Sonic Mania hype thread.

>>385114017
What's the release date? Does the Switch have a physical copy?

>>385114089

Mania is download only on all platforms.

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>>385114017

>>385114089
August 15th, it's digital only on all platforms. It comes out on Xbox One, PS4, Switch and PC.

>>385114140
Oh, that's lame.

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>>385114070

>>385114070
Funny how Sonic Forces falls under this, yet Mania doesn't.

>>385114778
On the contrary, Forces had no hype whatsoever at its reveal, but the more Deviantart tier the game got the more interested people became in it

>>385114564
KNOCK KNOCK IT'S KNUCKLES

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fucking plebians, everybody knows the best game is mean bean machine

>>385114889
True, then again I haven't been hype for a Sonic game for like a decade.

I'm sure some autists are hype for the in game OC creator. At least they're pandering to someone.

>>385115067
But can I platform through it?

Fuck off with this stupid romhack, tell me when SA3 comes out

>>385114778
It doesn't apply to Forces since opinions about it are differing so wildly. People are excited for Forces, people despise its existence, people couldn't care less for it.
If the final product is functional, reception could largely be dictated by personal tastes.

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>>385114889
>Boost gameplay is back, no gimmicks outside of classic Sonic
Lol who cares
>Make your own Original The Character, new villain is edgier than classic Lara Croft's tits
REAL SHIT?

>>385115203
if by "platform" you mean "freeing beans from Doctor Ivo Robotnik" than yes

>>385114889
This is true, the OC creator already convinced me to buy it, the ultra edgy villain it's the cherry on top of the sundae. The game is going to be pure cheese and I love it

>>385114964

UNLIKE SONIC I DON'T CHUCKLE

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>>385115236
I wonder if/when SA3 ever comes out years down the line people will say it's a mod of older Sonic Adventure games or something.

>>385115236
stay salty, adventurecuck
:^)

>>385114017
The game looks rad to me, personally, but from the videos I can tell a lot of the more pampered babby sonicfags are gonna hate the game. There's more than a few instances of beginner's trap obstacles to slow impatient gamers down. Standard for old style platformers of that era, but not commonplace in today's watered down, 'everyone's a winnar!' era of modern gaming.

>>385115236
It will never EVER come out.

keep SEETHING adventurecuck

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>>385114017
CAN'T FUCKING WAIT TO PLAY THESE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjJxKlxY5ag&t=930s

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WHY ISN'T THERE A PHYSICAL RELEASE FOR MANIA?
WHY DOESN'T SAID PHYSICAL RELEASE COME IN A SEGA SATURN JEWEL CASE?
WHY? WHY? WHY?

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>>385115236
it came out in 2006

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Sakura Synagouge, goy, don't forget the 6 gorillion badniks.

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>>385115236
>wah rehashing X is a terrible idea
>give me Y rehash instead!
The absolute state of the Sonic fanbase

>>385115739
https://twitter.com/HCStealth/status/889617345613897729

>>385115701
you can easily make one yourself, friendo

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>>385115236
HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Reminder you all can watch the SDCC Sonic Mania panel here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K6hU14wero

>>385115838
I wonder how much of what they read they were like "Oh shit that one is actually true." Like unlockable Amy

>>385115236

The adventure series is completely mediocre. From SA1 to 06. They'll never go back. Eat shit adventurecuck

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>>385116119
UNLOCKABLE AMY FUCKING WHEN

>>385114070
that's one durable meme considering the cycle only ever applied to 06 and unleashed

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>>385114089
>>385114140
>>385114474
>when they finally get the green light to make the S3K remaster, they'll bundle 1, 2, CD, 3K, and Mania all together in a physical disc
I would cum for weeks.

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>>385115701

I can understand why some are disappointed, but I can't for the life of me understand why physicalfags get so triggered by digital-only releases, to the point of refusing to buy the game.

I mean, it seems like they are not even buying the game for the game, but just to "have" it. The actual game should always come first.

>>385116346
>when they finally get the green light to make the S3K remaster
>when
You mean if, and a big if

Chances are that shit aint ever happening

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>>385116119
>>385116270
Never EVER

>>385116593

Nah, it will. Mania took 23 fucking years but it happened.

>>385116938
Imagine how many died before this finally happened.

F

>>385117069
16

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be honest, how many times have you played through the genesis titles to get ready for Mania?

>>385117356
None
Last time i played 3&K has been over a year
Going in as fresh as mentos

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>>385117356
Played through 3&K as both Sonic and Knuckles last week, will do a Tails run sometime this week. I'll also do 100% runs of the four classic games four days before Mania, one game per day.

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>>385117356

Got to Carnival Night and stopped. I completely lose the will to play anything when I'm hyped for something, especially in the same series.

>>385115520
why did Sonic look so gross in X

>>385117356
It finally got me to go and play Sonic CD

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>>385117356
>Only turn the games on to record a webm or take a screenshot for these threads
>Eventually just start replaying the whole game
It's happened multiple times now, especially with Sonic 3 Complete & Sonic 1. Although I did replay Sonic 1 during his 26th anniversary by coincidence a month ago.

Who /didn't listen to Special Stage music/ here?

these hype threads have become garbage recently. I'm fucking outta here.

>>385117356
A lot. Rebeat sonic 1, 2, and 3K. About to do 3K as knuckles.

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>>385117776

Just for 30 seconds and stopped. Same for Hard Boiled Heavies through the preview for the latter was so good that it was really hard to stop.

I'm leaving these threads once we get to 7 days till launch.

>>385117778
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWIsD58xzes

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>>385114017

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>>385116270
Who?

>>385117356
0, I've never beat a MD Sonic game since after the first few Stages they become extremely unfun and frustrating.

>>385117356

I play Sonic 1 and CD like, weekly. They're some of my go-to games that I just play through whenever I feel bored or need something to keep my reflexes and mind sharp.

>>385117947
is it possible to stop his animation at the very last second before he jumps?

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>>385117356
I'm mostly playing Romhacks and S3Complete.

Should try to do a Tails run on CD later.

