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Hi! I'm the best starter Pokemon of all time!

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Hi!

I'm the best starter Pokemon of all time!
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Fuck Mudkips
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>not chikorita
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>not chespin
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>>385077430
not even the best in it's gen
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>>385077604
Chespin is easily one of my favorite starters, but Chesnaught is easily one of my least favorite starter final evos.
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>>385077604
I love chespin but hate his evos
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>>385077430
i liek it
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>>385077674
Chesnaught's not that bad, it's just not as nice a design as its base form
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Actually it's Pikachu traded to RB to evolve into Raichu then traded back
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>>385077697
So I've heard
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>>385077430
shit meme good sweeper if you're using a rain team
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>>385077430
>not Torchic
Its final evo is literally banned for how overpowered it is, and you think Mudkip is the best? Only if it gets Speed Boost, Bulk Up, Brave Bird, Flare Blitz, Close Combat and/ or Roost.
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>>385077430
>nu-pokemon
>good
Any pokemon that existed after gold and silver are automatically shit. Fuck off underage.
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>Not Empoleon
Come on senpai, he's literally the king.
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>>385078724
Ruby and Sapphire came out in 2002. Anyone who was 10 at the time is in their mid-20s by now.
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>>385078724
>nostalgiafag
and why should we listen to you, o king of pokemangs?
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>>385078496
looks like we got a pokemon master here
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>>385078496
Z-Mirror Move is the most fun set
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>>385078829
Fuck off. Anything past 2001 cannot be considered old. To say so otherwise shows how new you are here.
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>>385078724
Kill yourself
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>>385078724
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>>385078496
So everything it won't actually have as a starter
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>>385078730
due to his retarded steel second typing (which he can barely utilize anyway), he's now weak to ground and fighting moves which I fucking hate because that means faggots like Blaziken and Infernape have a chance against him. Fire moves hit normally as well and there is no resist. Empoleon is awful.

Feraligatr masterrace.
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If we're talking about starters, can we mention how almost all of them were fucking butcher'd in the transition to 3D I mean fucking LOOK at Feraligatr. He had a fantastic sprite in HGSS and gen 5 and now he looks retarded.
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MUD
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>>385079224
it would get those moves eventually, if you gave it attention.
Swampert doesn't even get amazing coverage ever, has fucking abysmal stats, and has a retarded typing that it would die in seconds if a better sweeper is on the field.
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>>385079650
A true pokemon master doesn't pick pokemon based and stats and moves and strategy. A true pokemon master picks with his heart.
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>>385079942
and that pokemon that was chosen is rekt because the opponent chose an arguably better pokemon.
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>>385079650
>abysmal stats
speedfag detected. Swampert relies on bulk and attack and swift swim fixes it's slowness. If anything his main problem is a lack of any recovery moves. Basically what >>385078456 said, it's only good on rain teams.
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>>385077430
So I heard
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When will they make Pokemon battles interesting?
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>>385080150
never
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his only real weakness is grass type moves, which by the way are still terrible in gen3, no real good grass type pokemons out there
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>>385077430
That thing wasn't even thought of yet when the best starter arrived.
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>tfw best starter until forced cringey anime bullshit ruined everything
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>>385080192
/thread
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>>385080192
>gen 1 starters
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>>385080150
This is my problem with the game. I love everything except the combat. Even competitively I hate it on a fundamental level, the whole RPS switch fest is just tedious and doesn't fit with the game's character at all.
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>>385080150
they can't because it would require changing the mechanics completely.
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>>385080709
They did it for Mystery Dungeon
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>>385080191
>no real good grass type pokemons out there
Why do you have to lie on the internet anon?
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>>385079026
Death? Death? You're gonna kill me? You're gonna fucking kill me? Why? WHY? Because I fucked you? You fucked me! You fucked ME! You came to MY house! You came to ME! I got you a car, I brought you your clothes, you took a fuckin' BUBBLE BATH! You wanted it! You wanted it! You came on to me! What was I supposed to do? You sucked my cock, you both fucking sucked my cock! It was FREE PIZZA! Free fuckin' pizza! It just shows up at my fuckin' door! What am I supposed to do? "We're flight attendants. Come on, fuck us! No one will know. Come on, fuck us!" Oh, twosomes, threesomes. It doesn't matter! Starfish! Husbands! You don't give a fuck, you'll just fuck anything, you'll just fuck anything! Well, you lied to me, I tried to help you! I let you in, I was a good guy, I'm a good father! And you just fucking fucked me! What? Now, you're gonna kill me? You're gonna kill me? Why? Why? 'Cause you fucked me? What the fuck-FUCK-FUCK, this is fucking insane!
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>>385080761
venasaur
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so i herd u liek mudkipz
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>>385080982
I never understood why this was funny. It always felt like I walked in on the joke and everyone in the room was already laughing so I just pretended to laugh while I tried to figure out the punchline
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>>385080748
which required changing it to a roguelike game
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>>385081127
there is no punchline
it's not even funny
but it's famous because reasons
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the sheer faggotry in this thread is astonishing.

