Its less than fastfood bill

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Online should be free. I'll tell you why they did it.

>ps3 = $599
>masssive shitsorm

>ps4 = $399 + $50*5 = $650
>perfectly acceptable

I paid 20 bucks for a year during the Prime Day so it's fine. :^)

>>385210252
>Guaranteed replies

Get this shit outa here.

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>>385210551
>reddit spacing

>>385210418
>Mah PS4 pro

>>385210252
Paying for online play.

Is this the final form of microtransactions?

I'll stay with my PS3 thank you.

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>>385211732
>b-but you also get paid appstore, google play, steam, origin like service
>muh discounts
>muh "free" games

>>385211996
This is so fucking stupid, actually stopped me from buying a PS4. Its just like the fucking creation club from bethesda.

"Hey everything is free.... ᴀғteR ʏou pᴀʏed ғoR tHe ᴀccess..."
-I am sorry what was that?
"N-nothing"

>>385211996
Can't wait until PS5 when we get the privilege of paying to access the Netflix app and download system updates for a low price

>>385212486
Nah nah, first you have to buy an account to even play at all.

>>385212486
Just wait until net neutrality gets shut down and you can start paying to have access to 4chan

>>385211996
>its okay when sony does it

Hello sonybro here

I dont pay for ps+

Why is ps+ so fucking shit now? During the ps3 era when it wasn't mandatory for online play we actually got good games.

Now every month is just shovelware or indie garbage. I think the last game that was even remotely playable was Resident Evil remake back in what? September?

I don't even know which games are worth getting PS Plus to play online.

>>385212925
Because that was a marketing campaign for the PS4 and mandatory PS+. Back when it was announced the fanboys were constantly giving excuses saying that at least you get all these good games with the service.

>>385212913
You mean you just dont play online?

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>>385210252
Oh yeah? Whe have sales and discounts, feel mad, steamcuck?

>>385213083
I play ffxiv!

>>385213063
Bloodborn

IT'S OKAY WHEN SONY DOES IT YOU FUCKING PEEKUK

>>385210252
>fastfood
disgusting

>>385212486
>and download system updates for a low price
Those will always be free because they force them on you to prevent privacy, by patching early vulnerabilities.
That's the one thing you will never ever pay for.

>>385210252
>paying for sales

#4theplayers

I just like the grabbag of random games I'd probably never have played otherwise.
But I've been a sub since before the PS4, it was pretty shitty to make it mandatory. Especially since a lot of PS3 games still have active playerbases specifically cause that shits free.

ps4 owner here, this pay to play online shit still pisses me off to this day. Majority of games are peer to peer so this is literally money for nothing.

If i want to play anything online and its on pc, I'll get it on that instead. Fuck Sony.

PS+ games annonced later today I think
Who ready for Vita getting another indie physics based puzzle platformer with minimalist graphics and probably being about a child lost in a dark and scary world?
Also it'll be crossbuy with PS4 cause the Vita games are actually just an extra 2 PS4 games.

>>385210546
>during the Prime Day
Oh fuck they had that deal on amazon prime day? Wish I knew, I just bought the PS4 during it and didn't see PS plus cards

>>385210252
>paying for online

i can't imagine any grown ass man that pays his own bills paying for this shit

its just retarded

>2007
>/v/ shits on 360 owners for paying for online

>2017
>/v/ defends for paying for online

good god fuck consoles

>>385213548
>I just like the grabbag of random games I'd probably never have played otherwise.
But when your sub runs out, its like you never had them, right?

>>385211996
>bragging about system updates being free

>>385210418
>$50*5
lel are you retarded? Why didn't you buy them when they were $20 for a year?

>>385214245
Yeah. Not ideal, but at least for me its fine.
I wouldnt judge someone if thats a dealbreaker. Xbox does permanent games and its pretty cool.

>>385214408
all console war cucks defended paid online dude

>>385214408
I like my Bloodborne machine, but good god Sony fanboys are the scum of the earth

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Well, how about now? Does any other platform has this? Sony wins again.

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>>385214291
>>385214408
Stop being cheap, luxuary costs money, nothing is free.

>>385217242
Wow, res4, my favorite ps2 game!

