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Will there ever be a good Pokemon game again?

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Will there ever be a good Pokemon game again?
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>>385318770
1st Gen was the peak, the one-hit wonder. So no, Pokemon won't ever be good again.
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>>385318770
Gen 1, 3 and 5 are the best
odds > evens
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>>385318770
No
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sumo were good tho

can't wait for ultra sumo
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If USUM:
Bring back gyms
Cut the cutscenes in half
Make the new pokemon more common
Have good postgame
It'll be good
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>>385318770

>B/W2 and Not B/W

Get ye gone, faggot.
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>>385318770
Wait, why are you comparing remasters (I don't know a better term) to a vanilla version?
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Pokémon silver was the best. Being able to revisit the gyms from thr first game and battle red at the end was the shit
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>>385318976
t. alakazam
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>>385319119
>RBY
>good
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>>385319336
nice one Anon
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>>385318770
I hope not
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>>385319191
Cuck shill.
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>>385319336
Both are great, but if you think 1>2 youre mentally ill.
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>>385319420
Because the third version of gen 7 is going to be half-assed, it's out basically tomorrow and there's still no news on it besides a couple of legendaries in black trenchcoats.
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V > IV > I > VII > VI > III > II
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>>385319643
>Both are great
BW has a weaker replay value and falls apart if you are not into the story
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>>385319487
Why the fuck is this post so funny?
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USUM needs to have top tier content for it to redeem SM.
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>>385319449
Gold and Silver were better than Red and Blue because they fixed a lot of the glitches, but that's it. The Gen 2 monster designs are pretty lame except for a handful of them, and the level distribution is complete shit. Why the fuck do you still run into sub-lvl20 Pokemon right before the 8th gym?
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>>385319648
Do you want the whole fucking game spoiled like the last three titles we got?
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>>385319643

I loved the region lock and plot and don't really care about post-game.

>>385319751

>Weaker replay value

How? That's like saying every RPG with a story has no replay value.
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>>385319761
because it's true
psychic types were broken as fuck in gen1
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>>385319840
I want to know that they are confident enough to show something.
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>>385319449
The most pleb opinion other than MUH 151

When GS comes out on VC and you guys actually play it you'll be forced to deal with the game not being as god tier as you remember it.
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>>385319751
I replay BW like every year. Never get tired of it.
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>>385319961
Its pretty fun to Nuzlocke but I prefer BW2
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>>385319681
IV > V > III > II > VI > I > VII
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>>385319843
BW were very story oriented compared to the previous games with scripted sequences and unskipable dialogue, if you don't care about the story or already know what is going to happen (in other words, button mashing through the dialogue) it becomes a tedious task because almost every single location before the postgame has something going on, the difference becomes very noticeable if you play the gen 1 remakes after it
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>>385319541
They were good
The only people who say they aren't good are smogon faggots who try to meta play rather than just enjoy them.
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>>385320086
>4 is the best
Wow, thats some shit taste you got there.
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>last Pokemon I enjoyed all the way to completion was Black 2
>own Pokemon X, Pokemon AS, and Pokemon Moon
>can never finish a single one of them

What the fuck is wrong with me? I just get really fucking bored with them before I reach the end. Black 2 was the last game I got invested in enough to even learn the breeding mechanics, and now I just can't fucking finish a 3D pokemon game. Hell, I wanted a Hoenn remake forever and now that I finally have it I just can't bring myself to enjoy it.
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>>385320116

So it's a standard RPG then. Honestly, if you want a Pokemon game that doesn't have plot just play fucking Stadium.

>>385320215

IV had a great region, music, designs and was probably the most important from a mechanical standpoint.
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>>385320215
4 is only on top because HGSS carried them. I couldn't give a rats ass about the Sinnoh region.
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>>385320158
They get points for starting the franchise but there is no reason to play them besides nostalgia, the remakes are direct upgrades that add staple features like the exp bar and hold items while adding extra content. Gen 1 also had moves that didn't worked as intended, some of them being flat out broken while others were useless
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What if Sun and Moon were so handholdy and tutorial ish so that they could could completely forgo a tutorial of any kind and properly prepare people for ultra sun and ultra moon being the most difficult games in the franchise?
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>>385320325
>IV had a great region, music, designs
t. 13 when they came out
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>>385320325
>playing Pokémon for the story
Oh yes I can't wait for yet another plot about [evil team] using route 1 shitmon with the occasional commander and the evil team leader trying to use [box legendary] to take over [region]

