Looking to start this game tonight with my girlfriend. Could

The free trial has no time limit and you can go up to lvl 35 which means you can fight Ifrit and Titan in their weakest most basic forms
Read your skills tool tips
Low level sucks like all mmos
Early story and 2.1-2.3 story is bland, it gets better when the Garleans get in full swing in ARR and in the lead up and through Heavensward
Don't be the cliche healer and tank couple that dont know how to play, dps is more fun anyway
Dragoon is for cucks

What are the least punishing jobs that aren't SAM or RDM? It's too stressful and detrimental to progression when you make one mistake as BLM and lose 500 dps

I'm thinking MNK or BRD

>>385233115
bump for answer

So should I get stormblood or not?

>>385233115
just play rdm or sam you brainlet

If you wish to craft level all professions equally.
Never use Levequests for combat classes.

>>385233115
Ninja isn't too bad just keep up huton and make sure you use trick attack on the rear of the enemy and ur good to go. Mudras are kind of fun too.

>>385234903

Don't worry until you at least finish the quest "The Ultimate Weapon". That's the earliest for when you can get Red Mage and Samurai unlocked.

>>385233115
drk is the least punishing class in the game

>>385235034
>level all professions equally.
Maybe if you never have more than 300k gil because of your glamour addiction and/or is planning to level gatherers in the most autistic way possible.
Doing one by one is a lot easier and have a more efficient balance of time/leve/gil spent on it. Plus, having one class at 50 will give you access to moogle daily quests, so you will be able to level one class for free (no gil or leves) while you work on another one and let your leves recharge, and also access to recipes that you don't need to HQ to sell (so you can work in getting some cash for your next levespam adventure).
If you don't have money to invest on crafter leveling, it's better to not even bother with it. It's better to level a tank and get all rewards from playing it for a low but decent income.

>girlfriend
>ffxiv
how about you fuck off back to le reddit, kiddo

>>385233115
DRK.
Not they removed all penalties from fucking up in this job, you also don't even have to "stance dance" like other tanks, you can have both your tank and your DPS stance activated at the same time.

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Just get this version OP, its got the base game and both expansions. £33 on amazon atm.

>>385232243
https://youtu.be/EWgb-Jrk5tQ?t=17422
get your tissue box ready

>>385236819
>>385235545

I'd say PLD is easier. While DRK is way more forgiving now with no stance dancing and that Darkside can no longer fall off the lack of any hardly any resource management for PLD is smoother.

>>385237665
pld can have you fuck up requiescat window

the only thing you can possibly fuck up on DRK is running out of MP

So if I have the accessories and am undecided on which doggo I want, should I just drop Lakshmi and farm Susano exclusively?

>>385239802
Lakshmi is easier in my experience, or maybe there are too many shitters in Susano trying to get "muh glamour".

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>>385239387

Any FSH could help me with something?
What does Narure's Bounty exactly?
I was under the assuption that it would give you more chance to get bigger species of fish which would screw around your chance to get smaller fish, but someone told me that it just give you a chance to have a fish with a big size, which is better for collectable, same with Patience 2.

Who's right?

>>385233115

MNK is the most braindead easy job in the game, even easier than SAM, so go for that.

>>385243170
That's not RDM

>>385236819
>>385237665
Why do people keep saying this? DRK dropping Grit is basically the same amount of effort as changing stances as the other two tanks, and all DRKs should be dropping Grit once they get a lead on enmity just like the others. Their rotation is simpler sure, but its not got to do with stance dancing.

>>385244183
DRK's Grit gets far more benefits than other tank stances (more MP on Syphon Strike, HP drain on Souleater, more damage on Bloodspiller, no damage debuff if you keep Darkside on).

>>385244959
But surely it doesnt even out.

>>385233115
While SAM is very 'forgiving' with mistakes, it also has the highest skill ceilling in the game, so unless you're playing it properly, you're useless.

>>385245343
A SAM playing poorly still out parses most jobs at their best.

>>385236819
>ou also don't even have to "stance dance" like other tanks, you can have both your tank and your DPS stance activated at the same time.
this is bait

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I hate french so goddamn much.
And dark knights who don't use darkside in dungeons. They're usually french too.
Fuck you.

So I'm not sure I understand NIN, does it use a lot of different mudras regularly or is it more of a case of using 2 and ignore the rest?

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>been playing for a couple months
>haven't even done any HW EX primals
>mfw hovering over the button to join a Susano EX party

>>385248413
Except for Hyoton, all mudras are useful.

>>385248878
Join a learning party, it's not like PF is a "pro-only" territory.

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Finally got ACT and FFlogs uploader to work this week and decided to put my STR melding of RDM to the test:

First, some background: For people new to this theorycraft, it stems from here that a RDM with a STR melding will deal high damage. Parses on a dummy revealed that the average DPS for someone without STR melds is 50, whereas a DPS with someone with STR melds is approximately 121. How does this reflect in raid dps?

This isn't my perfect run, but I cleared O2S and I can start to see actual numbers

https://www.fflogs.com/reports/g1MYJnX9Rrmwdpc2#fight=9

The top samurai in our party (melee dps) successfully executed 225 auto attacks leading to 400,000 damage.

I managed to execute 113 auto attacks leading to 47,000 raid damage throughout the raid.
On the other hand, the other Red Mage in the party without STR Meld executed 91 auto attacks leading to 7,800 raid damage

In other words, my stats JUST from materia melding increase my raise damage by ~40,000 points.

I can improve this further by finding more ways to squeeze auto attacks, but we're seeing some EXTREMELY significant numbers here, and of course there's only higher numbers to go from here. I don't have the best rotation, but I aim to improve it.

I think this log shows hard numbers and shows there is indeed potential for STR Melding in red mages that know how to optimize autoattack management.

>>385249019
Okay good

how can people fuck up the mechanics in o2s, I mean seriously.

