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Dragonball Fighterz is going to be shit and there’s nothing you can do about it.
>only one assist per character while mvc2 and mvc3 came with 3
>homing dash and teleport mechanic homogenizes the cast and forces every character integrated into the game to come with flight. This means no Kid Goku, Roshi, Tao, or weaker characters like pretty much every female that isn’t 18. Whereas the MvC series had unorthodox “non” fighters like Frank West and Phoenix Wright
>Power levels actually matter so you can kiss the chances of humans ever being top tier in this game goodbye. Every team is going to have Beerus in them and the teams will be built around Beerus, he will be this game’s sentinel.
>Homing Dash removes complex movement and spacing since everyone will just spam it, and occasionally a divekick for mixup. No triangle dash like magneto
>Is a slave to the source material and just coypastas moves from the manga without just adding moves that characters haven’t used but make sense for the character thereby severely limiting roster choices. ChiChi in Super DBZ didn’t use most of the items given to her but it still makes sense for her character. So you’re going to be stuck with standard picks and no oddball choices because of that.
>ki blasts are literally useless and just take up valuable button space
>charge mechanic because le source material even though it’s also useless
>everyone just has stock beam supers. There’s literally no difference between Final Flash, Father son Kamehameha, and Solar Kamehameha other than the name, although they do look aesthetic
>no dp inputs to be found even though people criticize MvCI for that same reason, but at least Ryu and I think Frank West have them
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Why do you sound so angry?
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>>385276457
>Everyone plays the same minus Frieza and Majin Buu. Every combo is started with wall bounce or teleport into dragon rush followed up by simple combos and ending with a super.
>autocombos even being in the game
>no grabs at all but a shitty mechanic like dragon rush is implemented instead
>Is going to launch with 20 characters max, likely below that, and you can expect yearly rereleases that fractures the fanbase in typical arc sys fashion
>If they don’t go with the above it’ll be a broken mess like their other licensed anime ips HnK and Sengoku Basura
tl;dr this game is going to suck and people hoping it revives the dire state of fighting games are delusional.
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>>385276457
0.01th of a cent has been deposited into your account via the makers of the world's GREATEST fighting game franchise MvC (Infinite in stores soon)!!!
Pre-order today and thank you for your service.
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>>385276457
Why do you know so much about a game you supposedly aren't looking forward to?
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>>385276550
b-but it's only 20% complete
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>>385276531
but I'm not
>>385276816
thanks doc
>>385277259
I was looking forward to it, but after seeing gameplay footage on evo I'm not.
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>>385276457
>homogenizes the cast
stopped here, but maybe I should've at the first point which was literally "3 > 2"
it's a dbz game buddy, the characters were always gonna be homogenous
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>>385277825
You sound like a butthurt fanboy desu senpai. Highly suggest killing yourself.
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>>385277938
That makes the franchise a shit series to make a fighting game out of then. Also that doesn't jive with the director's philosophy which was to go for unique characters, since she said unique playstyles matter. Dragon rush and the teleport mechanic severely constrain roster choices.
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>>385276457
I got to play it a bit at EVO finally and, unfortunately, a lot of this post is true. Although the marketing has been putting focus on it as a deep fighting game, a lot of people, myself included, are going to be disappointed by how shallow it is.
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>>385276457
>Power levels actually matter
This has been ruining DBZ fighting games since forever.
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>>385276550
>no grabs
Here I am taking your bait, I chuckled at this.
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>>385279135
Is it playable with a controller?
I'm interested but fighting games are usually shitty without an arcade stick.
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>>385279135
This really should've been a Naruto based fighter. I really have no idea who thought it was a good thing to base it off of DBZ.
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>Reminder this is a capfag thread, so if you're a DBZ fan you may as well x out now.
>only 51 more days until the beta
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>>385279345
lol
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>>385278887
no need to be so rude
>>385279150
Krillin was pretty good in Super DBZ, but I knew once the director actually said that I knew this game was heading in the wrong direction. Someone literally asking if powerlevels matter like Yamcha being able to beat Goku, seemed like such a retarded question in hindsight but yeah this is being a slave to the source material. The Marvel series never gave no fucks about powerlevels, you got street levelers fighting gods and that's what made it great.
>>385279217
Why is that bad. They're good for mixups, especially once we get the inevitable grappler like Broly.
>>385279252
It should be arc sys are really going for the casual audience.
>>385279345
Most shounen series not DBZ would have been a better fighter, but DBZ was chosen 100 percent for brand recognition instead.
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>>385278976
I disagree on the Dragon Rush. That's the universal "throw" move, but that doesn't rule out command grabs or even hit grabs.
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>>385280124
meant to say homing dash not dragon rush.
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I'm 100% down for the game, but it's not going to be the "MvC killer" that people think it's gonna be.
>>385280197
Homing Dash is really just a movement option and can be beat. People just spam it since it works for now.