>>385118229
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6yootst7Jc

>>385118189

>frustrating

I can think of maybe 3 games easier than Sonic 2 and 3.

Barney's Hide and Seek, Chip n Dale Rescue Rangers, and....Mega Man 5? Maybe?

Not counting baby-poo PS3 and 4 games for casualfags, of course.

>>385118189
even Sonic 2? I mean that's the go to game for easiness since it doesn't really start getting hard until Oil Ocean and you're already more than halfway done with the game.

>>385115557
>>385115587
>>385116151
>Adventurecuck
>you fucks have been playing the same shitty hold right games for years
>calling others cucks
Yikes.

>>385115236
I know this is bait, but surely there are people out there who have the self awareness to see the hypocrisy in calling out fans for wanting a game that appeals to nostalgia while at the same time wanting a game that appeals to their nostalgia?

>>385118318
never knew that. That's pretty cool

>>385118487
You got Sonic 06, Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic heroes HAHAHAHAAHAHA

SEETHING

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryrT0msqwOk

>>385118357
w-we can't all be good at video games, anon. I didn't grow up playing these games.

>>385117356
I beat 2 twice though I can't be compelled to get the Chaos Nachos. I'm halfway through as Knuckles in 3K after 100% with Sonic & Tails.
CD is next than I'll top it off with the original.

>>385114017
I still can't believe they're only charging 20USD for this. Honestly I'd pay 40 who am I kidding I'd pay full price for this.

Is there a way I can give them more? I want to fully support this.

>>385116938
it is literally easier and cheaper for them to make mania than for them to negotiate a S3K rerelease. it's not happening bud.

>>385118908
Buy more

>>385118908
Buy more copies, buy collector's edition, spread the word

>>385118908
Buy it on a console and on PC, or buy a second copy on Steam and gift it to someone in a thread on launch day.

>>385118935

Why, because of music issues? They can just literally replace them with new Tee Lopes stuff and count on the community to hack the originals back for the purists.

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>>385118885
there's nothing stopping you from getting better anon except patience. In fact, the games get better and funner the longer you play them

It must suck to have been born in the early '90s. Your first exposure to video games was experimental 3D shit like Banjo-Kazooie and Sonic Adventure 2 and the industry has long since moved on from making that sort of outdated game. People who grew up with NES and SNES stuff are OK since those kind of games are just simple enough that indie makers can satisfy them. But 90s babbys? They get Yooka Laylee. Fucking kek. Go fuck a teletubby, 90s babbys.

>>385118908
Buy more. I'm getting the PC Collectors edition and the Xbone version

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>>385118672
Why is the Metal Sonic (Mecha Sonic?) from Sonic and Knuckles the best version of Metal Sonic?

When will we get a game that has you fight the 3 different metal Sonics in a row?

>>385118908
>Is there a way I can give them more? I want to fully support this.
Just double dip, buy it on console and PC

>>385117138
million

>>385119073
yeah anon, it's exactly that simple and sega is writing you a check right now for your brilliant idea.

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>>385119090
Yuji Naka is the original speedrunner.

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>>385119178
>Go fuck a teletubby, 90s babbys.
it's funny you mention that

>>385119370

Why shouldn't it be this simple?

>>385119482
>read that as Collision Chads
I need sleep.

>>385118283
Just downloaded S3C myself, it's pretty neat so far. Never actually legit got all the chaos emeralds in S3&K, gonna try and do that for the first time. How hard is it to get all of them anyways? I feel like I'm likely to run out of stages if I don't find enough of the hidden areas first.

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>tfw actually don't mind the adventure games
they're like 90's superhero movies, you know they suck but there's a charm to how bad they are.

>>385119482
guess this entire stage is collision chaos

>>385119482
Whoa I'm gonna have to try this

Fuck that boss

>>385118190
Are Sonic CD and 1 worth playing through? I've barely touched either game and have played 2, 3 and Knuckles a ton. I've heard they're both kinda meh.

>>385117778
THIS GAME OF TAG IS BORING, I'M OUTTA HERE!

>>385119625
If you beat the game the rings respawn on level select so you can just go to Angel Island and Mushroom Hill over and over until you get them.
It's pretty easy to get all the Chaos emeralds in one run, the Super emeralds not so much.

THREE (3) WEEKS

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>>385119726
Keep in mind, it doesn't work on the Taxman remake unlike this.

>>385119865
They're both pretty good, they just have a few more flaws than the other classic games.

1 has no spindash, and half the levels are slow, brutally difficult slogs.
CD's stages are fucking huge, but laid out kind of weirdly. You're meant to explore them more than other games. Also FUCK Wacky Workbench. Anyone that defends that stage is outright lying through their teeth in saying it's any good.

>>385120081
Neat
Is that Western?

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>>385119653
I actually really enjoy the first 3 characters in Adventure 1, those being Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles. Sonic especially, I feel like in Adventure 1 the levels are designed pretty well for his abilities and what the player can do.

The rest aren't terrible but just meh, except Big who blows chunks. Gamma could have been more fun if the bosses weren't so fucking easy. The last boss was a nice change of pace but it was still the last boss.

It hasn't aged well but SA1 is still a solid game, I think. It's not the best but it's not the god-awful glitchy mess some people make it to be. Well, sometimes

>>385119994
>It's pretty easy to get all the Chaos emeralds in one run, the Super emeralds not so much.

Literally what is the difference? I assumed there was only chaos emeralds?

>>385120081
Shit, I'll have try this too.
And I figured that by the 4:3 aspect ratio, guess I'll have to dig out Gems Collection.

>>385117356
I'm trying not to do any full-blown playthroughs but I'll boot up 3&K or 2 every now and again and just run through my favorite zones for a bit.

>>385119865

You're asking me, though. I like them because they require more skill to play because they involve more jumping, platforming, and bopping enemies instead of the more speed-focused entries in the series. If you're asking me, then hell yes they're worth playing. If you're asking some ADD-riddled Ritalin toddler born in the '90s who runs screaming from the television at even the sight of even a little bit of challenge or required effort, then probably not.

>>385120208
It's like a 5/10 game, same with Adventure 2 really. Neither are offensive and they have their good points but both can easily be boring.

