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Tell me /v/, how does this make you feel?
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Hungry.
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>>385108181
Like an old relic that can't keep up with the times and should just roll over and die.
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>>385108181
>Never seeing jetmoto again from old fag days

Just awful OP, although I'm glad tekken is still here.
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PS1 had games
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Disgust is pretty accurate , I hate remasters and the brain dead shitskins who buy them

Tekken 7 is nice though it's a sequel.
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>>385108274
do it pussy
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>>385108181
something's very wrong with PaRappa on the PS4 case but i can't put my finger on it
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>>385108181
Pretty bad.

It shows how much the industry has stagnated and how little gameplay concepts from the 90's has changed except for quality of life refinements.

When I was a kid in 1997 playing these games I expected the industry to stay innovative over the years and keep introducing more and more different and unique gameplay concepts.

Now we live in a sort of dystopian timeline where videogames never got past that point and only rendering techniques and engine tools got better while the gameplay has no innovation. Even the "Indie scene" has stagnated on the gameplay side. It's usually just having an unique aesthetic or story that lets them stand out. At best they copy a basic gameplay set and change 1 fundamental thing on which the entire game revolves around. Still no true innovation.

I thought VR might give developers an incentive to "start anew" and create genuinely new gameplay experiences. But that hasn't occurred yet and I don't expect it to really change within the decade.

RIP.
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I'm glad this doesn't represent the whole of gaming industry. Been having as much fun with games as I had been 2 decades ago.
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>>385108181

RE1 came out in 1996 you fucking retard.
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>>385108181
>crash remake
crap
>parappa
always crap
>tekkens
ok
>RE
whole series is crap
>racing and sports games
same old same old. literally the same games every time, but with slightly newer graphics each iteration.
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>>385108639
It's not just video games. Movies, music and books have fallen down the same hole. It's like the world died at some point and we became vultures feeding on its corpse.
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Feels fine to me. Good games being made into a series just makes sense, and there's still plenty of new IPs as well as smaller studios making amazing games every year. 2017 has been the best year in a while for games, and I'm spoiled for choice when looking for something to play.
Stop being so fucking jaded and play some fucking video games you brainless retards.
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>proof that sony are the kings of rehashing
>Sonyfags still claim the opposite
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>>385108639
>one anon cherrypicks a handful of remasters and sequels
>"ALL GAMES ARE UNORIGINAL AND VIDYA IS DEAD"
you're gay
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>>385108181
gran turismo sucks dick so really nothing lost there.
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Don't really care too much. I started gaming in 2005 with the ds then moved to consoles when I was able to afford them. I wouldn't dare to play any 5th gen game but I'm having fun playing 6th gen and 7th gen games are missed growing up this summer. Currently play the tak games and mark of kri on a ps2 I bought from the thift store for $30.
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>>385108181
it's weird that everyone has a ps4 but still agrees it's not a very good console. I probably will buy one eventually though because my friends have one
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>>385108881
Good point, here you go
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>>385109018
A pox on every house. Sony makes incestuous remasters to sell as full games, Nintendo coasts on 30 year old momentum, the best games on the Xbox One are a fucking compilation of N64 games and a compilation of Xbox games, and the fastest growing Steam competitor is the one that deals almost exclusively in DOS/WIN95 games
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Old
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>>385109212

Much better.
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>>385109235
I think sony's major issue is not having a mascot that they don't kill off at the end of every new generation. Nintendo rides Mario because it's their mascot, of course everything is going to have "Mario" in the name or feature him. MS might as well drop out by now and just focus on a PC gaming platform, but not something as shit as Uplay or Origin.
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>>385109018
Only 1/2 the PS1 list and 3/8 of the PS4 list are Sony though
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Games peaked that generation so it's par for the course that we cannot do something new
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>>385108959
>>385109040
Spotted the superficial vulture feasting on remasters and scams. Keep damage controlling the fact that nothing is good anymore, little brats.

>>385108952
>>385108639
So much this. Gaming, no, ALL mediums, have become rotting corpses that only get worse every year, and it's all because of brainless normies who willingly buy everything. They are, in the words of the most redpilled among us, "cucked."

I have not bought a single game that was released after 2006, and looking at all the scams that released this year and will come out soon, we should have no further plans to.
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I'm glad tekken is back
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>>385109891
Well said. I swear, /v/ is the only board that listens to us sometimes. They're fuckin' WOKE compared to /a/ and /mu/, it's crazy.

Here's an accompanying pic for the people who don't believe us.
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>>385109891
>nothing is good anymore
Jaded little white boy is mad that companies are making money. There's still plenty of good games, movies, music and TV around. You're just a faggot.
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>>385109040
All games released this year may as well be remasters, redditor.

Enjoy your scraps!

>>385108791
>Been having as much fun with games as I had been 2 decades ago.
If your judgement of gaming nowadays is this sugar-coated then /v/ isn't the place for you.

>>385108959
>2017 has been the best year in a while for games
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAno
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>>385109891

>I bought no games released after 2006

Wow you missed out on some fucking great titles. Sure the golden age of gaming ended around 2006 but there have still been tons of fantastic games released after 2006.

Only just this year did I change my favorite game of all time (which had remained unchanged for about a decade) when I started putting serious hours into Men of War: Assault Squad 2 and all it's mods. That game is literally the GOTYAY and it came out in 2014. But even if you want to go back to the original MoW (2009) it's also fucking great game. The first game in the series Faces of War also only came out in 2006, and which leaves only Soldiers Heroes of WW2 the Prototype of the MoW series as the only game in the series you'd ever be able to play if you are sticking to things before 2006.

If you don't like strategy and tactics games, you are also missing out on other great titles like Stalker, Dead Space, Hard Reset, Soulsborne games and countless other hidden gems. Just stay away from most mainstream shit basically.

>>385110172

>that listens to us

Who is "us" faggot?
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>>385108181
Feels good that good games still exist in this vast sea of piss and shit.
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>>385110648
The Reddit cringe attitude you exhibit would be much more welcome in board with worse taste than us, like /a/ or /co/, who lovingly eat up all the new crap they see. You're a sickening testament of the brave new world we live in.
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>>385110674
>He thinks 2017 hasn't been great
Go drink some more lead paint.
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>>385108335
>hates remasters
>likes a fighting game sequel
fighting game sequels are fucking dumb. What more can you do to a formula that reached its peak in the arcades?
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>>385109178
>Started playing games with the DS
>DS

Underage deteced
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>>385110905
I too enjoy mediocre 'remasters' and more mediocre 'remasters'
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God I miss PS1 era.

I loved the games from that time and I loved the visuals with the shitty poly counts and pixel-y textures. It was such a grand time and my life wasn't in tatters back then.
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When will /v/ realize that kids play video games too? Those remasters where NOT made for you people who already played those games. They're meant for KIDS, yes KIDS. There are constantly new ones popping out who've never played these games in their life
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>>385111020
>implying kids will play any of these
are any of those Minecraft or on a phone?
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>>385111020
were*
woops
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>>385108639
Literally the same thing that happened to cinema. Just rehashing the same shit because too afraid to try new things incase they lose shekels.
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>>385110858
And you're a testament to the manchildren who can't accept that the world is still moving on without them. There's plenty of amazing titles that have come out in recent years. The fact that you can't accept that tells me everything I need to know about you.
You're a faggot
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>>385110674
We're receiving far more bad games nowadays alongside far more good games. The quantity has just become far too much for you to handle. I'm sorry you're too stupid to ignore the shit and appreciate the gold you fucking retard. Kill yourself.
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>>385108181
>Micro Machines
Micro Maniacs was better sorry.
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>>385111138
>There's plenty of amazing titles that have come out in recent years.
such as...