>>385217242
What are you trying to convey with this picture?
They're pretty much all multiplat except Yakuza and maybe one of those weeb games at the bottom that I don't recognize

>>385217536
Those weeb games are multiplats too

>>385214291
>tfw I literally bought a PS4 yesterday

when did this happen and what's the chances of it happening again?

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>>385217084
multiplayer is not luxury but basics

>>385217770
release year, never

>>385217941
fuuuuck

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>>385213163
>have to pay extra money to get discounts
I'm not mad, I just feel pity you think you're getting a good deal.

>>385214408
>those were supposedly made by the same people
No, I may have made one of those posts at the top, but I will never yield to paying for online.
It is retarded and excessive.
The only cancer here is you trying to start a flamewar over this.

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>>385217805
But it was in the 90's
Also movies are 24 fps and were black and white without sound in the past, so its no point in 60 fps or 1080p now.

>>385218148
Enjoying Bloodborne?

>>385210418
At least PS4 and Xbox have online that works.
>dude phones lmao

>all consoles add paid online and up the price to about $10 a month
>consolefags still buy them even though that money over the lifespan of the console + the price of the console = the amount of money it would take to build a sick gaming computer and play all your games at twice the framerate and higher graphics settings

goddamn brainlets

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>>385218432
I've been using my PS4 as a mousepad since beating Persona 5.

I never bought the online subscription.

>>385214464
>consolefags make fun of steam for being a "subscription" service like our games are going anywhere
>pays monthly for "free" games which are stolen the moment you stop throwing shekels at sony

>>385218610
>all your games
Like bloodborne, Nioh and Let it Die?
I've been having a lot of fun, sorry for your loss.
Saving for a gaymen peecee is only worth it if you have lots of shit you want to emulate.

>>385218665
>I've been using my PS4 as a mousepad

Pictures or you're laying.

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>>385218665

>>385218871
>implying i dont think the practically identical dark souls games are shit, as well as weebshit

>>385218871
>Saving for a gaymen peecee is only worth it if you have lots of shit you want to emulate.

you dont even need a gaming PC to emulate most games, but yeah lets pretend like you wouldnt kill for all your games to be 60fps 1080p with good AA, no shitty chromatic abberation and a larger than 45 degree field of view

>>385218993
>I think they're shit so everyone else must think so too
How dare I have fun with video games by buying a console. Oh, forgot to add crash remaster on the pile of fun stuff you're missing out on.

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>>385218993
Mad cuz no gaemz

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>>385218906
>>385218890

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>>385213242
>PvP on any Souls game

>>385210252
>Used to think psn+ was a good idea when it was first announced since its optional
>Now its mandatory to play online and the servers are shit to begin with

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>>385219325

>>385213764
I just finished and really enjoyed last months indie puzzle platformer element4l , did you try it ?

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>>385219183
>vast majority of top selling games are multiplat, which run like ass on console
>lol no gamez u mad

>>385219505
>people are buying more apples than coffee for their coffee machine
>lol no coffee you mad
Pathetic.

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>>385219505
Stil, no bloodborne or horizon masterpiece

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>>385219606
>food analogy

>>385219746
Not an argument.

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>>385210252
>>385210546
It's $20 on Switch all the time.

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>>385219505
>>385219606
>>385219631
>>385219746
>>385220000

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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>>385220000
Yes, food analogy is not an argument.
Same thing for
>owning a car is not only paying for gas, so paying 50$ a year for ps+ is justified

>>385220230
Not what the discussion I started was about. Read up the replies.

>>385220130
You have now entered an infinite loop with your terrible arguments, just start reading from here again >>385219606

Reminder that Sony is publishing like 5 games next month including an Uncharted game so don't go expecting big PS+ games next month

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>>385220397
Still, nothing to do with food.

>>385220542
Look up the definition of an "analogy".
The fact that food was used for one doesn't mean it's invalid, but because you're so retarded I'll give you another one.
You buy a TV that comes with a bluray player (that can also play DVD's) instead of a TV with a DVD player. As it turns out, the majority of people who payed for the tv with a bluray still just buy DVD's mostly. Now you're saying that because of that it makes any and all blurays bought invalid.
Retard.