>Have to gather for like half an hour just to get mats for crafted items now

No wonder people bot this

>>385249197
Not sure if serious.jpg

>>385232243
Don't roll THM/Black Mage unless the idea of gambling whether your DPS drops or you do provides an erection.

>>385249796

Oh nooo you'd need to gather for a WHOLE THIRTY (30) MINUTES in order to craft something! You should only have to gather for 30 seconds to get stuff!

>>385239387
this is accurate

>>385245617
No it doesn't, not anywhere near. A SAM playing poorly is a waste of a party slot

>>385248878
Glance at a guide and watch a video, nobody is going to expect much from duty completion parties.

>>385251308
I don't even know what this means? What's considered a SAM playing poorly? Their rotation is literally 3 buttons and a finisher.

>>385239387
>WAR not being below retarded baby-tier
They couldn't even handle the most lenient stance dancing mechanic I've ever seen in my life.

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>>385249197
Of course it's fucking Noroi trying to find new ways to be retarded

>>385241474
Can someone please explain what these numbers/letters mean? New to FFXIV.

>>385251851
it's like arguing calling skyrim oblivion 2 or morrowind 3 when the best answer is arena 5

>>385251946
Fuck off.

>>385251851
It's a joke based on how people are fighting over what to call the omega raid.

O1S = Omega 1 Savage
V1S = Deltascape V 1.0 Savage
D1S = Deltascape 1 Savage
and so on

>>385252091
what? I'm not saying it was good
arena 4 > arena 3 > arena 5

>>385249197
U dumb

>>385252182
You're not funny. Fuck off.

>>385249197
what were the other RDM's melds, though?

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Name a worse class quest chain than PLD.
You can not.

>>385252274
suck my fuckin dick dude

>>385252150
>>385251851
Forgot to mention the punchline
Calling it A13 would mean that it's a follow up of Alexander which had 12 fight
And T26 would mean to calll all the raid base of ARR raids which were Turn 1 to 13

>>385252305
BRD 30-50

>>385252150
only retards say anything but v1s

>>385252325
Ladies first.

>>385251851
They refer to the raid Omega. The current tier is Deltascape, and each encounter is V1, V2, V3, and V4. People haven't 100 decided yet so those are what people have been calling them. The bottom 2 are shitposts based on the Heavensward and ARR high end raids, which are Alexander and Binding Coil of Bahamut, Turn X.

>>385252305
50-60 sucked for a majority of jobs, and 60-70 for PLD and DRG were, at least in my opinion, fairly good.

>>385252150
the books use v1.0 etc so I'd go with v1s

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>>385232243
>with my girlfriend.

Nothing worse than beta cucks and their landwhales in MMOs

Fucking hate these people

>>385252951
what is his face trying to convey?

is mch going to get fixed ever? its just so much cooler looking than bard

>>385253145
>he doesn't like firing off a laser light show

>i264 AST facerolling combust 2 and nothing else can do around 250 dps
>there ARE healers in savage doing sub 100 dps
this shit is why we lose to enrage desu

Do you think Stormblood's patches will be HW-tier, or will they be ARR-tier?

>>385252305
MNK 30-50 is pretty fucking stupid
>just run to place and learn moves because lolaether
>mhigger chimps out and tries to kill you then acts like he taught you everything you know when he didnt do shit

>>385253576
its gonna be so cringe when everyone will be wearing dyed versions of this set

>>385253065
Disgust

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>>385253576
NPC DATING FUCKING WHEN
YOU PROMISED IT TO US YOSHIDA
WHERE IS IT

>>385253675
ARR-tier aka god-tier, borderline lost my virginity orgasmic-tier.

>>385251536

You don't what it means because you don't even have SAM up at 70.

>>385253675
Worse.

We're now getting less dungeons to make room for more experimental shit like Verminion and Diadem.

Look at it this way, between now and February when 4.2 hits, you'll only get ONE dungeon to replace Kugane Castle, Ala Mhigo and Temple of the Fist.

>>385251536
Why don't you take that "3 buttons and a finisher" to endgame and find out? I guarantee you won't make it past 3k.

>>385253065
He saw what Chloe Grace Moretz turned into, that is literally the context of the photo

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>>385253997
B-But the story will be good, right? haha

>>385253997
it'll probably just replace Ala Mhigo so Expert Roulette is always 3 dungeons with a re-jiggered Main Scenario roulette to include Ala Mhigo and ARF

>>385254124
>playing FFXIV for the story
lol

>>385253997

>Working on even fewer dungeons per patch cycle
>Endgame is still nothing but savage and dungeon dailies

>>385254096
Why is she so tiny

>>385254292
4u

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>>385254165
>with a re-jiggered Main Scenario roulette to include Ala Mhigo and ARF

>>385253997

Why would you want more dungeons over experimental shit though for real. Every dungeon that's introduced outside of the MSQ is pretty much shoehorned in as hard as possible, with the mechanics and fights themselves needing to be babied to the lowest common denominator. PotD/Diadem/Feast/Aquapolis captured the general interest of the population for much longer than 1-2 more dungeons and that's why they're focusing on that.

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>>385254292
Because she is a crafted miniature.

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>>385254292

Wind up doll

>>385254417
>hate doing hunts
>need 500 marks for succubus minion
I'll do it, just for her

>>385253308
>this shit is why we lose to enrage desu
lol, if you need the healers to DPS before hitting enrage, you should check your goddamn DPS first.

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>>385253767
NEVER EVER

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>>385254467
Unfortunately there is no wind-up goddess, just her miniature.

>>385251180
Not everyone is a neet you know.

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>>385239387
>nin
>most difficult
good one

>>385254814

Tbh, if a healer isn't getting 1k+ dps, they should probably just uninstall because they're trash at the easiest role in the game.

