KILL IS FUCKING CONFIRMED

>>385005761
*white phosphorus your path*

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>>385005885

>Reasons you suck : the speech

WE HAD NO CHOICE

I want Walker to get away from Dubai and live a happy life with no PTSD :(

https://youtu.be/0lcMzNKMiHo

That soundtrack tho

I liked this game.

>tfw welcome to dubai

>>385005885
For me it wasn't the end of that scene that made me feel bad. It was the walking through all the dying soldiers. Hear all their agonizing screams made me feel like a big piece of shit.

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>>385006878

>Start of the game
>Says the phase like some badass

>End of game
>"This is MY hell, normies get out"

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>>385007072
>we were helping

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>>385006878
>do you feel like a hero yet?

>/v/ used to unironically compare this to Apocalypse Now

Pretty cringey 2bh

>According to Yager Development, 2K never discussed the chance of developing a sequel during the game's development.[40] Timo Ullman, managing director of Yager stated that the game failed to compete with other shooters, and that market for games like Spec Ops: The Line is too small. As a result, the team would not return to the franchise.[107] Team members expressed a desire to move on and develop a game that has a much lighter tone.[96]

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>when you realize that Walker is getting more savage in combat and slowly begins to go apeshit

https://youtu.be/RIFQzMgYS0I

Always found it funny how Walker never stop blaming Konrad for what was going on, [spoilers] just as anons blamed the game itself for what they did in Dubai. [/spoilers]

>think about replaying this game
>30fps lock

ugh

>>385007505
sauce naow

>>385007574
guys look i'm whining about frames on the internet again

>>385007536

Apocalypse Now is another adaptation of the same novel , Heart of Darkness, most people relate it due to basically being Muricans ruining the shit out of some country while amazing music plays in the background I guess.

In reality both are the "same" story told in different ways with the theme of how war and horror destroys a man until only the demon remains. To compare them as a whole is indeed kinda pointless.

[spoilers] This is the end , my only friend the end [/spoilers]

>>385007574

Playing on PC? Check if you havent lock it on settings, or simply look up the ini file I guess.

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>you have a choice in the story of this relatively choiceless, linear video game because you could have just stopped playing at any time and that's a valid ending
>you have a choice in this non-interactive film because you could have just left the theater at any time and that's a valid ending
>you have a choice in this non-CYOA novel because you could have just stopped turning the page at any time and that's a valid ending
When will you guys please stop with this meme? I genuinely like the game (played it three times so far, still on my HDD as I type this) but please don't pretend that the player purposely leaving the intra-medium story unfinished is a legitimate ending on par with the proper, conclusive endings delivered to you by the writer. As someone else said in the previous thread, it's like saying you can save Romeo and Juliet by simply putting the book down before they die. That's fucking absurd.

>>385009975
I kept reading specifically so those two would die because they're the reason why Mercutio and Tibault died. His comedies were better.

>>385009975
I love Spec Ops, but I agree that the choice to exit the game, really isn't a meaningful choice at all. I think players just gotta accept that you cannot get a good ending in this game.

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>>385005885

Suffering through the shit gameplay was not worth it for the story but worth it for mowing down hundreds of defenseless sandniggers

>>385005761
What kind of game is Kill is Fucking?

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>all those people complaining about muh choices
You're a guest and it says so in the credits, Walker is the protagonist.

Yay, let's have another 400 post baitfest! :D

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>>385007557
I love the game does that D44m thing, where the brutal melee executions gives you ammo, which is fun in D44m, but is fucked up in the context of this game. I delibaretely tried to cripple the 33rd troopers, before executing them, so I got to keep onto those special weapons with scarce ammo longer.

>>385005761
I love this game so much. Its not exactly fun to replay because of the gameplay but one of my favorite vidya stories of all time.

>>385009975
I think the "choice" to stop playing is meant to mock the player, not a legitimate way of ending the game. Which is why I dont understand /v/s autism about it. Its just a linear singleplayer shooter that pokes fun at itself, not a fucking choose your own adventure book.

>>385007554
It's sad that Spec Ops bombed, but this game doesn't really need a sequel. The story has been told.