let me and my boi fix that
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>>385080304
Like what you like, man. If it gets a new form you don't like, don't use it, if other people who like or hate on it bug you, ignore them.
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>>385077604
>>385077674
>most of my favorite starters become shit when they evolve
At least Charizard and Sceptile are pretty cool.
>>385079467
>best feraligatr sprite
>not gen 3
Are you even trying?
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>>385077430
>best fire: torchic
>best water: totodile
>best grass: there isn't one
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>>385080761
Well, maybe with the exception of one or two pokemon, I'm a sucker for Exeggutor myself but what I'm saying is out of the 3 starters mudkip is the one with less weaknesses and more utility since he's way more versatile. plus, mudkip is the only one who has a chance at killing his weakness since he can learn ice moves and fuck over a grass type
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I still have this
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>>385081614
>charizard
>cool
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>>385081690
>implying torchic is better than arcanine
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>>385081780
you're right, it's hot
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>>385081274
Pokemon honestly works better as a rouguelike. Don't see many people complain about muh lack of post game with the Mystery Dungeon games
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>>385081968
fuck off carlos
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>>385077674
I like Chespin and Chesnaught pretty evenly, they're one of the ones I like more. Not really a fan of Quiladin though.
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Hi, I'm the only good design in my entire evolutionary line! I trick you into thinking my pre-evolution is going to become a great pokemon, but then I go and throw it all away by becoming a retarded samurai horse!
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>>385082837
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>>385081127
>>385081293
Old 4chan was was way better am I right?
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>>385083096
>announcing reports
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>>385082563
fuck off man, samurott caught my heart the moment I saw him
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>>385078724
Gen 2 had the worst designs in the series though. Just fodder left over from Gen 1.
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Torchic>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mudkip
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>>385081690
>implying Rowlet isn't the best Grass starter and starter overall
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>>385085098
Treecko>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Torchic>Mudkip
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>>385083131
Yeah, because back then people could enjoy stupid and nonsensical humor without faggots spamming LE SO FAHNNY XD ironic shitposting.
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>>385085383
It wasn't humor. It was shit.
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>>385080150
doubles. if they made a mainline pokemon game with only double battles, that would probably my favorite.
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>>385085724
In that case you should try Colosseum and meme face if you haven't already
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>>385085285
>treecko
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>>385077430
>I'm the best starter Pokemon of all time!

>Subjectively likes Pikachu
>Objectively knows Venusaur is the best
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>>385080474
>Lysandre's ace is genwun
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>>385080761
>lmao5weakness
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>>385077430
Damn right you are.
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>Ctrl+F Torterra
>0 results
What, no love for the giant tortoise?
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>>385078724
>Any pokemon that existed after gold and silver are automatically shit
Dude, seriously? Gen 2's had pokemon abysmal in stats and design, especially with the constant dot-eyed smiley faces.

Also
>nu-pokemon
How old are you to consider stuff from 2002-2005 nu-pokemon?
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>CTRL+F
>Braixen
>0 results
Thank you for restoring my faith in humanity /v/, you guys rock.