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>>385254821

it hurts brehs

>>385254910

You're right anon. Take me for example. I literally cannot spend more than 5 minutes to accomplish anything in a videogame due to my busy schedule, thus why I like games like cookie clicker.

>OT'ing Susano EX
>lag during sword phase, so when I run through the orbs they don't trigger
I swear I'm not shit

>>385242102
I'm not 100% sure mind you but yeah it's mostly about the fish's weight and not the kind of fish you can get.
Keep in mind bigger weight means more chance at HQ.

tldr: I'm not even 100% sure but that's how I feel the skill works.

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>50/60 Roulette
>Lost city of Amdapor
>Amdapor Keep
>Lost city of Amdapor
>Amdapor Keep
>Lost city of Amdapor
>Amdapor Keep
STOP

>>385254910
>Playing video games for 30 minutes makes you a neet
There's the door, normalfag.

>>385255654
Thanks mate, I guess I'll use it more often now then.

>>385254382

Because it's not so they can release more (other content), it's so they get to release less content overall.

They have until 4.1 to release new experimental shit in order to even keep up with the pace that HW had for it (3.1 is when both Diadem AND LoV were released). So in theory either we're getting it earlier, or we're getting more of it.

My guess is it will be neither.

>>385255640
It could be worse.
I still get the occasional 90k disconnect at the worst possible times.

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>>385254910
>gets btfo
>n-neet

>>385255764
My Leveling roulette was The Aery for a week straight once.
Though I wouldn't mind getting AK as 50/60 Roulette, because it's an easy dungeon you can speed run even if you got scrubs in the party. I really dread super gated dungeons like Stone Vigil HM or Hullbreaker Isle HM

>>385254814
nobody even needs them to 99th percentile dps, but it's a fact that savage doesn't take healers that just stand there doing nothing. check your clears if you have any. the two healers were doing at least 1k combined there.

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>people getting so fucking autistic they don't tell anyone if Ixion spawned so the instance doesn't get filled

Just when I thought people couldn't get more retarded.

>doing fight
>someone fucks up
>"wipe"
>continue attacking for as long as i can to make my parse not look like shit
h-heh....

>>385256908
everyone in the group knows you're doing this

>>385256819
i purposely stay quiet to piss off fags like you that get angry about a mount

>hypercharge is now every 60s

there, i fixed mch

>>385257330

Sure you do buddy. I already have it but I just find it fucking pathetic to act like an autistic, piece shit over a pony with a dildo on its head.

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>>385255764
Anything is fucking better than keeper of the lake, I don't do 50-60 anymore just to be sure I never do it again.

>>385257574

You're both morons.

>>385257603
Why give her tits fucking ruined

>>385257574
calm down

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>Run said ex primals for a clear party in PF
>People clearly don't understand mechanics despite me thoroughly explaining the less obvious ones
>Calmly explain how a mechanic works without singling anyone out if someone dies to it/fucks it up
>Nobody listens. Ever.
>"lol its just a game dude xd stop being a tryhard XDD"
>Every time someone dies they rage and blame someone else
>Spend hours trying to get a clear
Meanwhile
>Run ex primals [DUTY FUCKING COMPLETE] in PF with maybe about a 5% wipe rate
>If I see people fucking up I'll explain how the mechanic works without singling them out since it's reasonable people might not fully understand a mechanic or pay attention to the wrong things at the wrong time despite a clear
>They don't repeat their mistakes
>No salt anywhere and clean runs

Jesus fucking christ this game should let me quiz people with multiple choice answers before they can join my party

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>>385257976

calmer than you are

>>385239387
I don't play the game but I'm thinking about starting.
What classes are these?

>>385258296
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/battle/

They're referred to as jobs as classes are what eventually evolve into jobs so you might confuse people mixing the terms up

>when no one wants to use the macro you made to assign people directions in o2s

It's so simple and doesn't require wasting time finding out who picked what.

>>385258097

>Wanting to quiz people with multiple choice shit for a videogame

Either get some friends or realize that, yes, you are a tryhard and they're right to call you one. It's just a game.

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>>385258296
>classes

They're called jobs in this game, buddy.

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>90% of gear has tenacity on it

i want off this ride guys

>>385258475
It's a farm party for endgame content you're EXPECTED to know, there's learning parties for a reason.
>On Susano how do you respond to the square marker?
>A. Run towards the party
>B. Stop moving/casting
>C. Run away from the party
>D. Turn away from the party
Is not unreasonable to ask. These would just be boxes you check in the PF interface, not actually talking to someone

>>385258501
There are classes too, pal.

>>385258615
Tenacity is meta now.

>play multiple jobs in the same role
>they have to share glams
When will they fix this shit

>>385252305
All of the MCH classquests were uninteresting

>>385258863

>Mock job interview in a videogame

You MMO players are a very broken lot.

>>385259247
This so much. Love how some of the crafter AF sets look but I'm stuck in terms of glamouring each individually.

>>385252951
While he's leveling her character she's out fucking chad.

>>385258863
that autism

>>385255896
Its not even blown out. Manually gathering is a huge waste of time when you consider the opportunity cost in just crafting it from purchased materials gained by bots.

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>>385254821
Gotta believe anon. Gotta believe...

>>385260017

And what's your point? Everybody knows this. It's how it SHOULD be. Crafters should always be making a profit on shit gatherers head out for. Otherwise, why even craft?

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WTF I love heavensward now
>his moveset is a carbon copy of Ifrit's
Nice.

>>385233115

BRD by far

>>385260275

>BRD
>Less punishing than MNK

No fucking way.

>>385259448
>>385259851
t. Shitter who wastes everyone's time

I'm going to be coming back to the game soon after not playing in a while. What's the best healslut class currently?

