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Just saw this post on Blizzard forums:

>This game just isn't fun anymore.

>It's pretty obvious Jeff Kaplan has no idea what he's doing and just listens to the selective complaints that he wants to hear. The game is quickly deteriorating and is starting to having a bad reputation due to several factors that could be easily fixed.

>This game should be renamed "Genji and The Hitscans" cause that's all that's effective anymore. No amount of new characters, new maps, and new features will fix a game that is ultimately imbalanced; and no matter how many blind fanboys and "yes-men" down vote this post, it won't change the facts.

>Hopefully Jeff won't continue to be blind like so many other developers and will actually listen to real suggestions when people like me leave and the money stops flowing in.

>I'm out. GL Blizz.

What do you think on the current state of Overwatch? Do you think it is broken? Are you going to quit the game, or have already quit the game?
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I quit September - January and then again early May. Really only so much you can do without community servers.
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>>385274839
Its always been a shit game.

Blizzard is also notorious for being unable to balance anything multiplayer.

Avoid them like the plague for anything but single player.
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>dive meta sees nothing but 5-8 heroes being used
>dive meta will go away on its own, we're not going to change anything
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I wouldn't call it broken, more so stale. The community is pretty shitty too.
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>>385274839
The balance is not that bad, it's primarily just shitters who complain about the "stale dive meta" even though Rein is popular pick in lower tiers so these same people aren't even playing dive.

The game just needs more content like something every month or at least every 2, doesn't have to be a new hero/map just fucking do something
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>>385274839
I fell for the memes and bought Overwatch. Personally I think it's fucking terrible. Legitimately, there's nothing I like about it. Even the aesthetics, which I used to like before I actually played the game, ended up sickening me.
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When almost every character besides genji has severely limited movement options the best option is to just deathball up. Leads to a really boring and stale meta and frankly it wont be fixed unless they redesign every character. Overwatch is a casual game and always will be no matter how hard Blizzard tries to push it as an esport. Just the way it is.
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>>385274839
>Just saw this post on Blizzard forums
Translation: I posted this dumb shit no one cares about on Blizzard forums and felt the need to share it with /v/

Fuck off
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>Listening to anyone on the official forums

That shit is like cesspool
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McCree is my waifu, but I haven't played for a couple of months again because every gamemode except KotH is too reliant on meta picks and carrying is impossible. If they had map or gamemode selection when you queue up I might actually play the game, but ending up on garbage fucking maps 90% of the time is a pain.
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Reminder that junkrat changes make him op as fuck
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>>385274839
Jeff Kaplan is a shitty game director because he has no fucking balls. He moves updates for the game at a snails pace, releases content even slower. No word on single player, pushing an E-sport league even though he admitted the game isn't balanced around e-sports. And the balance, sweet Jesus the worst balance of all time. Blizzard big wigs need to step in and replace Jeff with someone with half a brain, because the sentiment is wide spread, people are getting fed up with this game.
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>>385276538
Hmm no I think you're reading into it too much. The OP specifically asked a question at the end of his post.
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>>385274839
But anon it's just a

FEEL
GOOD
GAME
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>>385276568
Understated problem right here. The only good game mode is KotH and yet you can't queue up for it, instead you have to hope you get it randomly amidst the constant stream of awful shitty campfests and banging your head against a brick wall that is 2-Point and Payload respectively
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>>385274839
Blizzard is fucking horrible with balancing. They always go insane with buffs and nerfs and then do nothing for ages to fix the situation when some heroes become op/useless.
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I haven't played since the first competitive season. What killed the tank meta and introduced a dive meta?
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>>385277351
Dive meta killed tank meta since dive rushes toward healers bypassing the tanks
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>>385276825
Samefag OP being a faggot as usual
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>>385277351
Ana nerfs
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>>385276708

This isnt real.
This is fake as fuck.

Not even once.
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https://mindgames.blog/
I've wondered how /v/ feels about this blog its an overwatch pro players complains and criticism of the current state of the game
I feel like he makes lots of good points and surprised blizz doesn't listen more a guy who has a better idea how to balance their game more then they do
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>>385277546
But weren't dive characters like Genji and Tracer getting stuffed by tanks during the tank meta? I understood Roadhog got his knees shattered a while back, is that what did it?
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>>385274839
The problem is they're so anal about having everything they release "tuned to perfection" that it takes them ages to add anything, and what they do add is boring because it's too "clean". They are so overly worried about balance that they suck out the fun of anything that appears to be "OP" by nerfing it hard. Doomfist wasn't even on the PTR for a week before they started nerfing his mobility. This same mentality makes maps feel homogenized and boring; there's no map where defense characters get to shine because they refuse to add any significant bottlenecks and there's always 50 different routes to flank from. Characters like Bastion, Junkrat, and Torbjorn will never be useful competitively because the maps are never designed with them in mind.

If you only release 1 map every 3 months things will get stale fast no matter how many skins you add.
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>>385274839
>Hopefully Jeff won't continue to be blind like so many other developers and will actually listen to real suggestions when people like me leave and the money stops flowing in.

OW is B2P this idiot thinks he matters haha
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>>385277949
> is that what did it?
Pretty much. It was already becoming a prevalent playstyle prior to the roadhog nerfs but the nerfs really broke the camel's back
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>>385277885
>blizz doesn't listen more a guy who has a better idea how to balance their game more then they do
It's because they want to balance the game so that it works at every skill level. They're trying to cater to babies and casuals, and e-sports players at the same time. It's a fucking mess because of that.
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>>385277949
That along with Ana being nerfed and Reinhardt being made buggy as shit after the ES nerf
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>>385277949
Winston and D.va got buffed which are dive tanks
Roadhog got major nerfs, Ana got nerfed, Zara got nerfed, etc.
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>>385277546
>dive meta killed tank meta
you couldn't be more wrong even if you tried
they nerfed Ana's overall healing output so she couldn't single handley sustain 3 500+ hp heroes anymore
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>>385276552
can't be any worse than here.
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>>385274839
>its an Anon makes a post on the forums that was probably downvoted so he comes to /v/ to get upvotes

fuck off
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Their entire thought process for buffs has to something like this:

>Oh shit, what if X character could do this
>and this
>and this
>and this
>hell yeah let's do all that holy fuck this is gonna be awesome dude

There simply is no other way for things to be fucked up as bad as they are.
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>>385276708
He will just play like in total mayhem but it wont probably op since they will nerf the mine's dammage.
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>>385278235
>v
>upvotes
nigger what?
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Has Blizzard ever made one game which was balanced properly?
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>>385275724
>Avoid them like the plague for anything but single player.

>Blizzard
>Single player
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>>385274839
All people do on the official Blizzard forums is complain. Yet nothing ever changes, people will still play and the state of the game will never improve.

Blizzard is incapable of logic, but most importantly believe THEY ARE RIGHT and YOU ARE WRONG.
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>>385276708
Junkrat actually would be better with 2 or 3 mine charges and a longer cool down for them, actual traps could be made.
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>>385278115
This is also why Blizzard's response to heroes being over-used isn't to give them bigger weaknesses to offset their strengths, it's to kill the reasons they got picked in the first place.

A great McCree player that can land the headshots isn't gonna care if McCree has 50 points less HP as much as a casual player will care that McCree can skillshot him from across the map, so the answer is that the strengths get reduced.

Blizzard ultimately is siding more with the casuals, than the better players, so eventually every hero will have 300 HP and a wiffle bat that deals 1hp damage, and a passive heal of 2hp/s.


>>385278351
Yes, it's pic related.
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Eat my balls Blizztards
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>>385278050
and even then it takes more time because of rebalances. just look at sombra and eichenwalde. but dont worry, theres plenty of new cosmetic shit in limited time boxes pls gib us yor monies ;^)
fucking retarded.
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>>385278351
Warcraft 3? Even in that Humans are fucking nuts
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Lack of content is what killed it for me. The snails pace release for the ultimately underwhelming Sombra release broke me. The centaur bitch being released six months later was the nail in the coffin. DF, Sombra and that chick should have all been in the game by the end of last year. League of Legends is hardly a paragon of game design but compare the amount of content it's gotten in reworks/new champs compared to OW.
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>>385278498
woah
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>>385274839

Even if it were broken, it's not even remotely the problem. It's that people are fucking retarded trolls who want it their way. There's no Team Composition, no map awareness, not towards to even someone like Roadhog for example and so Jeff caters to said retarded people thus ruining the experience for other people who are actually not brain dead. It's the people who suck so much ass, who knows nothing about team work and so they nerf characters for the wrong reasons and then damage control by buffing them again. And on top of that, they STILL haven't introduced a system where they insta-ban people for tilting or purposely trolling to ruin a match. THAT'S what makes the game not fun.
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>>385278115
A casual player made similar complaints to those a couple months back just to have Jeff show up and personally talk down to them about how he's played the game more then them so they clearly have no idea what they are talking about. He's so bitter about criticism of his game that he literally looked up the players game info just to take a high horse. Isn't the first time he's pulled this stunt at that.
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>>385274839
>play the character I want
>get banned
In to the trash it goes.
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I bought the game, played for a few days and quit. It just isn't that fun. Not my cup of tea.
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>>385278498
All of them?
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>>385278682
has this ever happened to anyone or is anon just some salty tf2 dork
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>>385276708
>>385277880
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20758326009?page=4#post-70
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>>385278103

So is Counterstrike...
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haven't played in months, not much content so the game turns into the same thing every season and the balancing is fucking bizarre

>do placements
>get placed
>push ranking
>half the time its miserable and unfun and you're forced into a role because "muh main"
>suffer enough to rank up a few times and get bored
>nothing else to do most of the time because 75% of the playerbase are retards and or children and the game caters to them

good game, shit community
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>>385274839
>Popular game met with critical success slowly starts to fade and unwind as time goes on

Has literally never happened before.
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>>385278880
Players have been silenced for refusing to switch characters when the team demands.
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>>385278996
This. Blizzard obviously has no experience in releasing titles that maintain staying power for over a decade.
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>>385279007
holy fuck LOL
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>>385279142
Nobody does anymore.
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>>385278880
>deflecting to some shitty ten year old game only kids and poor fags care about
why do blizzdrones always do this? isn't pubg or paladins more relevant?
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>>385278326
Tricked
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>>385279007
I would say this seems a little extreme but then i imagine this guy was probably some hanzo faggot being useless, and if so then it's justified.
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>>385279007
It probably wouldn't be a problem if the person playing didn't suck shit.
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>>385279007
They are totally inconsistent on this as well. Saw another screencap of someone else getting an apology and overturn for another infraction for playing who they want.
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>>385279007
>Buy game
>Not allowed to play the game unless you cater to arbitrary needs
Good game.
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>playing comp
>but m-muh rank
excuse me while i actually have fun on qp
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>>385275724
nu-blizzard is shit at balancing
warcraft 3, sc bw, diablo 2, all very well balanced and fun in multiplayer
then fucking activision happened
on an unrelated note, why do most of their lead devs look like total cucks, i.e jeff kapplan, ben brode, both look and act like total pussies
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>>385279287
>le if you play this one character the game makes available u deserve to be banned
Next up: People who play Ryu are banned from future capcom pro tours because the audience finds Ryu unfun to watch.
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>>385279365
>WC3
>Well balanced
Absolutely fucking not.
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Overwatch is the Smash brothers of FPS, it's fun to fool around, but if you take it seriously you're just autistic and will end up hurting yourself.

