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Does it get better?

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So far I'm 10 hours in and fucking shit this game is awful. It's the definition of style over substance
>battles are so easy you can just use the same strategy over and over again until you get to a boss
>"sneak" is overpowered bullcrap that makes the gameplay so much slower than it actually should be
>dungeon feels so poorly designed and drag on for way too long
>dialogue is cringy shit
>characters are okay
>pacing is shit, and the story doesn't seem to be very interesting
>music is great

Does it get better?
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>>385204380
I want to like the game. Please tell me it gets better

If the characters get more fleshed out and better characters join it might be enough to pull me through

Does the story beats get any more interesting later on?

Please I want to enjoy it.
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yea

SP conservation becomes more important
sneak isn't bad, just run until you see an enemy then hide so you can sneak up
take your time
>cringe
story is just about a group of kids who wanna change hearts of adults and get big, that is until the 5th palace where shit start's to get unveiled and things really pick up

It's a really long game that you just don't seem to have the patience for.
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>>385204541
How exactly long is it?
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>>385204814
around 80 to 120 hours
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>>385204814
90 to 120 hours
refund it
you probably don't have the patience for it, if you don't like the premise you won't like it even when it picks up
i spent 300 hours on it btw
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>>385204297
>exploiting the enemies' weakness makes them easier to fight wtf
>sneaking up on enemies lets me attack them when their guard isn't up holy shit
>this dungeon makes me solve puzzles to complete it it's almost like a fuckin video game or something

kill yourself
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>>385204908
>>385205042
Jesus fuck. You do say it gets better right? If the story picks up I might stick with it
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>>385204297
Never played pokemon before?
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>>385205124
>makes it easier to fight
*Braindead easy to fight. It's just tedium. It's not a challenge, it's just mashing the tired old buttons
>sneaking up lets me attack them
Exactly. The game encourages you to go EVEN SLOWER. In an already horribly tedious and draggy game
>dungeon makes me solve puzzles
Haphazardly placed puzzles that are neither interesting to play nor offer any challenge.
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>>385204297
No.

You're taste in games doesn't get better, You're fucked.
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The game does not really change that much. First dungeon is actually the best portion of the game.

No reason to put 100+ hours in a game you're not enjoying.
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>>385205240
What difficulty are you playing it on?

It sounds to me like you are still on the first dungeon because eventually your damage will reflect back on your face and rape your mom and sister.
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>>385205152
Don't feel too pressured to beat it, I mean I like the game but I don't want you slogging through something you don't enjoy.
But if it makes things better, constantly throughout the game new mechanics are always being added.
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>>385205184
Only the originals when I was pretty young. I don't remember much of it. I think I liked it but not too much.

I actually like turn based RPGs like chrono trigger and some of the FFs (FF6) is my favourite.

I heard many good things about persona 5 but I'm really not feeling it so far
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GAME
OF
THE
YEAR
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>>385205291
Normal. I expected that to be the optimum and most balanced experience. Am I wrong?

>>385205291
I'm at Madarame's palace. Second one I think.
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Persona is the worst kind of game which just forces you to do the same shit over and over with irrelevant rewards to feed your addiction.

I can't say it's 100% trash, because the final dungeon is straight out of SMT and I love it. Otherwise it offers nothing you couldn't get in P3/P4 and I'm so glad I didn't buy a playstation for this.
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>>385205262
Can you tell me what you like about the game? I want to see what others like in it to see if it fits with mine
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>>385204297
>Does it get better?
Honestly discover it for yourself don't rely on other people's impressions or you'll begin to have different expectations
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>>385204297
It literally gets worse.
It's the easiest game in the series, stealth is done really poorly in the game, It's gets consistently easier to the point of playing itself once you get SP regen charms, and the group cohesion is completely fucked, they hardly interact with each other because they're too busy jumping on potter's dick.

On the positive side the music, presentation, and underground doctor are great.

>>385205442
It's literally one of the worst SMT/Persona games it just has a great fucking art style and presentation.
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>>385205384
Yeah well it will definetly get harder. But it sounds like you don't even care about finding out what is behind these shadows appearing etc.

Just drop it mate.
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>>385205525
I actually care about the story but it's pacing makes it pretty uninteresting.
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>>385204297
stop playing my waifu's game you ungrateful fuck.
go play Fifa or something else more your speed.
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>>385204297
>start playing KMT
>literally the first encounter after buying equipment is 4 enemies that gangrape me in 2 turns
Play this if you want a hard game, you faggot OP.
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>>385205384
I played it on Hard and felt it was the optimal setting unless you've never played Atlus games before and want an easier start.