>>385260253
Well he is a BLU

>>385260421
MNK is "punishing" in an easy way
You can either save GL3 through FS/RoE, or you're forced to lose it, there's nothing difficult about saving stacks
Rest of the rotation is braindead as well

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>>385260539
How can he be a BLU if he uses Ifrit's moves? Does Raubahn have the echo?

>>385260429

>Playing the game is a waste of time unless I always win and get my items

You sure sound like you're having fun anon.

>>385260648
You can beat a primal without having Echo. There are actually more people in the story who have beaten primals without Echo than with it.

>>385239387

I want a braindead experience while I do spreadsheet shit for work. I mean absolutely retarded faceroll. Don't even have to look at the screen.

Is SMN for me?

>>385260763
Yes I sure love spending hours trying to clear one primal instead of 10 minutes because retards refuse to read guides, that's so much fun

Stormblood is already $30 on Amazon, it's barely been a month since release.

>>385260953
ebay has complete editions for $12
don't know if i'd trust them though

>>385260953
wow, a $10 discount

>>385260902

>Reading guides
>Gameplay is so boring that only the carrot at the end of the stick is the motivation
>People still play despite this

Were you abused as a child? Do you feel more comfortable with instability?

>>385260953
>tfw just ordered mine for right about that much
Should be here on Friday. Not sure if I'm going to go straight into stormblood, though. Might slut around for a while on balmung first.

>>385241474
>not 1.O

Come on now.

>>385260953

I got it for $30 off GMG fucking 2 weeks after release.

>>385260867

MNK probably has the highest netflix damage out of all dps. SMN if you're not watching aetherflow you pretty much do below tank dps if you mess up.

>>385241474
I call it OS1

>>385253716
I'm glad I leveled MNK late enough that I at least never even used his sweaty shirt

>>385260902
>reading guides when videos exist

>>385261109
Lol why would football teams want people who can play football?

>Job UI's weren't baked into preexisting mp/tp bars of jobs that do not utilize them

Fucking hack devs

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Why don't you have a Lost Allagan weapon yet?

Why did they have to make MCH so shit? The new WF feels shit, the heat thing is literally a 70 potency loss overall if you don't use it, you get to barely even use your new skills and both DPS and support are utter shit.

What was even the design idea behind all this?

>>385261324

>Comparing what he does to athletes

Please stop, you're embarrassing us.

>>385261467
Cute. I'd molest you.

>>385261467
God Lalafell look so shit. Doesn't help that they are the sole reason our character will never do anything cool in cutscenes.

>>385260865
>the summoners in the Immortal Flames that survived Ifrit with you
>one of them killed Titan as well

Where was this fuck when I was doing this as a sprout and watching everyone fall to the deaths?

>>385261467
picture would actually be impressive if you weren't the gender-less alien meme race

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>>385261369
>try to put job gauges over MP bar
>they just clip into the backgroup at random times

30 million well fucking spend.

>>385250882
Triple cast fixes this but makes all content pre 66 a drag.

>tfw fighting susanoo non ex

Wew lad what a fight I'm so used to old eno that I end my AF3 too early to quickly cast b4 and I realize what I have done.

>>385261467
because my group isnt retarded and gave our first two tomes to DPS who have to wait another week

>>385261585
Killing Ifrit, apparently. Having Titan means he's ex-Company of Heroes.
>Dancing Wolf
>Tristan
>the three Flames summoners
>the Roegadyn asshole who makes you put together your own dinner
>Landanel
>U'odh
>Brayflox
>Riol
>Gegereju's personal assistant lady
All killed primals without Echo. And the Company of Heroes members killed TWO.

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>>385261467
>tank first
Did you pay for your clear

>>385261474
Clearly the devs thought MCH was capable of some impressive personal DPS over BRD with their overheating gimmick thats ironically a dps loss.

>>385261698
>Midas
>our whiny cunt of a WHM insists on getting the drop so they can get more weapon damage and mind for healing, thus aiding survival in prog
>we all say whatever and let them have it
>"oh you need to buy 10 tokens with tomestones too? I've just been spending them on my secondary job. It's gonna be 3 weeks before I can use this"

Thank God WHM has been quarantined.

>>385261798
>Gegereju's personal assistant lady
Don't mince words anon, she's a cum sock
Even if they are literally capable of killing gods cats will always give in to their slut nature

>>385257603
I don't like keeper of the lake but at least it's pretty. Give me wanderers of ANY kind and I'm out.

>>385261901
>he doesnt know

>>385261526
>it doesn't count because I said it doesn't

>>385261369
>>385261640
Gotta wait for 4.1's new designs. Hopefully they be small enough.

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>>385261684
>Be trial BLM
>Don't even know what enochian is
>Entire life is spamming fire then transposing to ice and back again
They say it gets better, but...

>>385260235
A game should be reliant on bots in order to have a stable economy where otherwise you would have to sell your life away for a second job just to get into crafting?

>>385262103
BLM is one of those jobs that play nearly completely different at max level compared to lower levels.

>#10 ranked nin on server on fflogs
>hide all groups with AST
>now ranked #1

really makes you think

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>>385261526
Knew you sounded familiar

>>385236819
>you can have both your tank and DPS stance activated at the same time
Grit is a 20% dps loss, Darkside is an always-on mechanic, which is now useless since it no longer ticks MP away.

>>385241474
>Implying Coil was not the peak of the game

You know how you know Alexander was objectively crap as a whole? because is when the subs when from almost 3.1mil active players coming out of ARR to less than 300k subs by the time A12 came out.

Yet babies that started in HW will tell you otherwise, hell a lot of HW babies are disgusted by the format Omega is taking, 3 fights in and you already want to quit.

Also anti bump for shiling this already diying game, I never seeing a MMO empty so quickly after release, they just want to take your $50's guys, don't give in, is crap.

>>385244959
the 20% damage down cancels out the bloodspiller extra damage. It makes it about the same in or out of grit with dark arts.

