How did snake beat him in universe?

>>385270674
Explained in the novel. He thought about Meryl and only Meryl, and while battling Mantis, he let his combat instincts take over and went on autopilot. Mantis can't read instincts.

>>385270785
That sounds incredibly stressful.

>>385270674
it's canon play MGS4
>>385270785
that's not canon play MGS4

>>385270674
Breaking the statue

He'll also only dodge 7 times, the 8th attack will hit him, making him have 8x more health if you don't do any of the tricks

>>385270785
Sounds like bullshit

he plugged his controller into port 2
campbell tells you in universe to plug your controller into port 2.

>>385271797
The weird thing is that. the broken 4th wall of that statement is actually legit.

i find that.... kinda awesome

He had sexual thoughts about Mantis, which creeped him out.

>>385271605
you like men

>>385270785
I actually like this explanation better than the official one from MGS4.

>>385271605
The metal gear story was written by retards, for retards. So it fits like a glove.

>>385270923

MGS4 isn't canon don't bother playing it.

>>385272072

what's the official explanation from MGS4?

>>385272167
Mantis's hymn is actually played in-game. Allowing for hypnotic suggestion to attain "mind control". Snake figured this out and was able to avoid it's effects due to being self aware.

>>385270674
>"You've got enough?" -- "Don't worry... Infinite ammo."
What did Solid Snake mean by this?

>>385272512
Holy shit. Got a youtube video that shows the explanation of this shit? Is this even explained out loud or is it in like a log or something like that?

>>385272578
It means Snake is a fan of the video game "Metal Gear Solid" for the Playstation 1, and he was jokingly making a reference to the unlockable bandana that allowed the player to have infinite ammunition for all their weapons once worn.

>>385272578
it wasn't real

>>385272690
Naomi mentions that she can hear it too in one of the optional codecs. It's presumed Snake figured out the trick from that.

>>385272743
>thatjustraisesmorequestions.avi
>>385272784
Can we be certain anything in MGS2 was real? The Tanker level was a simulation of the tanker level.

>>385272743
Shouldve said Pliskin, joke wouldve been better

>>385272884

>the tanker was you playing as raiden, playing a simulation of the tanker as solid snake

>>385273063
>Kojima appears on fire during Raiden's existential breakdown
>"Did yu rike it?"

I must be really fucking stupid, but why does everyone say that MGS2 is a simulation?

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>>385272979
But Pliskin wasn't in that scene. Snake said it.

>>385273221
Ah fuck it.
The joke was to imply someone though snake was dead in the tanker chapter. and pliskin was just avid fan who really wanted to be snake.

>>385273216
"Infinite ammo" and everything going completely fucking nuts at the end. Also advance VR missions are mentioned earlier in the game as prior to that all of Raiden's infiltration missions were VR.

>>385273221
That's Pliskin cosplaying Snake. He's a gamer.

Solid died on tanker.

>>385273608
ayyyy this guy gets it

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>>385270674

>>385273216
It's completely speculation, but given that Raiden repeatedly references being trained through in-game VR missions, the entire tanker chapter is a simulation, the entire section with Arsenal Gear is warped by existential breakdown induced hallucinations, and with the Patriots manipulating everything and using Raiden as a vector to try and communicate a manipulative message to the player: It's highly possible that Raiden, as an unreliable narrator, went through a simulation of the Big Shell incident and remembers the events of MGS2 completely wrong.

>>385273520
>>385273668
Ok so if this theory is true what the fuck happened inbetween MGS 2 and MGS 4?

>>385273739
Mgs4 fucked up mgs2's message

>>385273739
Snake began rapidly aging, Rosemary had that baby then paired off with Roy Campbell to confuse The Patriots, and Raiden snapped completely, rescuing Olga's based autistic child, and becoming a cyborg ninja to surpass Gray Fox. What is real about MGS2 and what is not isn't exactly clear.
>but continuity and meta-lore
Every new installment in the Solid series does this, but... This: >>385273851

>>385273221
Totally off topic, but does anybody know what font is that? I mean, the name of the font used to write the subtitles of mgs2

>>385273608
DEEPEST LORE

>>385274038
How did Raiden become a cyborg ninja with a overpowered sword anyway?

>>385273520

i always assumed that campbell goes crazy at the end because he's just an ai running on gw and you just installed a virus

>>385273851
>MGS4
>not MGSV
hello, contrarian

>>385273221
>Yfw Snake has the MGS1 bandanna, which doesn't require reloading

>>385276251
mgsv didnt have anything to do with mgs2 though, infact it takes place before mgs2

>>385274429
Patriots kidnapped him

So do people actually take all this shit seriously and try to keep it straight? It's always seemed like neat set pieces, character ideas and bullshit from the half cocked mind of a guy who makes it up as he goes along to me.

I honestly stopped trying to make sense of it all and just enjoy the ride around 3.

>>385270785
That is so not how a brain works.

>>385276895

>take it seriously
no
>keep it straight
well its easy enough to remember the plot details/whats happened. Even though some things are stupid you can make sense of what is happening in universe, just suspend your disbelief

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>>385271797
This. OP is dumb.
>>385271963
>Plug into port 2
>Put penis in asshole
Makes sense.

In-universe, the Metal Gear universe takes place in a video game. They break the 4th wall, but not for laughs. The characters know they're in a video game but still care about the stakes.