when was the last time you defragged your hard drive /v/?

>>385076562
Not since I reformatted two years ago.

>>385076562
>2017
>Hard drive

It's been too long, i completely forgot about doing that to be honest.

>>385076562
I haven't even had a hard dive in over a year now

im so fucking high right now

>>385076562
bout a year ago, I'm not too concerned about it since I hardly use my harddrive

>>385076562
why would I ever do this give me the rundown on defrag

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>>385076562
>5 tb hdd
>takes 30 seconds to defrag
feels good man

>>385076562
Windows 7 defrags automatically regularly
so a dew says I guess

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>>385076562
The other day I did a complete defrag of my data drive. Sorted all of my most important stuff towards the inside of the platters and larger, more disposable stuff near the outside. It's accessing great now.

>>385076734
this

>>385076562
shit, I've been forgetting to do this

>>385076734
>>385076772
You should disable that if you use a SSD. FYI.

>>385076810
why?

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>>385076606
>>385076562
>tfw got a 128GB SSD

>Can only fit 1 modern game on there
>Doom free weekend I couldn't even get doom even if I removed alot of stuff


SSDs are a meme

>>385076810
it only defragg my HDD

>>385076734
dew says what?

>>385076842
it's worth it for having my OS on it alone
no memes, your computer works twice as quickly

>>385076842
No shit, why would you buy a 128GB any expect to install games on it? Ones that small are only for OS and programs.

>>385076749

How?

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Literally never

>>385076825
SSDs don't use spinning disks. They use chips. A file being fragmented and spread out across multiple chips actually has no negative impact on its read speed.

However, SSDs do wear out with use, and if your OS is constantly (and needlessly) moving files around on your SSD it's slowly reducing the lifespan of your drive.

>>385076810
Christ, can't Windows figure that out on its own?

>>385076842
>he didn't get at least a 500gb ssd to ensure ample space for the large shiny games he plans on installing and playing
No one to blame but yourself bud.

Seriously though modern installs will just keep getting bigger and bigger, you've already got bullshit 100gb installs for a single game, you should have thought ahead dude.

pretty sad that windows no longer has disk defragmenter desu

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>>385076842
>only getting 128GB for games

What are you fuckin' stupid?

>>385076562
I dont even know what is that for.
Does it delete stuff?
I dont want any of my shit deleted.

>>385076842
That's why I have two 1 TB SSDs

>>385076842
you're supposed to use the SSD for the OS and get a normal HD for your storage.

>>385077060
yes

>>385076991
Like with most things, the program Windows uses is not the only program available, and usually not the most effective/efficient either. I use MyDefrag, formerly known as JKDefrag. It has a lot of options that can allow you to fine tune what files go where.

>>385077009
Are we talking days? Months? Years? How long is average life of an SSD?

>>385077091
But you're rich while I'm a simple fucking college student, no shit sherlock.

>>385076810
Windows automatically disables this, what you should do however to save SSD lifespan is extend the period of time firefox/chrome/whatever use for session saving in case of a crash, they set it to some ridiculously small amount of time that basically just wastes write cycles constantly

>>385077089
No it just moves files around on your hard drive so your computer accesses them faster. Moves them physically on the disk I mean, they stay in place within the file browser

>>385076640
>tfw i get high now my teeth, legs and balls start to hurt and i feel it for days after
>tfw paranoid about tooth pain for 2 months now

>>385077143

Neat, thanks anon. I always thought of doing that but neve imagined a program existed.

>>385077192
The money doesn't make up for the soul crushing job. Enjoy college while you can.

>>385077009
Windows 10 is smart enough to not defrag a SSD, not sure about Windows 7 or 8.

>>385076562
3 days ago.
Subnautica has recently reminded me of how useful it is

>>385077225
Thanks dawg, will do this

>>385077150
Earlier generations of SSDs would wear out rather quickly. Any SSD bought within the past 2-3 years should last you as long as a non-defective HDD if it's not being misused. If you're just using it for your OS and games and so on you should be fine. There are a couple of minor things you can do to make sure your SSD lasts as long as it possibly can, but if it's made recently by a good company they will have safeguards to prevent premature burnout.

>>385076915
A dew says "I guess."