>people complained about Persona Q but did not play on Risky
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>>385205638
But I fucking hate fifa. Persona 5 seems even more casual and easy than it somehow
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>>385204297
Go fuck your slutty normie gf you unvirgin
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>>385205603
Its a MINIMUM 80 hour game. The pacing is a problem throughout the whole game. If you find it boring now then you won't enjoy it at all. Use that time for something that you will enjoy.
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>>385205507
>one of the worse
KEK persona 1 is even shittier.
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>>385205694
>Playing in the dog shit from the 70s
Now why would I do that?
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>>385205851
Look at this faggot.
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>>385204297
>It's the definition of style over substance
That's every single JRPG ever made since FF VII, for that's what their target, teens and manchildren, want to play.
You were fooled by weeaboos memes, OP.
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>>385205694
thanks, will check this out
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Let me just ask this, you're not taking more than 3 - 4 days to beat a palace are you?
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>>385206042
forgot to keep track desu
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>>385205851
>waaaah muh purseowner is ezpz
>play a hard game then
>why would I do that
What did he mean by this?
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>>385206042
Literally every palace takes three days.
>get to a random point where you have to turn back
>send the calling card
>fight the boss
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>>385206128
He's not me
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>starting with latest in series
Retard. Bet you just wanted to get on the "hype train" instead of playing it out of genuine interest.
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>>385205694
>manual stat distribution
So, how do I make sure I don't make an unwinnable build?
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>>385206354
>just wanted to get on the "hype train" instead of playing it out of genuine interest.
That's probably the case
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>>385206091
Well a lot of the challenge comes in with maintaining your SP and getting as far into the dungeon as you can on he least amount of days.
If you just casually leave then that may be why you find it easy, the price your paying for that is losing additional days you could use to level up confidents and social ranks.
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>>385206495
>>385206354
why not both? I got hyped and I like JRPGS so why not?
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>>385207036
The problem is your interest comes from you being hyped and not the opposite which can lead to absurd expectations and easy diappointement
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>>385207519
I just expected an engaging story, dungeon running and decent dialogue. Like, a good game
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>>385204297
play it on hard then, faggot
>other complaints boil down to 'this is to anime for me, /v/'
dont play it, you should have expected that going in and if you go in and then complain about something as obvious as that, you're a fucking idiot.
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>>385207626
oh you're just baiting then?
anyone like you would have thrown this tantrum way before the 10 hour mark.
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>>385207626
See, that's the issue, you didn't play the game because you know the series and played the previous ones, so what happened is that you had to make yourself an idea of how the game could turn out to be so you based it on your other Jrpg experiences instead of the most logical comparison games which are the previous entries. It leads to you not being able to see the evolution of the franchise, what got better or what got worse, and comparing it to completely different game expecting something that looks like the same type of "good" as those games.
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>>385207626
Whoa there Bait-sama you sure showed us with your hot opinions, kill yourself faglord and stop baiting
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You could try bumping up the difficulty, OP. I've only played it on Merciless (I've played other titles in the series) and found it borderline easy.

However if the story+characters+general tone and a e s t h e t i c s isn't your jam at this point of the game (I consider the first 10h to be a VERY strong start), it most likely won't change later.
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>>385206181
Yeah the we have to change their cognition thing got old after Madarame.
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>>385208147
>>385207857

He's right. From 3 onward, Persona have terrible boring overextended story and bland archetype as characters.

They will tell you there's characters developements but honestly if you ever played or seen more than two animes you can already guess how every characters will turn out.
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>>385208483
>He's right
>I'm right
ftfy faggot
you aren't shocking anyone with these posts
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>>385208483
This is the last (you) you're getting, fuck off
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>>385204297

>Battles are so easy
>only 10 hours in, first 5 hours are tutorials
>it's like 5% of whole game.
>probably plays at easy
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>>385208707
>Can't find an argument

Yeah, I sure like how this rebel character end up learning responsability and selflesness.
Or how this stuck-up perfect girl learn to relax a bit.
Nice.
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>>385208884
i dont argue with apes, anon
its not worth it, especially when the ape is picking a fight for no reason. better to just look away and make your way out of the ghetto
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>>385208289
Thats what you get for playing Merciless which massively increases crit damage which benefits the player way more because enemies are too dumb to crit that often. Hard is harder.
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>>385208707
>>385208767
Holy fuck is this the persona fanbase? I thought bloodborne was bad enough
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>>385208978
>can't defend your shit game
>runs off
Shoo!
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>>385209012
Yes we're mean as fuck and we are going to make you cry if you keep talking with us, you should go back to PLEBBIT where you will get treated with respect, otherwise KILL YOURSELF
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>>385208978
Then why are you giving me you
Still no argument btw
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>>385209012
>>385209095
>one screaming monkey attracts others
just like the ghetto
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>>385209105
>mean
More like autistic.
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>>385204297
>overpowered
>makes it slower
>dialogue is cringy
>characters are ok

At least make your bait consistent OP

Here's you (You)
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>>385209167
THREE
three screaming monkeys lol :^) at least your trapped behind your computer screen so you can only trash your own shit in rage
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>>385209173
>Game preach friendship and understanding
>Fan is racist
It just keep becoming better.
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>>385204297
Im 25 hours in and the game is fucking amazing
Its just not for you, next time do your research instead of failing for the hype you sheep
Im glad you hate it, fucking bandwagons jumpers are the worst
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>>385205384
>playing on anything but hard and complaining about difficulty
>staying on normal even though you can switch difficulties at any time

You're more of a faggot than I thought initially, impressive.
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>>385209242
>It just keep becoming better.
>complaining about racism on 4chan
LOL third worlders really should not go places they don't belong
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>>385204297
>10 hours in
>Complains about how dungeons work

Either this is bait or Personababbies can't into long dungeons.
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>>385209262
The thing is: people on /v/ advertize it as a good story. I'm sure this anon and other already played good story games and though this one would be good too.
Of course he was wrong.
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>>385209223
Do you even know where you are? guess you are a newfag after all. again kill yourself nigger you don't belong here.