They shouldn't have pushed the sports crap so much, and just focus on making fun silly modes and adding a campaign with achievements, co op and all that crap. Instead it's this tryhard mess with gachapon rewards to make people empty their wallets to get bikini mercy in the next update.
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>>385279359
>actually have fun on qp
I too have fun when every game is Widow/Hanzo/Genji/McCree/76/??? vs Widow/Hanzo/Genji/McCree/76/???
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>>385279359
Comp matches are much more interesting, structure wise (although control point stays practically the same)
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>>385274839
>385274839 >>385275724 >>385276343 >>385276374 >>385276538 >>385276745 >>385276932 >>385277237 >>385278050 >>385278103 >>385278235 >>385278413 >>385278617 >>385278682 >>385278996

FYI, PUBG has more concurrent players than overwatch right now 24/7, that's how bad it is.

Even worse, top overwatch teams just quit recently and many pros went to CSGO instead for a better esports environment and better and more stable pay
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>>385279460
Yeah, I have fun with matches like that. I also really enjoyed when they allowed us to have 6 man rein teams and shit at launch. It's what made me buy the game

But then blizzard told me to suck a cock if I enjoy fun and not ESPOOOOOOOOORTS SPONSORED BY RED BULLLLL
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>>385279403
Not a fair comparision
Fighting games are all about individual skill
If you pick a shit character and do poorly, oh well your loss idiot
If you pick a shit character or a character you aren't good at in a team game, the rest of the time is down a player
Now, I don't think what happened in the image is right, I think they should be allowed to play whatever they want, but if you're going to argue for something, don't be stupid about it
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>>385279489
Source?
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>>385279423
I think ARMS is more accurate, it's fun for a while but it's casual as fuck and lacks content compared to other games in the genre.
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>>385279287
>>385279332
>>385279341
if you're the type of player that only plays one character, especially one that is fucking useless, then you should stick to playing quick play.

it's pretty straightforward how the different modes are named:

>Competitive = not casual
>Everything else = basically casual

Simple. How people don't understand this, I'll never know.
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>>385274839
Blizzard can't balance. Suddenly buffing a few characters who are currently weak just changes the meta, and certain characters always remain shit because they ignore them. It doesn't help that the last few characters they added were completely useless.
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>>385279596
steamcharts
>412,976 24-hour peak

do you think overwatch has more than 300k players at any time? lel
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>>385279568
If you play a team game you accept that you may lose despite your individual skill. People who cry that they are wronged by their team sucking should not play team games. It is also utterly contradictory to say their needs matter more than the person being banned. Why does the punished persons enjoyment not matter at all? Why do they not advertise these strict rules on the box as required by consumer law?
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>>385274839
>some guy is butthurt genji kills him and the thread
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>>385279007
wtf is this shit
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I've never played this game but I would bet good money everyone assblasted is a butthurt road hog main.

Now scanning thread to check.
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>>385279625
Competitive is different from, and better than quickplay, but not for dickswinging rank cancer reasons.
It's because the matches are built better.
If some stupid faggots here and there can't handle fun being had at expense of overall outcome, then they should simply hang themselves.
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>>385279625
Or blizzard could just refund me. I would never have purchased the game if it was advertised as an esport DOTA clone where I could be punished for having fun and not playing whatever twitch streams tell me to. If blizzard does not want people like me and only wants esports (you know, those players they're bleeding like a hemophiliac in a broken glass factory) then they should just refund thoe of us who were mislead on what the game was. I expected a TF2ish game. Never been banned by valve for maining heavy
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>>385279684
It might. Finding games isn't hard. Besides, PUBG isn't any better, in-fact it's perfect for streamers so no shit it's popular.

It's DayZ all over again. In a couple years some other terrible FPS will come out to replace OW and PUBG. But I want to know about the OW League teams moving to CS:GO, which sounds like they just want to make money by cheating.
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>no dedicated servers with custom maps and content
This is when I knew shit wasn't going to last. I played TF2 for so long because, even if I was bored with the default maps or gamemodes, I could switch it up a bit by jumping on a MARIO_KART server or a surf map or whatever. After a month of playing Overwatch, I was already bored of everything the game had to show me and I wasn't going to stick around to wait for them to release more.
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>>385279684
there's a reason blizzard refuses to release concurrent player numbers.
>b-but muh 30 million
pc bangs, consolecucks, free weekends, smurfs, and inactive players. I hear that smurfs are free on consoles so it's safe to assume those fags have a couple handy to grief or practice a hero.
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>>385279684
fucking this, I can barely get into one game
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>>385279839
Jeff doesn't know what he wants. They marketed it as a comp game yet everyone in comp hates how they balance it. They really straddle the line between having it a competitive game and having it more casual, doing this will kill it in the end.
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>trash popular moba has balancing issues

w-whoa
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>>385279714
I agree with you, I think players should play what they want, and shouldn't be banned for it, my point was that comparing it to picking a shit character in a fighting game isn't a good comparison

Also i'm pretty sure this shit falls under their terms of service, unfortunately if they have reason to believe you're "trolling" or whatever the fuck, they can ban you or silence you and cite their rules even if it's not strictly what they wrote
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>>385279410
shitter detected
all of the races are equally good
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>>385274839
>people saying blizzard can't balance for shit
You fucks thats not true!

Its fucking WORSE the fucks know what their doing but constantly changing the meta is something the believe will force the game to stay active. The "take turns" balancing is pretty damn common in mobas which this is trying to imitate.Haha, you thought I was a dumb fan boy didn't you?
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>>385279839
LoL is the most esportsy game there is and half the people main champions.

Even the most shitty champions are mained by some people in diamond rank.
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>>385279981
I've legit heard of people banned for picking who they want in League. There was even the very famous time an admin banned someone for randoming.
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>>385280095
Blizzards shit for a lot of reasons but at least they have a tendency to do the opposite of this at least.
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>>385274839
What's the problem with genji? Just use symmetra to spook him away or take him out.
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>>385276708
no, he'll still be rendered usless by a pharah and anyone with any actual mobility
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>>385280208
Or play DK. That works too.
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>>385279714
>If you play a team game you accept that you may lose despite your individual skill.

By the same token, if you play a team game then you should accept the fact that your choices will impact the rest of your team. Overwatch is based around communication, each team is basically a human body with each role being a different body part that all have to work in unison. If you don't contribute, then you are objectively part of the problem.

>>385279836
>Competitive is different from, and better than quickplay, but not for dickswinging rank cancer reasons.

Rank is determined by winning. By playing competitive, you are competing. It's not rocket science, you're just retarded.

>>385279839
That's what quick play is for dude. Nobody plays that shit seriously and nobody would care if you play your main there. It's just the shitters that clog up competitive with their autistic roleplaying that are ruining the game.
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>>385278351
StarCraft Brood War after half a decade of patches.
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>>385280095
i gotchu senpai
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I wouldn't say it's broken, but the core game is extremely lacking, there just isn't much to do, i don't know a single person who still plays it.
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>>385280340
>people defended this
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>>385279625
No. If people don't want to play with me, they should form a full team before Q'ing. Not my problem if they can't work around me.
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>>385280262
I just don't know why some people bitch to the team just because they keep getting taken out by the opposition. Just switch to someone else if it's not working for you!
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This is why I went back to TF2. Because nobody can name a more fun, skillful one.
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>>385279919
That's ultimately why TF2 is still ~50-~70k strong daily 10 years after it came out when OW will be lucky to be that popular after like 3 years.

That and TF2 being F2P and a game that's easy to get into.
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>>385280340
>Your summoner has been temporarily logged out due to player support modification to your account
So...the message is that you've been banned? Why not just say "you have been banned for _____"
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>>385274839
whats it like being the vocal minority?
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The game has lasted about as long as an FPS can expect to last without mod support or community servers.
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>>385280736
I always pick pyro and nobody else. Win or lose I always have fun cleansing my enemys with fire. So many death threats just because I wanted to have fun.
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>>385280781
Because "You've been banned because you picked a character some faggot didn't like" sounds even more retarded.
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>>385280340
pendragon is scum
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>>385280340
Reminder the faggot admin could have left and just taken a hit to his MMR, but instead decided to ban someone to avoid losing MMR
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>>385281013
sounds normal to me retard
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>click random hero button
>get banned

A M A Z I N G
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>>385281259
Only in ranked. The random button isn't there anymore. Damn, you look stupid right now don't you?
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I only play quick play.

Literally can play anyone and still win.
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>>385281154
I'm not saying that isn't what happened, i'm saying they'd never admit that's what happened, so they word it in a convoluted way to confuse the retarded.
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How do I play as doomfist?
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I bet Blizzard will do another publicity stunt to make people talk more about the game.

What will it be? Zarya a tranny, or Dva having a bf?
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>>385281351
By punching
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>>385281307
>flip a dice to decide hero
>get banned for playing a hero, blizzard added into the game
>get banned for playing the game literally

A M A Z I N G
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I play hanzo every game in ranked, just leave voice chat so you dont have to hear anyone bitch and moan its p fun
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>>385281307
Why even have it there in the first place if you're just going to ban people for using it, sounds like lazy game design to me.
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>>385281391
Ramadan event next year. Every female character gets a hijab skin :)
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>>385281434
Listening to people sperg is half the fun.
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>>385280280
Competitive is just a better quickplay with an actually functioning scoring framework.
People who actually take competitive seriously for rank reasons, deserve to have their shit sabotaged just to maybe rub in the harsh reality that literally nobody with half a brain cares what rank you are.
I'll keep playing competitive as the fun mode.
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>Maps are shit, go back to the drawing board with all of them
>Some just need minor tweaks while others a complete overhaul is in order (Horizon)
>Every part of Genji's kit is useful while heroes like Widow Maker or Mcree get stuck with a useless brraapp mine or stubby doge roll
>Basically buff the kits of half the cast jsut like they did with Symmetra so they actually have several useful abilities instead of being one tricks

There, Overwatch is saved. Everybody would be op as fuck for a month or two before Blizzard Balanceâ„¢ kicks in but it's better then what we have now.
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>>385275724
Ignore this guy, avoide the SP games as well, they have shitty stories, are repetitive as fuck, have the same old generic cartoonic style and not even the music is good anymore.
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>>385279981
>DotA punishing for spamming a Hero
>League being any way more flexible
Completely false. DotA is well known for having people autistically spamming heroes and doing unorthodox shit.
The report system only imply players and not possible to get banned for anything than hacking/cheating.