>>385120178
I won't DEFEND Wacky Workbench, but I have fun with it when I play it.

I-is that okay?

>>385120383
Yeah, I love SA1 because I played SADX a lot growing up so maybe I'm a bit biased. But I absolutely agree, there's not much to the game once you beat Sonic's story. Tails' isn't terrible but he's kind of broken so he just tears levels open, Knuckles can be hit-and-miss but at least it isn't SA2 hunting levels.

I still do wish they'd return to the formula and try it out again. Sonic Adventure had amazing control, every character minus the mech levels in 2 felt like they had a really good weight and feel to them. Sonic felt like he controlled perfectly.

I'll admit I was one of the retards hoping out for Dreamcast Sonic to be the 3rd character in Forces. I just wanted to see Adventure-style gameplay done without being a buggy mess.

>>385120481

I like Wacky Workbench because I got good at it a long time ago and now I know how to navigate it quickly and have fun doing it.

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>>385120202
Western?

>>385120308
Have another more commonly known one.

>>385120208
The thing with the Adventure era is that every game was always planned with only three characters in mind and then they always just add more for padding.

>Adventure 1 was only planned with Sonic Tails and Knuckles in mind. Added Amy, Big, and Gamma to make the game longer
>Adventure 2 was only planned with Sonic, Knuckles, and Eggman in mind. Shadow was always meant to be an antagonist and boss but was later made playable. Rouge was made later to add more to the game and match Knuckles. Tails was going to be a cutscene character only like Amy but was made playable because fans wanted him. Tails, Rouge and Shadow's levels all have problems the other three don't have. Coincidence?
>Sonic Heroes was only planned with Team Sonic in mind. Added the other teams later and made them mandatory for the final story just to add playtime instead of making them cleverly disguised optional difficulties like they actually are.

>>385120251
If you get all the emeralds before mushroom hill, you unlock the Super emerald alter and lose the Chaos emeralds. Get all 7 and you get Hyper Sonic, who has a broken af air dash that doubles as a screen nuke and can breathe underwater.

>>385119269
Good taste, Mecha Sonic is the shit

>>385120685
Shadow levels aren't too bad but I see your point. I fucking hate the Tails levels in 2.

I only replayed the game recently and I never realized how fucking bad the controls are until then.

It's a shame they wanted to make more content just by adding more characters rather than expanding the game itself. I'm all for variety and different playstyles, but you're right that they were just slammed in so the game could feel longer.

>>385120208
I find that most of the bad glitches come from when the game tries to play the game for you. It's a programming flaw that shouldn't exist in the first place when you consider it's only there to be cinematic. Adventure 2 is a little more polished but it also requires you to play every game style to progress and I preferred the liberty of choosing characters. If anything the games are just boring. With SA1 the trio are fine while the rest is meh and in SA2 Sonic/Shadow are fine while the rest is meh.

>>385120646
Neat, thanks anon

>>385119269
>When will we get a game that has you fight the 3 different metal Sonics in a row?

in 20 days

>>385119269
>>385120961
>When will we get a game that has you fight the 3 different metal Sonics in a row?
LEGO Dimensions.

>>385114070
This doesn't make sense though.

Unleashed and Colours never had friends prominent in them, and were generally well recieved outside of the gimmicks.

The Rush games that were releasing around and after 06 had Blaze and prominent side characters in the story and those were fantastic.

Even if you hated those games, most people would agree that Generations already shattered the Sonic Cycle. The only main game since then (not counting Boom, which was never hyped) was Lost World which was shitty but not for any of the reasons in this image.

In fact the only game since Sonic 06 that this image could ever possibly desscribe, is ironically Forces. And even then, Forces only non-Sonic playable character is an OC, a new idea in the gampley of the series. Other than that, it looks like Generations 2.

TL;DR- this image is a shitty attempt to recreate the Zelda cycle (which is almost as retarded)

>>385120851
The problem with Shadow's levels aren't the design (aside from Final Chase), it's that there's so few of them. And some of those few don't even make sense for him to be there, like Sky Rail. You can tell his levels were just shoehorned in.

>>385120481
I can't stop you from having fun. But some people find hurting small animals fun.

I just hate Wacky Workbench because of those electric coils. Bouncing around would be fun if they didn't slap you in the face and you can't control jack shit about it.

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SOMEONE POST THE ONE COMIC SCENE WHERE SONIC GIVES METAL SONIC THE GEAR AND SONIC CATCHES AMY ONCE METAL SONIC RUNS!
>Super cute ;w;

>>385120928
Yeah, most of the glitches come from trying to fight the game's auto-moving. Sometimes it does it even when you're trying not to thanks to the camera, but it can be a pain in the ass.

My problem with 2 is that the levels feel a lot more..bottled up? Not as open as the levels in 1 felt, I suppose. They're still both a blast to play but I find myself enjoying 1 a lot more.

Even if they're both just okay games, I still think they're not as bad as some people make them out to be in some aspects. People talk about these games like they're the devil and they killed Sonic, but they're not that awful. Granted, they're not amazing either. Just okay. But still kind of fun.

>>385121087
Huh, never thought of it like that. That makes a lot of sense, though. It's a shame there's so little Shadow levels though because I think most of them were fun.

Even though Sky Rail didn't make much sense in the story it was still a fun stage. The music is kickass too.

>>385120330
Honestly, the thing that appealed to me when playing Sonic 2 as a kid was the fact that the game's fairly easy. I really couldn't play difficult platformers and I still don't really like them all that much, Sonic 2 is a very forgiving game as far as getting hit by hazards or falling down pits go, which is why I enjoyed the game so much.

I really should give 1 more of a try though.

>>385120718
Sheeit, really? This is like some elementary school rumor bullshit, but I want to believe it.

>>385120646
He could have saved a couple of seconds if he did a super peel-out at the end.

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>>385121332
It is real, anon. And it's worth all the pain the Super Emeralds will give you.

He can breathe underwater too, so you don't need a Bubble Shield as Super Sonic to live forever.