>>385262171

No, a crafter should be able to buy items off the marketplace to craft a finished product and still make a profit.

The whole bots thing is simply because SE doesn't care to stop them. In their defense, I don't know of any large MMO that was able to stop them, either.

>>385262306
Your autism is maximum

>tfw get like 2 comms every dungeon as blm
>not even top dps all of the time
>AST feeds me balance and arrow constantly if they don't have royal road

Is my parser broken or am I tricking people because I cast fire 4 a lot. One thing I did notice as a tank previously was a lot of mages still don't cast these skills. I feel like shit and I think I made a drag leave since I was getting buffs over him.

>>385262387
Oh look, the anti 14 autist is awake early, did mummy make you a nice brekky

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>>385261798
>killing ifrit
You just triggered me holy shit I remember that site

>>385262330
still not sure why they didnt just make darkside passive to remove the hotbar "bloat" they were so worried about

>>385261851
My group paid me.

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mooncats are fucking awful

>>385262530
You have no argument so all you do is go "autism xd"

>>385262565
Actually doing aoe damage is comm worthy now, all the jump potion shitters and wowfugees only do single target damage and never use ogcds so a halfway competent dps will be swimming in comms now
I get more as a NIN than when I play DRK

>>385249197
Man, is sad how XIV players are trying to make their shallow classes less shallow, makes me feel sad that they never got to play XI.

>>385262387

But only 10% of the community even cares about savage in ARR. Why would a poor Alexander make for a 90% dropoff?

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>>385261467
>Why don't you have a Lost Allagan weapon yet?
Because it's a waste of 1000 tomes, so I bought my BiS body instead

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>>385262708

I still want to slide my throbbing, pre-cum dripping cock inside that

>>385262615
You still have to turn it off to regen MP, except it's not such complete shit to turn it off between pulls because you no longer lose an extra tick of MP after turning it on rendering you with crap fuck for MP anyways.

>>385262742
4chan equivalent of "le wrong generation"

>>385262770
It's that guy that throws shit fits about this game and only this game, he's obsessed with getting people to think it's failing
He probably got kicked out of some shitty /vg/ fc like ZR and is still ass pained over it

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>>385262739
I feel like I get the least comms tanking as well
Doesn't matter what you do, how much you pull, how much damage you do or how little damage you take
I can go WHM and mash Holy and rake in comms, or I can go NIN and usually get a couple

Maybe I'm actually a bad tank I don't know

>>385262103
It sucks until you have blizzard 3 and fire 3. Those are the key skills of a Blm and the only thing that stays the same at 70. Both of those skills automatically max your AF or UI to 3 and if used in the opposite state like blizzard 3 in af3 the cast time is really short making blm more dynamic but the class to me got REALLY fun when I got ley lines which is imo tied for best caster cd with presence of mind.

>>385262898
it no longer drains mp, you can keep it on the same way you can keep grit on

To add to OP's question, what's the most mindless (yet still useful enough to get picked) class in Raids?
Monks?

>>385263169
Drk

after all these years they still never fixed darksides appearance. it was supposed to be dark flames but all we got are red wavy lines.

>>385262963
Like I said, jump potions and wowfugees were mistake so really simple shit like a whm actually touching an attack spell instead of only curing every 20 seconds is above and beyond 95% of players

>>385263169
RDM

>>385259429
I thought the first one was pretty good

>>385263169
SAM or RDM. SAM will always preform well, same for RDM and their utility.

>>385263169
DRK or PLD.

Are RDM's fun?

>>385262770
You are looking at the numbers wrong.

10% of the player base raids constantly, while 31% attempts to raid, Coil served its purpose on keeping interest and attention even on players that were not doing the content.

Another example I can give you is how the Raiding community had to move to other servers to keep it alive, Excalibur became a dry apple when the second round of Alexander came around, the main raiding server, that just sad.

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>Die because healer fucked up
>Healer ress you with passive-agressive "stop dying" macro

>>385262963
I get most of my comms tanking, but then again, I actually fucking talk during dungeons and that seems to make you much more noticed than silent stoic tank #2509719051 speedrunning shit. I open with a hi, maybe comment on what's going on, explain shit if someone seems unclear.

Of course, I call out repeated stupidity too. People not watching Shinryu video, then ignoring my explanations on top of that not once, not twice, but 5 fucking attempts in a row and keep falling off the platform every single time. I said, "How some of you even managed to hit 70 in the first place, I'll never know" - Got called an asshole by the BRD (who fell off the platform immediately afterward, and then twice more after that), and 0 comms after the run finishes successfully. Not surprised, but hey, you can call me an asshole all you want when you're not facedown for 80% of the fight. Until then, kindly shut the fuck up and listen to what people try to tell you so you don't look as stupid.

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>>385262103
>be max level BLM
>draw my lines on the ground and explode harder than my dick in your mother's cunt
>oh fuck aoe on me i gotta sop dps'ing
>lmao you thought faggot, triplecast
>teleport right back to my lines and continue plowing that fat sow of a boss
>oh look a stack mechanic that I'm not expect to participate in
>AM to the party, Addle the boss to also mitigate damage
>teleport right back to my lines
>FUCKING FOUL TIME
>4k+ dps
>can't even see where the SMN and RDM dps are because they killed themselves after my 30k Foul Direct Crit

>>385262739
But the crazy thing is the the drg and in another instance Sam beat me in aoe dps. Fucking a drg and Sam on aoe dps is crazy especially if the drg has life of the dragon.

>>385263390

well at least its not personal and like that for everyone

>>385263387

That's still only 41%.

>>385262914
>>385262571
How much SE pays you to create this artificial threads? Even Overwatch manufacture then better.

>>385263169
MNK is solid on damage, probably the easiest class in the game
t. guy with a mnk alt

>>385263441
>he doesn't just Manaward through aoe

>>385263390
As a healer, I always feel very bad when one of my men go down. It always feels like I let the team down, like I've been a very bad girl.

