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Is FFXI/V/ worth it?

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Was thinking on buying FFXIV for PC, i really wanna play an MMO like WoW, and i'm finding people who really are enjoing the game. I even found out that you can buy a house and decorate it.
Is this game good? Should i get into it?
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First 50 levels are rough story wise, but class diversity and the community are pretty good as long as you stay away from certain servers.
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>>385330153
>Stay away from certain servers.
Why? Elaborate please.
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It's fine but the early levels suck like all mmos
There's a free trial up to lvl 35 with no time limit but a bunch of chat limits so you can try before you buy
Just don't get it through steam
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>>385329829
It's not bad, better than WoW but it doesn't have open world pvp, only instanced, and it's not very populated. Also the leveling experience suck for alt-classes. You get a lot of exp from story quests but after you finish the story it's harder to lvl up.
And you can't jump into endgame content right away. To get access to latest Extreme primals and Raids you need to complete ~410 story quests. I'm not joking.
Is story good? Will it's decent but generic in ARR, in HW it's really good(I'd say Haevensward is the only really good Final fantasy story-wise since 12.), but Stormblood... it's fucking garbage, really dumb.
>>385330358
Some of the NA servers, especially Balmung, are filled with EPR faggots.
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>>385330560
>Will
Well*
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>>385330550
Was thinking on getting it on steam for being more convenient. Any problems with the steam version?
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>>385330750
if you get it on steam you need to get all expansions through steam too
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>>385330750
1. If you buy the game on steam then you'll have to buy every expansion on steam also. You can't activate retail key in steam version
2. Square store has very often discounts for FFXIV and expansions. On steam it's almost never on sale.
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>>385330750
You are locked into using steam and only steam meaning you can't take advantage of any sales from amazon or whatever might have going on and steam has a tendency to fuck up patches and stuff, iirc steam users couldnt even play Heavensward on launch for like 3 days because valve fucked up
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When is the next gear invalidation so I don't have to force myself to raid with pugs or play around a static like a part-time job?
What are we getting in next week's update?
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It's fucking WoW with a Final Fantasy skin.

I bet only japs play this game, because they don't want to touch Blizzshit products.
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>>385331816
Around September October, SB release schedule will roughly be like HWs
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>>385331816
October - November will be a catch up patch, so probably 3-4 months after that
Dont know what's coming next week
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>>385330560
No world PVP? Damn that's harsh, well i guess is worth it considering WoW didn't have housing. One thing for another i guess.
How's the comunity? I wish to make some friends on FFXIV to play with if possible.
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>had a god tier brd in static
>he had to quit because of his wife
>replace him with a smn
>can't break 2.5k
>he is friends with raid lead so I have to look for a new static while still showing up for this one
end my fucking life
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join novice network and you can make acquaintances there.

if you make a character on exodus, leave your character name and I will give you free shit.
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>>385332173
women ruining everything AGAIN.
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Will i get banned if i made all my retainers black and theyre named slave1, slave2 slave 3, etc etc?
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>>385332239
The smn is male
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>>385332221
Was thinking on getting into a EU server, is Exodus EU?
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>>385329829
beware of feral lalafells, they randomly attack you in the game world.
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>>385332298
>he had to quit because of his wife

>>385332320
don't, you'll get sub 1500 DPS players in ex roulette
also the french
there's a certain overlap between the former and the latter.
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>>385332298
Of course he is a (male).
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>>385332320
nope, it's North American.
Europe is a different datacenter (Chaos) so can't play together
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>>385329829
It's a really solid game - just remember to turn the audio to English with Japanese subtitles because the localization team for whatever reason decided to have everyone speak in horrendously overdone faux-Elizabethian English (if you know even a little Japanese, you'll be able to tell they're speaking completely normally).

Apart from that yeah, it's a fun game. Though obviously, like all MMOs, your guild (called FC here) makes our breaks it.
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>>385332097
Community is there but generally doesn't talk in shout, people are in linkshells and guild chat
Since youll be new youll have a little sprout tag, find a player with a crown and ask to be invited to the novice network and start branching out from there
Keep in mind as a trial player you can't join linkshells or guilds though and some servers have a really shitty NN
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>When you brainwash the fanbase so much that they defend anti-consumer practices such as subscription and b2p along with $40 expansions but then use arguments such as "free" updates and calling you poor even though you have a $2000 pc
Jesus Christ
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>>385332410
But won't NA servers lag for me? I mean, i am european after all.
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>>385332493
*Japanese with English subtitles.
Putting the bottle away now.
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>>385332493
The voice acting isnt bad, stop being a weeb
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>>385332535
Honestly, work life is already too shitty to bother with subscription fees and expansions, when I enjoy the game nevertheless and when having money, those 13 + 40 bucks are nothing.
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>>385332410
If you can't break 1500, it's not the reason someone should not play on EU
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>>385332631
Don't drink and shitpost, anon.
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>>385332535
>spends 2k on a pc
>13 dollars a month is to much for him
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>>385332717
butthurt Chaos shitter detected
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I'm still fucking banned until Saturday or Sunday for calling a faggot a faggot.
Can't believe squeenix cucked me out of a weekly tome cap.
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>>385332741
>Being such a lazy shill that you defend paying $120 a month just to keep playing a game
KEK
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>>385332320
If you going EU go Omega or Louisoix. Omega is the most populated but i heard it has long queue times and kinda hard to get into, you'll need to look for when it's open for new characters(late night usually).
Both Omega and Louisoix are new severs and have Exp buff till so it's easier to lvl up there. Also i heard they give you like 1kk gil and items for rare mount exchange if you lvl your character to lvl 30.
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>>385332494
Linkshells are like group chat of WoW? sorry kinda new to these new terms.
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>>385329829

Definitely worth it as a Final Fantasy fan. Most fun i've had with the series in a decade since XII's original release.
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>>385332631
You could always ping the servers and check, it used to not matter since the EU servers were hosted in Canada
If you are going to play on Chaos avoid Moogle and Shiva, I think Louisoix still has a bunch of bonuses since it's a newer server but it might have filled up already like Omega
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>>385332805
meant a year but the shills will be sure to bring it up anyways
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>>385332871
Linkshells kinda guild chats without guild
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>>385332640
Every time I heard Alphinaud speak in English I want to strangle him with garden hose.
And have you HEARD Zenos' English voice?
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>>385332805
>everything is shills
Dont you have an overwatch thread to be in
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It's a 6/10.
Servers are still using the original model from the games initial 1.0 release so that part isn't aging too well. The community is hit or miss and really depends on your server and Free Company (what they call guilds.) End game content comes in chunks so when you are max level be prepared for monotonous dailies and periods of just nothing really to do.
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>>385332427
>>385332410
I am retarded I thought you were calling the smn female. Yeah the brd's wife ruined everything
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>>385332796
>ToS says don't be asshole or we will ban you
>still act like asshole
>WOAAW fucking square KEK KEK KEK MAGA TRUMP FUCK NIGGERS 1488
Stop being loser. Just close chat if you don't like what the other players are writing.
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>>385332559
playing on NA servers from Europe will give you at least 200ms ping at least which is considered to be unplayable.

It's better to make a character on Chaos where your ping will be much lower and the timezones of players will be more accurate.
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>>385332842
Pretty cool, i might try to get into Omega and try to meet some people. Thanks anon.
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>>385332871
Linkshells are private chat channels you can create and invite people to
FYI finding a good hunting linkshell should be something you look out for
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2 expansions now where this bitch has done LITERALLY FUCKING NOTHING
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STOP WE CAN'T HAVE THIS THREAD AHHHHHHH
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>>385332941
>Guild chat without a guild
How is that even work?
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>>385333097
Some faggot was
>complaining about weebs
>in a weeb game
>in a weeb expansion
>in a weeb city
Just said once "Shut up, faggot" and everyone else went "WOW SEXIST REPORTED".
Jeez, do they not know the meaning of faggot?
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>>385332559
I got 160ms ping to Mateus from western Europe.
AoEs are a bit sketchy but they're generally fine.
Now, double weaving skills is obviously going to be impossible.
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>>385333097
>WOAAW fucking square KEK KEK KEK MAGA TRUMP FUCK NIGGERS 1488

Thats a bit of an exaggeration
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>>385332221
Exodus was full last time I checked. Did they expand it?
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>>385333241
I've heard her japanese VA is expensive, why they would make her the 14 representative in Dissidia is retarded
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>>385333241
She gave me a good fap when she was naked
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>>385332796
>be a toxic faggot
>get banned
I don't see the problem here
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>>385333246
Why? I just wanna play some MMO.
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>>385333241
>1.0 she dodges bullets and exposes a coup in pirate town
>2.0 she puts up her bubble once
>3.0 she puts up her bubble once
>4.0 she puts up her bubble once and gets cut in half
She had promise in 1.0, but anyone who still likes her is fucked in the head.
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>>385333241
Isn't she the postergirl for FF14? What the fuck?
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>>385333370
If anything, the other guy was going the >WOAAW fucking square KEK KEK KEK MAGA TRUMP FUCK NIGGERS 1488 way. I just called him out on being a faggot.
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>>385333241
>Wears that qt mining outfit only for like one cutscene