>>385121276
2 is definitely more linear so it can be faster. I would of liked it if they stuck with the more open approach but so many factors come into play when turning a 2D series into 3D. A lot of the hate comes from years of praise. For the longest time Adventure 2 was held as high as 3&K. It had an insane amount of nostalgia with it and everyone just went with it because hey, 3K is still good, same must be for SA2. Then everyone replayed and noticed it wasn't as good as remembered. They're not amazing and they're not complete pieces of shit, they're somewhere in the middle.

>>385115067
There's a mean bean machine section in sonic mania

>>385121737
Yeah 2 gets held in high regard a lot. Never really sure why, maybe it's just because a lot of people liked Shadow or what you said, nostalgia.

That's a good point, though. There are a lot of speedier levels in 2 that I will admit have sections that I adore. Especially shit like Metal Harbor. But I do like the more open levels of 1 a tad more.

>>385121332

Not trying to be a jerk or anything, but I don't think you'll enjoy Sonic 1 that much. If you don't like difficult platformers at all, it'll probably frustrate you a lot. It's not nearly the hardest platformer out there, but it does have parts that require you to practice to get good.

Sonic 2 is definitely more kid-friendly in that regard. I don't think that love for Sonic 2 will translate over to Sonic 1. If you haven't played Sonic 3, I definitely suggest you give that one a try. It's basically just more of Sonic 2's style.

>>385119558
Ask Sega.

>>385121959
sonic 1 is the easiest though, even without the spindash.

>>385121332
I assure you that Hyper Sonic and Hyper Knuckles are very real
No Hyper Tails though

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>>385121163
Here you go.

>>385121383
All of these webms have been me playing by the way, I didn't know that would've been faster at the time since I assumed charging would've wasted time.

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>>385121163
>>385122123

>>385122086

I've played through all of the Sonic games hundreds of times to the point where I can't differentiate between their difficulty anymore. I can say that Sonic 1 requires more hand-eye coordination, though, as it's more jumpy. It'll definitely keep you busier than the others (except CD). Whatever that's worth.

>>385121916
The Chao Garden definitely helped. With SA1 it was more of a chore but the amount of depth put into it for 2 made players want to replay the levels constantly for rings, drives, and animals. Constant playthroughs made the bad things less evident and as a result they blocked out all the negatives. Anyone who goes back to it will say "I don't remember it being this bad".

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>>385122321
That was me but for the mech levels.

Christ main, those things control like fucking tanks. I don't know how I put up with this shit as a kid.

>>385118495
the difference is that the classic are also well design games, the adventures games have objective flaws that undermine the whole experience.
If sonic never happened and was an indie today, classic sonic would be a bit laughed at for the pixel graphic but would probably gather some following for the nice gameplay, adventure would became famous because it would be put forward by youtubers for the broken piece of garbage it is.

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>>385122209
>Chuckles

>>385119502
>new teletubbies
STOOOOOOP

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look at that fucker in the bottom left

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>>385122650

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>>385119482

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>>385122407
Same here. The only thing that never changed between then and now are the treasure stages. Always hated levels like Death Chamber and Mad Space. The mech levels were always easy for me, used to A rank the missions constantly. I guess you're more willing to put up with crap that interests you when your a kid.

>>385122321
I played it about a year ago it was more or less exactly the same as I remembered.
Same for Adventure 1 and that was even more recently.
The camera is a little more of a nuisance than I remember though.

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>>385114778
>Funny how Sonic Forces falls under this, yet Mania doesn't.

Um...

so we getting a new song today or what?

>>385123069
This theory is already debunked. The instruction booklet proves Mania is canonically after 3K and Classic Sonic in Forces comes from a different dimension, not the past.

>>385123069
the fact that sega execs decided to make mania into a glorified ad of forces doesn't change the fact that it's likely to be the better game of the two and hardly fits the cycle meme

>>385123246
>The instruction booklet proves Mania is canonically after 3K

What does that have to do with anything?

>and Classic Sonic in Forces comes from a different dimension, not the past.

And he comes back with drop dash. Also explain to me which sonic he is then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLcblxrrE0Q

Uh Oh

>>385123246
Won't stop it being posted in every single Mania thread though.

>>385123649
Because that would imply Mania takes place in a different dimension than the canon, which the booklet already debunks because it places it in the canon timeline.

>>385115236
Sonic Advanced 3 already is out though.

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>Iizuka's bit about "not thinking Mania would have a lot of hype" is fake and he's using Mania to shill Forces because he's knows the fanbase is divided and this is just an attempt to bridge everybody and increase profit for Forces
fuck you this is my new headcanon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSUFyJauS6E

>>385118908
This is going to sound crazy, but Buy Forces too.

If both games are successful, Iizuka will see that consecutive 2D and 3D games can coexist, and we might get regular sequels for both.

Plus, Forces has Classic Sonic, so Forces being succesful will yet again confirm there is still a market for the little guy.

If the games dont do well, Mania and Forces might be Classic Sonics swan song.

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>>385123998
I would kill for Sonic Advance 3's team mechanic in a game with better level design.

>>385123898
>Grasping at straws over a throwaway line in eggman's jabbering for autistic children

>Classic Sonic looks and functions exactly like classic sonic in generations except he's "from another dimension" and not the same classic sonic like this makes any fucking sense to anyone

>Have fucking nothing to say about drop dash, every time

lol
>

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>sonic was never good.

>>385124294
I would kill just for Rosy who to be playable again.

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>>385124490
WHAT THE FUCK MAN THIS IS BULLSHIT

>>385124490
Even 'holding right to win' is too complicated for modern gamers.

>>385124294
the Advance sprites were butt ugly, but fuck if they weren't fluid

>>385124490
>being this bad at vidya

>>385114889
>>385114889
Not really. Virtually everyone who's been able to play the game says it's terrible.

Maybe if you enjoy games ironically you'll like it but I like my game to be actually good

>>385123069
>>385123649
>>385124391
what point are you trying to prove

>>385125432
That he is le epic sanic ezpurt

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>>385124294
What did Rosy mean by this?

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Do you niggers even know about SPINDASHING ON WALLS?