League on another hand... Riot tells their players how to play. And if they don't they can actually be banned/sanctionned.
See by yourself:
>http://imgur.com/bbjKP
Idk much shit about this garbage game but apparently this guy got banned for playing chimps on the wrong lanes and building off-meta items.
This would never happen in DotA. You'd get flamed in russian, reported, after too much report out of the ranked queue for a few games but that's it.
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Stale meta, multiple heroes left underpowered, not too much content added.

I moved on when my main (hog) was dumpstered a month ago.
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>>385281565
in the beginning it was but after months of doing this it has become irritating
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>>385281434
I have had voice turned off since day 1 launch
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>>385278446
>Blizzard's best game was made before they were called Blizzard
Really makes you think.
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>>385281391
Maybe a guest character? T-800 or T-1000 since the whole robo war thing. That'll bring some folks back I guess.
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>>385281391
>Dva having a bf

SHE'S TOO PURE
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>>385281420
You're an idiot

>>385281435
Picking at random gave you a gold bonus so it made sense to pick at random but you generally only wanted first or second pick to pick random to ensure you'd have all the roles covered.
>UGH THEN... UNHHH WAHHH WHY NOT... JUST UHHHHHH *shits diaper* DISABLE THE RANDOM BUTTON AFTER, WAHHHHH THE THIRD PICK UNNNNNNNNH WAHHHH
Because the devs figured most people had the sensibility to not do that? Same reason you can pick any hero last pick. You *can* pick an ADC if your team already has one, but you shouldn't. This isn't the game's problem, it's your problem.
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>>385281841
nah

lets make mercy have a past husband too
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>>385281597
Blizzard's way of balancing is just trading off who's overpowered. Exact same shit as WoW from what I've heard, granted I never played it.
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>>385281391
They'll reveal that Symmetra doesn't really have autism, she's just a fucking weirdo.
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>>385281885
you're a retarded blizzdrone
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>>385280187
Not anymore.
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>>385277351
Winston and reaper buffs, hog literally gutted and is unplayable, Ana nerfs, Reinhardt bugged into oblivion
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>>385281885
But why give some people the chance to do it and not others, either everyone should be able to pick random or no one should, again, just seems extremely lazy and the mental gymnastics you're going through to justify their shitty design choice is not helping your argument.
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>>385281669
This, without any major changes the current game is more or less solved, resulting in playing/watching the same game every game
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>>385279603
so, smash
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>>385280340
>eh
Probably a pedophile. Power tripping admin have a tendency to like fucking little kids
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>>385274839
Got a link to the thread?
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How did these people not realise this before the Chinese New Year or Halloween updates
OW is fucking weak and boring. It's like a phone-game version of TF2
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>>385281391
>Zarya a tranny
It's gonna be Mercy. Blizzard are too pozzed into the "transwomen are beautiful and totally their desired gender 100%" camp to do otherwise.
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>>385282432
Smash has a metric fuckload of content, just 5% is tournament friendly
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>watching overwatch "esports' league this past week ebcause bored
>every single game was the exact same comp for both teams
>it was so bland and samey that people would actually cheer if there was ever a character pick that wasnt part of the meta
I laugh at Blizzard.
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>>385279007
Blizzard is ultimately the culmination of everything wrong with the industry, from braindead games with shitty or no story at all to the inability to balance characters and focusing solely on random loots on their games.
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>>385282727
Was it the ironic type of cheer you get when someone drops their tray in the cafeteria or were people genuinely impressed by people changing characters? If it was the latter then i am in no doubt that they were planeted shills like the ones you get at E3.
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>>385282727
been like that since the beginning
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>>385282350
>walk into a bakery 5 minutes before they close
>they're out of cheesy mayonnaise doughnuts (your favorite!) but have everything else in stock
>"can i get uh... 6 cheesy mayo doughnuts?"
>"sorry, we're all out for the day"
>at this point you start throwing and kicking chairs over
>"WHY EVEN ADVERTISE THEM IF YOU DON'T HAVE THEM?"
>"we'd make more but they take an hour to make and we're closing soon"
>"UNGH JUST... UGH... WAHHHHHH"
>"tell you what, i'll give you half off on any other half dozen"
>"no" you quietly mumble
>"excuse me?"
>"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
>bakery calls the police because you're being destructive, loud, and refusing to leave
>the cops come and ask you to leave
>"OH, SO NOW WANTING CHEESY MAYO DOUGHNUTS IS AGAINST THE LAW? THAT'S BAD BAKERY DESIGN"
This is you right not. Maybe not a perfect 1:1 analogy but it's pretty fucking close
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>>385282865

I don't see the problem with games that have no story.
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>>385279007
This is the first time i've heard of a one trick being legit banned. The only reason I could see this would happen is if this guy was constantly destroyed by high mobility heroes, outsniped, or both.
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You all realize ALL THE OLD GUARD with all their talent and vision are gone. nu blizzard is filled with cucks and millennials. Thats why they want to remaster diablo 2 and warcraft 3 because they want old fans back.
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>>385274839
>Remove Shamada bros.
There, I fucking fixed Overwatch.
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>>385282606
Male gamers would quit and hate Blizzard knowing they fapped to a tranny.
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>>385282960
>implying random picks are some limited commodity
There you go with thse mental gymnastics again.

Also
>food analogy
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>>385282981
On blizzard's case I can understand since their ability to write is worse than a 12 year old. But even multiplayer games used to have a story back then.
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>>385274839
It's boring. I quit after 1-2 months. The amount of time you have to invest to get the event skins is fucking disgusting - and all the best ones are holiday/event skins.

I'm not paying to play a game that matches me up with randoms aiming for the same goal, where my impact is meaningless compared to our overall teams impact. Same exact reason mobas are shit. I don't want to HAVE to play with friends to enjoy myself.
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Played it one month and got bored, I had fun though.
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>>385283026
>being bad at games is against the rules
So maybe he should be placed in lower level leagues?
>be a 3 year old toddler
>mashing on the keyboard
>end up grandmaster in starcraft 2v2
>partner asks me to go zerg
>dunno what that is and pick terran
>he yells at me
>i get double 10pool'd and killed
>banned for 7 days for "griefing"
Not sure how that's fair exactly
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>>385275724
This. The people complaining now just have shit taste and are getting bored. Anyone with taste was out during beta.
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>>385283105
Gymnastics wouldn't so daunting if you'd put down those cheesy mayo doughnuts, maybe
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>>385278954
holy fuck please be fake thats OP as shit
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Guys trust me. This game gets 100x better when you leave voice chat and play what you want every round
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>>385281532
They should give junkrat a hijab. Just imagine the lulz
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>>385283245
>calls other anon fat
>makes food analogies
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>>385276020
>>385274839

Is doomfist out yet?

Got overwatch for $0, played for about a week, havent played since.
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>>385283245
why is she looking like that
what is she going to do with those fingers
is she going to
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>>385283336
You'd might as well be playing bot matches
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>>385278954
you gotta be shitting me
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>>385283424
She's got you all tied up and now she's gonna tickle you til you piss and shit yourself
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>>385283167
Ban could be a bit excessive, but if enough complained, it could be within reason. Staying on one hero every game no matter the situation even if you're getting fucking destroyed would be infuriating for the teammates to endure.
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>>385274839
At no point is it fun, tolerable at best, but never fun. There's SO many heroes in the game, but you're locked into requiring certain ones in order to actually succeed. Can't play this hero because they're fucking garbage, can't play this hero because they're not as good as THIS hero, everyone's instalocked their favorites so I guess you're stuck playing healer or we automatically lose.

It's a complete mess. You have heroes like hanzo which enable shitters to get lucky kills because they shot a scatter arrow at someone's feet, but don't actually contribute beyond that, and then you have shit like genji and tracer which have significantly higher individual skill ceilings than most other heroes, allowing them to run wild and shitstomp pretty much everyone else when played well.

Blizzard can't decide whether the game is casual or requires skill, so every choice they make is all over the fucking place.
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>>385283374
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They need to stop balancing based off shitty overused memes
>WOAAHH BASTION KILLED THE ENTIRE TEAM
>Get's nerfed into the worst character in the game
>MCREE KILLED ME AGAIN
>Nerfed so hard that Offense as a whole declined
>PRESS HOOK. WIN. PLS NERF ROADHOG
>Goes from best to worst tank in the game
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>>385278954
I never thought I'd see the day my main becomes meta. Might push me back into the game for a little bit.
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>>385283539
But why not just demote someone who is losing excessively until they're placed in a league where their stubborn choices no longer hurt the match? Why should someone be allowed to compete in the pro leagues if they aren't going to act or play like one?
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>>385278645
That's extremely unprofessional.
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>/v/ is actually this bad at overwatch

wow guys, that's just embarrassing.
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>>385283694
It's like they just want every character to have the same role.
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>have never once played the game
>still hope it doesnt die because of the porn
please god nothing is better than dva getting violated by her mech
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>>385283535
okay
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They're bringing out a new method of handling reports and punishments, probably to address these problems.

