Final Fantasy XII The Zodiac Age

>>385165721
Been grinding the lhusu mines. Still haven't really done much story-wise.

Got to the pirate village, going to take the time to do some hunts.

Going to Giruvegan, getting to Archades was a pain, I'll probably spend some time hunting shit
where did Ondore find so many battleships?

Was working on the plat till Zoidark made me rq for a couple days till I just berserk haste his bitch ass to death. Now I just got to finish the bestiary up and do the trials and ill be done. Love this game.Definitely the definitive version for sure

>>385166276
Anon, you get to pick them for TZA. Difference is you get two per character plus extra content

>>385166968
He is saying he likes the original board better.
>plus extra content
Is that right.

>>385166276
>Also, we have a board for generals
ffs TZA hasn't even been out for 2 weeks you fucking spaz

>>385166276
>I FUCKING LOVE ATTACK OF THE CLONES

>>385165721
Don't make Ashe a Time Mage/Knight like I did. It's worthless.

So is Balthier as Machinist/Archer

What came out great is Fran as Samurai/Red Mage and Basch as Knight/Breaker.

>>385166284
nethicite, son

>>385167170
Did they change the boards? And I thought they added content that was limited to japan in the original ps2 release

>>385167589
What about
Vaan as Monk/Time Mage
Ashe as Knight/White Mage
Fran as Archer/Red Mage

>>385167730
Its touched up release of the International version

>tfw there will never be a big-budget Matsuno game again
Can we like sacrifice Nomura to Satan or something?

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>>385167589
>made Ashe Knight/Time battlemage
>she's my most op character and she's not even the highest level character I have
>absolute cakewalk through the game because of her
>mfw I probably fucked up the jobs for every other character but somehow Ashe is styling on niggas even with supposedly shit job combo

oh well

>>385166196
Same here.

Kind of annoyed with how much of the License Boards I've already unlocked. The boards seem so small compared to the original, and I mostly just have equipment squares for stuff I haven't found yet left on them.

>>385166196
Most fun i had was taking on ring wyrm hunt at around level 20. Took me about a half hour to do it and man did it feel like an avcomplishment

>>385169029
I did the math on the knight board and its ~64% the amount of LP to finish as the original board. Add in a second board and subtract the duplicates and you can probably get close to 80% as long as its a good combo (not a lot of wasted overlap)

>>385167589
I looked over the boards and thought about follwing combinations
Vaan: Shikari + Knight/Breaker/Bushi
Balthier: White Mage + Time Mage/Machinist
Fran: Breaker + not sure, depends on what I'll get for Vaan I guess
Basch: Archer + Uhlan/Knight
Penelo: Black Mage + Red Mage/Monk
Ashe: Bushi + Knight

>>385166276
>Playing the original version because it actually allows me to give my characters whatever licenses I want.
What?
I never played the original but didn't they just enable second license boards for characters?
I read some FFXII threads and some stuff stuck (like Basch being the best Archer or Balthier the best White Mage)

>>385168430
Isn't he one of those devs that are in mobile hell?

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>>385165721
>Stole Maximilian, Ribbon, and Wyrmhero blade early.
I'm ready for Giruvegan.
>>385168452
Ashe should be a knight. I made her a Black Mage/Knight solely for the fact her whole deal revolves around magic (stones) and swords. I thought it fitting.
However Balthier is a Bushi/Knight because uh I like swords a lot.
>>385169278
I did that one at level 30 and it was really fun if only because I felt like I had total control over the fight. I put decoy on Basch (uhlan/time mage), hasted everyone and had Fran pelting him with a gun while Basch tanked and cut his HP down slowly but surely.

>>385169361
The subjobs kind of bugger up the extra areas a little too. Sometimes you can unlock one square on your first board and it'll give you access to locked areas on the second without using the required Quickening/Summon squares.

>>385169604
It was a fun fight. You can actually cheese it pretty easily with immobolize and a bunch of ranged characters. All hell cast is some weak magic.

Why are the hunts more fun than the story

>>385168452
Mine mains the crossbow and she has shit health stats and MP. Time magic isn't even all that useful.

>>385165721
The OG version has 1 license board per character and is the same for everyone.
In the late game you would arrive at a point where you had no variety and everyone was a redmage wielding a different weapon.