>>385125704
That's a cool idea.

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>>385125592

>>385125432
Mania Sonic is in forces and mania is a prequel to forces, at the minimum. Infinite could be the power source in Mania's booklet.

>>385125704
He could do that in Advance 3?

Shit, that's cool. I'd love to see that idea used again.

>>385125584
Why are you so mad. Forces is Mania 2, you don't have to wait as long

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>>385122845
The issue with Treasure Hunting isn't even the concept of treasure hunting. The first ones, hell, even the Rouge 5 minutes one, are actually pretty great stages because it's easy to get to places. Pumpkin Hill is actually perfection since it's wie open, letting you fly anywhere, and has a whole bunch of shortcutrockets.

Then you have the pyramid levels which are a bunch of shitty corridors with warp-based navigation.

And THEN you have the fucking space levels, which take a new player 4 minutes minimum to go from bottom to top.

They made characters that control great, and gave them some okay gameplay mechanics. And then they put them in the worst, least navigateable levels imaginable.

Think of a Meteor Herd but with rockets that instantly bring you to the top. That would be fiteen thousand times a better stage.

>>385125946
>Forces is Mania 2

Except it doesn't play anything like Mania. The only reason people give even a single shit about Mania is the gameplay.

i bet you're one of those retarded people that thinks the classic sonic parts of generations are good

>>385125946
>Forces

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwww

>>385125941
Probably could only do it with a few characters. 'm assuming amy and sonic.

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>>385125704
that's actually pretty cool. We gotta stop giving Dimps so much shit all because of Sonic 4. They did the Advanced and Rush games too

>>385125704
I was reading a tread on Sonic Retro earlier today and someone suggested a way to speed up Knuckles' wall climb as a new feature. So I though how you could do that and though up of a wall spindash thinking that's a relatively new idea, and then you show me this gif, fuck you.

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>>385126325
>w-we should forgive Sonic 4
Fuck.
You.

>>385126231
>He's just going to let Infinite get away at the end of Mania and not follow him into forces

Well ok anon, I can't make you finish the series

>>385126197
I saw lot of hate for treasure hunting, but I kinda like it, and it's probably because I played more SA1 than 2. In 1 knuckles levels are the open areas of sonic stages, and you are basically free to finally explore them and mess around, whole also learning some routes to try again with sonic.
Also the emerald radar is not cancer incarnate

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>>385126325
Dimps was actually kinda buttfucked with Sonic 4. The game was originally a mobile game concept and then they got told it wouldn't work and they had a better idea for a mobile game (which to be truthful, it was).

So they took the game they were making and repurposed it as a "real game". And that's just the start of the mess that kept happening.

They're still to blame for a lot of it.

>>385126468
I never said that. I said it's stupid to hate an entire companies catalog for one bad game

>>385126468
Woah woah woah slow down Anon.

I'm the local 4fag, we have chill discussions about Mania and the classics and we don't talk about 4 for the sake of keeping the peace.

I'm gonna have to ask you to step down.

>>385126468
>SterlingTSM

kek

>>385125856
The power source is the replacement for the Super emeralds Izuka was talking about.
At least that's my guess.

Post your favorite Sonic Mania song so far

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yw-qVY96sis

>>385126468
>Take an image made to demonstrate how terrible the sonic 4 defense force is on one guy's video
>Calls it the entire fanbase

Oh fuck off with that filename, gobber.

when is the torrent up????

>>385126468
I've made my peace with Sonic 4. It's still utter trash, even on its own terms. But was likely a necessary stepping stone to get where we're at now.

At the time, it was an insult. I figured they'd have just moved on from Classicfag pandering after failing horribly, and hop righ back on that Adventurecuck dick, but I was wrong. Who knew they would stick with it, that it was a sign of better times to come.

Looking back on the Sonic 4 threads on Retro is surreal. They actually listened, in the end.

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>>385126770
>>Calls it the entire fanbase
You what?

What did the sonic twitter shitposter mean by this?
https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/889900109223272448

>>385126468
>1. yes it is
>2. yes they do

Burned that nigga.

>>385126801
Fuck you dude.

>>385126770
He was saying that the Sonic 4 Defense Force is the cancer within the Sonic fanbase.

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Post yfw you collect all of the Chaos Emeralds in Mania and are about to transform for the first time

>>385115236
are you the "boostshit" guy?

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>>385127003
AMYFAGS BTFO

>>385125387
>Virtually everyone who's been able to play the game says it's terrible.

True, but how exactly does that deny what he said? Are you retarded?

>>385127003
what the fuck is wrong with the timer? It doesn't look right
also kek at the first reply

>>385127014
i don't buy romhacks, wheres my torrent fuck??

>>385127391

I'll be up in about 3 weeks

>>385127003
God damn it Aaron you were supposed to be our guy!

>>385125704
Too many people focus on Advance's level design and not the good ideas it also brought, Like giving Sonic a way to float in the water and I think Tails and Amy had some cool stuff together (can't remember which but I know I used that team a lot).

>>385127447
isnt it out now? the game i mean, my bad, shit

>>385127162
It's just LimitCrown/Unleashedfag

>>385127003
NO....WAIT....NOOOO IT'S NOT FAIR

>>385126762
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGR5fTO2oio
lights,camera,action

>>385126468
>PEOPLE GOT MAD THAT PEOPLE DONT LIKE A GAME SO I DONT LIKE IT

I mean it's not a great game but that's a really stupid point of view.

>>385127354
The video itself has the block going back & forth so I think they edited the timer with an incorrect font to look like it's not repeatedly going backwards & forwards every couple of seconds.

>>385126762
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLcblxrrE0Q

I can't stop listening to this theme, it's fucking amazing. Tee Lopes is doing wonders with the soundtrack.

>>385126325
They did ColoursDS too.

The ironic redpill is that Dimps were consistently the best developers Sonic ever had, with a 6-game track record of good-to-great games. Seriously, Advance and Advance 3 are some of the best games in the series, completely twisting everything that made the classics great. The Team-Up mechanic made the game more replayable than possibly any game to date. Rush introduced the Boost gameplay in an incredibly successful way, with some incredible levels and music. Rush Adventure might be my favorite game to date, absolutely incredible levels, and addicting challenge missions. And ColoursDS is the better version of an already great and underatted Sonic game.

