So he's right, right?

I once had some mole thing that was particularly spiky in my neck. I cut it out with a scissor and my neck looks fine. I wonder if you could do the same with those dude's eyelid moles. Is there any danger to doing that? If not, why doesn't everyone do it?

>>385017909
Wrong
Hes just a typical hipster contrarian.

Yet another Jap with retard sensibilities

>>385018332
>>385018491
What's wrong with what he's saying?

>>385017909
>Sadly, I don’t listen to game music, because with a few exceptions, I don’t enjoy playing games. I treat them as a visual medium. They’re something I view rather than play. Thus, when composing music, I think about what approach I should take musically not in regard to games, but in regard to visual media.

>That said, if you’ll allow me to offer my thoughts on the matter, it feels like everything is being glossed over by orchestral sounds. Don’t misunderstand me, I’m not attacking composers. It’s a more fundamental problem than that. It’s about whether game creators want to make games or mock-movies.

>Movies have specialized staff, often with decades of accumulated experience. When game creators take a movie scene we vaguely recognize (including the music), imitate it with all the clumsiness of a novice, and drop it into a game, it’s only going to look cheesy and irritate players. Don’t you think?

Sounds like a reasonable perspective to me.

>>385017909
But "Orchestra Sickness" hasn't really infected Japan. That's more of a western thing.

>>385017909
>sad music in sad moments is bad
let me blast some dubstep while the protagonist's wife dies

>>385018797
Everything, you retard

>>385017909
>this thread again
Fuck off.

>>385018332
>>385018491
But he's right. The obsession with playing these large "bombastic" sad songs during sad moments is really cliche and just having a soft sad melody, or even no music if the atmosphere is really good, would be infinitely superior.

>>385018838
the problem is that in a lot of games they just use the same generic shit that all sounds exactly the same

>>385017909
>game music hasn't really evolved in the last few decades
Is he retarded?

>>385019013
No that's fucking dumb, if the music is shit it'll be shit, if it's good it'll be good, if the scene wasn't made well then it'll be shit, and if it was made well it'll be good.

>>385018232
I've heard you can get cancer from doing that, don't know how true that is though.

>>385017909

Who he?

>>385018801
Sounds like a gigantic faggot desu

>>385019120
He is right

>>385019120
Are you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ961_Qctrc (2000)

vs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM7PKQNnWEQ (2014)

Orchestra music is needed. Otherwise you get snorefest OSTs like in I am Setsuna.

>>385019372
>Orchestra music is needed
Pleb.

He's right, too many games have orchestral music, especially when they're trying to be sad or emotional. We need other types, every game sounds the same nowadays. It's either orchestral or inoffensive ambient/electronic music. Almost no vidya music is memorable anymore since the 90's/early 2000's.

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>>385017909
>"at the moment"
...did he miss something? This isn't new in the slightest

>>385018801
>I don’t enjoy playing games
And this faggot's opinion matters because?

>>385019126
>hurrr if it's good it's good
What a non-argument

who is glad that every game doesnt have dubstep anymore?

>>385019529
Because he's talking about music you fucking dumb ass.

>>385019529
It's not like he's preaching it out of the blue or anything, an interviewer asked him a question and he answered it.

>>385019529
Surprise suprise,nearly nobody in the industry actually plays games.

>>385019563
Yeah we all know if something's good it's actually shit

What are some of your favorite orchestrated tracks, /v/?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QV3wFRy23cY

Absolutely, orchesta is overused in games right now.

You already made this thread, but i guess you didn't get enough replies last time.
I hope the mods stop being useless

>>385017909
This actually reminds me of a conversation I had almost a decade ago about the two different scores to the movie Legend, the one by Tangerine Dream and the one by Jerry Goldsmith.

The person I was talking to basically said that an orchestral score like Goldsmith's wasn't necessary and was only commissioned because providing an orchestral score to a fantasy film was accepted as the natural choice. He argued that Tangerine Dream's synthesizer-based replacement score was more appropriate because it had a softer, dream-like quality that better suited the film which, compared to other fantasy movies, wasn't as epic in scope.

My response was, yeah, TD's score worked fine enough in most scenes, but when it came to the more dramatic or action-oriented scenes, three guys with synthesizers didn't have the texture and power that a 70-piece orchestra had, and a synth-based score would inevitably fall flat in a film with scenes that called for dramatic flair.

>Is it OK to use an orchestra in an RPG?
Well, yeah, most RPGs have stories and scenes that call for orchestral music. If having sad music play over sad scene is cliche, it's because the scene itself is cliched, not the music.

>>385019643
>missing the point this hard
Nice double-digit IQ you have there.

Of course Japan video game music has stopped evolving for 20 years now because it's already reached perfection, aka Nobuo Uematsu.

>>385019742
Why don't you spam cliche more you pseud

>>385019684
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDOmma4t76s
:^)

I really am obsessed with the actual tune though, wicked sense of humour aside

>>385019684
Riders of the light is much better than this.

>>385017909

Honestly the only time sad music annoys me is when it's a piano and violin rendition of the game's main theme. It happened during every damn emotional scene in Zone of the Enders and I haven't stopped finding it stupid since then.

>>385019529
Because this is a reposted bait thread.

>Last boss
>There's no music
Best thing ever.

>>385019140
You don't "get" cancer. Some moles ARE cancer, a type called "melanoma", and if you remove them like that some cells might end up in your bloodstream and fuck you up.

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lol who the fuck remembers movie music?

I watch a movie for the story, not for the fucking background music. If I want to care about music, I'll listen to an album.