That was the worst one
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>>385333352
it's open right now.
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/80cd4583bf743600105b947d6906d0909189e479

it should be full in like 8 hours though, that's when primetime hours start as people get home from work.
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How does housing work in FFXIV? I kinda like the idea of having a house and putting some furniture in it on a MMO, last online game with housing i played was Tibia, and was pretty cool desu.
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>>385333391
Long story short there's an autist from /vg/ that spends 12+ hours a day, every day, for more than a month now, that tries and derails discussions and spam reports the threads until they get deleted under the pretense they break board rules, when you call him on it and how flimsy his justification is he makes a bunch of excuses and keeps trying to misdirect you into arguing about something else
Unfortunately one of the mods does keep deleting the threads anyway so you can only really talk about this video game on this video game board in the late morning/early after noon US time without having to worry if the thread will suddenly be deleted 300+ posts in
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Is it wrong that I am sexually attracted to potatoes like I am goblins and gnomes?
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>>385333710
go to a housing ward, find a plot of land available, buy the land. now start building your house by buying shit or crafting shit.

if you're too poor to afford a house or can't find land available, you can opt to buy a apartment. it has the same stuff as a house except smaller and it's not a outside entity everyone can see like a house.
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>Doma, a filler arc, is beautiful and colorful
>Ala Mhigo, where the story begins and ends, is literally fucking Afghanistan
This seems rather backwards to me.
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>>385333241
Good.
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>>385333718
Oh, i wasn't aware of this. It's in the afternoon here, i don't know what time it is over there, but for now looks like the thread is going just fine.
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>>385333710
You buy a small/mid/large plot.
They cost like 5-15-30mil (depends on server / area). Then you have a static house where the house goes.

But.
You can customize the house a lot, and you place everything freehanded. It's a good system, I really like it.

>>385329829
Trial is free as far as I know.
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>>385332640
This.
The Japanese voice is even shittier than the English voice at some places. There are just way too many weebs out there with "muh thousand times folded vocal cords." Get the fuck out.
There are games where this is a thing, but luckily FFXIV is an exception.
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>>385333858
>he doesn't like new Sarutabaruta
Gyr Abania is fucking beautiful
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>>385333710
The three city states each have a housing district, the districts aren't connected to the world unfortunately and housing is limited
They also have apartment buildings so you can get one room
There will be a new housing district opening in Kugane in patch 4.1
Houses come in small, medium, and large sizes and housing plots cost anywhere from 3m to 20m
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>>385333858
I think it was meant to show how Zenos had taxed the country to ruin so he could buy more leave-in conditioner or something.
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>>385332640
I'd agree if we're solely talking ARR.
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>>385334074
Large ones are 50m.
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>>385333846
>>385333963
That's really cool. I really wanna play and buy a confy house that people can see, reminds me of good old Tibia.
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>>385333953
Yeah, avoid /vg/, it's cancer
Some brave anon went in there last night and found out that the anti 14 guy was posting in their thread and getting thirsty of a webm some other autist posted of himself fapping to a cat character
Also don't play cats, lizards, or lalas
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>>385333963
Dude, your lipstick does not match your skin tone AT ALL.
If you're gonna go girl, do your research.
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>>385329829
>Constant non shill threads on /v/ actually talking about the game
>Top tier soundtrack
>Based nip devs that flip people off in camera contrasting literal cuckolds western devs and sjw

Of course it's worth it anon.
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>>385333858
You must be confusing Doma with Kugane. Kugane is beautiful and colorful. Doma is a bunch of ruined buildings, built on fractured land good for basically nothing and a castle that is now ruins too. Around it you have a sea controlled by extorting pirates and a huge empty field where people live in huts and play who's toughest every few years (?) to see who runs the most empty field.

At least Ala Mhigo is an actual city.
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>>385334190
The housing is like in a different place. People can see your house, you can share your house, but the place where the houses are is in a different location.
You can go there with teleport or through an NPC. ArcheAge has houses near quests and whatnot but ArcheAge sucks.
And the system is not bad at all, just saying how it is.

The FC (guild basically) also can have a house.

>>385334297
I just made a girl char, I am not gay, nor a /vg/ poster.
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>>385334096
Why is his hair so perfect?
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>>385333261
Its like your own text-based discord group, you can have 6 of those, you don't need a guild or anything, just a personal group of players/friends that you choose/owner of the linkshell chooses
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>>385334275
>Don't play cats, lizards, or lalas
Was planning on doing a "human", i'm a kinda boring person i always make a human male in every MMO.
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>>385334426
>I just made a girl char
(with that said I would rather have a shredded manly man grandpa character with a nice beard. But that's like everything you cannot have listed in one sentence.)
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Does Omega Normal have a weekly lockout? I'm still working through Susano/Lakshmi EX so I'd like to not be completely borked.
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>>385334497
washing it in the blood of mhiggers
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>>385334151
>Have more money to spend on VAs
>They sound shittier than the old ones

I miss thancred and uriangers old voices
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>>385334426
>2017
>not being gay
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>>385334497
He must use conditioner
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>>385334573
Yes. Also
>doing moderately difficult content before boring faceroll content
For what purpose?
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>>385334541
Play what you want, what you like. Why would you even listen to others, lol.
I had a human, but then I switched to Miq'ote because they are unique and cannot be found in other games.
You also get free change potions IIRC (called Fantasia), just don't ask me when/how.
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>>385334593
Urianger's was the second I hit the JP voice option.
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>>385334541
Human is a good choice, all armor sets are designed for human first, midlanders are just average guys and highlanders are big beefy guys
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>>385334615
I'm too old for that shit. I don't even have a fidget spinner.
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>>385334732
You better be talking about his Heavensward voice and not fucking Balthier.
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>>385329829
Play it with Japanese dubs because the idiots at square enix replaced everyone once you get to the first expansion pack. Also avoid playing on the gilgamesh server because it's filled with hardcore end game players
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>>385334698
I want to have my Susano Weapon and maybe some Lakshmi acc before doing Omega. I was under the impression that raids would be harder than trials, but I guess not?

I guess I should get started on Omega then. Feels bad that I might mess with others progression by doing 2 or more in a week though.
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Is it easy making friends in this game? I just don't wanna play another MMO all by myself.
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>>385334723
>You also get free change potions IIRC (called Fantasia), just don't ask me when/how.
After your first month subscription you get a fantasia potion
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>a little bit of flavor in text bothers people
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>>385335050
I had two, dunno how, maybe you get another after X month of active subscription...

>>385335035
Yeah, even EU is populated and people speak English. It's surprising actually.
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>>385334985
There's Omega normal and Omega savage.
Normal is "tuned" for i295 and your party needs to be total retards to wipe. Lockouts are individual based on you getting one piece of loot from each boss.
Savage is tuned for ~315+ with the 2 Chest Lockout shit.
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>Baelsar wanted to get rid of nigger-god-nukes
>Nero is just a troll
>Yotsuyu is pissed for entirely legit reasons
>Zenos just wanted a friend
It is just me or have they done a piss-poor job of showing us The Empire is supposed to be evil?
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>>385334985
Normal raids are babby tier.
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>>385335172
You also get one if you buy the collectors editions
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>>385329829
Relic weapon grinding is complete ass
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>week two
>didn't get shit from savage
why do i even bother
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Btw one more thing OP. People are more mature in FFXIV than in f2p MMOs and usual other games. What that means is they don't get memes, jokes, new stuff. They also less likely to fool around. That may not be a bad thing, I am just simply saying how it is. It was just weird for me to adjust, and how I never really found someone to goof around with. Shit's weird.
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>>385335179
>>385335209
Oh okay thats nice. So I would be able to run through all of them at once and get loot from each boss? I'll probably try to go through some of it today then. Thanks.
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>>385335308
>haven't even been able to get past savage1 yet because even partyfinder groups are full of fucking normalfags now
End me.
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>>385335180
Zenos was crazy what are you talking about?.
He was the WoL gearlean edition.
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>>385335246
yeah but I didn't have that one... oh well maybe it was a past event.
anyhow, even a fantasia is not that expensive to be honest, and the free hair stylist also can change a lot of things.
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>a game where you have to pay every month to not get banned
Monthly subscription games are for cucks
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>>385335365
>Implying lack of meme spouting tards is a bad thing
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>>385335458
Jandelaine is great.
He can even give or cure skin cancer.
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>>385335365
Don't worry, i come from WoW. People there might get memes more often than not but you could also see really serious people raiding and stuff. I actually was one of those seroius ones raiding at mythic dificulty and stuff, fun times indeed.
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>>385335541
So is posting on /v/, uh oh who wins?
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>>385335597
>but can't change eye color
>This scene cannot be skipped.
fuck you Jandelaine
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>>385335180
Nero's shit-eating grin is a work of art.
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>>385335541
That's what you do every month for electricity, internet, running water and others though.
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>>385335180
Gaius did absolutely nothing wrong.
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>>385335180
>the most hated person in the expansion is a mhigger that actually has a complex motivation being stuck as an outsider her entire life both to people she shares and ethnic background with and the society she nominally belongs to
Fordola had a hard life
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>>385335597
>yfw the second son of edgelord House Dzemael is a pink hair stylist faggot
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>>385335589
it's not memes or things like that I am past 12. but jokes, movies, quotes, anything literally that has anything to do with fun.
like everyone went sour from doing dungeons or some shit. been to many FCs and there is like maybe 1 person from 500 that even tries to joke or understands them or something. it's weird, that's all.