...

...

uh

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>>385109891
I pity you, as you must have not played and enjoyed a single game for the past 11 years.
This leads to my question why are you still here on this board, spewing your vitriol and hatred?
Why not just do it and kys and end your downward spiral?

Shit games have existed since the 70s and have always made up the majority of the market. It's the occassional gems that shine through and become classics.
This goes for ALL of media.
The 80s had tens of thousands of shit songs, but we only come back and listen to the couple hundred that were actually worth a damn.
Same goes for movies - thousands of them get released each year, only a handful will be cherished and rewatched for the next decades to come.
Tens of thousands of books get released each year by all kinds of degrees of talented (or lack of) writers. Very few are even worth their weight in salt.

Nothing has changed. It is YOU who has changed and became bitter and grumpy like an old, dying man.
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>>385108959
this
stop fucking buying AAA western shit. or at least most of it, because even in this day and age they>>385108959
can crank out good shit like rainbow six siege.
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>>385108181
THERE'S A NEW MICRO MACHINES GAME?
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>>385110993
if an 8 year old started playing pokemon diamond at launch he would be old enough to post anon
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>>385108952
>>385108639
>>385109891
while there is a certain amount of sameyness in all industries you have to consider that there is only that many ways of approaching a creative problem. Gameplay concepts are finite, environment themes are finite, story concepts are finite. The problem, is even worse when you consider that the actually fun and engaging concepts are even less.
BTW, this was also 100% true even during the 16-bit era.

Naturally you don't care, you are just a TORtanic faggot
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>>385108639
We are in a period of cultural, economic, and social stagnation alike that to the Soviet Union in the 80's.
It only a matter of time.
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>New Hotshots and Micro Machines
I'm enjoying this, you guys just hate fun
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I used to chew on micromachines a lot. And not even really young up until my mid teens.

Hotwheels too. And legos.
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ITT: a bunch of at most 19 year olds acting like jaded old farts yelling at clouds
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>>385112034
>BTW, this was also 100% true even during the 16-bit era.
20 years
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>>385110909
graphics, animations, add extra features like slow motion to make things nicer to spectate. simple really.
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>>385108181
Reminds me of how Sony has been milking the same franchises for over 20 years.
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>>385112475
You mean nintendo?
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>>385112467
>add a bunch of fluff
yeah really improves the game
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>>385112536
Retard.
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>>385108181
>Cash cows keep being remade so that other games can flourish.
Understanding
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>>385110674
>If your judgement of gaming nowadays is this sugar-coated then /v/ isn't the place for you.
What the fuck did you just say you little piece of shit redditor? What do you think you are, you fucking useless "redpilled" waste of oxygen neet that pretends to policy what other enjoy on a fucking chinese imageboard with your immature intellectualism worth half a damn? I can smell your sonic-OC tier edgelord feelings about the decay of western society through the fucking screen. Worse than unironic weebs idealizing japan when watching shitty slice of life anime.
I would suggest to worthless bitter shits like you to suicide, but maybe it's just better to leave you to your autistic ramblings on 4chan. Enjoying remaining a useless faggot that cannot do anything anymore while others have fun
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>>385111768

2006:
Dark Messiah
Destroy All Humans 2
Lego Star Wars 2
Company of Heroes
Faces of War
Red Orchestra 1
Flatout 2
HL2 ep 1
FEAR Extraction Point
Gears of War 1
Hitman Blood Money

2007:
Stalker SoC
Mass Effect
God of War 2
HL2 Ep 2
COD4
MOH Airborne
Portal 1
Bioshock 1
Europa Universalis 3

2008:
Dead Space
BF Bad Company
COD World at War
BIA Hells Highway
Mirror's Edge
Gears of War 2

2009:
Demon's Souls
Men of War
Ratchet & Clank: A Crack in Time
Dragon Age Origins
Killing Floor
Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood
Darkest of Days
Zeno Clash

2010:
Bioshock 2
God of War 3
Cod Blops 1
BF Bad Company 2
Metro 2033
RDR

2011:
Red Orchestra 2
Portal 2
Lego Star Wars 3
Dues Ex Human Revolution
Magicka
Atelier Totori
Men of War: Assault Squad 1
Dark Souls

2012:
Hard Reset
Blops 2
Spec Ops the Line
Natural Selection 2
Dead or Alive 5
Hotline Miami
Max Payne 3

There are literally to many fucking games to list so just gonna list top games for each year from now on.

2013:
Rising Storm

2014:
Men of War Assault Squad 2

Then there is Alien Isolation, Doom 2016, Dark Souls 3, Bloodborne, Doom 2016, Wolfenstien TNO, Shadow Warrior remake, Call to Arms, Total War: Warhammer, Besieged. There is tons of great stuff coming out anon.
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Why are there so many people on /v/ that don't enjoy games. Leave, you aren't going to affect and change the fucking game industry from /v/ of all places.
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>>385108181
It's no different from the movie industry where they are constantly churning out sequels and remakes.
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>>385108952
I dunno dude, I'm playing Splatoon at the moment and it's feeling pretty fucking fresh. Fair general point, though. We're at a point that 'When I saw a thing I remembered I CLAPPED!' is becoming the norm for entertainment and it's a little bit sickening.
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>>385112793
is this bait? I mean you even repeated the same game and put down cod
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>>385113145

>there are no good games released after 2006!
>I dare you to name some
>*shit tons gets named*
>Uh is this bait? One of the hundred or so games you named that I have never played is called Call of Duty.
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>A successful thing gets made
>Decades later remake/reboot it
>"HEY WOW I REMEMBER LIKING THAT"
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

It's sad, but you have to remember that ultimately video game companies like these are thinking like a business not creatives. Whatever sells is what they'll do even if it's shit, and even back then they were just trying to do what made money. Like how there were a million 3D platformers because Mario was a hit.
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>>385108639
You're telling me that RE7 is a rehash of 1?
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>>385113249
I'm not the guy who said there's no good games after 06 tho. I mean, you did post a lot of crap
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>>385112763
>pretends to policy what other enjoy
Soooooo fucking mad.I'm not the one you replied to, but i think i generally agree with him.Society is dying, but this realization isn't jaded, and full of doom.It isn't for me anyway.Our world needs to be saved.
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>>385113310

>it's crap because I have bad taste

None of those games are crap anon.
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>>385112793
>Blops 2
>Spec Ops the Line
kek
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>>385112612
you just said its been perfected in the arcades, so obviously its fluff retard
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>>385112467
How the fuck is that different from a remaster?
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>>385112467
So things they could add to remasters? Found the retarded shitskin.
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>>385113376
>Sooooo
>my life is now full of doom...
>I'll reform society....with the blood of the people who laughed at me
>I am the sharpest of blades
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>>385113482

Blops 2 is unironically great though.

There is nothing wrong with Spec Ops unless you went in expecting muh deep story adn got butturt over a loading screen.
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>>385113289
>A successful thing gets made
>Decades later remake/reboot it
>"HEY, I NEVER PLAYED THE ORIGINAL BECAUSE IT'S OLD, BUT I CAN PLAY THIS AND TELL PEOPLE I'VE PLAYED THE CLASSIC GAME"
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>>385113398
>lists cowadoody, nuShadow Warrior, atelier, human revolution, magicka, gow, alien isolation and metro
>no bad games
um

also by besieged I assume you mean besiege, which is a EA game that has like 2 hours worth of content
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>>385113646

>hating all those games

Yeah okay you just have shit taste, go kys.

