Why did Japan stop making turn based JRPG's that are actually

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>JRPGs in the past
>not terrible designs and overly-kawaii autism

>>385242383
Are you retarded?

>>385242459
are you? name literally any period of time where japan didn't make JRPGs that make you cring with their terrible designs and overly-kawaii autism

>>385241521
SMT is getting two games. If you really want a brutal JRPG, play Wizardry clones.

>>385242640
Jesus christ you idiot, I never said they didn't make those games in the past.

>>385242737
then what are you complaining about exactly? nothing's changed

>>385242794
learn to fucking read before piping up with your stupid fucking thoughts you little cunt

>>385242913
why don't you learn to not be so braindead? you're literally bitching about a problem that doesn't exist

>>385243108
>literally unable to comprehend a simple point that's made abundantly clear in the first post
>still tries to take the intellectual high ground
just off yourself

>>385243202
>literally unable to comprehend a simple point that's made abundantly clear in the first post
why don't we break down your post, shall we?
>Why did Japan stop making turn based JRPG's that are actually cool and don't make you cringe with their terrible designs and overly-kawaii autism?
this implies either one of two things: that
A) JRPGs all used to be cool and not cringy, which was the implication I responded to and showed was untrue, or
B) japan used to make cool JRPGs as well as cringy ones, but now they only make cringy ones, which is also blatantly untrue
so, in conclusion, you're definitely mentally retarded and should seek help

>>385241521
Because you're a faggot nostalgia dumbfag

>>385243520
S T O P
P O S T I N G
Y O U
D U M B
F U C K

>>385243549
but I only started playing SMT this year, dumb nigger.

>>385242640
>name literally any period of time where japan didn't make JRPGs that make you cring with their terrible designs and overly-kawaii autism
The meiji period.

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I think this is a good JRPG design. Anyone else think so?

>>385242459
You got btfo kid.

>>385243520
>B) japan used to make cool JRPGs as well as cringy ones, but now they only make cringy ones, which is also blatantly untrue
name some turn based JRPG's from the past year that weren't disgusting manchild weeb shit

>>385243748
No tits, no buy.

>>385243754
L E A R N T O R E A D

>>385243662
So you're really 12, your terrible ignorance isn't a surprise then, OP.

>>385243571
not an argument

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>>385243571
>>385243847
Now that's true autism.

>>385243729
>he hasn't played Boshin War Panty Quest XII
scrub
>>385243761
i am setsuna
smt 4 apocalypse
i'm struggling to think of many other jrpgs that were released in the past year besides vita/3ds shovelware

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>>385241521
>eew, le cringe
I wish everyone who uses that buzzword to describe literally anything he/she doesn't like even in the slightest would die of cerebral thrombosis

>>385244082
Strange Journey Redux is coming up.

>>385244152

I personally roll my eyes, then look away and make grunt sound that sounds like Ueaungh, while pushing my teeth together and lifting my upper lip, when I encounter something in game I don't like.

Are you sure that's really better than cringe? It is more accurate, I'll tell you that much. Stop getting hung up on trivial things.

>>385244518
that's not out yet though, is it? so it doesn't technically count

>>385244152
I don't like the word either but seriously there is something about the digusting pandering anime neckbeard sensibilities that make me cringe like fuck

>>385244817
No but let's talk about it and save the thread, instead of going back and forth about autism and/or semantics.

>>385243856
what?

>>385244972
it's really better to just let this shit thread die before the OP post baits more people into starting another boring argument about "muh weebshit anything japanese is terrible hurr hurr hurr"

>>385244082
>smt 4 apocalypse
Lots of weeb shit in it, even compared to IV.

>>385245272
like what

>>385244082
>i am setsuna
this was pretty fucking generic

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>>385241521

they were always shit. you just didn't realize it cuz your balls hadn't dropped.

>>385245272
this

apocalypse was a cringefest. see pic.

>>385245778
he didn't ask for good games

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>>385241521
Nocturne is trash

>>385245980
you're trash

>>385245838
maybe but they at the very least were interesting and had good presentation, now it's just pathetic autismal meme weeb kawaii moe shit

>>385246149
>very least were interesting and had good presentation

name these interesting and good presentation JRPGs? I bet you they (most) aren't interesting.