Because story is the reason why people play Pokémon
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>>385320158
They're still fun, but other than nostalgia there's literally no reason to go back and play them when there's the superior remake
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>>385320215
Platinum is amazing and HGSS are pretty great.
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>>385320434
Sinnoh is the comfiest region with the best music.
And the distortion world was cool.
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>>385320547

And that's why I appreciate B/W's plot. Because it actively took the piss out of that formula.
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>>385319119
Basically my taste, although i thought 2 was fine.
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>>385320547
To be fair, Gen 5 had the best plot of any Pokemon generation to date. It actually spoiled me because I can't give much of a fuck about the future gens since grinding Pokemon is boring without a good story for me to get invested in.
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>>385319119
>no gen 2

how do you fucking live with yourself
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>>385320682
In what way? The only difference is that the saturday morning cartoon villain is manipulating a pretentious fujobait furfag into using said box legendary, I will give credit that the execution was different enough but its still not that much of a big deal
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4>2>5>3>1>6>7
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>>385318770
They've all been good. Stop acting like a contrarian "mature" gamer.
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>>385320308
I enjoyed X, but it wound up being really easy and short. The dungeons were uninteresting and there was always someone to fully heal all your pokemon. Also you kept getting pulled from your pokemon quest to fight some generic bad guys you didn't really care about, which was draining.

The big problem with the games is that they don't seem to be about going on an adventure to collect all the pokemon, beat all the gym leaders and become the champion of the elite 4. Now they're about saving the universe from saturday morning villains, and then IV breeding.
>>385320562
>>385320452
I agree, the remakes are superior in everway. I wasn't saying that gen I was the best, but they are still good games.
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>>385320946
A """"""mature"""""" gamer wouldn't like any of them, you stupid faggot.
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>>385320770
Gen 2 is worse than 1 in every way. Literal quantity over quality. All Johtoddlers need to kill themselves desu.
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>>385320785

Are you being intentionally glib or did you just not pay attention to the story?
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>>385320601
>my snow and swamp routes
Sinnohfags are the worse, the region had too much HM shit and Coronet was a big middle finger that was supposed to be important yet it just looks like any other cave in the game but with even more HM garbage throw in, the snow routes slow you down and there is no reason to cross them more than once, some of the cities look like something out of a third world country and there are too many pointless NPC blocks, some of them not even making sense

It gets even worse if you are playing DP where everything is slower, exploring the water routes is awful because of the surfing speed and the awful dex
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What's the best version of Gen 1? Red?
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>>385320770
Gen 2 is overrated, Emerald and FRLG were more fun due to postgame

Keep in mind I have a complete living dex so I know what I'm talking about.
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>>385321141
>le DP is slow maymay

How about you do us all a favor and kill yourself sweetie?
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>>385321321
I am playing Pearl right now and the memes are real, you can go fuck yourself nostalgiafag
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>>385319957

Cept i played it again last summer and it was great.

Sorry you missed out on literally the best time to be a pokemon fan. I just need you to know that it was truly glorious.
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>>385321212
Yellow
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>>385321212
Red/Blue 3ds virtual console
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>>385321321
DP really are slow as fuck. Even as a child I hated how painfully slow everything was.
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>>385321321
DP is slow as fuck.
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>>385321097
>better music
>fixed the God awful gen 1 sprites
>fixed some of the broken mechanics
>Increased the bag size
>able to set items as the select button
>Battle tower
Worse than gen 1 in every way
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>>385321380
I'm pretty sure Yellow is universally considered the worst.
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>>385321071
Oh you're right. Since I'm so mature I should go play GTA and Gears Of War and Uncharted because I'm an """""""adult"""""".

Mature gamers play any game, cause they're mature and sure of themselves that they just enjoy whatever they want.

And my point still stands. All the Pokemon's are good
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>>385320770

I really cannot wait until the G/S rerelease so this meme can die.
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>>385321613
Don't forget
>colors
>exp bar
>hold items
>animated sprites (if Crystal)
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>>385321967
Also the special split and steel/dark types
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>>385321380
Yellow is literally the worst Pokemon game ever made. Only animecucks like it.
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>>385321738
>GTA and Gears Of War and Uncharted

Why the fuck are you even mentioning these completely unrelated series in a thread about the varying quality of Pokemon games? Being mature or an adult literally has no bearing on this thread. You have no point, you mongoloid.
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>>385321372
Im 27 dude, I played it and played better Pokemon games. Youre just a nostalgiafag.