Since that report people have been falseflagging stories of onetricks being reported and getting suspended.
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>>385283858
It's not okay, Anon. Who the fuck is gonna clean your inevitable mess up? Do you have arrangements with her to untie you when she's finished? Do you even like being tickled?
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>>385283374
"IM GETTING THE FEELING THAT THERES SOMEONE OUT THERE THAT NEEDS TO BE BLOWN UP" - ALI JUNK RAT MUHAMMAD
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>>385283775
For you.
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>>385283795
name one game /v/ is good at cuhz
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>>385283929
it doesn't matter
nothing does
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>>385278371
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>>385283336
you cant do that and expect to win though, here's an example, say I am on offense pushing the payload, I got a teammate, D.VA, if I am like the only one on the vehicle/payload pushing it and everyones split up than not much is being done and d.va's matrix defense is less effective at helping teammates which is what its supposed to be used for. if you however tell people, hey, everyone, get on the payload so we're all together, we'll be at our strongest since we're not split and if d.va ever needs to use shield matrix then when she does, she effectively can help a lot more people on the team with it cause we're all together, also things can die quicker cause the team can focus fire on specific targets if necessary. lots of people can do random shit in these team games, if you're not being the guy who's trying to get people to cooperate, use the microphone or play correctly than your chances of losing increase, it really doesn't matter how fucking skillful you are
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>>385279007
Most of the OW community actually loves shit like this. They hate anyone having fun and only want everyone to play around them. Anything remotely unbalanced must be fixed immediately or they will go into autistic OCD fits. The cast must be diverse and must represent everyone (besides racist white bois ofc). If they see someone say anything remotely negative they will screech toxic at the top of their lungs while smashing their heads against there keyboards in, again, autistic fits. Then they will not only report you in game, but also send 20 page essays to support about how this toxic person ruined their safe space.
This is the average OW player.
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>Guy on team picks bastion
>Entire team gets tilted out of the stratosphere in 0 seconds flat
>"WELL I'M NOT PLAYING SUPPORT IF YOU AREN'T TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY"
>Tank swaps to hanzo
>Widow, Torb, and Junkrat show up, they all consistently bitch at each other the whole game as they continue to trickle in, waste ults, and ask for healing

Yeah man, Blizzard sure is the problem here.
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>>385279714
except its not about skill you're actively being a dead weight to your team by picking an inconstant character like Hanzo
hope you enjoy your ban, elo leech :^)
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>>385283992
Such a sad little boy! Hopefully somewhere in the next 20 minutes she makes you feel something again
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>>385278967
For a third of the price and infinite free content.
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>>385284005
and to add onto that, it literally doesn't even matter what dps I'M playing in any situation, nor should it in my opinion, I should be able to play torbjorn all the fucking time and the thing that should be winning the games is the teamwork, not the hero pick, and I know for a fact that a lot of the people who complain when I play torbjorn on offense are people who don't even use the microphone to communicate, so they tell people to report me in chat, meanwhile they're complete fucking hypocrites cause they don't even use the microphone to communicate with the team, they'd rather just sulk in the chat and cry that a teammate is doing something they don't like.
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>>385283374
Sure, why not. I wonder why they didn't pull it off yet to get publicity. Imagine the gallons of anger ridden blood coming from the anuses of /v/ and some SJWs mad about cultural appropriation.
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>>385284208
>>385284130
>>385283798
>purple skin widow

yawn....
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>>385284113
How to spot a thrower:
>they play a defense hero all round
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>>385282929
there was a guy on 1 of the teams who picked widow and mccree a couple times and the audience was cheering, the announcers were talking nonstop about how exciting it was to see this player on a mccree and widow, and they kept the streams focus on his point of view while he was getting a couple nice picks, but missing tons of shots
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>>385274839
It was fun for the first few months but after a while it gets really repetitive . Haven't played for like 6 months now and none of my friends are playing either.
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Gamers just suck :\
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>>385283085
They would just move over to Cockney Gay and Widow.
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>buy casualmode fps: assfaggots edition
>play """competitive""" mode in a casual game
>complain balance is shit
?????
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Like it or not, OW is gonna be around.

Comp scene might die, eSport scene is already dead, but there will always be a vocal playerbase.
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>>385283336
>muting chat
>playing what you want every round
Not a solution to the real problem. The new ban system. You could have all golds and have the enemy team accusing you of hacking at the end of a match but your team will still report you for playing hanzo. They'll report you for going attack symm on hanamura which is actually a legit strat. Etc. You can't pick widow or torb otherwise you're throwing.

The new problem is that 100 reports = automatic ban. Forget about calling people faggot or retard, you can't even play the game well anymore because just triggering enough people in one season means you get booted. Whenever some passive aggressive beta male suggests you don't need a (insert name here), then begs the enemy team to report you, you're one step closer to getting locked out, whether you hear him say it or not. The game is dead. People thought the same old dive meta heroes in every match was boring before; meeting stubborn people who only want to play one character was unfair to their precious SR (which adjusts based on performace and hidden MMR, not just wins-losses). Well wait til the new system settles in. The squeaky wheel gets the oil, the nail that stands out gets hammered down, etc.

Better start playing the way everyone else tells you to. Unless you want to be locked out of the only competitive game mode.
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>>385281576
>competitve is just a better quickplay
your opinion
>People who actually take competitive seriously for rank reasons, deserve to have their shit sabotaged just to maybe rub in the harsh reality that literally nobody with half a brain cares what rank you are.
I'll keep playing competitive as the fun mode.
Can't wait until you get banned for having "fun" read: throwing games
:^)
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I got bored of playing Winston and winning every game, truly ranked mode it's a joke. I'll come back for the next event to get the skins.
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>>385274839
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How do I improve my aim with mcree? Sometimes I'll hit headshots the whole match and other times none at all
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>>385284647
It really is like TF2
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>>385283026
the only ONLY viable excuse for banning someone for playign who they want is if they were a dick about it. If they insulted people or acted like a troll while doing it.
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>>385274839
Like the post said currently Bilzzard is so far up its own ass that they cant balance anything correctly and people are leaving in droves simply because of incompetence. League of legends did something similar to this and look what happened to it. Nerfing everything into oblivion is not good for the games overall health.
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What is the best team anyway?
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>>385281532
I would unironically love this. Hijabs get my dick rock hard. Cutest headware.
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>>385274839
Nerf Genji to hell or retire him and watch the game become fun again.
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>>385278050
>no significant bottlenecks

Are we even playing the same game?
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>>385284864
I dont understand, if they wanted competitive fps why the fuck they would they pick tf2 or overwatch. Its like saying you want to play baseball but then instead going to go play softball and complaining it isn't baseball.
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>>385283740
They got rid of that
I'm not joking, that used to be a feature but they removed it because people were purposely losing to get into the shit rank
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>>385279007
Oh good guess my reports ARE doing something
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>>385282056

>They'll reveal that Symmetra doesn't really have autism, she's just a fucking weirdo.

So she'll just be a creep? I'm down with that.
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>>385284014
You had me for a second until you did your stupid victim complex about progressive. Nigger the games theme is "progressivism" according to you. It's the same theme as street fighter. Fighters from around the world representing their locale fight each other. But you retards cry it's an agenda if an Indian is included in a globe trotter game. Do you people cry about new Street fighter, too?
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>Blizzard gets rid of the avoid player option
>Mei on own team blocks the spawn door with her ice
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>>385284419
But the thrower is the tank. If you cry and intentionally throw because you for somereason think all is lost if someone doesn't play meta, then YOU deserve a ban.
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>>385274839
Hitscan are always too good.
Genji's dash resets are ridiculously good and should be removed.
Tanks do too much damage
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>>385279007
Why don't they just ban characters deemed non-meta? Like grey them out on the select screen in competitive so they aren't selectable.
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>Best ass in the game is Widowmaker
Don't worry guys, she'll turn out to be a lesbian/tranny sooner or later
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>>385274839

Blizzard rolling over and accepting dive meta and continuing to ignore the blight that is high mobility heroes with low cooldowns makes the game unplayable past a certain ELO.

The typical hero game design philosophy of making heroes fun to play and horrid to fight against makes every game unsatisfying.

Ultimates that grind the game to a halt have no place in a fast paced arcade shooter
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>>385279007
>Normal games remove content they need to rebalance from ranked
>Blizzard bans you if you pick characters they refuse to fix

Why, just give her a weapon that isn't a sniper and change her ult to some AWP shit to stay lore friendly.
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>>385285587
>Lesbian Widowmaker
That just makes it better.

She was married previously though and she's currently brainwashed so that would be like saying being a lesbian is just brainwashing.
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>>385284149
alright now what
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I wish I could get a refund on this shit.
I guess I'll have to wait until a large mass of people start crying for a refund.
Do you think there's still a chance for Reinhardt being a woman?
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Just a reminder that on conolse you can play as whoever you want and literally have fun throwing without penalty
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>>385274839
I play it. I enjoy it.
I don't play often enough to be qualified for discussion about balance or meta.

I DO think it's not a game that earns the competitive status it fights for, but I still think it's a damn good time, especially with friends.

It's a lot like Smash Bros in that way.
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>>385282424
>Only been a year
>already has been solved despite major updates changing and adding new characters and playstyles

Shallow as fuck. Even Super Smash Fighter V has more depth.
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I quit after they introduced showing groups in tab. Knowing that by playing solo you will always be matched with a 5man premade that will never communicate with you is complete pure shit. Ranked is also a joke, a single bad person that plays a shit sniper kills the team

There should be a mode for only solo players.
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>>385285954
>comparing the Overwatch to Smash Bros.
what are you smoking?
Overwatch is a mess while Smash Bros. is a masterpiece, in Smash Bros. you can play as whoever you want without the risk of getting banned.
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>>385278050

Defense heroes aren't allowed to be good because the entire game is based around stalling for your six ultimates and then killing everyone in five seconds to take a point.

If they were being logical, Torb, Summer, etc wouldn't even be in the game but people would Bitch if there wasn't a turret character even if the system mechanics make them unplayably bad
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>>385285927

I can agree that being banned for things like playing off meta would be bullshit, but people should be penalized for intentionally throwing games, especially in competitive, there's nothing fun about being paired with someone who does absolutely nothing, quickplay it's whatever, but it'd be a lot more frustrating in comp.
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>>385285904
You literally see his face in the comics and in several of his skins and sprays.

I have no idea why you even held onto the faintest hope that Reinhardt could be a woman. How do you function as a person? Does your nurse know you're on the internet?
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>>385279007

Thank fucking god they're doing something about these shitters, I might actually start playing again now that I know I can report some nig nog for not helping and get them banned.
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They need to start doing the thing they do in Heroes of the Storm, where you pick a character BEFORE you get added to a game.

Also, competitive mode should have a hero draft.
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>>385286247
I don't read the shitty comics
I also haven't played the game for a while.
You ignorant manlet
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>>385286339
Yeah man lol fuck people who want to use the product they bought.
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I wonder why Blizzard won't just release a game mode where you queue up as a specific hero and then mashed into 1 tank, 2 healer, and 1 defense, and 2 offense locked teams.

That way Mercy, Hanzo, and Widowfags can be funneled there instead of pulling their shit in regular games.
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>>385285904
>>385286247
>refund

how long have you owned the game? lol. refunds are for shit you havent played 2 hours of friend, if you've been playing the last year and you think this game is worth refunding you must have a serious entitlement complex.

I payed 40 bucks for this before christmas last year and I already feel like I got my money's worth and I hardly play it anymore.
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>>385286349
no. that shit fucking sucks. it's one of the worst parts of that game.

draft is also stupid and makes literally 0 sense in a game where you change characters constantly. that was the whole point. to counter on the fly.
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>>385286425
>i have done these ignorant things and I claim something because of my ignorance
>no it's you who are ignorant!
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>>385286349
>draft in a game that allows you to switch
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>>385286349
Isn't the ability to change your hero on the fly supposed to be a huge part of Overshill? Your "fix" would completely negate that.
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>>385279007
good. i've lost a lot of games because some stupid faggot sat on torb or a sniper on a cp map.
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>>385286643
WThey don't even let you play all the characters so that is already invalidated. I won't switch because I fear being banned for not playing what twitch daddy tells me. All hail seagull
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>>385286705
You are literally everything wrong with gaming and do more damage than Anita has.
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>>385286581
>>385286641
>it's one of the worst parts of that game.