>>385263637
Probably pays him better than Blizz pays you to shit on the same threads.

>Look, a thread about something I don't like!
>Should I do the logical thing and keep scrolling to find something I would actually enjoy?
>NAH FUCK IT let's go in and shitpost like an autist til nuggies are done

>>385263426
>watching a video for msq fights
What a shitter, Shinryu is just recycled mechanics and only jump potion users won't know how to handle it
Tell them to delete their character, start a new one, and actually play the game

>>385263441
I got a 20k akh morn once. that was cool

>>385263637
>>385263743
Neither have shit on the sudden Gigantic threads. I have never seen such blatant shilling the janitors just LET happen

>>385263637
Your broken english is showing chang, better go back to WoW where you belong

>>385263441
Reminds me of my susanoo nm party today I had to drop out of. To be honest I'm a jump potion shitter blm but was a tank main (fuck potd) but I practiced and made an effort. At the end of the fight I ended up the only party member over 2k dps since I'm the only one that didn't die and there as a blm in the party like come on I'm basically rooted in place compared to you fuck dude. Everyone else was under 900 and we wiped.

>>385263169

RDM/MNK for DPS.
SCH/AST for healers because WHM does all of the heavy lifting in Omega.
PLD for tank because they're now the premier OT and DRK/WAR actually require you to pay attention as the usual MTs.

>>385263827
Nigga even before jump potions, people were stupid and got hit by that shit. They've been spoiled by small, round arenas and it seems when square ones pop up they shit themselves.

Was nothing for me though, same old shit, but non-savage raid level, which is higher than most non-raiding shitters are used to.

>>385264025
There was a Rdm in my party I meant. But thinking of that I could imagine how much better I would do if I played rdm if I can handle blm.

>>385263898
Guy that called out anti 14 autist, I just report those and go on and they stay up
However this thread, not made by me, and with people talking about the game, will probably get deleted now that that moron is here
Really shows you how competent the mod team is

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>>385252305
60-70 kind of makes up for 50-60 being lackluster.

I'm actually kind of worried for the 5.0 job quests since 4.0 has been "let's bring back all the peeps from the earlier class quests and shenanigans" which is great now, but they can't really play that card to the same effect again.

Also for 70 ALC is F'halmin's husbando actually alive, I saw that one dude stand outside of the crypt when we were melting Heartstrike but I didn't see him before in any of the other quests so confuzzled.

>>385264093
>whm does heavy lifting
if the healers arent roughly 50/50 on hps then there is a problem

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>>385264093
>DRK
>actually require you to pay attention

Oh honey....

>>385264381
you misunderstood. it could be a pld mt'ing and they'd have to pay attention too. the point is whoever is ot'ing is usually not doing shit and would be replaced for a 5th dps if it werent for gimmicks like the lightning tether in v1s to force an ot

>>385261467
Because you can't actually get one until next week?

>>385264379
Not that anon but most whm just heal sadly so I just let them.

why do people want dancer so badly? is it just erp purists who want more facets to look cringey in slutglam?

>>385264860
There are two kinds of people who want DNC. FFV, FFXI, and FFT fans who genuinely like the job and want an interesting melee support class. And then the majority of people who want it which are ERP catshitters.

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>>385264860
>is it just erp purists who want more facets to look cringey in slutglam

these are your dancers for tonight

>>385264624
>Launch primals and Coil1-4 all had real mechanics that required two tanks
>Every primal and raid afterwards is a stacking debuff that kills you if you get too many

Who quit after 2.1 that made everything new shitty?

>>385264860

Yeah pretty much. People who spend the majority of their time playing dressup and sucking futa cock instead of playing.

Honestly it'd be such a fucking waste. You can call yourself a fucking dancer anyway. Most of these fucks already do, in fact.

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>>385264954
>tfw DNC sub
NIN/DNC was my shit

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>>385264972
Male roes have 2 extremes and no inbetween: Faggots like most of those you posted, and funny ones like Muscle Mog, the top row silly bastards, pic related, and Mr Face

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>>385264995

This shit legitimately makes me mad. TWO fucking weeks after launch and people are already single tanking Lakshmi, fucking brilliant design SE.

>>385264379

If you're talking prog with an actual static, sure and even so O4s will usually have SCH/AST a chunk below when paired with WHM. But since we're talking minimal effort to get picked for a raid group, SCH/AST are both roles that can pretty much leave most things up to the WHM because WHM no longer requires as much support with their MP fixes and Refresh/Mana Shift. All SCH/AST has to do is complement aoe heals, in NocT AST's case just spamming Aspected Helios gets you a silver star and lets you survive stuff that kills people with zero vit melds.

>>385264995

>Coil1-4

Sounds like you didn't even raid coil.

>>385265294
Nice pedantry autist; guarantee I cleared T5 before you did

>>385264860
>is it just erp
You answered your own question

>>385265269

>bismarck
>thordan
>nidhogg

I mean, it's not like tanks will ever get any interesting mechanics in every MMO ever. You want to do mechanics, you go dps/healer. Same as usual. Giving a gold star to tanks just so they can feel useful doing a baby mechanic is w/e.

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>>385265462
Play a real FF

retards can't do o2s, what the fuck.

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>>385265421

Are you saying coil 1-5 was hard?

>>385265637
I bet you want viera huh

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Woah woah, why is this shit allowed? Have you retards heard about /vg/? You best go back there or else.

>>385265948
No, I think they should stay in Ivalice. XIV doesn't need any more races because they don't add anything except fantasia sales.

>>385265747
>4 months late
>nearly a month after it was nerfed
Apparently it was for you, shitter

>>385265976
I know you're just a lousy baiter, but seriously: Go look at the ffxiv general and tell me you'd actually want to go to a general like that for your game.

