Pyre

I lost two round early, and then I started winning everything.... how fucked am I?

any jodi porn yet?

Oh fuck I haven't noticed there's a thread already.

Ending spoilers: I ended up freeing the final demon dude instead of myself for the sake of the revolution.. and immediately felt bitter about it. I'm glad the revolution worked out and stuff but a lame scholar is unlikely to survive alone for long in Double Hell

but how can a visual novel be game oty

>>385374505
You are a bad person.
Not sure about GOTY but it's really good.

>>385374430
who's staying down there with you? they'll probably stick up for you

you've always got falcon ron

Why is the AI suddenly a tactical genius in the Oralech fight?

>>385374505
>sport game
>VN

pick both

>>385373696
the giant lady is so op. it's not even fair.

>>385373696
Because i already finished it
Sandra best girl

>>385375171
Just wait til you get _aes upgrade which gives her unlimited stamina when she has the ball, im pretty sure she's won most of my Rites

Is this game worth $20? Bastion is one of my favorite games, but I wasn't a fan of Transistor. I'm really here for the music and story. The gameplay looks like shit though.

>>385374979
>you've always got falcon ron
Haha

The Moon-touched girl, Ti'zo and Sir Gilman. I let out all of the people who I figured would be the most helpful to the cause.
The ending text did imply I lived since the girl visited me from time to time and the imp lived with me but I'm not entirely sure how'd that work out. The harshness of the Downside is emphasized again and again. At first I thought my reader would try to improve the Downside now that she's done saving Earth but, really, she's no one now. A no one with a whole bunch of enemies she stole freedom from. Former criminals and worse.

At least I'll always have Crystal Waifu ;_;

>>385375761
Gilman's talents are crazy as well.

>>385375829
I had a lot of fun with it. It's like 50% story though. Took me 16 hours to beat.

>>385375076
Because he's you but better

>>385375251
I see that you, too, are a man of culture.
Did you end up freeing yourself?

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>>385376203
No, freed Oralech. I'd rather roam around with my Orb Waifu

>>385373696

Loved Bastion; couldn't get into Transistor. Should I give this a try?

How do I figure out of Sandra has any new dialogue option or not without clicking the orb constantly?

>>385376623
You could do that home. Why down there? Why free the demon?

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the review said it's a sport game that you win to get your freedom so I expected a comfy screaming crowd like a gladiator in a colosseum

turn out it's a magical tournament with no audience

fucking hell. what a disappointment

>>385376784
Eventually she only gets new dialogue when she trials people
>>385376952
If i left then i couldnt get my own bitchin horns.
That and while i didnt really have a reason for letting _ae, Ti´zo and Bertrude i also didnt want to leave them alone down there. Plus Oralech was right in that he wasnt even supposed to be down there anymore

No, I'm not playing Pyre. I'm not terribly interested in games that are mostly prose and the sports bits don't look good enough to make up for that.

>>385376952
Because he already won his freedom and it was stripped from him at the last possible second
The reader, for all they do for the Nightwings, hasn't proven themselves in the same way we know Oralech did. He won the rites when people still cared about them,
presumably
His adversaries, and all others shall remain, to carry out our rightful sentences

>>385377030
>didn't look up any gameplay
What a fucking dunce.

>>385377461
Man you're really taking this in stride I'm fucking wrecked over Being stuck down there.
>>385375838

>you can only sacrifice your high enlightenment characters

fuck my life.... do they lose the items they're wearing too?

>>385378383
No, they're returned to you.

>>385378152
Fuck the scribes fight the power

>>385378587
Remember by whose gift you ascend

>>385377030
you get your audience in time, but it's only for 1 specific stage

>>385378383
nope, they get returned to your inventory

>>385378152
wasn't lendel the one facing off against the true nightwings at the time? he certainly wasn't the best of sorts

in fact considering that the voice was brighton, the current leader of the commonwealth and former exile, oralech being a decent person might have been the exception to a general trend

>>385378689
I didn't ascend though. I just caused a communist revolution back home. Also if the scribes were so great why couldn't they save everyone? Why couldn't they make this hell livable?

>acknowledging that Pyre is a GOTY on /v/
Hahaha shitposterkuns heart gonna stop from just pure rage

>>385378861
To ask that question is to ask why God does not make this world painless and easy,
if you were to take it in a religious fashion
They refuse to judge you, and so they must let your peers do it. If life were so simple, what cause would there be to improve?
A parent must not give into every whim of a child. They must learn to stand upon their own two feet and make this world one that is as simple as you would have the scribes make it.

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>>385378689
nice try voice

>>385379245
OBLIGE THE VOICE DAMMIT!

Did you ever make the decision of who would be anointed for liberation based on who you were facing in the rite? When I saw I would be facing the Accusers I knew it had to be Ti'Zo; get fucked Lendel

Reminder if you didn't like the game after the first few battles/hours, just drop it. It's not getting any better. No, turning up the difficult will not make it more enjoyable.

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Got the reader ending
How many endings are there?

>>385379462
i was planning to throw to the fate, so i anointed rhae hoping that i'd get some dialogue tidbits from her friendship with almer


then the fate won, dalbert anointed his son, and everyone was miserable for a time

Reminder that the game is slow to kick up the difficulty and tactics

>>385381008
if the base gameplay is not fun, bumping up the difficulty will not make it any more fun

>>385374430
Not a single member of your party isn't fiercly loyal to you. Not to mention a lot of your rivals don't hate you, aside from the Accuser and the Crone (who died in my ending). Plus and this is something the game sorely failed to flesh out. There actually IS a society in the Downside.

why are imps so OP

>keep debating getting this game
>Every thread has spoilers I don't want to look at
So is the game fun? I don't much care that it's fantasy space jam, but I'd like a game with a good story and some nice characters.
I've heard it's about 12-20 hours long. Any reason to replay it? Different endings and such?

>>385381889
Imps are the worst after YOU MUST BE OVER 25 TO PLAY THIS RACE

>>385382048
It certainly has a good story. Around 16 hours long. You can replay it but honestly I think it's a game you should only play once. It's even set up in a way that you can't get a game over - you keep on, narratively, if you're defeated and have to live with your mistakes.

>>385382291

I disagree with your sentiment.

I believe you shouldn't save-scum, but playing it again isn't a bad idea, especially if you crank up the difficulty.

It mostly depends if the gameplay hooked you at all.

>>385382291
I think it's worth playing at least a second time. Shake things up, send people in different orders. There is a shit ton of conversations and character building between the characters which trigger depending on who remains and who is gone.