How can anyone actually hate on Magicka though, that wasn't even big enough to get noticed here and be shitposted and memed about. You truly are a shit taste retard anon to hate such a small and charming fun game.
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>>385113297
No. You missed the point of my post.

I wasn't even talking about those specific games. But a more general comment about the game industry and how it stopped innovating. RE7 while different from previous Resident Evils is still a gameplay concept and execution that has been done since the 90s. First person horror games aren't a revolution.

Basically me and most of /v/ are so familiar with games and their inner workings. That we just have to see 20 seconds of game footage and we can guess how the entire game is going to be like without having to play it. Because it's all so repetitive. Again games only differentiate from each other by their aesthetics, story and slight changes/refinement of gameplay. Not actual new gameplay concepts anymore.

Thus the reason most of /v/ oldfags are jaded. A lot of people say "you just grew up" but that's not the case. The industry stagnated and we have played too many games and can predict the entire game.
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>>385113646
>human revolution, magicka, gow, alien isolation and metro
Human revolution was great. Magicka has very good innovative combat and the only reason you hate it is because they put reddit memes into it. GoW is great. Alien: Isolation is good. Metro is great.
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>>385113549
>>385113541
yeah remaster the same game 4 times, or just slap a number on it, whats the difference
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>>385113624
Either way same result.
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>>385108952
New things are only new to new people and how many new people have cropped up in 20 years. What's scary is that there are more new new ppl to popularize shit than there was back when we were popularizing shit in 97. The cycles are always going to minor generations, since young unjaded, not yet cynical ppl seeking new (to them) content. Why wouldnt ppl sell them old stories with a shiny new features on them
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>>385113771
it's a terrible game. nice shit taste, underage
played like 4 hours of that garbage and dropped it
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>>385113646
you just don't like videogames anon, also you said stalker is shit earlier
sage, (You) can stop posting anytime and never respond to that anon or anyone here ever again
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>>385113825
bait
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>>385113918
mirror, not minor
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>>385113983
I do like video games, good ones
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What was the last "I've never seen anything like this before" game?

Like Super Mario Bros, or Doom, or Grand Theft Auto 3, the game that came along and just redefined everything around it forever.

I can't even remember.
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>>385113919

What a fucking waste of taste. Magicka was fucking great. I played through the whole game and expansions with my brother, had a shitton of fun. The only bad thing was the very last DLC that appealed to the ASSFAGGOTs crowd but you can just ignore that one easily.
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>>385113809
>Basically me and most of /v/
you are not /v/ faggot, kill yourself and stop speaking for others
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>>385114167
ok we already established you have bad taste
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>>385108639
Professor Layton, Monster Hunter, Metroid Prime, No More Heroes, TWEWY, Splatoon, Little Big Planet, Zelda BotW, Smash Bros (after 64), Burnout, Bayonetta, Ace Combat, Pikmin and many others came after those and are really unique games. Im only waiting for the next thing the creators of Okami, Sin and Punishment and Vanquish are going to show
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>>385113825
>Human revolution
Still not a new concept just another immersive sim
>Magicka
This is the cliche indie game where they copy a gameplay set and change 1 fundamental gameplay thing and revolve the entire game around it. Still no true innovation
>GoW
Don't know which one you meant in either case. God of War is just another cuhrayzee. And Gears of War was a chest high wall shooter. While one of the first didn't revolutionize the genre.
>Alien: Isolation
Just another corridor horror game. 90s was full of them on PC
>Metro
This game doesn't even hide the fact that it's just a corridor shooter with cool athmosphere,story and setting. But it's still the same shit packaged differently.
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Reminder that this is only one retarded samefagger just being a hipster and calling everything bad and everyone vultures becuase he wants to feel special
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>>385114165

Men of War, or Faces of War I guess.

I literally can't go back to other RTS's unless the setting is inherrently unrealistic. MoW spoiled me it's so good with the direct control feature.
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>>385114358
lmao, do you think /vr/ is just one guy that keeps talking to himself too?
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>>385114165
>any of those games
>innovative
they just took things other games did and put a new marketing coating onto them. Not redefining in the slightest.
people born after 1980 have shit taste really and enjoy "new" things that the industry shits down their throat like nothing
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>>385114340
>This is the cliche indie game where they copy a gameplay set and change 1 fundamental gameplay thing and revolve the entire game around it. Still no true innovation

Jesus fucking christ. You had to go down to the "it's just X genre but with Y gimmick so it's not truly innovative" argument because you couldn't admit the combat system is innovative as fuck.

Seriously. Show me another game with a combat and spell system like Magicka you fucking faggot.
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>>385114498
You're the kind of faggot who says Edison didn't invent the light bulb and Henry Ford didn't invent the car, you're missing the point entirely because ACKSHUALLY some arcade game nobody played had parallax scrolling two years earlier or some Amiga exclusively released in the suburbs of Manchester had a similar engine
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>>385114404
no but you can go back there anytime
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>>385114329
>Metroid Prime
>original
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>>385114585
>this newfag trying to defend his PS2 """innovations"""
kill yourself faggot
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>>385110993
Not really underage. Never really understood the appeal of videogames until I played my friend's gameboy advance sp in some party. It was the coolest thing I had seen for my age at the time. I was more of a chuck e cheese fag before I got into videogames.
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>Pong
>Original

Haha, no, you fucking newfag underage. Not only was tennis played before Pong, but there were games on screen display systems previous to Pong as well.
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>>385108639
>when I was a kid
>I expected the industry
No you didn't, you were a braindead little shitboy who were just happy to have any videogames to play. Your brain wasn't capable of thinking further than that. By the looks of your post, your brain hasn't developed since.
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>>385108959
Most of the idiots in here prefer to complain all day long than to play games and discuss them. Kinda sad to see this amount in negativity in a daily basis.
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>>385109891
>he hasn't played any Soulsborne or even Nioh, the modern genre that has absolutely redefined videogaming as an entertainment source because of how uniquely amazing they all are
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>>385114329
The quality of those games might be high. It's still the same gameplay loops. You can only play X amount of those types of games before you never want to play them anymore.

Back in the 80s and 90s the amount of different gameplay concepts changed rapidly. From the NES to the SNES made a lot more things possible. Then when 3D became the standard a lot of new gameplay ideas started to form. Then they became the standard and we just repackaged the same game again and again. With different aesthetics, stories and minor gameplay refinements.

>Professor Layton
Visual novel puzzle game. Literally hundreds of them were released before this came out
>Monster Hunter
Also a lot of 90s japanese ps1 games had the same concept. Monster hunter just popularized it due to PSP multiplayer
>Metroid Prime
first person shooter with minor gameplay refinements. It's nothing special. Especially not compared to older 90s first person games which had a lot of backtracking and "metroidvania" like concepts in them already.
>No More Heroes
cuhrayzee
>TWEWY
beat em up with minor gameplay refinement for touch screen
>Splatoon
Third person shooter arena control with minor gameplay refinement being the ink gimmick
>Little Big Planet
Sandbox platformer were people make their own maps were the standard on PC during the 90s
>BoTW
The standard open world game albeit of higher quality than average. Still the same formula
>Smash bros
this is literally one of the 90s games that were innovative and doesn't get made in 2017 anymore. It's just Smash bros 1 repackaged with minor alterations on the gameplay
>Burnout
Raceing combat games were a seperate genre since at least the PS1
>Ace combat
pletora of jet games in the 90s on ps1 and PC
>Pikmin
console RTS with minor gameplay refinement for controllers
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>>385114645
I never played a game like it. Controls may be just shoot things but that's not how you progress in the game. I still have a point, those games are unique and aren't rehashes of others like the 2000+ rehashes of CoD and GTA we got after 2007
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>>385114909
Why are you assuming what I thought at that point?