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>>385169975
>balance with your hp critical tank isnt all that useful
>haste isnt all that useful
>disable, immobolize, gravity...not useful

Foolish

>>385169574
>Balthier the best White Mage
I must be missing something, because I have him as Machinist/White Mage and he's the worst healer in my team. Vaan is Monk/Time Mage and Fran is Samurai/Knight, and they both put out twice as much healing compared to Balthier's equivalent spells.

>>385167589
Samurai (Bushi) / Red Mage is surprisingly good. It's almost broken. For whatever reason, Bushi's board is built like a caster only there's no spells. Only light armor and katanas but it gets tons of bonuses to MP regain and magick damage. Since it attacks so quickly it's always gaining mana. So you've got really high melee damage output, powered up casting and the highest MP regen in the game.

>>385170326
>For whatever reason, Bushi's board is built like a caster
Because katana benefits from magic

>>385169604
This is probably the ugliest remaster ever made.

>>385170219
>90% of the enemies you would actually need to use that stuff on are immune to it
>get instant hastega from motes
>bio > bleed
>weapons tend to inflict status effects anyway

It's just not working out for me.

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>>385170562
It's actually a great remaster. Was pleasantly surprised to see that it actually does look better. It especially looks great seeing the game rendered at 1080p compared to the old PS2 version.

>>385170831
>blur entire characters
The images are proving yourself wrong. That looks fucking bad.

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>>385171143
Nah it's good.

>bump into an invisble thing while exploring one of airships
>try interacting with it
>get a bow
>it's invisible
>no license requirements
>it deals a buttfuck load of damage
N-n-nani

>>385171143
>Not 100% perfect
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>385171228
>another picture with an entire characters blurred
Kill yourself shill.

>>385170831
This. You can't even get it to look this good even if you emulated the ps2 version.

Really surprised me how much work they put into this remaster.

>>385171286
Shit weapon sell it ASAP.

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>>385171403
Eh it pretty much never looks better than it does emulated. 4k vs blureverywhere

>>385171692
honestly, I'd rather deal with the perspective blur on the right than the "spin me around three times and point me in the right direction" blur on the left.

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>>385171692
The letterboxing legitimately bothers me but other than that it's a perfect upgrade. I only played the original FF12 before this.

>>385171692
Eh I get it you hate blur.
It's a great game even if you have to play it emulated. I played (mostly) through IZJS that way and it was decent.

>>385171286
>get a bow
>it's invisible
Not even considering the stupid requirements for getting it, what kind of retarded idea is having invisible weapons?

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>>385171941
> "spin me around three times and point me in the right direction" blur on the left.
?

>>385171962
A perfect upgrade isn't blurrier than the PS2 version.

>>385171968
So does everyone.

>>385172285
>So does everyone.

Sure thing, God.
Pls give blessings.

>>385172417
You're saying you like added blur that looks horrible? Wow.

>>385171692
Well, try looking at the textures

>>385172914
No I wanted blessings since you're all knowing and therefore some kind of deity.

>>385172939
You can't see them under the blur, but they are the same with a shitty filter applied to them.

>>385173253
All the textures now have normal maps. I don't know if you're smart enough to know what that is but that's something that wasn't present on the PS2.

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Guys, I'm stumped.
I've never played a final fantasy with a job system, so I'm not sure what licenses to assigned each party member.
I'm looking at their stats right now and, honestly, I don't even know why I bother looking when I understand what the fuck I'm looking at anyway.[/spoiler]

>>385173253
*tips fedora*
I see you too have patrician taste, fellow PC Masterrace

>>385173353
>All the textures now have normal maps.
No they don't.

>>385172285
Look at this lil nigga who doesn't know what DOF is lmao

>>385173704
Come now anon it's rude to bully the retarded kid.

>>385167589

No class matters besides Black Mage, White Mage, and Shikari.

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I just got to Draklor after getting my precious sandalwood

>>385165721
Did all the hunts I could do before Pharos and the only espers left that aren't story related or Zodiark are Exodus and Zeromus. Trying to get some ultimate equipment along the way without having to resort to Cerobi Steppe since the RNG program crashes every time I try to use it.

>>385165721
Fucking gay ps4 keeps ejecting the disc but Im getting Zodiark, finishing the last 20 or so rare game and the last couple hunts

>tfw you learned that HP and MP gained at level up is affected by RNG

>>385174668
Don't do this to me, dude.

Played this game back when it came out, loved it and beat the shit out of it doing almost everything minus yiazmat. Is this version worth getting? I still have my PS2 copy if I ever wanna replay it.

>>385173704
In focus things are blurred too, it's more than DOF and both blur passes look god awful. The original game had DOF too, nigga.

