The N64 cannot be emulated! How will Nintendo make a N64 mini?

>>385101342
It is emulated you can play pretty much any n64 game

>>385101342
The same way they did it for Virtual Console on Wii/Wii U

>>385101398

If by emulated you mean a buggy, glitchy, piece of shit, then no.

>>385101472
No, I don't mean that, reddit-spacer. Learn reading comprehension.

>>385101342
If you look at the hardware inside an N64, you'll see there's some open space on the board. They just need to cut those open spaces out and glue the pieces back together, and boom, tiny N64.

>>385101529

But you implied it. dumbfuck

>>385101465

it's gotta be under $80.

>>385101398
Not well. GoldenEye still runs at like 9fps, and tons of other games are nigh unplayable.

I did manage to play through a lot of Banjo-Kazooie though, that ran mostly fine aside from a little extra slowdown here and there.

>>385101643
1964 runs Goldeneye just fine, while injecting keyboard and mouse.

>>385101529
>Reddit-spacer
Do you screech autistically at your 3rd grade teacher when she tells you to double space your 50 word essay so it's easier to read, too?

There is an N64 Virtual Console on the fucking Wii.
Nintendo's figured out how to emulate, so why hasn't anyone else.

>>385101603
>But you implied it
No, I did not. Show evidence of this baseless claim desu.

>>385101726
Because Nintendo have the source code.

>>385101726
Nintendo have the official design specifications for the N64 so they'll have a much easier time creating an N64 emulator.

>>385101840

why not just recreate the hardware instead of making an emulator?

>>385101714
it's the new gbtreddit you newfaggo.

>>385101726
>wow, why hasn't some loser built a Lambo in his shed, it can't be that difficult, after all Lamborghini does it everyday!

>>385101342
Shitposting aside, anyone who actually thinks a company doesn't have the capability emulate their own product has serious brain problems.

>>385101643
GoldenEye ran at 15-16fps on the original hardware even with a completely unlocked FPS. Game and hardware logic is still going to fuck with the emulator and it's not going to prevent drops where the original hardware would have them.

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>>385101472
Most n64 games run at 60fps.
I don't know why you would think otherwise.
It allows for fun mods like paper mario pro.
It's really fun there's new areas, bosses, the overworld is different and really well balanced.
>>385101529
Please don't impersonate me.
>>385101643
You're over exaggerating, there's mods and fixes for most if not all games now. goldeneye runs fine.

>>385102073
>GoldenEye ran at 15-16fps on the original hardware even with a completely unlocked FPS
It's time to stop posting

>>385102001
>>>385101342 (OP)
>Shitposting aside, anyone who actually thinks a company doesn't have the capability emulate their own product has serious brain problems.

Sony isn't able to emulate the ps3. Why doesn't PS4 have any backward compatibility?

>>385102001
It won't happen anyhow unless it has 10 games max, and ones that still control 'good enough' alongside having a stable framerate to not look as aged.

Nevermind that they'll look aged regardless being blurry (thx N64 AA) 320x200 scaled stretched to 1080p anyhow.

>>385102241
Because sonytards prefer re-buying games again. Didn't you get the memo?

It'll only be the playable ones, the ones they've released on VC I would assume since Nintendo is lazy as shit.

It'll probably only have ten games and cost $100.

>>385102241
That's because of hardware issues, backwards compatibility at hardware level is more annoying and expensive than you'd think.
If they had it they'd have the same Xbone price at E3 and it would have flopped.

>>385102241
You mean Sonytards wants backwards compatibility?

>>385102241
because CELL was a shitshow of a pocessor and while powerful, it took programmers years to make proper use of it
Even now, top-end processors at 4,5GHz+ struggle to emulate PS3, so you can't expect an outdated mobile Jaguar @2.1GHz to emulate that retarded architecture, no matter how much you wish for it

>>385101342
They can't.
If Iwata was still alive he could write a cycle perfect n64 emulator that can run on a toaster, in a single afternoon.
But alas.

>>385101342
>>385101472
Where does the "N64 emulators sucks" meme come from? I use Project64 2.2 and everything runs fine.

Probably cheaper for them to essentially engineer a new N64 and make it cartridgeless than to repurpose their shitty WiiU emulator onto some generic Android board.

>>385102737
>Where does the "N64 emulators sucks" meme come from? I use Project64 2.2 and everything runs fine.
Because you are too young to have ever used a real N64 so don't know when it's working properly or not.

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>>385101342
>How will Nintendo make a N64 mini?

Considering a rival company owns the rights to the entire Rare back catalog which makes up at least 70% of the worthwhile games in the N64's library they're fucked before they even get to the emulation issue.

>>385101643
Is this guy being fucking serious? I could emulate Goldeneye near flawlessly on my Galaxy S3

>>385102641
>implying he was any good

If they could have 21 N64 games on the Wii virtual console almost a decade ago, they can have a good number on a N64 mini at a comparable price to the NES and SNES no problem. Why does anybody think this is an issue?

>>385101342
they have the actual N64 specs so they could make a perfect emulator. There's no guesswork needed.

