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what's the video game equivalent of this?

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what's the video game equivalent of this?
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>>385379073
>good but not great anime that everyone shits their pants over how "amazing" it is

the vidya equivalent is FF7
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>anime where the dub is better than the sub
persona 4
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>>385379073
inb4 mgs2
inb4 Eva 64
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>>385379073
Nier
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>>385379073
Xenogears
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>tell girl I dig her and want to go out
>proceeds to play with my penis until I turn into Shinji Ikari

What video game is like this? Clearly No More Heroes.
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>>385379073
Bioshock Infinite
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>>385379838
shut the fuck up saucy
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>>385379073
>starts off as typical <genre> stuff then shit gets fucked up
Muv Luv
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>>385379073
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>>385379073
Alpha 3
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>>385379073
Xenosaga
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>>385381001
no
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>>385379073
There are Evangelion games you fucking sperg.
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Breath of Fire 4
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>>385382461
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>>385382589
So use your reasoning to figure that he means the equivelant of the anime you fucking idiot
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devil survivor 2 is literally just eva
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>>385379073
Love and Destroy
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>"genre" game that is more about character development and behind the scenes shenanigans than the actual "genre" action, and ends in an anticlimactic defeat scenario, written by a lunatic who just wants to do things his own way
Basically every yoko taro game
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Story wise, either some of the MGS games or one of Taro's games.
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There's a villain in SMT IV Apocalypse that tries to Evangelion the world
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>>385381752
Whats this, and why are the MPE forming an airplane formation?
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>>385379073
Sin and Punishment.
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>>385386292
Most of the blatant fanservice that the series got over the years is pretty okay. Its not like anything from the franchise will ever top NGE.

The problem is with the rebuilds alone, that try to be serious without any real substance.
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>>385379073
Video games are incapable of a masterpiece, so nothing.
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>>385387830
>babby first anime
>masterpiece
(You)
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UNDERTALE!
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Xenogears?
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Mario.
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>>385388403
>It's popular so it can't be good
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>there are people in this thread that liked the Rebuilds
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>>385390123
the rebuilds were great
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>>385379073
Videogames are still on diapers as an artistic medium, so...
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>>385390060
>its pedestrian and lackluster so it can't be good
fixed that for you, try to more accurately represent the argument next time.
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>>385390435
>Implying an artistic medium "ages"
Vidya is already past its peak.
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>>385390123
>>385390418
what movies do i watch when im done with the series
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>>385379073
Xenogears is the usual answer because of the similar themes and strikingly similar way both lost funding and had to make weird design choices as a result with their endings.
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>>385390418
The rebuilds were SHIT
>>385390732
End of Evangelion
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>>385390826
are rebuilds just basically retellings of the anime or what
can never get a straight answer
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>>385390123
>>385390826
I didn't know you liked Eva, Todd.
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>>385390939

1.0 is basically just a better animated version of the first 6 episodes, 2.0 makes some minor changes until the end and 3.0 is a completely separate movie that's unrelated to NGE.
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>>385390967
Sorry friend, you must've mistaken me for someone else.
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>>385379073
Hotline Miami
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>>385390939
No one is 100% sure. There are 3 movies so far.
The first one and most of the second one are a (poor) retelling of the original series.
However, in the ending of 2, everything goes of rails.
3 is uncharted territories.
4 is on NEVER EVER status.