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>>385174837

>he didn't min-max his level ups

better restart your game, anon

>>385174864
If you want. It's different from the PS2 original.

>>385174837
It doesnt matter since bubble is in the game

what are some good gambit combinations for my offensive spell casters? specifically black mage.

or is that not a thing and im better off just casting specific spells myself?

I got lost in the great crystal for an hour, stumbled upon ultima, fought her for the first time compleatly blind, beat her first try barely, got her excalibur, now doing hunts whith white robes +excalibur on my ashe.

This game is fucking amazing.

>>385174837
anon, it's even worse than you think.

>https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/191202-final-fantasy-xii-the-zodiac-age/75590356
>Manipulating RNG to maximize stat ups (HP/MP
>It's not a few dozen. It's atleast 800 HP difference on level 99.
>Vaan level 99 HP: 4786~5643, MP: 473~786. Same goes for other characters.

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How will I know what licenses I want to assign everyone?
Will it come naturally to me?

>>385175231
What level would you reccomend for fighting Ultima and Zodiark?

>>385166276
>please make it so I can run around with nothing but greatswords casting protectga and shellga

People like you are why they added classes.

>>385175450
75

>>385175397
There's a lore friendly job guide that usually gets pasted in these threads. It's not min-maxed but it is optimized for what it sets out to do which is to give jobs close to how the setting/promo art portrays the characters and giving you one of each job for variety.

>>385175269
>473~786
Jesus fucking christ square enix what the hell did I ever do to you?

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>>385175707
You mean this?

>>385176024
Ashe is usually chosen as White/Time because she was portrayed as a White Mage in promo materials and was a Time Mage in Revenant Wings.

>>385176242
Greatsword is canon for Ashe. And revenant wings is a shitty Toriyama spin-off.

>>385166284
THE NETHICITE IS OURS TO GIVE, TO CHOSEN
BEARER OR TO NONE.

>>385175450
I fought ultima at around 50, but I used my whole party. I uploaded my shitty battle of it too if you wanna see it. Not gona post it though unless someone wants to see it.

>>385176517
Did you use Reddas?
>>385176410
fucking occuria

>>385176324
Wyrmhero Blade doesn't need a license and it has perma Faith.

Are Occuria even mentioned in the Ivalice Alliance ever again? Or did they fuck off back to their own dimension after the Sun Cryst was destroyed?

>>385176581
No, I did it right after he leaves.

>>385175225
My fran black mage/white mage combo

Ally status <40 health cure/cura etc (what ever you have)
Enemy status reflect attack/dispel(if you have it)
Fire weak fire
Thunder weak thunder
Ice weak blizzard
Other elemetal types etc
Nearest enemy shock(this will be used on enemies with no elemental weakness)
Self mp<10% attack( simple when mp is low attack, when you unlock siphon use it to steal mp off of friendlies instead so you can always use shock)
Self faith (if you have this/ this will activate while out of battle if you put last)

>>385175450
Ultima isn't too bad if you are in the early 50s. Just set up reflect on your party and have a red mage nuke everyone with darkga.

>>385175868
Pretty sure you can beat every encounter in the game regardless.

lore-wise, how powerful is zodiark?

Is there a definitive set of best job combos? Like am I fucked if I made vaan a sgikari and Penelo a WM? Also I want I make Ashe a pally, and Busch either a knight or samurai. Also what's best for balthirr? I'm guessing guns?

>>385177064
The game is still balanced around IZJS which only had single jobs. There's literally no way you can pick job choices that block progress.

Wondering why I can get Demonsbane in the tomb on my PS2 copy, but for whatever reason they took it out on the PS4 copy. If the only point is a mote, then why keep that optional shithead there?

>>385177317
Yeah, that was pretty fucked up. I felt like they should have at least moved Shades of Black down there or something.

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>>385177172

What if I make everyone a foebreaker and become the bomb squad

Opinion time: Does 4x speed unbalance the game?

>>385175397
>>385175707
Probably this one.

Vaan- Shikari / Foebreaker - Zalera, Adrammelech - Q2, Q3, Q4
Penelo- Monk / Black Mage - Chaos - Q1, Q2, Q4
Balthier- Machinist / Uhlan - Famfrit - Q1, Q3, Q4
Fran- Archer / Red Battlemage - Shemhezai, Cuchulainn, Zodiark - Q1, Q2, Q4
Ashe- White Mage / Time Battlemage - Belias, Zeromus - Q1, Q2, Q3
Basch- Knight / Bushi - Mateus, Hashmal, Ultima, Exodus - Q2, Q3, Q4

You can throw Zodiark to Ashe if you want to give her access to swords but you can just as well use >>385176592. Wyrmhero is a good stat stick cause of Faith and +50 evasion. It's fucking terrible as an actual weapon but that doesn't matter for White/Time.

