>he thinks jrpgs are superior to wrpgs

>>385206723
They are now since WRPGs are shit nowadays.

come back with an wrpg that isn't samey tolkienish fantasy game about knights and wizards

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>>385206723
>he thinks glarb bloork troghtorm jumanji grahlarth

>>385206723
There are still jrpgs? On what? Maybe some handhelds and an occassional FF or Persona. Other than that, I thought they died off somewhere after the PS2 era.

>>385206965
>>385206965
Fallout
Arcanum
Planescape
Pathologic
VMTB
Morrowind
Deus Ex
Jagged Alliance
Dark lands
KOTOR
System Shock
Wasteland
Alpha Protocol
Underrail
Dark Sun

>>385206723
woody sure is wild

>>385207134
>none are recent games

lmao

>>385207189
Some are though.

name one jrpg that actually deserves the r in rpg. most games I've seen would be more suitably described as action games with turn based / real time combat and light character progression / customization.

show me one game that's actually meant to be role played it.

>>385207189
He didn't ask for recent ones though. Not like JRPG's are any better these days, in fact I can't think of any aside from SMT or Persona

>>385207189
>a recent game is one that came out this month
A new Deus Ex came out last year, dude.

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>>385207334
>backpedaling

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>>385207437
Damn....really makes you think

>>385207380
and ot was shit

>>385207134

Old wrpgs were a force to be reckoned with. Newer shit lacks the soul that the older games had. And let's face it, the hollywoodization of the genre ruined it for good.

No longer are we free from political agenda in a fucking video game, it is the core driving force most of the western game devs, and as such, leads to very poor mechanics and even worse story telling.

WRPGs = wannabe visual novels
JRPGs = anime with stats

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>>385206723
>he thinks

>>385207604
>WRPGs = wannabe visual novels
As opposed to JRPG's which are literally visual novels?

>>385206723
why is that pencil laughing
why is that pencil living

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>>385207628
>he

>>385207694
>has

>>385207694
Before anyone asks, these characters actually aren't traps.

>>385207294
no replies. thought so. fucking weebs

>>385207694
Are those actually traps?

>>385207294
jrpgs are weird in that you don't have a blank slate character whom you can customize like traditional rpgs. the roles that exist are predetermined by characters and you unlikely can't change them. the closest to role playing would be picking and choosing which character (role) you want in your party.

>>385207694
Wow, could these characters actually be males in a female disguise?

>>385206723
>>he thinks jrpgs are superior to wrpgs
True that, still waiting for a jrpg that can surpass Gothic 2.
Which is never

>>385207801
no one would ask
/v/ knows every trap by name

>>385207878
then stop calling them role playing games.

call them action adventure games or something.

>>385207878
What are you even talking about? Most JRPGs are split between either party based systems or job/class systems with job/class systems also having the sub-system styles of weapon based class systems for games where you don't get a party.

From a purely mechanical stand point most JRPGs actually let you do more as a player than WRPGs.

>>385206723
Childhood is loving jrpgs. Adulthood is realizing wrpgs are superior in every way.

>>385208249
most jrpg class systems are shallow. wrpgs allow better customization.

>>385208523
>childhood is loving wrpgs
>adulthood is realizing you're going to spend 1000 hours trying to fix everything wrong with that wrpg from the shitty UI to the ugly characters and bland world aesthetics to trying to make the bare bones game systems fun to play and then 2 hours actually playing

>>385207858
No they're lolis, it's an edit

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>>385207694
>you will never be a cute trap

>>385208675
Customization is meaningless when everything plays exactly the same.

>>385206723
They are for sure my man

>>385208698
this

>>385208698
Doing all that repairing is autism not adulthood. Just live with the sub par UI and get on with it.

>>385209148
Jeez anon just drive the broken car. Who cares?

>>385208997
nope. even if that was true, jrpgs are far worse in that regard.

>>385206723
Reminder that the devs of the first JRPG ever made, Dragon Quest, openly stated on record that they made it for people too retarded to play WRPGs.

>>385209304
Well at the time Western RPGs were things like converted D&D to computer form, and could be rather complex. As a whole WRPGs have really shifted from that towards a simpler state.

>>385209304
Reminder: WRPGfags need to stop pretending they know moon. The interview was about people not being able to play things like D&D and other pen and paper RPGs easily. DQ predates the vast majority of WRPG franchises and even the ones that do predate DQ didn't arrive in Japan until after DQ even existed.

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>>385209468
>>385209478
Mmmmmm nope, both the devs and the publishers have stated on multiple occasion have stated DQ's success was due to catering to a more casual crowd.

>>385206723
>He thinks his opinion is superior to any other opinion
On the bright side, OP is always a faggot.