I'd like a game with two narrators competing with one another. One bad, one good. So, you'd have the bad one cutting in and causing bad shit to happen. Bonus points, if the bad one is the DD narrator.

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So are the different endings based on who you liberate, how many you liberate, things like that?
Or is it more like you're just given a few specific choices near the end to choose your ending?

Think I'm about halfway through and I'm wondering if the conditions for certain endings are popping up already

>>385382514
>>385382561
Fair, but I legit think that goes contrary to the game's main theme. You can only go forward!

>>385382812
Think fallout New Vegas.

>>385382048
you will find out very, very quickly whether you like this game or not

>>385373696
How is it? Are there husbands?

>>385382976
Well, kinda. The game's difficulty ramps up kind of slowly, even on hard.

>liberate Rukey after burying his hatchet with the punk doggo
>plan on liberating Jodi next so Rukey has someone to hang out with on the other side
>she starts going tsundere for Ignarius
>not sure if I should keep her in the Downside with Hedwyn, myself, and her new crush

I don't know if I can do that to Rukey...

>>385382902
Technically the games main theme is less going forward and more striving for freedom

>>385383195
[>Keeping Hedwyn in the Downside/spoiler]
Why do you hate love, anon?

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>>385373696
>GOTY

>>385383195
You wouldn't break Hedwyn's promise, would you anon?

>>385383137
like I said before, difficulty has NOTHING to do with how much you enjoy the combat

if you don't enjoy it on Normal, you're not going to enjoy it on Hard, and you're not going to enjoy it with Titan stars. The fundamentals of the gameplay are too strange and new; it either clicks with you or it doesn't. It's a genre in of itself. Think about 4X games: either you like them or you don't, difficulty has nothing to do with it. Same with fighting games - increasing difficulty/playing against better players will not make the game more enjoyable for someone who hates fighting games. The easiest way to think about Pyre's combat is as its own genre. Either you're going to like it, or you won't.

and that's discounting the oregon trail sections. If you don't want 75% of your "gameplay" to be oregon trail, you won't enjoy the game

>>385383289
>>385383434
Hedwyn and I don't leave until everybody else finds a way out, even if that means a lifetime in the Downside.

>Read for 5 minutes
>Play for 2 minutes
>Repeat

People who like VNs will be disappointed and people who want gameplay will also be disappointed.

>>385383650
Life would probably be worse for some of your other party members being freed into the commonewealth. Plus his promise was only to you, Jodi and Rucky. Let the man fuck his bird waifu

>>385383528
Lol

>>385384407
not an argument

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>each enemy team has their own variant of the liberation rite theme

Why are Supergiant such fucking gods at sound design? The way tracks fade into one another is astounding

Fuck, I just can't get good at stopping harpies. They're wrecking me in the liberation when they start cheating.

Came across this video on Gamefaqs. This was like the only video where it shows the final fight and ending.

Also apparently all characters you meet in the game have special character epilogues.

Listened to the credits song. MY GOD that track is awesome

Video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7w715RLiI8

>>385384613
If only those variants were on the soundtrack

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>>385375116
so literally the two shittiest genres in the history of """""video games"""""

>>385384865
>He doesn't like NBA Jam

What happens if you lose a game?
Can you retry?

>>385383048
Strong story, art and music. Gameplay is polarizing at best. Yes there are husbandos but most of them are taken

>>385384781
Who do you have remaining? Hedwyn has that on contact while jumping banish enemy skill, Pamitha and Ti'zo are also good at grounding them especially with the talisman that stuns the enemy after a jumping/flying collision, Jodi's big body might also be good for catching them. Their liberation rite special tactic makes you play defensive at the start of each round but you should be able to turn the tide and maybe try to punish it by banishing the other harps that aren't controlled

>>385385217
You can restart the rites and checkpoints if you go to the menu, but otherwise the game keeps going and if you lose the final rite that guy goes free instead of your guy.

>>385376754
Unless you like visual novels, no.
I refunded it about 45 minutes in. I can see the appeal but it's just not for me.
the art and music is really cool. Again, I just don't like visual novels.

>>385385546
Oregon trail isnt a visual novel

>>385384497
It still sums it up nicely though.

>>385375171
>sent her home first

Am I fucked? I just wanted to protect her smile

>>385386907
Jodi is very strong, but as the ai gets faster and smarter, her slow speed really starts becoming somewhat of a liability. I don't think you're fucked if you let her go at all, the big pressence is nice for sure, but the low hope is also somewhat annoying.

>>385386907
Nah its fine, shes strong but some of the others are outright broken with their masteries and/or trial trinkets.

>>385373696
Pic not related.

When did you most FEEL?

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>>385373696
just finished lib rite 3. i kinda spoiled myself on the number of rites left so i've already kinda planned out who i'm going to free for the most part. already saved _ae, Jodi and Rucky and im probably going to free Hendwyn and harp-waifu next.

i like the combat a little bit as there are exciting moments, but there really is no depth to it. i'm playing on hard and at this point in the game the dominant tactic is pretty much "try to banish one of them then rush with someone who's fast" which works most of the time. i feel like whoever designed the rites system didn't really put much thought into how later-game play would actually work.

overall it's pretty good, probably a 6-7/10 so far, strongest point being the art, music and story obviously

>>385388098
Sending Hedwyn up as he lamented about being unable to fulfill the promise
The last visit to the Blackwagon before the last rite
The credit song

>>385383528
It'd be nice if I didn't have to click "proceed" every short dialog sentence

It's VN section is quite weak. It would be better with a smaller cast of characters

>>385388098
>Essence liberation rite
>Fate liberation rite and epilogue
>Hedwyn's liberation
>Staying with Sandra as the crystal itself was telling me to leave
>"He has found his way home"
Its pretty hard to narrow it down, lots of good moments

>>385388339
i think it's just the ai has trouble on defense, a smart human player would do things like keep a sap/imp/anyone with a big aura near the goal to intercept quick dudes, but the ai always seems to switch too slow and misaim their sapling

it does do an admirable job blocking flying/jumping exiles later on though

>saving _ae
but why

>>385389418
>saving _ae

I was operating on the "children first"
principle, and i didn't know enough about the other's backstory to decide differently. in retrospect i should have sent Jodi first and kept _ae around for at least a couple more cycles

i agree about the ai stuff, but even then it's pretty hard even as a player to stop a fast guy running top-speed and long jumping into your goal unless you're already expecting it. i almost feel like you could enlarge the playing field a bit to make rushing less viable.