>>385246491
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
Wizardry: Tales of the Forsaken Land

now let's see you disagree just because i insulted your kawaii shit

>>385246689

2 games out of 100s.
Shit genre confirmed.

>>385246932
yes it is a shit genre but it wouldn't be if the people making it weren't autistic japs pandering to other autistic japs.

>>385247221
>jrpgs would be a good genre as long as they weren't jrpgs
yeah okay thanks for sharing your valuable opinion buddy

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>>385241521
I dont know but the same thing happened to anime

>>385247297
there's no code saying that turn based JRPGs have to be made by -autistic- japs with -autistic- sensibilities.

i know it's not turn based but that tales of berseria game made me sick

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>>385247368
animator is a real nigga

>>385247368
No it didn't.

>>385247761
yeah ok lol

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>because of normalfag Americans with more money than sense we're going to stop getting Japanese character design archetypes in Japanese media
Thanks, burgers. Really showed those virgin otaku neckbeards.

>>385241521
persona series is one of the most embarrassing game franchises in the entire world, i don't know why threads for it are even allowed here. SMT is far superior.

>>385248195
thank god

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ITT pic related

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>>385247221

that's the definition of a JRPG.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sglKS-HfZMw

@15:00

tl;dw
>Japs saw original CRPGs from PC.
>Streamlined gameplay for console
>Gutted (western) art style and themes
>Replaced with manga (kids) story and art work
>Dragon Quest was born, 1st JRPG

The entire premise behind a JRPG is to tell a mange/anime story targeted at Japanese children and teenagers. They can't make serious games even if they wanted because their fans want the cringe

>The development team explained that their previous game, Vagrant Story, which featured a "strong man in his prime" as the protagonist had been unsuccessful and unpopular; the change regarding Final Fantasy XII from a "big and tough" protagonist to a younger, youthful one was thus decided after targeting demographics were considered

>>385248361
anime =/= kawaii moe meme shit, post anime all you like but don't expect me to not get pissed off by your low test faggot shit

>>385248376
shan't be reading this

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If you don't like Japanese visual tropes. Don't play Japanese games.

>>385241521
You're looking for western dungeon crawlers
You know, from the people who originally does them right, which is not Japs

>>385248514
SMT: nocturne is full of jap design tropes though.

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>>385241521
they're not profitable. just look at how much persona sells compared to smt. games need mass market appeal these days

>>385248721
the fact that persona sells that much is honestly scary, since persona is played primarily by gigantic losers who got bullied in high school, who use the game as a surrogate friend/relationship replacement as they try to have the special high school experience they never had.

>>385248870
Why is that scary? Do you lose sleep over that or something?

>>385248721
how the hell do they sell that much, are people really that desperate for self-insert high school sims? I tried playing persona 4 and it was just kind of tedious to me.

>>385244152

It's slowly getting up there with 'creepy' and 'gross'.

>>385248956
because it means the number of worthless manchild losers in the world is increasing at an alarming rate

>>385249089
Sure, if you measure a person's worth by the video games they play...

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>>385248870
>All these fucked up conjectures
So by your logic, everyone who plays a first person shooters is a potential mass murderer?

>>385248870
I played it as a dungeon diver and generally only did the slinks to get better personas and more characterization.

Xenoblade Chronicles and XCX are both somewhat recent examples of great jrpgs anon

Better than smt4 in all honesty

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Why does Shin Megami Tensei have the best memes? No other franchise can compete.

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>>385249154
well, I've been on /v/ for 13 years this october, so yeah, I do. That's also why I don't interact with people who are vocal about playing CoD, Halo, Gears of War, Asscreed, etc. Keep your casual tastes to yourself.

>>385249268
I keep dropping xenoblade but I'm determined to finish it eventually. I'll work on my ps1 backlog first.

>>385249424
It was hard for me to get into at first but when it did I just loved it

XCX has a terrible story and characters but some of the best jrpg gameplay I've ever played. It has issues with some content basically being locked behind online content but I've never enjoyed grinding in a jrpg as much as I did playing that

>>385241521
don play jap games retard

>>385249386
>I've been on /v/ for 13 years
Yeah it shows, all the constant stupidity has rubbed off on you over the years.