Remember that I experienced the switch from NES to SNES to PS1/N64. In just a couple of years. To me that "innovation within the industry" became a normal expected pattern that I expected to keep going on forever as a kid. And I assume everyone a little older does as well.

I'm sorry you weren't born during this time and thus never experienced the rapid innovation within the industry.
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>>385110648
>HAHAHA LOOK HOW MUCH I LOVE EATING SHIT U MAD? XDXDXD
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>>385113605
Not but Black ops 2 is one of favorite games of all time. It's my favorite go to shooter and is very polished and fun to play.
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>>385115215
I was always a PC geek and I can sum it up the same way.

If you had a monster PC that had a 486@33mhz with 4MB of RAM, 10 years later the top of the line computers would be 3ghz Pentium 4s, computers that were well over 100x more powerful.

If you had a monster PC that had the latest and greatest Core 2 Quad, 10 years later... is right now. Computers today are what, maybe twice as powerful as that one?
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>>385115215
>the jump to 3D
>innovative
>literally the same gameplay concepts but now in 3D
>0 innovation
>implying that those were the first 3D games
millenials holy shit
>b-but the flagpoles are now star!!! so innovative
kill yourself consoleshitter newfag
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While I personally agree with the sentiment that the game industry is crap. I still think we oldfags should adhere to pic related. And let the kids grow up all on their own.
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>>385115430
Okay this guy is a fucking contrarian retard fishing for (you)s without stating anything
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>>385115391

Good taste. Blops 2 is fucking goat.
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The absolute fucking state of gaming in 2001
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>>385108181
member berries
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Why are people shilling for rehashes so hard anyway? Are you guys just viral marketers? If this shit is so good then why aren't you playing it instead of sperging on /v/?
Really makes you think.
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>>385115496
>Is a contrarian millenials nintentoddlers
>complains about the decays of western society
>talks back to people older to him
if you think that anything after the second generation were anything except rehashes you were clearly a child and have no place in this thread. Fuck off brainded baby
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>>385115036
So, because Devil May Cry exist we cant get any other Hack/Slash game because it will be just a rehash? You see something as new only if it creates a new genre?
What about Scribblenauts?
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>>385115667
>butthurt Ataribaby can't acknowledge his console is just a shitty ripoff of the Magnavox Oddysey
See? I can do this reductionist nonsense too.
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>>385108952
I agree, but how did this happen? I understand that for video games, it's because they got so popular and mainstream, but why movies, music and books? They were popular for a while and still had masterpieces.
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>>385115824
>implying it isn't
>implying yours isn't reductionist nonsense blinded by nostalgia googles
fuck off millenial
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>>385112793
>Bioshock
>Atelier
>Blops
2/10
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>>385115714
No I have never said that games can't be good if they are already made. That was not my point at all.

The point is that you can only play these types of games X amount of time before they go entirely stale. And for most of /v/ this point has been reached on many of the genres. I don't want to play a first person corridor shooter anymore in my fucking life. I don't want to play another fucking open world collectaton game in my life as well. Because they all play the same and I have played them too much in my life.

The entire point was that the game industry doesn't innovate enough anymore. They just keep repackaging the same games. And we are reaching the point where even the average gamer is getting bored and sick of it.
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>>385109040
your*
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>>385115850
My theory is improvements in marketing and psychology. These were obviously always for-profit industries, but profit used to require at least a modicum of creativity and experimentation. Now the gurus understand the masses so well that they can release scientifically-measured tripe over and over for maximum impact.

Look at Marvel, who have apparently perfected a formula that makes it literally impossible for a movie to fail, they press a button and a billion dollars falls out. It's a remarkable achievement in herding humans.
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>>385116046
>And for most of /v/
most of /v/ thinks you are a faggot
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>>385116251
And most of /v/ is underage.

I think there is a big overlap between the two.
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>>385116467
>admits being underage
wew
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>>385116202
I've read somewhere that the quality of the art is determined by its society, which I agree with. Not to say that there weren't bad books, movies etc back then, but the best books, movies and so on of back then are way better than those of now.
I agree about the marking and psychology, the former being way easier now with the existence of internet, but also the popularization of certain things which easily get turned into big, long-running franchises of mediocrity.
>Look at Marvel, who have apparently perfected a formula that makes it literally impossible for a movie to fail, they press a button and a billion dollars falls out. It's a remarkable achievement in herding humans.
I agree, but this would have happened in the last century too, if the technology for making movies was advanced enough, and if there were enough people to stick to it. There are enough people in this day and age because every generation from the 90s to onwards almost completely consists of that kind of people.
It will keep getting worse, I wish somehow all this would crash.
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>>385111078
Accurate.
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>>385108952

>Anime: Eva, an anime from the mid-90's, is still considered the pinnacle of the medium.

>Manga and light novels: Isekai dominates these two spaces and has done so for last several years.

>Vidya: Ubisoft-esque experiences has found its way into the majority of modern titles with few outliers, like Splatoon, being nothing more than a novelty.

>TV: It's become all about streaming platforms' original productions which are given more hype and attention simply because they aren't traditional in their inception.

>Film: Remakes and reboots.

>Books: Audio books have become the norm for illiterate faggots.
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>>385116691
I think it's different.

I see a similar pattern in the West now as Japan has had since the 90s.

Basically within creative mediums people take a lot of inspiration from their personal lives and interests. But the amount of people that will go into these industries increasingly only have the medium itself as an inspiration.

So the Anime released in 2017 are all made by weaboos inspired by 80-90s anime with no new creative inflow.

Same with Hollywood/Music/Games. They are all inspired by the medium itself instead of new creative inflow from outside.

Indies want to make games like the games they played. Shiro wants to make anime/manga like the ones he saw as a kid. Hipster McBeard wants to shoot his experimental movie like the 90s indie films.

How are you going to create the next new thing when you are only inspired by the old established guards?
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>>385108639
well, yeah. Now they know what makes money my dude. Games are made my companies. It's for money.

And as for indie developers; expecting a small dev to make something new and as daunting as a new gameplay is a big undertaking. It can be done, but it would definitely be rare. It's Appearance is what sells a game.
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>>385112882
>be a die hard 911 purist
>IF YOU DONT LIKE MODERN CARS GTFO OF /o/
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>>385117164
I agree, but with the state of today's society, not a lot of people want to be inspired by their personal lives and experiences, or can't find anything to be inspired by.
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>>385117429
Our lives are more and more being defined by the media we're consuming, which is furthering this trend.
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>>385117380
The other reason is that they don't want to take risks either, as you said it prints money so why change with the risk of losing some. It's the same thing with every creative industry when it generates too much money. We proably need some kind of destruction of the medium for it to be revuild and innovate again maybe
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>>385115036
Okay, so this entire thread is stupid, but lok at this:

>You can only play X amount of those types of games before you never want to play them anymore.
This line of thought is so far outside of my understanding that it doesn't even register. If a game is good, than give me a hundred of them. A thousand. I fucking like playing games. Your problem is that you THINK you like games, and are baffled by the people that actually do.
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>>385118034
I agree, we need a crash of some-sort to restart the innovation; its just a matter of when. I just don't know when its going to happen, because now there are so many consumers of said media, they will pretty much always be guaranteed to make a profit
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>>385108181
disappointed that the dream is dead, and angry that a bunch of soulless automatons get paid to rehash shit from 20 years ago.
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I remember a comic where a kid is holding a controller labeled "1995" and he says "Gee, I sure can't wait to play games from 2015" and then a kid is holding a controller labeled "2015" and he says, "Gee, I sure can't wait to play games from 1995"
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>>385108639
20 years ago, you would go out and get a job in video/movies/books/ect because you were a creative person who wanted to do something fun, and maybe create a little bit of 'art'. Now? The industry is filled with suits, investors, public relation manipulators and human resource managers. The horrifying thing is this is true across almost every industry.