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but I am

>>385389961
Yeah the first liberation rite is before you really get into anyone's backstory. That said _ae in one of her earlier dialogues in the first cycle does claim that she has no family or anyone waiting for her on the other side, its kinda cruel to send her there alone and separate her from mommy Jodi and little brother

>>385389115

>It is enough.... It is enough

I ensured he'd get a chance at the rite,
and they put up a good fight. Sandalwood can dedicate the plan to any high ideal he wants,
my spirit boiled against a commonwealth that would send such a kind old Cur to Downside.
The Plan is for the many, but my part, I dedicated to The Fate.

>>385390291
I'm all kinds of thankful I never had to face the Fate in a liberation rite. From what I've heard it's heartbreaking, win OR lose

>>385388098
Finding Bertrude casting a spell for Gilman and getting flustered when she sees you.
It would have been so easy to make her evil, or have ulterior motives that would have made her a terrible character
But they didn't. She's a sweet old lady and I want to protect her smile, however fleeting it may be.
Shoudst thou seek courage, then may bravery soon bloom within thy heart.

>>385390291
"What good is freedom if it means being separated from you Father?"


They fought with me 4 times, each time they popped up I targeted them so that _ae can have a friend/family. I'm glad they got their happy ending even in the downside, I don't think I can stomach doing a run separating Almer and _ae ever

>>385390518
What good is freedom if we are not together, father?

So should I pick it up? The game play looks fun and the story seems interesting, the only negative I see is no online play

>>385390518

You can say heartbreaking, but it's the most beautiful interaction between father and son in the whole game. Almer is livid that they failed, while his father calmly explains that it was striving that makes them worthy, not winning.

I sent _ae up. I regret that now. I'm doing another run, and come hell or high water, the Fate will lose, and that old cur will die knowing the Commonwealth has fallen, and his son will never be alone.

>>385390771
Pick it up if you're looking for a game that is heavy on the narrative and if you don't mind playing sportsball every once in a while. I personally loved it and felt it was an amazing experience. I can totally understand people who it doesn't click for, though.

>>385390869
I love a good narrative experience and the sports ball seems entertaining enough. I might as well

>>385390834
>>385390291
So do you have to face the Fate twice in a liberation ritual to get Almer? When I faced them the dad was the anointed one to go free.

>>385390291
for a second there i thought the game would pull an (postgame spoiler)oralech and almer would fall off the fall of soliam, i had volfred recount the story to me almost prior to that so i was thinking it would be immediately relevant

luckily the old dog's devotion to the old traditions pulled through for him at last

>>385390771
story's great and has lots of possible permutations of paths, art+soundtrack are incredible as expected, and the sports are surprisingly tenable even if you're not into the genre

>>385391024
old doggo anoints his son at the last minute and the fate retire afterward

>>385391024
The dad anoints his son after they win
He is depressed in the commonwealth without his dad, so you need to beat them so they get a happy ending, since you can't ever send both I don't think.

>>385391024

He's pulling a fast one, he pretends he was anointed, then anoints his son and shoves him into the spring. He's an old cur, and dies within two months after the finale. He just wants his son to be free.

>>385373696
I'm like an hour in. Pretty good, definitely better than Transistor.

>>385391208
almer does get over himself and become a civil servant in his ending, using his ancestry to forge bonds with the curs

after bumming him out by throwing, i sent rhae topside with him, and whaddya know, the oldheart name lives on

>>385384865
Like Persona 5's style made turn based battles and dating sim bearable so did Supergiant's style made those kinda work. I cant remember the last game where I read every piece of world building in the game.

>>385389961
do the playing fields differ in size? i feel like the outcroppings on trieste's magma map make it marginally larger than the rest of the fields

not to mention when playing in the glade of lu the roots gradually encroach in on you, even in versus mode

For people mad about sticking behind, I think it was a good option. In the epilogue if you and Volfred remains it say's you're his editor for his newspaper like publication about current events in the Downside. It also suggest you stay in touch with the others. I was more bothered that by outright defeating him, and then claiming the freedom for yourself or the one of the others, he kills himself.
Sandra is great, Bae is the one and only Bae, but I was sad that Jodi Rebuffs your feelings for her. Even tho it made sense, I was still sad. If you want to trigger that you need to use her in a Rite against the Tempers.

I'm just mad I can't plat without buying another controller.

>>385388098
Credit song.
Realizing that I dashed Ignarius's chance to be happy when I sent Jodi home.
Separating Jodariel and Hedwn.
Sending Rukey home early and never getting to find out about his exile on my first playthrough.
Starting a new game after staring at the ending library screen and realizing they were the same place.

>>385392894
The world is pretty cool, though I wish there were more non-rite characters encountered. I like reading the books in their natural form, too, makes it feel more mystical.

>>385393010
It was easier for me to stay behind because the way I set up my Reader, he didn't exactly have much left. His drive was freeing the people who saved his life and gave him company, not freeing himself

What determines whether or not you can send someone back? I wanted to send Rukey back the second time around but couldn't and had to send Hedwyn.

>>385394182
It's your three highest-level guys.

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>>385394207
Well shit, I thought they only needed a bar of enlightenment. Gonna miss him, especially since he seemed so reluctant to go.

>>385394556
He'll be fine if you send Rukey and Jodi along.

In fact, it's actually possible to send everyone back who wants to go back except one.

>>385394779

Sandlewood, Bertrude and Sir Gillman are all OK with staying.
Most other members of the party can find good endings in the Downside

The only actual choice is Reader or Orlech: And it's not a given that you want to go home at that point. As a matter of fact, my Reader was rather fine with staying with Sandalwood and Co.

Granted, I didn't get enough info out of Gillman to be certain of my assessment.

>>385395062
Gillman is better off going back. Fae,
Bertrude, and Sandalwood are the ones that are mostly okay with staying, but Sandalwood is happier going back.

>>385388098

in no particular order

nearly everything involving Ignarius
the fate in general, A Dog and his Boy
Bertrude, because unrequited love always gets me, especially when it's the kind the unrequited is at peace with
Hedwyn was last to leave after Rukey and Jodi, but was still depressed as hell because he promised to get me home
Sandalwood otherwise being the Model Revolutionary, intellectual yet hopelessly in love with his homeland and completely comfortable with helping it rejuvenate itself while never getting to see it again


I haven't Felt this much from a single game in a while

>>385394556

You're really only going to miss him when if/when you fight the essence for a liberation rite.