Why? Play who you want, get a (presumably) decent comp regardless. Sounds like everyone wins to me.

Also, you're right, draft would suck the way the game is now. Switching characters on the fly should cost something. I'm not sure what. Maybe spend a few seconds outside the match. The idea is to give weight to character selection. That would help a lot of things, especially in competitive.
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>>385286425
what the fuck does reading the comics or recently have to anything you fucking metal retard?
Reinhardt voice be heard clearly and has skins that show off his face
are you actually this stupid? how do you function like this? how do you even mange to navigate the internet?, nevertheless how do you even mange to put on your own clothes?
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>>385282163
>, Reinhardt bugged into oblivion
what?

what happenned to my boy rein? can you elaborate?
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>>385286834
The game is fun to me because I can dictate what others player and punish them for not listening to me. Without this it is shit.
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Soldier's hitscan is broken shit.
Pharmercy is broken shit.
Overbarrier is stale shit.
Defensive heroes are all useless shit.

Healers were a mistake.
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The fact that they still don't have map type filtering at this point is amazing. It would be like queueing for battleground in wow only you can't choose the bg and it's always random.
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>>385286834
>Switching characters on the fly should cost something
It costs you whatever your ultimate is charged at in this press Q to win game.
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>>385286875
not him, and I have no knowledge of the updates. But recently it really feels like Rein's hammer down is FUCKED.

It works maybe 50% of the time for me now whereas before I could fucking dominate with it, felt like everytime I wanted it to work it would.

Now I can clearly see my range is open and I'll fire it off and only get ONE person in range down while the others glitch the fuck out and get right back up.

I dunno if its just me or what but I've pretty much stopped playing him, sucks because he used to be my dawg
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>>385279007
>people defend this
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The main problem with Overwatch "balance" is that balancing one hero doesn't matter when that hero has a distinct presence in the team composition that can either destroy it or make it OP.

Example: Dive comp = Winston, D.va, Genji, Tracer, Zen, Lucio

imagine swapping the Genji for a Hanzo. Suddenly your Winston and Tracer have one less butt-buddy and the D.va is better off peeling for the Zen and Hanzo. It changes the entire dynamic of the team, so the team bitches and complains at the sniper. Nothing can fix that.

What needs to be balanced is the effectiveness and variability of team compositions. That's a lot harder than it sounds. Quickplay isn't an option because the only thing keeping OW bearable is the attempt at winning each match. In quickplay half your team is content sitting in spawn with their thumb up their ass spamming half charged shots as widowmaker and nobody picks a healer.

I honestly think OW is always going to be a shit show. Especially since most people just want hero-bans from comp and stricter punishments for off-meta picks.
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>>385286834
I consistently get terrible comps in heroes if i queue with anyone. Even if we queue as three with a fairly balanced comp, we will end up with too much of something vs. an objectively better comp or the exact same shitty comp. It just doesn't work since you don't know what map or mode you are playing. It's bad.
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>>385285872
she undresses you carefully.
''You've been a very bad boy'' se claims while grabs something from a table near her. It's a 5~ inch, rusty nail.

''And you know what bad boys get, right?''
She looks at your penis, and you begin to understand what's going on. You try to untie the ropes but you can't, you just end up bruising yourself and start bleeding.
She then grabs your penis and starts slowly inserting the rusty nail down your urethra. Your screams are silenced because of the gag you're wearing, and you start choking in your own saliva. She's still pushing it, you feel like you're going to pass out from shouting at the top of your lungs, albeit nobody hearing you. Your penis is a mess with bleed and piss over the place Then she gets up, with a blank expression.
''Enough fun for today''. She kicks the nail all the way inside your penis and it goes directly to your bladder, piercing it in a piss explosion. You pass out and die bleeding out on the floor.
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>>385286980
>overbarrier is stale shit
???
elaborate
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Threads about OW "dying" are ultimately useless. It may wax and wane in popularity but, like all Blizzard games, there will always be people playing. You'll always be able to jump in and find a game quickly, and play for as long as you want.

It might not always be "Alive", per se, but it sure as shit won't die.
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I quit after the first month it launched. I didn't hate the game, but I quickly got bored. Reinhardt and Winston was pretty fun to use for the short time I played at least.

>>385279684
Wasn't PUBG always beating out Overwatch after about a good month on Steam?
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>>385287216
Wrong. Quick play is the only thing keeping Overwatch bearable as you are playing how you want to in quick play. This game wasn't meant to be competitive and the competitive scene feels forced.
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>>385287340
How many fucking barriers does a game with healers need?
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>>385287590
>this game wasn't meant to be competitive
neither was eating or jumping around in potato sacks, and yet there are eating competitions and potato sack races all the time because it's more fun to compete against others than to do it alone for no reason at all

if you prefer quickplay that's not my business but there's a huge difference between playing against someone that's trying and playing against someone that complains about tryhards. the first person is actually satisfying to shit on.
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when did d.va get buffed? Does her matrix build ult yet?
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>>385274839

I couldn't answer your question because I got bored quit 8 months ago
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The game is so boring
Good thing friend bought me
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>>385274839
>I just posted this on the Blizzard forums:

fixed
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>>385278954
WHEN I HEARD JUNK WAS CHANGING I WAS SO FUCKING PISSED
NOW IM GONNA BUST A FUCKING NUT
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>>385287334
Now what?
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The amount of people desperately trying to prove OW is dead is retarded. It almost definetely hits 100k players a day. It's one of the biggest games out there right now. Pointing out that "it's not as big as CSGO/LoL/something thats new!" doesn't mean shit.
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I missed the game in its heyday, I can get matches pretty quickly but how better was it in it's prime?

Were wait times like 10 seconds inbetween or something? I remember Halo games being like that in their primes.
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>>385289253
Not as big as an early access game
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>>385289353
PUBG? No shit, it's new and shiny. See how it's doing in a year.
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>>385289347
Even straight after launch it could take around a minute. That's more dependent on your level than anything else.
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>>385289437
>OW is the most hyped game over 2016 and blizzard has had it in the oven in some form for a decade
>beaten out by an unfinished H1Z1 clone
SAD
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>>385289353
Keys will that shit mighty quick just watch.
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>Its a /v/ critiques the state of game they have no fucking clue about episode
After reading this thread do any of people even play this game? or just parrot what you've seen on this site?
Like I've never seen so many people be so wrong about so many things like shit it actually be impressive if it wasn't so sad
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>>385289506
OW's launch numbers obliterated PUBG's current numbers.

Again. Call me in a year.
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>>385289535
Sorry meant to say *Keys will kill that shit mighty quick, just watch
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Allow teams to ban characters in competitive. 4 votes to ban 2 characters per team so people can ban Widowmaker or whoever on their team.
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>>385289564

They're too busy playing the

>See if the blizz forum has any complaints to determine whether the game is doing well
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>>385289564
you can't really come into a thread shitting on people unless you mention what your actually angry about, bitch.

Saying "I see so many people here that are wrong" is so vague it might as well not be a statement. Who is wrong? Wrong about what? What is your opinion on the topic? Wtf is going on?
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Meh, I don't play competitive overwatch. I pop in every now and then when I am in the mood, grind some levels for fun, do some of the side stuff, and come back later.

I might play more of it later once everything with Doomfist calms down.
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ITT: People say a game is dying because it's not as popular as it was at launch - which, no game ever is.
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>>385289689
Situations will arise were people suddenly need that character for some reason and you'd have to add the ability to remove those bans mid match and it would just be clunkcy as fuck I would imagine.
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>>385287590
Quickplay is stale as fuck too. You have Widow, Hanzo, Genji hard lock on every team that isn't dive meta, so it's always a shit show
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I got to 2990~ and quit. got tired of the super boring characters that were viable compared to the others that were fun to play but not effective. that and the community is just retarded, they play one of the easiest and most boring team shooters on the market and they all think they're getting a benq sponsorship tomorrow if they win this game.
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>>385289930
>>385287590
Here we see two people arguing over opinions. How fascinating.
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>>385289812
>which, no game ever is.
Rainbow Six Siege
U. Marvel vs Capcom 3 grew over time surpassing even vanilla
TF2 grew over time before capping and declining
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>>385289994
not to mention some player's total inability to understand that they've done fuck all for the past 4 minutes why the fuck do they think doing the same thing for another 60 seconds is going to be a win?
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>>385274839
Fuck the meta, just play mystery heroes and have fun
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>play competitive
>play Soldier
>wipe out 4 people on the enemy team before I die because Rein keeps dropping his shield for no reason and I get scatter-arrowed
>point is empty
>team doesn't push the point
>even though it's empty
>lose with 5 gold medals, outhealing Mercy and Ana
>lose 50 SR, going from 2990 to 2940
>was 3500 last season and placements put me at 2300 in this one for some reason even though I only lost three out of ten

the rank system in this game makes no fucking sense at all
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>>385290045
>TF2 grew over time before capping and declining
You mean it went FTP in a desperate attempt to get it's playerbase back

I'm not saying it didn't work, but I'm not sure that counts.
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>>385290092
I was going to post this. Mystery heroes is the last fun way to play this game.

Completely FUCKS mains players, fucks ults, changes playstyles midgame. It's awesome. Best way to play.
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>>385290092
>mystery heroes

So I go from "Luck based gamemode where you have to hope you're lucky enough to have people on your team who aren't clinically retarded" to "Luck based gamemode where you have to hope you're lucky enough to have people on your team who aren't clinically retarded AND get a team comp that doesn't get you stomped"
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I jumped off this shit when my mouse sensitivity would fucking double every time I got gold medals.
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Blizzard makes games with the intention that players will play them exactly how Blizzard wants them to play the game.

This makes all their games go incredibly stale after a couple of weeks.