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It's going to be technically and mechanically a good game. It will play well.
But the fact that it will only have ~20 characters is unacceptable for a modern Dragon Ball game and you have to be a real beta bitch to defend something like that.
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>>385276457
t. Capcbro
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>>385280621
it's a fighting game made by actually competent devs, not a nearly yearly simulator rehash.
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>>385280621
This isn't xenoverse or budokai. It's real fighting game where making characters takes actual effort
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>>385280432
Homing dash isn't unbeatable but it's low iq shit compared to a triangle dash. The movement in this game is going to feel very samey because of that dash and seeing dragon rush is going to get old really fast.
>>385280621
less than 20 is pretty shit yeah, hopefully it launches with around high 20s to 30 characters. I mean they should for everyone saying this isn't Xenoverse a lot of the characters are samey as hell, not to mention are a lot less complex than their guilty gear counterparts.
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>385280117
nigga you don't know about command grabs do you..
The game system isn't even fully implemented. an e3/evo build doesn't mean its close to completion.
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>>385282230
Wait what, I know command grabs are going to be in obviously. Cell even has one. I'm saying that regular grabs actually make grapplers a lot more viable since you have to guess whether they'll throw you or command grab you.
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Will best character be in?
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>>385283474
If he is, he'll make this game somewhat worth getting.
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>>385283474
>Didn't even make it to the ToP
He should make it in to the game as the dummy AI you practice combos on
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naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa na na naaaa naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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>Super
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>only one assist per character while mvc2 and mvc3 came with 3
Thank god for Infinite, with its 0 assists
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>>385276457
>>385276550
you know what's sad? That you might actually be right.
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>>385285061
Active Switch basically gives you custom assists.
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>>385285524
Feels batman :(
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>>385277332
>b-but it's only 20% complete
games at 20% don't have betas and aren't scheduled for release in less than a year.
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>>385277332
>>385285975
People take the "20%" quote far too literal. It's a proven fact that
>game completion percentages are utter bullshit
>the public demo is always much farther behind that the dev build
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>>385285696
Active SWITCH changes your characters. You can not use it as an assist.
If you want custom assist go play Skulgirls. It's actually a very good fighting game.
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>>385276550
Autocombos scale your damage by a ton
There are grabs
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>>385284862
mate if anything Super characters are going to be in cause of how powerful they are. At the least they have more priority over DB part 1 characters cause they can all fly and use the homing dash mechanic. Characters like Dickolo, Edgelord Goku, and Green Supreme Kai are going to be in and most likely will be the game's MSP or Zero may cry or some other bullshit.
>>385285524
I really want to be wrong.
>>385285975
>>385286150
The issue aren't the characters, although we'll see how it operated with Krillin and Piccolo. It's a fundamental issue with the game, like how adding more characters in SFV won't fix it.
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>Capcbros defense force
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>>385280621
Yeah I love when Dragon Ball games have rosters filled with
>Goku
>Kid Goku
>SSJ1 Goku
>SSJ2 Goku
>SSJ3 Goku
>SSJ4 Goku
>Red Goku
>Blue Goku
>Kid Goku but from GT
such big rosters filled with great characters!
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Quickly you have 10 seconds to name one character from dbz that gets to be in the game. However it cannot be any main character and you mus give it a transformation based off the show
I have Super Saiyan 3 Bulmas dads cat
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>>385276457
>Power levels actually matter so you can kiss the chances of humans ever being top tier in this game goodbye
Damn that sucks. I just wanted to play as the underdogs
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>>385286983
>forgetting the best goku
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Nobody here has played more than 6 characters and the bulk majority of you faggots havent even touched the game but you're already resolved to it being a casual suckfest.
Meanwhile it's being made by fucking Arc Sys, the same guys who make Guilty Gear and BlazBlue.. Fuck off capcbros.
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>>385284862
Pedro
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>>385276457
I legit thought it was shit to begin with.
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>>385286536
There are command grabs, not regular grabs.
>>385286983
You can name over 30 characters if you include the entire series, movies, and super that could get in easily. Without devolving into clones.
>>385287025
Captain Chicken with Kaioken
>>385287827
The same 6 characters being samey isn't the issue. It's a fundamental issue with the game, it's like people who think more characters from TS or SF2 will fix it. Homing dash, teleports, and ki blasts already blacklist a ton of DB characters like Roshi, Tao (likely deconfirmed because of that fact), Kid Goku, and all females that aren't android 18. Hell them being so hellbent on making each character have every normal and move be straight from the manga also severely limits roster choices even among humans like Yamcha.
This is a problem with a series more than anything. It was a bad series to make a fighting game out of. An ideal fighting game would be based on DB of the characters in the 21st and 22nd budokai tournaments. If the series had more moves and the contestants weren't fodderized they'd be perfect. Just the picture alone shows how colorful and varied the cast is while covering all of possible archetypes. DBZ just has characters all wear gis (majority being orange), spandex and everyone shoots beams.