If you wondered why "Banish the people you jump into" is a capstone ability, you won't afterwards.

>>385395502
Wait what

what mastery is that?

I HATE the Essence fights, especially since I liberate Ti'zo first.

>>385374220
Like two sketches on Paheal.

>>385379139
Less than 10% of what grows in the Downside is edible and none of it tastes good, all but a precious few bodies of water are toxic.

>>385395795

Actually it's tier 2 for Nomads (Hedwyn)

Other useful anti-air abilites include Celestial spike capstone(Demon) and the Titan Tooth Talisman. Accurate jumps with Crones or Savages can snipe them out of the air and both wyrms and imps are good at getting in position to intercept. Savage's salute ability can turn the fumble from an interception into a rapid return if used well.

Anyone know what happens if you screw up the Resistance (if you lose most fights I guess)? I'm curious to know if everyone still has a good ending.

>>385396525
Which path? I usually go right.

My defensive characters don't tend to jump well, which is a shame.

>>385396643
I'm tempted to do a run where I free all my opponents...

>>385396260

And yet people still survive.

The scribes literally discovered a method to breach a supernatural barrier between the commonwealth and downside. The fact it requires remarkable amounts of magical power means they devised the rites to ensure only the penitent and helpful could return. Things kinda got mixed up over the past millennium however.

>>385396698

Left path, right choice. It's a hard sell considering it screws you out of

>>385396643
>>385396698

The triumvirates are more or less divided evenly between dangerous, corrupt and benign.

Letting anyone but the Fate, the Tempters, or the Nightwings ascend is actively detrimental to the Commonwealth, either corrupting it further or literally drawing up an enemy.

If I had to guess, it ends in blood.

>>385396927

-Screws you out of the 2nd or 3rd tier of buffs depending on if you take advantage of burning resolve.

>>385384865
>so literally the two shittiest genres in the history of """""video games"""""
>VAN
>Shittiest game "genre"

That's hardly fair - VN's are practically just E-Books at this point, they don't even qualify as a "game" in certain countries now. Sports games are by far the worst genre.

>oralech literally has 1 hope in versus mode
i guess you run this guy with sandra or not at all

>>385396927
>>385397052
Arguably Hedwyn/Nomads are one of the few if not only people who actually don't mind not getting either tree's capstone. The 2nd tier masteries on both sides just seem much better than the capstones

Does anyone else need to retry harpy fights 5+ times? Everyone else seems to consider the entire game a walk in the park, but I'm having ard time here. Same with fucking worms.

>>385397424
I fucking destroy the birds every time, them and the Fate always fold like tissue paper for me

>>385397424

I found the wyrms a cakewalk, but I completely beefed it against the Harps for the liberation rite.

Granted, I never let the pyre-hearts have a liberation match.

>>385397424
Jodariel and Volfred kick ass against worms.

Harpies make me cry.

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post yfw will of the scribes starts playing

Jesus christ I looked at Oralech's default stats in versus, he has 1 Hope - shattered - 30 seconds respawn time goddamn he needs a hug

I wish they'd kept some quality of life things from actual VNs, like a skip read text option. Replaying might be a grind.

>>385397424
nah, the harp fights were definitely harder than most, tamitha's liberation rite especially

>>385397883
you can hold space

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>>385373696
>overrated supergiant game
>shallow gameplay

Yeah man, what a GotY.

Topping everything that has been released this year? Fat chance.

385398016
>he hasn't played Pyre

>>385377030
>no audience

Ok that's honestly fucking boring.

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>>385397853

Go to blackwagon after seeing Orlech in the distance.

>Whats Ignatus doi- That's not Ignatus OH SHIT!

>"I will have my night... I will have my night."

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>>385397853

Does reaching level 5 enlightenment actually do anything special?

I liberated Hedwyn first and he was level 4 but already had his last skill.
Is it even possible to do that in time for the first liberation?

>>385398071
Why bother? There are much better games released in 2017 and every single Supergiant game is extremely overrated. Their games are carried by the visuals and sound, heavily. But the game has neither the best music, visuals, story or characters of 2017, so how can it be GotY?

I actually like the sport game, but it really wasn't made for a 10-15 hour game. I'm near the end and I'm fucking sick of it. It feels like it was originally made for quick multiplayer sessions.

>>385398609
are you doing it all in one sitting? i split it over two days, i can see how it might grate on you

>>385398326
not that i can tell

>>385398326
probably not for first liberation, you still get a fourth skill if you max out exp so if you want to clear a tree/get that other lvl 1 talent, or go for 2 tier 2 talents on both trees, you could plan around that

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>>385397853

Is there much difference between taking Sandra and the orb with you?

The Voice mentioned traitors about halfway through the game, was he just talking shit? I freed everyone and myself and left Sandalwood, Bertrude and Gilman behind in the Downside.

>>385399210
Sandalwood is the "traitor" since he wants to overthrow the commonwealth.

>>385399210
Voice was just talking shit on Sandalwood; a traitor to the commonwealth, but not to you.

>>385399210

He's talking about you sheltering Volfred.
He can't identify him until he participates in the rites. When he dons the robes again, The Voice understands that the unrest in the Commonwealth is the Nightwing's doing.

>>385399448
>>385399492
>>385399514

right, that makes sense

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>fuck up hard and lose a liberation rite to fucking Manley.
>mfw he comes back to a place that doesn't fall for his jewery, gets booed offstage, disowned and has to spend his days sweeping the streets.

>>385399558
Sybil will have a hard time competing alone when those other two kill themselves before the rite even starts

>Bae and Ti'Zo with unlimited stamina

this shit is broken even with the titan stars and heightened difficulty

you can literally just run in circles and toss the ball into the pyre at 500mph

>>385399951
i dunno why they didn't limit the scaling to like 75% stamina reduction max or something, shit's absolutely ridiculous

>>385399678
is double suicide the only thing people remember about those two?

i liked void() and tap()

>>385400151

It's really hard to get over it. Many of us were itching for a double boss after Sybil.

>>385400151
It's not the only thing, but it does kind of stand out. On the surface the goal of the game was presented as defeating the Camerata. Having two of them beat you to it was kind of a holy shit moment

Goddamn, Master level AI do not fucking play around. That achievement did not go lightly especially after having only played on easy mode

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>lose every rite
>get best ending

>>385400651
master conductor? just pick sandra m8, gal makes those cheevos go down right easy with her 4 masteries

>>385400293
>>385400407
what would a fight vs. those two even look like? they're not all hopped up on process juice like sybil was, and they didn't have the excuse of being in a transistor dreamscape like royce did

just a horde boss?