>>385077325
What do you do? I need to know so I don't do it too

>>385077192
Atleast you get to buy what you want man

>>385077435
Submariner in the navy

>>385077381
Is Samsung good? I've had this 250GB from them for about a year and a half now

>>385077089
it makes larger files read faster on magnetic hard drives, because, when the file initially written, the way the head spinner works, it usually is written in absolutely different areas of the HDD.

Defragmentation pulls all those little clusters together into one continuous track, so the reading of the file would be faster.
It really improves performance, when the application tries to load many files all the time

>>385077325
At least you get to buy whatever you want...

>>385077513
Well no wonder you hate your life
do they have wifi on submarines

>>385077540
You're fine. Something like 95% of failures happen within the first month. Once you're past that it should last you several more years. Odds are your power supply will take a shit before your SSD begins to slow down.

>>385077631
where do you think they get internet from lol

>>385077513
you ever play silent steel?

Why the fuck would I defrag media drives? They don't suffer notable fragmentation, as I'm almost exclusively reading from them.

Or are you implying I'm using HDDs for anything other than media drives?

>>385077675
>>385077540
can confirm, my SSD has been working for a few years and has lived past two power supplies now

>>385077631
No. We can send emails up to twice a day.

>>385076562
Something like 15 years ago. Current Windows install is around 7 years old

>>385076606
yes, because memetic speeds that are dropped to sup sata-6 hard drive like a dead horse after the read-write buffer is filled justify a tenfold increase of price per gigabyte.

Sorry to ruin your imaginary world, but SSDs are only good for photo/video editing with large amounts of files to work with.
For gaming a 60 bucko multi-TB hard drive with effective read speeds up to 150MB/s is more than enough.

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>>385077549
I just do it to keep all of my reaction images in one contiguous block so whenever I need to get the perfect one my HDD isn't throwing a fit looking for everything.

Is defragging actually useful?
Will it make it so that my 10000 thumbnails for my images load instantly?

>>385076562
>HDD
Get yourself one of these babies.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LXS4TY6/ref=twister_B01N78T39B?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

>>385077716
People on subs who do extra sub stuff out of work are fucked in the head.

>>385076939
i have placed all my OS files into beginning of the partition in one continuous track - not counting BIOS post, it boots up in 7 seconds. From a cheap-ass 2TB hard drive

>>385077814
Thumbnail database for a folder is a single file.

>>385076825
The advice not to defragment ssds comes from the days when they had a very limited number of writes. They have a very, very large number of writes now. They do benefit from defragmentation tailored to their needs and Windows does occasionally defragment them. From Microsoft:

>Storage Optimizer will defrag an SSD once a month if volume snapshots are enabled. This is by design and necessary due to slow volsnap copy on write performance on fragmented SSD volumes. It’s also somewhat of a misconception that fragmentation is not a problem on SSDs. If an SSD gets too fragmented you can hit maximum file fragmentation (when the metadata can’t represent any more file fragments) which will result in errors when you try to write/extend a file. Furthermore, more file fragments means more metadata to process while reading/writing a file, which can lead to slower performance.
As far as Retrim is concerned, this command should run on the schedule specified in the dfrgui UI. Retrim is necessary because of the way TRIM is processed in the file systems. Due to the varying performance of hardware responding to TRIM, TRIM is processed asynchronously by the file system. When a file is deleted or space is otherwise freed, the file system queues the trim request to be processed. To limit the peek resource usage this queue may only grow to a maximum number of trim requests. If the queue is of max size, incoming TRIM requests may be dropped. This is okay because we will periodically come through and do a Retrim with Storage Optimizer. The Retrim is done at a granularity that should avoid hitting the maximum TRIM request queue size where TRIMs are dropped.

In other words, let the computer automatically handle the details.

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>>385077819
>Meme.2

>>385077631
>do they have wifi on submarines

Not only do we not have wifi, we can't have any electronics that would interfere with communications or electronics

No nintendo switch no phones no Wii, Ps4 is ok, phones are not, and worst of all is the musky sweaty hot feel all day every day from all the moisture It's like swampass but worse

>>385077782
Even after the buffer is full you're still much, much faster than on a HDD. The big change is latency with near-zero seek times, SSDs just respond much, much faster.

Also, even after the buffer is full an SSD will still be much faster.

>>385077782
I bought an ssd in 2012 when I kept dying in Diablo 3 before I finished loading into some area. A mechanical hard drive is still satisfying to use for most games.

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>>385077930
I need that 3 gb/s read speed dawg

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>>385077947
>got memed into the shitty sub job
Condolences.