Also the Battle Tower was in Crystal, not GS.
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But Sun and Moon are the best Pokemon games since Platinum.
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>>385318770
Has there ever been a good pokemon game?
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>>385319119
>gen 4 has platinum and HG/SS
Gen 4 is actually the best
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Only gen 1 and 2 are good.

I don't understand why anyone still has hope they will ever be good again.
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>>385323167
Platinum to BW2 was the golden age
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>>385318770
SUMO has the building blocks of one of potentially the best Pokemon game of all time.

It was either rushed or not thought all the way through so it wasn't that good, but it objectively surpassed everything before it in A LOT of ways.

If SUMO didn't happen at all and instead another reboot or remake took it place, there'd be no hope for pokemon, SUMO is that hope.
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>>385323637
>SUMO

Fr*ck off.
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>Gen 6 was so bad it never even got a third version or sequel set

JUST
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>>385323637
>SUMO has the building blocks of one of potentially the best Pokemon game of all time.
> but it objectively surpassed everything before it in A LOT of ways.
You could say this about any new generation game.
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>>385323805
did you just fucking comment on my post?
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>>385323809
Good. Kalos and gen 6 as a whole fucking sucked. Unless they went a completely different direction, a 3rd version would not do anything.
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>>385323637
Reddit spacing, reddit acronym. I hate how pokemon threads just bring out the underage
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gen 2 was the peak of pokemanz and everything past gen 4 is irredeemable garbage
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>>385324042
>t. normie who quit after gen 2 but played go with his normie faggot friends
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>>385323809
ORAS was way better than XY, fuck Kalos
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They tried, it was called Gen V. It was rejected, so now it will be Gen 1 pandering, tutorial-ridden, hour long cutscenes from here on out.
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>>385320485
>13 in 2006
Yeah that seems about the average age of a pokemon fan. Mean they started on the first games when they were 6-7. Did you start them in high school you stupid faggot?
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>>385324215
Glad I'm not the only one who sees this. They try to do something different and got crucified for it. I really liked not being able to lean back on any old favorites in B/W. It helped me use pokemon I otherwise would not.
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>>385318770

> according to this image the only good pokemon games are remakes

> SUMO confirmed for a remake

OP is absolutely retarded
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The one on the Switch.
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>>385323902
Absolutely not, XY fell into A LOT of pitholes and had literally no idea where it was going. What was good or new about XY on the same level as what SUMO did?

Megavolution...?

Pokemon amie?

Nothing not even gsc put as many good ideas into the series at once that completely changed the way the game is looked at.

Regional Variants (the idea not the execution)

Pokeriders

Island challenge

These are the big three that make everything before SUMO look tired and pointless.
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>>385324513
B2W2 are sequels, not remakes. By definition.
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>>385324598
[list of improvements in generation 6]
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>>385324513
>> according to this image the only good pokemon games are remakes
>Emerald is a remake
>Platinum is a remake
>BW2 are remakes
>Fire Red/Leaf Green are not remakes
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>>385324621
>>385324676

Who cares you semantical autists, they are ALL re-visits or """"sequels"""" of previous games.
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>>385324384
>t. permanently underage mad
Just because you were born after the cancer cutoff doesn't mean everyone else was

If you were 13 or younger when generation 4 came out, there's a massive problem. But I really should have said 10 because that would have been a better age to explain his blind nostalgia
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>>385324676
>>BW2 are remakes
This is a sequel

>>385324676
>>Emerald is a remake
>>Platinum is a remake
These are remasters.

Ultra Sun and Moon are remasters.
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>>385324815
You are missing Fire Red/Leaf Green and Crystal, then.
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>>385324663
Name one that actually changed anything.

Because I can only think of two that ONLY changed battling.

Fairy and mega evolution

The entry was completely forgettable and didn't even change the core of what's wrong the Pokemon games outside of battles.

I'd argue fairy is a shitty typing only because actually using or fighting a fairy is basically memorizing the random retarded weaknesses and strengths it has.
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>>385318770
>No gen 6
Such a cucked gen they all committed suicide.
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>>385324841
Your post just makes me laugh. I actually pity you.

>>385324815
>who cares about words and meanings, everything means whatever I feel like it should mean
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>>385322743

>You're just a nostalgiafag

Not really. They older games are just flat out better games. After Emerald, the only decent games were Platinum and BW2. Since X/Y, the games have been absolutely irredeemable.