All 3 movies have strong hints that they are stuck in a time loop and is actually a sequel to the series, but that can be the director being an asshole and placing red herrings
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>>385390693
lmao you literally described something as pedestrian and criticize someone for their argument. I'm sorry the show is too deep for you. Love watching people get LYNCHED.
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>>385391760
>LYNCHED
go back
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>>385379073
Probably something involving fighting for humanity and philosphy.
Like Persona 3, Xeno, Nier
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>>385391926
Once you outed yourself as a pleb where did you expect this to go?
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>>385391309
C'mon Todd, we are friends here, if you don't try to sell me things, everything will be fine.
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>>385392073
I just love discussing my favourite Anime, Neon Genesis Evangelion.
Almost as much as I like buying the latest edition of Skyrim and Fallout 4, Skyrim VR and Fallout 4 VR.
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idk about you guys but the the third rebuild was a masterpiece. maybe you guys weren't meant to like the feeling that it gave you; maybe it was supposed to make you sympathize with shinji at the way the world changed around him
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>>385393296
>masterpiece
3.0 was a confusing clusterfuck that opened too many questions that can be answered in 4.0, All the characters aside from Shinji and Kaworu are shit and Mari still exists.
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>>385386292
Based neckbeard blowing Korra the fuck out
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>>385390693
You are a philistine. I bet you're a fucking STEMlet.
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>>385386292
Urge to fuck
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>>385379763
this is the only legitimate answer.
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>>385393296
>30 minutes of terrible overly-choreographed CGI fight scenes
It was fucking trash. Not to mention they somehow made Kaworu twice as impotent as he was in the series, even though he has twice the screentime. Kaworu's death scene in the Rebuild pales in comparison to his confrontation with Shinji in the original series, which is probably the greatest scene in any anime ever.
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FINAL FANTASY 7
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>>385394341
>Kaworu's death scene in the Rebuild pales in comparison to his confrontation with Shinji in the original series
The fucking blood splatter
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asuka is best girl
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>>385394341
>overly-choreographed CGI fight scenes
How the literal fuck else would you do a fight scene you fucking nincompoop
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>>385394587
Im surprised it took so long for people without taste to show up
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>>385394798
name 1 (ONE) better girl
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>>385394485
>Explicit blood makes it so cool dude.
Are you forgetting that shinji had to kill kaworu HIMSELF, with his bare hands in NGE? No bullshit automatic choker. This alone makes it much more meaningful.
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>>385394956
Hikari. And only her.
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>>385379073
Pretentious as fuck and really overrated? The Metal Gear saga.
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>>385395035
Wrong.
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>>385395067
Please go the fuck ahead and explain how NGE is pretentious. I'll fucking wait, shitposter. There's a lot of valid criticisms but pretension isn't one.
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>subfags still thing evangelion has a soft G
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>>385394976
That's what I'm saying, The fake blood splatter with the squelch sound makes it fucking awful.
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>>385395254
My bad, i thought you were defending it and the splatter.
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>>385394619
Not in fucking CGI, for one, and with actual stakes and drama. There's that fucking scene where Asuka fights some random angel while running around on the stupid airship, and it goes on for like 15 minutes. The fight serves no purpose, it doesn't advance the characters in any meaningful way, and there's never a sense that anyone is in any real danger. There's also the dumb opening scene where Mari and Asuka are flying around in space, fighting some random shit.

Fight scenes need build-up and catharsis, and the fights in the Rebuilds, particularly in 3.0, have neither. This is why Ramiel is one of the most memorable fight scenes in the series, despite it hardly being a fight. The confrontation is built-up masterfully, which creates dramatic tension, and the relief of that tension when the operation succeeds, the catharsis, is sensational.
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>>385395354
explain how a non computerized fight scene would work in a computerized anime you fucking pants shitting fuck face dummy
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Probably dragon's dogma

>game starts out as a typical fantasy game
>you need to kill a big bad dragon
>you kill the dragon
>you go back to town to tell everyone that you've killed the dragon and now we're all safe!
>everyone fucking hates you because the world has suddenly started falling apart and they all think you've done a deal with the dragon
>all of the villagers want you dead
>it turns out that the world is fucked because you've killed the dragon who was holding the world together, and now the planet is being ripped apart
>the only way to save the world is to go to heaven and kill God so that you're the new God and you can turn back time to before the dragon was killed
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>>385395237
>subfags
>soft G
>エヴァンゲリオン
>ゲ
馬鹿
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>>385395237
wtf is a soft g
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>>385395237
Im not sure which is which, but im quite sure the original greek/latin word its based on have a strong "J" sound, like in "jelly"
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>>385386292
the rebuild series are actually better than the show.

end of evangelion tho is superior i admit, altho 3.33 rivals it
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>>385395471
Are you retarded? CGI and digital aren't synonyms, dumbfuck. The Rebuilds are digital anime that use (dogshit) CGI in certain scenes.
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>>385395585
angel
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>>385395704
>HURRRRRRRRRR I'M SUPER FUCKING STUPID HUUUUURRRRRRRR DUUUURRRRRRRRRRR
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>>385395621
>the rebuild series are actually better than the show.
nigga you best be joking

Explain how the rebuilds are better, in literally any way that isn't "muh animation"
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>>385395592
No, it's a hard G dumbass.
>>385395585
Evanjellyon
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>>385395870
Idiot.
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>>385395870
Mong.
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>>385395237
>>385395808
>>385395878
>mfw americans call the voiced affricate "soft g"
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>>385395989
it's e-van-gel-ion
as in evankellion
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>>385395592
>>385395878
the root word has a soft g, but evangelion has a hard g
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>>385379706
hearing how improved the voice actors for the dub are in the movies always feels pretty good.
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>>385379656
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Persona 3 and Nier match some of the themes. If you're looking for influential, I think Crono Trigger.