Also pic related is the best starter.
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>>385079467
I dropped this series when they announced they would be shifting to 3d models. It was obvious it was going to translate terribly with stiff movement and strain on the framerate.

And you're right about the all starters looking terrible. They can't even bother to animate Blastoise shooting out of his cannons. Even the Stadium games could pull that off 2 decades ago.
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>>385089613
I think he meant 1st evo stage.
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>>385089772
Fair enough. Fennekin is actually alright, too bad her evolution ended up being furfag-tier trash.
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>>385077430
not cyndaquil
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I was having this discussion with a coworker. He said Pikachu is a starter pokemon and I disagreed. We went back and forth for a while and never came to a conclusion. So /v/ is pikachu a starter?
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>>385082563
What's with the post-gen 4 games having decent starter designs but ruining them in their second or final forms? It wouldn't that bad if their designs were just bad, but they also involve basically abandoning the general theme or aesthetic the starter originally had.
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>>385089642
>give pokemon a new design with a giant gun on its arms and back
>don't animate his attacks coming out of them
And people still give Gamefreak their money?
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>>385081973
I see explorer of sky worth playing, the newer ones turn me off because of the 3D
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>>385089239
torterra is the best grass
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>>385090151
Yeah, Pikachu was a starter pokemon in yellow
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>>385089938
>furfag-tier trash
Nothing is sacred.
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>>385090151
Yes.

I think the real question is: is Eevee a starter pokemon? He's your rival's starter in Yellow but the player can never have him as their starter.
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Anyone else here think that Gen 1 and Gen 3 are the only regions with good-looking starters for all of their evolution stages?
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>>385090736
Combusken, Ivysaur, and Blastoise are my favorite starter designs, so yeah.
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>>385090736
>Gen 3
>good-looking starters for all of their evolution stages
yeah sure I love the penis chicken
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>>385077430
>none of it's evos are playable in Smash
>best starter
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>>385090837
Marshtomp is a little iffy too.
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>>385090628
Eevee is your starter in gale of darkness so i would say so
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>>385090871
None of its evos are playable in Pokken either.
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>>385077430
Yeah you are
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>>385090928
Marshtomp at least looks like a logical step up from Mudkip, Combusken is just a straight up dick.
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>>385089239
superb taste
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>>385077430
That would be Cyndaquil, and what makes it good is...

1) Not overly good, Starters should be a starting crutch not a MVP.
2) Rare type that means you won't be ABLE to replace it within like 4 routes.
3) Cute.
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>>385091002
>not playable in the "Super Furry Pander Bros All Stars Battle Royale Bukkake Edition"
>somehow determines whether or not a pokemon is good
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>>385091238
Not an argument. Lucario is the best Pokémon and he's playable in it.
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>>385091345
>Lucario is the best Pokémon
kys furfag
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>play mtg on mondays
>conversation turns to pokemon because a guy is playing S/M
>someone says OR/AS
>bulk of the table agrees
>hoenn gunfirmed and trumpet memes are made
>I say I prefer B2 or Plat
>nobody agrees

>later the guy was saying how helpful Rotom was pointing out where to go but seeing as how I was already booo'd off once I just let it slide
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>>385091598
Being patrician amongst plebeians is a pain many can suffer, Anon. At least that guy playing S/M will likely get so bored he'll quit halfway through.
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>>385091048
well Blaziken looks nothing like Torchic so one had to be the outlier
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>>385091598
You have good taste. Platinum is fantastic.
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>>385090324
But anon, there's like, a lot of models, you know? And a lot of moves!