When they were tasked with Sonic 4, they got absolutely buttfucked. They built it from the ground up as a mobile game as instructed, and were told to make it playable on fucking consoles when it was too late. This is why it took them over a fuckign YEAR to make Episode 2, because they basically had to build it from the ground up AGAIN so the second episode wasn't so obviously a fucking mobile game port. Episode 2 was a huge improvement, even borrowing from Advance 3 with the Team-Up mechanic. But it was too late, nobody touched the game with a 10 ft pole, and Dimps got dropped.

Now we will never get Rush 3 & Knuckles or any more games with proper Team-Up mechanics, or GOOD Genesis-inspired games with a modern aesthetic.

Don't get me wrong, Mania looks great, but its very clearly sitting safe in that nostalgic sweetspot, rather than innovating 2D Sonic like Dimps did.

>>385127659
yeah, that was my impression but why going through the effort? It's obvious anyway.
They could have spent the time to switch the lava tileset with amy sprites, would have been funnier whatever

>>385127003
>score is 68010 (6+8+1=15)
>time is different font
>7 rings

What was meant by this?

>>385127649
the sonic fanbase is autistic as hell so people who like the games I don't = literally hitler

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Is this real?

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>>385127003
delet this

>>385127797
innovation is useless if the level design sucks.
Rush is literal garbage. DIMPS is garbage. The only non subpar game is advance one for some miracle

>>385117356

I'm doing that after I finish mania

I don't want to burn out on dessert before the main course

>>385115236
You got Adventure 3 atleast 2-3 times.

>>385127952
>Rush is literal garbage.
Stopped reading

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What zone was this gimmick shown in? Have we seen it anywhere yet?

>>385127797
>underrated

Really? I don't see Rush as a game that people underrate, but maybe you're just saying that it's kind of forgotten.

I feel like part of the problem with Dimps is that people realized that their physics for Sonic were getting kind of wonky, especially with 4. Rush kind of had similar physics for those games but the game was designed a bit around them with the boost and other features. 4 was not, so the game felt kind of sloppy as a result.

It is a bit of a shame that Dimps will probably not touch anything Sonic related again because of 4. Advance 2 was one of my favorite GBA games, I used to play that shit all the time.

Though fuck how they handled Chaos Emeralds before Rush. Shit was annoying.

>>385128096
flying battery obviously

>>385128096
That's in Flying Battery Zone anon.

>>385128062
but it is. only a faggot starved for games could consider that shit having any good level design.

>>385127003
https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/881919189509824513

https://twitter.com/playasia/status/882657283611742208

https://twitter.com/RubyEclipse/status/872900442606379008

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>>385117356
Finished the mobile ports of 1, 2, and CD recently. Currently playing 3&K via the Gamecube Mega Collection. Want to have 100% on all four games before Mania but not with every character to avoid burning myself out.

>>385128184
The last Sonic related thing they've done was the Lost World 3DS game, which wasn't very good.

>>385126325
Everyone liked Dimps until 4. They've had a pretty shoddy track record starting from there, with Generations 3D being mediocre and Lost World 3D being the worst game in the series since 06.

>>385126762

Studiopolis = Mirage Saloon > Hi Spec Robo Go > Dimension Heist

>>385128457
Oh, they did Lost World 3DS?

That would explain the really annoying special stages then.

Man, Lost World 3DS could have been a good game. It started out pretty fun, but then you get to the fucking winter world and you have the level that takes over 20 minutes because you're fucking rolling snowballs everywhere and that's where I threw the game out.

They have good ideas, but sometimes Dimps went a bit too far.

>>385125387
>Virtually everyone who's been able to play the game says it's terrible.
So far the only thing to back up this is Nintendo Life, who also played the Switch version which is the worst one.

Every other person who played the game, who either made a video or wrote an article, and played the PS4/XBONE versions, says the game is good. The graphics, how the game plays, the music, etc. Literally he only polarizing thing people are butting heads over is the custom OC. One side says it's too slow and platforming is too stiff, the other side says it plays well and the platforming is tight. What both sides can agree on is that it is challenging, and not just running and spamming the weapon like most thought.

So yea. Opinions are strong on Forces because it's coming after Lost World which was also a mixed bag when it came to the fanbase, and Boom which was terrible. Meanwhile Mania is what everyone loved about the Classics and made by the fans, so nothing can actually go wrong.

>>385128503
Eh, even before that I was pretty annoyed at all the boat shit in Rush Adventure and I didn't like Colors DS although I know a lot of people do so that just might be me.

Why do Sonic fans even bother interacting with other Sonic fans? You assholes are so autistic that you'd pick a fight with another Sonic fan if they had just one tiny preference that differed from your own. There isn't a fan base in the world that slices hairs thinner than the Sonic fan base.

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>>385127797
I still loved the advanced titles despite the bad level design

>>385117356
I've been playing all of them recently. Mania's release has made me fall in love with the classic games again. I've full cleared Sonic 1 and got just the chaos emeralds in 3&K, but I'll go back for the super emeralds probably soon. I'll get on full clearing Sonic 2 soon as well.

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Who are the people living in the cities Eggman keeps building?

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>>385120208

You made my day anon, ty

>>385128816
>they called my modern garbage game shit
look, if this was /stgh/ you could have a point. This thread is for sonic mania. If you want to praise dimps level design you can go to >>>/vg/ or make a thread for that.
Why you autistic adventurefags/boostnigger have to latch on threads that not made for you and then complain when people dislikes the games you bring up when they are considered shit? Fuck off

>>385128597
Lost World's special stages were truly something to behold. How the fuck did they make it through testing.

>>385129024
His robot friends

>>385128931
Bottemless pits were only a problem for me in Adv2

I never even noticed them for most of the Advanced/Rush games. (Except Cyber Gadget when I was a kid)

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The only good Sonic Games are:
-Sonic Jam
-Sonic R
-Sonic Adventure
-Sonic Shuffle
-Sonic Adventure 2
-Sonic Battle
-Shadow the Hedgehog
-Sonic 06

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>>385128096
Have a webm of it if you don't remember it from Flying Battery.