>>385007648
http://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/1869529#search=Star_Butterfly

>>385011061
I was about to say something about the game not wanting to be played or whatever, but that's actually a good argument against the "LAWL JUST STOP PLAYING BRAH" bullshit because it implies that the events of the game would happen anyway, regardless of the player's involvement.

>>385011474
>Calling DOOM D44m

>>385011474
>D44m
DAAM NIGGA

>>385012443
B-but I wanted to be clear

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>>385007557
>Forcing a shotgun into their mouth and then fire

>>385010518
That's the thing--I don't CARE about a good ending nor do I want one. I'm just insulted by this idea that abruptly turning off the console for a game you paid for and leaving the story in perpetual limbo unfinished with no resolution of any kind is considered a perfectly legitimate ending by the people who made the game and the people who so vehemently defend it online.

>>385011721

As much as /v/ pokes fun at the open world "meme", the board as a whole is all about muh choice, muh branching paths etc. Anything linear is the devil itself. (unless it's by Nintendo)

>Replay the game
>Walker had illusions since the beggining

I think I remember Dubai being physically impossible too, because almost everytime you move you just go down, and everytime you go up there's a fall and some fight soon after. Dunno if this is intentional but I like it.

I love stories of moral degradation and Walker journey in the limbo on dubai its pretty up there when it comes to only videogames, regarless of what selfinserts player agency fags may say, there is a reason why some people felt bad when playing and that is sympathy, being able to put yourself in Walker shit's fuck place. The only place where i say you have an input is when you have to decide to shot the civilians, when i play i press the trigger and say "well Walker you are fucking gone now", not knowing i had another option but in that moment i feel that was what Walker would have done.
The game is a shitty 3rd person shooter i can't denied that, but it did i few things to bring discussion even till today, like who the fuck talks about GeOW now days.

>>385005761
>/v/ remembers this game for the tryhard story
>not the simplistic gameplay that gets boring after an hour of cover and shoot
NEVER EVER take these fucking retards advice on what games to play. Holy shit what a snorefest.

>>385012538
Mate, Doom for original, DOOM for 2016

>>385012691
I know that the writer said it in that one interview. But I don't think the devs ever expected, or wanted the players to stop playing their game to stop Walker. I think it was a dumb way to defend the lack of choice with the phosphorous bombing, which I don't even feel is a problem to the degree people are making it out to be.

>>385012869
I think the only times you noticably ascend in the level design is working your way up the Radiomans tower, and when you meet Konrad.

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>>385005885
You're a fucking monster

>>385005761
Possibly the best Silent Hill made in the west.

>>385005761
Hotline Miami did it better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dzstxE_5Rc

Pretty interesting

>>385009975
This argument is kinda fallacial tho. We all know that we didn't buy a war shooter to be pacific heroes, we bought it to kill people in it and have fun while doing it. That's what the game is saying.

>>385005761
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjdDyvGE8gE

absolute kino

>>385007390
>tfw you and Walker both uttered the same word at that very moment

>>385013445
nah man it's nuDOOM

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Is this actually worth playing or is it a just meme?

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>>385007557
>before and after

>>385014789
play it

it's mediocre gameplay but that's not what's special about it

>>385014789
Its nice enough. Gameplay is repetitve, but atmosphere is top notch.

>>385012095
>its guro
Welp, there goes my boner.

>>385014789
If you aren't bored of chest high walls shooter then yeah.Interesting story, cool level design, great soundtrack, nothing special gameplay

>>385014804
ow, the edge

>>385014789
its a meme unless you like bland and generic gameplay and are a muh story faggot

>>385014789
Gameplay is average, but the soundtrack, art direction and characterization is top-notch.

soo...in the two hanging man who deserved the execution the civilian or the soldier, who did you shot? [\spoiler]

>>385015438
sandnigger, I shot every single possible sandnigger

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>>385015438
Shot Konrad's men in the sides, no one makes me play that kind of game

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>You could have just turned the game off!

And miss out on using white phosphorous? I think not.

>>385013736
That's actually interesting. Nice find.

>>385010901
Majority of enemies were white here
>>385007557

>>385013736
This pretty much explains greatly the flaws and virtues of the game. Good vid.