>>385077819
I have one, not worth it over SATA.

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Think about this /v/: 4chan is now filled with people who were born after CRT monitors were phased out and have never degaussed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd9nOtX-CJg

>>385077753
What kinda cheap shit power supplies are you buying?

My 10 year old power supply is still working and it's been on 24/7

>>385078163
i did that as a kid
i never knew what it meant though

>>385078163
I remember putting a magnet on one of our schools computer monitors and it getting fucked up

>>385078291
Capacitors have a limited lifespan and when they fail, they turn power supplies into rippletastic hardware killers. That's while the PSU keeps working.

Not to mention that the efficiency increase alone may well be worth it, depending on power draw and local electricity prices.

>>385078038
fair point, but SSD for gaming is still an overkill.

Also, did they fix horribly short lifespan of SSDs? How many times can you effectively rewrite the cluster on SSD before it goes dead?
Because I wouldn't mind to have one small SSD for few apps, but I have, like, 15 years old Samsung HDD which STILL works like a charm and i don't want to trade-off longevity for speed.

>>385078163
When I was a little kid I used to spit and sometimes pour a little water in the monitor to watch it disappear at the bottom.
Then it stopped working and I heard my mom talking to the friend that got is a new monitor and he said there was water in the monitor. Then she said not to eat or drink near the conputer anymore.

I have defraggler configured to defrag every day

Apparently years ago

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Actual computer tech here.
Defrag is useless unless you're at max capacity. Meaning you will see an increase of speed only if you have no space left on your hdd. Otherwise, it is only used to get more space.
Windows 7+ automatically defrag when you're not using it. So you only have to manually defrag if you're on win xp or older.

DO NOT DEFRAG A SSD.
And if you have an SSD and you are on windows 7, make your your TRIM is enabled (Google it) and AHCI mode is set in the bios, not IDE.
I know for sure windows 10 do it for you, but if you're an autistic /pol/ user that never bothered to update your windows, you might kill your SSD for no reason.

>>385078354
Didn't degaussing fix this? I remember doing it but not why now.

>>385078467
How much is no space?
>t. constantly on my last GB or less of space on my 500 GB hard drive

>>385078163
I loved that sound
>*chlunk*

>>385078384
>Also, did they fix horribly short lifespan of SSDs?
Yes, years ago. My 960 evo is good officially for 400 TB written, but tests show they're usually exceeding this by far. In practice, modern SSDs are good into the petabyte range.

>>385078384
You might have set your pc wrong for the SSD, I've been using this SSD constantly everyday for the last 8 years.

>>385078490
It should, unless he stuck it on there over the weekend with a neodynium magnet.

If that's the case, a stronger degaussing coil would have to be used to get rid of it.

>>385076562
Never, it's not needed on modern OSs. .

>>385078163
>that MOHAA Spearhead icon
>you will never join a clan and play Druckmercom again
i never asked for these feels anon

>>385078163
>>385078490
>>385078630
I never had to degauss my monitor. I didnt even know this was a thing until right now.
If I ever did the magnet thing all I had to do was turn it off and then turn it back on.

>>385078596
oh, good on them. Are there any ssd equivalents in a more commom form factor (like 2,5/3,5 HDDs) which work as long?

>>385078490
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOyKuQf36TI

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>>385078747
My television had a degauss function built into it.

>>385076562
I have an SSD.

>>385078574
It'll only go slow for the last bytes you're trying to fill out. But it always depend on the size. If you're on your last gB, then trying to move large files from withing the hdd will take more time, and it will be fragmented everywhere on the disk. And even there, unless you're on windows xp, defrag is a thing of the pass that you shouldn't bother with it, since its all automated.

Computer guts noob here, what's an SSD and how does it work? How much does one cost and how easy is it to install?

>>385078739
http://techreport.com/review/27909/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-theyre-all-dead

They tested a bunch of 2.5" models several years ago. Sector reallocations didn't happen until several hundred TB written. The TLC drives lasted for >500TB, the others into the petabyte range, and current SSDs will be even better.

>>385077947
How does it pay?

>>385079181
well, i guess i'll look into that.
cheers

>>385079117
It's a faster variant of the hard drive, working with pixie dust as far as you need to care, and they're going for $80 for 250GB. They're usually installed the same way HDDs are.

You want to know more, google's over there.

