Seriously who the fuck likes these guys?

Fo3 babbies

They are fucking assholes in every game

>>385310385
I kind of like them. The original ones, not the Bethesda goody-two-shoes faggots.

>>385310385
I didn't like them in 3, I really didn't like them in NV, but I sort of liked them in 4.

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>>385310385
FO1: Military assholes in a bunker
FO2: Detached military assholes and also war with NCR
FO3: Gallant white knight heroes of the wasteland but really they're just in it for themselves
FNV: Shellshocked military assholes in a bunker
FO4: Space marines

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>>385310385
>OP doesn't like fascist authoritarian dictatorships
What can /v/ do against such recless faggotry?

>>385311978
You forgot Fallout Tactics and Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel.

>>385311565
To be fair the good-two-shoes were possible in Falllout Tactics if you recruited the ghouls, deathclaws, Super Mutants and anything else in your quest against the robots. The whole setup was that the west coast brotherhood sent the biggest pussies east to chase the remnants of the masters armies, which was pretty much an excuse to get rid of what they saw as the weakest in the bunch.

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>>385312225
Because the Enclave does all of that only better

Me, they always have the best weapons/armor, unless theres enclave, then enclave all the way. Plus they are aesthetic as fuck

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>>385312225
>>385312476
Caesar does it all and better.

Why should I hate them?

>>385310385
Like the FO1/2/NV take on them, love them in Tactics. Not sure why people hate those incarnations of the BoS

>>385311172
which is why I like them.

>>385313239
People like the goody-two-shoes ones of FO3 because you have to make no moral compromise to side with them.

>>385313795
They're not bad I suppose, I just hate T-45d Power Armor.

>>385314291
all power armor in 3 was pretty shitty desu

>>385314806
The Hellfire PA looks alright, maybe if it wasn't supposed to be Enclave I wouldn't have any hangups about it.

>>385311565
They aren't all that good in FO4
They objective is technically good since they want to cleanse the Commonwealth but they are still kinda cunts about it, mostly because they refuse to let any humanlike synth live. Then again I didn't finish the story yet so I don't know all of it

>>385312476

Tfw no future game will have the Enclave back as a full on faction and let you join them and become the leader of an Authoritarian Wasteland

I just want a faction where you can be a fucking "shit" person by taking control of the land by force.

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>>385316338
The main problem I have with the BoS in 4 is this:

They funnel countless hours and resources into building a presence in the Commonwealth, risking hundreds of lives and numerous technological assets...What the fuck is the point? The whole world went to shit over 200 years ago and there's about a million other things anywhere else at any given time that could easily hurt a lot of people more than some ambiguous scientific group with a defunct FEV program and 3D printers that make people.

Why go so far out of your way to pick a fight with an enemy you know absolutely nothing about? It's costly, reckless and wasteful...

Not saying their intentions aren't good, but the way they go about it is all kinds of messed up. From a tactical standpoint, the Brotherhood in 4 is pants-on-head retarded.

>>385311978
>FO3: Gallant white knight heroes of the wasteland but really they're just in it for themselves

Why do angry people always forget, the Brotherhood Outcasts? The Outcasts are the True Brotherhood in DC. Lyon's contingent is composed of people loyal to and/or raised by a renegade leader.

>FO3: Military assholes in an old Army R&D base

>>385310385
I like FOT (the old pc version), and I like the BOS in that one.

>>385318179
Cause as fair as I know the Brotherhood outcasts have little to no impact on the wastes, assuming they don't just get wiped out/fade away eventually.

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>>385310385
Because their end goal is preserve technology, keep it out of hands of idiots, and ensure humanities survival verse mutants, monsters and themselves. They have structure, order and base their decisions off logic, not emotion or liberal dreamer ideology that hauls in the death of factions.

>>385319980
They reintegrated when Maxon came into power for what it's worth. It's why some of the BoS power armor in 4 has their red and black color scheme, like Dance's armor for example.

>>385320406
Huh, never got far into 4 before getting bored, so I never learned much lore wise. So basically they existed for a few decades, interacted with almost no one, and then went back into the fold?

>>385310385
I unironically love the take on the BoS in Fallout 4. They need to be more xenophobic though. You could tell their hatred for the synths and all but it wasn't very genuine. I think they deserve to be a powerful faction in the game but they shouldn't be able to hold much land as they don't have as large a force as ncr or legion. In Fallout 4 it's assumed that they have taken DC to Boston which is just absurd.

there should be the ability to fug Veronica. Maybe there is, I don't know.

>>385320558
More or less. Maxon threw out everything Lyons was trying to do because it was leading nowhere and went back to focusing on hoarding harmful tech like the brotherhood always has and he extended an olive branch to the Outcasts and they rejoined. They still recruit wastelanders though.

