>IG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQJhbNvCqfs
>LBG
Well even if the weapon can get into broken territory using some specific sets it still counts, hell even common stuff like rathling gun have RF crag shots and lost musket just bring KO into a new level of stupidity.

>>385420520
The game isn't open world.

>>385421710
Hammer still KOs faster than the fucking IG on a lvl 140 Teostra. Also, you need to optimize the Kinsect to perform that way, which nerfs the weapons true potential with the nectars.

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>>385421701
Jesus

>>385422343
Excuses, as expected from a subpar weapon main.

>>385421701
Good ol' MHXX

>>385421701
What the fuck did they do to the uragaan. This is probably the monster they ever created. And it's especially fun and easy to hunt with the hammer.
That attack looks like aboslute garbage that doesn't even makes sense.

>>385422653
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lpMMwWGhJs

>>385422653
*awoos at u*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EqlM--T5pA

>>385421701
So, how it is one supposed to scape that attack anyways?

>>385409841
You could just hold the dodge button and press up or down in 3U, you doofus.

>>385422889
Same way you avoid Amatsu's tornado

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>>385421710
>takes nearly 30 seconds to KO the teostra while dealing basically no damage

>>385411504
So there are really people that avoid platforms based 100% on company loyalty... Jesus... Enjoy missing out on 3U and 4U as the best in the franchise, it's a cool series.

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>>385422523
IG is my second most used weapon in 4U. I'm talking from personal experience here you fucking retard

Hammer > IG in terms of KO

>>385420889
i do, personally ever since MH4 things have been getting way too easy, especially with all the new weapons and hunting styles, level 140 quests in 4U was bullshit instead of challenging. most of the time i still try to replicate the difficulty of the older titles by not mounting or using any hunter arts while in guild style and not using ezmode weapons such as IG and CB

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>>385422813
Holy shit, the uragaan got shat on. It looks like absolute garbage there.

>>385413473
Yeah, wouldn't want anything GOOD to be in World with it looking the way it is so far.

>>385402596
As a lance player I can say they were alright.

>>385422813
Fucking frontier should be renamed AOE hunter.

>>385403189
I'll never trust Capcom not to fuck something up until proven otherwise.

>>385423435
>lance player
I genuinely ask you, how? I never understood that weapon. You are even slower than with the GS and to actually get some hits out is not satisfying. I mean, if you use the lance to just stand there and block and get 3 hits out, that aren't even strong, you could also just get back, wait till the monster finishes an attack or just dodge and hit it with an actually stronger weapon and deal more damage.

I don't understand that weapon. Seems to me that this weapon ios designed for the real pussies out there.

>>385423774
not that dude but dodge lancing can be OP as shit and the stab stab stab hop combo is fast

also in X/XX, adept and striker make lance pretty fun with all the shit it can do

>>385423774
In Tri it was still possible to advance guard through just about any attack and in the water the lance had the advantage of relatively stable animations and not being made to flail around like other weapons.
You could also turn into a torpedo by using the charge move.

>>385423774
>getting only 3 hits in

I'm no Lance main, but after the 2nd (or was it the 3rd?) hit I usually do a counter to reset the combo and repeat as much as I want. Or I would just hop sideways to reposition myself. Hopping with the Lance is actually fun

In Gen it's kinda different since Striker Lance charge was the rave.

Any new hammer gameplay come out since the weapon show case?

>>385423774
Only real men use guard lance, is the only weapon that forces you to get into the monster's most deadly attacks head on, while GS shitters run around like headless chickens lance users are in the heat of the battle, blocking, countering, poking, charging no time to stop, lance don't wait for openings, lance MAKE the openings.

Well and then there is evade lancing that is broken as all fuck and only faggots use.

>>385423774
Once you get the feel of that i-frame on the sidesteps and hops, even without evasion skills lance will turn out to be a pretty fun weapon to use, guard lancing initially demands armor skills in order to function properly but now that there's adept style in x/xx, guard lancing is as fun as dodge lancing even without armor skills at all.

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>>385402596
>I miss underwater hunts!
i dont

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>>385404019
finaly in a mainline game

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>Mfw funlance becomes more fun.
>Mfw it gets a literal pilebunker attack.

Where's my bro's at? How hyped are you?

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>>385425091
>it keeps the heat guage

>>385425091
Why gunlance is still a thing? fuck that bastardized version of the lance.

>>385417598
>not always bringing your own supplies
>ever relying on LR supplies in the first place

>>385402596
>close combat game
>underwater

It was an awful mechanic OP. The controls were absolute ass and the hit detection was all kinds of fucked.

