Half life 2 nostalgia

>>385134981
It's got literally no story beyond your typical 90s braindead bullshit of MUH EVIL ALIEN GOVERNMENT AND TELEPORTATION
The atmosphere is ripped right out of 1984, eldritch horror, and general soviet bloc shit.

>>385134981
I gave it a chance a few years ago (around 2009 or 2010), it was a pretty generic but fun experience, but as far as I remember I couldn't finish due to pure boredom, also, I can't remember shit about it, so I guess you have a point OP.

Half-Life 2 holds up better than almost any other game from those years, and is still a pure joy to replay. It is also very ironic how most other shooters released much later do most of the things you listed way worse, yet obviously you're going to give them more slack, as it does not fit your b8 agenda.

Is there a game that exposes underages better than Half-Life 2?
I don't think there is.

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>>385134981
Agreed, I don't get where the praise for valve's games come from, they are shitty meme garbage at their best, glad they don't make games anymore lmao

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>>385135491
>Any other game from those years
>GTA III and Vice city
>Metal gear solid 2
>Halo 2
>Resident evil 4
>Doom 3
>Fable
>need for speed 2
>Ratchet and clank
>Kotr
>>Better from those years
Are you so underage that you were born after 2004 and missed all the games that came out around it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0WqAmuSXEQ

I literally just tried this earlier today and it worked. Valve is the bethesda of FPS.

Yeah I don't get the appeal of it, that being said though Half Life 2 Deathmatch was pretty fun in the olden days

>>385135939
The AI is a meme, it's programed so basically that most people think it's advanced when it's actually the least dynamic and simplest shit ever made.

>>385135575
No I'm just going through old and new messages from forums I used to visit and I keep seeing people say
>IT WAS GOOD FOR IT'S TIME
or
>MUH DEEP STORY AND ATMOSPHERE
The story is the worst part of the game, unless you are one of those morons who wastes his time writing up fan fiction and theories about who gman or the combine is.
Seriously it's just:
>Oh hey freeman go kill these guys so we can destroy the evil alien bad guys and stop their portal, also our entire plan and whole lives rely purely on you being insane enough to kill every single combine unit in all of yugoslavia or wherever we are.

>>385135935
Nope, I'm actually almost over-age for this site, having just turned 30. I was also a PS2-GC-PC idort already at the time, so yeah I know how great the early 00s was. You even forgot MGS3, Max Paynes and Far Cry.

However, the topic was purely on FPS games. Even if you added other genres and titles to the list, when it comes to visuals and interaction, majority of the other games you listed appear very dated in comparison.

>>385136787
Mgs 3, far cry and max payne all came out after half life 2 right?

>>385134981
It was literally CORRIDOR THE GAME but people are muh nostalgia millennials would never understand ect.
Full of shit if you ask me

>>385137002
Half life 1 was way worse because at least half life 2 pretended that a dirt path with open forest and streets behind invisible walls or sewers didn't count as corridors, half life 1 was literally metal corridors but it's actually fun because of how quick paced and arcadey it is, sort of like doom, which is what it exactly copied and emulated into 3d.

>>385136946
No. Far Cry came out before both Doom 3 and HL2, and totally shook the industry with its graphics. Literally the "crysis" of the year, though ID's and Valve's big shots did kinda overshadow it later.

MP1 was 2001 and MP2 a 2003 title. So yeah, they came out long before HL2 as well.

MGS3 was also 2004 game. One reason the year was so damn amazing.

>>385137313
Damn years and timelines seem to blur together I'm pretty sure I remember being in elementary school when gta iv first came out, and my first GF when mgs 1 came.

>>385137527
you seem to be suffering of mental issues. Better seek professional help before you develop a real deal dementia.

>>385137676
What do you mean weren't we talking about uh that thing? right?

FULLY

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Just replayed this recently and damn was it a chore. Just as I was having fun battling through the city and blowing shit up, I get my fucking weapons taken away and given only that gay fucking gravity gun again. Load up Episode One and the entire first hour and a half is DUDE THE GRAVITY GUN

>>385138940
MODELLED

>>385136787
the gameplay is almost identical to hl1 only with much less less content. not to mention how much of the game is spent jerking off over the new engine.

>>385134981
>story is almost non-existent
this is a postive
>at least you get to control the camera and smash things while you wait.
yes you can, this helps with immersion
>>Yeah the gunplay sucks and all the weapons act like peashooters but MUH GRAVITY GUN
yes the gravity gun is fucking incredible but the rest of the """"""""gunplay"""""""" is top notch as well
The AI is not shitty, exactly
It doesn't seem bad now and it was mind blowing at the time
It is a timeless classic
It has great physics and environmental interaction known as """"puzzles""""

>>385139219
>the gameplay is almost identical to hl1 only with much less less content.
I fail to see how it would have "much less" content. In fact, I'd dare to claim it has more of everything.

>jerking off over the new engine
and HL1 was not?
they may not appear as groundbreaking any more, but them bone-animations and scripted events were brand new, cool shit back in 97-98, and the game definitely spams them at your face.

tl;dr: every game is merely a tech demo for its engine.

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>>385139219
>only with much less content
never seen anybody claim before that HL1 was a bigger game than HL2

I am keeping in mind here that about 20 minutes of HL and 30 minutes of HL2 + episodes are pseudo-cutscenes

>>385139161
what is that image refering to?

>>385139219
>>385139540
Yeah valve is literally nothing but autstic, and lazy morons who are too busy making a tech demos and jewing out steam users to put actual fun or good writing in their games.

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>>385134981
Honestly even when it came out i though HL1 is better in every regard.

I was really disappointed by the graphic downgrade and how bad the AI was.
Also HL2 was first game that big to have a entirely fake gameplay showings that were 100% scripted.
It was ahead of the curve before Ubisoft became the downgrade joke, but hey, valve drones will pretend that never happened.

>>385139979
>m-muh story!!
go read a book.

>>385139540
>no gauss gun, gluon gun, hornet gun, satchels, or tripmines
>no bullsquids, houndeye, alien grunts, vortigaunts, gargs, or gonarchs
>no attempt is made to add an equivalent to any of these
>ar2 is just an upgraded smg with lower ammo count to justify keeping the smg around
>almost all of the game is spent fighting combine soldiers
>only time largely spent fighting other enemies are the canals where metropolice are just shittier combine soldiers, the coast which still has lots of combine soldiers, and ravenholm
>only real boss enemies are on-rails that can only be damaged by rockets which you have an infinite amount of
>final boss is more combine soldiers and shooting energy balls at props
>>385139696
hl1 is a much faster game and isn't padded with cutscenes.