desu I was looking for this atmosphere when I was 12-14 year old and I was gaming online. when I found Red Orchestra/Rainbow Six/America's Army teams that accepted me despite my age, it was the best thing ever. having game nights with older men who were drinking beer and telling chill things. maybe I am going backwards? fuck knows. I like fun. ;_;

>>385335619
Yeah I didn't mean it as negative, some prefer this. I even started recently my own FC to have a bit more fun atmosphere but I am already tired of the fuckheads I have to kick constantly.
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>>385335654
He also stops the duty finder.
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>>385335804
Nah, she just need a good dicking from the WoL.
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>>385335740
Yeah instead of killing them he just wanted to beat them, rape them, enslave them, and conscript them for the empire's armies.
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>>385335732
>implying he's not a neet and actually pays bills
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Free fucking trial
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>>385335654
well, imagine him cutting out your eyes... welp
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>>385335804
>the most hated person in the expansion
*blocks your cutscene*
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>>385335963
where can I try fucking and who can I fuck and what

>>385336008
dunno why they didn't make a her a samurai or red mage
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>>385335892
Just like everyone else. I was half-expecting Yugiri and Alisaie to have a flat-out catfight.
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>>385335940
Nice headcanon, bro. Too bad seven years worth of lore disagrees with you.
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>>385336056
because Alisaie was a red mage and Gosetsu and Hien were samurai
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>>385335430
Normal drops 4 tokens which you'll have to roll against the party for so it might take a couple of runs of each floor if you're aiming for specific pieces.
Need 1 token for right side, these drop in 1 and 2.
1 token for belt, this drops in 1.
2 tokens for feet, these drop in 1 and 2,
2 tokens for head, these drop in 2 and 3,
2 tokens for hands, which drops in 3 and 4,
4 tokens for legs which drops in 3 and 4,
and 4 tokens for body which drops from 4.
Floor 4 also automatically gives you another token on your first clear for the week which once you get seven of them can be turned in alongside 1000 creation for a 330 weapon.
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>>385335437
It's not like we haven't forgiven worse sociopaths before.
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When will this game have voice chat? Fuck this discord shit
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>>385335892
I just want to hug her and tell her it's going to be ok while her scowl turns to tears of relief that someone actually cares
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>>385335940
False
In addition the only ones who would think there's something "wrong" about taking over another country are the ones being taken over.
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Newbie here. Will people give me things if I make my character a cute catgirl and slut around on the RP server?
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>>385336212
oh. I just skip every cutscene. :(
but I found a youtube channel that has everything recorded and I plan on watching it
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What loot have you obtained in savage so far lads?
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>>385335804
>actually has a complex motivation
>wants to be Garlean
>Garleans hate her and consider all like her subhumans
>lmao go kill and terrorize your own people, and I might let you suck my dick - Zenos
>shit combatant gets destroyed by everyone she fights on-screen, even fucking Lyse, before acquiring a deus ex machina superpowered Echo that nobody ever saw doing that before
>lose again
>bawww

That's a shit motivation. The fact that Zenos had to die and this bitch is still around is one of the reasons I have entirely given up on this game's story at this point.
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>>385333858
yanxia was literally poverty the zone. absolutely disgusting
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>>385336259
lol, MMO with voice chat...

just use TS/Mumble or whatever.
agreed though, discord is cancer and should die already.
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>>385336169
>>385336296
>Headcanon
We literally saw the product of Gaius' rule in stormblood. Non-garleans are treated like cattle, and even the ones who serve loyally are barely better than attack dogs.
>Hurr hurr ala mhigans deserve it
As expected of Gaiusfags.
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>>385336259
if you play on ps4 it already does.
invite players to ps4 party chat
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>>385336513
watch them blame Zenos even though he hadn't been in control that long
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>>385336223
Sick, looks like I'll be farming these for a while then. Is all of O1-4 normal easier than Susano EX? I feel like I have a good grasp of that fight, but I've only been in learning parties so far, since I was figuring out how I could handle Stormsplitter on DRK (I was getting exploded when switching Susano back to the MT and didn't want to rely on Living Dead to stay alive)
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>>385336008
Speak for yourself, chum.

Nothing puts /v/'s hilarious shit taste in women on highlight like the fact you all consider some former sex slave turned vengeful bitch and a traitor to be better characters than Lyse.
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>>385329829
go play FFXI on a private server. its an actual MMO where there is a community and every zone doesn't become a ghost town as soon as you use it once. Also everything isn't instanced :^)
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>>385336706
>go play FFXI on a buggy private server with less than 300 people online and GMs that give out gear if you donate money to their paypal
LOL
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>>385336513
>We literally saw the product of Gaius' rule in stormblood. Non-garleans are treated like cattle, and even the ones who serve loyally are barely better than attack dogs.
That was Zenos' rule you stupid nigger. He wanted to make them all into animals and immediately went about fucking up what Gaius had put in place, as shown by his destruction of Fordola.
>th-the poor stonemasons in Ala Ghanna ;_;
20 god damn years Garlemald had been there, and these stupid niggers never once thought that they should maybe pick up another trade if they didn't want to starve. But no, that's totally Garlemald's fault somehow.
>>385336582
Nael had also been given control of Ala Mhigo for about a year right before the Calamity and shifted all the locals into slave labor. And after that point, Gaius (and thus Ala Mhigo) was cut off from Imperial support because he went rogue.
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>>385336706
FFXI singleplayer remake fucking when?

I only give a fuck about Prishe and Shantotto.
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>>385336394
>gets destroyed by everyone she fights on-screen
It's ok to admit you skipped cutscenes and are just repeating memes anon
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>>385335869
I know what you mean i was just messing with ya, there seems to be more hardasses lately on the game, everyone seems obsessed with levelling everything to 70, anxious and trying to never make a single fuckup in trials and raids. People never talk to anyone outside their fc. Sometimes you get lucky and find some cool people/groups.
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>>385336832
host your own private server
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>>385336592
>Is all of O1-4 normal easier than Susano EX?
Yes.
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>Tempted to make a Protect macro that lets me use it and then swap it out for something else like Eye for an Eye/Rescue
>can't use protect in battle if I choose to do so

is it a shitter thing or no
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>>385336790
>pick up another trade
yeah, because it's so easy for a town built next to a quarry to just uproot everything and collectively learn a new trade
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>>385336592
>since I was figuring out how I could handle Stormsplitter on DRK
1. Upgrade your gear. You shoudn't die even without buffs from just one tankbuster
2. Meld your gear with V(or VI if you can afford it)
3. Use Focust Target on Susano so you could see when he casts his tankbuster if you switched to the other target like stone.
4. Cast provoke when he almost finished casting tankbuster, NOT AFTER.
5. Make macro for easier TBN use. For example here's mine
/micon "The Blackest Night"
/ac "The Blackest Night" <2>
/tle
It uses BN on party member number two(second tank, unless you changed it in your hud settings) and switches back to your last target(susano)
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>>385336951
seems to be the pro move, desu
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>>385336762
literally does not happen on any worthwhile server. sorry you had a bad experience with one.

the LOL part is how a sever of 300 people is more of a community than a server of thousands on XIV
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>>385336839
>fight and kill that one nameless dude in the Reach assault
>Lyse goes postal on her ass
>fight the WoL
>barely has more HP than the imperial randos you fought to get to her, hilariously easy fight
>fight on the bridge
>bodied by Lyse and WoL again, forced to retreat
>get magical eye of plot
>cuts Alisaie and doesn't even kill her, despite being hilariously overpowered at the time and her opponents being, once again, Lyse and a teenage girl
>final fight
>WoL cancels her plot eye
>bodied like a bitch, is downed by Lyse one last time

Forget Grynewalt, or whatever he was called. Fordola is the true slapstick of this expansion. At least people talekd about how Gryn was an idiot, but a strong idiot.

TL;DR: You're waifu is weak. Pathetic and weak.
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Does XIV with English audio have that "problem" where 95% of it's either meh or downright horrible, while the remaining 5% are fucking amazing? I find that's pretty often the case when I'm playing something with both English and Jap audio options.
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What stats to meld on tanks?
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>>385337265
*activates Sharingecho*
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Tataru is adorable.
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>>385337293
Pretty much.
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>>385337293
The only good voice acting in this game is pre-HW Urianger, who was voiced by based Gideon Emery, and SB Alisaie, who I don't know voices her, but she's good.