>>385379656
Fuck off back to /a/ you hipster retard.
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>>385396192
>he actually likes ffvii
how new
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>>385395621
first movie is a straight improvement graphically, I like how some things were done in the second especially the end was fucking sweet, third movie feels like it was scraped and redone last second.
It's not bad but the time skip is just an excuse to hard reset shinjis and reis characters development and some things never really line up
>the enemy is nerv now but when we see nerv its completely fucked, so what is wunder fighting after shinji wakes up
>seele is mentioned to have gone quiet also so clearly it's not them either? also why the space box angel
>the "fight" between asuka and shinji is also just her vs the little bots instead of a sweet fight of shinji getting his ass handed to him.
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Nier Automata
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>>385396620
>The ending of 2 was sweet
>Asuka and rei are "dead", humanity is fucked. Nice job shinji
>Sweet.
I actually like that anno had the balls to bait and switch with 2, because asuka survived and rei actually died / went missing.
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>>385396620
All of the nuanced character development is scrapped and all the characters are dumbed down. If a person sat down to watch the rebuilds and they hadn't watched NGE before they'd have no idea of the complicated backstories behind all the characters.

>especially the end was fucking sweet
You mean Shinji turning into a generic "screaming really loudly, grabbing the girl and saving the day" character and somehow starting Third Impact through a bullshit mechanic that was literally never referenced before, and then is never brought up again?
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>>385396983
they aren't dead though, did you forget the after credits scene?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWfgVDcq2uU

rei dies anyways given the one in the third movie is clearly just another clone", asuka is also said to be alive just contaminated in the second film.
Did we watch a different movie?
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>austistic fanbase
>surprise twist ending
>everyone wrong about best girl
Yeah, Undertale.
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>>385396620
Why was Shinji in space??

What was everyone doing for 9 years or however long it's been?

How come Shinji can hear REI telepathically and they never bring this up again?

How come Kaworu didn't do anything the entire final fight? Why did he just throw the collar away?

Why was everyone Tojis sister included an absolute asshole to Shinji like they wanted to stab him when he woke up from his coma

Someone help
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>>385397145
you people are never happy with shinji, everyone bitches and moans and complains about how he's just a wimp who gets berserked out of every corner the show ever puts him in, then go and complain when the writers take him in a different direction.

Also comparing 4 movies to an entire season of a show + it's own movie is stupid, these are extenstions to the story it's literally an alternate timeline. Asuka doesn't even have the same fucking name.
People who say the movies should be watched over the show are just as retarded as people like you that call out a movie having less content than an entire series or book.
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>>385397298
Not that anon but fuck you, mark 6 is my favorite Eva and they never use it past two scenes

By the time you see it in 3.0 it's already dead
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>>385379883
This
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>>385395354
>Anyone is in real danger
>Literally asuka getting wrecked and clearly about to die

But yeah no danger
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>>385397530
14 years. They are as old as original misato in 3.33
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>>385397773
>thinking they would actually kill off one of the main characters in a decade old franchise

Sure I thought she'd lose an arm or leg or something but I refuse to believe more than 10 people that watched that thought she was actually fucking dead, hell toji doesn't even die in the original version
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>>385397530
>Why was everyone Tojis sister included an absolute asshole to Shinji like they wanted to stab him when he woke up from his coma
Artificial drama. You see, i have a pretty simple theory about the rebuilds.
>1.11 = episodes 1-6
>2.22 = episodes 8-23 (ends with rei death)
>3.33 = episode 24, the kaworu episode. In said episode, everyone is supposed to be broken and distant, so kaworu steps in.
The rebuild copied the "broken" aspect but didnt gave an explanation of why. There is many possible explanations, and none was given. Most are based around they fearing shinji.
>Shinji is half angel / god after the third impact of even in the rebuilds as a whole
>They fear he can trigger another impact
>He killed everyone they loved in 2.22
But no explanations. Durh
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>>385397597
>everyone bitches and moans and complains about how he's just a wimp
If you thought the rebuilds are good because "lole shinji isn't a wimp anymore xDDD!!111" then you LITERALLY didn't understand the point of Evangelion. Shinji is supposed to be a realistic 14 year old boy who's been told to pilot a giant robot that hurts him when he gets in it.
>Also comparing 4 movies to an entire season of a show + it's own movie is stupid
That's a fucking retarded argument. The Evangelion movies will probably be around 7 hours long in total, assuming that the last movie is 2 hours. Are you saying that in 7 hours the movies couldn't develop ANY of the characters? Also, going with your argument of "T-There's less run-time so they can't develop the characters as much!"