>>385012538
just call it Doom 4, or Doom 2016 if you never played originals

>>385007557
I loved noticing how the melee animation was changing throughout the game
every time something fucked up happened that was big to the story, I would melee an enemy to see if it got any more brutal, and it always did

really nice understated way to show how fucked up your character was becoming

>>385013736
Love this guy. Watched this yesterday.

>>385014789
Problem with cover-based shooter is that they usually fall into one of 2 categories: ones all-round badly made where nothing seem to work right or ones trying too hard to be original which waters down gameplay.
Spec Ops the Line is rare example where game isn't any of them. Gameplay is fairly generic, but perfectly functional, with pretty much nothing to complain about.

>>385006254
>TvTropes

>>385013672
But later, right?
I should hope things get more refined over time.

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>>385015347
gotta admit, post-apocalyptic Dubai looked fantastic

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>>385018220

Alright /v/, what ending did you choose for Walker?
My favorite ending is choosing all the "virtuous" choices like dispersing the civilians that hanged Lugo, and then have Walker shoot himself once he realized how it was all his fault. It makes it all the more tragic.

>>385014789
Yeah, provided you aren't ACTUALLY the caricature of nitpicking hate and snobbery most /v/irgins pretend to be.

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>>385018308

>>385018308
>>385018220
I love the surreal war art style they went for. The road scenes will all the bodies hanging, the graffiti, sometimes portraying what you've done, one of the best art directions in gaming, in my opinion.

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>>385015008
>itsguro

>>385018312
Walker left Dubai the Army, though God only knows if he'll face trials for War Crimes.

I wish more games made use of sandy settings like Spec Ops did. Dubai looks so damn good.

>>385018312
First time, bullet to the head.
I was caught off guard and was sort of paralyzed by the choice. It felt right to let Konrad count down and accept whatever the consequence.

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>>385007557
>KILLS FUCKING COMEFIREND

>>385018312
"Welcome to the Dubai, Gentlemen."

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>>385007505
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMXE3fulO8g

>>385007390
which is why they were all shooting at the protag

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>Walker killed everyone on Dubai because a few guys opened fire at him at the start instead of talking.

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>>385018823
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jNJYWwAZZ8

Since when does the hi/v/emind like this game?

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>>385018405

>>385015438
both

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>>385019280
heh

>>385019276
Good thing we aren't a hivemind.
Just yesterday there was a fucking chaotic thread about this game.

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>>385018312
>contact
Went for CIA guy. I estimated whatever he knew was more valuable than 2 civilians.
>hangmen
Soldier. Civilians go apeshit and do stupid things when scared. Trained soldier should've know better, and punishment naturally follows.
>WP (not really a choice)
Without hesitation. It was advantage, and odds were aganist us.
>CIA guy
Mercy kill.
>angry mob
Warning shots. That's how you scare off civilians, when they start to forget that you have guns, and they don't.
>end
Surrender. Suicide was never an option, and rescue team was obviously on my side. Didn't even think about opening on them

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>>385019352

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>>385019546

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>>385019629

>>385005885
>tfw you need to use that phosphorus and kill the civilians
I mean, there's nothing wrong with it, but when I hit that humvee with a mortar shell before it stopped near the pit and didn't do shit to him the part of the magic was gone. Even Call of Duty games are less linear.

>>385018659
>I was caught off guard and was sort of paralyzed by the choice

Same here, especially since I noticed what was happening when I was pointing the gun at Walker's reflection.

>>385019280

What does it say on the right?

>>385018312
It doesn't matter what ending you choose since Walker died halfway through the game and the rest of the game is his own personal hell.

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>>385019767
Kurtis fucking sucks!

>>385019629
Do you have a pic of the water truck after it crashed? Walking away from it, then stopping and looking back it was a really well made scene

>>385018821
>he fucks up the quote
"Gentlemen, welcome to Dubai"

>>385019832
There is no man righteous Not one

>>385015008
nothing wrong with a few bruises

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>>385019832
>There is no man righteous
>Not a one
>>385019878
Got it

>>385019767
>Mercy kill CIA
>That shows up
>Let him burn
>A different graffiti shows up of a burned corpse

>>385019832
There is no man righteous, not a one

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>>385020014

>>385018836
they thought you were some crazy mercenaries or murdering lunatics, not dudes from the army trying to help the same people

>>385019515
This is some good taste. Especially that ending.