>>385249386
>Look guys i'm an originalfag!!!
Who do you think us going to buy that bullshit?
2004 4chin was flooded by anime shit like tohou.

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>>385249283
No idea, it just is.

>>385249637
I just spent too much time doing shitty sidequests on the bionis leg. People have told me to just ignore most sidequests because it's just mmo fetchquest bullshit, but I keep getting worried I'll skip one of the good ones.

>>385249758

I bet Lucifer gives a great handjob with that Walter arm.

>>385241521
>Nocturne
>only known for its rerelease and making Cozy quit
>Good
While aesthetic is good, IVA is a mechanically better RPG. Need to mesh both in the new SMT

>>385250073
>implying Nocturne isn't known for ONE MORE GOD REJECTED

c'mon dude. it's a meme song.

>>385249837
Just look them up, I did the same thing

Most are safe to miss unless you really want the other affinity trees but the only one you really need is Sevens 4th tree to make her good and that's only if you use them. Theirs is also coincidentally the easiest tree to get so that's really all you need

I did most of the side quests until close to the end where I just rushed because it is mmo bullshit but it's still enjoyable

Xcx is even more mmo bullshit but with better gameolay and tons of QoL features to make it better

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>>385241521
Because no one likes tha shit

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>>385249283

>>385250073
nigger nocturne is great

it's even better when emulated in Pcsx2 and you remove the FPS limit so everything is twice as fast, I did that by accident and assumed it was a style choice by the devs and it worked so well, turns the game into some punk-rock experimental work and the pervasive static in the background actually fits

also this song is GOAT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWcNY1G5p6c

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>>385246149
>now it's just pathetic autismal meme weeb kawaii moe shit
>now
This is a JRPG/visual novel series from 1991.

>>385250529
Your point?

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>>385249386
Post some proof of sort that you have been on this anime website for 13 years without sperging how much you hate anime.

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>>385241521
>turn based combat
>cool

>>385250529
Look man, tell me right now to my face that current jrpg releases are anything close to a year like 1998.

>>385242913
>>385241521

>Why did Japan stop making
Learn to read your own post, retard

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>>385250594
he probably means to say that JRPGs were pathetic autismal meme weeb kawaii moe shit as early as 1991.

>>385250707
why? you will just say it's shopped or i got it off KYM or something. i'm not gonna get bothered by some anonymous person not believing me.

>>385250763
what?

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>>385250761

>>385241521
But Persona 5 is way better than that dumb game faggot

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>>385250874
>as early as 1991.
As early as 1989, actually.

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>>385250269
>not embracing the future
Cute demons chicks. Granted that already exists so it just continues while everything else waivers

>>385250874
yeah i dunno why weebs always do that, as if anyone thinks there wasn't.

>>385250958
>now

>>385247368
me on the right

>>385250958
Is resonance of fate any good? I impulse bought it after seeing that one cutscene.

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>>385247368
Anime's been stuck in moeshit hell since the early 90s.

>>385251214
No, it's kind of a meme game

It's not bad but the plot is practically non existent but the combat is the focus and if you don't like it, that's the entire game

I thought the gameplay was wonky as fuck so I didn't like it

>>385251315
>he hates tenchi muyo and ah my goddess but likes nausicaa
stopped reading there, what a pleb

>>385250958
Neither of these pictures reflect 1998. Are you literate or do you just blindly respond to yous.

Also it's pretty telling that some of those "now" games are like 10 years old.

>>385251214
Story is weird, combats are pretty repetitive but enjoyable, one of the few Jrpgs where they didn't end up boring me

Are Americans the ones always complaining about anime ?
I wasn't here when the flags happened,

>>385251141

Wait, does DJ is going to get new zones?

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>>385250761
>Look man, tell me right now to my face that current jrpg releases are anything close to a year like 1998.

Implying FF7, FF8 and Xenogears weren't weebo shit.

>>385251315
And people say anime got worse.
>>385251605
I heard there was a new dungeon added. Not sure if just the one or more. Been seeing this background back with PV2 on the 9th.