>>385320680
I mean, they have some pretty fucking advanced kit. Not to mention they could have recruited some.

>>385320558
Beth tried to make Maxon a iron fisted classic BoS leader unlike Lyons. The outcasts literally join the BoS right after Fallout 3 events. A bunch of the white knight BoS people leave the faction though

>>385319468
>(the old pc version)
As opposed to what?

>>385320384
If anything the BoS take influence from the Adeptus Mechanicus, who are consistently potrayed as backwards, hypocritical and have a significant part in keeping the Imperium a shitty dystopia. And They're the best Imperium faction because that has yet to be Flanderisied out of them by GW or the Fans.

>>385317454
They see synths as undetectable enemy infiltrators out to undermine society, and consider that even more dangerous to mankind than nukes.

>>385320680
I never really got the impression that they have taken everything from DC to Boston, at most with their numbers I'd assume they at least have a tight enough hold on DC to be able to spare troops to hunt the Institute. Another theory people keep trying to say is that Maxson is actually only leading the Outcasts who hijacked the Prydwen and are leaving the East to report what's happened to the Elders in the West.

Personally I think he did take control after some shady shit happened to Sarah, mostly because she has a single line about her dieing in the field, rolled back some of the more "radical" policies of Lyons to reintegrate the Outcasts and depending on how Bethesda plays this is either going to carve out a new stronghold in case shit goes full fubar for the West coast BoS or is going back to pull a King Arthur which they have already set his character up to be.

>>385316338
>Cleanse commonwealth
WE WUZ T9000 AND SHEET

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>>385321357
>considers organic robot people the new nuke
>seizes TWO nuclear stockpiles throughout the course of 4, steals a nuclear reactor so he can stomp around with a giant meme-spouting robot that throws nukes like footballs

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>>385317454
>A group has perfect infiltrators that can replace key personnel in any faction within the area
>These aren't just things they scavenge but actively make
>They're technology is advanced enough to make nuclear reactors
>Totally not something the BoS would have an issue with
The only stupid thing is they nuked the facility instead of taking control of it for three reasons. One being it is near impossible to assault making it a far better stronghold than any base above ground, two the Institute has detailed records on their synths making it easier to completely exterminate them and three the tech withing the facility would be a huge edge the BoS could use to protect themselves and better execute their mission.

Then again the best Bethesda can do is make their villains moustache twirling tier constantly doing stupid things.

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>>385317454
The BoS sees synths as the ultimate threat to humanity because they're robots you can't discriminate against easily; you can't point them out in a crowd. Since they're worried about synths being able to build themselves eventually and then infiltrate and eventually replace humanity it is the kind of problem that you have to nip in the bud.

This is disregarding the fact that the BoS is already being infiltrated by synths (Paladin Danse); the Brotherhood was likely tipped off in the first place by discovering synths in their own ranks (Elder Lyons and his fucking open door recruitment policy). This was likely seen as an attack by The Institute, so if nothing else the invasion of The Commonwealth was necessitated by self-preservation.

Also forget that the Brotherhood has always, traditionally, gone in balls to the wall against enemies they barely understand the second they see them as a threat to humanity or themselves and their ideals (see Fallout 1 and the Super Mutants, Fallout 2/The NCR, Fallout 3/The Enclave). This has cost the BoS more than once; they've ALWAYS been this stupid.

>>385321846
They've never been against using tech, it's kinda their whole thing they seize it and use it because they're the only ones responsible enough to do so in their eyes. Especially now that they are in a precarious situation with the NCR back west.

>>385321963
I've said that about the railroad as well. The brotherhood blows a big hole into the institute, they just hijack the teleporter, so no one should know where they are. Considering its a lot more comfortable then that shitty catacombs (that's location was literally compromised) they're fucking retards for not using it.

>>385310385
you are not supposed to like them, and that is one of the important parts they play in fallout.
Except, of course, in bethesda's opinion.

>>385310385
Literal retards

>>385312369
Yep.

Compared to other BoS factions, Mid-West Brotherhood are actually nice to both humans (and mutants), actually recruit people (including said mutants), and get shit done.

>>385320406
>like Dance's armor for example.
>Dance
https://youtu.be/V5r-LgHUjJU?t=66

>Minutemen are the "good" guys
>Institute are "bad" guys
>BoS and Railroad are good/bad depending on how you look at it
>I'm supposed to give a fuck about RR and MM when they endorse blowing up a fucking airship full of people on it
>B-b-but the BoS is evil cause they don't give the evacuation order for the Institute :(((((

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>>385326028
>Mfw you can keep the MM, RR and BoS alive
>It's not through actual diplomacy and bringing them together but through doing shit in a very specific manner

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daily reminder that the brotherhood were actually the bad guys in fallout 3