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>>385019848
nice theory

>>385005761
I watched the whole playthrough on youtube back when youtubers kept their fucking mouths shut.

no regrets.

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>>385020115

>>385020160
Pretty sure they thought you were CIA, and I mean you did finish the CIA's mission for them

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>>385020241
When it was talk about violence instead of sexism

>>385020075
Holy shit i never noticed that, i went through the game like 7 times already

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>>385020327
>tfw died so many goddamn times here on FUBAR difficult

>>385014804
Why burgers look like women?

>>385020212
It's not a theory, it's what the writer of the story has said. The helicopter crash kills them all. You could even interpret that the whole game Walker is dead and going through hell because the second time you do the helicopter scene Walker flat out says "haven't we already done this" or some variation of that and the team are confused by it.

>>385020327
>When it was talk about violence instead of sexism
This game came out well after the "violent videogames" shitstorm.

>>385020425
Why so O B S E S S E D?

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>>385020419

>>385005761
Recommend me another surreal (not horrorshit with jumpscares) game about slowly going batshit please /v/.

Also, about the topic of choice: this game is not about choice and whoever claims it is didn't get the message at all. Did you fuckers not pay attention to the helicopter crashing scene? The game is a desensitizing loop of violence, and gameplay aside, its a masterpiece at that.

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>>385020510

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>>385020590

>>385020531
Parts in Arkham Knight felt like that. Would also like to know more.

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>>385018312
Konrad shot me. I thought he was a hallucination, that nothing would happen, but then Walker fucking blew his brains out. Rewatching the scene I saw that Walker very quickly points the gun to his head at five.

Thanks for all those screenshots, anon. This game is fucking beautiful.

>>385019848
Yes, the game is a dying man's dream. But he decision has value in you think is at fault for the events of the game.

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>>385020710

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>>385013445
>Doom for original
is this a fucking joke?

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>>385020893
That was my favorite part about replaying the game, IMO. With the story done, I could just take notice of the smaller aspects, like the decent into madness, the environments, and the minute color details--Dubai is very colorful when all other Modern Military shooters were just grays and browns

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This game and Dragons Dogma are the most meme'd bullshit on /v/. Spec Ops has shit gameplay and the story is as deep as a puddle. You can't pull off a narrative of "feel bad yet?" when the game is only about killing people with shitty 3rd person cover gameplay. If this game was first person then maybe.

5 fucking years and this game somehow gets threads.

>>385020426
I know that already, a single writer said he himself liked it if the game is Walker's personal hell, that doesn't mean it's fucking true

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>>385020943

>>385020262
You could've been rebels, or CIA or anything. Konrad told them to hold the line, and they decided they just wanted to help the poor people still stuck in the city and in you come waving your fucking cock around instead of asking questions.

>>385020917
>>385019848

Having done a paper on this game I gotta say, saying he's dead invalidates the choices and encounters later in the game. I think the best explanation for the crash is less Walker's problems, and more like the game wanting to start in media res, and having be a jar, a vision of the future, or that while he's fighting in the helicopter he's flashbacking.

I hope this writer gets more work, he really gets classical literature in video game form quite well.

>>385021107
>▶
the only thing that is remotely right is that this game is fairly bad and never exceeds anything past mediocrity.

>>385020949
Why should it be a joke, you goat fucker?

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>>385021165

>>385021139
>doesn't mean it's true
>Walker canonically acknowledges the crash happening twice
It's true. Deal with it.

>>385011539
It's actually really interesting to replay the game.

Not only do you actually see all the foreshadowing and grippy hallucinations you never noticed before, but the Intel you can collect also fleshes out the characters and the lore a lot. I'll never forget Konrad's letters to his son and wife.

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>>385021260
Was there even a man left at this point? Or was he as dead as Konrad?

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>>385021253
take a guess.

>>385021287
>what is 4th wall breaking
It's not true. Deal with it.

>>385007536
It ain't no apocalypse now but you can see similar themes and considering there are references to heart of darkness and and apocalypse now all over the game.

How the hell did your buddies not stop you way earlier in the story after you've told them the team's orders, then proceed to break them and begin to go completely nuts as you talk to a guy on the radio who isn't talking back to you?