Fuck Blizzard.
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>>385290092
Shit like MH is where OW shows its strengths. It has ways of allowing everyone to find enjoyment in it somehow, even through arcade modes.
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>>385290240
Actually, making the heroes random reduces your chances of having clincally retarded team mates, at some point in the match they'll usually find themselves spawning as someone they actually like to play and start contributing more.
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>>385290296
this

if you don't jump off the "lucio walls" with lucio, you just fall off of them.
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>>385289729
Your right however, I've been reading for like the past 20 minutes so I've forgotten what I've read but did read boy did it make me pissed
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>>385290151
This.
>play ranked for days, weeks, months to go up in rank
>lose it all in 1 night
What the fuck. I stopped playing ranked because this happened to me and I don't know how anyone can continue if they ever happened to them.
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>>385290189
Of course it doesn't count, despite being dogshit and a shell of itself blizztards always feel insecure about it.
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>>385290092
this desu, though I wish it had some sort of weighting to the RNG (e.g. team has no healers, next hero is more likely to be a healer)

Played Mystery Heroes for my first 150 levels and now in Comp I can play basically anyone very competently (and about 9 I can play VERY well) which is extremely useful
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>>385289086
You go to hell like all faggots, the end.
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>>385290006
Are we supposed to argue over facts you dumbshit
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>>385276708
You know something this fucking stupid could have been avoided if they just gave ol rat a Projectile speed buff and nothing more. BUT NOPE BETTER CHANGE HOW THE CHARACTER COMPLETELY PLAYS PROBABLY ENABLING HIM TO BE PICKED EVERY GAME BECAUSE HE WAS BUFFED TOO HARD WHEN HE WAS ALREADY PRETTY GOOD.

Goddamn it bilzzard this is why nobody likes your balance team.
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>>385274839
Overwatch is a "TF2 killer" that came out after TF2 already killed itself, made by a company that doesn't understand why TF2 was popular and played by an army of Blizzdrones who wouldn't know a good game if you beat them within an inch of their lives with it.
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>>385290675
TF2 sucked
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>>385290661
>Buff projectile speed SLIGHTLY
>Give secondary fire that costs half the magazine that shoots a single grenade in a straight line (like Zen's orbs)

There we go, Junkrat is now viable since he's not totally helpless against Pharah and isn't useless in the long open areas that the game has way too fucking many of
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>>385290151
At least you don't have my shitty luck.

>get game late because I'm a stubborn cunt
>start at the tail end of a season
>"anon, just do your placements and get the free points"
>do placements
>low gold
>whatever, I can just climb next season
>roll around next season
>get paired with nothing but silvers for placements
>low gold again
>try to climb up
>paired with more silvers
>regularly get put against plat and diamond players in qp, arcade, whatever
>but only silvers in comp
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>>385290757
t someone who didn't play it before it went free to play
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A perfectly balanced game is boring:

See TF2

Purposefully imbalanced games are god tier:

See MW2
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>>385290631
What if repent before I die?
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>>385290881
No, I played it back then too, it was garbage then and it's hot garbage now. Valve only know how to make money, not decent multiplayer experiences, they never have.
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>>385274839

>I'm out. GL Blizz.

LMAO OH NO
PLS DON'T GO

AHAHAHAHA holy shit, did he tip his fedora on the way out?

Seriously, people need to git gud. Modern games gag these kids with a fucking spoon. I'll bet this kid is mad because he got his Hog instakill nerfed.
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>>385290553
> I wish it had some sort of weighting to the RNG (e.g. team has no healers, next hero is more likely to be a healer)

This. I think they should always try to put at least one healer on the team as well as avoid repeating the same hero more than twice (I literally got 3 widows on my team at the same time twice).
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"can't carry in this game" but pros do it all the time, "meta is so boring and stale" but everyone and their mother complains when people pick something not meta or one trick something not meta

honestly it's the fanbase, people keep blaming blizz for the meta but it's basically every single shitter in comp that lives and dies by what they see pros use, i've seen enemy teams not use the meta, and teams STILL bitch if you don't pick the meta yourselves

but then you just have to try and remember, everyone below like diamond is a big idiot and not very good at the game, so then it kind of makes sense

a lot of rage from the high end guys comes from the fact when the meta changes, they're completely irrelevant, so they bitch and complain about the 'meta' just because they aren't good at it

i feel bad for some tho, like in this dive meta, guys like harbleau, especially after the hog nerf, are basically fucking useless

i have no idea what people expect tho, so many people like pick 1-2 people to get good with, even pros, then they're salty as fuck when the meta changes and something else is better, but they're not good at it because they spent hundreds of hours on the one/two trick style, and they just can't be bothered to learn something new, mostly because they'll get fucking assblasted if they play anything else
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where can I find a sound file of widowmaker getting damaged saying "ayy!"
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>>385291183
expanding on this, i think an obvious/good system choice would be to add a couple Q options, mostly solo queue/team queue, and then a 'role selection', so you can queue up and get into a group that will fit for you, but if it can't find a group fast enough, the game will ask you to play something else like LOL does, but then guarantee you the spot next time

ez fix desu
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>>385291183
So your argument seems to be
>game sucks because of people under diamond
>people above diamond are no fun to play with because they rage all the time so the game sucks

Which is it? The low players or the high players?

[/spoiler]It's the 'pros' that ruin it for everyone else, its meant to be a casual game[/spoiler]
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>>385291297
boot up the game, record it and and upload it.
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>>385291360
I've always advocated for something like this. but then people complain that this would just stick to the same boring meta. but at least I would get to play what I want in the same boring meta.
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>>385274839
It was never 'fun'. This was a boring, crappy, holy trinity, shooter that only got simpler over time.
Why the fuck do you people still even play Blizzard games.

Literally the exact same thing happened to SC2. Top of the world to bottom of the priority list.
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>>385290908
Repenting before dying doesnt count babe
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>>385291364
low players are shitters and just blindly follow the meta, you can go into a game of qp, and you might see some plat genji/tracer talking mad shit because of the team comp, but they're trash and playing meta, but because they're meta somehow it's other peoples fault

'stale meta' is basically because people can't/won't play other things, they're too bad/scared, even though korean/chinese teams have started to come up with the 'shotgun' comp that counters dive pretty well

i won't blame pros for using the meta, i'll blame everyone else for that first desu, esp since the meta trickles all the way down to gold, where people aren't even good enough to play dive well, so it's like.. why the fuck are you even bothering with the meta in the first place? comp without a proper group isn't even very good for dive since you actually need to have communication and shit
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>>385291183
Getting a bunch of last hit kills isn't carrying. This game registers a kill for you even if you did 1 damage. You've probably done it and gotten praised and I know for sure I've done it and people thanked me for carrying when its the game game and how its designed to make everyone think they are good.
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>>385276708
Isn't junkrat classified as a defense character? Why are these examples so aggressively oriented?
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>>385291565
It's his turn for a buff anon.
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>>385291360
It would be a good idea but the playerbase really isn't big enough for that kind of thing. It works for League because they have a huge playerbase and waiting five minutes for a 30 minute game is acceptable. Overwatch's playerbase is already pretty divided as is, takes me 5 minutes on average just to find a quick play game
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At this point, your opinions on OW are irrelevant. The game isn't going anywhere for a long time regardless. It's a Blizzard game. There will always be a dedicated core community.
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>>385290886
>TF2
>Balanced

But you are right which is why TF2 stil.l has players after almost 10 years
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>>385291565
he has traps and concussion mines, so he'll always be better situated somewhere like a choke point, so even if you give him mobility he'll still be better off on defense

even with these changes, he'd be great against flankers since the trap would like shit on them and the double mines could ruin people, but any long range hero will still dunk on him

this could be a buff he needs, similar to how mccree badly needed that buff to his secondary skills like flashbang
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>>385291565
Overwatch clearly needs more Assault classes
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>>385280525
do you realize the queue times for matchmaking an entire team of 6 with varying ping and skill level is?
Do you know how matchmaking systems work?
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>>385291695
>5 minutes on average just to find a quick play game
Where the fuck do you live? That's insane. It takes me 1 minute, max.
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>>385291695
where you located? on west coast NA i usually find a game within 30 seconds during the day, and no longer than like 90 at night
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>>385291695
>5 min average queue
Do you live in Africa?
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This what happens when you balance your game like LoL where you make certain comps unambiguously top tier by nerfing the fuck out of certain heroes every couple of months.
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>be ausfag
>keep getting put onto american servers
>even in competetive
>even against other americans, so there isn't an equal ping problem
>I'm the only one out of 12 with a ping of 200+ because blizz's matchmaking is shit
>all the americans on the other team laugh
>all the americans on my team get pissed off
>so I go lucio because my ping doesn't matter now and we win and I laugh
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>>385291864
>>385291867
>>385291934

I should have added that I am a bit of a special case in that regard, my account is a smurf and the matchmaker seems to heavily prefer putting me only against low level high mmr accounts
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>>385279007
Absolutely indefensible.

Overwatch is a cesspool of shit. Its community is somehow even worse, worse than the rawest filth from Fuck Mountain.
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>>385291825
just praying to the gods they add an anti-dive tank or support

they badly need more tanks and supports, one of the reasons why dive is so effective is because the tanks aren't very good against dive mobility and neither are the supports

a big reason even the tank meta was so long was because there weren't enough tank busters

as 'big' as people say the meta issue is, so much of it can go away once they add a few more heroes, really would be nice if they did more than 1 every few months tho
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>>385280340
>pendragon
What a scumfuck asshole of a human being. Fucker has NEVER had to face the music for the shit he's done
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>>385291509
What if i'm an atheist and don't believe hell or heaven where do i go then huh?
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12v12 when
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Dive comp will die next season. Until then, calm your tits.
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>>385292048
>smurf complains there aren't enough smurfs causing his queue times to be longer
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You know what. No, it shouldn't be "whatever" when people just do whatever they want in quickplay without even trying to accomplish the main objective of the map. It's a 6v6 multiplayer game that requires teamwork. The least you can do is actually put effort into the character you pick and to try your hardest to win.
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what's this 'dive' business about and how come I went from never hearing it before to it coming up a million times in this thread. I haven't played the game in a month
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>>385292048
>smurf

Smurfing is easily the most cancerous thing you can do in a multiplayer videogame outside of outright hacking/cheating
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>>385279007
All the silvers are whining at this but if you play at GM and you have 5 people trying to win and one stubborn prick who won't switch when he's ineffective or being countered, it's a fucking joke for people who just want to play serious competitive matches. It's just a silence penalty anyway.
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>reaper is still useless
>sombra is still useless
>mei, hanzo, widow, orisa, symmetra, tornbjorn are still extremely situational
>ana, 76, phara and winston in every game
This is just fucking boring.
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>>385292105
Just won't work. Imagine the ability and ult spam. It's not like TF2 where 24 players works perfectly.
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>OWtards act like they have a big player base while quoting game sale numbers instead of active players, which blizzard doesnt publicly announce
OWtards are a special kind of cancer. Too unskilled for a real FPS, too dumb for a MOBA.
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>>385283336
I don't understand why people like you don't just play QP if this is your mentality.
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>>385292289
They've gotta at least have an experiment. Throw it in as an event gamemode or some shit. Let them run it in community servers.
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>>385292279
>Reaper is still useless