>>385209242
Go back NIGGER
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>>385209227
Having a dominant strategy that can win you 99% of battles does not make those battles less tedious

Having good personalities and interesting backstory for the characters does not excuse the shit dialogue

Are you retarded by any chance
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>>385208987
You don't get to level as much because you get 0.4 money and exp, though. And bosses hit harder and can eff you up if not prepared.

I somewhat agree that Hard may be a better experience overall, though; I just can't say from personal experience yet.
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>>385209392
Good is subjective, are you 12 or something?
Its a visual novel with some dungeon crawling on top this has been the case for a decade with this series, if you dont like the pacing of visuals novels why would you ever consider this game.
Have you even played a VN before? I bet you havent you newfag, you should know what you were getting into

Also tell me a game with a story you consider good
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>>385209398
>do you know where you are
Sure, but jesus you fags are autistic as fuck, even more so than the rest of the board.

>>385209262
Guess I as well fell for the shilling on /v/
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>>385209502
Harder is better than merciless the crit, technical weakness triple damage you get on merciless is way too generous
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>>385209526
If you don't like it you can go back to plebbit or neofag or whatever shithole you crawled out of.
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>>385209526
Discussing a game people like isnt shilling.
Grow a brain
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>>385209512
Yeah I did play many VNs. Liked 999 in particular

Also a game with a good story? Ghost Trick. Good pacing, charming characters and the gameplay sections in between are varied. The story itself is simple but the game pulls it off extremely well. The twist was good too, better executed and hidden than the one in Persona 5's
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>>385209613
But neofag loves it because it is a sony exclusive. Persona 5 is also the fastest selling Persona so far, so far more normies are playing it. It's no longer a niche game.

>>385209658
>dude the game has a good story lmao
>dude the gameplay is the best in all the SMTs lmao
>dude the dungeons are actually good lmao
All wrong
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>>385209684
>999
>ghost trick
Figures. You forgot hotel dusk.
You guys are like walking stereotypes. Not that Im defending weebs those are also pretty bad.

Bottom line is do your research better next time there is no one to blame but yourself.
I never buy a game I dont love.
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>>385209784
The same neofag that complains about diversity and the lack of homosexuality and trannies in it? You must be from plebbit then
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>>385209784
>opinions
>wrong

Go away
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>>385209802
Hotel dusk was great, yeah I agree.

I researched the game but didn't want to spoil myself. I found out that it was a VN mixed with a standard turn based RPG and hey how awesome does that sound? And then the story is shit (and really fucking predictable) and the gameplay is so repetitive and boring. What a disappointment
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>>385209839
Neofag likes that P5 has really SJW themes (dude friendship lmao, dude capitalism is evil lmao), and they wish they could steal trump's heart
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>>385204297
>battles are so easy you can just use the same strategy over and over again until you get to a boss
then stop playing on easy and play on merciless you casual tard. The point of the combat is to exploit weakness

>"sneak" is overpowered bullcrap that makes the gameplay so much slower than it actually should be
Go right ahead and try to rambo everything. You'll never finish the dungeon with high security level without sneaking

>dungeon feels so poorly designed and drag on for way too long
Your more pathetic at this game than I thought if you think the 1st dungeon drags on too long

>dialogue is cringy shit
You haven't played Fire emblem Fates have you?

>characters are okay
>pacing is shit, and the story doesn't seem to be very interesting
They get better later on.

>music is great
Of course its great, its a fucking Atlus game
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>>385209919
>And then the story is shit (and really fucking predictable) and the gameplay is so repetitive and boring. What a disappointment
That's kinda bait
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>>385210173
Not him but I played on merciless, and it's even worse there. Enemies don't take much stratergy to beat once you find out their weakness (which is pretty damn fast) and then it devolves into spamming the right attacks again. Plus it further deincentivizes you to go rambo and almost force stealth as a means to get rid of enemies quicker, further slowing down gameplay. The bad dialogue in another game also does not excuse the bad dialogue in this one

Also the pacing is shit throughout, and the characters later on get worse as they have less and less screen time to flesh them out
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>>385210075
>fraternity
>sjw
You wot?
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The only bad thing about P5 is the translation.
If you dont like the story you dont like japanese otaku stories and in that case why are you on this site
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>>385204297
drop it and play nocturne faggot
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>>385210282
>bait
Not an argument

But let me elaborate

Every single story villain plays out the same.
>he kills kittens I think he's bad
>we should research more
>OH SHIT HE SETS ORPHANS ON FIRE AS WELL
>let's go steal his heart! (tm)

The TWEEEST can be seen for miles away as well
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We have this exact same thread every time a Persona game comes out.
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>>385210476
This game is not for you i don't really know what else to tell you man, if you want overly complex story go read a fucking book or something
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>>385210408
P4 had a better otaku story and better characters as well TBHFAM
>>385210379
Persona 5 has plenty of SJW themes. The most obvious one is that stealing someone's heart is literally an SJW'S wet dream
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>>385210541

We had this exact same thread almost daily since April, lol.
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>>385210594
I swear most the the replies are copy pasted from when P3 came out
>why is this popular wahhh
>stop liking it waahhh
>shit story waaahhh
>game is hit weakness over and over waahhhh

Its never going to end is it
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>>385210572
>if you want a complex story go read a book
Is this the best defense you have for an overly predictable and repetitive story? In a game that is 70% story?