Why in the FUCK did they add like 7 new characters in 2.0 and 3.0 alone? When they have a limited amount of time and only 2-3 hours left to develop them? Why did the add Mari who does nothing but TAKE time and events that could be used to develop characters?
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>>385398000
If I started to think like that I wouldn't enjoy anything. Anytime if watch any show I'd be like hurr main character always wins or whatever the equivalent is.
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>>385379656
fpbp
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>>385398079
Not him, and i mostly agree with you, except:

Shinji isnt exactly a realistic 14 old boy, and the eva isnt the main source of his suffering.
He is pretty much an archetype of depression. Isolationist depression to be specific, and the pains of his life come from the poor relationships he has with everyone. The robots just either further it a little or drive the plot forward.
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>>385395237
dumb phoneposter
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>>385379073
Literally Ace Combat 5
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>>385398215
how many movies have you watched before? do you think mad max might die in the new movie because he's in a "life or death fight" against some other character 30 minutes into the film?
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>>385398079
so you're arguments are:
>they didn't develop any characters
and
>the development of rei and shinji (scenes like rei cooking and standing up to asuka, shinji showing a human emotion outside of fear) are irrelevant because they don't fit my standards

yeah you can fuck off then.
IF you had said you didn't like the development for reasons x or y that's fine but fuck you for saying there is no development while in the same paragraph citing you don't like how shinji doesn't feel "realistic" anymore for piloting a giant demi-god robot against alien angels.
Go blow shit out of your mouth at someone else.
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>>385398874
You must be really fun to take to the movies
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>>385398987
Fuck off back to your containment website, retard.
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>>385398987
I'll assume you're not answering that because you know how stupid it sounds as a question.
SPOILER rey isn't going to die in the next star wars film and the good guys will win by the end of episode 9, also spiderman lives at the end of his next movie AND beats the bad guy!
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>>385398925
Shinji showed plenty of emotions in the original NGE, He actually grows as a characters which is why in the end when he goes into a downward spiral it packs more of a punch. Whereas in the rebuilds Shinji is a generic mech anime protagonist shooting lasers out of his eyes while screaming and saving Rei.
The "Asuka and Rei cooking for shinji scenes" are literally fan-service for disgusting weebs. Although I'll agree that the Rei becoming more emotional is some character development (which is wiped out like, 20 minutes later in 3.0) it doesn't justify the complete gutting of characters like Misato, Ritsuko, Maya, and Asuka who've backgrounds have been completely wiped.

>you don't like how shinji doesn't feel "realistic" anymore for piloting a giant demi-god robot against alien angels.
What's your point?
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>>385397773
lmao this was never even close to the case

Compare this to the fight against Zeruel or the MP Evas. There's a world of fucking difference. Even the retarded angel from Magmadiver was more threatening, because Anno knew how to actually direct back then.
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>>385399862
The Rebuilds pretty much cut Toji and Kaji entirely, both of whom were responsible for arguably the pivotal, climactic moment of Shinji's character development.
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>>385397530
>Why was Shinji in space??
He was sent into space because they were afraid that he could cause the third impact (which he started to do in 2.22)

>What was everyone doing for 9 years or however long it's been?
Most of the NERV staff actually left NERV and became WILLE, a group dedicated to destroying NERV and stopped Instrumentality. Gendo, Fuyutsuki, and Kawori just hang out and create artificial angels and try to advance their plans I guess.

>How come Shinji can hear REI telepathically and they never bring this up again?
Not sure about that

>How come Kaworu didn't do anything the entire final fight? Why did he just throw the collar away?
He was really confused about the situation. He was trying to get the spears of Longinus and Cassius, but he realized that that there were 2 Spears of Longinus instead of the Cassius. He realized that he got tricked (again) and announces that he's discovered what Gendo is up to, but he never actually explains it. After being tricked he just lets Shinji kill him (again).