Man, I really don't like the combat in this game

Who was the best character overall and why was it the Voice

>>385401039
Join the club.

>>385401039

>combat
>in a sports game

thats a red card m8

>>385401091

because logan cunningham is a god

i still liked his role as Rucks in Bastion the most, though

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>>385400759

I don't believe you

>>385400943

I originally thought the point was that Grant was getting processed and Asher wasn't able to bring himself to put him out of his misery (not that it would help.) My assumption was that we'd have a fight with a fully processed Grant who would be reinforced with a fully/partially processed Asher at a breakpoint. I personally would have written it as Grant intentionally modifying the process in an attempt to regain control, only to have the process error-correct and ignore Grant's modifications.

Narratively, having Asher commit suicide seemed rather appropriate considering their relationship; I simply thought they would be doing variations on a theme with all the Camerata eventually being done in by the Transistor and their process research.

>>385401091
And thus, the Scribes have chosen...
Ahem. And thus, the Scribes have chosen...
And thus, The Scribes have chosen...!?
AND THUS, THE SCRIBES HAVE CHOSEN!?
No..
Nightwings!! Reader! What have you done...?!
Also Logan has a mystifying vocal range.

>>385401091
i sure enjoyed his snide derision turning into condescension, then panic, and finally resignation

don't think even his work in transistor had as much emotional range

>>385401241
100% processed grant+asher add-on would be really neat actually

plus it'd set up a nice contrast when you meet royce and you expect him to have ascended...EVEN FURTHER BEYOND 100% and instead he's just you, but better

>>385401098
Alright, glad I'm not the only one at least

>>385401103
That's what I'm referring to
The trials where you have to dunk the orb into the pyres

Like all their other games, I think Pyre had really stunning presentation, a well thought out world and interesting story, but the actual game itself is far from perfect

I enjoyed it, but I felt like the gameplay was getting really repetitive by the end of it all

>>385374220
how? it's not hard even with all titan stars enabled
I didn't try on hard though.
I had to restart final rite once though.
First their game I finished.
Didn't care about transistor or bastion, but this one hooks you up somehow.
Dialogue is a bit heavy written, hard to read.

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>>385401871
I thought it was too repetitive by the time I was done with the tutorial

>>385402139
just don't pass the orb
game gets exiting when you try to fight 1v3

>>385401039
just lose every Rite
Path to Enlightenment is paved by success and failure alike
the only way to lose is to stray from the Path

>when Sandalwood goes telepath and speaks to you in English
What were some of your HOLY SHIT moments?

>>385402412
that whole team turned out to be very decent bunch without bad apples
kind of disappointing, expected some twist but nope

>>385402412
I almost had a holy shit moment: I'd won every liberation rite so when Oralech said "So everyone's worthy?" I thought the game juked me by making me believe that the ending was going to be a downer before sweeping the rug out from under me with a 100% golden ending..

>>385402581
I was so ready for Sandalwood to be a dick after he showed up and was all "I got this shit, we don't need you anymore so you can go now" but no, he was a top bloke.

>>385402764
I waited whole game for him to betray everyone. I guess it is one way to surprise your audience.

>>385401871
i thought the final boss was at least a far better test of skills than the corresponding last challenges in bastion/transistor

the tazal terminals were just a bunch of enemies you had already seen before, some with their sprites sized up/down

and you went into royce with a build designed to beat the men - so bursty, single target damage with maybe something to sweep up haircuts, potentially trivializing the fight if you can chunk 1 of his stages in a turn()

not to mention his ai was pretty crap, and i don't recall any passive/upgrade functions on him

the true nightwings totally caught me off guard by tossing the ball at my charging exiles to disable them before killing them, forcing me to restart twice before i figured out their patterns

ALL ARE NOT THE SAME

BUT THREE SHALL BE AS ONE

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>>385402412
Sandalwood's telepathy was used in great effect, the use of English in key moments really made his character all the more memorable. That he can telepathically talk to you from all the way in the commonwealth and sense you were feeling doubt is downright amazing

Is there a default name for Ayyy? I went to play versus on a save file with no campaign data and she was listed as Mae. Why did they even make her name a choice anyways, it seems like kind of a pointless choice.

>>385404307
imo it should be Gae the Grey

>>385403990
wait hold on

volfred can use telepathy back in the commonwealth? thought it was only possible with the book of rites

that doesn't bode well for the mental health of enemies of the sahrian union

>>385404307
early player immersion, having the voice actually speak your chosen name and a giving _ae the appropriate epithet makes your decision feel significant and invests you in the character

>>385403452
Together on their own
The journey shall be made.
>>385404698
Eh you know what they say: Today's liberators are tomorrow's conquerors, The Commonwealth was founded on well meaning ideals.

just started, not too far into the game but I hope tons of characters will join my team, in and out.

having a small cast and you have to remove them from party is not cool

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>>385404698
Ascended him in the 2nd to last liberation rite. Chose the option to doubt myself because that felt in character and he just poofs in my head. Honestly might just be some newtype, err reader understanding that connects us since when we do the same thing to Oralech in the find peace with himself and give us freedom ending he understands our true thoughts when we reach out to him so maybe we were also subconsciously reaching out to Sandalwood and re-established connection. In any case I'm sure Sandalwood will use his mind crush powers responsibly.

How realistic do you think it is to try and improve the Downside until it is not that hard to live in? The Commonwealth can send resources to help out. You can send entire boats down the river, after all. Is turning it into Australia feasible?

>>385406357
People already live down there normally. It's just not the Commonwealth, and like 10x more dangerous.

>>385405196
why did you all chose to free that demon? fuck him, I want out
the only chance to do so, no other way
I chose myself.
Final rite was with tizo, bertrude and sir gilian
I freed everyone I cared about more.
sir can live in sea
tizo native to the land
bertrude likes it there
win/win

>>385406441
Right. I was thinking about taming the frontier. Forming a stable government with material support from the Commonwealth. Harnessing Imps on an industrial scale.

I m p p u n k

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>>385406445
I uh what, no you misunderstand I gave him inner peace not freedom. He won the rite and gave me freedom

>>385406445
Gilman offered to sacrifice himself for me.
I felt that taking him up on that would be wrong,
plus the demon would do a lot of good for the revolution. He was a good man who just wanted to do the right thing.