>>385101714
As a matter of fact, I did

>>385102073
>it's not going to prevent drops where the original hardware would have them.
Yes it is.

>>385101972
The original gbtreddit wasn't funny, and this is even more nonsensical

>>385102241
What is architecture.

>>385102641
>implying they didn't trap his soul in one of those bottles full of talismans and now they aren't building a robot to bring him back

Fuck N64 we need a gameboy color mini, with link cable

>>385101643
>GoldenEye still runs at like 9fps
Goldeneye has an average framerate around 20 FPS and this was proven on Digital Foundry. Stop this le unplayable old console FPS xD meme.

>n64
>30 games

nice joke

>>385101342
Are they going to make a mini GameCube?

>>385102737
because they do.

>>385103760
It's not unplayable because of its framerate, its unplayable because its just a shit game and has aged like milk

>>385103760
He's talking about emulation not original hardware. But I wouldn't doubt 4 player GoldenEye on original hardware went down to 9fps

>>385103885
>because its just a shit game and has aged like milk
Let me guess, you found it too hard that the game doesn't have regenerating health or health packs.

>>385102346
>he says while in a thread about rebuying old games

>>385103948
>fallacy
>non-argument
*sigh*

>>385103971
>goldeneye is the gold standard for ALL retro games ever
Bait.

>>385104068
>*sigh*
Hi Dobson

>>385101714
>using double spaces

It that a real thing?

>>385101342
Are there even 30 N64 games with playing? With SNES classic you can argue that they could've used even more games to get all the good stuff in, but what was there on N64?

>>385104267
Not an argument

>>385102737
load paper mario and go to the toad town.

>>385101342
The Wii VC had a better n64 emulator than Project64.

>>385101980
Are you retarded? The OP claimed that a N64 mini can't exist because it has no decent emulator. Nintendo has their own working emulator.

N64 is emulated just fine

people are not going to notice the small inaccuracies, they don't on Project64 & didn't on the Virtual Console

>>385102241
The PS4 is nowhere near powerful enoughto emulate a PS3. A $30 off the shelf ARM chip should have enough for a N64.

>>385104634
Nah, Project64 with the right plugins is more accurate

>>385101950
Savestates

The only n64 game I couldn't complete because of emulation serious problems was mischief makers.

>>385102451
There's already no games on ps4, sonytards are desperate for anything

>>385102241
You cant emulate the powerof the cell

>>385104919
Save states are literally just saved copies of the contents of the RAM, it is technically a possibility on real hardware

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>>385102140

>>385101342
Before they do an N64 Classic, I think they should do a re-release of the NES Classic and an extra-long production of the SNES Classic.

There are still so many people that want those consoles that weren't able to get one, and still won't be able to get one unless they fork out $200+ to scalpers. If Nintendo actually cared about consumers (and sticking it to scalpers), they would do another run of the first two classic consoles before going with the N64

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>>385104568
Now what

>>385104754
>N64 is emulated just fine
If all you play is Mario 64

>>385105098
The only level in the game that genuinely runs like shit.

>>385105318
BTFO
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>>385101342
Nintendo will need to ask Microsoft if they want to make the N64 Classic actually have games

Spencer said he will play ball, but Nintendo are incredibly stubborn, even if Microsoft just asks for a tiny royalty fee of 5%, Nintendo will lose their shit

>>385102737
I think certain games like Gauntlet Legends are fucked up on emulators, but I dunno maybe they fixed them since I last tried.

I'll make the accurate N64 emulator, I'm gonna need eight N64 systems, 3000 paperclips and a hairdryer.

>>385105428
Who gives a fuck about the actual games they put on?

It will be hacked in a week to hold the entire library. Just hope nintendos emulation is good.

>>385101342
Wouldn't they just create a really specific emulator for each game?

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>>385103089
>impying he wasn't

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>>385101342
They'll use leftover iQue Player parts.

>>385104568
STOP
USING
JABO'S
VIDEO
PLUGIN

>>385102737
Literally the Big Bang Theory

Make a Ultimate Gameboy Mini instead

>>385101950
Nintendo is too cheap to manufacture specialized hardware.

>>385106729
Stop getting mad over the techless, the inept. Those doomed to walk the path of low fps and graphical glitches. Barely elevated over consolefags, they suffer in the limbo of mediocrity; accurate emulation forever out of their reach.

>>385101342
You can already emulate some n64 games with the nes classic.

>>385101342

> 30 games

more like 15

>>385106917
If they were going to make specialised hardware it would just be easier to start producing the original N64 chips again.

>>385107249
Forgot the link.
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/02/video_hackers_bring_nintendo_64_to_the_nes_classic_edition

>implying games like Goldeneye will be on the N64 Mini.

You'll be lucky to even have Donkey Kong 64.

>>385101342
>The N64 cannot be emulated!
(You)

Name 30 N64 games worth the price

>>385107298
They just gotta replicate the RCP. I think they still make MIPS processors, not that's the problem though.

Only game I'd care to play that I can't already emulate perfectly or doesn't have a superior remake/sequel is fucking mischief makers. And there's no way that will make it onto the list.