Everyone else is some measure of suck.
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>>385337348
DH on left side
STR on right side
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>>385337265
>tfw Grynewaht couldn't even die in a cutscene
>just keels over and you move on, the end
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>>385333261
Most of them are for a specific reason, most commonly "hunts".
Hunts are a random spawning of a rare monster that tend to be harder than any other overworld monster and drop lots of different types of useful currency.
Using a linkshell allows someone who spots something like this to throw out a lat/long set of coordinates and essentially invite a few hundred people to come kill it with one chat.
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>>385337418
I'd smash, no questions asked.
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>>385337489
unless it's an ARR hunt at which point it'll probably be dead by the first person who walks across it

>tfw I just want to buy the level 2 speed boosts
>only bought with allied seals
>only gotten from ARR hunts
>ARR hunts are always dead
>ARR B ranks are still fucking weekly

why the fuck don't HW/SB hunts give allied seals
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>>385337348
direct hit and strength and unless SE balances DH a bit it'll never be any different
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Is adamantoise a good server or no
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>>385337469
a fate deserving of his relevance
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>>385337617
>>385337449

How about for the other jobs, what is the stat to focus on?
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>>385337265
Also Gryn was meant to be taken as mostly a joke. Ford Dollar was supposed to be serious which somehow makes her even more laughable
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>>385336898
That's a relief
>>385337106
Thanks for the macro. I was at ilvl306 so I would have been able to take the buster if I was at full. I guess the healers were busy or something. Is Stormsplitter Magic damage? Maybe I can DA Dark Mind it.
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>>385337752
BRD and MNK: Crit
BLM: Spell Speed
Everyone else: DIRECT HIT
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>>385337615
To make people go back to ARR and hunt shit. You know, the "revive old content" trick we get every other patch.
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>>385337641
No it's shit. Go to a bigger server.
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>>385337469
>wanted Grynewaht to have a proper boss fight
>he's some easy dungeon boss, not even himself at that point
>wanted to kill Yotsuyu
>she lives
>wanted to kill Fordola
>she lives
>wanted Zenos to live
>he dies
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>>385337817
>stack spell speed
>switch to RDM
>do no damage
why even have them share gear
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>>385337817
What about healers?
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>>385337863
it never gets any easier, does it?

it doesn't
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>>385331816
24man raid is next, but expect it to be a while. This is literally week 2 of savage deltascape being out.
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>>385337932
>Crit, and then I dunno, spell speed

I dunno if direct hit affects heals
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>>385332173
If you're a dps, just dps harder. Roll Samurai and get good enough to be above 5k at the end of OS1 AND OS2.
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>no practice parties for o3s
>nobody even fills in the existing parties
good god it's a dead game in the day. i guess i can finally resume my life
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>>385338050
it does not
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>>385338050
I'm just getting started, can you somehow see your crit%? All the menu shows me is a score, I'd like to know actual percentages.
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>>385337932
I think most people are slotting piety right side right now and vit on left until gear gets better
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>>385338080
if you're in potato gear and no buffs you hit a hard limit at 4.3k. it stings that eventually your dps becomes gated behind weekly shit
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>>385338275
durr, other way around. piety left vit right
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>>385338121
>o3s
Well there is your problem.

Nobody wants to do Halicaranassus without a proper static group because it takes at least 30-50 pulls of learning.
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What are the pros and cons of getting into legion vs ff14 as a whole?
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>>385338476
if you play legion, you will be years behind people.
if you play ffxiv, you will catch up quickly.
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>>385338476
Legion has the shittiest fucking lore I have ever seen
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>>385338476
>What are the pros and cons of getting into legion vs ff14 as a whole?
From someone who is currently clearing Deltascape Savage and cleared Mythic Nighthold before quitting WoW

>WoW
>Exorbitant amounts of grind.
>Grind AP. Grind legendaries (pray you get your BiS so you can raid). Grind Mythic+ dungeons.
>Faster levelling experience.
>More smooth/tight mechanics and gameplay.
>Shit PvP

>FFXIV
>Currency-based system allows you to beat out rng (Primal Totems, Tomestones, Datalogs) for raid gear.
>Grind to get ready for Savage isnt bad, maybe 1 week to get tomestone gear
>Slower leveling experience
>Gampleay is not as smooth as WoW
.Shit PvP

imo FFXIV has the better bossfights
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>>385338476
WoW have sexy elves, space goats, shortstacks and furries.
XIV have catgirls, lizards, baras and potatos.
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>>385336790
>That was Zenos' rule you stupid nigger.
Zenos had been in power for less than a year. All Garlean protocol had been established and in place long, long before that, as the countless NPCs will attest. There's no one going "gee, things sure were better two years ago when that Gaius fella was in charge!" They've been getting shit on for the entirety of the past two decades. Nael may have been given run of the operation to take Eorzea, but she was never viceroy of Ala Mhigo.
>DURRR FUCKING RETARD MHIGANS DESERVE TO BE OPPRESSED
The people of Ala Gannha hadn't seriously worked the quarry in years, they only mined what they personally needed. They even started building their houses into the side of it. And there actually ARE some who tried to make a living by farming the barren ass soil. But there was still no way they could ever pull themselves out of poverty, because the Imperials would conscript their able-bodied men, take a fifth of what little they earned, and more or less just torture them for fun.

I'm sure this will all just be handwaved away though because there's no way your precious waifu Gaius and the amazing Empire of fairness and equality could ever be portrayed as a bad guys.
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>>385334074
>New housing in 4.1
Does this mean housing will finally be available again?
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>>385338775
To be fair they've been cranking the fun up with omega savage.
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>>385339297
Depends on how populated your server is.
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>>385339297
For about 15 seconds at least.
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>>385329829
Early impression of FFXiV left me not wanting to play. But slowly I've been seeing awesome FFXIV gameplays.

One of the main issue I see (from just watching the ffxiv videos) are loading screens. Coming from wow, loading screens are a bit turn off. If FFXiV utilized seamless world map transitions it would be awesome.
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>>385329829
if youre not brazilian or russian, yea its worth it
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>>385339549
PS4 limitations.
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>>385339297
Everyone and their mother is going to want a Kugane house because of sweet teleportation discounts.
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>>385333558
You take that back!
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>>385339465
I'm ready for the battle. I'm getting lot 8.
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I just hit 70, finished the MSQ and did my Class Quest.

What do i do now? Unlock extra dungeons and spam roulette to buy gear with tokens then beg my way into a partyfinder EX Primal group and go do the 8 man?
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>>385339297
It's gonna be Raubahn's Wall all over again.
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>>385340063
Basically. It's easy to find parties once you have a clear but getting that clear is horrible
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>>385331816
>When is the next gear invalidation
'Bout February
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>>385339964
best AF.
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>>385340271
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Remember when you had to shout in wineport for raid instead of party finder?
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>>385340063
You unsub
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So im playing with timecard time right now and it lets me have 8 characters in 1 server so im wondering, if i make a new character on the same server and i decide to switch to standard credit card payment later am i forced to pay for the 8 character version or would i be locked from using that new character?
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>>385340190
ok cool.

what about hunts? I see them being talked about all the time, but as far as i can see there's no hunt gear so whats the point?
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>>385340701
you'd be locked out from using that new character

but it's pointless to have more than one character
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>static on weekends
>want to try fooling around in v3s with pugs because pugs won't clear anyway
>the game needs me to forfeit my weekly loot of v1s and v2s so I can even step in v3s
This game has some prehistoric shit. It's like they are living in 1910.

Holy incompetence batman.
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>>385340768
Hunts give you currency to buy materia and also have a random chance to drop items you trade for materia.
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>>385340701
If you use the Entry Subscription you can only log in on the oldest character on that server if I remember right.
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>>385335804
>the most hated person in the expansion
That's not Lyse
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>>385339684
Loading screens are not console limitations. The game could look nicer without them though. Or not, I doubt they'd put in the work.
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>>385341273
I need them so I can feel good about having a SSD.
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>>385339684
Its not a console limitation, but rather a game design limitation. Seamless map requires active culling/gpu fencing utilization which the Jap game devs probably dont know how to implement.
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I kind of want to play BLM. Tried it several times up to 40, and many times in potd at 60 but I dont think I got a good grasp on how it works perfectly. I see many people open with Bliz 3 I think, then swap to fire? With 3 stacks of that fire thing do I want to spam fire 1 until 4 procs or something?
How are the 60-70 skills?
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>>385341186
I wish that FUCKING ROBE looked as good as it looks in fanart (and any other 3D game).
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>>385341842
At 60.
Opening should be thunder, fire 3, enochian, fire 4, fire 4, fire 1, fire4,fire 4, bliz 3, use stuff other than any fire spell until full mana, then restart the cycle at fire 3.
PotD might not be representative since everything in it dies too fast.
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>>385333241
>2 expansions now where this bitch has done LITERALLY FUCKING NOTHING
That's not true! She was... instrumental in HW?
Like that time she pointed us to Matoya, a character who was actually likable and helped with shit.
Or that one spell she used in that meaningless instance fight with the Goblins. A feat so impressive the writers forgot she could do that and never spoke of it again.
>>385333418
>She had promise in 1.0, but anyone who still likes her is fucked in the head.
Sadly, that's all the Scions. But it's true. Y'shtola has been especially fucking useless, even by their lack of standards.
They feel like they're only around out of some sort of contractual obligation to keep something from 1.0 around. So many potentially interesting characters killed off or shoved to the side just to make room for more fucking Scions.
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All right. I didn't think about money at all while leveling my crafters and now I'm out of Gil and crystals. What to do?
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>>385342358
you open with Blizz 3 to get Umbral Hearts
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>>385342036
Yeah.
It's a combination of the gear not looking like the concept art 1:1, the game's textures, lighting and the robe's physics being shit, plus the low polycount everything including the sandals.
The colors are different too.
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I want to play but having to input credit card credentials even if I'm not planning on extending my playtime for now is a no.
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>>385342750
A lot of stuff about this game makes you wonder in what year Japan is living. Some of the systems are just ancient.