Any and all attempts to reclaim it get shitposted to oblivion.

>>385265976
now this post should be deleted for not being about video games and only serves to instigate a flamewar

>>385265976
>he starts at 6, halfway through my shift
>he doesn't stop until 4am, 10 hours later
Nigger go outside

>>385266414

meh, would pump and dump

not unique enough

>>385266414
generic idle slut found in town/10

>>385266414
Generic au'ra, grey hair, too old. You might tempt me with a suitably teasing Search Info or flist, though.

>>385266054

Oh please, I started just before 2.1. And even so, doesn't change the fact that people have beaten BCoB in like i50. People got better while you're preening your achievement of a raid tier 3 years ago as if you're relevant at all. Also, it wasn't a nerf if it fixed Twister, considering that's the only challenging part of the fight depending on how you deal with snakes.

Moreover, you still called it Coil1-4 like a retard.

>>385266414
Face 1 is shit.

>>385266572
Oh yes I forgot; clearing content competitively doesn't make you good, doing meme shit like wearing your AF gear and beating it months after every mechanic has been dissected does

Besides, I already addressed the Coil1-4 by calling you a pedantic autist

>>385266572
>play with 240ms
>can dodge divebombs and twister like nobody's business
>half of the DF group dies to that
I never thought people were this bad

Any idea what sort of DPS I should be doing as a 288 brd? (Got the 290 set but shit acc)

>>385267273
The only think you should be doing is getting 300+ gear

>>385267112

It's ok bud, your time from 3.5 years ago totally validates you as a hardcore gamer.

>>385267348
What about the time that I beat o4s on Monday? Does that make me a hardcore gaymer?

Please give me your approval, stuck-on-o3s-kun

>>385267216
I don't understand in general how people are so bad. I can go into a fight blind and figure out 80% of the mechanics in one go, some people get hit by the same shit over and over again. Is it sheer stupidity? Is it tunnel vision? or is it the difference between being a newb (eventually learns) and being a noob (never learns)?

>>385267723
some people are really bad at recognizing patterns or they just don't give a shit (others will carry me)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgYfTtXsu9c
>blocks your progression with great music

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>Game introduces character with complex motivations
>Plebs hate her because she's not a bland one note waifu
Fordola had a hard life

>>385268037
people hate her because she's a fucking idiot and eminently hateable

>>385267723
Yeah it baffles me how bad people can be. Like I've seen people run AWAY from the big stack up indicator in Shinryu, how have they gotten this far not knowing that mechanic?

>>385268149
If that were true, everyone would hate Yotsuyu. Fordola isn't even an idiot. Lyse is the idiot.

>>385268037
I didn't like how she looked angry all the time

>>385267216
>Susano EX learning party
>explain how the levinbolts work
>3-4 people consistently don't move accordingly
Like come on this is literally the easiest mechanic

>>385268149
>Idiot
How? Are you going to trot out the tired "but she could have just disobeyed orders and gotten her and her men killed for treason"
Sorry that's more complex and a moral quandary than *punches fist*

>>385268037
>wants to change the Empire from the inside to make it better for her people
>is okay with killing her own people to do so
I hate her because I hated Suzaku for having the same goddamn stupid ideology.

>>385268254
>hurr if we just bend over and take it the Garleans will like us
Lyse may be an idiot but Fordola is a bigger idiot

>>385262519
And that would be impossible now without bots. Almost nobody would bother with crafted gear if bots didnt exist, and the only thing worthwhile would be food/potions for raids exclusively.

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>>385268037

I want to hate FUCK her

>>385268228
>how have they gotten this far not knowing that mechanic?
maybe they did previous fights in unsync mode where mechanics don't even appear because you kill everything so fast.

that or level boosters

>>385268037

She looks like a PC.

That's not a good thing.

>>385268228
>how have they gotten this far
Jump potions

>>385268352
It wasn't about bending over and taking anything. It was about proving she was strong and willing to work and fight like any other Garlean. Fordola was the embodiment of Gaius's ideals.

>>385268335
her ideology as a whole is idiotic

>>385268228
jump potions
ability to get carried
no roadblocks for failure

You can literally spend 100% of all story content dead or afk and still clear. Just gotta persist enough to get a group that can carry you.

>>385268341
That's OK, I totally get that reasoning for hating her but it doesn't make her a bad character in the way the waifu plebs think

>>385268467
>You can literally spend 100% of all story content dead or afk and still clear.
can confirm. guy disconnected during nidhogg ex and we 7 manned it until he came back at the last minute and we won

>>385268360

I guess we can theorycraft how it would 'work' without bots all day, because there's not a single MMO example of an economy without botting.

I figure things would just stay around the same. You can go out and gather and enjoy your gil without having to worry about leveling 5 different classes to be 'good' at it.

>>385268352
It's almost like every NPC who's an Ala Mhigan is a complete dumbass, who'd have ever thunk it?
Raubahn is okay though, he's a credit to his people.

>>385268228
Because dungeon boss fights can be cleared with 2 people alive and it's easy for someone doing Nidhogg late to have no idea what actually happens when you don't stack because either everyone but them will do it and it will be fine or they'll clear fine anyways.

>>385268037
>Jap writers are going to continue to treat Fordola like a traitor and continue to completely not understand why western players don't like Eorzeans

I can't wait for the redemption arc where Fordola spends the rest of her life in penitence for traitorously serving her country in the military and not joining foreign-state sponsored terrorists

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Bout to tank Final Steps for the first time, what should I expect? What are my chances of fucking up and wiping the group and embarrassing myself forever more?

>>385268341
Fordola only ever killed insurgents who were trying to tear down the country she was born in. She was never Ala Mhigan. She was born under Garlean rule.

