daily reminder that pokemon is dead last good game was hg/ss

RS killed Pokemon, BW1 killed New-Pokemon, ORAS killed Neo-Pokemon, and 新-Pokemon still goes on

It's the 3D models for me, they take a lot of charm out of the games. I didn't like colosseum 1 and 2 either even as a kid

Go back to your containment board

>>385297489
this
i always thought those 3D pokemon games looked really weird and unnatural

>>385297120

The last good game was Emerald And its 3DS remake. Gen 4 and 5 were the slowest and most linear games in the series.

>>385297489

The Genius Sonority games really can't be comoared to Gen VI. The biggest problem with Colosseum and Battle Revolution was the maddening slow speed in battles and removing basic things like items from battles. Gen VI not only had all the mechanics expected being a main series Pokemon game, but they actually managed to make combat and movement faster than Gen V, despite full 3D graphics. Trying to play Gen V, you were battling the slow as combat more than the Pokemon itself.

>>385297698
this isn't podracing

>>385297120
BW2 was my favorite pokemon game and took me completely by surprise. Too bad that got my hopes up that they were going to make good games against because XY was the most disappointing thing since the star wars prequels.

>mad dragonfag
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

WHERE'S YOUR OUTRAGE NOW??

>>385297120
>Bawwww I can't curbstomp everything with dragons, Pokemon is dead

>>385297120
>last good game was hg/ss
>what is B2/W2
yikes. OP is really proving to be a fag today.

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Fairy is such a joke, jesus fuck.
I'm glad I saved this post a while back:

>Fairy directly buffs steel offensively and defensively
>fairy kicks fighting types out of higher tiers
>steel effectively loses one of its weaknesses because fighting types are gone
>fairy checks dark types
>one of the types that could hit steel for neutral is now more scarce because of fairy.
>in-spite of fairy being weak to steel, its still one of the most dominant types, after water and steel, flying and ground
nice balance attempt gf

Not to mention it makes terrible types like bug even worse. What the fuck were they thinking?

>>385298102
>playing competitive Pokemon
You need to be 18 years or older to post on this site.

>>385298102
I never looked up the typing
I always though Fairy was supposed to kill Dragon as the god tier type for meta

that sounds like shit though

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>>385298102
No one plays Pokemon competitively. Just pick your favorites and have a go at it.

>>385298063
>the B2/W2 is best meme
when will you stop

>>385298102
Pokemon needed a jab in the arm, for better or for worse

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>>385298187
Come on anon, it's fun!
There's so much variety and interesting playstyles!

PMD > mainline

>>385298338
There's actually some really nice online programs for building pokemon builds and fighting each other. Animated and everything.
I used to play them back in college since it didn't take much focus during larger lectures if they were boring or attendance lectures

>>385298343
>is best
Where did I say that? When will you develop some reading comprehension?

>>385298359
>Top1
Winner would be misleading I guess, it's Pokemon.

>>385298359
Glad to see Gyrados is still kicking ass
Not glad to see an average of 4 new mons on each team

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>>385298343
When Black2 stops being the best game in the series.
Which is never.

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Is my bro Tier 1 yet?

>>385298102
Fairy is so hackjobbed, it's obviously designed to try and balance the types better but I'd rather have them make a type that actually makes sense. Why would fairies be immune to dragon and why would fire resist fairies?

>>385298343
>>385298416
anon irreversibly BTFO

>>385298604
>Still no type to balance out steel

Awful

>>385298334
Dragon is not super amazing like some people think it is. On paper, it has a wide range of resistances, to water, fire, electric, and grass, which are all very popular types. But in reality it is very rare for a single pokemon to have moves of two or more of these types - the only common pairing being water/electric, for which the pokemon can probably just use a super effective ice move instead.