>>385134981
>Sure it's ridden with cliches and the story is almost nonexistent, but it's TOTALLY THE FIRST GAME WITH NO CUTSCENES, sure it might lock you in a room and force you to listen to characters but at least you get to control the camera and smash things while you wait.
Minimalistic story isn't a downside. Literally never heard anyone claim it was thr first game without cutscenes.
>Yeah the gunplay sucks and all the weapons act like peashooters but MUH GRAVITY GUN
Crossbow and magnum say hi
>The AI isn't shitty it will crouch and run away from grenades sometimes
About on par with the AI of the time
>the game might seem bad now but it was good for it's time
It's as good now as it was when it released
>MUH PHYSICS AND PUZZLES
Physics were innovative for the time yeah, and puzzles act as a way to break the shooting routine. What's wrong with this?

Why are you so desperate to be a contrarian fucktard OP?

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>Half Life 2 shitposting

>>385139430
>this is a postive
Sure if it was trying and focusing on that like doom, but it pretended to be deep and all their fans act like it's the best story ever.
>this helps with immersion
Not really, when I play a game I want to focus on a great story not what I can fuck around with while boring characters blab on and on trying to force plot down your throat. I'd rather have it where you are forced to watch minute long cutscenes with a ton of focus and detail like metal gear than valves idea of putting no detail in the story and instead giving you little fidget spinners to mess around with while the actual characters do actually important things.

>the rest of the """"""""gunplay"""""""" is top notch
Every gun spews out weak pellets with absolutely zero recoil instead of acting like a real gun.

The AI is shitty, it has one or two gimmicks that they never use like ducking, and instead they just stand there 99% of the time

>It doesn't seem bad now and it was mind blowing at the time
>It is a timeless classic
IT CAN'T BE BOTH, IT IS EITHER NOT GOOD ANYMORE OR IT'S STILL GOOD AND TIMELESS.
and really if it isn't good anymore, that means it was never any good, super mario bros is still good today, half life 2 is actually shit once you take off your nostalgia goggles.

>It has great physics and environmental interaction known as """"puzzles""""
"Oh no you can't get to the next area better do some parkour and stack some boxes for no reason." It's all a big gimmick, it's forced unlike other games like the original resident evil games.

>>385134981
the half life series hit gold because valve understands the most important thing in vidya games is the atmosphere, and they've always excelled in that field

>>385140060
>WHAT YOU WANT A FUN GAME? GO PLAY CALL OF DUTY.
>WHAT YOU WANT A STORY IN YOUR GAME? GO READ A BOOK!
So do you only play valve games to look at the atmosphere and background?

>>385134981
Is every anti HL2 post on here a samefag or is this board full of retards?

>>385135385
>1984, eldritch horror, and general soviet bloc shit
cool mashup desu

>>385141502
nice story bro, but who are you quoting?

>>385135575
nope there isn't

actually replaying it now, got a 144hz monitor and replaying it after not playing it for a bunch of years, plays well, runs well and its still pretty damn fun

>>385140417
>Minimalistic story isn't a downside
Yes it is if the gameplay is shit too.
>Crossbow
Useless meme, you basically never need it
>Magnum
It's the only decent gun
>About on par with the AI of the time
Then people need to say it was above par with other games when it comes to AI
>It's as good now as it was when it released
So then it was always mediocre?
>Whats wrong with forced and boring puzzles?
They could have at least tried to make them fun, HL1 was fun, HL2 was a snooze fest when it came to puzzles.

>>385141228
>Facial animations and lip sync
what are they even talking about? it was the same as every other game.
>Physics
Yeah it was neat for the time, but it wasn't fun or improved the game in any way.
>AI companion
Yeah because all the AI did was follow you, it's not hard to fuck that up.
>Pacing
It's either run at mock speed killing everything or sitting still sniping everything
>MUH gravity gun

>>385141623
not really, it's a pretty common thing, creepy pasta does it all the time.

>>385141531
Is every HL2 post on here a samefag or is this board full of retards?

>>385142582
>it was the same as every other game.
it really, really is not.
Hell, HL2 has still some of the absolute gold-standard character animations of all gaming. Just look at, say, Max Payne 2, released a mere year earlier, and you will see what I mean.

>it wasnt fun or improved the game in any way
environmental interaction and all the opportunities it added = huge immersion and enjoyment improvement.

>it's not hard to fuck that up
you are right. It's damn easy to fuck that up.

>it's either this or that
or something in between.

>grav gun
one of the most fun inventions in gaming history

>>385141728
>I can't argue against him so I'll say a meme
>Or I shitpost all the time and add nothing to the discussion at hand.

>>385142582
>MUH gravity gun
underage that missed the glory days

>>385142763
>>385141531
>45 posts
>19 unique posters
take a wild guess

>>385141228
>facial animations
not gameplay.
>physics puzzles
gimmick and none of them were interesting, just "move heavy thing to lift other thing". portal was better.
>alyx
was about as effective as barney in hl1 but barney was optional. op4 had better companions.
>engine
means nothing now because they constantly update it adding more bugs and making it run worse. dota 2 ran like shit after the source 2 update with no visible improvements.
>lots of variety
not in enemies and weapons which are what an fps really needs to carry it. gimmicky setpieces will only be good for one or two playthroughs..
>gravity funs and pheropod are interesting
gravity gun was only good for cheap instant kills and bugbait was only used for like one chapter and then antlions never show up again.

>>385142884
A single gimmick used for tech demo of a game made in 2004 is now the glory days huh anon?

>>385143078
you would know if you weren't in your dad's ballsack that year

>>385141531
>>385142763
>>385142921
That isn't what samefag means, samefag means you're pretending to be mutiple people, not that you're replying to multiple posts, why would that even be a bad thing? are anons just supposed to reply to OP then leave?

>>385143275
good one newfag, blatantly calling out someone's age when there is no evidence is a clear sign of projecting your own age, now go do your homework.

>>385143494
got me good kiddo

>>385143723
Why are we still here? just to shitpost?

>>385142582
>Yeah because all the AI did was follow you, it's not hard to fuck that up.

Why did everyone else in that period fuck it up then?

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>>385134981
>HL2
>mediocre and overrated
could you be any more of an obvious troll?

>>385144223
you are

>>385134981
U mad op?

>>385134981
>TOTALLY THE FIRST GAME WITH NO CUTSCENES

lel

>>385142680
creepy pasta doesn't have the talent to make a game out of it though.

>>385135385

>1984, eldritch horror, soviet bloc atmosphere
>alien government and teleportation

Name ONE (1)(UNO) other series that does this.

>>385144308
keep it simple stupid
Everyone else always made the AI with some kind of fault to give it extra difficulty, and the escort parts of HL2 are pretty flat and simple, the AI isn't following you up a clock tower.

>>385144684
Combining two troupes makes it something new
Soviet bloc is already 1984 actually, even though one takes place in the UK and the other well the soviet.

I'm sorry you have shit taste OP. I re play it every few years and love it all the same.