>>385079181
Wait, do harddrives fuck up because of rewriting the same space over time? I thought it was just because they were moving machines which wear down or break, so I assumed SSDs would last considerably longer from the start

>>385079318
Pretty pretty gud m8, military service benefist and the pay is the only reason I'm down here stuck in a shithole. If you ever need some money you're welcome to join, just be warned though, transgender and women are now in the military and I heard some other subs have women and have to deal with their constant bitching.

How long will a mostly full 1tb HDD take if i've never defragged it?

How to defrag ext2 filesystem?

What exactly is degaussing?

>>385079117
SSDs are a storage format used commonly on PCs; like HDDs.
SSDs are about 1:2 dollars to GBs
HDDs are about 1:20 dollars to GBs

Simply: SSDs use technology that is faster to access data than most HDDs

SSDs have their trade-offs compared to HDDs, those notably being:
>more expensive
>higher risk of data loss after part failure

Consumer usage varies, but gaming sees a notable difference in load times.

>>385079563
I'm good then. I'm pretty unskilled and need a job that could get me through life so it sounds good. Engineering teacher years ago recommended it.

>>385079117
HDD is mechanical storage, meaning that there is a physical arm inside the box that has to move to every part on the disk to collect the data.

SSD is like a RAM bar that doesn't empty itself, it's insanely faster than HDD but has less memory (in general). Current price is about .50 cent for 1GB of data for the SSD, meaning a 120GB will cost you 60$, but it is the best increase you can do to your computer to make it run faster (Windows stuffs, not games). It's just like any regular hdd, you format it and you install windows on it.

There are even more advance shit called m.2 SSD, that's an SSD card that you plug directly into the processor, like a PCI express, so you don't have the bottleneck from the sata cables. They cost a little bit, so I don't know if they're really worth it. And you need a motherboard with a m.2 type slot (Which all the new motherboard has).

>>385079548
Hard drives only suffer from mechanical wear and tear.

SSDs just wear down electronic paths. Think of switching a light bulb on and off a couple thousand times. Eventually it breaks. Same rough idea, the flash cells only survive so long.

>>385077871
huh? then why did they all load so slowly after I have like 1,000 images in a folder

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>>385076842
>>385077071
>>385077087

git gud faggots

Well, shit, probably my last computer, before I built this one. And even then, that was just a one-time thing I did to see if it would just randomly and magically fix a problem I had.

I think the last time I seriously defragged anything was my laptop, and I stopped using that thing back about maybe 10 years ago.

>>385079896
Alright sweet, was worried there. When it comes to shit like this I'm super autistic and fear losing quality on my images or vids, or my hard drives failing, etc.

>>385080052
Losing quality from hard drive or SSD wear is near impossible, you have data or you don't, there's no inbetween.

If you're worried about failure, SET UP BACKUPS. That's the only way to be sure. Cold storage backups.

>>385080008
you're lucky I'm not at home right now boi

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>>385080008
neat.jpg

>>385077513
Do submariners actually wear submariners?

>>385080131
Yeah, I do. But I always worry about quality loss while moving things over to another harddrive or something. I know its completely unwarranted and I wish I didn't do this.

>>385076562
The day i moved from XP to Win7, like everyone else.

Weekly scheduled on my computer

>>385080248
I don't know what you're trying to ask.

How come console internal hard drives last forever but consumer computer ones seem to have lifespan problems?

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>>385080450
>console internal hard drives last forever

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>>385080431

>>385079683
So if I put my games on the SSD they would load and run faster? Would they be able to run at a more consistent framerate and with higher graphics settings, or is that part solely on the video card and memory card?

Here's my machine's specs:

Windows 10 Home 64-bit OS and processor
Intel Core i5-4690K @ 3.50Ghz
8Gb RAM
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
1Tb hard drive, 1Tb external hard drive

>>385080450
I swear, my PS3 has been through so much shit.

>>385080541
>So if I put my games on the SSD they would load and run faster?
Yes.

> Would they be able to run at a more consistent framerate and with higher graphics settings
99% of the time, no.

There's the occassional game that loads assets from the disk as you play, in those instances you may be able to migitate framedrops.

But your actual problem is your shit GPU.

>>385080495
A couple of the guys I work with have rolexs. Don't know what type though.

>>385077513
Do you bully the nukes? Do you share a room with a bunch of dudes? Do the toilets really have no walls? What do you do when underway but on break or whatever? How long did it take you to get your fish?