>>385397424
>Retrying fights
REEEEEEE HERETIC THE WHOLE POINT IS THAT YOU MUST GO FORWARD

>>385407273
oh, I never lost a rite so that was an option huh
game is a damn VN

>>385407603
True but there are certain times when I thought I would absolutely loathe the outcome. Such as the Withdrawn winning the final rite. Everything else I was willing to role with no matter the cost.

>>385407637
VNs have fail states.

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I just started it, does the reader gender you pick at the beginning matter at all?

>>385407646
>Fight the Withdrawn for the first time
>Lose
>My first loss
>What have I done? If they go free the world is doomed
>Carry that weight with me
>Come the next cycle they're favored to go into the liberation rite against me
>Have just sent Jodariel up
>She was my best character
>Start losing left and right
>Lose to them a second time, securing their chance to face me in the liberation rites AND making them even stronger
>Freak out
>Okay it's victory or death there won't be a world to return to
>Face them a third time
>Barely, barely win against all odds
>I never see them again

This fucking game man

>>385407873
R O L E P L A Y I N G
also they literally recorded several versions of a certain song just so they can speak of you with the proper pronoun

>>385407997
you can set gender in options

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I WANT THOSE FUNNY KNIGHT GUYS IN MY PARTY.

>>385407997


I picked a gender-neutral protag, and the song at the end said "He." It was kinda jarring after being referred to as "They" for the whole game. It would've fit the song too, so I dunno if they just didn't record a version for that or if the game fucked up or something. Seems like an oversight.

>>385408327
We'll get you the best one don't worry

Its a boring turd. Undertale-tier trash.

>>385408442
There's explicitly a They version. Weird.

>>385408327
The best one joins your party right afterwards.

>>385408742

Guess my game just fucked up then. I kinda figured.

>>385406357
Samefag here. I just remembered that you can grow edible berries and mushrooms so agriculture should also be possible. That you stay for several months at the Alcove means that you CAN survive without constantly wandering, too. You can build a non-nomadic society.

The more I think about it the more I realize that it's weird how no one ever mentioned making the Downside itself better.

>>385408881
Because the largest "permanent" settlement needs to rebuild every few weeks because super-storms tear across the land on the regular.

>>385408982
Yeah, that's what I thought at first. The book goes into how you can't stick anywhere for long because of the storms. You lived at the Alcove for "many moons" though. Volfred mentions furnishing the Alcove long ago so the implication is that stuff isn't regularly destroyed over time. The book also goes into how finding food is difficult and one has to rely on eating worms and bugs, but mushrooms and berries seem to grow just fine *inside of a wagon*. It might be that all of the stuff about harsh conditions only applies to some areas but not to others.

Hypothetically, even if you did have to constantly wander, you could create a nomadic wagon-based society powered by imps. Wagon cities. Portable farms.

>tfw Barb insults Ruckey after you let him go
Bitch ass nigga you were never winning.

>>385409369
The berries are described as "used for stress relief" that doesn't sound super edible.

>>385409567
Good point. I guess it's fish and mushrooms, though staying near the sea sounds like a bad idea.

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>all the spoilers
>tfw just reached liberation rite 2
I want to read the thread but this time I really don't want to get spoilers

Also any memtastic reaction images or fanart yet?

>>385410719
Don't read this thread. You WILL get spoiled.
I'm waiting for the Volfred Sandalwood YOU MUST BE OVER 25 TO PLAY THIS GAME shoop

>>385410828
>You must be over 25 to have the riot be a success

Actually paid attention in my second playthrough to the Temper's variation of Never to Return instead of dunking them immediately even on heightened. Couldn't hear it enough to get all the Lyrics but it basically talks about their founder the first exile and his idea of mercy in the flames, then it talks about the virtues the triumverate is built on Strength(well becoming stronger) and Gentleness. I'm wondering now if the other non-nightwing variations also follow a similar format

>>385410719
Its only been 3 days since the game came out, most of us are still properly keeping spoiler tags. That said even the people who've finished the game learn something new from these threads.

Waiting on a "GHOST BLOWJOB WOO WOO" edit for (you) and Sandra

>>385411160
>tfw you don't own a computer

This is probably my favorite game of the year so far.
I don't get all the hate.

I kind of do need to take a break because it gets draining to play but not because of the rites but because of all the text reading downtime, I'm too impatient for that.

>>385412440
>I don't get all the hate
/v/ hates everything that is both new and popular.

>>385412494
word

>>385412440
It's literally just people trying to shit post. And I'm sure I'll get 2 or 3 "head in the sand" posts or some shit, but it actually is. Because half of them in the last threads have been identical posts. Literally identical.

>>385413839
>>385414051
Well I'm not talking about just the shitposting
A lot of people who bought it on steam also are really pissed at it because it's not up to their taste

Who /selfsacrifice/ here? Why?

>>385414136
You say a lot but damn near 98% of the reviews are positive

>>385414275
Because the Reader knew his fate from the start. He was never on the field, fighting for his freedom. He was leading people that did just that.

>>385414289
A good hundred people who actually bought the game and are displeased with it to go out and say something is pretty big, at least for an indie title.

>>385414275
Because I wanted to see what Oralech would do with his freedom.

>>385414439
According to steam, it's 78 people. Against 561 positive reviews. Yeah, that's not "pretty big, at least for an indie title"

Gameplay is too bad to be GOTY.
Otherwise it's pretty decent.

>>385415187
I agree

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so who do I send home first?

I wanna keep the knight guy tho. his mechanic is damn good and he probably love playing this sport

>>385417647
>Not sending people based on Feels

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Just finished the game, so I made this. Do you guys think it's funny?

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>>385417647
I sent Hedwyn first because of the plan
he seemed like the kind of guy who would go around actually trying to help us on the other side

also
>strutting along for my 3rd liberation rite
>fae wants to check out mud baths
>boner engaged

>mfw she drags the reader into the mud along with her
>mfw she makes him enjoy it forcefully
>MAXIMUM BONER CAPACITY REACHED

>>385418970
medium kek, 5/10

>>385415187
>>385415453
Yeah, it's pretty shallow. It's basically just a really good flash game. Hate to say it, but Supergiant's games keep getting worse and worse. They're all good, and I love them, of course, but each one is worse than the last.

>>385418970
I'll give you a C- for the attempt.

Is it true that the only fights that matter are the final rites of each cycle? Because, oddly enough, I never restarted any of those. I only restated three, and one was just because the ball bugged out and neither team could reach it.