>>385144625
Maybe not technolgically, but creating a theme and story isn't that hard, it's about making an entertaining and investing one, which half life fails at, I mean who cares about anyone other than Freeman himself, everyone else is there to literally open doors.

>Yes it is if the gameplay is shit too.
How is the gameplay shit?
>Useless meme, you basically never need it
You need as much you need other weapons
>Magnum
>Then people need to say it was above par with other games when it comes to AI
No one says that
>It's as good now as it was when it released
How is it medicore
>Whats wrong with forced and boring puzzles?
They are forced and boring in your opinion

Nice non arguments. Fuck off.

>>385144457
>>385144548
stop it, stop shitposting now!
Making one liners isn't healthy use of discussion.

>>385145310
>>385141986

>>385145350
lol u mad anon?

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>>385141531
Dude these shitposters have been around since 2012 or whatever. It started with the almost daily threads of the box art with the post "What happened /v/?" and evolved from there. Their snobbery and nitpicking is only applied to certain games to stir the most shit or maybe they hate it because it is generally well liked I don't know. The problem is that they are hypocrites they don't apply the same standards to the pleb shit they like because they like it. They are unprincipled mental manlets who can't live up to the level of critical thinking and intelligence they want to appear to have. Half Life 2 has it's share of problems and some real glaring flaws but these shitposters never touch on them or only briefly mention them because they are going for quantity of "con"s because their stunted underdeveloped autismal minds can only operate in terms "pros" and "cons" and rating systems. They are the retards the game journos pander to. It's always better to just pirate the game and make up your own mind over taking shitposter's word for it because the shitposters are always the lowest common denominator.

>>385134981
>TOTALLY THE FIRST GAME WITH NO CUTSCENES
Nobody ever says this, most of the reviews at the time would mention you never leaving first person view and the increased immersion it had but I have never heard a single person say it has no cutscenes.

>>385134981

Get the fuck out of here faggot

>>385145310
>How is the gameplay shit?
Less weapon and enemy variety than HL1 and especially OP4, ong boring sequences of being locked in a room while NPCs talk at you, "bosses" are all awful, levels are extremely reliant on gimmicks.
>You need as much you need other weapons
The crossbow serves the same purpose as the magnum, a high damage long range weapon with low ammo, but with pointless gimmicks like shots that ricochet and sticking enemies to wall. It also has travel time unlike the hitscan magnum. You can just use the suit zoom to kill someone with a magnum headshot more effectively than the crossbow.
>No one says that
Someone in this very thread said Alyx was a better AI companion than any game at the time had.
>How is it medicore
Not as much content as HL1.
>They are forced and boring in your opinion
Nothing is more exciting than having to stop and individually move a bunch of barrels to lift up a ramp.

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>>385145310
It's a boring and basic run and gun simulator with puzzles to get in your way

You need the smg and that is about it, everything else is just filler

EVERYONE SAYS THE AI WAS BEYOND IT'S TIME WHEN IT REALLY WASN'T.

>How is it medicore
It tries to do everything, and does none of it good enough, it's the jack of all trades.
AI: decent
Story: Not even there
Shooting: every gun does +1 damage and they don't have a good sound or animation, just a bright flash comes out the barrel, with a wimpy sound and kickback, I want my guns to seem like an actual 9mm not a 22lr.

Yeah they weren't forced, because everyone loved doing this put weight one place to lift something else up puzzle a million times only slightly different.

It's overrated, and decent at best, but it's not one of the best games ever made like every single critic and person has said

>>385134981
I remember when I first saw demo where people were picking up random objects and throwing them, or shooting glass and it didn't all shatter it broke realistically. I was so excited. Never before did a game have that.

I remember when it was the game that used to demolish video cards too, computers just couldn't handle it.

>>385134981
t. examinedlifeofgaming

HL1
>A nobody survives thanks to his suit only to find himself trapped in the middle of a war between aliens from another dimension and the marines that were supposed to rescue the scientists

HL2
>The second coming of Jesus Christ versus a corrupt government (aided by generic alien forces)

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>>385134981
People like you and others are too young to understand the magnitude of this game when it came out, in 2004. Two thousand four.

Yeah it's cool and special of you to hate on a popular game that's considered one of the best. And that's why you resent it.

it's a great game. still better than other singleplayer FPS's today.

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>>385145891

This.

All these threads have people saying 'every other game from the time is better' basically using the fact that other games they list just aren't nitpicked as much because they aren't autism targets.

Another game from 2004 if people want to talk about AI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnGAuJz4dMU

>>385146345
>>385142582
>>385141986
>>385141275
>>385135935
>>385134981

>>385147048
No it's not

>>385147245
blame the retards who always hype it up as LITERALLY THE BEST GAME EVER MADE. also the first two halo games were genuinely better.

>>385134981
this game came the same year that halo 2, and still halo 2 doesn't feel old, but everyone praises this just for the meme

>>385147245
What's wrong with Far Cry's AI? It's actually pretty good.

>>385147335
>trying this hard to fit in

>>385147496
It's not far off from where video games are now.

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>>385134981
no, but this one almost takes the cake

>>385147036
>it was good for it's time
This is the argument taken up by actual children who didn't play the game, if I game isn't good now, it was never good.
You can name me 10 games from before 2001 and I'll tell you if they are good, or not.
IT'S CALLED A TIMELESS CLASSIC, if it was good back then, why would it be bad now? even pacman, mario and even half life 1 are still good, why is half life 2 exempt from still being good?

>>385147335

I disagree.

>>385147036
HL2 did nothing noteworthy gameplay wise. Absolutely nothing. All the praise came from superficial aspects as lipsyncing and art direction. Sounds like you're projecting and wasn't around to know.

>>385134981
Hating Half Life 2 is the most contrarian opinion possible. It's a masterpiece. Grow up.

>>385147496
>>385147586
>Implying defending half life 2, the most overrated game in history, isn't trying to fit in

>>385147036
read this >>385147457

I'll play halo 2 any day till I die, it will still be fun, I'll play half life 2 and fall asleep

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>>385145891
Look what I found

>>385147654
I find that combat evolved while I see how it innovated a lot of things wasn't as good as it's sequels.

2004 was the year for halo 2, the game that changed multiplayer forever and make the shooters great again, and resident evil 4 came out, the game that put the standart for what it is now the third person shooter genre, hl2 did nothing new to the games, the truth is out, half life 2 is just a big meme game, it was the ark , the fnaf,, the playerunknonw battlegrounds for the 2004 kids, get over it

>>385147491
he's an underage retard who didn't play the game when it first came out. the bugs in the video are because of an patch that came way later on.

>>385147921
>It's overrated
>NO IT'S NOT YOUR JUST BEING A CONTRARIAN TRYING TO HATE IT, JUST TO HATE IT, IT'S A 200/200 MASTERPIECE, CLEARLY FLAWLESS!
This is why it is called overrated.