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>>385251569
Yes, they are also the same people who keep making jokes about nuking japan a third time on the internet. They hate anime on the same level of how satan hates god or how feminists hate white males. I've never found ANYONE that hates anime just as much from my same country.

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>>385251315
>Robotech, of course

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>>385251315
there is literally nothing wrong with 90s moe

>>385251674
That still leaves Suikoden2 SaGa Frontier Brigandine Vanguard Bandits Star Ocean 2 Jade Cocoon and Legend of Legaia.

Also those games weren't weebo shit.

>>385251569
but the only people ITT complaining about anime are rightfully complaining specifically about the formulaic moe trash that's all entirely interchangeable

>>385252052
That is terrifying.

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>>385252148
You seem to have a very fucked up definition of "weeaboo".
By what you said until now, you consider only moe aesthetics the characteristic that, in your book, something is "weeb" or not.

>>385252162
>rightfully
Pick a better word here, anime is not made for outsiders, anime is made for otaku mostly
Stick to CN or nickelodeon cartoons, which for some reason stopped being good, a shame to be honest

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>>385252052
great to find out if she's the one, too.

>>385252554
Sorry I just jumped in with the 1998 comment. I wasn't the guy you were talking to before.

>>385252630
but shows like devilman were not full of moe bullshit, idiot.
>Stick to CN or nickelodeon cartoons
what?

>>385252148
All japanese games are weebo shit

>>385252148

All those games are weebo shit

Star Ocean
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwg8gBqfaBU

>for the sake of the galexy and to avenge my father, I will slay you.
Legend of Legaia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9nfmsBsApo

> please be human again

these games were all shit.

>>385252834
dmc3 is better than your favourite game. Hands down.

>>385252927
Nah you're just underage as fuck. Probably enjoy Skyrim.

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>>385252148
I want another SaGa Frontier.

>>385253173
SaGa frontier 2 is pretty good. Any of the other SaGa series is pretty solid as well. It sucks frontier 1 was so unfinished.

>>385253009
>Nah you're just underage as fuck. Probably enjoy Skyrim.

how old were you when you played those games? 10? 15? maybe 20?

they were shit back then but you didn't realize it because you were underage. The tropes weren't cliche yet because they were fresh.

>>385253329
If a trope is driven into the ground over a period of time, that doesn't retroactively make it shitty.

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>>385253317
>empty rooms everywhere and cut routes
>I still played for 80 hours
it was magical.

>>385253009
All of those games are weeb as retards like to call japanese games nowadays

>>385253627
I don't care what retards call them. That's not what weeaboo meant when I started here so that's not what it means.

>>385253535
>If a trope is driven into the ground over a period of time, that doesn't retroactively make it shitty.

It's only retroactive for you because of your age. Someone older would have considered those games shitty even in 1998.

>>385241521
kill yourself

>>385253803
I don't think so. Most of them scored very well.

>>385253851
umm... no?

>>385254032
Just like FFXV Persona 5 score pretty well.

>>385254202
I don't recall saying those games are bad. But now we get like 1 or 2 every few years and we used to get quality like that all the time.

>>385241521
EO is as kawaii uguu as it gets and it's a lot better than Nocturne, it doesn't really bother me.

>>385254380
that's because you have low test

>>385247368
>Pencil pusher: We cant make what we want to make
>Animator who actually makes the anime: I like this stuff!
Really fires the synapses

>>385254689
But it's the writers that make the shit

>>385254350
>I don't recall saying those games are bad. But now we get like 1 or 2 every few years and we used to get quality like that all the time.

that's because those games suck and most people don't want to play jrpgs that

>make you cringe with their terrible designs and overly-kawaii autism

>>385254928
Xenogears has overly kawaii autism?

>>385241521
Because nobody likes sickdark games except autists like you.

>>385255949
actually everyone loves sickdark games, they pretty much always sell amazingly well

>>385255949
Also Tales of Berseria was primo sickdark and it was a huge offender of the shittiness that is weeb sensibilities

Because of this: https://youtu.be/C-SsMQMFq8c

>>385248721
>Linda Cube
Patrician taste, my cultured negro.

>>385244849
Persona 5 wasn't even that bad what the fuck are you on about.

>>385256610
where the fuck did i mention p5 nigger?