>OST isn't on Soulseek yet

>>385419445
well the rites between liberation rites decide who goes to liberation rite as your adversary

>>385419291
>Flash game
Opinion discarded

I honestly wish there were MORE events inbetween rights, else it feels you barely do anything or build something with a single character before you have to play again.

>>385420679
It gets better after the first Liberation Rite

I think a key problem of the game is too many joke characters. It's hard to care for their fate in the same way you care about the Sad Humanoids

>>385419240
This desperately require fan art, now.

>>385419240
Why do you people keep writing Bae's name wrong?

No waifu
No buy

>>385422268
>Not waifuing Sandra

>>385422325
>not waifuing jodi

These threads are poppin. Does supergiant have a strong online fan base or sonething?

>>385390540
How do you trigger this scene? I didn't get it and those are my favorite characters.

I would have enjoyed this game if it were more traditional party RPG like it advertised like divinity.

Fuck sports games.

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>>385422398
>not waifuing Pamitha
Bird tits or nothing.

Anybody ever picked the "T" talents?

>>385422761
>>385422398
>>385422325
>>385422268
>not waifuing -ae
Ayy seriously hope you guys don't do this.

>>385422268
>>385422325
>>385422398
>>385422761
>>385422834
One word
BERTRUDE

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>>385422834

> tfw I picked Gae
> narrator shouts GAY every time she is summoned

>>385422496
They're an indie dev that's made 3 anywhere from amazing to decent games (depending on how you feel about Transistor/Pyre, most people agree Bastion was great) in a row that always have an amazing art style and soundtrack.

>Jordariel talking a bit too much with whatever the fuck that failures name is
>fuck
>after the match
>relationship talk
>i like you
>"I apreciate your kinship but we draw the line here."
>FUCK
shit game jesus christ
>

>>385373696
>single
>player

>>385422993
>Praying for sir Gilman
>You catch her in the act and she gets embarrassed and insists it had nothing to do with a personal liking for him because he's far too loud
She's a sweetheart at heart

>>385423342
She has a thing for Volfred though. I think Sir Gilman is just endearing.

>>385423135
>>385422993
>>385422834
>>385422761
>>385422398
>>385422325
>>385422268
HOL UP
SO YOU BE SAYIN

SO YOU BE SAYIN THAT SUM OF YO NOT WAIFUING CELESTE?

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>>385423436
>stealing the lone minstrel's brown babe

>>385423552
more like saving him from her
She clearly cares not for any of his advances

i respect all their games for the arts and stuff, but never really liked them, even though i like RPG. still making my mind up about Pyre, too.

i'm a bit of a bonehead with games though, i like to get stuck into gameplay more than anything. Pyre has kept me pretty interested in the VN and stuff outside of Rites, so thats a good sign, however, still not sure if I really like the gameplay yet. the tower defense segment was lame and i'd like to be able to run practice games to work things out instead of just the story matches where i'm compelled to just go for the win as simply as possible.

i went with QWER controls, do you recommend WASD or think it not really matters?

>>385423135
that's the next name I'm gonna use, right now is BAAAAEEEEEEEEE

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>>385423610
They talked about hanging out and starting a new life with each other at the end of my game, don't know where you fucked up.

>>385423717
controller
and there are practice matches

>>385423717
Go for Heightened Difficulty if you haven't already. The game is a bit casual on normal.

>>385423294
Thank christ it wasn't just me.
Man the reader just can't get any can he? Jodi has a hate on for Iggy, Pamitha thinks Ruckey's crush on her is endearing, Bertrude holds a torch for Sandalwood, Stowawae gets with Raised by Wolves and Sandra's a ghost.

Can someone explain how the story works without spoiling everything? I've never lost a match so far and seem to be progressing well, my problem is for one I probably have to start saving characters that will influence the revolution in a big way but those are the ones I like the most and for two that the game will be ending sooner than I anticipate

>>385424131
Plus the whole "stuck in hell forever" thing if you were honorable and didn't let anyone sacrifice themselves for you

>>385424218
I'm pretty sure the plan always succeeds as long as you win every liberation rite.

>>385424218
It's best to play things out blind. I think the doubts add to the experience.

>>385424131
The Ruckey Pamitha scene happened to me right after the Jordariel encounter and honestly I can't fucking believe I'm getting cucked by a mutt.

>>385424131
>Sandra's a ghost.

So whats the bad part, especially when she goes along with it if you say that you got together in the ending

>>385424348
>Implying the ultimate cucking isn't not freeing yourself at the end
t. ultimate cuck

>>385423162
I mean if you look pretty much anywhere online Pyre and Transistor have the same user/fan reception as Bastion (Transistors being the highest of the 3 across most sites I checked).

If anything Bastions probably the most boring of the 3 these days.

>>385424348
Man you got it from both barrels, eh?
Cucked by a chad and a cur.
>>385424401
I mean "get any" in the sense that he has 0 chance of a physical relationship.

>>385423717
Tower defense segment basically never comes up again
You get a practice match mode soon
Play on controller

>>385424496
I dunno, she seems pretty physical during the practise rites

>>385424482
I agree, I think all 3 of their games are amazing, it just seems that transistor and pyre are a bit more divisive than Bastion was. I don't remember a lot of people shitting on Bastion when it first came out.

>>385424669
Aren't those like dreams, or something?
During one of her events the crystal itself drags you out after a few minutes when you weren't performing a rite.

Fuck, I'm on my 2nd rite and the only ones eligible for liberation on my roster are Ti'zo, -ae, and Sir Giman.

And I'm against Fate.

I kinda want to let them win.
Am I fucking up by doing that?

>>385424807
Probably because Bastion was a safe well-made isometric action game that didn't try to do anything to rock the boat.

>>385405006
You get a bunch of buddies.

And you don't HAVE to free anyone.

>>385424807
Transistor is literally not decisive. It's widely considered better than Bastion.

Transistor was also, seriously, shitposted off of /v/ when the game came out despite the fact that if you ask /v/ now they love the game and say it's better than Bastion.
I really wouldn't put a single bit of stock in much of the """reception""" you saw to Pyre on /v/. Even if it was genuine (A good 80% was very obviously not) it hasn't been reflected in any of the games reception anywhere.

>>385423887

hmm, even though i didn't figure everything out yet I think i should yeah. so far i've only needed to sprint forward and dunk.

>>385423829
>>385424535

thanks, might try controller. usually i prefer m+kb even in some games like Dark Souls which might be considered slightly unnatural.

>keep losing and restarting the liberation right against the demon witch
Fuck sake I can't stop her, and it feels like I'm cheating.

>>385424913
No. The game is very lenient with losing story-wise.