50 years ago if you wanted to be the head of an engineering firm, you had to be THE BEST engineer. Now? You need a degree in finance and have to know how to make 'smart' investment moves in order to generate extra revenue. you have to know how to min/max your costs and revenue rather than know how to create things. Bankers and lawyers have replaced the people who actually create things at the top of the corporate hierarchy, middle management has become ridiculously bloated, and too many diversity quota hires fill in the gaps leaving very little space for anyone who actually knows what they are doing. Its not just video games that are suffering... our entire society is stagnating as abunch of soulless number crunchers try to squeeze blood from a stone.
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Pretty good.
A lot of fags here fall for the cult of the new, but there's nothing wrong with getting a nice reprint of an old game.
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>>385108181
GOOD

Let those idiots be milked.
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>>385118876
>The industry is filled with suits, investors, public relation manipulators and human resource managers. The horrifying thing is this is true across almost every industry.
As a graduated guy that has been looking for a job for quite some time now this hits way too hard, this is so fucked up.
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>>385108181
>20 years
1997 to 2017 is 30 years, count it on your fingers you retarded nigger
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>>385108952
ENDLESS TRASH
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>>385118876
As an actual engineer that needs to explain basic concepts like friction on ball bearings to the higher ups at a fucking engineering facility... Yup.
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>>385119437
>1997 + 10 = 2007
>2007 + 10 = 2017
>10 + 10 = 20
>20 = 30
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That's a problem as old as time. Success survives and goes on to be reproduced and imitated, the majority of artists just want to pay the bills.

What I don't think is that it's that terrible of a thing. Let's face it: Hardware that no longer exist and the best graphics 1997 had to offer are substantial hurdles for a modern audience to overcome and those games are too good to be abandoned and forgotten. Those remasters are not for you - and you should not buy them, if you do, you're an idiot - but rather for people who weren't around for when 1997 graphics were good and their gameplay ideas were novel.

Meanwhile, there's still enough innovation once you've dug through the shovelware. Look through all those indie games and startups, some of them are good, they're innovative, and they're surrounded by trash.

And if you that's a new problem, remember the shovelware and bargain bins that used to be. The more things change indeed.
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>>385118876
Oh go fuck yourself, what do you think why the industry crashed in the first place? And do you really think "The BEST engineer" designed the production lines and sold the products to anyone? Sales isn't a new field, it's just a field that's easily forgotten.

If our society is stagnating, it's because it always has.
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>>385108181
RIIIIIIIDGE RACERRRRRRR
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>>385119914
Problem is that it's near impossible for people to find those gems. Steam used to release 5-10 games a day and I could look at every page to see if I'd like it or not. Or if they are interesting in any way.

Now there are hundreds of games released on Steam every day. And they all have trailers/pictures misrepresenting the actual gameplay while the description says almost nothing substantive as well.

I don't have all the time in the world. How do you find those gems?
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>>385120167
>Salesnigger detected
I work for a rather large IT company, and our "salesforce" is a fucking travesty. Our third-line technicians have sold more solutions than those fucknuts.
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>>385110172
>FF7 Remake
>2017
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>>385119437
And then there's this retard
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>>385120298
A mixture of tags (and especially filtering by tags), and the "similar games" feature. The search function is also more potent than it lets on, particulary in browser, adding a - to a tag ID means excluding. Helps A LOT.

The discovery queue is sadly worthless.
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>>385115602
Panel 1 and 2 are realities I absolutely remember.
Fuck middle school jocks. Fuck them for overtaking my hobby and fuck their FIFA, Madden and GTAIII.
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>>385120167
Problem is that it seems like there is a big difference since the internet in how businesses are conducted.

Used to be that you focus on profitability and then slowly scale up.

Nowadays most businesses are completely growth focused while not looking at profitability. They just want to maximize revenue and become big quick. Companies like Amazon, Tesla etc were unprofitable for decade(s) only focusing on growth.

This philosophy extends through creative industries as well. Look at publishers and game developers tailoring games and movies to try and reach the most people as possible even though they might lose money on those products initially. They throw everything at trying to appeal to the masses. Activision,Blizzard,Valve,EA,Ubisoft,Sony all try to do this.

Nintendo is in a unique situation since their games always had the mainstream audience so they never realized this pandering mindset. But now they are slowly changing that. By seeing pokemon GO
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>>385111020
Kids are retards.
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>>385108639
>>385113809
>avatarfagging as wojak
jesus fucking christ
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>>385120910
I don't think you're targeting the right thing here. You're focusing on the internet for some reason, I have no idea. What you're describing is a problem with the stock market, not the internet.

And it's not a new problem either. Let's see. A focus on growth and overproduction, a belief that stocks will continue to grow forever and that will bring wealth in itself, not actual production - this doesn't seem familiar? Ask your great-grandparents if they're still alive, they may remember. That's the lead-up to black tuesday.
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>>385108952
>fucking shit that is Ready Player One.
>>>/tv/85440074
this /tv/ thread about it is making me want to cry. it's so fucking bad. it's literally the epitome of 2010's culture, people who have no idea what they are talking about trying to MEME and be INTERNET LULMEISTERS!!!
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>>385108181
Makes me feel really glad I bought a Nintendo Switch instead
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>>385108181
I don't feel very good about this.
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>>385121197
you cannot criticize the stock market on this site, that makes you a commie
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>>385120721
>>385119560
newfags
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Almost every single one of those has regressed. For the most part
>worse visual design
>worse gameplay
>Bundle or a remake that isn't meeting the most basic modern standards
>Complete overhaul of franchises

I just want sequels to be more of the same. Not the exact same.
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>>385108952
Who is the person speaking in that image? Why did they do that?
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>>385108181
Doesn't make me feel anything. I didn't care for any of those mediocre to average games then and I don't care about them now.

Pic literally related, on a scale of 10 years.
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>>385121545
The irony in this post is of cosmic proportions.
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>>385108590
Microphone is in the wrong hand!!!!!
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>>385108181
Playstation the rehash king
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>>385114165
Splatoon and ARMS are pretty damn unique, even if they borrow a bit from past games like Virtual On.
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>>385117164
So like the current Simpsons situation where all the current writers of The Simpsons are people that grew up watching The Simpsons?
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There's plenty of games that don't rely on remakes and remasters, admittedly there are a large number of those things, but they don't take away from the other games. Remasters are kind of cool in my opinion, you get to replay stuff from your childhood with updated graphics, I don't see what the problem is, unless they were lazy with it. It's not like you have to buy them, there's plenty of other games to choose from. I was a little miffed at first when they were doing it with PS3 games, but I guess it's not a bad thing, because there were a lot of people who didn't own a PS3 and didn't get to play those games last gen.
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>>385108181
MICROMACHINES ARE BACK? SHIT IM HYPE.
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>>385121545
>>385121875 here. Me too.