Music sets up the environment and atmosphere while you are playing in a video game, so it's much more noticeable and memorable than in a movie you're just watching and paying attention to what's happening rather to what's playing as background music

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>Sad music plays before anything sad happens
>Music stops

>>385020119
what a fucking dumb post

>>385020261
>le ad hominem because I have no argument

>>385020119
Yeah, who ever remembers Star Wars' theme, or the music from the shower scene in Psycho, or that one from Jaws?

>>385020119
classical and ambient music is also used in movies to enhanced a scene, are you retard?
If anything the idea of using music the way modern games do came from movies.

>>385020294
that's how little you're worth, idiot

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>>385017909
I'm completely aware this is an /a/ post but I was just thinking about this last night when watching Eromanga Sensei.

The show is complete shit for the first six episodes. Part of my biggest problem was the goddamn pseudo-orchestral soundtrack. The main girl has a really soft voice, but for some reason the soundtrack really loves horns and if a scene is trying to be slightly funny you get this wide range of five different instruments trying to compliment the scene with these bombastic wacky sounds but it all it does is completely distract you because it's so out of place. Same with the more "serious "scenes, they'll have the totally full orchestral sweep whenever something even slightly """serious""" is going on and it just makes the whole show painful to watch and unlikable.

I totally agree with this guy, Japan has no fucking clue how to use orchestras.

>>385019820
jesus just stop embarrassing yourself

>>385020325
>Star Wars' theme, or the music from the shower scene in Psycho, or that one from Jaws?

they're all shitty jingles and the original SMB theme is more recognized.

>>385020386
Stop watching shitty shows then you fucking moron

>>385020386
>I'm completely aware this is an /a/ post
It's not. I haven't been to /a/ in years. Fuck off back to your containment board weeb.

>>385020471
nice deflection

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>>385020119
terrible analogy you ignorant faggot
>I watch a movie for the story, not for the fucking background music.
I can see you're a pleb from a mile away
movies are not about story only, is the whole package of the medium, its about characters, dialogue, visuals and of course music.

>>385020119
Music, whether you believe it matters or not, is one of the most influential and important things in media. Even if you're not directly listening to it during a scene, it affects and changes everything you are digesting and understanding about what you're watching. A music's melody, tone, volume, or even absence of, is exceptionally important.

>>385020596
>movies are not about story only, is the whole package of the medium, its about characters, dialogue, visuals and of course music.
The best movies have no music.

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>>385020119
you're so fucking wrong
kill your fucking self millennial

>>385020473
Are you moving the goalpost or are you just some fag who jumped in without following the discussion?
Also
>the original SMB theme is more recognized.
Empty statement that proves nothing.

>waaah why doesn't BotW have the Hyrule Field theme blaring all the time??

This is your answer, fuckos. Music has to fit the ambient. That's why BotW overworld music is just environmental music. It fits the tone of the game perfectly.

>>385019684
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xggWJLgN-Es

I don't know who that fag in OP vid is but if he's gonna diss the most powerful form of music, he should fuck off

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>>385020737
>The best movies have no music.
1/10 made me reply

>>385020119
post memorable music from movies to prove this guy wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_2693735275&feature=iv&src_vid=EaJHFxCYUjI&v=8mLCaXvVPas

>>385020119
"Worst Post of the Day" Award.

>>385020386
>that cover
>that title
Sounds like a case of watching too much garbage

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>>385020953

>>385017909
Those are some disgusting ass teeth

Video game music died when they started favoring streamed music instead of synths and samples, think of how we could have music that seamlessly adapted to every situation in a game, could have little changes like adding/removing instruments and all that while barely using disc space.

I love me some single stage tracks, but where not using the medium correctly.

>>385017909

>70 responses
>nobody mentioning who this old fuck even is

Can at least one anon answer so we can know what his experience is?

>>385021330
like you really need to know who he is to invalidate or aprove his opinion

>>385017909
He's partially right. It's true that the generic orchestrated "atmospheric mood music" has become overwhelmingly prominent in game soundtracks and has stunted creativity in many cases but he's wrong in that there has not been any advancement in 20 years or as /v/ would but it "everything sucks now". The good soundtracks are just rare treats.

>orchestra music in sad scenes is exclusive to games
Is he retarded? Movies do that shit all the time as well

>>385021330
It's Hisayoshi Ogura. He composed for a bunch of Taito games, most notably the Darius series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBpCNRJjHkc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcUckNWFVfI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGVe1AHXuyw

>>385019362
Yoshi ost is very avant garde. You're just too much of a pleb to understand.

>>385020119
Man, most action movies from the 80s were MADE for the OST. I bought plenty of OST to movies. Nowadays. The last real OST that was memorable was from The Dark Knight Rises. I didn't even buy that.

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>>385020119
this is the dumbest thing I've read all day

>>385018332
The problem with atmospheric music is it's in no way memorable. It sets the mood, but accomplishes nothing else.

But hey, you get a +1 for a halfway decent shitpost.

>>385017909
So he wants to remove orchestra music because he assumes videogame designers will find new ways to make us sad without having to rely on it? I don't see how that makes any sense.

>>385025760
What? It's perfectly memorable. Can you not remember what the soundtrack in L.A. Noire or The Wolf Among Us was? What about the foreboding dread of bloodborne? The fucking radio from fallout? Atmospheric music doesn't just mean music that's dreary and subtle, it's music that fits the atmosphere or in other words music that immerses you within the world.

>>385017909
Dumbass contrarian talking bullshit nonsense. He probably regularly shitposts on /v/

>game music hasnt advanced since 1997

how could someone possibly be this wrong?

>>385017909
>lovable protagonist's death scene
>"wrist icicles, ride dick bicycles" playing in the background
makes me cry every time bros