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>>385289021
Fucking talk when the game comes out you fucking sperg.
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>>385276457
>hurr durr mvc
nobody cares tyrone, you can still play "mahvel" and monkey around with your friends on your community college or whatever
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>>385289021
No one wants Yamcha anyway
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>>385276457
Powerlevels are going to be a factor, but at what point in the series are they basing the power levels on? Namek/Frieza Piccolo vs Android/Cell Piccolo vs Buu/AlsoBuu Piccolo are incredibly different in that regard.
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can easily tell you don't play fighting games or else you would have realized that tournament was just scrubs first time playing an unreleased games mashing the auto combo and random supers hoping they'd hit.
once the game actually comes, people will start to learn and play better. kys op and go back to shilling mvci or cry about not getting another shitoverse.
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>>385290051
>Powerlevels are going to be a factor
The fact that you can pit Freeza against Buu should make that claim sound absolutely retarded.
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>>385276550
GGXrd Rev used a DLC expac, not a rerelease.
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>>385276457
>>385276550
im getting worried here. especially that comment about samey playstyles
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>no cross-play
>it's going to die on PC
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>>385290443
Most of the characters chosen were because they were "orthodox" according to the director.
tl;dr you got the most "normal" characters in the demo.
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>>385276457
I don't really care if it's better than other fighting games like mvc. However, I do care if it's better than other Dragonball games.
And it looks far better than Xenoverse, which is plenty good enough for me.
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>>385290051
>>385290254
it's more like characters like krillin would not do as much damage as cell but would have utility but the damage difference is not that big
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>>385276457
I just wish they'd show more gameplay that just isn't another rushdown character.
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>>385289492
t. friendless cuck
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>tag team game
>everybody plays the same
I never understood this about MvC, everybody is either a zoner or a rushdown, and this DBZ game looks to simplify it even furer by having a rushdown-zoner
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>>385276457
>homing dash and teleport mechanic homogenizes the cast
This totally made the cast of Arcana Hearts all play exactly the same.
Oh wait you're too casual to play Arcana.
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>>385291275
MvC had lots of characters who were versatile and could do keepaway and rushdown
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>>385291620
>complain that there are only two archetypes in MvC
>counter saying that MvC has characters that can just do the two archetypes listed
GG no re
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this game wont stop capcom sorry.
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>>385290254
Current Frieza is much more powerful than Buu. He doesn't even need Gold to demolish Buh.
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>>385276457
Fuck off Capcbro
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>>385291738
but if someone can do both, it's a third archetype
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>>385276816
>>385279574
>>385280693
>>385286973
>>385290208
>>385291952
>b-b-but Capcom!
I get so absolutely horny when fanboys of every single fighting game use this as the go-to defense when anyone critictizes their game.
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>>385290254
First of all, this is Golden Frieza we're dealing with. He could fuck Buu sideways these days. Second of all, I'm sure when they mean power levels matter they don't mean literally, but they do influence what goes into a character. They aren't gonna put Krillin into the game and have him get one shot by half the cast, but they may take liberties with his health, normals damage, and specials damage.
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Huh they filtered Capcbro
Wonder who could be behind this...
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>>385292470
IT'S THE SHILLS!
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>>385292470
>being this out of the loop
Thanks for outing yourself as a crossposter
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>>385291861
Stfu, Frieza nut-huggers.
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>>385292547
>filler form he loses the second he gets it becauss o the training needed to get it tires him out
Poor buucucks
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>>385290501
That was a really retarded move on their part. It's obvious they wanted this to really take off become huge and that would'v helped it tremendously. Even if Sony refuses at least crossplay with the Xbone would help out both playerbases.
>>385290254
Frieza is top tier from what we've seen. You can expect Beerus or Super characters to be broken.
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>For this closed beta test , you can participate in PS4 ® version / Xbox One version together with 10,000 people by lottery from those who applied in advance .
they're fucking us
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>>385286150
I really think the 20% was meant for the roster so it should have 30 characters at 100%
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Post yfw you aren't a pessimistic loser like OP
>tfw DBFZ beta, MVCI, and Pokken DX all in the same week
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>>385294078
I will just use a ton of emails like i do with all lottery based betas
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>>385294365
what a cute pokemon
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>>385276457
Will he be in the game?
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>>385295760
Don't see it happening. Even as a Slayer type character he'd still be too powerful. Even Hit's time skip technique wasn't able to put a dent on this guy.
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erasa armpitpussy so tender
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>>385295760
what a shitty character design
>>385296087
she's pretty /fit/
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sticc
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>>385276457
>power levels matter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcWM_1hBu_c
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uguu
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>>385296465
She looks better with the dyke haircut desu
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> a game for fans of the fighting genre and dragonball
>instead of casual fuckfest 23
no wonder you hate it.
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