>>385297120
it is, and that's true, but that's the furthest thing from the reason why
fairy was a misguided but well-intentioned attempt to actually shake the core gameplay up in a way that didn't just revolve around features that would arbitrarily be added or removed later
while it ultimately failed at everything it set out to do and deserves some criticism for that, it's still ironically one of the least bad major changes pokémon has introduced since hgss and anyone who focuses on it specifically is probably not old enough to post on this board

the biggest reason pokémon is dead is the aforementioned revolving door of features
the second biggest reason is the emphasis on spectacle that has been applied to make up for this lack of features
the third biggest reason is their attempt to appeal to mobile audiences at the cost of their old fanbase
and the fourth biggest reason is the fanbase for sperging out over gen six and thus convincing them that gen five was the way they needed to take the series, resulting in the abomination that was gen seven

>>385298343

In about 5 years when the majority of posters on 4chan aren't people who started with Gen V. In a few years, people will be saying Gen VI was the best. Then 5 years later, Gen VII. And so on and so forth.

>>385298957
Gen VI was ultimately the same shit as Gen V, VII just finally took it a step further

also they don't cut core battle mechanics, or at least, they didn't until Gen VII gutted triples and rotations

how did anime introduce the fairy type? did some pokemon professor come to Ash and go like "uhhh yeah so there's actually a fairy type pokemon, i have no idea how you didn't encounter it for 20 seasons"

>>385299064
if the time comes when people will praise gen VI games as the best i'll know when to off myself

>>385299064
>y-you can't like the newer games!!!
>m-m-my broken g-gen1 games are b-best!!!111!!
kill yourself, shitter. Emerald, Platinum, HG/SS, and B2/W2 are objectively the best games in the series. Honorable mention to Crystal.

>>385297120
To be fair HG and SS were the best in the series. I don't get why the made fairy though.

>>385300074

Learn to quote people.

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>>385299649
>i have no idea how you didn't encounter it for 20 seasons

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>>385300074

>they're making a core RPG for Switch

guess I'll miss a core game for the first time since 1996

>>385300174
>newfag doesn't know how greentexting works

>>385300228
they were considered normal type no? how did they explain the sudden change in types? "uh lol it's actually a fairy not normal"? i'm serious here man

>>385297696
>V
>slowest

>>385300329
the anime is designed for 8 year olds who will never watch older seasons so they don't have to explain shit

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Nah senpai, last good pokemon game was gen 1 bro. All these stupid new types and pokemon designs, I mean come on, they don't even make any sense and they're running out of ideas.

>>385300079
An attempt to balance the game from overpowered dragons.

>Ice types are still shit and their only resistance is other ice types.

why?

>>385300289

Greentexting is not ignoring a persons argument and putting words into their mouth. He didn't mention Gen 1 at all nor did he say you can't like new games. You're attributing someone elses stupid argument to someone who didn't even hint at those things.

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>not giving up on GF and playing sage instead now that 2.0 is out

http://capx.wikia.com/wiki/Demo

there's no such thing as a balanced JRPG. Prove me wrong

>>385300415
It worked, for the most part. Less outrage spam now. Poison and Steel buff is also welcome. BUT WHY DID THEY NERF DARK AND BUG

>>385300276
>implying you won't get sucked it again
I've been there

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>>385299961
I doubt that will happen. At best, the praise will be finally introducing trainer customization and maybe fairy type. Gen VI is incredibly weak since they didn't make a second iteration of the base games (Like Plat or B2W2 for example) and left it bare bones in their rush to push out Gen VII which has also started weak, but they're going to get Ultra versions so who knows how those will play out.

>>385297832
it feels like the first blotched pokemon game since fps drops are still insane. not only did they cut 3d (3d) from the games but the fpa dips to 10 during certain battles. theres nothing more immersion breaking

>>385297930
xy felt so fucking vapid

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>>385300471
Also sage doesn't have fairy type

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>>385300370
hehe good bait :D

>>385300453
>a persons argument
he never had one to begin with

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>>385300480
>gen 6 nerfed my favourite into the ground
At-at least he's still good in UU

>>385300480
I'm definitely not buying a Switch just for Pokemon. But Ishihara said it could be as late as 2019. If by then there is a Smash, Animal Crossing, Mario Kart and Pokemon for the Switch I'll get it, plus I wouldn't have to wait long for it to be cracked

>>385300484
>>385300498
>>385299961
gen 6 is far from the best but I do think it gets too much shit. It added a lot of neat little things and quality of life stuff.

If Z existed, and it improved as much Platnium did for DP, then I could have easily seen Z being the best pokemon game easily.

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>>385300568
>not getting a switch for Pokken

What are you, a casual?

where can I find a good list of rom hacks?