>>385080624
In this fucked up market, 1050ti or R560 are the most reasonable purchase options unless you're okay with paying for extreme price gouging.

>had 250GB fragmented out of 2TB
boy did I shitpost a lot during that 24 hours

>>385080673
As an officer I am a nuke. Only the CO and XO have private rooms. They have walls. Sit in my rack and watch shows or read a book, I have like 30 minutes off a day. I don't have my fish.

>>385080770
Over the last couple months, if you bought a GPU, you're a moron. Just sit it out.

/v/ - Video Games

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>>385077716
First time I ever saw that game (or rather, interactive cinematic adventure) mention on /v/

>>385080829
Why? Did something happen?

Intel i7-4790 3.6GHz
GeForce GT 740
16 GB RAM
This is my work computer and I've never played a game on it before

>>385080824
Do you just sit down and look at screens all day? My brother who works at a power plant says that's what his job basically amounts to.

>>385080937
Ethereum (bitcoin alternative) boom. Unlike bitcoin, they're currently best mined on GPUs, not on ASICs, and particulary AMD's polaris GPUs are perfect for it. So miners bought up the whole midrange, and prices of the lower and higher tiers also were dragged up as people looked for alternatives.

People were able to make substantial profits by selling GPUs they bought months earlier for nearly twice the money.

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Yesterday.

>>385080937
Ethereum mining made all the graphics cards shoot up in price - only reasonable options right now are 1050ti, R560, 1080, and 1080ti, and the 1080 is starting to hike in price too.

Phones are now using DDR4, so all the RAM is being outsouced to mindless normies who think they need 16 gigs of 3200 speed RAM in their phone.

There's also something going on with SSDs apparently, but I'm not sure what.

>>385081082
>>385081171
Oh yeah, I heard about that in some other thread today

>>385081171
SSDs are always shady shit because of the taiwanese factory is one of the biggest manufacturers and can cause shortages at will.

>>385080994
I sit in a box and bullshit for 8 hours a day with the enlisted, and then the other 8 hours I do admin and training.

>>385081171
>>385081082
Etherium crashed recently so cheap GPU's flooded the market

>>385078163
>You will never again feel and smell the built up static electricity of a crt monitor

>>385081128
anon

>>385081357
"Cheap" as in they've been raped in the mines for weeks on end and will probably die.

>>385081307
>16 hours a day
Brutal.

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>recently replaced my HDD with a new SDD
>tfw the case is now the only part of my PC that is the same as when I originally built it

>>385081297
No one's causing a shortage deliberately. It's just the phone market dragging everything along in that sector.

There's also three big flash chip manufacturers, so it wouldn't be feasible in the first place, if one of them tried to cause a shortage, the other two would cash in.

>>385081357
Did they already? I don't see normal prices yet. Ethereum went down, but didn't collapse enough yet.

>>385077228

You need to stop smoking for at least a year bro.

You think you know what sobriety feels like but you don't.

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>>385078163
I've never seen actually redditors before

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does anyone remember this shit right here

>>385081770
The old gunnar optics

>>385081770
>Those South sales
God damn it Larry pick up the slack will you?

>>385081936
But if you factor in the south east, they're winning. Maybe theres a reason they're seperated. I don't fuckin know

>>385081936
Encyclopedias don't move so well down there. Stop giving Larry weak leads.

>>385077228
>tfw paranoid about tooth pain for 2 months now
Get to the dentist now. If you wait on that, you could potentially get a root canal. Root canals are not very fun, I had one a few years back.

>>385082027
'The leads are weak.' Fucking leads are weak? You're weak.

>>385081902
Holy shitttt I forgot about optikz bro

>>385077782
>bucko
i wish jordan peterson shills would die

>>385082257
(You)

>>385082257
who

>>385082178
Fucking piece of shit, get of my way, I'm getting some coffee.

>>385081128
You should not do that, Anon.

>till last year used to clean my PC almost every week with CCleaner
>one day decide to use the registry cleaning option
to see if performance improves
>next time I turn my PC I get blue screen and it always fail to start windows
>tried everything I could but nope, corrupted windows
>had to send it for a format and lost a lot of shit that I will never recover like my Dark Souls saves

Since then I'm paranoid as fuck and havent done any "cleaning" except anti virus stuff.
I know defrag is safe but still gonna wait till I make a backup.