>>385177048
Crazy fucking strong. All espers are imprisioned because they went stray from the gods and tried to usurp them. Except zodiark. Zodiark was imprisioned because he was so strong, too strong to leave alone.

He is a child when you fight him, and only when he doea final ecplise is when he is in his adult form.

>>385176894
oh so theres no general "attack weakness" gambit?
gotta assign them differently for each element? that kinda sucks. but i guess the game gives you a ton of gambit slots so it doesnt become a bother, right?

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Rate my team, just beat zodiark.

Pretty early game(just got penelo) and it looks like I get 1 lp for every enemy kill. Theoretically can I just grind the desert and get a shit ton of lp for vaan now?

>>385177529
Yes. 2x did.

>>385177487
I kept reloading because I knew it used to be down there randomly until I said fuck it and looked online.

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>>385178104
Yeah, eventually you will unlock enough slots so most weakness are covered, i do like to be able to have some control though so when i need to cast protect, bubble etc i do that myself. Here is how i set out my general black mage/white mage combo.

i fell asleep during the 30 minute opening movie and havent turned it on since

>>385178489
Lp is worthless about 10 hours into the game because not every class utilizes every gambit slot and most of the squares you'll dump points on are accessory and gear license which you should buy when you get the actual accessories so you won't waste points on lower tier ones

>>385178489
you can but youre better off just doing the trial mode "exploit" you get more LP that way.

>save your game
>load up trial mode
>first stage of trial mode, run up to the left and loot the crystal/treasure chest for the diamond Armlet (not really necessary but it sells for 6000 gil so might as well loot this every time since it always appears there)
>beat as many stages as you can
>load up your game
>save game
>rinse and repeat

you generally get more LP this way even if it does seem slower because of all the loading and such. you also earn lots of gil because of the diamond armlet.
also, one of the early stages with all the catcus enemey has a hidden enemy that pops up if you run down the hill. super easy to kill and it gives you like 16LP.

this is what i did for a bit. mostly for the gil really though.

I don't have the HD version, just the ps2 Zodiac Job System, c-can i still hang around with you guys?

>>385179047
it's best to do this when you have a guest with you

Just got done with Raithwall's tomb and getting my shit kicked in by these hunts. One is a rank 3 and one is a rank 5. Just how autistically am I supposed to grind. The ring wyrm is 2 shotting people

>>385179461
Did you kill both walls?

>>385179673
I ran from the first one since the game made it seem like you had to. Let me guess I missed some awesome shit

>>385165721
This game is pretty fun. Shame I never played it when it first came out but I'm loving it so far.

Also, when does Fran unlock her 2nd license board?

>>385179253
How are you going to hang with people grinding 8x as fast and being able to cast 3x Holy at once due to no effect capacity

>>385179884
No not really you kill it activate a gen in a wall behind it, fight a lot of fluid monsters and bats for 1 chest I forgot what I got.

sorry, just started. how do i unlock/buy the stuff for machinist?
i bought those "measures" things on the license board but i cant use them.

same goes with the green magic stuff in the white mage.
I dont recall ever seeing a vendor with these things.

>>385180192
You don't need it yet so the game I guess blocks it until you need them as the story progresses.

>>385180192
different vendors have different stock. also vendors are terrible.

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Good to see that you're all finally appreciating XII the way everyone always should have

Now, say ONE nice thing about FFXII

>>385180301
oh. well that seems dumb.
i feel like im just gonna rely on auto attack for a while instead of actually using skills in battles.
is this normal?

>>385180495
penole is made for breeding

>>385180513
You rely on auto attack for the entirety of the story. Only when you reach the (extensive, like an entire sequel of content) optional endgame do you need strategy.

I beat it the other day but really thought it dragged

Story goes to shit in the final act too and the Pharos dungeon is awful

Help me out: was this the game that if you didn't open a certain box would summon the strongest weapon in the game later?

>>385174124
Make sure you've got all the variables set correctly for the RNG Helper. Also, it likes to crash after doing about 5 searches, but you're able to find your spot in the list after 4 at the most. Just restart your search if you do a bunch of stuff after finding your location instead of resuming it.