>>385300513
Those designs are fucking awful, who made this shit? Only like 3 lines are cool

>>385300523
satire != bait

>>385300567
>his 3D model sucks as well
WHAT DID WE DO TO DESERVE THIS

>>385297489
Eelektross looks so cool in BW and so goofy in 3D. I hate it.

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>>385300513
are you fucking kidding me

>>385300329
Literally, and no shit, parallel universes.
Gen 6 and onward is set in a new universe where Mega-Evolution exists, and so on.
Gens 1-5 all take place in their own universe where, among other things, Megas, Fairies, Z-Moves, and more just don't exist.

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>>385300731
>cool
??? He looks just as goofy

Look at that cute ass jump from the small ass fins

His 3D model is an improvement in every way imo. He looks like an eel with levitate now

>>385298102
>Fairies start ripping competitive a new one
>Steel starts gaining mass relevance to fight them
>Smogon bans the steel types because Steel is becoming an obtuse offensive presence while ignoring why they are in the first place

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>>385300787
how the FUCK do you explain parallel universes to a 8 year old?

Gen 3 best gen because it added motherfucking aggron

>>385300731
Eelektross is a debatable one.
Look what they did to Haxorus.

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>>385300881
>>385300731
And 3D in comparison

>>385300787
actually it's just infinite universes for every possible variable, inclduing that one time little jimmy in idaho beat silver version with six snubbuls

that's how P2P trading and battling and multiples of certain legends on one save file works

>>385300926
>not gen 2 cause it added motherfucking tyranitar

>>385300907
There is another world that is like ours but not.

>>385300965
Looks like a perfect cocksleeve

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>>385300926
>>385300982
not gen 1 cause of CHARI-MOTHERFUCKIN'-ZARD

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>>385300950
and poor hydreigon
They need to fix the washed out colours

>>385300907
Honestly, you don't.
The parallel universe shit is mostly only for the oldfag manchildren who would ask about why people didn't realize Fighting moves weren't actually dealing double damage to Clefable, but in fact half damage.
It's in suggestions and hints from weird characters like Zinnia who are obnoxiously cryptic with everything they say. Kids turned off their brains way before Zinnia got to parallel universes.

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>>385301053
>not gen 7 because of mothefucking Golisopod
PLEBS ALL OF YOU

>>385301032
>leech
>cocksleeve
:(

>>385300965
BW eel looks like it's about to wreck your shit, that one looks like it's about to be taken by the current.

No it isn't dead

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>>385301053
>>385300982
Fite Me

>>385300571
it removed too much though. i can forgive 3d graphics being terrible and aging so poorly but theres just no charm and a very rushed feeling. dp actually were decent depending how you played them. there was a large focus on multiplayer which is probably why i enjoyed it a lot more than most other people

>>385300894
smogon is shit. you can safely ignore it if you wish

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Gen 3 was the peak of competitive Pokemon.

>>385301161
>Wen you nut, but she don't stop sukkin'

>>385301176
>wreck your shit
More like ready to perform a dance routine to kids

>>385300329
XY merely says the type was newly discovered, like Dark and Steel were in GS, any "timeline" shenanigans ORAS or SM bring up were not part of XY

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>>385300754
It's old art, it'll be updated

see: how shitty rocano and slatic used to look compared to the new art

>>385301161
It can leech the semen from my dick

>>385301161
>he doesn't like a little sting on his Willy
That's really sad

>>385301235
>before the split
This is a joke right???

>>385298836
It was only ever good because most Dragon Pokemon had very high base stats, good base distribution, good abiliti, good moves. See Salamence, Dragonite, Garchomp. With Fairy type being broken, only Garchomp really remains as S tier, and that's only because Stab EQ is so powerful.

>>385301198
Smogon PU, NU, and RU (FU is looking good, too) are great.
Stay away from the shit tiers, and there's almost nothing wrong with it, and it lets you use shitmons in peace.

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>>385301146
are you ACTUALLY LITERALLY IMPLYING that that fucking SHREDDER clone from TMNT could kill C H A R I Z A R D?

>>385301235
>no phys/spec split
Gen 4 made a lot more pokemon more fun to use.

Also, competitive Pokemon is only really fun on the middle of the ladder where you can experiment with teams and sets.