>>385083065
anon, formatting a pc is not that hard

>>385077150
A modern SSD will out live you

>>385076562
About two years ago.

>>385083065
You retard. Even if you only have one HDD you just have to make a partition dedicated to the OS so even in those cases you just reinstall windows without losing shit.

my computer does it every wednesday at 1am.

>>385083507
What happens if your computer isn't turned on at Wednesday 1am?

>>385081770
>hi, i heard you want double glare and everything being dark as fuck while you play splinter cell or thief
Fucking piece of shit.

>>385083587
>he doesn't leave his computer on always to raise mommy's power bill

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>>385077150
>Are we talking days? Months? Years? How long is average life of an SSD?
For the normal end user (ie., not running heavy duty database stuff and the like) a current NAND-based SSD that is kept powered up regularly is good for around 12 years. Effectively that's forever, because at the current rate of improvement you'd be replacing it with something many times bigger AND cheaper long before then.

Note again though that SSDs are bad as an offline storage medium. Don't expect to toss one in a closet and get it again with 20 years from now. Archival is a whole different problem set.

>>385083301
>A modern SSD will out live you
Incorrect. Completely independent of cell usage, NAND has a natural maximum lifespan before breakdown. It's long enough that it shouldn't be something anyone has to deal with in practice, but one definitely won't outlive anybody using NAND. Long term cold archival is actually a very, very hard problem to do in a data-dense way. Even now a lot of really serious long term users (like governments, banks, etc) still rely on acid-free paper (albeit using often using printed bit patterns) in a vault when they want a backup to last a 50-100 years or more.

>>385077060
weirdly, Windows 7 would disable it for SSD by default. Not so much in Win8 and 10

>>385083587
itll just do it next time its on wednesday at 1am.

>>385083795
alkaline/archival paper stored properly should actually last more like 500-1000 years. combine with ocr+some kind of parity scheme, can cram a fair amount of data on a page, probably one of the best long term storage things we have, short of embossed gold or some crazy shit.

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>>385076562
>implying
I use ext4.

>>385076842
>buy new computer
>has fancy m.2 SSD slot
>m.2 SSDs cost an arm and a leg

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>>385084054
But what if it's also off on the next Wednesday at 1am?

>>385076842
>Not getting the GOAT 750GB SSD for $99 deal last black Friday

>>385083065
>>385083489
There is zero fucking excuse in this day and age not to have backups. Even some online service like backblaze is like a few dollarydingos a month and that's it. Or spend a fifty on a usb drive or something. What the fuck you faggots are stupid.

>>385076562
mine does a bit of defrag every time it goes to screensaver

>>385078314
Degaussing meant basically to "demagnitize". CRT computers would be affected by magnets, or the colorations would blend together if the image was left on a static screen for too long. Degaussing ran a magnetic pulse over your screen real quick in an attempt to fix it, which is why it always had that metallic hum associated with it.

That bit I mentioned about the static image is also the reason for screensavers. If you left a computer on for too long on the same image, there would be burn in, and let it burn in too much, and you'd have your desktop icons frozen in place forever. So they set up computers to start drawing random animations all over the screen constantly after 10-15 minutes of inactivity. This all died out with LCD screens though.

>>385083787

Serious question though
Does leaving your PC turned on for days can damage it in any way?
I dont have problems with power bills but I always turn my PC off when I go to sleep.
Though I could always leave it working to save me some time.

>>385084221
That's actually what I'm most excited about this year's Black Friday. 1TB and even 2TB SSDs are on the market now, but SATA is dying out as a high performance standard. I'm hoping that even big sizes of SATA SSD this year will see huge discounts, if they're big enough I'll replace my final spinning rust. I don't NEED the speed there but it'd be useful at the right price with ZFS. If all manufacturers are rushing to M.2 as the new hotness maybe some of the "old" standard stuff will be extra cheap.

>>385084292
>This all died out with LCD screens though.
One of the more amusing examples of path dependence and ancient tech hanging on is screen savers, tons of people still use them for lock screens and such even though they're obsolete for their original purpose, just because we all got used to them.

>>385078384
The biggest threat to an SSD is and always was software. Pre-SP1 Windows 7 can still kill SSDs by casually paging everything for no reason at all.

>>385080624
My GPU's been doing perfectly, actually, with the exception of XCom 2 but that game's an unoptimized mess. Constant consistant framerates, ultra settings on my games, smooth responsive controls.