I struggled to enjoy my PS4 so much and all that is releasing is trash. To break it down properly:
>Crash
Really poor remake, really had no intention of staying true to the original. Feels a lot worse at times. It could have been something really great, but if there was a new game now I wouldn't buy it because of this.
>Parappa
A remake which lacked some of the most basic improvements like resolution.
>Tekken 7
This series became a far cry from what I originally liked. It was wacky but reaosnably cool, now it appears to be really cluttered visually and full of anime girls.
>Resident Evil 7
I actually enjoyed the demo, but it felt like a bait and switch. It turned into a really shit feeling action game and had zero Resident Evil or demo vibes.
>Gran Turismo Sport
I don't know what the point of this is. I've never played a Gran Turismo game multiplayer, let alone online. I can't even imagine there being an appeal for it that much. What I, and I'm sure others, loved about GT was car collecting and the other things that came with it.
>Wipeout
Yet again another rerelease. What's the actual point of it? No significant improvements as far as I know.
>Everybody's Gold and Micromachines
To be honest I have no idea and don't really care. I buy a golf game once every 3 generations or something and I've already got The Golf Club.
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>>385115036
>>TWEWY
>beat em up
This alone shows you are an idiot.
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>>385122019
3 rereleases total once Pokken is out.
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>>385113482
>>385115986
>These Redditors not thinking BLOPS 2 is the a great game
LMAO
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>>385108335
>shitskins
>yet likes fighting games

Fighting games are shitskin territory.
I bet you like dragon ball z, too.
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>>385114796
Basically this entire thread.
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>>385121983
Before he died, a programmer hid an easter egg in a virtual world that is basically the new internet that would give whoever finds it control of everything. Some people start obsessing over that nerd programmer's interests to try and figure out where he would hid it.
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>>385108181
I wasn't even a thought in 1997
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>>385124350
Hold on. Are you describing the plot of some work of fiction? Is the excerpt in that image from a work of fiction and not some guy?
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>>385125253
Correct. A lot of people are posting that work of fiction now that we've gotten a trailer for the movie adaption.
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>>385125253
It's a published, popular work of fiction that's getting an expensive movie adaption. It just had its first trailer released a day or two ago and so everybody's talking about it. I shit you not.
Google 'Ready Player One' and prepare to rip your own eyes out.
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>>385125253
How did you not see this?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=LiK2fhOY0nE
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>>385108181

Like 2017 is the best year for vidya in a decade.
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>>385125575
>>385125550
>>385125504
So it's a movie that has lots of references to other stuff like the two Lego Movies did. I see. Thanks. I actually thought that was some real person interview talking about research for a project he was doing. My mistake.
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>>385111078
Gamestop employee here. This is such a mass misunderstanding on peoples parts these days that it isn't even funny. The majority of people who come in and buy PS4s/Xbox ones in my store are 1 of 3 things.
>Black Adult males usually in sports shirts or team jerseys
>Mothers with their ~15 children who outright buy them M-rated PS4/Xbone games on a near daily basis
>The outcast/weeb weird guy whos obviously there for a japanese release

Kids don't care about nintendo. Nintendo is "the kiddy console" in this generation which means as a kid you're ridiculed for owning one when all the other kids have deadbeat parents who let them play whatever without any supervision. The marketing is literally what our Sega/Nintendo era was. Infact, let me put it this way. LAst friday was the launch of Splat2, and we had a pretty big launch line of 30+ people. If I were to break it down it would be something like:

>30% were adult single males with nintendo centric shirts both black and white.
>40% were couples ranging from highschool age to adults.
>10% were single women in line with 3DSs
>And literally one kid in line with his father.

And most of them werent even there for splatoon, they were there for the fucking Smash amiibos.
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>>385125959
>Like the two Lego Movies did
No. They referenced things. This book is an endless stream of just mentioning pop culture things by design. It's why people are talking about it.
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>>385110172
>trashing Splatoon 2
I'd say "eat shit" but clearly you already do on a regular basis
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>>385126073
>This book is an endless stream of just mentioning pop culture things by design
I don't see the difference. Is it just a matter of degree? Are people talking about it out of excitement or disdain?
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>>385125980
This. Nintendo is a familiar console to people who grew up with it. It pretty much offers nothing exciting to kids growing up in this day and age when Call of duty and doom are the talk of the town
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>>385110172
>Deviantshart simulator
>Implying this is a bad thing

Sonic forces is legit going to be the best sonic game in decades because of this crazy ride.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn6uqp_mr98
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>>385126258
There are pages of the guy literally saying shit like "And then I got out of my Delorian time machine from the Back to the Future trilogy and into my X-Wing from 1977's Star Wars as Qbert from the arcade game Qbert watched at a distance..."
It's not the same as just making a reference to things. And that's why people are speaking of it with disdain.
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>>385110172
>New, original mario game
WAAAH MARIO 06
>Sonic finally getting a graceful sequel
N-Nostalga bait!!
>Splatoon gets a sequel
Shovelware!!
>Original fighter by nintendo
Shovellllware!!!!!

I don't know/care enough about the others to call you out on how fucking stupid you are, but I'm sure another anon can call you out on that. You people can't be fucking pleased
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>>385108181
Having to pull those games/remasters from the edges of the modern shooters 'n sandboxes era (movies in PS4's case) and comparing them to PS1's era isn't a very nice thing to do, anon.

>>385108639
Also this to an extent, Shekelsteins have found what mass-appeal genres work the best and are gonna hammer them until either diminishing returns form during the convenience of a new now-available form of entertainment allowing easy new innovation to "spark", or their master plan to reduce America/Europe to a middle-eastern wasteland or Israel-controlled Communist state succeeds. Whichever's first.
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>Keeping old games when new ones exist

I just sold my whole collection for 3 grand. Eat shit nerds.
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>>385112904
fuck off canceroid
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>>385111020
You're retarded if you really think a kid would be hyped for "kidz gamez", if they don't just play mobile shit or Minecraft all they want is mature games for mature gamers like COD and GTA.

And the Youtube gaymen scene is dead nowadays so they won't even want to touch M-rated singleplayer games like RE7.
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>385110172
Doesn't even deserve a (You)
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>>385127029
>>385110172
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>>385126418
>>385110172
mario 2## you faggots mean


>>385126253
kys
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>>385114498
So you're like 40yo now?
Don't you have a middle-life crisis to bust your family's balls with?
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>>385114165
Superhot
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>>385113297
to be fair they did say RE7 was going back to the series roots
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>>385118593

>then a kid is holding a controller labeled "2015" and he says, "Gee, I sure can't wait to play games from 1995"

This is exactly me today, honestly. I've been playing old games ever since 2006. I could count on one hand the number of post-06 games that I've got and play regularly. Everything else I play is essentially from 06 or earlier.

Hell, just yesterday I started a playthrough of an old PS1 hockey game where I'm leading the inagural Thrashers roster to the Stanley Cup, having a blast trying to outscore a more established team with the game going back and forth, back and forth. The day before that, I finished Nwabudike Morgan's cornering of Chiron's energy market. The day before that, I played Empires: Dawn of the Modern World and had an epic river battle.

On and on it goes.

I don't need modern vidya because none of it interests me whatsoever.

>>385116046

>The entire point was that the game industry doesn't innovate enough anymore. They just keep repackaging the same games. And we are reaching the point where even the average gamer is getting bored and sick of it.

This is exactly why too. Nothing today seems unique. Nothing seems targeted at someone like me. If there is anything, it'll require me to shell out top dollar for a new console (I'm primarily a PC guy but I don't mind consoles) and I refuse to do that when it'll gather dust otherwise.