>>385412187
Can't see shit, captn.

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>>385425281
its fun with friends

>>385404019
that looks dope as fuck

>>385425091
>tonfas for mainline died so that ig and gl can steal its gimmicks
Not hyped

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>>385404019
Good lord, it's literally just fucking tonfas

I guess anime trash is okay if it's on a washed out looking console game

>>385422813
>>385422849
Why can't the Frontiershit team come up with anything less retarded than turning every single monster into AoE shitfest?

>>385423209
>Uragaan in mainline
>Constantly rolling
>Is a cunt
>Uragaan in Frontier
>Actively moves towards you
>Aggressive while also being fair

If by shat on you mean improved in every way possible, I agree.
If you mean it was ruined I suggest to go fight Steel or god forbid Crystalfuck.

>>385426160
>doesn't roll as much
Well, okay.
>instead rolling is replaced with even more cancerous mechanics
How's that any better?

>>385426160
>Wanting massive AOE shit infused monsters
You have to kill yourself now anon, there is no other cure for your shitpost.

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>>385404019
Yup, it's shit.

>>385426049
Because the boring base uragaan and zinogre are still in low rank frontier for the casul mainline cucks to fight. Frontier versions are for the big boys.

>>385404019
>anime is only okay when it's not on Nintendo

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>>385426429
Nah, I'm pretty good.
Frontier monsters have a good mix between AOEs and physical attacks, usually combining them both in the same move as well as balancing them out so that they can be dodged/evaded/blocked easily with practice. So I'd vastly prefer them to stuff like Dreadking.

Of course, I wouldn't expect someone who's never actually fought the monster themselves to know this since it's all just trickle down knowledge from watching a youtube video once.

>>385421701
SUCC

>>385426514
Frontier was shunned for years because it's anime and on Sony.

>>385409062
>IG Gets his extracts
>Runs away
Seriously what is with the fucking obsession with running away from the fucking gameplay?

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>>385425943
>Washed out Console
>MUH PS2 MODELS AND 280p!!!

please kys

>>385410029
Can you capture it?

>>385426846
Frontier is still shunned and should continue to be shunned no matter how much Rhyperior shills it

>>385427138
>anime is only not okay when it's on Sony

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>>385427138
Don't care if you hate it, but I want you to hate it for legitimate reasons like sub free and not translated.

Not "There's no positioning" or "It's all AOEs!".
Because both of those things are false.

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>>385403189
It looks far too casualized and flashy.
>4U
Mounting? Fine, I guess. I mean, it's just one thing. They have to innovate somehow.

>Generations
Arts? Styles? I mean, I gave them a shot, but I didn't like them. Barely played ten hours of Generations. Maybe it's be better if they tweaked them a bit.

>World
>grappling hook
>running while drinking a potion
>no flexing animation
>no picking up items animation
>barely any carving animation
>air dashes
>quest markers/pathfinders
>can teleport back to base at any time
>can switch weapons while on a quest
Nope. I'm not buying this shit. This is barely the same game anymore.

>>385427237
Except everyone shat on gen and XX for it

The anime is clearly here to say no matter what platform it's on

>Liked Monster Hunter but didn't like how it was a good bit too slow
>Wanted to play Frontier because it looked faster and more crazy but JP only with actually enforced gaijin ban
>Hyped for Monster Hunter World since it seems to get a good bunch of stuff from Frontier
Fuck true Monster Hunter fans, I just want to have some fun.

>>385427561
kys

>>385427561
You're on the frontier of autism.

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>>385427364
>>grappling hook
only in a select few specific places
>>running while drinking a potion
the way your health returns and other things have changed to accommodate this
>>no flexing animation
your only valid point
>>no picking up items animation
straight up untrue, and even if it's quicker now, you get far less items from it
>>barely any carving animation
the fuck are you on about? the carving animating is LITERALLY the same as it always has been
>>air dashes
ONE weapon, and the latest gameplay footage shows that it has a heavy stamina cost
>>quest markers/pathfinders
literally less casual than psychoserums and paintballs
>>can teleport back to base at any time
only when out of combat, and farcasters already existed faggot.
>>can switch weapon while on a quest
so?

>>385427471
Because it's only natural that a fantasy something becomes more and more fantasy as time progresses. Look at lightsaber choreography from back then and now for example

>>385404019
Looks like toukiden/god eater/other failed MH clone

>>385427743
>and the latest gameplay footage shows that it has a heavy stamina cost

Wait what.
Has there been more than the weapon showcases or are you just pulling facts from thin air?