We're a small company of 120 people!
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>>385089642
No! You can't quit! GameFreak will go bankrupt without your support!
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>>385077559
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>>385090736
Gen 4 starters are the best in my opinion. They're all good and valuable as party members and have and strong arguments can be made for all of them. Chimchar line is one of the only fire types you'll be seeing. Piplup line has extremely nice typing and coverage. Torterra admittedly isn't as good as the others but that does not deter the fact that he's great to have.
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oh hi i upgraded your pokeman
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>>385092510
>Chimchar line is one of the only fire types you'll be seeing.
So then why bother choosing any of the others?
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>>385079026
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
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>>385092560
Because in all honesty fire type is garbage in playthroughs. Let's think about what it's good against: Bug, Steel, Grass, Ice. You won't be seeing Steel and Ice a whole lot, meaning it's only really good for bug and grass. Seeing as how you're going to want a flying type anyways for Fly, and that fighting types are more useful because seemingly 80 percent of NPCs use normal type, while also covering steel, ice, rock, and dark.

Bottom line is that fire type is just outclassed in runs and there's no "real" reason to use it unless you like the pokemon.
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>>385092541
first time I played sapphire I used Swampert as a HM Slave so this kinda works
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>>385079468
KIP
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>>385092510
I would've been fine putting Gen 4's starters up there with Gen 1 and 3, but the Chimchar line is to reliant due to the region's lack of other fire types. Plus, I don't find Monferno's design particularly appealing. Still, all the other designs look great though, their final evolutions are fantastic, and I really like how they end up having typings that put them at both advantages and disadvantages with one another.
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*steps on your PokeBalls*
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>>385077430
For once OP was not a fag
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>Squirtle
>Cyndaquil
>Treecko
>Turtwig
>Tepig
>Chespin
>Litten

How shit is my taste?
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>>385093119
Not bad at all.
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>>385093119
6/7, overall a man of culture
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>>385092802
Well, there was Ruby and Sapphire. Even though the region was very water focused, having a Fire type ended up being a great benefit for facing the Pokemon League. Especially one like Blaziken, which could utilize strong Flying and Fighting type moves. Though I could be remembering wrong.
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>>385093119
You seem to be the type of guy who mostly prferes sturdy-looking or easily-identifiable-abilities Pokemon. Even though your choices are not my kind of flavor, it's nice to see someone with generally consistent taste.
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Starter gens
3 => 1 > 4 > 2 > 6 > 5 > 7
Prove me wrong
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>>385093545
I usually go for what I'd consider the cutest.
That's why Carbink is my favourite Gen VI 'mon.
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>>385093352
Eh. Blaziken was best because of it's part fighting type and great matchups against 2.5/5 E4/champion. The .5 is Glacia, because if Walrein can take a hit, Blaziken is done for. Other than that, he folds to gym 1 (assuming it's still a torchic), 6, 7, and 8. Meanwhile it's part fire type doesn't contribute much to the league or really anything.
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>>385093545
Do me next
Charmander
Cyndaquil
Mudkip
Chimchar
Oshawot
Froakie
Rowlett
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>>385093837
nice/7
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>Bulbasaur
>Cyndaquil
>Mudkip
>Piplup
>Snivy
>Chespin
>Litten
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>>385093119
>Squirtle
>Totodile
>Mudkip
>Piplup
>Oshawott
>Chespin
>Poplio

My taste is better
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>>385093352
Swampert was still the superior choice for the E4. It can use Brick Break for the 1st and 3rd members while also using Ice Beam for the 4th. Steven uses steel types and his Cradily can be taken down with Ice Beam. Blaziken's still extremely good just lacking the Ice Beam edge for the dragon member
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>>385093837
You seem to the the kind of guy that would find plenty of real non-mammalian animals cute and prefer starters to have a followable aesthetic.
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I haven't touched pokemon since platinum. Is it worth revisting a new title? If so what and can I emulate it.
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>>385094007
>>385093352
>>385093785
Looking back, I really like how well all the Gen 3 starters could utilize good fighting type moves.
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>>385094018
I gues you are right.
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>>385094123
Not really. People say BW/B2W2 are alright, but all the 3DS games have received really bad reception. If you REALLY want to try them out, it's best to emulate them rather than pay for them.
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>>385094003
>Poplio
I hope you are not counting the evolutions
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>>385094123
HGSS, BW1&2 and S/M are fantastic, give them a shot.
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>>385094172
gen 3 was surprisingly balanced for being the gen with lots of water routes. There's more fire types in it than Sinnoh
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>>385094295
Brionne is the cutest Gen 7 mon. Primarina is bad though.
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>>385094123
Play hgss and bw/bw2
Hgss/bw2 are probably the 2 best games in the franchise.
ORAS is nice if you have a huge nostalgia boner for Hoen like me otherwise every 3ds game is not worth your time.
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>>385094123
>I haven't touched pokemon since platinum. Is it worth revisting a new title? If so what and can I emulate it.
I wouldn't say it's worth it. Once X/Y came along, the games started hindering themselves with overly flashy aesthetics and intrusive stories, all while gimping many pokemon types and removing fun features that added to replayability.