>>385209190
Actually I fixed my car while anon was spending hours installing skyrim mod to give his companion bigger tiddies. See what I mean? You care. Someone has to care...

>>385206723
I'm interested in boss-fights, dungeon crawling and being challenged so I prefer JRPGs.

I don't think WRPGs are bad by any means, I just don't like visual novels.

>>385206965
You mean like all those Shadowrun games?

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The best ones are JRPGs that try to be WRPGs.

>>385210650
>dark souls
>trying to be a WRPG
it just took gritty 80s and 90s action JRPGs and brought them to the modern era.

Fallout 1 and 2 > Any JRPG ever
In fact any WRPG too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SefxmOv-88M&t=55s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8Q2WlVuaqs&t=8s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h38zN_vF_dQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0M7FAoK3fM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jxn1sqAQ-c

STREET SHARKS

>>385210915
Yeah, yeah, just keep babblin'. It's western to the core.

>>385206896
They are both shit nowadays.
With each genre having an actual good game very far and few between, like Dark Souls and New Vegas.

>>385211137
>DaS
>wrpg

Kek

>>385211172
Learn to read dumbass weeb

>>385210950
In terms of choice&consequence mechanics, sure, but there are a few JRPGs I consider to be better overall, like Suikoden, Arc the Lad II or even Chrono Trigger.

>>385211172
New Vegas was the WRPG I mentioned dongus, DaS was my example for a recent good JRPG.

>>385210392
>wrpgs are visual novels
Literally what?

>>385211236
Actually, Suikoden was one of the best RPGs I've ever played full stop, but I only played the first two. Whatever happened to that franchise? Is it still around and good?

>>385211297
>DaS
>JRPG

You´re not even trying, right kiddo?

>>385211298
Maybe he's thinking of Mass Effect? I don't know. Visual novel isn't really what comes to mind when I play most WRPGs.

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I like both

>Caring which is superior

I'm glad I'm not a faggot

>>385206723
>dark souls is the best RPG in history of videogames
So yes

>>385206975
underrated post

>>385211479
kys yourself

>>385211231
Kid please, i don´t even like jrpg even after playing some of the most "praised" ones. Sure there are some interesting points but still is quite predictable.

CRPG are always superior and usually they mix western and eastern thematics, don´t be so simple you´re not talking with your kindergarden friends now.

>>385211505
Dark souls babies should learn to shut the fuck up

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>>385210950
>acolytes of a new god
Holy shit this is atmosphere kino. So dark and forbidding. I remember the first time I went to the church, did not expect to see mutants there

>>385211559
Why did you put "praised" in quotations? Are they not actually praised?

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>>385211479
I hate both

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>>385211505
This is a joke, right?

>>385211629
Damn dude. CRPG's have such good artstyles, almost 20 years ago and it Fallout 1 still looks fucking amazing.

>>385211559
Yeah but CRPGs aren't fun. Skipping the gameplay is seen as a reward in those games.

>>385211772
>>385211772
>Skipping the gameplay is seen as a reward in those games.
Which ones? The only one I can think of is Planescape. I mean JRPG's aren't really either. Turn based combat sucks balls and the only JRPG where I actually didn't mind the combat was CT.

>>385211752
>CRPG's have such good artstyles
I wouldn't generalize like that. Some have aged like milk. Just look at the character sprites for most Infinity Engine games. They look like glitches.

>>385211559
Learn what "both" means and come back playing old school daddy like anyone cares

>>385211840
>Some have aged like milk
Which ones? I should have been more clear too, I mean strictly Infinity Engine ones. The only IE title I believe aged visually bad was BG1.

>>385211736
It's obviously bait, that's not to say Dark Souls isn't good though.

>>385210950
>fo2
>above deus ex and planetscape torment
The holy trinity of rpgs are fo1 and the other two I mentioned.

>>385211835
Name 5 good CRPG boss fights. I'm pretty sure Nocturne alone has more good boss battles than the CRPG genre.

>>385206723
>playing rpgs

Literally the cuck's genre.

Grow the fuck up and play some MOBA or FPS, you cuckchildren

>>385206723
Japanese games are in general superior to Western games. That's not to say Western games can't be enjoyable once in a blue moon, but in general I'd rather play a weeb game.

>>385211937
Fallout 2 is still great, what the fuck is up with this meme of 2 being bad? Sure it's more silly but it's honestly still a masterpiece. People really do exaggerate when it comes to "MUH REFERENCES".

>>385212060
Jap games need to branch out, though. I want some weeb FPS and open world Ubisoft ripoffs shit.

>>385212445
Japs can't do first person unless it's a dungeon crawler.