You just learn to live with it.
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>>385337863
fucking A dude you put how I felt playing this gay ass expansion in a simple green text
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>>385342508
Except you don't get umbral hearts from B3, unless you mean going B3>B4 which seems pointless since umbral hearts are now useless outside aoe rotations.
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>>385342529
Consoles were a mistake
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>>385342926
People should not be rewarding such anti consumer practices.
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>>385337863
>>385343024
YoshiP need more waifus, not more husbandos. Surely you're not gay and want more male characters, are you?
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>>385343073
you get 6x fire 4 per AF phase and the foul timer lines up perfectly with your UI phases
it's the intended rotation
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>>385342529
>devs hyping the "new" robe/sleeve's physics in liveletters
>it's fukcing nothing, fucking generic wuxia MMOs made in China can do it better
And it looks especially dumb in giraffes, even though the official art uses one as a model.
Shit is more disappointing than Yoshida revealing that he will give the original MCH AF3 design to some NPC because "it was too unique".
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>>385343264
It's not just the mogstation and payment and shit, a lot of ingame systems are just 10 years behind their time. Look at >>385340823

You will either learn to live with it or you don't play the game. It's not like they do it on purpose they are just very incompetent when it comes to a few points.

Don't even get me started on the costume system.
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>>385343462
What?.
Explain about the MCH
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When the fuck does Shirogane open
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>>385343462
>tfw I fantasia'd into a giraffe to look good like in pic related and >>385342529
>tfw I even tried having it look like >>385342529
End my life.
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>>385343364
A 4 F4 rotation give equivalent dps while not being as restrictive on cast times or movement.
>>
How does the collectible turn-in reset work? Like are the items changed on daily basis or something?
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>>385343336
YoshiP is a faggot, though.

>your supposed love interest is a dude, and then he dies
>you spend the entirety of SB in Lyse's company, but it's always strictly friendship
>Y'shtola is a distant bitch
>Krile is a fucking potato
>Yotsuyu is a psychotic nutjob who hates her own people
>Fordola is the same, plus used goods from Zenos

Meanwhile Gaius, Zenos and Regula are the best characters of the game, and they're all dead. The only good female Yoshi has put in the game was the White Raven, and not only was she not outwardly female at all for most of her screen time, she too was a villain.
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>>385342529
Why are the feet poorly drawn here? lmao toes look like sausages
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>>385343817
Changed every day at 12PM EST.
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>>385343962
PS3 artist limitations please understand
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>>385343704
>4 F4
without UH you can do 5F4. are you using fire 1 twice?
cast times and movement are irrelevant when both triplecast and swiftcast are on a 60s recast
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>>385333241
I wish they had generic hyur hero as the representative for dissida
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>>385343606
I don't remember all the details and I forgot to save the picture, but during the live letter that showed us the concept art of AF3 designs (and other sets), Yoshida showed two MCH designs. He basically said that one of them was "too unique" (that it would be better as a story NPC's costume) and decided to give us the design we have today.
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>>385343336
I am.
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>>385343923
>Zenos
>A good character
You niggers are so desperate to be contrarian you'll just love any character that's supposed to be evil no matter how blatantly shit they are.
>>
>need one more spring for new pants
>13 tries later still can't roll above a 60
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>>385343923
I liked Minfilia. She gets a lot of flak but she didn't deserve being written out of the story like that.
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>>385344076
This. Zenos was such a deviantart-tier shitter it isn't funny.
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>>385344076
>not realizing Zenos is a better foil to WoL than the fucking WoD was
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>>385344101
Eventually they'll implement a currency system to supplement the currency system, collect 10 Omega tokens to trade in for one spring
>>
I just started playing it as my first mmo ever yesterday. It's alright but i don't know if I'm playing it badly or not.
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>>385343923
>Fordola used goods
>not Yotsuyu
Nigger what? Are you actually going to take gossiping garleans being butt hurt about her as what really happened and then ignore that Yotsuyu was sold to a pleasure house
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>>385344246
Dude they could just give me a SLIGHTLY better chance after running it five times for the same token and I'd be happy. This has me so pissed off
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>>385344107
There will always be divergent opinions. I liked Lyse, but most of everyone doesn't.

But the point is, a game like this shouldn't have romantic interactions at all, since there's no player agency on the plot, but because Yoshi likes dick you have some romantic undertones with a bunch of dudes and no females whatsoever.

At least try to be equal opportunity about it, you faggot gook.
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>>385344027
Not as an opener since not enough mp but otherwise, yes.
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>>385344370
dont click skills, always keybind them

read the tooltips fully of all skills so you know what they do

if a quest icon has blue around it its important

pull your camera as far out as possible in settings to be more able to spot and avoid aoes
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>>385344464
What tells you that everyone else isn't in the case you are?
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>>385344410
They're both used goods, but Yotsuyu at least had no choice.

Fordola took garlean dick (worth noting, garleans are superstrong humans and Zenos is like 10 ft tall) to advance her career. That's textbook prostitution. Yotsuyu was a slave.
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>>385344468
Waifufags are the worst kys
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>>385344539
but why? do you have 600 spell speed?
you have convert in the opener
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>>385344686
>t. fujoshi
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>>385344674
>being this jealous she took his massive dick and you didn't
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>>385343508
Fanboys will never acknowledge any of that shit.
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>>385344627
too angry at it to give a damn about everyone else
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>>385344843
Everyone acknowledges it except people who simply don't know better
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Anyone know what Zenos or Yojimbo says if they get their meters maxed?
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>It's a "everyone fucking dies from near full health to Gravitational Wave" OS3 party
Every time
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>>385345043
>near full health
>not full health
Incompetent healers.
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>>385345043
>Gravitational Wave
surely you mean O2S senpai
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>>385345126
Yeah meant O2S
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>>385344986
I think Zenos just says THE POWER TO TRANSCEND like normal
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5N-rrWOBdU
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>>385345108
>vulnerability stacks
incompetent dps
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>>385345197

tfw no zenos to step on me and call me worthless
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>>385344721
Are you the dude who opened with b3? because you waste 2 casts to gain 1 f4. I'm the one who should be asking why.
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>>385345316
and healers
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>>385343687
Me too, for similar reasons, I honestly regret using my free fantasia on it.
It's not like I hate giraffes (I don't even mind the animations), but it's hard to create a good glamour set when almost everything looks dumb as fuck on you since the game is designed with hyurs in mind. Maybe I should go back to boringlander, or give lizard a go now that you can hide their tails (with mods) so clipping won't trigger the shit out of me anymore.
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>>385345316
>one of the tanks/healers fucks up 100G
>everybody gets a vuln stack
>it's the dps :^)
And you don't die with vuln stacks at full health + mitigation, and O2S has a shitton of windows to top everybody off
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>>385343923

You're just a homosexual armor fetishist, admit it.
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>>385345434
>or give lizard a go
Let's not.
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>>385344674
>Call him on believing rumors spread by people jealous of her advancement
>but it really happened though even though the only time it's mentioned is by those jealous guys
I have a bridge to sell you anon
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>>385345550
theres a point he casts double stacking+gravitational wave in a row

its hard to pull off the healing at that part; but yea, everyone fucks up, not only the dps
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>>385344557
Most of the blue quests are useless, don't lie to him. Only the dungeon and chocobo ones are important
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>>385345597
>armor fetishist
>tfw no beautiful armored warrior women in XIV

Female legatus with awesome Judge armor when?
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Tab targeting needs to die. Games catoring to soccer moms need to die. Fuck I'm burnt out on XIV and I havent entered V1S.
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>>385345417
I have better dps with UH in real fights because there's a far bigger room for error/unpredictability. Wasting 2 casts to gain 1F4 is only a big deal if you're trying to fit everything into a specific window i.e. training dummy
And I've yet to see a high dps BLM NOT use UH. Human error evens out the dps gain in the non-UH version
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>>385345639
I think it's a bit boring to play as a normal human in MMOs, so my only other not-hyur options are cats and lizards. Then again, it's not like I can create a non-hyur/elezen that actually looks decent. I wish this game had more customization options.
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>>385345876
Hello!
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>>385345686
What proof do you have that it did not happen?

Honestly, considering she's a woman that got farther in the garlean military than most non-garleans get, it's actually likely that it wasn't just Zenos she entertained.
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>that guy that tries to green text and gets upset when called on it
I thought it was a meme but I saw it happen today
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>>385346012
>dead
>the second she reveals her face she drops the armor too and becomes some dragon hybrid thing
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>>385346012
Nael is cute! And a psycho! And also really cute!
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>>385346021
What proof do you have that it did happen? She got to where she was at the start of SB based on merit since that was the rank she got to while Gaius was in charge, and Zenos promoted her from there because he's a nut job that does shit on whim and thought it would be funny
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>>385338391
My static killed her in 10 pulls. It's pretty easy.
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>>385346021
>What proof do you have that it did not happen?
In XIV, if someone got fucked by garleans, the victim herself will be the first one to tell you about this (considering that she is still alive). Nobody feels like hiding this kind of traumatic experience in Eorza.
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>>385346585
now imagine that with a bunch of randoms who are also idiots
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>>385346641
Where the fuck did you get this line?