So I stick with the games I already own. I'm fine playing SMAC into the wee hours of the morning on days off. I'm fine playing EDotMW and having epic battles. I'm fine playing old school hockey games where the focus was the gameplay not some HUT shit. I'm fine with what I already own.

I'm the same with movies, music, etc.

I have not watched a single movie in YEARS. I have YouTube for that, not to mention my own collection.

I do not listen to today's music. I listen to my own collection.

I do not read today's books. I read my own. I'm even writing one too.

(Cont...)
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>>385128162
Learn to fucking paragraph holy shit.
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>>385128162

This isn't me going "LOL LE WRONG GENERATION" or anything like that. I just feel more happy and content doing this then I would be trying to get into what's popular today.

I'm clearly not in the target audience, so why bother with any of it?

I don't buy it, I don't pirate it, I just leave it all to those who enjoy it and enjoy what I enjoy and that's it.

When you can get better shit from rando YouTube channels than Hollyweird et al, who the fuck needs any of it?

Not me, I say.

Of course, your mileage may vary.
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>>385108181
wow there sure are a lot of people on /v/ who dream of being armchair analysts without any qualifications or understanding of anything.
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>>385128305

Sorry, anon. It was just a stream of consciousness thing. I just let go and ran with it.
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you are all just old, thats all
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>>385110909
Ending the story that was started on the PS1
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>>385128432
This. You can enjoy things from older and newer generations if you aren't a jaded analytical and critical faggot about it. I love SNES and Gamecube more than any console, doesn't mean I vehemently despise my PS4 just because its new. Its got great shit that I've come to enjoy and easily some of my Top 10's now.
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>>385109891
Consume indie content then!
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Feels like the video game industry is back on track after a decade or more of microsoft fucking it up and funding the scummiest game journos to help embrace, extend, extinguish gaming
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>>385128701
Read the rest of the thread for a glimpse of why you are wrong.
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>>385128556

That's true. I've managed to find a bit of things I enjoy from newer generations.

Sometimes it can even be all the more sweeter when you find something really good to enjoy after a long time of finding jack shit to.
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>>385128745
Gaming seems to be back on track.

Splatoon is as good of an IP as anything Nintendo made in the GameCube era.
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>>385128915
This is one of the most retared posts i have ever seen
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>>385129059
What made something like Custom Robo better than Splatoon?
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>>385129256
Splatoon is gay.
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>>385128745
some of you being stupid enough to eat up microsoft propaganda doesnt make it true
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>>385108181
sorry for you or who ever made that image. like you had to spend time cherry picking for games released 10 years ago to find remasters/sequels/reboots of today, in a market that is mostly hungry for those things, thinking you're proving some kind of point or being clever when in fact, you're just another shit poster in a sea of shit posts.
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>>385128915
>Gaming seems to be back on track.
Based on what ?
>Splatoon is as good of an IP as anything Nintendo made in the GameCube era.
Again based on what ?
>as anything Nintendo made in the GameCube era
LIKE WHAT ?
See, the problem here is you think "the gaming" = nintendo
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>>385129406
>Splatoon is gay

So you're not even going to offer your reasons and instead just insult something you don't even like? Why the hell am I even bothering with you then?
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>>385109891
I watch DHS cases all day, so neglect/rape/abuse, and yet the most dramatic rhetoric is always some dude on /v/ bemoaning the "death" of vidya. Jesus people, take a step back and tone down the drama-you look silly.
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>>385129650
Are you retarded? I'm not the original guy. Fuck you're dumb.
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>>385129059
Not him but you're the only retard here. Splatoon has the fidelity and power of a gamecube title with some polish. If Nintendo wanted to it could have easily come out shortly after Sunshine and competed with Halo if nintendo actually put online into play that early, But they didn't and it was a missed oppertunity.
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>>385108181
considering the only game i really care about on that list is wipeout, and how both of the games on that list play completely differently, not much
>>385108275
this
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>>385129803
>If Nintendo wanted to it could have easily come out shortly after Sunshine and competed with Halo
Who's the retard again ?
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>>385108952
>>385108639
It's because of corruption inherent to the system.
The innovation america was experiencing all throughout the 20th century was no accident. It happened because it was allowed to happen.
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>>385129898
You for having such a closed mind.

>Online shooters become a big thing in gen 6
>Nintendo rivals with their own shooter thats slightly different and more kid friendly
>Makes two healthy options that have fierce competition
>Sony dies out and fades into obscurity because of it

The only reason Halo exploded the way it did was because it went completely unrivaled for years.
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>WAHHHHHH REMASTERS AND REMAKES ARE BADDDDDD
>why?
>BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT 20 GPS 16 POLY PS1 GRAPHIC GARBAGE ANYMORE!!! BECAUSE EVERYONE WHO PLAYS THEM IS A CASUAL!!!!!!! WAHHHHHHHHH
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>>385129898
It could have competed with Halo, yes.
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>>385126253
>Splatoon 2
>Good
>B-because it's NINTENDO! FUCK YOU!

ftfy
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I'll never get why people hate remasters. I'm always excited for them when they come out because they're normally games I love and i'd love to see upgraded and fixed. Sly 2 is like my favorite game of all time, so the Sly collection was a must buy for me.
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>>385130058
>>385130145
Wow you're fucking delusional
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>>385130405
>It could have competed
>NUH UH A KIDDY GAME LIKE THAT WOULD NEVER WIN HAHAHAHAHAHA

Do you even fathom what the word "Compete' means? It vies for the same type of market, not saying it would blow Halo out of the water in sales. Jesus. learn to read.
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>>385110172
How was gaming in the past any better?
>6 Mega Man rehash games on the NES
>PlayStation 1 and 2 were loaded with shovelware due to cheap costs for productuon
>Sonic Adventure era introduced the DeviantArt concepts.
>Several franchises brought back and butchered in the 6th gen like Final Fight Streetwise
>.Hack Games were all the rage on the PS2

HOW HAVE THINGS CHANGED?
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>>385108181

I feel empty with so many sequels, prequels, remasters, HD remasters... it's boring.
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>>385130608
This. Mega man has always been worse than mario in the 'rehash" department. Its the epitome of rehash. Sure, inventive games like X, ZX, Zero and Network exist, but then capcom turns those into near anual series' as well with 10+ installents
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>>385130291

Why do you have two copies of Innocent Sin and two copies of Eternal Punishment?
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>>385130058
First person shooters have always been a big thing you cherry picking faggot.
>Doom
>Quake
>Counter Strike
>Unreal
>Half Life
>Team Fortress
>Goldeneye/Perfect Dark/Timesplitters
>Ghost Recon/Rainbow Six
>Halo
>Call of Duty
>Battlefield

And now we're entering the age of Overwatch. There has been a monster shooter for every generation since Doom became a thing.
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>>385130058
>The only reason Halo exploded the way it did was because it went completely unrivaled for years.

Just because Halo was your first shooter doesn't mean it was everyone else's you fucking child
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>>385130840
Don't forget Duck Hunt on the NES.
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>>385130806
Its not, its a 2disc case. All multidisk PS1 cases are like that.
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>>385130553
>>NUH UH A KIDDY GAME LIKE THAT WOULD NEVER WIN HAHAHAHAHAHA
Nobody talked about a kid game why you feel so insecure ?
Yes i understand what compete means but the thing is who is splatoon aimed towards and who is halo aimed towards, dudebros/mounatin dew vs nintendo fans who would win ?
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>>385130909
>Halo was your first shooter

This is painfully ironic to me because of how wrong you are. My first shooter was 007: Nightfire, if you can even call it that, And I just played Halo and Halo 2 for the first time last month.
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>>385130806
there is just one of each
that's how all psx multi disk cases look iirc
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>>385130998
You seem to be mixing eras and archetypes friend. 2001 archetypes and 2017 archetypes don't inherently mix.