>>385300648
/vp/

>>385301327
Zygarde is competing with it now, 'cause Thousand Arrows is the shit.

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>>385301185
ez match man

>>385301364
You know, I never really hated gen 1, I like a lot of the Pokemon from there, and it definately has the best map design, but now that I look at Charizard, it really does look a bit lame. What's with the fat belly and short limbs?

>>385301364
>water/bug
Yes

>>385301462
You shoot a flamethrower at a train, guess what happens?

Choo choo mofugga

>>385297120
B2W2 were the best pokemon games to date. HGSS suffered from the single worst leveling progression in the franchise and the entire Kanto part of the game was the same trash that was in gen 2 with no improvements. What's the point of having 2 regions in 1 game if one of them is lazy, unpolished garbage?

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>>385301483
Charizard Mega Y looks better imo

I also like X unironically

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>>385301235
nah, gen 4 is the absolute best. gen 5 is the next best, then 3, then 2, then the rest of the absolutely broken irredeemable gens for competitive.

>>385301576
Looks like a OC from deviantart

>>385297120
Pokémon Black 2 and White 2 were the pinnacle of the series

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>people seriously debating competitiveness of a childrens game

>>385300443
Being as charitable as possible, they might envision Ice as a "glass cannon" type that's a defensive liability, but give Pokemon that carry it a very good STAB. You get that by working backwards, because Ice is a fucking terrible defensive type, but Ice moves are pretty good.
This would obviously be really fucking misguided, since Ice is resisted by too many things to be threatening on its own, you still wouldn't have to be Ice type to use Ice attacks if it were, and a good STAB isn't enough to make up for bad defensive typing. The only other likely possibility I see, though, is that nobody working on these games cares enough about balance to address this blatantly shit type.

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>>385301576
I actually think many of the megas improved on the base designed with some exceptions (sharpedo and Aerodactyl come to mind

>>385301426
No one cares about Smogon.

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What kills me about the latest pokemon games is that I feel like I've been playing beta tests. Gen 6 was fucking disgusting in a visual sense, on top of things like "Street's blacked out, nobody can go through" with lights still on and people walking by. The insulting levels nostalgia pandering Kalos had felt like it was supposed to blanket these facts. As long as people can use their charizards and gen 1 bait in the main game, they don't care how awful everything else is. Gen 3 remakes also were a slap in the face to me as a gen 3 fag. Gyms were made easier than they were in the already easy R/S. Nothing from emerald made it in, unlike crystal. I couldn't use an Aron unless I backtracked from getting the bike to get an extremely underleveled one which I would then have to grind up, again with the visuals, it looked like ass taking the already shoddy gen 6 engine and putting areas designed for 2D space in leaves you with weird boxes of grass.

Gen 7 was a bit better in regard to the visuals and polish, but the framerate absolutely tanked when a second pokemon showed up. And perhaps they went a bit overboard on showing that they could do graphix and put in Lillie's reaction to everything every 5 minutes.

>>385297120

Black and white 2 was the last good pokemon game and the best.

Since it went full 3d it's turned into shit.

>>385301618
To be fair so did charizard
>LOOK AT MY NEW OC
>I RECOLOURED A DRAGON AND STUCK A FIRE AT THE TAIL
>rawr :3

>>385301707
How to fix ice
>attacks now neutral to water
>resists water
>resists flying
And done

>>385301576
If it ditched the wrist wings it would be fine.

>>385301569
Kanto was fine for what it was supposed to be, a quick nostalgia grab in post game that somewhat tried to make you feel powerful, and then give you a climatic final battle with Red. It was thrown in back then by GameFreak because they could, after Iwata helped them clean up the code, it was never meant to be a second game or whatever.

I agree that they could have done something with it in the remakes, but I am fine with the way it is. The regular game is good enough, and you can completely ignore post game Kanto if you want. It is not to the game's detriment.
Also, the level progression meme is blown out of proportion entirely, you are a bit underleveled when hitting the last gym, but that is it. Don't like a challenge, chump?

That being said, I haven't played BW2 yet, I skipped out on gen 5 and only played BW1 a few months ago.