I like to believe I pay attention to this stuff, but it's a big game.
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>>385346793
It's in the Ala Mhigo duty IIRC.
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>>385346641
>first dungeon in the game is a pirate rape cave
>arcanist story is helping an autistic cat girl get over her rape ptsd
>Eddas "intimate" moment with her fiances severed head
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>>385346793
The solo duty in Ala Mhigo's poorfag district (the stealth mission to rescue Krile).
Right after you talk to Thancred and enter the residential district, you will see two guards talking to each other.

>>385347113
This game sure loves to talk about sexual stuff. Good thing that it's a MMO, ESRB and similar groups will never actually read the whole script.
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>>385346664
Reminds me of a MT who called me toxic before leaving for telling him to move at the end of the cast of the thorns tether after he repeatedly either killed whoever he was tethered with or getting vunerability stacks from walking in through the fire she does right after.
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>>385345962
Skipping b4 sucks serious ass. You malign your foul timer, if you use 5 f4 you end up with the same mp issues as pre 4.05. Thunder 3 still costs 1900mp while foul is not always up in umbral for that rotation. That comes to the other issue of if you skip b4 and don't have foul up then all you can do is t3, even though half the time you need two casts to get all your mp back. Skipping b4 is not only a bad rotation, but also a broken one.

The only time to skip b4 is when there's a transition happening soon, like the susano sword, or exdeath's decisive battle.
>>
Lakshmi's theme > Sophia's theme
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>>385347460
Bollywood Primal is the best thing to come out of SB.
>>
It's pretty good, but the story can be disappointing when all the bad guys are automatically portrayed to be wrong even when they have good reasons.
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>>385347515
The Antana beast tribe quests better give us their dance.
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>>385347567
Like fucking who?
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>>385346641
>This game sure loves to talk about sexual stuff. Good thing that it's a MMO, ESRB and similar groups will never actually read the whole script.
I just love that shit
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>>385334151
No, ARR was the worst of them all. Have you replayed 2.0 on an alt? I have.
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>>385345876
hi
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>>385347567
>the story is disappointing because the antagonists are well-written with understandable motives
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How can people play shit like WoW or FFXIV? The combat is so boring
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>>385347645
Gaius
Thordan
Nidhogg
Warriors of Darkness
Fordola
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>Good DPS party
>People die from standing in fucking Antilight
>Bad DPS party
>Everyone does everything flawlessly and we enrage with no deaths
Every single time
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>>385347864
Nidhogg didn't have a "good reason". He was eternally asspained and he needed to get the fuck over it like his siblings did and wanted him to do. Yes, the faggots at Foundation were irredeemable dogshit but he was being a gigantic piece of shit about it too.
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>>385347759
She gets down and dirty with Aymeric, right?
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>>385347864
>Nidhogg
>good reasons
>"A THOUSAND YEARS ARE LIKE ONLY A DAY IN DRAGON TIME SO EVERYONE OF YOUR DECENDANTS MUST SUFFER FOR SOMETHING THEY DIDN'T DO!!!!1111"
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>>385347781
they are well written with understandable motives, but are always portrayed as unreasonable monsters
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>>385347759
Oh yeah, I remember her.

Good shit.
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>>385347781
You know, it's alright when it happens once or twice, kind of like a diamond in the rough
But it's like this game keeps trying to guilt-trip you everytime you kill something
The only genuine villains we had were Nael and Zenos
Ascians don't count yet because we don't even know what they're trying to achieve, for all we know it could very well be all part of a greater plan to save the most aetheric planes possible from... Something?
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>>385347864
>Nidhogg
>good reasons
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>>385347970
Foundation is poverty tier though, the pillars is the rich part of ishgard
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>>385347859
Only octopuses play these games. I don't get how people can play with keybinds from 1 to 0, plus ctrl and shift.
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>>385347864
>Nid
>Fordola
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>>385348046
>Ascians don't count yet because we don't even know what they're trying to achieve
They told you exactly what the Ascians are trying to achieve back in Heavensward, anon. Stop skipping cutscenes. Elidibus is trying to fix the universe that Hydaelyn broke.
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>>385346641
Eorzea is kind of a fucked up place, they don't really hide it.
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>>385348127
I meant Ishgard as a whole.
I really didn't care for them and I hated that the entire expansion was helping a bunch of fucking elezen morons who needed to die.
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>>385348141
I click the buttons
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>>385347997
She wants to but he would never sully himself with anyone but Estinien
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>>385347970
>>385348018
Avenging your kin butchered by ingrate and treacherous scum IS a good reason
He's not being a dick for the sake of being a dick
>b-but they dindu nuthin
They did
Nidhogg may have been blinded by his rage, but his rage didn't start from nothingness in the first place, if ishgardians didn't fuck up, nothing would have happened
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>>385348070
>>385348018
Nidhogg was literally the only bad guy that the game decided to do a "HE WAS RIGHT BUT TOO EXTREME" story. Gaius, Thoradan, even the Warriors of Darkness all got portrayed as evil crazy guys

Thordan literally had the best reasons for his actions (get rid of our entire culture because the enemy gave THEIR side of the story?, fuck of)
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>>385348280
Thirteen Ishgardians 1000 years ago fucked up. And he killed half of them on the spot. He knew perfectly well that the modern Ishgardians had nothing to do with it, despite Hraesvelgr shilling his 'muh dragon perception of time' excuse. We know he understood they were completely separated from it because he told us himself that he hadn't razed Ishgard from the very beginning because he wanted them to keep breeding so he'd have more of them to torture.
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>>385348280
And if he wasn't blinded by rage he, and a bunch of his brood, wouldn't have been killed. When you have everyone telling you to calm the fuck down on all fucking sides maybe, just maybe, you should listen. I hate being that fucking guy to say this but revenge won't change fucking shit. You can kill them all you want they'll still be tremendous faggots.
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>>385348163
Elidibus is not "the ascians", he's Elidibus
For all we know they may all have different objectives, or at least different ways of achieving the same objective
Look at Gaius, he wasn't "The Empire", because while Garleans wanted to nuke the shit out of Eorzea with proejct meteor, he chose to go wrong and take over Eorzea with Ultima weapon so he could convince the other Imperials to not level the entire continent
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>>385348280
Yeah let's kill all white people because some of them had slaves hundreds of years ago
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>>385348337
Gaius had some moral fabric compared to Nael or Zenos, but he still consorted with Ascians to unleash a weapon that was seconds away from causing another calamity (yeah he didn't actually intend for that to happen, but he enabled it), not to mention that he still wanted to conquer Eorzea and establish a regime "for their own good".

The Warriors of Darkness were actually given several scenes that made it clear that they just desperate to save their world. From their perspective their only choices were to let their world die or wreck havoc in the source world. Urianger and Minfillia ended up giving them a third option.
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>>385348510
We also know that at least Lahabrea and Igeyorhm were working toward Elidibus' same goal. So it's not just him alone. I'm guessing we're going to see Altima soon too.
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>>385337863
>were gonna get a yotsuyu redemption arc
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>>385347970
His sibling did not want him to get over it until later. Hraesvelgr gave him an eye knowing exactly what he'd do with it and if it wasn't for Shiva, he would have joined Nidhogg without a second thought.
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>>385348639
Gaius wanted to create the kingdom of man, basically blasting everyone who was a beast from the face of the earth. Then let the strongest be the ruler.
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>>385348720
>she will be the first romanceable character option
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>>385348639
>all the scenes with the Warriors of Darkness have them acting and sounding like Saturday morning cartoon villians
>Knight of Darkness gives the most over-the-top crazy smile in the game


>after kicking their ass they all become sympathetic and sullen
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>>385348817
>Every time something goes wrong said beasts call upon primals (which is also bad)

Yeah no
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>accidentally melded crit instead of DH for PLD
Should I just get a new hat and replace the melds? It's the normal i320 omega gear so I won't be keeping it forever, but I don't want to be bullied for having the wrong melds for savage content.
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>>385348890
Are you fucking serious? Go fucking remove the materia at the goblin in blackbrush you dumbass
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>>385348843
Sometimes hackshida is alright.
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>>385348861
That's why his plan got in motion the moment he got Ultima Weapon, since it could 1v1 any primal and obliterate all beast opposition.
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>>385348861
>no beastmen to summon primals
>no primals
>?????
>world peace
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>>385348843
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>>385348890
>just get a new hat
You can get materia removed, son. Just go to the goblin Mutagenix in Central Thanalan, you tool.
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>>385348848
Blaenhyrz was just getting into character so he wouldn't feel so bad about killing millions of people.
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>>385337863
>Zenos was literally the best character in the game with the best Armour in the game
>basically Roah from FOTNS but a giant weeb
>constantly spars with you rather than kill you because he wants you to get stronger


>dies while all the other true villains live
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>>385349069
As it turns out, beasts aren't even the things that summon primals. Literally anyone can summon them.
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>>385348280
>instead of holding the actual miscreants accountable lets just go full genocide
He had every right to be angry, nobody disputes that. He did not, however, have the right to start a thousand year war that left countless more dravanians and ishgardians dead.
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>>385349069
The problem is that everyone can summon that shit.
Gaius didn't know that though.
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>>385349069
>humans can't summon primals
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>>385349158
Gaius watched Louisoix initiate the summoning of the Twelve. And he tells you on the elevator before you fight him that the Twelve would appear like any other primal if you offered them crystals. He knew.
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>>385349069
No one knew that until way later on the story
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>>385333241
They try to keep making her the 'face' of XIV but she's basically been written out of the story since 2.55. Something keeps happening to her that makes her fuck off for the entire story until patches start coming out.