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>Susano EX, offtanking
>everytime I take Stormsplitter to swap Susano back to the MT I get fucking exploded
I'm popping cooldowns too, so it has to be my gear or something. Is i306 with mostly level V melds fine? Maybe I just need to make sure I get pumped back to full health before splitter.

>>385268746
I tanked FSoF for the first time blind about a month ago, we only wiped once and it wasn't my fault. It's pretty easy

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>There's only 2 spawn of ephemeral dusklight
>One at 12AM which finish at 4AM and another at 8AM which finish at 12PM
>Which means you have to wait 35min IRL for every 2 spawns
I miss HW ephemeral system already

>>385268746
tank either the left or right monster when they appear.
don't point any boss infront of party members.
everyone stacks together for arrows.
see that shit on the floor? don't stand in it.

congratulations you win

>>385268607
isn't Godbert Ala Mhigan

>>385268037

>Woman orders and participates in the slaughter of hundreds (dozens? PS4 limitations) of people
>Lyse captures her
>Meanwhile random Garlean soldier just trying to gain citizenship gets to die in some back alley in mhigger land

I swear the worse a person you are, the more likely you're going to be spared.

>>385268916
He's a Highlander so he has Ala Mhigan ancestry, but he's Ul'dahn.

>>385268916
Fuck no, everyone would be trying to Mhig him like Raubahn if he was.

>>385268460
>work hard and rise the ranks in a meritocracy is idiotic
>a meritocracy that until recently was being run by Gaius in her area who is proven to actually reward ability
The only idiot is you anon

>>385269026
>work hard
>by oppressing your own people

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>>385268752

It's either healers fault for not prepping you or your retarded """""mt"""" needs to swap ASAP

>off tanking
>eat tank buster, mt doesn't take swap
>"hol up, lemme jus finish my combo"
>have to tank with a stack, waste cds and healers clench they buttholes because some retard didn't prepare for tank swap

Usually its this.

>>385268752
your HP should be full to survive with rampart
if your HP is not full then you have to use a stronger cooldown like sentinel to survive

>>385269109
>>>>>>your people
Nigger what do you think the rem in Fordola rem Lupis means

>>385269109
They weren't her people. Fordola is Garlean. She has never lived under an Ala Mhigan flag. And where's the oppression? An entire town of stoneworkers who refused to do anything else but try and sell stone to the Garleans for 20 god damn years and are confused why they have no money? Maybe they should fucking adapt.

>>385269109
Well, if they got off their lazy Mhiggers asses and worked hard maybe they wouldn't be oppressed.
But as we all know from the Mhigger refugees in Ul'dah
>Mhiggers
>working

>>385269475
but Fordola did get off her lazy ass and worked hard and still was treated worse than a real Garlean

>>385269270
>>385269326
It's the healers then. Everything goes really well when he was swapping to me. That would explain a lot, since I caught one of the healers not jumping across the gap for his levinbolt.

Alright, I guess I'll just go into a clear party next time, since I feel like I have a pretty good grasp on the mechanics. How exactly does the thundercloud work though? Does it target random people or is there some pattern to it? I haven't been targeted by it so I don't really have experience dealing with it.

>>385269270
reminds me of sophia EX where the tank fails to swap in time to squeeze that extra fell cleave so you get 1 hit KO'd by the auto attack immediately after it

>>385269531
Because Zenos came in with his own legion and shit all over what Gaius stood for. His corruption of Fordola was the most obvious example of that.

>>385269356
Nigger did you even pay attention? Fordola was an Ala Mhigger who betrayed her people because she thought servitude was the safest way to survive under Garlean rule. That's why Lady Didn'tACTUALLYDoShitThisExpansion/Lyse hates her so much.

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>>385269531
Honestly I blame Zenos, his staff seemed like assholes.
Gaius had a big Roe as one of his top guys, it was probably better under his rule.

GIVE IN TO THE HUNGER

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>>385269659
Nigger, did YOU pay attention? Fordola never EVER lived under an Ala Mhigan flag. She was born fucking Garlean. She didn't betray anyone. She wanted to work hard and earn a place for herself and others like her in the country they were BORN in.

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>tfw finally figured out how to mod XIV
Soon I will finally get the not-hyur of my dreams (one with budget himecut and without schoolgirl animations).

>>385269580
the thundercloud spawns in a random location on the field and targets a random player. if you get targeted by it, the idea is to stand away from the group and make sure the cloud is not lined up with the boss+group. so if the cloud is north or south, move northwest or southeastish. if you stand still you kill everyone

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>flashback scene with young Raubahn
>they don't even show his face

Is there a more cheaper company than SE? It's the MSQ of your expansion put some fucking effort into it. I already got used to re-using assets but come on, it just so cheap you knew they were just trying to save money.

>>385269847
>scorned as Traitors by THEIR PEOPLE, and savages by their GARLEAN MASTERS, she and others like her...
She's Ala Mhigan. THe picture you posted just said she is and that's a direct quote from it. "Their people", separate from Garleans. Reading comprehension. She might've been born while Ala Mhigo was under Imperial Rule, but she's still an Ala Mhigan.

>>385269980

enjoy your inevitable ban, my dude

>>385270093
>Same cutscene
>Ilberd has the same exact face he did when he died in the wall

>>385270093
>>385270196
s l o p p y

>>385269980
Elaborate? Tools to modify shit have been out for ages, including nude patches, but not a mix n matcher like that tha I know of.

>>385270113
It doesn't change the fact that she was born Garlean and has no connection with insurgents and lazy assholes who refuse to adapt. These stupid bastards have been starving for 20 years because they never wanted to try anything but selling stone when nobody bought stone anymore.

>>385269847
She is born abanian, ruled a garlean leader residing in Ala Mhigo. Even though she was born and raised under garlean ruule, she was not raised as a true garlean and of course not considered one by that nation. She was to the garleans a eorzean/mhigan savage.