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>>385301724
Yeah I don't know why megas get so much flack. They seem to be natural powered-up version of the original pokemon

>>385301786
>Gen VII
>visuals and polish

literally broke the cel-shading and removed day/night shading on character models in battle

>>385300648
>only like 3 lines
>implying

like 1/3 of it are just as good or better then official pokemon, 1/2 of it are pretty good, and only like 20% of it is actually eh to bad

>>385301493
>bug
fire fucks bug man

>>385301825
>>385301707
>>385300443
>Make Bug SE on and resist fairy, neutral on ghost and poison
>make ice resist fairy, water, ground, and dragon
>make rock ressist ground, electric
>make electric neutral or SE on steel
>make fairy neutral, not SE against fighting

would this fix everything without nerfing or buffing anything too hard directly/indirectly? Worried this might make ice too good

>>385301931
>Don't like a challenge, chump?
>challenge
>pokemon games
Yeah, bro. That's why I am saying the level progression part that goes against the progression ideas applied to all the rest of the franchise and the rest of the same game too is complete shit. Because I can't beat it.

>>385302002
>what are opinions
2/3 are eh to bad to me

>>385297957
Every fucking time.
Fairy fucked other types more than it fucked Dragon.

>>385302086
>fire
water fucks fire man

>>385302091
Ice is now too good. Remember many ice types are dual water as well. Ice also already resists water. Remove dragon resist and it should be a okay

Electric is already neutral to steel

Rock should not resist ground but be neutral to it.

Bug buffs and fairy nerfs should be fine

Also let me add something: Fairy takes neutral dark damage

>>385301983
I forgot about in battle trainers. I was thinking more of the overworld because of how much I hated gen 6s style.

>>385301597
>2
>not the worst when it comes to competitive
Are you a masochist, anon?

>>385302121
Exactly, you can easily beat Clair, so what is your problem?

>>385302258
Shit we need to buff grass as well
>does neutral damage to ghost and itself
Well that was easy

>>385301176
>BW eel looks like it's about to wreck your shit
BW eel looks like shit because BW's sprites use shit-tier sprite tweening instead of proper animation frames.

>>385302356
>Rest does not fail on Sleep Talk
Holy canoly.

>>385301825
Water should be weak to ice. Water is currently a good offensive and defensive type, it would be interesting to see what that switch-up would do.

Also, fairy should be weak to normal, just for the sake of it.

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>>385301235
>competitive Pokemon

>>385302530
>>Rest does not fail on Sleep Talk
That's not even the worst thing.
The meta is so centralized around Snorlax it's ridiculous. You pretty much need to use a Snorlax.

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>>385302638
>Rest does not fail on Sleep Talk when Snorlax uses it

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>>385301549
uhhh it explodes?

>>385301354
yeah but at that point its just fun tier. ill play random tiers but once we get into ou and uber or whatever its called

HGSS was good but the levels in Johto still weren't high enough. Pokemon following you was a neat addition, but because the sprites obviously weren't to scale, many of them just looked silly.
BW and BW2 felt fresher and a more fun to play

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>>385298359
>Porygon2 instead of Porygon Z
Explain

>>385304204
you give it some item and use only tribeam. it has better tank stats iirc

>>385302091
>Bug neutral on Poison
I think Poison is the wrong type to take away from. Fire can stand to take neutral hits from Bug, IMO, and gets to keep it SE against Bug to preserve whatever reasoning was behind that interaction in the first place.

>All those Ice resistances
Might be reaching a little too far. I might just start with Ground and Water. In light of the Bug suggestions, Ice resisting Fairy as well might be going a little too hard on Fairy.

>Rock resistant to Ground and Electric
I'd argue that Rock would be better served losing one or two vulnerabilities than gaining two resistances, especially at cost to under-served types like Electric. I'd say neutral on Fighting, and resistant to Ground (since Ground can stand to be taken down a peg). I'd also consider losing the resistance to Poison if it's gaining resistance to Ground.

>Electric SE on Steel
I've always liked this idea. It's already Neutral, but I think making SE would make for a good shake-up.

>Fairy neutral vs Fighting
This is probably fine.