>385129395
You don't even deserve a (You) for your post

>>385129395
Sonic Advance 3 is probably one of the best 2D games I've ever played

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XnxUzzJg9M

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>O-Oh, you don't need me in Sonic Mania? Guess I'll just stay over here then...

>>385127498
Floating in water and dropping down on demand is a really good idea in general.

>>385129517
I hate how bloated this got

>>385129248
You'd think like, every early 3DS game and that one had some kind of fucking obligation from Nintendo to require gyro controls.

Even Generations 3DS with it's rehashing of the Heroes special stages was better.

>>385129798
Amy mod for Mania will probably happen

>>385129879
Every game was needed.

Mario would of needed 2 or even 3 charts.

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>>385127354
Batgirls are the best

>>385127882
Confirmed fake

>>385117356
About 10 times from the 53 times i've played this game since i was a kid.

>>385130089
I'm looking foward to FP2 as well. Taxman even helped a bit.

>>385130006
And I'll make it myself if I have to. Seriously, I've learned how to do it to Generations as practice. I'm ready.

>>385129798
You're gonna be unlockable rosy

>>385130184
yeah he sorted out unity for them it looks a tonne better than the first game and the autozoom camera is pretty slick

>>385129414
>not rolling here
C'mon man it's one of the fastest sections in the game

>>385115236
I don't even need my pasta today, the faggot presented itself today.

>>385117356
The classic Sonic games are my go-to games these days. I've played them an unhealthy amount. I NEED Mania in my hands.

>>385128816
that happens constantly. The last thread spun into shit flinging because some guy preferred Sonic 1 over CD.

>>385129414
ROLL YOU MOTHERFUCKER

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>>385130381
Fuck i forgot my identity image.

>>385130464
Tomposter lives!

>>385130349
>>385130425
I only wasn't rolling to copy the image, trust me I always do it for more speed.

>>385128816
Thats because of how bipolar Sega has been with Sonic over the years, but this thread's for classicfags and they my niggas.

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>>385130069
Now it's complete.

>>385130964
Forgot secret rings

>>385130326
Godspeed Rosyfag

>>385131569
>LATER FUCKER

>>385130832
the problem is there just isn't enough to talk about for the amount of Mania threads made. These are only good when something is happening like when the panel was starting and we got information on the new special stage. Otherwise it's just fighting with adventurefags, boostfags, and even other classicfags if they have a controversial opinion.

>>385131569
Hyper Sonic so fast he can phase through solid objects

>>385132209
you can do that a few times to play knuckles bosses and shit

>>385131569
Hyper Sonic destroyed time and space again. Oh that kidder.

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>>385132209
You can do it with normal Sonic with a spindash also if you're good enough.

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Went back and made some adjustments to an old reactions image.

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>>385131253
Thanks.

>>385132764
I feel like the face under Mania is gonna be my face when I finish it. I'm going to get a bit teary for sure.

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>>385126535
>Also the emerald radar is not cancer incarnate

This. The radar is why people hated SA2's hunting stages so much and most of them don't even realize it. The SA1 radar had like, six levels of detection, which made finding emerald pieces quite painless, whereas the SA2 radar's functionality was practically cut in half. It was so bad that in Battle they had to add a (!) icon over your head just to make things less irritating. Now, I kind of get where they were coming from. Knuckles' stages in SA1 were piss easy and could typically be completed in under 30 seconds if you know the level layouts. But somehow, I don't think crippling the emerald radar's detection levels was necessarily the answer here. Besides, SA2's hunting stages got way more complex and fucking HUEG in later stages. Having only three levels of detection made finding all three treasure pieces more about luck than skill. (Or, if you're autistic enough to speedrun SA2, memorization of all the possible treasure piece location combinations. Then, sure, yeah, it's trivial. But most people don't have that level of autism.)

To make things even worse, they make you collect treasure pieces IN ORDER, which means that there could literally be a shard right in front of your face but the radar would be flat-lining because that's actually the LAST piece the game wants you to collect. The only thing the SA2 hunting stages improved on was making the collecting point based. Other than that it's an absolute step down in ever regard. You can say something similar about the SA2 shooting stages too, but I've sperged out enough for now.

>Youtuber makes sonic music

>Generations comes out
>Now all mixes are Generation Mixes

>Mania announced
>Now they're Mania mixes

??????????

>>385133404
It's an easy way to get views but some of them do attempt to replicate the style that game is going for.

>>385133151
Honestly, I loved the hunting stages, I thgought they were the ones with the most atmosphere

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>>385133404
gotta get that youtuber money

>>385133404
Why make Generations mixes when Mania style mixes are the new hotness right now? There is a difference in how they sound.

Are we going to have online Co-Op mode so we can rage at our friends?

>>385133151
as you said, the solution for the too easy stages which are not a terrible problem in sonic games because they where piss easy after mastering them was making them bigger. The level of finesse don't even matter that much, the problem is that the radar goes in order and this play against making the stages fuckhuge, because now the player has to traverse them if he's unlucky more than three times. It makes it impossible to actually master them and makes them a slog, which goes against everything a sonic game should be

>>385133563
Yeah there's gonna be online Competition.

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>>385133563
The store page on Steam doesn't mention online at all, only local.

>>385133015
The Pre-Order trailer nearly got to me, so I'm expecting a similar result after finishing it as well.

>>385133517
tell that to the remixers

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>>385114017
Dare I say LOL?

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>>385133151
Adventure 2's treasure stages are beyond fucked. There's no point in making a big area to explore when your pigeon holed into collecting one emerald piece at a time. It's the worst excuse for padding ever in a Sonic game. They took something that was actually fun in SA1 and made it complete shit

>>385133841
>Penders Sonic is on track to becoming a low key Twitter meme
Nice

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>>385133841

>>385133841
>that Flickies Island render parody
I love this image and everything about it.