>b-but they're more broken!!

Who gives a crap? The games had more interesting region layouts and while still easy weren't painstakingly easy. FACE IT. The older games are better.

>Also the Battle Tower was in Crystal, not GS.

Uh, okay? When did I say that it wasn't? This isn't relevant.

Gen 2 isn't perfect. It has poor scaling and bizarre pokemon placement decisions(why the fuck do we get Growlithe near Ekruteak but Houndour near Celadon, for example?) but still is probably the most loved main series pokemon game between it and HGSS.

Admit it, if you were to bet money on the "favorite" region you'd bet money on Johto.
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>>385324938
I would appreciate it if you noticed that I'm using meme arrows to point that what he's saying is wrong, showing examples of the implications of his post, anon.
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The addition of 72 new Pokémon
The introduction of the Fairy type
The addition of 62 new moves
The addition of 27 new Abilities
The games now feature a completely three dimensional environment, as well as a new 3D battle system with 3D models for Pokémon as opposed to 2D sprites.
A new battle mechanic, Mega Evolution, which can only happen during a battle and will wear off once the battle ends. This is only available for certain Pokémon.
Another region to explore, the Kalos region, far away from the previous five and based on France.
A new villainous team, Team Flare, whose goal is to make money and create a beautiful world for themselves and eliminate all who don't meet their standards.
The ability for the player to walk in an eight directional grid as opposed to the four directional grid that has been common in all the preceding games.
Three new battle modes:
A new battle mode called Sky Battles, where only certain Flying-type Pokémon, or those whose Ability is Levitate can participate.
Another battle mode called Horde Encounters, where multiple wild Pokémon will engage in a battle against one of the player's Pokémon.
The third format is known as an Inverse Battle, which completely reverses type matchups.
The introduction of ambush encounters, occurrences where wild Pokémon chase the player or jumping at them from a hiding place to initiate a Pokémon battle, somewhat similar to the phenomena mechanic.
The addition of Super Training, a way to increase a Pokémon's EVs.
The addition of customization for the player, with the ability to choose a variety of outfits to wear at any time.
The new Pokémon Bank, an online Nintendo 3DS application that will allow the storage of up to 3000 Pokémon through the payment of an annual fee.
TMs have been expanded from 95 to 100.
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Pokemon went to shit after they caved to nostalgiafag demands after B/W
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>>385318770
Just make an updated Gale of Darkness mixed with a bunch of Gen 1 pandering. 5 mill sales guaranteed
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>>385325229
Pity me all you want, it won't make sinnoh good
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>>385325335
Gen 1 pandering with mega and regional variants is cancer.
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>>385325435

>he thinks Platinum is bad

Your loss, anon.
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>>385325293
>that list
Jesus anon, why did you even bother listing shit like Sky Battles and a N E W evil team?
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>>385325491

>implying Beedrill and Pidgeot didn't deserve a buff

Nigga try to argue this shit I fucking DARE YOU.
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arent they gonna make a pokemon rpg that plays like botw?
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>>385325508
Platinum is bad. Compared to Emerald and BW2. It's not my loss because I played it
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>>385325293
>The addition of 72 new Pokémon
>The addition of 62 new moves
>The addition of 27 new Abilities
>A new villainous team, Team Flare, whose goal is to make money and create a beautiful world for themselves and eliminate all who don't meet their standards.
Every game new gen adds these.

>A new battle mode called Sky Battles, where only certain Flying-type Pokémon, or those whose Ability is Levitate can participate.
A mechanic dropped within the same gen.
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>>385318976
gen 1 is objectively broken (slots of shit straight up didn't work) and inferior mess, the original designs didn't even all appear in that game there were supposed to be 190 which later appeared in gen 2, now if you said pokemon crystal is the peak you would have had an argument on your hand.
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>>385325602
They're all objective improvements that are building blocks for one of potentially the best Pokemon games of all time
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>>385325650

>Platinum is bad

Not particularly. I enjoyed it a lot.