Persona 3 did it much much better. Persona 4 did it even worse
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>>385210667
>Its never going to end is it

Eh, who cares. Nothing will stop me from enjoying these games except for the games themselves where applicable.

These threads are nice for getting some perspective and some laughs, though.
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>>385210686
I ain't defending shit man (you think this is some kind of war in here ?), like whatever you want i'm just telling you, you don't like the game, that's fine it's just not for you , the end.
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>>385210572
If you play Persona for the gameplay why are you playing persona at all?
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>>385204297
>only in the first dungeon
>WHY IS THIS GAME SO EASY???
>WHY HAVEN'T ALL OF THE CHARACTERS BEEN FLESHED OUT IN THE 10 HOURS I PLAYED???
Fuck off, you retard.
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>>385204475
Is this your first Persona game? If so, it might just not be your kind of game. Persona is like an anime in vidya form, and personally that speaks to me since I'm a massive weeb.

A big part of the game is the social aspect where you meet all the different confidants/social links, and hang out with them/romance them and learn their story. Then there's the Persona aspect, where you aquire new ones and experiment to fuse new ones which can be pretty cool. If the story and gameplay doesn't hook you, then you might be in for a hard time.

TLDR: It's literally a highschool anime in vidya form.
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>>385210942
>If you play Persona for the gameplay
Who said that ?
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>>385210573
>brainwashing is sjw
>convincing evil people to not be evil is sjw
not sure if you know what the term means.
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>>385210925
Then don't act as if people should not expect a good story given that Persona games had a much better story before. The series really went downhill story and character-wise from 3 onwards
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>>385211005
>implying SJW's wouldn't love brainwashing """evil""" people to bend them to their will
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>>385210961
He said the characters are good though, which I find utterly wrong but whatever
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>>385205638
>REEEEEEEEE DONT TALK SHIT ABOUT MY WAIFUS GAME

I like persona but if you genuinely think it has no flaws then you're a fucking idiot.
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>>385211005

Not him, but I think his original point is the fact that the power fantasy that P5 provides attracts more than an average number of SJW types (as I've also noticed online)

Although this is a non-argument and this whole back and forth is dumb. Stop guys. I love you.
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>>385204297
it doesn't
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>>385204297
The problem with this game is it's marketed in mainstream while it's core audience is a niche group of people. So a lot of people who'll never enjoy such a game buys it and regrets it afterwards.
It's one of my favorite games of this decade but if you don't think you belong in the core audience or game does capture your interest in the first 10 hours, return it if you can. You'll just burn yourself out and have a bad time. Just get something you think you'll have fun.
That's the point of video games, isn't it anon-kun?
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>>385211179
>ENG instead of JPN voices
my person of relative darker skin color, please fix your faults at once
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>>385211026
Expect whatever you want man, "good" story that's subjective as fuck
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>>385211239
Fuck off, I liked persona before the shitshow that was 4. 5 is better but still not good, which is a shame because persona was one of my favourite series. I am definitely in the core
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>>385211321
NG+ my african american
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>>385211239
>So a lot of people who'll never enjoy such a game buys it and regrets it afterwards.
Yep this is exactly what is happening, Im seeing it everywhere
Why are people specially normalfags so easily manipulated with hype and ads?
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>Playing this worthless pile of shit in the first place

You deserve it
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>>385211340
Dont worry there are bitches like you in every core fanbase Ive ever been to. You are accounted for.
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>>385211337
For one, it should not be the same story repeated over and over again
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>>385210476
>Every single story villain plays out the same.

The third villain is an already established mob boss whom you are trying to make pay for his (already known) crimes. The fourth 'villain' is Futaba, a girl who is coping with the 'suicide' of her mother and thus has become a shut-in afraid of the world. The fifth 'villain' is a public prosecutor who hasn't actually done anything wrong, but envy and pride has corrupted her job and her personal life. And the sixth one is fucking Shido, the guy from the beginning.
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>dungeon feels so poorly designed and drag on for way too long
Name a game you feel does dungeons right. Make it a 3D game.
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>>385204297
Just drop it if you don't like it. The castle is the best part of the game so if you don't like the beginning you won't like the rest. P5 gets worse as you play.
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>>385211507
You forgot Okumura
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>>385205694
>not the famicom version
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>>385211507
Am I wrong though? Their sequences play out in the exact same way. No variation at all. Their backstory might be different but the lead up and the actions in their dungeons are almost identical in terms of what you do and see

>>385211509
SMT6 :^)
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>>385211601
Oh yeah, my bad, but Okumura is also a unique villain in the sense that he's another facet of corruption in the Japanese political system.
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>>385206354
Don't be a meanie, I got on the p5 hype train and I'm playing through p4g now, after having finished FES.
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>>385211509
Any Nocturne Dungeon. Any Zelda game.
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>assblasted weaboos trying to defend their shitty interactive anime