>>385107569
1080 Snowboarding
Banjo Kazooie
Banjo Tooie
Battletanx Global Assault
Beetle Adventure Racing
Blast Corps
Body Harvest
Castlevania Legacy of Darkness
Conker's Bad Fur Day
Diddy Kong Racing
Donkey Kong 64
Doom 64
Duke Nukem Zero Hour
Excitebike 64
Extreme G
F-Zero X
Gauntlet Legends
Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon
Goemon's Great Adventure
Goldeneye 007
Harvest Moon 64
Hybrid Heaven
Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine
Jet Force Gemini
Killer Instinct Gold
Kirby 64
Ocarina of Time
Majora's Mask
Starfox 64
Mario Golf
Mario Kart 64
Mario Party 2
Mario Tennis
Micro Machines 64 Turbo
Mischief Makers
Ogre Battle 64
Operation Winback
Paper Mario
Perfect Dark
Pilotwings 64
Pokemon Puzzle League
Pokemon Stadium 2
Pokemon Snap
Quake II
Ridge Racer 64
Road Rash 64
Rocket: Robot on Wheels
Rogue Squadron
Space Station Silicon Valley
Super Mario 64
Super Smash Bros
The World Is Not Enough
Turok 3
Wave Race 64
World Driver Championship
Yoshi's Story

Bangai-O
Bomberman 64 (Japan version)
Dezaemon 64
Sin and Punishment
Wonder Project J2

>>385107569
Not going to have 30 games. If anything, it will have no more than 20.

Super Mario 64
Paper Mario
Ocarina of Time
Majora's Mask
F-Zero X
Super Smash Bros.
Mario Kart 64
Kirby Crystal Shards
Mario Party (one of 3 games)
Pokemon Stadium 2
Pokemon Snap
Bomber Man 64
Mario Tennis
Waverace 64
Pilot Wings 64

Bonuses:
Sin & Punishment
Ocarina of Time: Master Quest
One or two Rare games.

>>385108010
Guess my point is that if they went to the effort of specialized hardware they could probably manufacture RCP again. Nintendo own the rights to it pretty sure.

All N64 components were manufactured at 350nm. We can do 14nm today, so you could probably integrate all N64 parts into a chip smaller than a grain of rice.

>>385108239
That's the most unrealistic list I've ever seen.

>Rare made half of the N64's worthwhile library
>Nintendo just sold them
Was it jealousy?

The N64 mini will be $100. Calling it now.

>>385108537
>Nintendo sees what scalpers are getting and just charges $300 in the first place

I don't understand why people can't just reverse engineer the emulator used for the Nintendo 64 VC

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Do you think he'll be getting one?

As a kid I always wanted a Nintendo 64 but my parents were poor so I got a PlayStation instead.

>>385108528
Nintendo has no idea what causes them success.

>>385102973
>70% of the worthwhile library
>Only worthwhile Rare games are Banjo Kazooie, Goldeneye and Perfect Dark
>Mario 64, Smash Bros, F Zero X, Kirby 64, Paper Mario, Sin and Punishment, Tactics Ogre 64.

We're talking 30% AT BEST, my friend.

>>385106303
What's this story about and whaat'ss sso difficult about making map scrollling?

>>385108856
I'm sure that's still an HLE emulator with game specific hacks. Good hacks, mind you, considering they got the mess that is DK64 to run. What we really need is a cycle accurate emulator. But of course that would run really slow, so I guess we'd be stuck with HLE anyway.

>>385109232
>He doesn't like Tooie
>He doesn't like Conker
>He doesn't like Diddy Kong Racing
>He doesn't tolerate DK64

>>385101643
You can literally play goldeneye at 60fps on 1964 you faglord

>>385108378
>Pokemon Stadium 2
Why would the put a game with limited playability?
Also Snowboarding 1080 is a must

>>385109328
Earthbound was in development hell and about to be canned. Iwata came in, rewrote their spaghetti code and got everything working in a month. Everyone was amazed. Map scrolling was just the first thing he got working.

>>385109476
Thanks, i'm not really well versed on japanese developers.

>>385109439
>He likes lesser versions of Banjo Kazooie
>He likes a lesser version of crash team racing

>amateurs can't do something
>that means Nintendo can't
Saw this same argument when it was rumored Microsoft were gonna emulate 360 games or something.

>>385106303
Iwata was a good programmer, but his tenure as president left a lot to be desired. Still liked the guy though.

>>385101342
They don't need to emulate every game ever released on it, just the ones they choose to ship on it.

>>385109683
>his tenure as president left a lot to be desired
You do realize that Nintendo was the world's most profitable company per employee at one point under him, right?

>>385110083
That's good for them, but they made the damn Wii U.

>>385101529
>mfw I "reddit space" on purpose to bait the most dim witted pavlovian dogs

>>385110373
Stop using Reddit arrows.

>>385109439
Tooie is dog shit

>>385110513
It is a good game disliked by brainlets.

>>385101342
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpJHYzrf2po

>>385110995
Of course a miniture version using original hardware would work. But of course Nintendo's not going to do that.

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Widescreen hacks seem easy to implement. Do you think Nintendo would go for that? It would be a good selling point.