>>385212060
I hate it when /v/irgins like OP and you try to push your opinions as fact.

>>385212385
>Fallout 2 is not one of the three best RPGs in existence
>WHAT'S WITH THIS FUCKING NIGGERMEMECANCER OF FALLOUT 2 BEING BAD???

>>385212521
Fallout 2 is better than Deus Ex though

>>385211647
They are praised by some fans and hated by the other half. You could take for instance FFVII and VI.


>>385211841

You don´t even know how to answer don´t you.

>WRPG & JRPG
>I point out that DaS is not W neither J-RPG
>STFU WEEB L2READ LMAO
>Kid you are making a big mistake and you´re even rejoicing in your ignorance
>kek learn what both means old school daddy man i dont even care haha!1!one

Yes... you´ve won this you (you) now keep playing your shitty games and watching some e-celeb that could explain to you anything about vidya genres.

>>385212060
Quake 3, Deus Ex, Fallout 1, UT 99, and Thief 2 > anything Japan has ever created

>>385212521
Fallout 2 is objectively better than 1.

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>>385208915
This comment enrage me, you can be a cute trap if you want, boy... go to gym and start working your ass... hormones help too

>>385212852
All this damage control because you can't fucking read, truly laughable

>>385212852
>I point out that DaS is not W neither J-RPG
It's a JRPG though.

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>he hasn't played phantasy star IV

>>385213057
It doesn't count because I like it so I'll do mental gymnastics to prove it isn't.

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>>385213057
Is an adventure arpg, now you can read plenty of material about the main differences between both genres before the big split of the CRPG genre and learn how to identify them.
>>385212993
Im suffering with your ignorance. Well, actually im not, it´s quite fun.

>>385213321
>can't understand that japenese rpgs like dark souls are called jrpgs
>talks about ignorance

Kys my dude

>>385213321
It's actually an Action RPG, but a JRPG nonetheless.

>>385213456
A japanese rpg stands for a certain set of properties that are constant since it´s origins where it were difference in both computer and console.
Some of these are the lineal setting, even in open environments, anime-like characters, turn base combat without strict pen & paper rules, non developed choice in-dialog based system, etc...

Of course you could create a RPG in USA with these features, it will be, again, a jrpg, because it doesn´t stand for the place of the development, but for the constants about it.

I though that nu/v/ will knew this but holy crawling fuck this denial just for the sake of being a contrarian is just stupidity.

>>385206723
I think it depends on the game. But they are completely different genres.. so saying one is better than the other is a little silly.

>inb4 newfag

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>>385213867
Now we are talking, an adventure arpg with a dark medieval setting, slow paced combat in real time, diversity in builds & stats, some sidequests where you can choose (poorly if i might say something) an outcome, non linear quest with various ending and with a strong multiplayer facet is a jrpg?

Cause it shares more, for not saying all, wrpg properties.

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>>385206723
Don't forget that GOTY 2017 is a JRPG.

>>385214002
I hate anime weebshit games. Doesn't change the fact that japanese rpgs are called jrpgs, but I understand you want to diffetenciate a good game like dark souls from most japanese games which are nonsensical anime fans pandering hot garbage

>>385214274
But that's not Prey

>>385214374
You´re not understanding anything. I don´t give a cripled fuck about a W or a J up in the RPG´s ass because im not a stupid shit who cares about weeb memery or murrica kids with their normie games.
I don´t make the distinction, it´s made by the own videogames standards.

Holy shit it´s so difficult to understand? It´s like someone try to say that Half Life is a fucking Sim, cause you go to your fucking job in Black Mesa and actually play with physics.

>japanese menu picking
vs
>WRPG that try their hardest to implement sophiscated systems that make it look like it has depth even though your dragon slayer character can't do things like pushing a box

>>385214241
name a recent wrpg with dark medieval setting, slow paced combat in real time, diversity in builds & stats, some sidequests where you can choose (poorly if i might say something) an outcome, non linear quest with various ending and with a strong multiplayer facet

>>385207845
Maybe everyone just bought you were a dumbass.

>>385206896
Good thing WRPGs have Underrail, Divinity OS 2, Banner Saga, Dues Ex MD, Masquerada, etc. for good recent releases

JRPGs have Bloodborne, Dark Souls 3, and ???

Don't even mention dumbshit that plays itself like Persona 5.

Yeah WRPG has a selection of good games but what have they had recently?
What has the west got to compare to say, Persona 5?
Mass Effect Andromeda?

>>385215283
No replies, that's what I thought, faggots.

>>385215283
Divinity OS 2

>>385206723
They are.

>>385215283
Underrail is much better than Persona 5