>>385080624
>shit GPU
Actually if you go any higher than 1050t you a a jewcock stroking goyim wasting shekels

>>385084696
what paging? you mean pagefile?

>>385084546
>Does leaving your PC turned on for days can damage it in any way?
No. On the contrary, it's better for it. The major wear to electronics comes from spikes and dynamic change, not steady state.

>I dont have problems with power bills but I always turn my PC off when I go to sleep.
The only problem with a PC on 24/7 is that it's sucking power and putting out heat (and maybe noise, depending on build and whether that matters in your environment). Obviously, you need to make sure there is sufficient environmental control that it won't get too hot left alone and on. And if you leave it on all the time and don't have good habits about saving and such and the power goes out you could lose work, plus sudden hard power down isn't good for it either if it happens enough. In that case you might want to invest $70 or something into a cheap low end UPS that'll give you 10 minutes of buffer and has a USB link so the machine can autopower down if the grid goes down for too long.

>>385085040
Maybe if games were better optimized, but right now a single 1050 isn't really acceptable for running triple head, even at just 1080p rather then 1600p. 4k screens are also plummeting in price (though I'm going to just wait for 5k next year when I upgrade my screens and have a clean 2x HiDPI for non-vidya usage), I don't blame anyone who wants to get into higher res now.

>>385076562
What’s a hard drive?

>>385080845
still have the disc layin around somewhere, can't say I'd expect it to run on 7 though.

I use SSD and windows 10 schedules defrags every week.

>>385076562
>using proprietory partition formats

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>>385085789

>>385084292
heh, it's funny to think that my galaxy s5 had the menu buttons burnt on the screen due to AMOLED shenanigans

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>>385083065
>use some registry error fixing thing associated with avg on a whim
>cue months of paranoia about pc refusing to actually get past the "logging in" portion (hung right there)
>thought it was so many things though-- unplugged external I'd used since I had a 56GB hard drive from 2005 out of habit, copied all images to main drive, got rid of avg, rank chkdsk, all sorts of basic upkeep shit I assume
>later do a clean driver update for graphics card since I heard there was some option and fuck geforce experience it apparently was associated with some errors I was getting anyway in event log which the whole months of login process fucking up got me into the habit of checking
>hasn't fucked up for a solid 5 months running
>it was more than likely associated with a faulty driver/driver installation I had forgotten fucked up but seemed ok months prior to ever having login fuckups
honestly fuck computers but fuck dumb idiots like me even more for not being on top of erroneous shit to prevent dumb shit like this down the road

>>385076562
> 2017
> defraging

kek, get with the times and switch to SSD already, gramps.

>>385077859
the guy said no memes.
i have my os on an SSD and after the BIOS memory check, im at my desktop.

>>385077540
I have a 128GB SSD from Samsung for about 6 years now. Still going strong.

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Literally this drive will live longer than me. It's 5 years old now and still going strong with 96% life remaining.

Last month maybe? My 1tb has seen some shit but I only keep games stored there, my 4 the is pretty normal since I don't need to delete stuff too often. Fuck, how often do you guys reorganize your folders? My picture and meme folders are a fucking mess.

>>385076562

>2017
>not installing your OS to your 64gb of ram every time you turn your computer on

>>385077859
literally me desu

>>385080541
>specs
On shitty games it helps with stutter. Like I had mad stuttering In skyrim with 4k textures because bethesda soesnt believe inpreloading assets. SSD removed that and made loading times faster. In warhammer total war it made loading battles actually bearable from the usual +5 min load from shitgate.

>>385076842
Source on image?

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How much of hassle is it to replace a failing SSD? What is a telltale sign that the time has come to face the music (and the cost) and do it?

What are some good models and sizes for SSDs? How much memory does the average gamer need?

>>385076562
last time i defragged it fucked up a lot of things on my pc. I'd rather not do something that failed me before. ccleaner is good enough for me

>>385083795
Wait, SSDs are bad for archival? What dies in them? I figured since they aren't a bunch of mechanically moving bits like HDDs that they'd be just as good 10 years from now if you pulled one out of a (nice condition) closet or something

>>385076727
so glad the days of defragging taking 3 centuries are gone.

I don't know, I had the brilliant idea to format my gaymer driver using exFAT and now it's always super fragmented. Last time I tried I had to stop the process after 15 hours. I fear that if I keep trying I'm just going to kill the drive.