>>385302403
It already does neutral damage to Ghost. I think I'd give Grass neutral damage vs Grass or (and?) Steel. Grass moves tend to have a lot of utility, so it probably makes sense to have the resisting types outweigh the vulnerable ones. Also, I'd drop one vulnerability on the defensive side -- probably Flying. Not earthshattering, but gives you one less thing to worry about.

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>>385298359
>VGC instead of Smogon

>>385304204
eviolite makes it bulkier

>>385301946
Good idea, poor implementation.

I kinda want what will happen if Aerodactyl or Mawile can evolve instead of relying on the very limited Mega gimmick especially considering people will most likely run people like Mega Garde or Mega Starter anyway

>>385304204
>Eviolite
>If held by a Pokémon that is not fully evolved, raises its Defense and Special Defense by 50%.

>>385304324
>>385304290
>>385304253
>Eviolite
I'm clearly outdated; isn't that Chansey's gimmick?

>>385301946
it's like gen4's idea of giving evolution to mons that started to lag behind in power, except worse in every single way because megas are only given to fan favorite mons making some of them outright broken (Lucario, Gengar, Rayquaza) while garbagemons continue to be garbage

>>385304459
works on any mon who already has already decent enough defense
magneton is also another popular candidate for eviolite

>/v/ tries to talk pokemon and looks dumb as hell in the process
Tale as old as time.

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>>385304204
They have different stat spreads. Porygon2 is bulky (both Def and Sp. Def) with decent Special Attack. Porygon-Z trades the bulk for more Special Attack and Speed, but there are a lot of better Pokemon with around that much Special Attack, more Speed, and better types. What's more, Porygon2's bulk is accentuated by the fact that it can use Eviolite, since it isn't fully evolved. It's a rare combination that makes it more useful than Z.

>>385300907
something something half-A presses

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>>385304315
>poor
You don't be talkin shit about megas

>>385304461
Except that's wrong. Pidgeot, Sceptile, Sharpedo, beedrill and gallade all become viable with their megas

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>>385304849
>>385304461
Also Gardevior shot up in viability after the mega too. Finally, how can I forget how good charizard is now thanks to the megas?

Many garbagemons got significant boosts. Sadly many didn't as well. Oh well, almost exactly like the Gen 4 evolutions

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>>385304712
>implying I look dumb

>>385305254
>poke'mon
Someone post the comic

>>385304258
Isn't fighting already not a great type though? Wouldn't losing fighting being SE on rock on it be bad?

>>385305309
Fighting is a great type wtf, especially after talonflame nerf

>>385305309
fighting is one of the best types offensively defensively it got cucked last gen by bravest bird and fairy

>>385305498
Right, that's what I mean, didn't fairy fuck it over

>>385297120
If you think the last good pokemon game was a remake then you are part of the problem.

>>385305964
Well, HG/SS was the best of both worlds: a map design that was more open and less focused on telling an over-the-top anime story, with the move variety and gameplay mechanics of the newer games. That's why it is such a great remake.

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>>385305964

USuM has pwt and dimensions tho so it's the best

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Daily reminder that Drayano's Sacred Gold/Storm Silver romhack for HG/SS is the definitive pokeyman experience, and you're doing a disservice to yourself if you haven't played it

>>385297120
HGSS was shit. Hell GSC almost killed Pokemon to begin with because of how shit and directionless it's gen as a whole was.

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I'm going to get Ultra SuMo through Freeshop because I'm a kike

>>385306283
>GSC almost killed Pokemon to begin with
Are you really implying that a mainline pokemon game didn't make dumb amounts of money? Has that ever actually happened?

>directionless
It was clearly intended to be a sequel/extension to Red&Blue, and it did more than an adequate job at being exactly that

>>385302198
Dark really didnt need to be weak to fairy too.
Mah boi scrafty didn't come out of gen 6 too well.

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>>385297120
What other debacles match "he thinks fairy type is real" and "wottergate" in hilarity?

>>385306047
That map was the one of the reasons why the level scaling was so bad also don't forget about the lack of Pokemon variety which still wasn't fixed in the remake.
As for the story, while it didn't have an "over-the-top anime story" it did force you into facing the legends without a real reason beyond "hey kid, you're the chosen one". Without that story it creates a disconnect.
Move variety applies to just about every new game.
And the gameplay mechanics were just basic gen 4.

It's nothing special.