It's a generic shooter who hired a good art director, and had a budget big enough to make a bloated physics engine that was going to be like unreal engine or unity, but instead only was able to create a few good fan made mods, because nobody wanted it.

>>385148439
halo 2 changed multiplayer for consoles. although xbox live did exist before halo 2 and combat evolved was a lot of fun in multiplayer.

console multiplayer was and still is painfully behind the pc multiplayer experience.

>re4 set the standard for what is now the third person shooter
no

>>385148439
>2004 was the year for halo 2, the game that changed multiplayer forever and make the shooters great again
Halo is a garbage shooter though. It's only slightly less overrated than HL2.

>>385145891
>they are hypocrites they don't apply the same standards to the pleb shit they like because they like it. They are unprincipled mental manlets who can't live up to the level of critical thinking and intelligence they want to appear to have.
*tips fedora* Those plebians clearly don't understand what a masterpiece half life 2 is, sure it has it's flaws, but it's also a flawless diamond that must not be criticized!

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>>385147775
>half life 1 are still good
What gets me are when you guys shit on HL2 but like HL1. I played it recently and it aged like shit. The automatic is a peashooter, the pistol is worthless, and the magnum's limited ammo fucks it up. The other weapons are more specialty. The bucket weapon switch is fucking bullshit for a game that spreads it's ammo sparsely enough that it's designed to make you switch often. And on hard the enemies are bulletsponges who with pinpoint hitscan the moment you are in view. The AI was good for the time but whats the point when you get skunked by faggots you can't see?
The aliens are actually the least bullshit part of that game. Half the levels are shit, and Zen is half baked. There is practically no story and the premise is whacky as shit, if it released today people would be bitching about it endlessly how nonsensical it is. WOW MUH SCRIPTED SEQUENCES was a hot feature of the time but aside from the one sequence with the scientist being pulled through the window by that hydra lookin motherfucker it's boring shit that gets in the way of gameplay.

>>385148152
>Halo 2 is better than HL2
Sure is summer in here

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>>385147496

>>385148901
>ur just r-reddit
>*tips fedora*
Sure thing, faggot. Tell yourself whatever makes you feel better.

>>385134981
For today's standards it's an ok-to-meh FPS.
For back then it was mindblowing. Never seen such realism up until then with that level of detail and interaction.

>>385149016
>The automatic is a peashooter, the pistol is worthless,
What no the SMG wipes the floor with most things in a single burst
The pistol was great at actually killing zens, unlike the pistol in hl2 which takes like 3 shots to kill a simple headcrab, not that you'd ever hit one considering the game programs bullets to fly left and right instead of actually being accurate for absolutely no reason.

>>385149146
>Thou are a pleb and hath unprincipled brain
>I am Not reddit
pick one

>>385149398
The SMG has terrible feedback. No recoil whatsoever. I think that's what he meant.

>>385149016
>boo hoo i got bullied by hecu grenades
Maybe HL2 is more your speed where the AI is so braindead it can't see you if you hide behind a can.

>>385149313
Nobody is saying todays standards, they are saying it doesn't hold up today.
One means you can't appreciate it anymore for some reason, and had to play it when it came out, which is a bullshit excuse, I still enjoy a ton of retro games
The other means if Half life 2 came out today it would be called shit, because yeah technology changes and advances, with todays tech, common education and tutorials almost anyone can make a game that works like half life 2

>>385145891
>>385148206
Those daily reminder threads were always bait you fucking newfags, they take commonly said opinions that go against the hivemind, and hyperbole the shit out of them, it's completely different.

>>385149398
Maybe if you are on Easy. The only worthwhile thing about the SMG is the launcher. The pistol is fine for killing the shitty headcrabs and other aliens but whats the point when they are easily taken out with crowbar? The aliens pose almost no threat in the game until the very end you just sidestep the vorts ez.

>>385149661
That can video was a specific problem with enemies on turret. That being said the AI is pretty braindead. Half Life 2 takes all my problems with HL1 and makes them worse. Plus it adds MORE shit that keeps you out of gameplay. The biggest problem with the game isn't the difficulty but how boring HL1 gunplay is, the best strategy is always to be a lame faggot. This isn't fun. Quake and old arena shooters will always blow the Half Life series out of the water in terms of gameplay.

Good job being a defensive retard for no reason other than to defend your precious masterpiece game from when valve was good.

>MUH HALF LIFE

>>385149027
FIRST OFF IT'S NOT SUMMER EVERYWHERE YOU AMERILARD
Second everyone knows moot has stated visitors to this site never goes up in the summer
third Halo 2 may not be as pretty or have as many gimmicks, but it is still funner.

>HL2 is boring
HL2 is boring today because it set the standard for FPS
Of course a game decade old would be outdated by mechanics and design because people found ways to innovate on HL2's formula
Find me a better FPS than HL2 in 2004
>Engine was overrated
This is a sign of an underage faggot
If you saw this shit back in 2004 it was mindblowing and was decades ahead
Engine was made in a decade from scratch and it still looks decent
Plus it's one of the very few games that maximize the use of its physics

>>385150279
The enemy wasn't on a turret, he clearly got off and still only fired when the player walked forward without adjusting the can

>>385149016
Okay so, HL1 has good gunplay and HL2 doesn't. HL1 has enemy variety and HL2 doesn't. HL1 is story light while HL2 is story heavy. Scripted sequences affected level design in HL1 while they served no purpose but storytelling in HL2. Gee wiz, I wonder why people hate 2 but like 1.

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>>385150086
>it's completely different.

>>385150381
Meant for >>385150250

>>385150403
>(you) in charge of reading

>story is almost nonexistent
Yeah, except for the fact that the game stops you every 10 minutes to tell you about some fantasy bullshit nobody with at least half-a-brain cares about.

>>385150279
>HL2 is boring today because it set the standard for FPS
I'll give you that, the standard for FPS is boring as fuck ever since.

>>385134981
HL2 is a really advanced game that got dumbed down due to stupid playtesters.
For proof, play SMOD and notice how the ai is hyper intelligent suddenly.

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>>385150086
>This thread isn't bait that takes commonly said opinions against the hivemind and hyperbole the shit out of them
really gets the noggin' joggin'

>>385150279
>Engine was made in a decade from scratch and it still looks decent
it was forked from goldsrc engine, which itself is a fork of quake engine.

>>385150279
>Every modern FPS is shit
>Half life 2 is the standard
Really activates my almounds.

>>385150279
>Find me a better FPS than HL2 in 2004
halo 2

>>385152448
Halo 2 is good but nowhere near as good as HL2. At least not the singleplayer.