Time for sudoku
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>>385211691
I don't it's wrong that you have the same modus operandi for every 'villain'. The gameplay is also varied enough that the similarities between your approach to every villain play out very differently due that they're all unique in nature.
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>>385211759
>Any Zelda game
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>385211770
you need to go back
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>>385211967
Ebin you autist.
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>>385211904
Why can't your modus operandi be a little more varied? It feels like you're going through the motions after the second time
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>>385204297
No. You fell for the Persona meme.
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>>385212000
you need to kys

nice trips btw
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>>385204297
It appears as though your taste is complete shit. Just drop the game now before you kill yourself from boredom.
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Should I romance Futaba or Makoto?
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>>385212457
yes
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>>385212457
Both.
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>>385205124
not that guy but the sneak function in p5 was way too easy, only fights you got ambushed in were scripted or by missclicking and thus rushing right in front of the enemy.

that being said i think persona just isn't for OP
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>>385206128
isn't that like going "oh you dont like the latest adam sandler movie, maybe you should just watch casablanca" then calling him a faggot for not enjoying black and white films.
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>>385213239
It would probably be more like "You don't like the latest Adam Sandler movie? Go watch his very first movie and see if you like it." Seeing as MT is the roots of SMT which is the Roots of Persona.
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>>385212457
Everyone in your first run, just for the content. Only your true waifu in NG+.
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Refund it and by dream daddy on steam instead
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>>385205507
>It's literally one of the worst SMT/Persona games
>when P1,2,3, nocturne exist
?
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>>385215603
You missed out on 4
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Game is good
>Character get better if you interact with them
>Story gets better midway but a little rushed through the lasts parts
>some plot devices can get a little tiresome (like the cat being used to tell you to not do shit and waste a nght)
>Pre final boss music is one of the most amazing things ever
>game can be finished after 90hrs if you're not a casual
>Tactic are useless if you prepare properly combat is the easiest in the franchise indeed, hard mode recommended
>Tutorials never end, just go along with it
>Waifus are great, all of them
>Trying to finish a palace on one day is a must since time management is really important
>you can't really 100% this game until NG+ unless you have a really precise guide
>Kamoshida did nothing wrong
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Yeah 4 too, because nostalgia. But i really cannot understand those dumbfucks keep saying it worse than P1,2,3 and 4, how the fuck?
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>>385215952
Mean for
>>385215706
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>>385205152
You won't like it. Why did you even pick it up, since I'm guessing you don't like JRPGs in general? There's plenty of things wrong with P5, a lot of critical ones with story, but overall its still is an enjoyable JRPG.

How retarded can one get, jesus.
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Feel like we has this thread every days, is this some kind of P5 hater something?
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>>385216175
>Every day
You mean every 5 hours right?
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>>385216175
P5 hater here, I'm doing every dingle one of those thread. I keep going on with microsleep of 2 hours at best and testosteron injection (i'm a nurse).

I've never played the serie nor watched a playthrough but the more I read those thread the more my knowledge of the game grow, along with my ability to shit on it.
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>>385204297
I thought this game was easy and redundant. They just kept repeating themselves after every boss and nothing happened until the last 3 dungeons. I thought Persona 3/4 were much better jrpgs. Each one got easier, p5 was a 6/10 for me
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>>385216542
>(i'm a nurse)
If one of your patient is fan what do you do ?
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Ah I see how things goes. If it almost reach page 10 he bumped it again.
Truly a dedication.
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>>385217685
7592 here, I saw it on the catalog and responded. I finished it last night, it isn't a conspiracy retard, I just wanted to share my thoughts on the game, I like the persona series a bunch.
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>>385211759
>Any Nocturne Dungeon
>
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>>385215941
>Story gets better midway but a little rushed through the lasts parts
This is the opposite of true.
About midway is where the Medjed bullshit starts and that's already after Kaneshiro's dungeon which is a massive drop in quality in terms of writing. The stupid hacker group shit being a set-up and really the whole "conspiracy" in general was so fucking poorly done, not to mention the final twist is literally Innocent Sin's final twist. I just felt that the game would've done a lot better if the antagonists were (at least mostly) unrelated.
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>>385206478
WORLD
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>>385218348
OF
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>>385217592
>I thought Persona 3/4 were much better jrpgs
How the fuck?
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>>385218348
Does that mean I just focus on STR/VIT and completely ignore the other stats until they're maxed out?
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>>385204297
If you think the dungeons are too long you should play more games. It takes two in game days to finish a dungeon.
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>>385217671
I don't talk video games with my patients because it may subconsciously influence how I treat them.
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>>385205152
You are willing to get 80% into the game when the story itself picks up, but you aren't truly invested already? All your qualms are genersal JRPG things so either you don't like JRPGS, you don't like the premise or both. Just drop it.
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>>385218270
>not to mention the final twist is literally Innocent Sin's final twist
I'm glad I didn't play that one then.
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>>385218840
Better story, better characters, better pacing, p4 had better dungeons, better social links. What's persona 5 have over these two? Visuals? I'm not going to say gameplay because the sneaking mechanic makes it a joke and feels like a ps2 game, it's differnet but I wouldn't call it an improvement.
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>>385220848
>Better story, better characters, better pacing, p4 had better dungeons, better social links.
Contrarian confirmed
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>>385220848
>Better story, better characters, better pacing, p4 had better dungeons, better social links.
Story and character are subjectives, but P4 had better dungeons? Now we all know you're a bait.
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>>385220831
Who did you care about in p5? I didn't give a shit about anyone. Oh no Ann won't be the best model ever!! Oh no haru is rich as fuck! Oh no ryuji let down the track team! Futaba is a cool l33t hacker!!! Greatest characters of all time!!! Wow, did it work guys? I love hearing "did it work I'm worried??" In the texts 393932 times between dungeons on my free time, not annoying at all! We gotta be famous and earn popularity, the worst plot the device for continuing to be phantom thieves!!!
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>>385220045
maybe he likes good jrpg
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nostalgia fag only
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>>385221296
Anon, if you bother to actually play the game you know that what you just describe is only a surface, the mask they wore. Their inner problem is much more than that.