>Compared to Emerald and BW2

I mean BW2's challenge mode is a taste of what I've always wanted in Pokemon, I can admit that its better, but better than Emerald? I don't really see how.
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>>385325752
>Every game new gen adds these.
>You could say this about any new generation game.
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Powercreep is the cancer that killed pokemon. Gen 7 actually tried to subvert this trend by generating a whole new slew of shitmons since it had regional variants of gen 1 shitmons existing alongside new pokemon and they wanted people to give those regional variants a try without being too autistic about how worse they were statwise compared to other new pokemon.
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The worst part about the Pokémon games is they will introduce a feature that is almost universally liked and then keep it exclusive to that particular game and not bring it forward. The VS seeker to rematch any trainer, battle frontier, gym leader rematches, unlockable challenge mode, etc should all be staples going forward but they aren't.

Platinum/HG/SS are the best in terms of the content both pre and post game, with B2/W2 following.
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We will never get quality titles like B2/W2 again. We can only hope that US/UM provide a bit more content than Ultra versions of the main legendaries.
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>>385318976
With all the programming mistakes and battle system mistakes, no, it's objectively the worst.
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>>385325828
That's okay, you're too reddit to see it
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HG/SS had the best minigames, try to prove me wrong.
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>>385325950

I don't browse reddit, so you're going to have to do better than that my man
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>>385318976
>1st Gen was the peak
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gen 4 meta was objectively the worst meta
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>>385326007
Then you shouldn't nonsensical reddit openers like "I mean" when in context you didn't mean anything

Emerald doesn't have a forgettable region where you just meme all over the place in no coherent order because of the cockblock mountain.
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I have not played a pokemon game since Sapphire and I don't intend to.
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>>385326128
>Then you shouldn't nonsensical reddit openers like "I mean" when in context you didn't mean anything
Holy turbo fucking autism. Hahahahahahaha.
There's disconnect with the reality, and then there's you.
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I like 2, 3 and 1 remakes
Even though HG/SS was objectively superior it reminds me too much of the travesty that was D/P.
Platinum on the other hand was great.

Sun and Moon was enjoyable to me because it was so fresh.
Everyone should appreciate the new take on the music since we all know the early gen soundtracks cant be topped.

>weird, glitchy electronic sounds making the Aether Foundation feel alien and incoherent
https://youtu.be/KeEy-JlTZxY
>spooky, slightly sad tune that'S in contrast to the usual Team Skull craziness and street style
https://youtu.be/eeObKdGjrno
>features hawaiian vocals
https://youtu.be/cKr616BOslU
>unusual progression with a confusing beat throughout
https://youtu.be/xl4g9GpKgkM
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>>385326276
You played 1 gen too many.
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>>385326128

>"nonsensical reddit opener"

"I mean" has been used in that manner since before the internet. Get a grip, man.

>Emerald doesn't have a forgettable region where you just meme all over the place in no coherent order because of the cockblock mountain.

No but dat water. Emerald isn't perfect either. And BW2's is literally a circle.
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>>385318976
>gen 1
>peak
More like streak... of shit
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I make pretty decent money botting and selkingPGO accounts. Less noe that ita not pppuksr but still enough to let the bots run while i sleep. Never made shit on Pokémon yellow.

So I guess the answer is yes.
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Gen 2, 4, and 5 were good
Actually only 4 was good fuck you
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>>385325293
terrible progression tho. After the first 3 gyms, the rest of the game becomes WAY too easy. Post game is literally just gen 1 legendaries and collecting mega stones. Most forgettable gen.
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>>385326710
>Actually only Slow:the gen was good fuck you
keking at your shit taste m8
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>>385326370
>"I mean" has been used in that manner since before the internet
But by who? Retarded normies who don't know what they look like because they've never been on an anonymous forum where they're subjected to real criticism. Continue using reddit openers if you want to look like that

>And BW2's is literally a circle.
Unova as a region is a weakness but BW2 overpowers with everything else other than story
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>>385325606

Staraptor was a far better bird than Pidgeot could ever claim to be and deserves more love.
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>>385326710
>Saving a lot of data....
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>>385318770
Pokemon games were never good. They really don't hold up to the test of time, you just like them because of nostalgia.
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>>385326370

>This tired argument

All of them have a set circle to the path you take. You just got to swap a couple of towns around if you wanted in some games.
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>>385326920
Says who?
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>>385327069
Anyone who compares them to real JRPGs like SMT.
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SuMo was the first kino pokemon game.
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No Pokemon hasn't been good for 3 generations.
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>>385326327
>the travesty that was D/P.
>Platinum on the other hand was great.
I see you're another brainless retard parroting what he hears others say.