>>385152710
why not
>skippable cutscenes
>more enemy variety
>more weapon variety
>more vehicle variety

>played HL2 for the first time this year
>probably my favourite fps after Metroid Prime if it counts

>>385152448
>console FPS

'lol'

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Good god I am glad your worthless opinion is fucking irrelevant to the public . Half life 2 will still be praised by millions and there;s nothing you can do about it cuck .
Half life 2 is a great game .

>>385141228
Alyx isn't an escort mission because she's unkillable. Rebels are disposable, they have like 6-8 models and once one dies another runs out of a dead end to replace them. Rebels are also genuinely annoying, they'll block you in corridors and DON'T FORGET TO RELOAD DOC!

>>385150250
SMG is "fine enough" on Hard. It's not amazing but it gets the job done.

t. played through MINEVRA Metastsis on Hard

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>>385134981
>Half-Life 2
>but it's TOTALLY THE FIRST GAME WITH NO CUTSCENES
>2
It's not even the first in its own series to do that.

>>385154229
I'm pretty sure he was ironic

>>385154229
exactly, but nostalgic fans will say otherwise

too lazy to read through this thread
for anyone defending the AI
https://youtu.be/e0WqAmuSXEQ

>>385154708
>A bug that literally only happens in that instance
Why don't you just go through the whole game holding a can from the first level?

>>385154906
you can do that using a gnome, but its hard as hell to keep it with you

halo 2 shit all over it when it released, so i don't buy into the "best game of all time for its time" meme. San Andreas and mgs3 also released in 2004 and were also better games.

>>385154990
>you can do that using a gnome
Except it doesn't blind the AI for all the other enemies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEYJJuDRq2Y
Did he ever finish?

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>>385134981
>Guys half-life 2 is shit
> agreed
> yup sure is anon

> game is going on eleven years old

>>385144684
Dishonored, at least a little bit.

>>385142879
you haven't even tried to argue about anything. Just been meme b8ing around.

>>385134981
well if Razorfist is to be believed any Metal Gear game. I can safely say so for 4, 2, and 5...
really I only fondly remember 3.

>>385153981
Alyx can die, it's just incredibly hard for that to happen. If it does, you get a game over.

I dislike that half the game is helicopter chases, and literally the only fun part is the prison sequence where you control antlions.

>>385143494
you didn't provide any arguments beside MUH GUN which is not an argument, so you don't deserve anything besides telling you that you're an underage and should be banned

>>385155418
but why does this only apply to half life 2?
Everyone knows most other games are eleven or more years older, yet they still like them, but when it comes to half life 2 it's as if you need to be reminded of how old it is when forming an opinion. that logic is flawed , almost everyone takes into consideration the age of the game, it's the same with half life, and that is why it is still bad, because it was bad for back then too.

>>385155665
She can't die in practical terms. She's not invulnerable, but she has super-fast HP regen.

Why is everyone saying that story is bad? It was good enough for a FPS, if you want a story heavy game go play some interactive movie like heavy rain or some shit. The lore also is good, at the time I enjoyed exploring it and thinking about stuff that was left out.

Fuck off, OP, let's watch some Freeman's Mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6ivlJpxqwM

>>385155901
What are you talking about retard?
First it's a first person shooter, the whole point is how fun it is to shoot things.
Second I also talked about how shit the story is, it's is literally nothing, the characters are all flat, only say things to advance the plot to the next stage instead of actual important dialogue , instead of talking well anything they just say "go here Mr freeman" "Do this gordon" "follow me" "We've (you) got to get over there and help the rebels with bla bla (kill everone) in order to take down the combine(kill more people)" it's all useless drivel
The AI is shit and follows basic patterns, almost every other game had figured out that having an AI that sits still while being shot is a bad thing.
You deserve to be banned for being retarded

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>>385156018
Because people just say its bad compared to other games from the time, then just nostalgia goggle away all the things that were super janky in those other games

>>385134981
4chan fags like Unreal and Halo
Reddit fags like Quake and Half Life

fuck off

>>385135385
>The atmosphere is ripped right out of 1984, eldritch horror, and general soviet bloc shit.

As opposed to what?

>>385156664
There is a difference between having a single flaw and being nothing but flaws, Halo was cheesy as hell and the writing was over dramatic, mean while Half life 2's story was minimal but still got in the way of gameplay, which wasn't even that much fun, at least in my opinion. You can only kill combine in the same cramped area pretending to be somewhere new for so long until it gets boring.

>>385156865
Are you implying Reddit is full of adults and 4chan is full of children?

>>385156963
Anything new and original, spooky tentacle aliens and big russian like oppressive government is nothing new.
I mean the cops even wear russian gas masks.

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>>385156018
> and that is why it is still bad, because it was bad for back then too.
For 2004, it was pretty good.

>>385147834
If you actually played games during this time period you would see how stupid you sound. The physics interaction alone were a huge leap in the technology.

>>385157016
Seriously. Only an insane halo fanboy would claim halo single player was more fun than Half-Life 2. Half of Halo is the flood. I can only assume you are conflating the fun you had in coop on Halo campagin with "single player."

>>385157067
No Reddit is full of children pretending to be adults with games that pretend to be smart and mature, when really they are pretentious, superficial and boring, while 4chan is full of adults wanting to be kids again.

>>385157246
>Anything new and original

Like I said, as opposed to what?

>>385157309
Vice city was pretty good for 2004
Now it's clunky and difficult, but still fun
Half life 2 was decent
Now it's apparently the most flawless best game ever made.

>>385136787
I built a new PC that summer. Don't forget Rome: Total War that came a little later in the fall. 2004 was the peak

>>385157354
Only a child would think Quake ever tried to be smart or mature. Nice try Reddit.

>>385157437
What do you want me to make something up?
There are games that know they aren't original and embrace it like metal gear by being savvy about their tropes, while valve and gaben pretend they made some brand new shit, never ever thought of before, and they are at the forefront of innovation.

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>>385157246
I'm fairly sure you meant georgian, bud.

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>>385157489
I know right?

>>385157317
>enemies look ridiculous dying, vehicles handle like ass and you can throw things
So........ this..... is the............ future............ whoa........................................

>>385157818
Slavic, gopnik, cyka blat, red, commie bastard I don't care what it's called

>>385157812
I'm playing through Metal Gear right now and I can absolutely assure you there is nothing savvy about it on any level other than MGS2 practically invented the way too many cutscenes.

>while valve and gaben pretend they made some brand new shit

Oh my bad I didn't know you were friends with these people.

>>385157897
Basically the first and last part.
WHOA RAG DOLLS, WHOA THINGS CAN BE THROWN THIS HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE EVER!

>I couldn't expirience half-life 2 at release so everything about it must be lies
gen z cucks I swear

>>385158053
>friends
There is a shit ton of commentary, and videos about them, when they made portal 2 they acted like it was going to be revolutionary, but it was just portal 1 with more memes and the backstory/hidden lore is now right in your face.