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>>385220397
>i wash my hands with soap to be healthy
>blurred (soapy) ps graphics are superior

Ah yes, 50$ a year for p2p matchmaking

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>>385220854
>does not contain any facts

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>>385220000
nice quads shitposter

>>385221204
You say: "Exclusives don't matter because the majority of people still buy multiplats"
I say: "No you idiot, that's not how it works."
You say: "Nice facts faggot."
How retarded are you?

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>>385221319
No, you say
>fact A is true
>that means opinion B is true too
And bullshit like
>apples are healthy, junk food is not
>ps is apples, pc is junk food

>>385221560
Ok now you're just pulling shit out of your ass in order to fuel some weird flamewar that injects dopamine into your peanut brain.
Look here >>385219505 and here >>385220130
You claim twice that exclusive don't matter cause they're not the most sold game on the console, which is exactly what I stated in my previous post.
>inb4 that's not me
Then don't join the discussion as if you were here from the start retard.
>inb4 I was only pretending to be retarded

>>385217770
Every black friday, they always have cards on sale.

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>>385221780
>you claim twice
>you

>>385222071
Nice attention span, try reading the rest of the post.

>>385214464
It only applies to 360's games though.

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>>385219272
*no replies*

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>>385222334
>PS4cuck is mad
Well, buddy,
>those who bear the thorn may eat a rare fruit
>want to eat honey? Be ready for bees
>its relevant to consoles, your argument is invalid

>>385222334
you mean the autism about how no one else can join the argument against a sonybro for no apparent reason?

i ignored it for a reason, makes no sense

>>385212925
We got Until Dawn, though everyone interested in the game probably already picked it up for $5.

I don't completely regret my PS+ purchase but I wish they'd improve the service.

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>>385222605
Food sonybro would say something like
>dont eat pizza, if you cant eat the crust

>>385222641
>>385222678
What the actual fuck is wrong with you people, once again you stand by the claim that because multiplats sell more than exclusives, that therefore exclusives don't matter.
>b-but that's not what this is about
That's exactly what this whole discussion has been about and if you don't think this you've been replying to the wrong guy.
The statement is wrong no matter how you think about it.
Don't even try to reply in the hopes to change the subject yet again.
Fuck off.

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>>385222915
Subject was monthly fee for ps+

>>385223054
And stupid analogies ps4 users came up with to justify it
>>385210252

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>>385218432
>>385218906
>>385218890
>>385218871
>>385219179
>>385219183
>>385219631

>when you start a thread to defend paid online but it's basically indefensible so you have to move the goalposts to something else

>>385223054
In the OP? Yes.
In this discussion? No.
Read up the replies, here is the start where I claim that the exclusives are worthwhile games >>385218871
Every single reply since then has been about the exclusives.
It took 3 fucking posts for 2 different people to claim that "because multiplats sell more than exclusives" is equal to the exclusives being non-existant.
Reading comprehension, it could save your life, and possibly me some typing.

where to get ps+ 12 months membership for $50

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>>385223343
>N-no b-bloodborne, you baka!

>>385223363
your wrong

>>385223363
>>385223217
Look it yourself

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>>385222915
yes... being able to play so many more games in so much better quality kind of makes those niche exclusives irrelevant, why is this so hard for you to comprehend?

PC has its own exclusives as well too, though not as big budget, i prefer them to console exclusives, even though i grew up being a consolefag

>>385224395
Your exclusives are csgo and dota2, nothing compared to horizon or bloodborne

>>385224518
>Dark Souls: Tim Burton Edition and an Ubisoft game

woaaah

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>>385224518
>post an example
>durr all you have is the shit thats popular because its easy to run, and played mostly by people who are even more loyal to consoles

what a salty retard

>>385224395
>>385224518
Paradox and Maxis saved me from a life of consolefaggotry.

RIP Maxis, you will be missed.

>>385210252
>60 a year to use your internet connection which you already pay for

Lmao im good

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>PSplus games for august are Just cause 3 and Assassin's Creed.

At least it's not more fucking adventure games.

>>385220129
Don't listen to this man, I can't reach my credit card because I'm tangled up in all the voice chat cables.

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>>385224518
Bloodborne I get but stop pretending like Horizon is boring garbage.
Stop shilling your shitty bow and arrow game and go make Killzone 5 you cuck.

>>385226059
You don't need the cables for voice chat. That being said, the online app is still trash.

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>>385210252
Now in order to play online, we must rent some random games :/