>>385321476
>>385321557
>>385321367
You're playing a turn-based RPG. Which is one of the slowest video game genres out there Even then, you can increase text speed and disable battle animations.
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>>385326840
>But by who?
By people who know english and aren't mentally challenged. Clearly you don't fit that description.
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>>385327135
>gen 4
>good
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>>385327123
>SMT
>good
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>>385327134
You mean S&M?
Did they also give up on Megas completely?
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>>385326783
Oh the irony
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>>385318770
>first version is comparable to third versions/sequels
wew
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>>385327220
Plebs not welcome
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>>385318976
>t. genwunner
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>>385326840

>But by who? Retarded normies who don't know what they look like because they've never been on an anonymous forum where they're subjected to real criticism. Continue using reddit openers if you want to look like that

I don't care about what I look like on an anonymous image board. That is the entire point. I don't need to save face and man is it hilarious that you think I need to. Flex your chan cred in a different discussion, as its not really relevant.

>Unova as a region is a weakness but BW2 overpowers with everything else other than story

Yeah, whereas Sinnoh actually has a lot of effort put into its Region and most whine about it instead of embracing it. I love Sinnoh. It has great music, locations, and Platinum made it worthy. I won't defend D/P but to say Platinum is bad doesn't sit right with me.

I stand by my earlier claim here from a different discussion >>385325241. Platinum and BW2 were the last good games and frankly when taken in this context(the series overall) you have to admit you'd rather another Platinum than another X/Y.
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I hope the game they're making for the switch is a gen 4 remake. Still my favorite gen and we wouldn't have gotten the best Pokemon out of it.
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>>385320470
No, because these games are still made for kids in the end. Battle Tree is there for the minmaxers
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>>385327264
XY didn't even get 3rd versions and whatever god forsaken abbreviation the new ultra ones have look like the laziest turds gamefreak has ever forced out of their ragged overused anus
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>>385327407
That's not Porygon-Z
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>>385327407

>wanting a gen 4 remake after they put out the trash that is ORAS

please no, they just don't have that spark anymore anon clearly they can't make good games. HGSS, Platinum, and BW2 were the last good ones.
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>>385327150
I graduated with a 4.0 GPA, how about you?

Starting your sentence with "I mean" out of context is about as useful as inserting "like" every third word, only it makes you look three times as much like a quirky journalist who reports from on reddit posts for stories.

Continue doing it merely because it's accepted amongst the unwashed masses if you want. Just be aware you look like a faggot.

>>385327326
>I don't care about what I look like on an anonymous image board
So you choose to intentionally insert useless space to make yourself look retarded.

And yes XY is shit.
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>>385327541
They've released next to no info on them. We might even have the same director as BW2 on them.
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>All these literal children who were born too late to appreciate Gen 1, 2 and 3

Feels good not having shit taste. Anybody playing Pokemon after BW2 have some criminally shit taste and have no leg to stand on.

Inb4 your terrible arguments and defending your awful opinions.
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>>385327668

>So you choose to intentionally insert useless space to make yourself look retarded.

I have no face anon. You can assume I am but from my perspective, it is you being foolish. Just how new are you to 4chan buddy?

>he seriously thinks he can save face when he has no face

It's pointless my man. Stop.
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>>385327548
Let's agree to disagree; You agree to Torterra being the best and I disagree that Porygon-Z is the best.
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>>385327805
A lot less new than you if you have massive nostalgia for gen 4. You probably started coming here this decade.

I'm not trying to save face. I just need to put you in your place, so maybe you'll learn in future
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>>385327805
What's with all the reddit spacing nowadays?
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>>385327815
>>385327548

yall have shite taste I mean COME ON
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>>385327273
Then leave.
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>>385327668
Yeah, my point was that you didn't fit the "not mentally challenged" part, but of course you didn't get it.
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>>385327795
Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald were all underwhelming for me.

- Only Gen in the series that isn't compatible with the previous Gen
- Day/Night cycles are gone
- Ugly graphics
- Trumpet music everywhere
- Bland level design
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>>385327934

>massive nostalgia for gen 4

You're confused. I said Platinum was decent. Hyperbole isn't enhancing your arguments, buddy. It's almost as if you're being driven solely by the drive to argue for the sake arguing.

>You probably started coming here this decade

2006 bud.

> I just need to put you in your place, so maybe you'll learn in future

You're doing a real bang up job, then.

>>385327942

nice
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>>385328014
I got it. But it would have also been better to argue that I didn't fit the knows English part because I made a typo after editing my post.