>winston in every game

If you can't kill winston as Reaper you should just give up videogames alltogether
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>>385292095
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>>385274839
>dive comp owns the meta
>dive comp invalidates 90% of the roster
>winston is actually fucking broken
>d.va eats ultis and nothing is being done to fix this
>repear is now fucking broken in 1v1 situations
>Roadhog cant even 1 shot a tracer point blank
>all the snipers have no reason to exist
>doomfist being added wont fix anything
>doomfist's charge is useless but when it pins you it kills every attacker in 1 shot
>half the maps including the new ones are actual garbage competitively
>MERCY IS FUCKING INVINCIBLE AND CAN DIVE INTO HER TEAM AND REVIVE WITH NO CONSEQUENCES AND THIS IS PERFECTLY FINE WITH EVERYONE

Thank god I left the moment I got grand master, now I only play with friends for fun, but its still a badly balanced game
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>>385292334
And what's the base for your claim of the game having a small player base? You just feel that way?
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>>385292451
>game is 1 vs 1
Huh.
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>>385292190
I'm not really complaining about it, just pointing out why the idea I replied to wouldn't work out

I would be complaining if I had to wait 15 minutes because of role selection though

>>385292258
The matchmaker in overwatch figures out where you belong in only a few games, according to both my anecdotal evidence and Jeff's interview on that topic
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>>385280956
COD4 did 2 years before MW2.
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>>385279365
>Ben Brode
>Pussy
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
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jesus this thread sucks.
kinda glad i grew up in the QIII/UT days when we didn't have everyone losing their minds over stupid shit. since when did everyone become such special snowflakes? this game was never good. anyone who saw it in beta and had half a brain coulda told yall that.
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>>385292504
>dive comp invalidates 90% of the roster
>winston is broken
>d.va

can someone explain what this means? Haven't played in a while, I thought winston was not only trash but that he didn't get any buffs or nerfs recently. last i heard was the roadhog nerf.
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If this game had limited ammo, people would be forced to play smarter with and and fuckoff once in a while.

It's hard to retake a captured point because the other team has the ability to just spam constantly from across the map.
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>>385292812
"I played different games, so my opinions are valid and yours are wrong"

Kill yourself
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>>385290092
This and total mayhem are the sole reasons I still play.
I love goofy dumb fun
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>>385292831
Doesn't even matter. Dive comp will be dead by next season.
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>>385292831
I find it especially strange that people are saying Reaper is useless even though he can practically solo an entire dive thanks to his passive healing
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winston himself isn't broken his barrier and tickle damage just really, really helps disrupt the team for genji and tracers to dive in

it's why the dive counter koreans and chinese use now is all damage, reaper, torb, and junk, just so they can down the barrier asap
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>>385292812
Both Quake 3 and Unreal Tournament are garbage and not worth playing in 2017.
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>>385292831
The only change to Winston is that his shield's cooldown starts once you drop it instead of once it breaks.
So bananas just jumps in with D.Va, she eats everything while he rapes the backline, then once the healers are dead or she runs out of her matrix they hop back out.
The only way to stop that would be mei or sym, but they're shit in almost every other situation outside of those 5 seconds so the other team counters by doing the same shit.

Boring to watch, even more boring to play.
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>>385292451
If you can't get away from a Reaper as Winston you should give up videogames alltogether
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>>385292503
escpaing the mortal coil was while worth having a loli shove a rusty nail up my urethra
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>>385293256
They look bad but mechanically they are still strong.
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>>385293607
take off your fucking rose tinted glasses grandpa those games play shit you're just being contrarian
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>>385293607
>mechanically

Lots, lots of people hate the movement in those games and for good reason, it serves a very specific playstyle that is kinda autistic in practise.
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Loving this tick rate playing as Tracer. The times I'm shot after teleporting because I wasn't moving on their screen. Guess I need to start blinking way early.
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I won't mind quickplay if every fucking game didn't have a shitty widow and hanzo.
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>>385294431
Hanzo, Genji, Widow. Enjoy your 3v3 game with random stage hazard dragons, constant damage and wall hacks.
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>>385287080
They changed how vertical it goes
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Dive meta is the worst fucking meta this game has had and Jeff defending it shows how little he understands the fucking game. Seriously what the fuck is fun about being jumped by Winston, Tracer, Lucio, Genji and now Doomfist all at once popping ultimates?
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>>385293719
I guess I really shouldn't bring up Tribes then. ;)

I'll go back to trying not to pull my back out while chasing kids off the lawn. Have fun with your unsatisfying gameplay.
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>the moment something goes wrong we throw: the community

Game is filled with a bunch of sissy fuck boi's that can't deal with a competitive environment with the least bit of class.
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>favorite characters are tracer and pharah
>because of dive meta, now I won't get flamed and memed into oblivion for picking "off-meta" heroes
>gm and top 500 past two seasons
The meta is stupid anyways for 90 % of the playerbase because they are not even good enough for it to matter. Platinum is worse than diamond and gm in that regard.
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I only play during events and even then only if there's a skin for a character I like. I essentially skipped the CNY event because fuck those creepy skins.
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>game's cast consists almost entirely of bland waifufag and husbandofag bait
With the exception of Zenyatta, everyone is fucking boring.
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>>385274839
>Are you going to quit the game, or have already quit the game?

Truth be told. I'm just spoiled.
Is there an event with drops I want? Sure I'll play the weekly arcade and get my 3 boxes.

But I won't even play if there isn't.
Game's not bad but feels like a waste of time if the rewards aren't there, I got other things to play.
I guess you can say it's stale too.
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>>385295732
creepy
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I'm shit at fps but I enjoy it in spurts. Whish they let you choose what game mode you want to play in quickplay since I enjoy the one where both teams try to capture the most.
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>>385295867
shit forgot pic lol. mercy on the brain
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>>385274839
completely agree, the game has been genji and the hitscans forever, i played at a fairly high level, if you want to climb you play soldier+tracer+genji, everything else and you are just a witness
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>>385276708
To bad junks mobility is eaten by dva
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dick is DIAMOND HARD
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>>385274839
I wanted to go back to playing with the release of Doomfist, but then I heard he was nerfed in the first week of PTR. FIRST FUCKING WEEK OF PTR. Because people who don't know how to play against him yet cry that he's totally OP, like every new fucking hero. Fuck.

Also, I had like 8 friends who played OW after I stopped around 4 months ago but now I very rarely see any of them play it. What the fuck happened?
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>>385274839
I remember getting shit on forever since I said Overwatch wasn't that good in Beta, Launch, or today. I don't get as much shit for saying it sucks today, but back then I got nothing but hate fucking everywhere I posted that.

It's good knowing I was right all along like usual
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>>385296732
no content
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After 900 hours of Overwatch I've had enough. I switched to Dirty Bomb and I my only regret is that I haven't done so sooner. Overwatch seems so bland by comparision. You don't feel like you're being held hostage by your own team.
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>>385296976
>After 900 hours
Sounds like you got well your money's worth out of OW
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I quit when they nerfed Mccree to please the reddit shitters
Went back to TF2 and having a lot fun
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>>385279007

Does this mean you can report people for being bad at the game?

>negatively impacting the experience of other players on the team
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>>385296976
Is dirty bomb a meme? Why is it always brought up related to overwatch? I played it, and it was 2000 times as cash shop-y.
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It's because the game becomes so stale. Just the same maps, doing the same route, EVERYBODY GET ON THE FUCKING POINT every map it's just tiring. Can't even be competitive without autistic screeching about every little move you make.

They give you all these characters with unique abilities but gameplay that revolves around the same shit, same few characters.
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>>385297486
>Can't even be competitive without autistic screeching about every little move you make.
Welcome to videogaming and elitism
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>>385297481
Same with PubG, it's being shilled here in respond to the slight waning of Overwatch, but it will have paid keys and shit and it's STILL in early access.
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>>385279365
>Implying brode isnt a loud alpha fuck
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>>385296569
those are street shittin shorts nigga
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>>385274839
I quit after the first Roadhog nerf. Not only was he my main, but people failed to realize that he was the only character keeping the Hitscans, genjis and divers at bay and holding the game back from becoming just a shootout clown fiesta
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>>385279007
Holy shit THANK YOU Blizz.

And fuck anyone who defends that shit in comp. Quick play exists for a fucking reason.
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>Went from bans and penalties from reports were non existant
>to people getting banned left right and center for 2+ years for as little as swearing on mic
Is jeph going suicidal? Did metzen shake him down or something?
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>>385290858
Then climb retard, it's not hard to outaim silvers.
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>>385281627
Can we all agree DotA is actually the best?
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>>385274839

>some LITERAL WHO shits on a massively popular game and thinks his dumb opinions matter
>better make a /v/ thread

truly the rectum of the Internet
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Who all here has been watching the overwatch World Cup? What teams are you rooting for? Favorite matches thus far? Let's talk
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I'm going to be real, how the fuck do I teach myself to calm down in these types of games? I get pissy and tend to shit on the enemy on chat in Overwatch and I feel like I could be in the sights of the new system when they turn it on.

I know shit talking in competition is sorta natural but I really want to be able to get competitive as fuck and not turn into a bitch. I guess my only real option is to get more discipline somehow. Like probably at least every other match I'll end up swearing at least once.
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>>385297868
No, it's just toxic players autistic screeching at one another as LoL RAKES in their money pie kek-ing like the Jews that they are.
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>>385297868
Played Dota until TI4 and quit, the game got boring from there, now I heard there's skill trees 'n' shit but I can't judge, I ain't installin' the game again. I sold off all of my dota stuff for pure cash monies.
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>>385274839
Reminder on Blizzards balancing policies
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>>385292504
>dive comp is used by top 0.5% of players

and suddenly, anything you have written doesn't mean shit
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>>385298028
Stop caring, let people talk and let shit happen. Or at least only chat if it's informative in match. All else is bull shit that everybody is spewing to get players tilted.
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>>385282130
It might be automatic. There was an (old) symetra main that wouldn't stop playing her that got banned for enough people reporting him, he submitted a ticket and got the banned removed.
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>>385298134
Let me guess, you always played the same role, always in the same way, mostly with a single character
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>>385279007
I stopped playing months ago but I'm gonna try to get one of these bans now. I wonder if I should go with Torb, Widowmaker, Hanzo, or Roadhog
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>>385298313
I played during a time where picking one hero and "maining" it was discriminated against and would make you be called a lolbabby, so no I didn't.
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>>385279007
How dare you want to have fun in the video game you paid money for, B&!
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>>385298487

You either have 1 person having fun, or the rest of the team having fun. Easy choice.
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>>385298104
Yes but its actually balanced and the devs dont force you into anything.
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>>385298528
Maybe they should actually balance the game instead of basically giving up and just admitting that a hero is useless.
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the game is so outdated every patch that it's impossible to watch old youtube videos of competitions to try and get better at the game because it was an entirely different game 6 months ago compared to now.