Wish it was basically anyone else in Dissidia.
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>>385349158
>>385349143
Only TWO instances three if you want to count Susano I guess, since he basically summoned himself) where there was someone outside a fucking beast tribe that summoned a primal was Thordan and Shiva.

But ishgard needs to be nuked off the face of Eorzea so whatever
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>>385348540
>>385348442
I didn't say he was JUSTIFIED into genociding Ishgardian, I said he had a good reason
He didn't pop out of his egg and thought "Man, filthy elves are so smelly, I wish I could torch them all wtf"
He was a gigantic threat and he had to be stopped / put down, there's no question about that, but claiming he didn't had any reason to go to war with the giraffes is stupid
Vengeance is the most legit reason to pick up a fight, no matter the context, no matter the place and no matter the epoch
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>>385349396
Louisoix summoning the Twelve and Ilberd summoning Shinryu.
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>>385349396
Shinryu
Phoenix
Alexander may have been summoned by gobbies, but it conceived by spoken races.
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>>385349396
What about greg?.
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>>385349394
Turns out the two instances she was "away" is the canon reason why she is in Dissidia!
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>>385349473
Except he didn't have a good reason
>durr I'm mad so I'm going to take it out on people that have nothing to do with why I'm mad
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>>385349396
Enkidu was summoned by Gilgamesh
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>>385349616
gilgamesh isn't even real
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>>385349595
>wow wtf #notallmuslims #refugeeswelcome
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>>385349595
>be me
>lose an eye and my sister to a bunch of wasps
wtf i hate wasps now
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>>385348965
>>385349086
HOLY FUCK WHAT

I must be legally retarded because I never knew this was a thing. God damn I'm very glad that this was the very first time I've ever fucked up melding and haven't replaced any other rare shit like a goddamn idiot. Fuck I feel stupid now.
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>>385349651
Did you get lost looking for your containment circlejerk
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>>385349396
Bahamut was summoned by dragons
the Warring Triad were summoned by non-beast tribes
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>Yoshi-P wanted us to hate the Empire
>their writers made me hate Lyse
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>>385349710
Is okay.
I don't know why all the melders or at least the one in reach have the option to remove.
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>>385349642
He is more real than these silly ideas about garleans being right about anything.
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>>385349798
Sophia was summoned by non-beast tribes. Sephirot was summoned by tree people and Zurvan was summoned by centaur people.
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>>385349808
same
I wish the empire won
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>>385349798
>the Warring Triad were summoned by non-beast tribes
But they did?
It's said somewhere that Zurvan got summoned by centaurs and Sephiroth by tree-like creatures
Only Sophia we do not know about their summoners, aside that they were a nation comprised of a multitude of people, thus probably including other beastmen we know nothing about
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Guys, would I like this game if the things I need in MMOS are:

>exploration is encouraged and rewarded
>good combat
>fun PvP that relies on strategy and skill instead of gear or level
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>>385329829
Game is not worth it except to quietly craft, gather and play the market.

Ignore 95% of people you meet.
If someone is nice, this is not an invitation to open up. Hang out with them but you're better off just running some content and fucking off once you get your shit.

Do not befriend anyone that isn't of demonstrably stable mind and trust me, almost everyone you will meet on the game IS NOT.

I repeat, almost everyone on the NA Data Centres in ENTIRETY are mentally diseased and borderline moronic. Avoid, avoid avoid.

Seriously, you should learn japanese and just stay over on a strict JP server.

Avoid all Americans.
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>>385349875
>>385350050
>trees
>beasts
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>>385350072
No.
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>>385350072
>exploration is encouraged and rewarded
No
>good combat
No
>fun PvP
lolno

>>385350145
>sylphs
>beasts
Oh wait
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>>385350072
>fun PvP
that's subjective
>that relies on strategy and skill
Shatter does have this, yeah
>instead of gear or level
PvP isn't affected by either levels or gear. Everyone has new skills that are PvP only.
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>>385350072
Only thing that comes close to your tastes is the PvP in that it doesn't rely on gear or level but it still sucks despite that. Probably not the game for you.
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>>385350119
Shut the fuck up you weeaboo.
>>
>all houses on my server are taken
>it's against the ToS to buy homes from other players

J U S T
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>>385350072
play guild wars 2
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>>385350072
Everyone had standardized stats and is set at the same level for pvp
Exploration is somewhat incentivized by the sight seeing log
It's hot bar combat competently done but if you dont like that style in general you won't like it
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>>385350307

its against the TOS to sell them anon
>>
the only good MMO I've ever played is Guild Wars 1.

the crafting wasn't bullshit in that game, that's all I've ever wanted. Give me a materials merchant, and then give me an armors merchant.

no fucking crafting trees, no mining, no BULLSHIT. Give me a GAME not a life simulator.
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>>385350302

>weeb

I didn't say you couldn't go to EU, but speaking strictly from a progression perspective? JP shits on everyone and EU is DEFINITELY better than NA.
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>>385350307
Just fucking do it, everybody does that
You think Yoshi is going to investigate every time someone buys a house or what?
As long as you don't buy it to a goldseller account you will be fine
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>>385350119
>autistic weeb ramblings
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>>385332250
I doubt it. No one is going to see your retainers except you, and no one will make the racist connection just from seeing their names on the Marketboard.
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>>385350119

this is the first mentally unstable post i've seen today
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>>385350119
Why haven't you killed yourself, you self-loathing faggot?
>>
I played this game for a few days but all the side quests are boring fetch quests and the main story pretty generic.
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>>385350072
>exploration is encouraged and rewarded
Not really. There are tons of secrets to find, but you only unlock paintings for your house.

>good combat
It's your usual tab-target combat.

>fun PvP that relies on strategy and skill instead of gear or level
Gear and levels have no effect on PvP, there very little RNG factor too.
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>>385332535
The subscription fees and expansion costs were fine. The Mog Station is indefensible.
>>
>>385349710
Have you never done the materia quest where you learn to meld yourself?
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>>385350307
No one gives a shit if you just buy a house from another player. It's when you buy plots for the explicit purpose to scalp other players for money and not to actually use the plot that the ding dong bannus start flying.
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>>385350524
>very little RNG factor too.
yeah if you only play feast sure
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>>385350072
>exploration is encouraged and rewarded
Not really but that's not to say it's any less than any other MMO. Perhaps even a bit more.
>good combat
It's better than some stuff and worse than others.
>fun PvP that relies on strategy and skill instead of gear or level
Not a chance.
>>
>>385350501

>self loathing

I just think Final Fantasy XIV's NA community is a god damn cancer upon the world.

Frankly, America is fucking cancerous period.
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>>385333241
They're just treading water with her until her inevitable death.

I feel like it's the same with Thancred. They made his entire character Broody McBrooderston so that he can eventually do a noble sacrifice.
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what am I in for, haven't played in years
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>>385350805

spamadan trading and bot infested pvp
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>>385350805
lag, bots and sad memories
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>>385350798
I'm betting on him sacrificing himself to bring shitfilia back
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>>385350307
A GM said to some other player (because he was reporting happy merchants) that while the concept of "selling houses" can be considered against the rules, he won't do shit about it for some reason (unless it's a scam, then the jewish individual will get banned). Unfortunately I forgot to save the screenshot.
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>>385350971
I didn't not complete the story but isn't Thancred kind of crazy in love with Minfilia?
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>>385350971
I'm pretty sure Minfillia is going to come back on her own to ask you to travel to the first shard because shit is hitting the fan over there.
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>>385332392
I've noticed that Lalas have this weird fucking insular, segregated community wherein every Lala knows at LEAST 3-5 more.
They randomly emote at their fellow Lalas when walking through the cities, congregate in Lala-only FC's, Lala-only linkshells, engage in Lala-only RP. On top of having such a wide berth of players, from the pinnacle of diaperfag babyplay degeneracy, to the most cancerous, obnoxious meme-loving fucks this side of Ala Mhigo.
You do not see this shit with ANY other race. It's absolutely bizarre.
That said I still want to fuck the everloving shit out of one.
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>>385350971
Oh god please no! I'd rather have Sourpuss Tancred ruin every scene then have Poochie back.
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>>385351070
Yes, but not like that. He loves Minfilia as a daughter.
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>trying to savage for 2 weeks
>my dormant carpal tunnel kicks in full force from all the repetition and extra work to pick up the slack of netflix healers and sub 2k tanks
it's a terrible feeling
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>>385350763
You're up early today, going to put in a 3pm to 6am shift of hating the game today?
Fuck off back to /vg/, you outed yourself last night as being a neet that only plays this game and whines about it for 16 hours a day
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>>385351204
Is that guy Azure Xanh? He reminds me of Azure Xanh.
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>>385351093

Lalafells are psychopaths.
Amongst all the shit players you will meet, the worst ones are going to be Lalafells.