I mean, continue to, like, type like a complete reddit normie if you want, dawg. But it kinda... will make you be taken less seriously, you know...? Because you'll sound like, kinda a complete faggot?
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>>385318770
Series peaked with Heart Gold Soul Silver. It did everything right. Good sprites, nice blend of classic setting and new pokemon. POKEMON COULD FOLLOW YOU OUTSIDE OF THEIR GODDAMN POKEBALL
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>>385328205
That's because you jumped into an argument someone else was having half way.

> It's almost as if you're being driven solely by the drive to argue for the sake arguing.
What a surprise that would be.

You've been here just as long as me and you still didn't learn not to use reddit openers. Now you know.
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>>385320308
Yeah, what the fuck *is* wrong with you? You kept buying all the shitty 3DS games even though they kept being disappointing and boring you? Listen to your conscience and learn to control your money, you nut.
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>>385328359
>POKEMON COULD FOLLOW YOU OUTSIDE OF THEIR GODDAMN POKEBALL
That's such a worthless feature.
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>>385328997
Such a non-functional but cool feature.
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>>385328671

>That's because you jumped into an argument someone else was having half way.

There really wasn't much to that argument before I jumped in. You should be used to people chiming in man it has happened on every internet forum since ever.
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>>385325606
Pandering isn't giving specific underrated typings buffs
Pandering is giving away mass-promoted party members and flooding every single early route with Rattatas and Pidgeys in each "new" region.
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>>385329058
>but cool feature.
Maybe if you're some ashnimefag.
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>>385329083
>You should be used to people chiming in man it has happened on every internet forum since ever.
And you should be used to people confusing who's who here.
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>>385318770
No. After X/Y, ORAS, and S/M GameFreak has learned that they can make a mediocre as fuck game and it will sell like hotcales. Expect the least amount of effort for PokéSwitch.
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>>385329165
If you dislike the feature so much that you would rather have it gone you must really hate fun.

Saying ashnime almost implies there is another pokemon anime, which there isn't outside short promotional material. Of course I watched that as a kid.
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>>385318770
I heard Pokémon Go is good. Why don't you go outside and exercise?
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>>385328359
>Series peaked with Heart Gold Soul Silver. It did everything right.
You consider terrible level curves, slow gameplay, lack of VS Seeker for trainers, contrived Gym Leader rematch schedules, unfixed poor Johto pokemon distribution, and an extremely underwhelming Kanto to be "everything right?"
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>>385329512
It just copied GSC and added more stuff. Which is what remakes are supposed to do, and why ORAS was a disappointment.
>>
I would probably like 5 more if the designs weren't so trash.
I dunno even the gen 6 starters look better.

Plat and FR will probably stay my favorite's. Bulbasaur and Turtwig > Chikorita.
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>>385319487
why did this slay me
>>
>>385318770
Doubt it.

Cutscenes and interruptions were fucking rampant in pokemon sun. You could barely play for 20 minutes without being interrupted by some retard.

Basically what this guy said:
>>385319260
which won't happen.
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>>385318976

1st Gen was absolutely abhorrent, terrible, unplayable shit
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>>385330776
Wrong

It is abhorrent, terrible, unplayable shit compared to modern pokemon. It was not then
>>
Gen 4 and Gen 5 were the peak of Pokemon. It will never get better than that
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>>385330919

Okay, I can agree on that.
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>>385330776
are you 16 years old?
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>there are people who think B/W's story is good
You guys must have pretty low standards.
>>
>>385331254

Are you a nostalgiafag?
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>>385331417
No, but I played Pokemon when it came out and it was by no means
>abhorrent, terrible, unplayable shit
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>>385331636

It is compared to new games.
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>>385318770
>hgss
>good
ishygddt
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>>385331718
I enjoyed it much, much more than sumo or xy.
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>>385319119
This
Gen 2 isn't that good outside of Kanto and thats just a direct rip from the previous game so I'm not sure if I'd even count it as part of the games
Gen 4 just sucked cock
Gen 6 has been pretty damn shitty too
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>>385331932

because you were 5, i enjoyed eating glue when i was 5. Wouldn't recommend it now, even if it was pizza-flavored glue or some shit
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>>385332117
I played them on the DS just last month.
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>>385327668
>I graduated with a 4.0 GPA
Good job sport but middle School isn't hard
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>>385319119
gen 3 and 5 were garbage.