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>>385180961

They got rid of that in IZJS

How do you get the good weapons and armor?

I'm at the end game, level 70, and I can't go into the new section of the Henne Mines without getting utterly rekt by those jelly monsters.

>>385180961
It was; izjs and zodiac age no longer do this.

>>385181068
>>385180961
and replaced it with something even worse*. RNG.

>>385180961
they got rid of that and then put in an even stronger weapon that has like a super fucking low chance of getting and the chest its in also has a low chance of actually appearing.

>>385181462
that shit isn't a real weapon, it's an easter egg. it doesn't even have a model.

What's the best job for Penelo? Black Mage? White Mage? Red Mage?

>>385181574
There are several new weapons in IZJS that have no model. The devs did this on purpose.

>>385181657
monk/black mage
lodsa health, lots of fast, decent utility, sick magic deeps

>>385181657

Any of those, yeah. Ashe is equally good at magic too.

I went White mage with Penelo and Black with Ashe

>>385181657
Mine is Red Battlemage/Black Mage. I usually use her as a nuker, but she can also do backup support with either Balthier (Knight/Bushi) or Ashe (Black Mage/Monk) for when I'm not running my White Mage/Machinist. I usually roll with Vaan (Shikari/Bushi) as my main damage dealer, Basch (Uhlan/Time Battlemage) as my tank, and Fran (White Mage/Machinist) as healer. The others get swapped in depending on what I need.

>>385165721
>What's your status?
i too just got to the pirate town and am doing hunts
Then I'm heading down to the best dungeon ever
GIRU
FUCKING
VEGAN

has anyone actually tried this to get that damn bow?
http://gameidealist.com/editorials/strategy-guides/guaranteed-method-obtaining-seitengrat-best-weapon-final-fantasy-xii-zodiac-age/

>Finished the ring wyrm hunt after getting the dawn shard

fucking hell that took forever. I don't even know how I managed it.

>>385177172
If you pick melee-onle classes that have 0 access to magick, you'd be proper fucked before long.

>>385183340
not really, a lot of melee weapons can hit fliers now and the jobs that don't have weapons that can hit fliers have access to telekinesis. the sole exception would be samurai but that still has shades of black. You'd have to be some turbo weeb to field 6 samurai.

so i just tried this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VpFs1O8s9I to get the bow and it actually did work.
ill probably not play it with the bow though since that weapon is rather game breaking. kinda neat that someone already figured out to manipulate the RNG though.

>>385165721
>What's your status?
Waiting for a price drop

>>385175218
bubbled HP no longer caps at 9999

directly target a character that is at 9999 hp and you will see its actually higher.

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>>385178323
>using penelo

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When do we get a remastered version of IX now

>>385187002
they already made it for the PC.

the steam version has new textures so technically its a remaster.

>>385180050
its a scathe mote

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>>385186915

I use Balthier/Fran/Penelo mostly with some occasional Basch/Ashe

Who here benches Vann entirely? Why?

Can I play as anyone I want

>>385186915

>Not using everyone

>>385188060
me every run
because hes a shit character

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>>385188060

me in the post above yours

I never liked him even if he does have good stats

>>385188127
once you unlock everyone, yes.
and you do so fairly early in the game.

>>385189273
Excellent. Will they cut off characters in the story forcing you to use others? Because I plan on benching everybody in favor of Basche/Fran/Ashe

>>385189447
>fran
>character with the worst stats

kek

>>385189520
Oh is she bad? I just like her because she's a sexy bunny girl.

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Did you guys know that gurdy is

C U T E
U
T
E

>>385189731
That spoiler did not come out as good as I thought it would. I am actually kinda sad.

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>>385189731

>>385165721
>PC version never ever

why even bother. I'll just emulate the normal version without IZJS.

I took a liking of it. I'm not the biggest fan of class restrictions and I also discovered that the fast forward button kinda ruins the experience.

>>385189731
what a fcuking whore.
the male ones are cuter.

>tfw Ivalice RPG with moogles and bangaa to play as.

>>385190021
Do not blaspheme my queen.

Got the platinum trophy last night, ask me anything.

>>385190235

how was Trial Mode?

>>385190235
What trophy did you get last night

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>>385190235

How much longer do you have to live?

>>385190265
I had 3 lvl 99 characters, and my other 3 were still level 55ish. The last few stages were tough.

>>385190315
The ones for the bestiary and every concurrence.

>>385190318
I'll let you know after I finish my Weak Mode playthrough.