Come on. Half Life 2 was clearly a tech demo. They wanted to sell their engine wide and far. And then accidentally got to the front of digital distribution and had the foresight to make the most of their situation.

>>385158258
>I don't remember what half life 2 was like when it came out so it must have been great unlike when I played it now and it's totally not nostalgia clouding my vision.
>It was good for it's time, it just sucks now for some reason..

>>385158270
>What is marketing?

Kojima's entire MO is
>LOOK HOW IMPORTANT AND SMART AND CLEVER I AM

And you are bitching about Gabe/Valve because of some marketing fluff?

>>385158146
Come to think of it, is there any bad mechanic trend in modern games that didn't originate in Half-Life?

I played Half Life 2 and the episodes recently and it was mediocre. The physics don't really carry it, the stealth cutscenes were irritating, the execution was predictable and the gunplay was a letdown. That said, the citadel as a great atmosphere.

>>385158460
Yeah mass effect, halo and call of duty started that super powered exoskeleton suit trend

>>385156643
you goddamn retard
>what are they even talking about? it was the same as every other game.
It fucking wasn't and is still better than facial animation that some of the modern AAA games and at least on par with other games like witcher
>Yeah it was neat for the time, but it wasn't fun or improved the game in any way.
It fucking was and it did, fun ragdoll is a great improvement to any game
>It's either run at mock speed killing everything or sitting still sniping everything
Yeah, and also running around killing fucking zombies with saw blades, or trying to evade antlions, or cruising around in boat/buggy. The locations were diverse and almost any chapter was different from previous.
>First it's a first person shooter, the whole point is how fun it is to shoot things.
It was fun to shoot things, if anything, HL2 has one of the best FPS gameplay of all games.
>Second I also talked about how shit the story is, it's is literally nothing
Fuck off, retard, FPS games do not need deep story, just a justification to shoot things, HL2 story was good enough for and FPS game and lore was interesting as fuck to explore. If you want a heavy story game go play life is strange or any of the telltale shits.
>The AI is shit and follows basic patterns, almost every other game had figured out that having an AI that sits still while being shot is a bad thing.
And yet there are barely any games with AI better than in HL2, there is FEAR, but other than that I can't think of anything
kill yourself, faggot

>>385158448
>Kojima's entire MO is
>LOOK HOW IMPORTANT AND SMART AND CLEVER I AM
When? That might be what other people say about him, but he's just watched a lot of classic films, and he constantly says so himself, he knows what people like about old movies and uses that in his games.

>>385158727
calm down faggot, why are you so mad someone else doesn't like your favorite game?

whats the word for people discussing shit out of spite of having discussed it

"half-life/quake/fallout isn't that good" is easiest way to spot anyone who born 95>

>>385157821
Vice city came out on PC too, what are you talking about?
Nobody cares what type of machine you game on reddit, you have to go back, you won't get any upboats here.

>>385158825
>That might be what other people say about him

Find me a single clip of Gabe acting less humble than Kojima. But we both know where this will lead. No where. You answered your own problem. Your perceptions are based on what other people say.

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>>385149016
I finished it yesterday.

>the pistol is worthless
This pistol early on is your most reliable way of dealing with HECU soldiers. Only because they're retards that stand 50 miles away from you, stand still, and try to shoot you with their M4/MP5 (which is such an inaccurate piece of garbage so they no damage to you). The pistol uses the same bullets and actually shoots straight so they're easy to fight at a distance.

>>385158992
Assholes?

>>385159067
>Vice city came out on PC too, what are you talking about?

Oh so you are underage? Because if you weren't or far from it you would remember that Vice City didn't come out on PC for at least a year after PS2 and at that point it was already extremely outdated.

>>385134981
Dont forget that HL2 was the first game to use such heavy railroading it removed fun map design from fps games. Farcry 1 was so much better than this casual trash.

>>385134981
I assume people who don't like it are children or doom 3 fags. Either way your opinions are useless

Is there anything more retarded than using 2017 standards to judge a game that's likely as old as you are? That works for some things, but for things that rely heavily on technology, it's full retard.

>>385134981
Half Life 2 is a bit overrated.
Half Life, on the other hand, is a masterpiece.

>>385159036
Quake was just a spin off of doom, not nearly as good as it seems to be seen now, half life 2 is the same way, fallout 1-2 are completely different. they may be a bitch, and one of those games you had no idea how you beat as a kid, but they are still fun and tell a good story, although the names are shitty as hell
>DR MORBID
>THE MASTER

>>385158460
HP regen

>>385158706
>super powered exoskeleton suit
that's a good trend, also HEV suit

>>385158460
yes, MUH LINEAIR PRETENTIOUS STORY WITH ENDLESS EXPOSITION!

hl2 is truly the pleb's choice

>>385159401
>doom 3 fags
But I like Doom 3 and this game. Or is that the wrong opinion to have?

>>385159319
Wow a whole year, GTA V also came out a year later on PC, people don't consider it a console exclusive, stupid.

>>385158926
I'm not mad though, I'm just confused by your stupidity. You pretend your opinion is a fact, while you can't even make a decent argument why half life is bad. Sure it has flaws, gunplay is so-so, there could be more guns and enemies, an option to skip "cutscenes" and maybe more reasons/ways to use g-gun, but otherwise it was a good game for it's time and it sure as fuck is a good game for today compared to any other AAA game. Let me remind you that there are a single good FPS release in 2017 (Titanfall).

>>385159326
>Far Cry 1
>largely procedurally generated
>fun map design

Ok.

Remember when people said that GTA IV was overrated?

Half Life 2 was a phone-in as a way to sell Steam.

>>385159657
well at least I wasn't playing a precursor to FFXIII

Truly spoken like an underage btw. hl2 was really fucking shit compared to the other fps games at the time.

>>385159619
2002-2003 is a much larger jump in technology than 2015-2016 but then again that is also something only an idort from the early 00s would know.

>>385159645
>Yeah cutscenes were boring and should be skipable
>And gunplay was bad too
>But at least it has...???

>>385159657
>>Far Cry 1
>>largely procedurally generated
um what

also it had some pretty good levels with nice secret passages and shit you might even miss on first playthrough

Rebellion in particular is a great map

>>385159787
Not really I'd say 2002-2005 was a big dash but it wasn't some instant thing

>>385159782
Shit you found me out. Because I don't hold a contrarian opinion now I must be underage. Nevermind statistics.

>>385159731
>Remember when people said that GTA IV was overrated?
Yeah they kept saying it until late 2013/early 2014 hit and then all of a sudden it was the fucking second coming.

>>385159731
GTA IV was overrated
It's got a nice sad and gritty story, but otherwise it was shit for a gta game, including the wonky physics, just try racing in that game without crashing, every player has a near wrecked car by the end.

>>385159951
hl2 was just popular because you could play it on a toaster. It's just poorfags that hype that shit game.