pokemon white was the first one I never finished.
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>>385332249

Literally impossible.
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>>385318976
>genwunners
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>>385331312
It was much better than anything Pokemon has done thus far though.
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>>385332481
I'd rather have a traditional Pokemon plot than something trying too hard.
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>>385318770
People who make these images are probably virgins and need to die.
>>
So this is how it looks like outside of /vp/.
>>
Playing Pokemon has always felt like a chore; don't lie to yourself. None of the stories are good.
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>>385327934
>You probably started coming here this decade
You mean like everyone here?
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>>385318770
Hopefully the console one will be good
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>>385329165
Fuck off you insufferable retard
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>played gen 1,3,4,6
>skipped gen 2,5,7
I hope it steps up for the switch
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Platinum is the single best pokemon game.
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>>385318976
>gen 1
>good
Problems with Gen 1:
- If you got frozen, you either had to pray for enemy to use a move that thaws out or use Ice Heal. In competitive, you were dead
- It took an entire round to wake up from sleep.
- The Psychic type.
- ahahahahaha special stat
- Criticals were based off Speed and ignored all stat changes, positive or negative.
- The amount of shakes if you didn't caught Pokemon wasn't influenced by a random number, meaning if you didn't catch it and you didn't weaken it further, it would shake the same amount as before
- Status inflicts flat bonus instead of a multiplier
- Focus Energy and Dire Hit were useless.
- X Accuracy made everything hit 100% time (but not ignore accuracy check like Swift), including fucking OHKOs
- Speaking of accuracy, the 1/256 accuracy fumble.
- Moves that boost Attack or Speed would remove penalty from burn and paralysis before boosting you, respectively, without removing the status
- Save every time you had to switch boxes and you couldn't do anything if the current Box was filled.
- Whirlwind and Roar did jackshit outside of wild battles.
- All of the trapping moves
- Rage.
- Disable and Mimic are random.
- Caterpie and Metapod solorun is impossible because Struggle is affected by type chart (Magikarp had events so it was theroetically possible)
- Leech Seed and Toxic used the same variable.
- In some situations, Great Ball was better than Ultra Ball
- Multihit moves calculated damage only on first hit
- The AI sucked.
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>>385333630
- Caterpie and Metapod solorun is impossible because Struggle is affected by type chart (Magikarp had events so it was theoretically possible) and AI didn't actually use its PP so you couldn't stall them out*
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>>385325241
>Irredeemable
Speaking as a gen IV fag, sun and moon came very close to usurping the spot for favorite Pokemon game
>>
Ultra sun/moon
Too hard to install though, don't bother
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>>385327615
Moon was great though. The region was gorgeous, they finally made a "nice" rival that wasn't entirely devoid of an interesting character arc, and the ultra beasts had some pretty interesting lore. Plus the Pokemon designs were cool.
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>>385318770
What is Sun and Moon?
>>
>>385320470
we can dream anon
>>
There was never a good furrymon game. It has always been shit for autistic and dorky kids. Back to containment

>>>/vp/
>>
BW2 is best game.
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>>385332379
bruh

http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/pokemon-red-version-3ds

>>385333630
These are such minor issues.
I enjoyed things like speed crit, 1% miss chance.

Other issues such as box save, ai being shit and sleep made the game decidedly less fun.

But nobody ever gave a fuck about struggle being typed, dire hit being bad or disable being random.
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>>385335151

Literally impossible to enjoy Gen 1 more than other games.
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>>385333214
>played 6
>skipped 5
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>>385324128
>t. projecting faggot who's favorite gen is 5
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>>385335286
>gen 1, first game
>gen 3, first game on the GBA
>gen 4, first game on the DS
>gen 6, first game on the 3DS
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>>385335276
how so?

the older games allow me to choose which route I wish, is more challenging and can be played without the TERRIBLE story forced down your throat at every turn.
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I just cannot reconcile the kawaii ugu~ style that developed after gen 4.
It's not the pokemon I grew up with, maybe this generation of young people is ok with their huge heads and huge powerpuff girl eyeballs but that shit completely took the spirit of the games out of it for me.
pic related, acceptable pokemon character design
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>>385335286
That's a good thing
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>>385336001
It's the games looking more like the anime.
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>>385336001
also the introduction of non-rivals, making it seem much more like your friend who just happens to be on the same path as you
but there's no real sense of competition or even danger like there was in G/S
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