If splatoon came out in say, 2002-2003 shortly after Halo to meet with its demands, it would gain attention by gamecube crowd, not to mention with titles such as Jet set radio being a smash hit a few years prior, the whole Graffiti/Street life theme would explode, as that was super popular in that era. It would have been les Pop idol more Radio station DJ
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>>385130229
More so because it is a new shooter IP that is not an edgy copy/paste.
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>>385130840
I like how if you organize the list based on release date it's just a "less gay to more gay" list too.
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>>385130998
> dudebros/mounatin dew

That was Xbox360 you retard. Dew campaign started with Halo 3 and above. Original Xbox fans weren't sports and dudebros, most of them were Sega migraters because Dreamcast flopped
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>>385131054

Literally no reason to have two copies of the same game.
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>>385130608
Also more
>Nintendo locked content behind handheld game connectivity
>Nintendo was planning on the 64DD being an expansion pack console
>SEGA, Nintendo, Hudson, and Sony all partook in console add-ons being necessary for certain games or features
>Having to buy memory cards
>Nintendo sold small games like Four Swords Adventures and Animal Crossing as full games
>Nintendo E-reader
>Sony Eyetoy
>Compilations all over the place in 5th and 6th gen, some outright using licensed versions of MAME
>SCEU dropping games due to not wanting full retail 2D games on their console unless they were a compilation
>Games cost more, especially due to inflation
>Entire games getting canceled during beta stages (meaning they are feature complete) because of costs of distribution, close to cheap now
>Many games were localized poorly or weren't localized due to costs. Now even doujin games can be localized to the west for cheap

>>385130998
That market was created with Halo, it could have even gone with Splatoon had it been released at the same time.
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>>385130084
I know right, who needs new ideas when you can just rehash games from 20 (twenty) years ago?
>>
Like jews took over the industry and all innovation faded into obscurity.
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>>385131519
>Literally no reason to have two copies of the same game.
i.. what? They're not the same game. They're two different games that are 2 discs each.
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>>385110674
>If your judgement of gaming nowadays is this sugar-coated then /v/ isn't the place for you.
So this place is for tryhard contrary bastards who hate fun?
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>>385131563
There are new ideas for games?
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>>385131519
Two different games guy.
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>>385131431
Or edgy mouthbreather to dudebro
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>>385131519
Why did you reply to me?
Did you even read my post?
>>
dude remasters lmaoo

Yeah, Sony's PS4 is fucking up the ass with remaster price gouging. Who knew.
>>
>>385131551
>it could have even gone with Splatoon had it been released at the same time.
Guess what happened, it didn't, halo got popular end of the story
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>>385131764
How is this any different than the compilation games from the past?
>>
>>385131802
>entire conversation chain was based on a hypothetical situation
>BUT IT DIDNT HAPPEN SO THERE

You must be a riot at parties.
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>>385131713

Where are the other copies of Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment that were in your picture?

I seen two copies of Innocent Sin and two copies of Eternal Punishment.
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>>385131728
Well I guess it's not ENTIRELY accurate I was just stating a general trend.
For example, counter-strike is an outlier and was released fairly early and is probably above overwatch in the Gay Department.
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>>385131764
Not like Nintendo is doing anything different.

Let's hope Atari will save us
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>>385115602
Man, they were pretty right until they started handling that corporate nutsack and won't acknowledge any of this shit.
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>>385131764
>dude remasters lmaoo

Playstation 1:
>Castlevania Chronicles - Remastered MSX
>Final Fantasy Anthology - V-VI - SNES
>Final Fantasy Origins - IV/Chrono Trigger - SNES
>Tales of Phantasia - SFC

PSP:
>Star Ocean Second Evolution - PS1
>Dracula X: (Rondo of blood/Symphony) - T16/PS1
>Persona 2: Innocent sin - PS1

PS3:
>Sly Collection
>MGS collection
>DMC collection
>Jak collection
>Ratchet Colelction
>Hitman Colelction
>Ico/SoTC
>ZOE collection

Don't act like this is new.
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>>385132123
Either you're memeing, or your incapable of reading the 3 posts that told you otherwise.
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>>385120746
are you serious?
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>>385108181
add the FF7 remake and your have me experiencing a whole new level of feels
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>>385130229
Nah, fuck off you retarded console warring faggot, I'm more Sonybro than anything
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>>385130806
this is the state of /v/
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>>385132329
>Atari
>Save us.
You don't send a sunken ship to rescue survivors from a sinking one.
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>>385133014
Explains your shit taste in shooters then.
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>>385108881
>>385109212
Parappa also came out in 1996 in Japan.
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I honestly don't see the issue

>DUDE THEY'RE SELLING US REMASTERS

Yeah, and? They're usually $30 max. They're not even half the cost of a normal MSRP PS4 game. Hell Yakuza Kiwami is only 29.99, I expected that to eb at least 40 like 0 since its a brand new engine and everything, but Sega unlike sony, aren't being jews about it.

The problem here is everyone thinks it should be free because they already played it, and well, sorry to say folks, but thats not how the world works. People need money to put effort out, and even HD re-texturing takes time money and resources. Just be thankful they aren't $60+
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>>385132629
>Castlevania Chronicles - Remastered MSX
You mean X68000, a Japan exclusive PC that was expensive as shit.
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>>385108639
The medium is shit, I tell people this constantly. If you want to make real art and so on. Do something else.
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>>385127346
lmao roasted
you sure showed him brah xd
>>
I'm glad /v/ realizes suits are ALWAYS the enemy. IN EVERY ASPECT OF LIFE. No exceptions.
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>>385133961
So indie games and films only?
>>
>>385130291
>Steambot Chronicles

My nigga
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>>385134014
Wrong. Consume no media and spend your life in your life not consuming pop culture.
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>>385108181
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>>385133961
>Am a suit
>Browse /v/

Whoops.
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>>385109891
What drives the "I love video games so much I don't even play them" crowd?
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>>385117380
sauce that image
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>>385128321

cool story you giant fag
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>>385132939
isnt that supposed to be very different in terms of combat?
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>>385116202
everytime now when there is an "original idea" movie people always say "oh it's like x and x, not original!" so I don't fucking blame hollywood for using old IPs. people are fucking retarded.
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>>385113809
>>385108639
im having fun with bloodborne and odis sphere remaster lol stay mad cuck
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>>385115391
>wii u
> nigger
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>>385130806
Fucking underage
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>>385108639
WOW THANKS MAN

YOU REALLY MADE ME THINK AND OPEN MY EYES

like

woah
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>>385110909
>>385112612
>>385113541
Tekken 7 is significantly different from fucking Tekken 2 In fact, Tekken 7 actually changes the base gameplay more than any game since Tekken 4. The only "remaster" was Tekken 5, which was a Tekken 3 remaster essentially, with like two things brought back from 4 and a new mechanic. 6 gets shit for being "5, but with new mechanics people don't like", and Tag 2 is 6 with tagging. In comparison, Tekken 7 redid 6's shitty mechanics, added a few new ones, brought in super moves, and re-did how grab breaks work.
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>>385138016
Shut up nerd
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>>385136564
i would call odin sphere leifdrasir a remake. Has completely different combat system even, you go from a slow paced game where you can bearly even attack or block without wasting meter to full on air combos all over the place.

Anyone using it as an example of a rehash is full of shit, basically.
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