HL2 created online DRM for pc, it was fucking cancer, and the game was fucking trash as well.

The only real reason to play gta IV was to hack the everloving fuck out of it. The game had some nice tech but it needed to lighten the fuck up, slippy slide car fuckery most of all.

>>385159820
Cutscenes are not the whole game and do not affect gameplay in anyway, shit, Max Payne 3 had unskipable cutscenes too and yet it has one of the best gunplays of ALL TIME, if you deny that, you're legitimately retarded.
I never said gunplay was bad, dipshit, do you even know how to read? I said it could be better, but it's not bad.
>But at least it has...???
Well, I dunno, everything else?
Atmosphere, level and world design, lore, pacing, the main villain is good and his actions are justifiable to an extent, OST is fucking amazing, graphically it still stands and could be considered a 2017 AAA game after minor improvements, facial animations.

These threads get more ridiculous as time goes on. I have never once in my life met a person who was of age when HL2 came out that would say anything worse than aspects of it were slightly disappointing because of the tech demo. But what makes these threads special is the pure vitriol.

>>385139749
life

>>385159071
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt0w9YP_wZ0
>Yeah we are totally making half life 3 and it will be great, just keep using your mom's credit card on hats, dota, knife skins, and buying half life and it's episodes, we aren't lazy shits, and we won't admit we don't care about the game anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AXU5s_sjQc
>Testing players to a different gameplay and storytelling experience
>Storytelling is the same as half life 1-2 by having NPC talk to the player
>Gameplay is a platformer with portals

>"Not more of the same", is more of the same

Gabe is far from humble, he lies and hypes up his games all the time, even though they are never changing in their formulaic design.

>>385160589
Hey. HL2 is a bad shooter. I could stomach it being a bad tech demo if it was fun. It's not. It also plagued shooters with terrible trends.

>>385160426
>hl2 was just popular because you could play it on a toaster.

Not even fucking remotely true. I was in a 3 story dorm with over 100 people that was over 50% gamers and only 3 people had PCs capable of running it decently.

>>385160589
You just proved your own point. Half Life was a tech demo so that five other games could be made, and of those five, only one is still popular.

>>385160771
It's okay shooter.

>>385160818
I played it on GeForce 4 MX440 which is a pretty crappy video card (was) that only supported DX 7.1 IIRC. No water shaders or anything fancy. Still run "fine", but then again, so did Far Cry.

>>385160765
I said less humble than Kojima. Also nice strawman greentexting narrative bending bullshit.

>>385160589
>Muh age
>Muh personal anecdote
Nearly every little kid nerd I've met loves three things, minecraft, legend of zelda and half life 2

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>>385134981
Everything Half-Life did, System Shock did it before it, HL is basically the plep's SS.

>>385161063
>normie children knowing about half life at all
what a story mark

>>385161135
gameplay wise half-life is quake with reloading.

>>385161063
Holy fuck how are you so triggered you have to make up a blatant unironic lie? See! Pure vitriol!

>>385161206
ARE YOU BEING RETARDED?
HAHAAHAHHAHAHAH OH MY GOD
>HEHE HALF LIFE 2 IS A SEKRET COOL ADULTS ONLY GAME.
Dude almost every little kid with a youtube or reddit account knows about half life 2 and loves the shit out of it!

>>385161135
That cover font looks like it was ripped right off the title screen for Marathon

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>>385161135

>>385161309
Stop being retarded you fucking absolute faggot, kill yourself right now, if you are going to pretend half life 2 isn't massively known, it's the main staple of kids from /r_PCmasterrace on reddit.

>>385161314
How do you know so many of these kids? Because I'm 32 which is why I know so many adults that played Half Life 2.

Boat gives me motion sickness

>>385156362
>6
This episode was shit, all he does is scream and complain and scream some more just for good measure.

Can't he just become a pirate again for the rest of the show? I'd watch that.

>>385161314
You must hang out with kids alot huh? The point was that little kids only care about minecraft and pokemon and retarded adhd shit like that. I would have believed you more if you had said garry's mod tbqh

>>385161483
You need to get out of your house. You are living in an oppressive fantasy world. Neither Reddit nor 4chan have any baring on actual popular opinion. The vast majority of gamers don't even visit sites about gaming.

>>385161532
>>385161206
>>385160589

gtfo oud manchild. im 33 and hl2 is fucking shit,

this poster is superright >>385161063, hl2 is superpopular because it can be played on any toaster, has garry's mod and has ''free games'' on it. it's a trash game, wit htrash mechanics for trash kids.

HL2 is literally the super mario of fps gaymen

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>>385161776
>im 33
>post full of memes and childish banter

>>385161776
addendum: HL2 is r/IAmVerySmart the video game.
>hey guys, did you know that your favorite valve game is based off of this older game? So superior, amirite?

>>385161776
I'm 25, haven't defended half life 2 itt and was replying to "that poster who is supperright" I know it was you because he is fucking retarded if he thinks the 5 and 6 year olds of today spend more time talking about fucking half life 2 of all things over minecraft, pokemon, nintendo, and huffing glue. They can't play it on their kiddie tablets dude.

>>385141228
>HL2 is the best game ever
>because the characters look like they're speaking
I always wonder if in these threads the people posting in them hated Wolfenstein:ET, Serious Sam, Blood. etc. because the characters just weren't opening their mouths realistically enough.

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>NEVER EVER

>>385161532
>>385161678
Have you never been on the internet?
If you ever go on G mod or tf2 it's 99% kids and they all love half life 2
>>385161739
You need to stay inside your house, gamers don't exist outside they exist on the internet, and most kids who call themselves gamers go on the internet and browse shit like PCmasterrace or /r_true gaming

Are you seriously going to say reddit is full of adults, and not 12-17 year olds?

You don't need to go outside and talk to kids to find out what they like, just play any video game, ask them about half life 2 and they will say they love it, then mention how they want to buy the newest alienware and start a youtube channel.

Maybe your a neet shut in who only plays classic single player games, but I play enough online games to have met enough annoying kiddies.

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>>385162335
>and they all love half life 2

>>385162168
The person you are currently replying to isn't me, I wouldn't misspell out, or said gayman.

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>>385134981
All of your points are valid but I still think it's an enjoyable experience. I think there's something about HL2 and HL1 even, that makes it more than the sum of it's parts, but I can't figure what. Why do I like it even though I can see it's flaws? Thoughts guys?

Seems like there's a lot of nostalgia fags in this thread and fags who only own HL2 because of Gmod. I played HL2 when it first came out a decade ago, owned it on PC and got gifted an Xbox version later on. No, all of you fuck wits are totally wrong, this game wasn't good for its time, everyone I knew hated it and there were lots of forum threads dedicated to HL2 negativity. Everything this game tries to do was already done (and at a better extent) by other games even before HL2 came out. I'm sick of half life 2, I'm sick of all the "praise" it gets for its shallow gameplay, I'm sick of HL3 memes, I'm happy valve stopped making games

>>385161374
SS1 came first.

literal contrarianism

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>>385160771
>Hey. HL2 is a bad shooter. I could stomach it being a bad tech demo if it was fun. It's not. It also plagued shooters with terrible trends.