Also, Sun and Moon are terrible. Don't even consider playing them.
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>Blastoise
>Feraligatr
>Blaziken
>Torterra
>Samurott
>Greninja
>Decidueye
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>>385094391
I am still kinda dissapointed in popplio he was my favorite gen 7 starter untill I saw what he evolved into.
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>charmander
>cyndaquil
>torchic
>chimchar
>tepig
>fennekin
>litten
Always picked fire-type as a kid so I just kept it going even when they were shitty
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>>385094448
>Hgss/bw2 are probably the 2 best games in the franchise.
I strongly disagree with that recommendation for HGSS. The Johto region is still relatively barren, has a terribly inconsistent level curve a third into the game, and has very slow gameplay similar to D/P or the console Pokemon games. As remakes, very little of the biggest issues from the Gameboy Color versions were fixed.
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>>385094561
>Sun and Moon are terrible
no they arent
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>>385085449
The real point wasn't that it was funny, it was that no one was uptight. It was very loose and while that's probably why were were such fags back then, it's also probably why things were funner and generally better back then.

Does being in a community that's violently committed to a sense of post quality and is the way it is because it fails hard at adhering to it actually make you happy?
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>>385094561
>Also, Sun and Moon are terrible. Don't even consider playing them.
This.
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>>385094819
Which do you think it is the best?
The only games I think are better are bw2 platinum and maybe emerald.
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>>385094741
Did the same but with water types. Feraligatr's my favorite aesthetically but Empoleon is my favorite all around for all the resistances. Worst are probably Samurott for being so underwelming and Primarina for the design.
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>>385095028
>The only games I think are better are bw2 platinum and maybe emerald.
You pretty much listed the best and most-replayed Pokemon games.
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>>385094949
>land on a random complaint
>when using L=A mode, the R button does not function
Oh god no, not the R button.
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>>385094949
This shit was made by some diamond and pearl fag thats ass mad that their shitty gen didnt get remade
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>>385095028
Then play Fire Red or Leaf Green, which are the best remakes. If you've already played those, then you already experienced the heights of the franchise.
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>>385095160
Well I can agree with that, but I also don't think that outside of those 3 any of the other games are better, I personally like BW1 a lot, but that is my personal preference.
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>>385095297
That's a pretty random thing to project.
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>>385095350
No way leaf green was limke one of the first pokemon games I played, but hgss, bw2 and platinum easily blow it out of the water.
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>>385094949
When S/M showed that it would take about 15 minutes to get your starter and that it wouldn't be utilizing a national pokedex, I was surprised there were still people out there that bought it.
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>>385079026
2001 is pretty old at this point dude, stop being a contrarian oldfag.
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Anyone else love Venusaur's design? Also Giga Drain, Sludge Bomb, Substitute and a few other tricky moves work well with chlorophyll. Too bad it's coverage is weak overall but still my favourite gen 1 starter. Sceptile favourite overall.
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>>385079026
>>385078724
t. Jothoddler
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>>385095886
I love that pic
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>>385077430
Water/ground is enough to blow your mind as a kid
"Woah GROUND? So this nullify the electric weakness??? OPPP"
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>>385093119
You are probably the type of guy i don't want to be friends with.
You pick all the bad pokemon, and they are mostly ugly, what's your fucking problem?
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