>>385425181
Sprint forward and dunk becomes unviable as the CPUs increase their power level. (They take it a bit slow because getting a handle on using all the mechanics effectively takes awhile)

Try experimenting with some other stuff, if you dunk everytime you're gonna be a man down next round which is fucking scary against certain teams later on.

>>385425337
Liberation rite*
missed it somehow

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>>385425328
I mean they put the restart button right there in the menu so I've been taking advantage of it because my OCD about not sending the max amount of people

Next playthrough I'm gonna do it proper

>>385420887
Who exactly is a joke character?

Once you figure out Gilman's backstory, he's the saddest of the lot. And interpreting Tizo's speech lets you know a lot more about him.

>>385425328
Why restart though
just let it happen
it's gonna progress the story regardless

>>385425328
You are.

>>385423423
It's been said upthread but she's a sweet old granny.

>>385425543
What's so sad about Gilman?

>>385425450
That too. Don't worry too much. The developer's made the story go on even if you lose for a reason.

>>385424327
I lost one and it worked.

On my third playthrough I'm gonna free most of my enemies, will report back.

>>385425635
Iirc, he saw his commanding officer retreat from a battle that if they retreated from, they'd be routed. He went after his commander to arrest/return him to the battlefield, but everyone assumed Gilman himself ran too. The battle was a massacre and Gilman elected for exile out of honor rather than be cast out in disgrace after a trial he was sure to lose.

>>385425181
Sprinting forward and dunking can still work sometimes if you wait until there's enough room around the pyre. You can fake out the AI who's guarding it with their aura by jumping near it but not actually going for it. That makes them jump to block you but you won't collide with them and lose the ball if you aim it right. Then you can just walk into the pyre as they're still recovering.

>>385425635
He's the only exile who chose to be there.
His obsession with finding honor has caused him to exile himself, follow a spineless, abusive commander, and only sink deeper into his self-loathing. Until you come along and help him realize that honor is not something to be gained, it is a promise to one's self that must be maintained.

>>385425568
Those fucking imps man, and if she wins I imagine it's automic bad end since she's the witch who worships literal satan.

>>385425919
>That makes them jump to block you but you won't collide with them

>jumping to block jumps
>pump fakes to bait jumps

i didnt even consider that as a thing even though thats seems completely natural. fuckin' nba jam, man.

>>385425707
There are three end-game scenarios. The first is where the plan succeeds flawlessly and the revolution happens with no bloodshed. The second is where the revolution sparks fighting which the harpies take advantage of and attack during, causing the plan to work anyway but Sandalwood is sad because lives were lost. The third is where the people try to revolt but are quickly stopped, but because of their focus being diverted to rounding up the troublemakers, the harpies manage to sneak in and make their attack. In all three cases, the Commonwealth is always overthrown, the Sahrian Union is formed and they vow to never cast people into the pit.

>>385426584
Man that's kinda shitty actually.

>>385426584
Really? I thought complete failure is possible.

>>385426693
Oh, also the ban on literacy is lifted in all three cases as well. Yeah, the game has a very weak ending.

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>tfw none of your choices for liberation are good

Rukey is a cunt who hasn't told me any of his backstory and who doesn't even seem like he'd help the rebellion
_ae clearly likes it here and has an ongoing story with Almer
Ti'zo is Ti'zo

Goddammit man help me choose

>>385426890
BAD END

>>385426109
Well, had to redo four times but managed to beat her. Maybe picking hard was a mistake.

>>385426890
Rukey, you get other speedy characters, _ae is broken end game, and Ti'zo is Ti'zo. It doesn't matter who you send, as long as you send all your people.

>>385426890
Ruckey's a smuggler and a damn good one, he helps the rebellion immensely.

>>385426890
pick ti'zo

and make sure to select barker fights on the worldmap if you want to free rukey next while having his backstory

>>385426890
Ti'zo is the first imp to go topside, his celebrity helps the revolution win hearts and minds.

>>385426890
Just lose this one and fight barker on the next cycle for Rukei

Or send Tizo, he doesn't really care where to be

>>385426890
Hedwyn definitely needs to see his waifu topside again, and since he also wants the rest of the main people to come with him, they're prime candidates for liberation as well. Just make sure Rukey gets some closure with Barker first.

>>385426890
Tizo helps the plan quite a bit but he's also the most fine with staying in the downside.
I'd say Rukey but you clearly fucked up his backstory somewhere.

Give this one to whoever you fight against for lulz.

>>385426890
All of them will help the plan in their own special way.

You need to go against barker more if you want Rukey's backstory but you do want to fulfill Hedwyn's promise at some point yes?

_ae is _ae, keep her with Almer

Ti'zo is probably your best choice at the moment but remember to send up at least one or two of the people he's attached to

>>385427178
Wasn't Hedwyn's waifu a harpy?
I guessed they executed here already if she was in commonwealth.

>>385427293
He never found her when he went looking and they're both smart enough to not take her to the commonwealth if he did.
also they're together in the epilogue.

>>385427293
She's alive.

She's integral in getting the harpy support as an ambassador in the bloodless ending and the interracial couple of Hedwyn and his bird wife show that the two races can in fact live together.

>>385427293
she was never caught
If you keep Hedwyn around long enough then he'll mention her to Pam who knows her

>>385427427
How would he see her though?
If he goes to their place they'll tear him apart
if she goes to commonwealth she's fucked

Also kind of surprising in 5 years she still stayed alive and didn't die in the war

>Gilman
>Hedwyn
>Rukey
>Tametha
>Pametha
>Jodariel
>Reader

feels like a fairly happy ending, man

>>385427537
She's a forward scout and he was a message runner. They only met a few times and it was the fact that he took a detour to look for her and let his battalion die that got him branded a deserter

>>385427617
>Reader
I didn't have the heart

>>385427617
>letting oralech die
not quite

>>385427752
Not him, but I didn't really care personally whether or not I could ascend. I just went because Hedwyn wanted everyone to be together.

>>385427752

Well, any other choice would be breaking up friendships, and all the good waifus were topside. The only other choice was Ti'zo, but he doesn't give a fuck. Demon man can go jump off a cliff for all I care. :^)

>>385427940
If you let him win in a close match, he can relinquish his right to liberation and not an hero.

>>385427617
I didn't want to separate Pamitha and her sister, does she get even the slightest happy ending if she goes free?

>>385427940
Ehh he could have convinced Oralech to free him instead and not sudoku, but thats really unlikely on a first playthrough