Next worst will likely be Au'ra. But the cats are also terrible.

Elezens are low key sluts, same for the Roes. Elezens are likely to be the nicest players you encounter though.

>>385351204

No clue what the fuck you're on about famalam. I'm sorry more than one person hates your shitty game.
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>>385351070
Platonic love not romantic love, she's his daughteru
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>>385350798
To be fair, Thancred in SB was a bit like his old self, making silly jokes and trying to be more positive about things.
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>>385350805
bittersweet memories of what once was
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>>385351296
>the nicest players you encounter
From experience these are au ra, roes and endgame lalas in tryhard gear

Female elezen just afk dance in town in slut bikinis, and male elezen are almost as bad as male cats. Speaking of male cats, THAT's the real shit group
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>>385333241
XIV in general has a problem with that.
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>>385351290
No its C something, he's extremely autistic and outs himself instantly in every thread by regurgitating the same complaints and the same "defenses" when hes called out, he genuinely thinks people won't recognize him when he's in these threads from afternoon til pre dawn literally every day
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>>385350763
>thread going smoothly
>obsessed yuropoors shit up the thread screaming about Americans
Yeah, we're the cancer
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>>385335180
>Yotsuyu is pissed for entirely legit reasons
>Zenos just wanted a friend
Fuck off and double fuck off. "A couple of Domans did bad things to me, so it's okay to torture and murder innocents!" and Zenos was just a psycho. The only sympathy you could have for him would be if you tried to claim it wasn't his fault, because he was mentally ill and didn't know what he was doing.
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>>385329829
Join the Malboro server and jump into my FC, anon. There have been multiple instances of cringe-worthy 12 year old faggots getting booted for being genuinely autistic and it's fucking amazing every time it happens.
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>>385351556
yes I think male cats are objectively the worst group in the game

The feeling of dread when one appears in a roulette and says "Salut ^.^"
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>>385351361
Yeah, but he was in the 4.0 story even less than Y'shtola, and he didn't even have the excuse of getting Zenos'd.
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>>385351556
>tfw the only two male cats I know are chill and are probably the nicest people I know
>one made me a mog weapon for free and a round weapon for someone else also for free
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>>385350695
That is just shatter.
Shatter is shit.
3 way pvp sucks
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>>385351630
Yotsuyu isn't really that angry about domans, it's just that torturing them is her fetish.
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>>385333858
There's a reason why they added the Far East to this expansion. They new an entire expansion about the (other) desert City State would be fucking boring.
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>>385351093

i think i sat next to you on a bench in Kugane
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>>385351630
>he was mentally ill and didn't know what he was doing.
>you know realize Stormblood was the eorzeans siccing their weird mute autist on the garleans rabid weeb autist
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>>385351093
I'm a lala player and I tend to try staying away from other lalas. Pretty much like being by myself unless I raid with static
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>>385351854
Highly unlikely. The only reason I go to Kugane nowadays is to loaf about in the secret hot springs.
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Are Au Ra players as edgy as the race looks
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>>385351732
at least he actually did something useful
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>>385351290
>tfw Azure Xanh's fflogs got unhidden
Hahaha holy shit he was so fucking bad.
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>>385335365
Just like in real life conversations, memes when used appropriately are fine, while replacing all conversation with memes is going to get you odd looks, followed by people ignoring you.
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I heard they added Red Mage to this game, but apparently it starts at level 50. Does that mean you just aren't allowed to start off as one? it's one of my favorite FF classes. Also are Samurai/Dark Knight themed after the ones in Tactics or something else?
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>>385351093

i'm a femlala, and admittedly a troll and memelord. i love to spam /happy at people
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>>385351732
His excuse is lack of magic and doing secret ninja things in the background, kinda like Minfilia doing diplomatic things off-screen.
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>>385351556
youre wrong about the au ras. most of them are autistic elitist parsefags

and roes theyre either the nicest person or the most asshole. no in between
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>>385351718
I wish I still kept the log of that male cat in Roulette Menagerie who types in a pretend "positive you can do it!" persona, ends every fucking sentence with "!", and fills the chat with dumb shit like "o-owwww" every time he gets hit by something.
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>>385352079
Did he do anything in 4.0? I literally don't even remember him being in the story.
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>>385352192
You cannot start as one, but you can become one as soon as you complete the ARR launch story.
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>>385352192
you can't start as one right off the bat, but if you buy a level skip potion you can unlock it immediately
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>>385352290
He found Krile and led you to her. He also helped you infiltrate the civilian district and open the gates for the resistance.
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>>385352290
he helped us infiltrate Ala Mhigo and rescued Krile
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>>385352275
Better parsefags than roleplayers and memers. Roes are either too good for this world or a total passive aggressive cunt but luckily the latter is rare to begin with and nowhere nearly Midlander levels of bad. Hilariously the one Roe I blacklisted is now (Unable to retrieve)
>>
Sucks being a male cat and constantly seeing people shiit on them because there's a lot of shitters/women/faggots out there.
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Krile is such shit, did they think giving her hood those stupid ears was going to make her endearing and make up for her lack of a personality
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>>385352487
FUCK YOU ASSHOLE ALL I SAID WAS HI
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>>385352426
>>385352396
Oooooh yeaaaah! I forgot he did his Rogue thing and spied on the lab.
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>>385352660
She has the cutest loli granny seiyuu I literally don't give a fuck how shit of a character she is, she's perfect.
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Darkside should be a permanent trait, so I won't have a stroke every time I see a dark knight without it.
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>o7
>this will be the official name of a raid
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>>385334541
>>385334819
Just, for the love of god, if you play a male Midlander, don't use any of the facial hair options. They all make you look like you superglued pubic hair to your face.
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>>385353034
But what if I play a midlander with sideburns?
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I keep being paired with paladin shitters that insist on only using rage of halone and being a moron with cooldown management

shit triggers me to no end
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>>385353269
What level ranfe are you talking?
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>>385353105
That's fine, if you can make it work. Also, that midlander face is criminally underrated, so kudos.
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Can't wait for all the two digital rewards in 5.0's collector edition.
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>>385353269
>PLDs that play like they're still at lvl 50
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>>385352660
She wears Krile's WHM sprite outfit from V you pleb
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>>385339297
Ahahahaahahahaha!

But actually yes. If you have the money for a house, immediately go to Lavender Beds, Goblet or Mist and pick one up when everyone abandons their current houses to try and move to the new hotness in Shirogane.
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>>385353008
Will be lightning be on omega?.
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>>385352289
you think that's bad? I had a RDM catboy called "Joker" who had a macro for the persona 5 awakening scene dialogue every single time he did his burst combo
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>>385351575
>Estinien
Still did more than most of the scions simply through disabling the cannon. So, while it's not like he had a huge major role, he still did something.
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>v8 normal
>Kuja is the final boss
>towards the end of the fight he tries to cast ultima, but dies before he can finish the cast
>v8s
>Kuja successfully casts ultima
>you only survive if his health was reduced below a certain threshold
>suddenly Necron shows up
>Omega personally chimes in to say that it has no idea where Necron came from or why he is here now
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>>385353034
I use that face but don't use the facial hair
It makes you look like a 14 year old that doesn't want to shave
Just give me a full but short trim beard damn it, or at least a full goatee
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>>385346135
Why is Nael an Elezen?
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>>385347759
Best girl. I'm glad she's not completely forgotten in Stormblood, but I always wanted more interactions with her.
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>>385353797
>Necron shows up
>Grand Cross starts casting
ENOUGH
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>>385354006
Laziness. Most garleans are basically elezen without pointy ears (giving them unique faces is how they try to hide it), kinda like how Yugiri was a miqote with scaly tail until patch 2.5 (you still can find the 3D model of her tail in miqote-related files).
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>>385336642
Ah yes, because
>*clenches fist*
>*angry face*
>"Why aren't you throwing your lives away for nothing?!"
is a far better character than fucking Yotsuyu.
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>>385348843
Please don't say things like this. It will only make me sad when it doesn't happen.
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>>385354470
Two differently shaped piles of shit.
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>>385351808
It sure does. If you suck at tactics.
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>>385354781
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>>385354973
where the FUCK are they going
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>>385354973
The obvious solution would be to head north via base, and hit the big ice from above while Adder and Mael duke it out in mid, but god damn that would be hard to explain in Alliance chat. More likely they're just going to go straight into mid and die to Adder while Mael gets the big ice.
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>>385354973
>team going middle gets spanked and loses points
>team going west captures base for 5 minutes and gets spanked
>enemies get crystals and your team is dead last

Whoah good tactic
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>>385329829
The story grind is literally unbearable. You can't skip any of the story and the story has hundreds of quests. It's the main hurdle you have to be okay with.

Also dungeons delevel you inclusing taking away abilities if you are above them which means that every dungeon takes forever to clear when leveling.

If you can get passed these two things then you will be fine because the end game is okay and as painfully mediocre as ff14 is it's still one of the best mmos on the market that is populated.
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