Why are you so upset?
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>>385205152
Drop it and sell it on ebay to recoup your cash.
JRPGs are obviously not your thing, and that's fine.

You might enjoy a game with more action and more "Hollywood" level storytelling.

I hear Prey is pretty decent.
Also, BethesDoom is an exciting game with a very easy to grasp story that feels very mature and western.
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>>385221661
Don't worry, apparently we just reached the part of the /v/ cycle where "the game is obviously garbage and the older ones are better" yadda yadda
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>>385220848
>better characters, better pacing, p4 had better dungeons, better social links
How the fuck?
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>>385221574
I beat it last night, there was no inner problems for these surface level characters. I'm mad because I dumped 80 hours into something of significantly less quality than the last 2 persona games but everyone keeps telling me it's better. I can't believe people will defend this shitty writing and pacing. Was this your first jrpg??
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>>385221346
How do you measure good jrpg?
Because P5 could be in the good jrpg category.
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>>385211637
The famicom versions are actual dog shit.
They're slow as fuck, and there is no map.
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>>385221914
There is, you not knowing it just proved you didn't actually play the game.
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>>385221907
Why did you think this one was better? Who did you care about and why? Why were the dungeons better? Because of the gimmicky jump feature? Because of the cover feature? The puzzles were easy, there were too many safe rooms, there weren't interesting. Nanako's dungeon was more interesting in concept than anything in p5
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>>385221914
>I'm mad because I dumped 80 hours into something of significantly less quality than the last 2 persona games but everyone keeps telling me it's better.
It's a game, not an assignment. If you play a game with nothing but negative thought about it and forcing yourself to play it, no one will take your hatepost seriously.

Try to be level-headed if you want to criticize the game.
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>>385204297
Kill yourself
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>>385222223
>Why were the dungeons better?
Not being a generated hallways for one.
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>>385222295
I will agree that it felt like a chore to me, I felt bored and frustrated the entire time due to the redundant dialog and lack of challenge. I don't think this is my fault though. This was my most anticipated game of the year, all previous persona games were an absolute joy for me that I have played multiple times.

>>385222120
like I said, I beat it last night, please enlighten me. Morgana shows back up in February after saying goodbye the day you get released from prison.
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>>385221914
>I'm mad because I dumped 80 hours into something of significantly less quality than the last 2 persona games
>the last 2 persona games
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>>385221914
>significantly less quality than the last 2 persona games
>yeah look at me i'm the definition of hipster shit
Next time you tell me Tokyo Mirage is better than P5 too
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>>385219006
>>385206478
In KMT1
Main character:
Str & Vit
Get about 16 speed so you can hit things too.
Everything spare into luck for delicious crits.
Female:
Pump Int and Vit.
Int+Level determines when you learn spells. igh int = earlier spells, and more SP. Attack magic is 90% useless in this game, so her entire reason to exist is to heal.
Once she has over 350 HP, pump Str so she's less useless.

KMT2:
MC: Str and Vit, and some Int, use ALL Int/Str Incenses on him to get him to 25 Int/30 Vit/35 Str (base stat, not with eq. boosts) by level 60-65. You need these stats for the best sword in the game. Int is mostly useless on MC, but it will give him significant magic defense, which is way more useful in KMT2 than 1. Consider giving MC luck incenses as well.

Partner:
Pump Int ASAP. Ignore Vit until Int is 30+. Use any Vit incenses you find on partner, then use any extra incense on Partner later.
Save your incense for when Partner or MC is low on HP, it restores HP and SP.

In both games, if you can find a demon with Estoma NEVER LOSE IT. Estoma is the most useful spell in the game.

Final advice:
There are many enemies in both games not worth fighting. They are either very tough with little or no exp bonus, or they can permanently drain levels from you.