>>385427874
Read the fucking thread you cock

>>385427743
>running while drinking a potion
>no flexing animation
These alone are pretty big though.
There's s a possibility you will be able to restock on potions in the base camp too.

>>385427918
Oh.
Thank you.
It's just a roll's worth of stamina.

>>385428061
They already confirmed that you can't get potions from the base camps.

>>385428061
>There's s a possibility you will be able to restock on potions in the base camp too.

Don't tell me you've actually run out of potions on a mission before.

>>385427743
>>>grappling hook
>only in a select few specific places
Such as right back onto mounted monster that just shook you off. Truly not casualized at all.

>>>air dashes
>ONE weapon, and the latest gameplay footage shows that it has a heavy stamina cost
It was shit when it was just one weapon in Frontier, and it's shit now. I'm not going to start dealing out double standards.

>>>quest markers/pathfinders
>literally less casual than psychoserums and paintballs
At least you have to make those items on your own and have the choice not to bring them. Now you just always have a direct path to the monster at your disposal. Totally not for the casual players, though. It's for, uh... quality of life! Yeah, yeah that's it!

>>>can switch weapon while on a quest
>so?
So you're not punished for being unprepared.

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>bought a Switch because I like portable MH but the 3ds screen resolution was starting to give me eye cancer
>get max hype when they announce XX with crossplay and cross save

>E3
>lol no localization for u fuccboi
>pls buy our game and season pass for 99.99 plus PSN™ tip for 59.99

>>385428195
That's good to know. If it's true.
>>385428242
I might have when I just started playing this series, but not recently. Anyway, the changes don't really concern the veterans directly. But they do concern them because of the people they will have to play this, and how these changes will affect their playstyle.

>>385428278
>At least you have to make those items on your own and have the choice not to bring them. Now you just always have a direct path to the monster at your disposal. Totally not for the casual players, though. It's for, uh... quality of life! Yeah, yeah that's it!
and you have to find monster tracks for the scoutflies to tell you where the monster is
you also have the choice of just not fucking using them.

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>get 4U
>realize I never actually tried the Charge Blade, mostly use Sword n Board
>struggle with it at first, can't quite figure out what the fuck I'm doing
>mfw after several hunts later
Why the fuck is this thing so much fun?

>>385428278
>So you're not punished for being unprepared.

The "punishment" in previous games is that you had to lose a whopping five minutes restarting the mission.

>>385428480
Very simple, but very satisfying concept: guard when attacking, attack when guarding.

>>385412971

>If Yian Kut-Ku had hitboxes that actually fit its model and attacks, it would be significantly less of a challenge.

But it doesn't, so it's not. It makes no sense to do what you're doing, and judge the degree of challenge based on what you think it ought to be, rather than judging it based on what it actually is.

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>Capture Lagiacrus in the flooded forest
First time I failed a mission

>>385428334
>bought a Switch because I like portable MH
No you didn't. You bought a Switch before the announcement.

>>385428785
This shit was legit infuriating. Almost snapped my 3DS in two.

>>385428850
Do you get a surprise every time you see the sun has, once again, risen? Are you literally incapable of predicting the future? Monster Hunter on Switch was a foregone conclusion.

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>>385428670
I said that the 2 new monster we've been shown have been stated to be Kut-Ku tier, and the other anon replied to me saying that they must be weak because they aren't as "challenging" as Kut-Ku.
My point was that without the broken hitboxes, Kut-Ku's perceived difficulty would be on the same level as the 2 new monsters.

>>385428785
>didn't bring any extra traps because i was sure i wouldn't fuck it up
>accidentally drew my weapon when trying to throw a tranq bomb and fucked it up

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>>385428593

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Aisha best girl

>>385429292
The concept doesn't work with any weapon though, let alone the GS.

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>>385429119

>Kut-Ku is hard
I want casuals to leave. Unless you meant
>BYKK is fun

>>385428850
No shit I bought a Switch before the announcement. 3g, 4, 4g and X sold combined more than double that of the entire vita library in Japan.

It was a sure thing that they would want to continue that success even if they fell just short with XX

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>>385403189
Long time Monster Hunter fan. Played

>Monster Hunter 2
This back when I was a kid. I sucked at it, but I tried my best. Pre-internet age for me so I had no idea what the fuck I was doing.

>Monster Hunter Freedom Unite
Only on the Vita years later I found this gem. So far it was my favourite Monster Hunter of all time on how long it was and how the mechanics worked. Got all the way up to G rank tier, but I was terrible at this point. High rank village quests (7 or 8 star) had me quitting, because I just didn't improve.