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>>385306713
Primarina was somewhat similar, though not as grand in its scale.

>>385297120 (You)

>>385306524
>Are you really implying that a mainline pokemon game didn't make dumb amounts of money? Has that ever actually happened?
Of course it made money but it was still riding on the wave of Gen 1's pokemania. On their own merits the game and anime were hit hard by bad sequel syndrome on top of the initial delays and filler hell respectively which were the two main causes of Pokemania hitting a wall instead of petering out.

>It was clearly intended to be a sequel/extension to Red&Blue
The fact that you have to say both sequel and extension just goes to show the lack of direction because the game itself can't decide on if it wants to be one or the other seeing as the barebones story suggests sequel but the gameplay and pokemon distribution suggests expansion. Not to mention that it removed content like the Safari Zone and added the incessant calls.

>>385307080
>sequel can't expand a game
Gen I is literally, as in literally, a mental disease.

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Why do people keep fellating the Johto remakes when they didn't bother to fix anything? Gen V, specifically B/W, was the last perfect game we got.

>>385306713

The summer of leaks was pretty great.

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>>385297489

>>385298578
Still so pissed pokemon wasn't launched with his mega stone since the change to mega evolve made him really good.

>>385304827
>Playing Pokemon Red
>Hit a missingno.
>Suddenly Fairy types exist too

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>>385300648
ey fuq u mang
I made a few of the sprites ages back,
I should go see how far along the game is at some point

>>385307182
You do realise a sequel and expansion are two completely different things right?

I wish the game still had 2D sprites. I think many of the models look really bad.

>>385307463
>that platinum
this reminds me. the game is capped at 30 fps
someone somehow managed to make a rom that runs at 60 fps
>battle intro is around 2 seconds
>running shoes as fast as bike
>game actually runs at a normal speed instead of being a slow mess

>>385308102

I really never understood the "slowness" complaint that plagues Gen IV discussion. It's a more chill, laid-back region like the actual Hokkaido so it fit. Plus, the HP scroll made for some surprisingly dramatic moments.

>>385307350
Cascoon and silcoon models are literally just oval shape

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>>385308102
what is this gen IV is slow shit i've been hearing?

As long as Gen 1 and 2 aren't your favourite, you have at the very least okay taste.

>>385308617

From what I can gather there are about 5 or so recurring, pervasive memes in the Pokemon community at large on /v/:

>Gen II and/or HG/SS are the best games
>Gen IV was too slow
>Emerald was great
>B2/W2 was the best game
>Gen V has the worst starters

Either people didn't actually play them or they're going off of old memory.

>>385308937
>Gen IV was too slow
>Gen V has the worst starters

How are these not true? Gen 4 games chug in certain parts of the overworld and has unnecessarily slow animations in battles, and Gen 5's starters are all mediocre, consisting of 2 boring mono-types and a third fire/fighting in a row

>>385301324
>>385301374
this is why people like gen 3 now, there's no reason to play gen 4 or 5 when they're just inferior gen 7's. Gen 3 is unique compared to current gens but advanced enough to not be a drag to play like gen 1 and 2.

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>>385308937
>implying emerald wasn't great

>>385309364
>kid me was so amazed during Rayquaza cutscene

Also in platinum. The whole anti dimension level is some amazing tech to ignorant high school me

>>385309165

Aren't Johto's the objectively worst though because of literally no moves and meh designs?

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>>385304285
vgc actually allows you to call yourself titles like regional champion and let you earn money by winning. What does being good at smogon singles let you do, suck Omfuga's dick?

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>>385309507
jesus christ how dense are you man

>>385300513
Some of them are pretty dece but then others suffer from that basic shape design (barracute/bazilisk) and others look like existing pokemon (warquila)

Fairy type is cool
I love you Sylveon and Moonblast

>>385310108
I sure love being a gay faggot

>>385301931
The level progression is absolutely shitty though. You literally fight trainers with pokemon below level 20 in the same same town as the seventh fucking gym.

Even Gen VI was better in that regard, and that's just sad.

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>>385310541
>being so insecure pink somehow is linked to gays
Don't be so tsundere anon kun

>>385297832
You mean IV. V was the fastest 2D gen.

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>Gen 4 isn't that sl-

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>>385313997
>using blissey as an example