Oh yeah I remember when Half Life introduced regenerating health. Oh wait...

And when it started the sticky cover rather than movement trend. Oh wait...

Or the two weapon limit. Oh wait...

Face it Half Life 2 is literally the last good FPS before everything starting being designed around controllers

>>385162335
>Are you seriously going to say reddit is full of adults, and not 12-17 year olds?

No but you listed 2 dead games and a website as proof of what? That some children are aware of HL2? Because I guarantee you at least 90% of children don't know what the fuck half life 2 is. That doesn't make it a secret. But to pretend people are constantly talking about half life 2 on the playground is fucking stupid See >>385162168.

>>385162435
I didn't say they were smart or knew anything about it, I said they love it.

You're proving my point, if kids didn't like hl2 they wouldn't be commenting on the video at all.

And maybe I've gotten a bit old and who I used to consider young nerdy kids are now like 17 and 19 now.

>>385134981
Just got done replaying HL2, Ep 1 and Ep 2 back to back in three and a half days. I don't care that they're different from 1, they're simply perfect games for what they are in my eyes. Even Ep 1. They deserve every bit of praise ever lavished on them.

>ridden with cliches and the story is almost nonexistent
On the contrary, it's original (counting what started with HL1 of course) and even subversive. And you're confusing story with plot.
>gunplay sucks but MUH GRAVITY GUN
The gunplay is great.
>The AI isn't shitty
Well this is my main source of frustration, esp. trying to escort citizens through those parts and keeping them alive because of the damn autofollow (they follow you no matter what after 15 seconds or if you stray more than like 20 meters). But you can turn that off if it really bothers you (it did me). The enemy AI is functional enough that it kills you more times than you'll care for though.
>the game might seem bad now
It really doesn't, sure the graphics, despite still being good, have aged somewhat, but who cares.
>TIMELESS CLASSIC
Indeed.

>>385162495
See, that's the thing. It's not the best FPS ever, nor is it Duke Nukem Forever. It's so middle-of-the-road and innocent. It's the equivalent of Jaws in the likes of 2001 and Clint Eastwood.

>>385162495
Atmosphere is the strongest nostalgia, most of your memories are images, so if you mostly remember a beautiful game, even if its shitty, it will seem really good.

>>385162558
They're three months apart and were developed for competing platforms. They are siblings and should be respected as such. Both were essentially Doom-killers rather than Doom-clones.

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>>385134981
>Tfw you buy Hl2 on your new steam account to replay it and it's not anywhere near as good as remember
Feels bad man

>>385162675
>Playground
Don't be retarded I didn't mean literally kids, I meant 12 -17 year olds, you know redditors with shit taste.
Did you think I meant literal 6 year olds or something? do they even play games that aren't mobile?

>>385162736
>they're simply perfect games for what they are in my eyes. Even Ep 1. They deserve every bit of praise ever lavished on them.
There is no such thing as a perfect game you faggot, fuck off

>>385162736
OP was saying it's a timeless classic, because people always make the excuse that it was good for it's time, as they are contradictory statements always made together

>>385162749
No fuck off OP, it's perfect, you console plebs just don't remember what it was like when it first came out.

>>385163720
So then why don't you tell us what it was like? Hmmm?

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>>385162639
>Last good FPS

>F.E.A.R.
>TimeSplitters FP
>SWAT 4
>BF2
>PREY
>S.T.A.L.K.E.R. SoC, CS, and CoP
>Bad Company
>Riddick
>Wolfenstein 2009
>Metro, Metro 2
>Far Cry Blood Dragon
>Wolfenstein 2014

All of these are better than HL2, good FPS games have been coming out consistently, it's just that instead of going 'oh it was good but I didn't like it', people go 'oh it was bad because I didn't like it'; that being said, I guarantee you that if you played through that list and like FPS games at all you'll find one that you'll agree is better than HL2.

Your argument is disingenuous and shallow.

>>385164075
>>Far Cry Blood Dragon
that's the worst Far Cry game, definitely worse than HL2

>>385164075
>Wolfenstein 2009
Not that guy but this game was legit shit.

>>385163404
>reading comprehension
You lack this.
>>385163556
Fair enough. I was still on the rush from finishing Ep 2 literally just now.

>>385164025
It was way better as far as I remember, the reason you won't find it good is because of how many games copy it's design now a days, you won't be impressed by the graphic or physics anymore, nobody plays old games and likes them because nobody remembers how old the game is, I was only 7 when the game came out, and it was the best thing ever.

It's like driving an old car compared to a new one, it's not not the same.

>>385164380
I was just quoting you, you fucking twat.
You said it was perfect for what they were, I said perfect doesn't exist.

>>385164595
>perfect for what they are in my eyes
>in my eyes
>ie; in my opinion
It's clear you're mad anon, it's okay, just so long as you work on that reading comprehension.

>>385164502
>It was way better as far as I remember
That's called nostalgia. It doesn't make up for an actual lack of quality in the game, though.
>you won't find it good because of how many games copy it now a days
If I liked newer games that "copy it", wouldn't I like it too? How many games actually play like Half Life 2, let alone Half Life 1?
>You won't be impressed by the graphic or physics anymore
I wasn't impressed by them back then, Doom 3 and many other games came out at that time, and the Xbox 360 was around the corner.
>nobody plays old games
What is /vr/ and fucking kill yourself?
>I was 7 when the game came out and it was the best thing ever
I was 7 when I got Spyro Enter the Dragonfly and it was the best thing ever, wasn't it?
>It's like driving an old car
Umm, so it's literally better in every way?

You have demonstrably shown that you don't have a passion for video games. Your opinion is meaningless and contributes only distress to the concurrent discussion. Eat a dick.

>>385164909
All of /v/ is just opinions, this whole thread is just opinions.
adding "in my opinion" to the end doesn't change shit.

>>385164161
>>385164175
>Two games out of my entire list that you two happened to not like.

My point still stands, the argument of "Last good FPS" is bullshit and no one can make it in a genuine manner.

>>385164909
Then why are you on /v/ instead of playing these alleged perfect games (in your opinion)?

>>385165754
And my point was that Wolfenstein 2009 was shit. My point still stands m8.

>>385166003
Your point doesn't stand because Wolf '09 is not shit.

>>385166149
It is.

>>385166201
Stop lying.

New thread:
>>385166961

>>385166994
Are you actually autistic?

>>385167096
>Implying it takes autismal focus to copy and paste shitposting