>Monster Hunter Tri
Sadly I emulated this one on the PC due to not having access to it on console. I enjoyed the hell out of it, but pretty much played casually and my PC couldn't emulate it far enough.

>Monster Hunter 3U
I got a WiiU and bought it on that. It was the first time I got to play online with people and make it all the way to G rank. It got quite boring in how people framed only certain monsters, but never the less I was finally learning how to be better with GL and other weapons.

>Monster Hunter 4U
Finally caved in when this game came out and bought a N3DS. I loved this game. I was surprised how years of practicing were bearing fruit. Village was too easy for me. Mounting too easy, but I was doing G ranks solo in no time and the game never. Got all the way up to G3 and killed every monster and DLC monster there was. I only avoided guild quests because they felt like a big waste of time.

>Monster Hunter Generations
Picked it after 4U, quite fast after it. I enjoyed arts, deviants, prowler and a lot of the other new QoL improvements. However the game was too easy at this point. Perfect evades and such made my main weapon breeze through most content, so I picked up weapons I'd never used. Hammer came to be my new favorite. I learned to love bowguns and bow felt too easy mode. This game made me finally get out of my comfort zone. I hunted dozens of deviants and hypers solo, but eventually it got boring.

I can't wait for MHW.

>>385422849
How are you even supposed to fight this thing with a slow weapon? Those turns are insanely fast.

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>>385429331
>no high res Aisha to chill in your house in worlds

>>385429475
Exactly, Capcom knows the Vita sucks dick so it was obvious they would make new MH for the Switch and not the Vita.

>>385429714
you use the styles that turn you into *teleports behind you* -tier fasgt

>>385429854
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j679MphXJew

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>the new attacks for hammer in World

Hammer stronk

I lost a bet and now my friend said I have to play DB for at least 10 hours when World comes out. How fucked am I?

how do i get good with greatsword?

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Any horn bros anticipating much difference? Looks like there's a few nice new moves, the double hit into perform, second double-hit into encore, and I like that the weapon glows the colour of the melody you play now, should be easier to keep track while writing songs. Also, the reach seems improved even further, the reverse overhead swing on the new weapons showcase looks like it shouldn't reach at all.

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>>385429721
She had to stop coming back eventually, anon. In a game like World where everything is essentially being westernized, she stood no chance.

>>385430161
Learn the monster's moveset and timings. Like when a rathian turns around, start charging at the right time so you release it the moment she faces you.

>>385429606
>get good
>get too good
>have armor pieces memorized and dick around with mixed sets in every game
>every MH release is a rush to the endgame via multiplayer since solo is not as satisfying
>will take my sweet ass time with MHW, get the Platinum, max my guild card, do all quests and try not to burnout so quickly

I'm excited. The weapon vids made me moist

>>385430174
Plus they might take away that trademark hiiii with regular voice acting

Or even worse, an awful dub

>>385430161
pick a better weapon

>>385430162
I actually like how you can move while playing a song. It's the little things that makes me love the HH even more

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>>385430607
I hadn't even thought about that. Bullet dodged, hopefully she'll appear in the next Switch game or whatever Capcom decides to do to keep the jap audience.

>>385430138
What bet? DB's are always chill, so don't get riled up. Also you can just ignore the bet and exercise free will, but that's up to you!

>>385430607
Gibberish is still in as an option.

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>>385430375
>rushing to endgame via multiplayer
>get too good

>>385430161
Also get familiar with stagger limits, so you can follow up. If it takes 2-3 face hits to stagger, keep a mental tally and nail your hits. If you've hit the left leg a few times, do it once more to get the topple

>>385430162
Huge fan of the new HH range. I always felt unnecessarily penalized for being slightly off. Nothing worse then long ass animations and having them whiff on a low dps weapon.

It's a hidden dps buff. Easily 10-20%. Just hope the motion values don't get neutered

I hope axe mode for swaxe gets some sort of buff in world, like being a baby hammer or something

>>385431027
Did you read that post out of order fuckhead?

>>385429906
>you use anime shit
Of course, why didn't I think of that.

Where can I find all the Monster Hunter World moveset videos? I'd love to see them.

>>385431546
>anime shit in the game that's been anime for years

Who would have thought.

>>385431646
Official MH channel on youtube.

>>385431027
When you've done it all before, incentive to do it again is minimal. Generations was the first where I rushed endgame, and then 100% rushed single player because muh feather. Also having things "unlocked" means I can do what I do best, with more focus/less downtime. MH became less about being a completionist for me, but with MHW that spark is reignited

>>385403189
It should be a big red flag that I, who has never played a MH game before is interested in it since E3 while actual MH fans are not.

>>385409324
GreatSword is the manly choice.