In KMT2, enemies will begin to use Mudo to instant kill you as well.
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>>385222863
Main series, yeah. I don't mean Q which has a dogshit story but great gameplay and interesting/difficult puzzles. I mean the ps2 releases as well, not p4 golden or p3p
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>>385204297
>Plays on normal or safe
Change the difficulty and stop being a faggot.
Since this is your first you would not last on merciless so just go to hard.
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>>385222675
It your fault, if you didn't like it why the fuck are you keep playing it and bragging about it here? yeah we all know you don't like it and most of the people like it. What are you trying to achieve here?
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>>385223119
>pls stop enjoying new game, old games are better
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>>385223209
Pretty much this
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>P3 and 4 are better stop enjoying P5 REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>385223119
I want someone to explain to me why the story/characters meant more to them in this game than previous titles. I want someone else to tell me why getting the same series of texts 60 times after beating a dungeon didn't annoy them, or defend how the plot was aimless after Kamoshida until Sae's dungeon. (Minus futaba) So far I've just gotten one guy telling me I didn't play it and everyone else just calling me a hipster
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>>385222675
Got it, you don't need to make this thread every days to tell 4chan how much do you hate this game.
>literally autism
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>>385221895
Being the only person on /v/ who has played every MegaTen game (including Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei) I can say, without a doubt, that Persona 5 is in the top three of games in the series, and that no other Persona game is in the top 5.
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>>385223458
>I want someone to explain to me why the story/characters meant more to them in this game than previous titles. I want someone else to tell me why getting the same series of texts 60 times after beating a dungeon didn't annoy them, or defend how the plot was aimless after Kamoshida until Sae's dungeon.
Some like flat some like big and some like gigantic. Who are you? their dad? My god, what a faggot.
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>>385223326
I'm not even saying stop enjoying it, I'm just saying to realize it has faults and isn't the greatest jrpg of all time which is the ludicrous statement everyone has been throwing around online. I'd honestly give it a 6/10, which isn't a bad score. I just feel like it was a drop in quality from p3 which was an 8/10 for me and p4 which was a 9/10
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>>385223694
>greatest jrpg of all time
Who said that? it's a good game for other and a shit game for you, whatever.
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>>385223694
I disagree.
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>>385223458
Because personally, unlike the previous game it keep me being on edge. I don't get aloof school life like the previous entries, I just embraced what shit going to thrown off to the protag.
I don't mind the text because I don't have ADHD, it's just a text, either I read it or skipped it. But I usually read it because I'm playing a game without being forced by anyone, unlike some anon here who forced their way to play a game just to blend on /v/.

Aimless plot my ass, did you even know the context after the Kamoshida arc? If you pay any attention to that, there's a purpose of what the plot going. Like come on, man. You're being stale by keep posting the same shit over and over again.
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>>385223694
>I just feel like it was a drop in quality from p3 which was an 8/10 for me
Okay, are we done here?
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>>385223694
>I'm not even saying stop enjoying it, I'm just saying to realize it has faults and isn't the greatest jrpg of all time which is the ludicrous statement everyone has been throwing around online. I'd honestly give it a 6/10, which isn't a bad score. I just feel like it was a drop in quality from p3 which was an 8/10 for me and p4 which was a 9/10

When I first played Persona 3, I thought it was one of the coolest JRPGs ever. I still do... HOWEVER, that was because I was a teenager, objectively it's just as cringy as P5 and that's true for all JRPGs too.

So I think they are right that P5 is the best JRPG ever. The missing part is that all JRPGs suck and are meant for kids.

typical jrpg cringe pix attached
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>>385224135
Whatever you say grandpa.
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>>385223623
It's /v/, game is good on release and after that it becomes somewhat garbage and only "true" fans can see it, it's always like that
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>>385222978
Thank you.
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>>385224135
>The missing part is that all JRPGs suck and are meant for kids
Isn't that all video game? except FIFA i guess
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>>385224135
Name one video game isn't cringy
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>>385224338
>Isn't that all video game? except FIFA i guess
Most video games definitely. With the exception of Sports and Shooters, you can tell which games are meant for adults a protagonist that's age 25+.

A game like Witcher 3 with a protagonist that is ~40ish is still good as an adult. Some of the dialogue can be typical rpg repetitive but none is coming of age, rebelling against adults, teenage first love drama.
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>>385224470
>Name one video game isn't cringy

Witcher 3: Heart of Stone

It's a masterpiece. Best RPG ever.
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>>385224470
Persona Q
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>>385224854
>Witcher 3: Heart of Stone
Yeah try acting like Geralt the Sephiroth in RL m8
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>>385224854
>nothing personal kid i'm just a killer a monter hunter
LMAO
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>>385224854
>soapyduubiidoo story i cannot die i make a deal with devil aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa release me aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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>>385224761
>Shooters
What shooters you are talking about?
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>>385224761
>but none is coming of age, rebelling against adults, teenage first love drama
>playing a game about high school
>no i can't not allowed the idea coming of age, rebelling against adults, teenage first love drama in this high school rpg
Yeah, tell us about your brilliant high school rpg theme then, genius
>>
>>385225009

>>nothing personal kid i'm just a killer a monter hunter

vs,

>I'm gonna steal your heart and make you repent for your crimes.

I don't see a problem.

>>385225180
I meant shooters in general can be played by anyone from a kid whose balls haven't dropped to an old man.
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>>385225354
I don't see any problem either, they are both cringy and for kids
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>>385224761
>Some of the dialogue can be typical rpg repetitive but none is coming of age, rebelling against adults, teenage first love drama
Why not play something like SMT then? why are you complain about this shit when you playing a high school students save the world JRPG? are you for real?
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>>385225354
The point is they are both the same cringy shit, just one is from high schooler and another is from power male fantasy.
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>>385225464
>I don't see any problem either, they are both cringy and for kids

Heart of the stone is about marriage problems and being careful for what you wish for. The ending involves making a choice between two parties, both bad and needing to side with the lesser of two evils. It's gray area and morally ambiguous.