Sure some games see updates but Overwatch's entire gameplay mechanics change so dramatically that it's almost like watching a World Cup game from 8 months ago doesn't mean anything. From ana's nano boost speed nerf, mcree's damage fall off, genji's 8 second ult being nerfed. none of that even matters anymore.

Think of it like when amateur football players watch highlight clips of old football games to get better.. You can't do that with overwatch.

I love this game. But this is how I see it.

The biggest thing for me is how it must feel seeing a new player watch an older video and notice how roadhog kills every player he hooks, and now, the new player is like "how come i cant do that"
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>>385279007
>people are acting like this game was banned for life or something
All the niger can't do is talk for a few days, I don't get it. In fact that the point of it was silence gives me the thought that he might of been doing the opposite, I.E. a widow that keeps telling other to switch to support.
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>>385298134
I actually like the skill trees. Some of the choices made are really interresting and I dont miss leveling stats because of how boring it was. I remeber that leveling stats was better on Sven and Jugger then leveling their skills wich felt lame.
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>>385278498
Shout-out to my boy
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>>385298675

Not every hero is useful in every situations, yet shitters pick them nevertheless. You wanna pick comp, then git gud, instead of doing shit like this. GJ, Blizzard
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Roadhog was the most balanced character. Why did the dev team have to listen to the all the whiny ass mercy mains?
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>>385275724
>blizzard balance
very true
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>>385283424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hqWRcPPT9s
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>>385279287
Did you even read it nigger? He was playing windowlicker
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>>385298854
Because healsluts are the loudest of autists, these are the same faggots who make "you don't you thank your healer?" threads.
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i've played whatever the fuck i want in comp for like 3 months now, never heard somethng from blizz despite people constantly "reporting" me
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>>385298723
>it's impossible to watch old youtube videos of competitions to try and get better at the game because it was an entirely different game 6 months ago compared to now.

what do you have, fucking Sharingan? wanna get better, fucking play the game, shitlord. also, with how popular OW is, you can just watch any of the videos made 2 days ago. So yeah, nice non-complaint, faggot

Also, nice reddit spacing, fag
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>>385298723

i've played with that guy before

huge faggot who's really bad
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>>385289564
Do you? I definitely played it a lot due to friends but I fucking hate almost everything about it now.
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>>385299016
haha yeah. he was god awful. im pretty sure these people share their accounts. but my statement still stands
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>>385297953
>>385298980
Blizzard shills are really easy to spot
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>>385298930
Related
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I fucking hate that people who solo and flank exclusively have to be so loud and heard by blizzard. They flank alone, get fucked by a roadhog or similar anti-flanker and go cry in the forums about anti-flankers being OP. Anti-flankers are then nerfed because Blizzard caters to the loudest whiners.
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>>385298980
I'm top 500 you fucking plat tier pleb.

gg ez
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>>385299086
But roadhog is getting buffe you retard
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>>385299078
what the fuck is this
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>>385298980
>watch a video made 2 days ago

you realize there are over 700 million youtube videos of overwatch made right.

>implying a video made 2 days ago from now wont be null in 3 weeks

kek
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>>385299065

>shills
>plural
Both me, desu
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>>385299193
Demographics
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>>385274839
>and no matter how many blind fanboys and "yes-men" down vote this post, it won't change the facts.
This kind of statement is so fucking stupid.

The post is obviously going to get downvoted because it's not actually giving any meaningful criticism, it's just complaining about the current state of the game and claiming it's due to specific staff members. Of course it's going to be downvoted because you're adding nothing to the fucking discussion, but then by saying this you're feeding your own ego because when it is downvoted, you can suck yourself off and say "See, I was right.".
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>Be bad at game
>Play only quickplay
>Everyone else is bad at the game
>Have fun with whatever character I want
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>>385299138

>I'm top 500 you fucking plat tier pleb.
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>>385299261
????
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>>385299152
what is it this time? +10 hp?
Can't wait until next patch where his hook range and hitbox gets reduced by 50% and his primary fire damage reduced by 30. But it's okay because he got buffed recently
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>>385279007
>silenced
So muted? What'd be the point in that?
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It's frustrating because the community and players are asscheeks and it's impossible to win most games without strict adherence to the meta because the game is so poorly balanced there's little to no room for improvisation and personal skill to carry a team through.

That clashes with the ultra casual sheep who autopick shit like genji or torb every round and go "i don't care about winning I just want to play my character".

Vanilla TF2 was the last good team shooter and there probably won't be another good one until valve does TF3 which will never happen because TF2 just makes them jew hat money all the fucking time for free.
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>>385299356
No
He gets 50% dmg recieved when using the heal
Also he can move at full speed while healing
It's pretty fucking good, probably OP
Blizz's retarded way of balancing
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>>385299337
Association fallacy more exactly.
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>>385299389
>be anything but extremely good
>can't carry your team
>be extremely good
>can barely carry your team if you spend half the game falling back to heal at packs
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>>385299250
>you realize there are over 700 million youtube videos of overwatch made right.

Yes, and you are supposed to watch the newest ones for newest tips. Glad I could have helped

>implying a video made 2 days ago from now wont be null in 3 weeks

Gee whiz, then maybe, I dunno, in 3 weeks of time, WATCH A VIDEO MADE 2 DAYS FROM THAT POINT OF TIME, NOT 2 DAYS FROM NOW?
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>>385298852
having a versatile skill set is the key to being good at a game like overwatch, but you're naive if you think that's what overwatch is actually about

what you mean to say is: "don't pick anyone except for tracer, soldier, monkey, d.va, genji, zen, ana, pharah, mercy, mcree"

if someone was dumpstering the enemy as a dumb hero like junkrat or torbjorn you'd still shit on them and probably report them whether you win or lose. go play a few games as nothing but an off meta hero like widow or torb and count the amount of shitters who say "if only we had a real dps instead of ___, then the enemy team wouldn't be fucking me so hard"

fact is people just throw bitchfits and give up the second they find a scapegoat.

>we have a widow, gg. <switches to torb and emotes in spawn>
>reports you for griefing and a week later you're bot banned
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>>385274839

>Nerfed Zarya to 40% charge
>Nerfed ana down to mid-card
>Gimped bastion being useful from 10 meters away
>Nerfed orisa when she was already bad
>Nerfed roadhog into the ground so hard he is literally more of a free feed for the enemy than he is a tank or a flank-eater
>Going to "buff" Hog by letting him walk while healing, giving more free ult to the enemies team as roadhog won't die but can get picks.
>BUFF FUCKING WINSTON
>Tweeked Lucio to make deathball and dive God tier strats that can't be countered

It's becoming hard to know where they are going with these changes. Only charactets who's kits are near perfectly balanced are Zen Reinhardt, widow, and pharah.
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>>385299430
That's a nerf bro. You could always run, jump and start healing, which comes close to moving full speed while healing. At least better than full immobilization. Now you just get annihilated if you heal at sub 50% hp.
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>>385299337
it's the reason why you need to get your tetanus shots, fool
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>>385299337
Autism
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>>385298897
I rememeber this comic being much higher quality
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>>385278954
>my main is going to become meta
Bueno
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>>385299489
>what you mean to say is: "don't pick anyone except for tracer, soldier, monkey, d.va, genji, zen, ana, pharah, mercy, mcree"

Uhm, no, I mean don't pick Torbjorn on king of the hill.

And even if you do pick him, if you handle team coms correctly and play him well, your team won't mind. I've seen plenty of gamess when team went from 'holy shit why do we have X?????' to 'You are good X' in the span of a single game. It's only faggot that insta-lock Hanzo, don't communicate with team and keep dying that get messages like that.

Also
>ana, mcree
what fucking Overwatch decade are you living in, fag? Why should I even take your shit seriously if this is the extent of your Overwatch knowledge?
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>>385285117
because arena shooters have been giving an aura of "its bad because its old"
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>>385286160
Problem is you cant easily draw the line between throwing on purpose and playing bad.

Is picking a suboptimal character throwing? Some people would say yes, some not.

If you really wanted to throw a game you could easily just play bad on purpose like missing your ult or smth and no one would even noticed and you cannot get reported for bad play either.
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>>385295056
it's literally only fun for the people doing the diving

if you play backline heroes or less mobile heroes like zen/ana/mcree/rein, etc then you literally just get fucked while your teammates attempt to do their own dive. the most retarded thing about dive is that it's optimal on both attack and defense, so koth maps are basically just banging your heads together while your supports get booty plundered
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>>385299634
This
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>>385299849
>Problem is you cant easily draw the line between throwing on purpose and playing bad.

When a guy is playing Soldier, starts bitching on chat and voice-chat and then goes Mei and starts building walls on sprawn exit, I'm pretty sure he is throwing.

Also, there is rarely 'subtle' throwing, because people throw when they are enraged, this isn't planned decision so I doubt someone will be throwing by 'playing poorly', he will be throwing by letting entire team know
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>>385299741
nobody complains about ana and mcree. show me a single game where someone says "we don't need ana" or "mcree please switch". the only place I can imagine that happening is on console.

the game is going to stay boring until the meta opens up to more interesting comps instead of just dive-dive-dive. it's the only thing people talk about anymore and it's the only ez-win strategy. some heroes like sombra and maybe doomfist can open it up a bit, but right now it's just shit propelled by shitters who think every loss is caused by their teammates and never themselves.
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>>385300280
>
https://twitter.com/Bacontotem/status/804213663481499648/photo/1

I like to imagine low bronze is full of people TRYING to lose, it's like that episode of south park where they play baseball.
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>>385300280
>When a guy is playing Soldier, starts bitching on chat and voice-chat and then goes Mei and starts building walls on sprawn exit

Too bad they dont record voice chat.
Cant really punish for something when no evidence is left.

Picking mei a character in the game, shouldnt be grounds for throwing either.

Well the spraying walls thing makes it obvious though.
But what if someone is angry and just decides to start playing mei, torb or widow, but without griefing with them?
Lets say he picks one of those and still tries to get kills, even though its way less effective than his previous choice, thats not really reportable throwing.
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>>385299525
uh i meant 50% less damage taken when healing
and jumping only gets you so far now, works alright if you can jump downhill somewhere but you'll still spend half the time getting headshotted
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>>385300859
people who wall off the spawn as Mei when they get salty is the equivalent of those people who team kill with the energy sword in halo

You dont really get mad, you're just disappointed at the inconvenience
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>>385291781
>he's good at thing A
>weak at thing B
>better give him something to be good at B too

No.
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Who is the most balanced character in this game and why is it Tracer?
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>>385300472
>mcree
When soldier is better?
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