>Why was everyone Tojis sister included an absolute asshole to Shinji like they wanted to stab him when he woke up from his coma
He almost started the Third Impact on accident at the end of 2.22 and everyone blames him even though it wasn't on purpose. He had no idea what he was doing but everyone is still butthurt about it for some reason. If they had just sat down and explained everything, he would not have run off to NERV.
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Maya>Ritsuko>Misato>Rei>Hikari>Asuka.
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>>385379073
drakengard

monkey island also come into mind
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>>385402228
With Misato that far down I know you must be baiting.
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Gurren Lagann>Eva.
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asuka>*
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>>385401993
>>Why was Shinji in space??
>He was sent into space because they were afraid that he could cause the third impact (which he started to do in 2.22)
No sorry, I misread the question. WILLE wanted Shinji in order to avoid Third Impact (started in 2.22) so NERV sent him and Unit 01 into space to avoid WILLE. NERV probably figured that they could just go back and pick him up whenever they wanted, or that if WILLE got to him first, he could be "rescued" and taken back (as we saw in the movie).

>Why did he just throw the collar away?
He put the collar on as a show of trust. It's one thing if he just took Shinji's collar off, but he takes it to a higher level. He doesn't just take the collar, but he's so confident that he puts the collar on himself and is willing to risk his own life for Shinji. That obviously inspires Shinji and makes him more apt to do things than just no collar.
>After being tricked he just lets Shinji kill him (again).
I should rephrase this as "He just lets himself get killed after being tricked." Shinji doesn't directly kill him in this movie.
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for me there's no other choice
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>>385402978
explain your reasoning dumb penguinposter
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>>385390939
rebuilds are supposed to be a retelling of the original anime, but now its basically gone full retard and took a completely new direction while using characters from the show

the show was about "shinji we need you to unfuck the world" "no i dont wanna" and the rebuilds are more " i want to unfuck the world after being a pussy" "no but you fucked the world up"

and i dont think we'll ever get a 4th one
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>>385379706
That's Cromartie High though.
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>>385379073
Basically any game with mecha that attempts to explore human nature in the middle of a giant conspiracy plot like the Xeno series before it went to Nintendo, Metal Gear, so on and so forth.
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>>385404942
>rebuilds are supposed to be a retelling of the original anime, but now its basically gone full retard and took a completely new direction while using characters from the show
I don't think that is ever what was supposed to happen. I think that is what people may have wished to happen (I sure as hell did: I just wanted Eva with better animations, some minor improvements of the story, few plot holes fixed and characters done a little more smoothly), but I don't think that is what realistically anyone ever really intended to make.

It's just Anno LITERALLY fucking about. It's painfully obvious that he did not want to make it, he had nothing to add to the story, he did not want to revisit it because to him, it's a closed chapter.
But somebody kept throwing money at him and saying "MAKE ANYTHING VAGUELY EVA RELATED AND I KEEP SHOWERING YOU WITH MONEY!" that he gave up and basically made it into his personal random sketchbook of half-formulated random visions.

The entirety of 1.0 is clearly only because he had one single idea for a cool battle.
2.0 has like 20 minutes of running time devoted to a fucking homage to Michael Crichton.
Why?
Well, Crichton wrote Sphere, one of the two main western sci-fi inspirations for Eva. So why not? Does it add anything to the story? Fuck no, but there IS no story. Everything has been told already. So why not kill stuff with random noise like this?

And that Rebuild in a nutshell.
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>>385379706
>anime where the dub is better than the sub
American Dub of Eva is fucking attrocious. Like one of the actually worse I've ever heard.

I think only anime where I can seriously claim that the english dub is better than the original is Ghost fucking Stories.

ARGUABLY Cowboy Bebop, where the english voices kinda just fit the style and setting better.
But Eva's dub is really fucking painful.
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>>385390693
Why is it pedestrian and lackluster?

The animation quality alone (first 5 episodes when Gainax still had optimism, and paychecks) is the best action animation I've seen.

Just go watch the clip where EVA 02 pulls out the knife for the first time and count how many frames they used for it.
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>>385379073
>>385384356
literally this, thankfully someone beat me to it
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What about theory that rebuilds are sequels to the series?
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We already settled this yesterday.
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>>385386374
Super Robot Wars Alpha 3

its a cutscene
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>>385379656
kill yourself
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