Persona and all jrpgs are about trying to describe real life problems but failing miserably because the characters are teenagers and then forgetting you even care about portraying real humans to fight am abstract convoluted god monster boss that goes on a monologue about wanting to punish humans for not being perfect. Obviously an allegory for metaphor for parents scolding a child and the child fighting back.

it's obvious one is targeted to adults and the other for teenagers.
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>>385225604
>Why not play something like SMT then? why are you complain about this shit when you playing a high school students save the world JRPG? are you for real?

I did. SMTIV:A is persona tier. And also they are just rehashing the same shit about [spoilers] Tokyo getting destroyed and needing to create a new world [/spoilers] from nocturne. I'm over that.

I'm going to play Vagrant Story next and see how it comes. I played a little and so far it seems promising.
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>>385226141
>because the characters are teenagers
No shit, sherlock is it a game with high school theme, you want those teenagers to fighting terrorism and racism to save the world or what? why aren't you compare Catherine with TW then?
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>>385204297
for me never got better
still in the pyramid boss and has absolute no desire to finished it
Instead i replayed IVA and trying to platinum crash.
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>>385226141
Ah I remember your post in every persona hate thread. It's the same over analyzing the game I like and dismiss everything about the game I hate as a teenager problem.

Real clever there. And great dedication too. Too bad knowing that you always monitoring /v/ just to post on Persona thread to flails how awesome Witcher 3 is in Persona thread.
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>>385226141
>gray area and morally ambiguous
Not possible in RL m8
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>>385221661
Not him but "hollywood" storytelling is kind of like persona to me. Boring, nothing funny, nothing deep.

Gardian of the galaxy is a good exemple of how I felt during my playthrough. For another video gape, I'll say Nu-raider.
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>>385221950
By how much I liked it.

Obviously P5 fall short.
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>>385226141
>marriage problems and being careful for what you wish for
Too bad none of this matter or any deep than those rebelling against adults, teenage first love drama themes, oh wait why are you trying to applied medieval fantasy with modern age idea here?
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>>385226609
Nah, by how much I liked it, it means P5 does indeed in good jrpg category. Thanks for clearing it up.
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>>385226609
Yeah, tell that to Japan or video game reviewers, i suppose? Probably not /v/ because fags on /v/ already played it and most of them like it.
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>>385226806
Because every witcher 3 thread he tried to create always died fast.
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>>385226141
>wanting to punish humans for not being perfect
>gray area and morally ambiguous
People like you should be punished, what a faglord. Thank god not everyone are into that gray area and morally ambiguous like you otherwise this planet will be done for.
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>>385204297
P5 was underwhelming and this is a fact
There is nothing wrong with this , is just wasn't that good
They need to put better substance next time , like better antagonist , SL with mini dungeons and not a daily mementos travel and more stuff to do.
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>>385226905
You're not me. By me I mean me because I know you have shit taste since you liked a gape I didn't like.

I am the only one fit to be the Judge of human taste.

>>385226964
>Japan
Dickless faggot full of manchildren and not me
>video game reviewer
Corrupts incomptents casuals and not me.
>/v/
Full of underage and not me
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>>385227146
A fact by who? it is a good game but not a perfect game that for sure, get over it.
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>>385227239
>I am the only one fit to be the Judge of human taste.
Exactly, and I'm your conscious. Deep down you know you're not being honest.
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>>385218270
Medjed and Kaneshiro's arcs were ok, considering how goofy the main plot is and how the game doesn't really takes itself too seriously you can just past through those with no problem without nitpicking that much. The real writing problem starts with Haru's introduction and the obvious rush to start the whole Akechi plot that it was so poorly presented that the whole thing is really difficult to get into because of 1 how obvious the reveal is, 2 how badly his whole confidant was handled and 3 the lack of any real "rivalry" between the MC and him, which was the whole point of their confidant/sl. Although Shido's battle is kinda cool you can see or sense that there probably is a lot of cut content from the last three palaces, specially regarding Haru and Shido's palace.
>>
>those posts are familliar
>TW3
Nevermind
>>
>God Tier
Kamoshida

>Great Tier
Futaba
Madarame

>Good Tier
Casino

>Decent tier
Kaneshiro
Burger King

>Shit tier
Akechi until the end


They really fucked up the ending. So fucking bad and rushed as shit
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>>385227390
Why?

>>385227489
This image is very telling of personafag tastes.

They think Lelouch is some kind of mastermind. I've only watched two episodes of code geass but this was the most incoherent anime i've ever watched.

Those arethe kind of people who tell you their games has a good story.
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>>385221950
>>385226905
>>385226964
>>385227146

Objectively Persona 5 it every single jrpg anime check box and is the most polished console jrpg ever. So doesn't that make it the best jrpg?

you fags complaining about p5 not being the best jrpg are the same way as:

>ff7fags complaining about ff10
>ff6fags complaining about ff7
>ff4fags complaining about ff6
>...

everyone thinks their [nostalgia game] is always the best.
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