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>>385404019
DELETE THIS SHIT MAN

>>385432234
Most MH fans are interested, actually.

>>385431657
Yes anon, thanks for repeating what I already said.

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>>385432234
>actual MH fans are not

>>385430375
I never rush to end game. I take my time. Before I even go online, my goal is to do every village quest with unupgraded weapons. I can craft them, but no ugprading allowed.

This way it's a challenge. The only major difference with Low and High is monster variety. The monsters are just as difficult, but High rank offers more variety and perhaps slightly faster monster with slightly bigger health pools. G rank is where monsters become near unfair and item upgrading becomes a must.

But I enjoy village. I did every quest in MHG in the village, even the boring fetch ones, before I went online. This way I was prepared. It turned out: Village was harder to do than online, because in online 4 people can seriously strip all the difficulty from hunts and they are over in 2 minutes.

So never rush. Take your time and enjoy. There will be hunters always online, and if you claim you have friends then get better friends. Stop playing with them. They obviously are dumb in that they want to rush the game and be over with it in 20 hours max. You're purposefully letting your stupid friend who most likely isn't even a monster hunter fan dictate how you enjoy your games.

Be an alpha and play them your own way though. Rushing through monster hunter is retarded. It's like playing a Zelda game and getting the final sword before you go into any of the other dungeons.

You might as well not play at all.

>>385431959
You're a shitty hunter, basically. These games are not for you.

>>385404019
so you can fart to air attack now?

>>385432921
You were always able to since MH4. But now you can more than once.

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>>385431743
Thank you anon. I will have fun with these videos with a cup of coffee.

>>385412048
You do realize that the more MH you play, the less challenging monsters will from virtue of you becoming good at the game and getting into the proper mindset, right?

This is why MH games have been "getting easier with each generation", even though MH4 was harder than games preceding it.

I hope world can bring back underwater hunts it's actually a challange but also a blast from the past

>>385409324
But Anon - thats not the HUNTING HORN

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>>385404019
HOW COULD YOU, MH TEAM?!

LOOK AT WHAT YOU'VE DONE!

>>385409062
blood effect can change back to red right?

>>385433421
Yes. They always turn blood off in pre-release videos due to laws over blood in other countries.
Less hassle.

>>385403313
>community

just play with your friends retard

>>385429292
Cool, but I wish MH would move away from all this i-frame bullshit. It makes it too easy.

>>385426889
Extend the video. Most likely if they played serious those videos could be over in a few minutes with nothing to show the casuals.

>>385433901
Just like when we play it.

>implying I'm going to play it

>>385409015
>those video thumbnails and titles
I fucking hate this world

>>385434128
It's all your fault. You just had to blab about MH until the westerners found out, didn't you?

>>385423209
because instead of actual attacks they decided to add magic circle-shaped attacks. It is especially funny when Uragaan could have just rolled straight back and transition into a chin slam that has no extended range but causes tremors or knocks the hunters off their feet. Instead of proper monster fights, everything has become I-frame to win and everything is just Nargacuga

>>385416578
>>385434128

everything about that screenshot is fake you fucking retards

it takes 7 seconds to actually search youtube and look at the results

>>385434416
Wrong person to target that with. It's also not the monster hunter players fault, more the PC crowed who popularized Dark Souls 2 on the PC and made it into a walking meme machine. Did you even read those titles anon?

Dark Souls fans have been nothing but cancer for the past 5 years.

>>385434649
Yeah, but, it was easier to keep MH our precious little secret than to undo the damage caused by Dark Souls. From what I remember those threads were insufferable long before the PC version too.

>>385434617
>implying youtube isn't that cancer
wew lad
you do realize satire is BASED ON something, right?

>>385434802
>From what I remember those threads were insufferable
Dark Souls 1 hardly had any of that. The cancer really started to grow when Dark Souls 2 was released for PC too. Demons's Souls and Dark Souls were just hard and we enjoyed them. Dark Souls 2 comes out and the PC crowd couldn't help themselves into making shitty reddit tier meme's, gifs, trolling, griefing etc. PC exploiting played a huge part in that which was near non-existant on console.

>>385402596
I agree, I k ow everyone was like Hurr bad underwater controls but so what? Monster Hunter is a clunky game in general.

Chasing Lagiacrus underwater felt like a fucking boss battle

>>385404019
Now that IG got boosting, I wonder how long it takes them to make hitzones not matter like they already did to Frontier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU3TpZB3oiY

>>385435041
It was named fucking Prepare to Die edition, they were pretty obnoxious and full of unwarranted self-importance.

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>>385425091
fucken here