Reminder 3d blast is a 7-8/10

>>385133878
But the hint system was actually good, and better than "GO THIS WAY" casual bullshit that was in SA1. You're supposed to be able to find them on a minimal amount of hints.

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>talking to brother about Sonic. And how there is going to be a new classic style game that people are excited for.

>Bring it up again weeks later because it's something I'm looking forward to.

"why are you obsessed with Sonic? Are you a furry?!

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Here's your sonic for tonight

>>385134176
I wouldn't need a hint system if the radar wasn't so awful

>>385134071
The music is good, but the actual game feels more like busywork then most other Sonic games. Finding those damn flickes can be annoying, and it's double annoying if you get hit and they fly everywhere.
Genesis OST = Saturn OST

>>385134234
So are you?

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>>385133878
I don't know how they took a good concept and completely fucked it over. There's no way that was done by accident.

It's a shame because some of the levels aren't awful ideas, but they're just executed poorly and the emerald collecting system in that game is fucked.

>>385134176
Hint system is both good and bad, IMO. It's a nice idea in concept but it basically requires you to know the entire level, so if you don't know where something is you spend the entire level kind of wandering around looking for certain areas. It's not that bad, though.

Fuck the messages in one of the space levels that was just straight up reversed though. I get that it's trying to fool you because it's late in the game and stuff but man was it annoying.

>>385134234
Time to yiff your brother in thanks, m8

>>385134309
I really enjoy the gameplay of hunting the flickies, it's super chill and relax a fun game to take it slow between other sonic games toobieh

>>385134469
The music REALLY helps in making it not feel like a slog.

>>385134286
But then you're not playing treasure hunt. You're playing the follow the light mini-game, which is barely a game. Knuckles stages being good because you can finish them super fast just means you hate treasure hunting and would rather skip them over.

But yeah, the radar is trash. Very trash.

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>>385127498
I knew of it and I'm making note of it for my indie game

>>385134590
At least it forces you to really get to know the levels, which have great atmospheres

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>>385134346
>but it basically requires you to know the entire level,
How is this a bad thing? You should know the whole level if you want an A-rank. If the radar wasn't stuck on one emerald at a time on top of it, being lost wouldn't be as much an issue.

>>385134673
You doing another Sonic fan game? Any details?

>>385134590
if they wanted to use well the hint system they should have just gave you the hints at the start instead of the radar.
The problem is again having to scour the level several times even when you finally know it like your pockets because the game doesn't let you optimize your path

>>385134875
They should give you the first hint free.

The third hint was always too explicit. It's kinda like Layton.

>>385134823
Fair point. I mostly just mean for a casual playthrough, going back to the game after some time makes the emerald levels take forever because you don't really remember every single setpiece in most of the levels. Though only Death Chamber and Meteor Herd are really bad at this. Aquatic Mine is sort of bad but not really.

>>385134961
Aquatic mine should always be started by setting the water level to 3 so the whole place can be quickly accessed except for that one corridor where nothing ever spawns anyways.

Meteor Herd is hell though. All that going up and down fucking sucks.

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Will this game have a Tornado intro like Sonic 3?

Even when you know the stages inside and out collecting the pieces is a hassle in the later levels. I'd much rather do one clean sweep than having to go back and forth three times. Sonic Team must of been really nervous about the Knuckles levels being too short.

>>385135401
No, it'll have an animated intro like CD.

>>385135578
Sonic Team are always scared that their games are too short, which is why there's so much padding. Unleashed with the medal collecting and Werehog acts, Colors having 5 act zones where most of the acts are barely 2 min long with light platforming and lots of level chunk recycling, Generations with the missions you needed to do to get the keys for the major bosses, Lost World with it's animal freeing quota to unlock certain new acts. Modern Sonic and padding go hand-in-hand.

>>385135865
Colors and Generations padding wasn't that bad because at least you're still playing the core gameplay. Probably not a coincidence they're also two of the most well regarded 3D Sonic games.

The Adventure to 06 era honestly had worse padding. Multiple playstyles, forcing you to play every team in Heroes, forcing you to go through the entire game 10 times for the endings in Shadow instead of just letting you choose the last stage of each route again.

>>385136309
Ow the Edge probably has the worst amount of padding a "Sonic" game has ever had. They're just afraid of the games being short. This is probably why Iizuka was not feeling good about Mania cause it's a classic Sonic game through and through that'll most likely be finishable in a couple hours or so with more time later spent in getting all the emeralds and such like normal.

>>385134309
>but the actual game feels more like busywork then most other Sonic games
I can understand this viewpoint. 3D Blast isn't really designed as a "get from A to B as fast as possible" kind of game, but rather one where exploration is at the forefront, making it notably slower paced than most other Sonic games.

I was never a fan of 3D Blast growing up, but I replayed it recently with the mentality that it wasn't designed to be like a typical Sonic sidescroller but rather its own thing and ended up having a lot of fun with it. It's a decent isometric platformer that just happens to have Sonic paint spilled on top of it.

Although if I had to change one thing about the game I would get rid of forcing the player to recollect their Flickies whenever Sonic gets hit. That shit becomes really annoying in later levels.

>>385136598
Well he has the sense to price the game cheaper than Forces, the bigger game.

Mania will be recieved just fine. Probably moreso than Forces due to the nostalgiabait

>>385136692
You're talking about Volcano Valley aren't you

>>385134176
You basically need to know the level inside and out to even understand most of the hints, and at that point, you've likely found the emerald pieces and know of their usual spots already, eliminating the need for the hints besides just checking the first one to tip you off for which emerald spawn point to go to. It's almost useless on a first playthrough and just kills the pacing of the game, especially since it's interrupting Sonic levels instead of being its own contained story.

>>385136784
Well Mania is the game a lot of people were hoping Sega would make some day, even if technically Sega isn't making it.

>>385135812
I thought that was just the opening before the title screen.

>>385136887
Yep, also Gene Gadget at times.

>>385134071
Nah

>>385137106
t. sonic 3 and knux toddler

>>385136784
>Probably moreso than Forces due to the nostalgiabait
>implying it won't be received better largely because it's a better game in general