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>>385021331

>>385021367
Not an argument.

>>385014804

More like psycho manipulator and psycho

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Some of my favorite loading quotes. They go from super fucking edgy to super fucking deep and I love it.

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>>385021467

>>385007574
>playing on consoles

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>>385021569
I really should have gone back to the title screen after each mission to see how they change

>>385021287
not him and I honestly thought the story was uninteresting overall, but walker is shown to be a completely unreliable person. not too strong a reason to back up your theory.

>>385021346
how many floppies? They're 1.44 MB IIRC, and Doom was like, what, 20 MB?

>>385021456
They were as broken as you were. Before they realized they should turn back and explain what they know to their higher ups, they had gone in too deep.

>>385012789
>the devil itself
you mean Dubai

>>385007554
It was a shitty game with a shitty story. What else was anyone expecting?

>>385007536
>its closer to heart of darkness than apocalypse now

>>385021331
I think the eyes sum it up, really, Walker was done with everything when Lugo died, after that it was just motions.

>we never really find out what happened to our Blackbro

>>385021478
Walker and co are clearly unreliable narrators, and taking anything he says at face value is insane.

>>385021456
Walker was their CO and friend, so listening to him was easier than offering a different way out. And besides, what else were they gonna do

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>>385021662
Now going with loading screens

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NUUUUUUUUUCLEAAAAAR!

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>>385021752

>>385015589
Same

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>>385005761
*makes you see what you've done*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KKbZDtp-mk

>>385011721
>Its just a linear singleplayer shooter that pokes fun at itself
There are games that poke fun at video game tropes. Spec Ops is not one of them. It takes itself far too seriously.

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>>385021839

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>>385021940

>>385015438
I liked that you could shoot the ropes instead, I liked that almost always there was another option that wasn't presented

>>385021684
I don't remember, and they all got thrown out without me knowing. I was 3 or 4 when the game came out and had my dad install and boot up the games when I wanted to play. I knew fuck all about computers then.

>>385021741
He fought to death anon. That's what happened to him.

>>385020491
Its not quiet the same kettle of fish, the is an honest look at how violent means realistically never stabilize things. and how videogames as a whole ignore that. The original shit storm was that 'they inspire violence'

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>>385022008
missed this one

>>385021785
What did the game mean by this?

>dont die
>never see any awesome loading screens

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>>385022092
btw, water

i hate sand

>>385013883

Which is strange to me because how is it unique in that aspect? What war game has ever implied some alternative reason for buying and playing it?

Dunno. I enjoyed the game for the most part (basically ignoring the awful gameplay itself), but I don't really understand the hype around it. The game doesn't make any really profound statements nor does it really have alot to say in regards to social commentary.

Curious what you guys think. Maybe I'm just missing whatever it is that makes the game special.

>>385021367
there is literally a image of Konrad in a publicity in the beginning of the game and other places, the game takes place in limbo accept it

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>>385005761
>tfw didn't get spoilered at all and played it like a run of the mill TPS
I guess I experienced it THE way it was intended and man, it was memorable.

>>385022158
play on a harder difficulty. not that there's anything really to be gained by it, the game doesn't suddenly get challenging by any interesting means, it just makes things more tedious, but you will certainly see a lot more loading screens.

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>>385022158
>>385022179
FUBAR can get annoying at times, but it's entirely manageable

>>385019848
The concept of "the main character was dead all along" is cliché but I think it's what makes most sense for this game. I hadn't considered that narrative before Raycevick's video.

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>>385022347

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>>385022205
Sup walker.

>>385022265

Oh, I will say that the level design and soundtrack are FANTASTIC though. I played it twice just to enjoy the level design and I have the soundtrack on my phone. I bust it out every couple of weeks for long drives.

>>385022179
The amount of subtle hallucaniations throuhout is amazing.
Also Nolan North doesn't get enough recognition for portraying Walker. Easily his best performance. Everyone was fucking great. They got voice actors who really gave a shit and weren't there just to get a paycheck and leave.

>>385022082
Your original post's wording made it sound like you were talking about the culture and the media at the time of the games release but it seems you meant "talk" as what the game is specifically addressing? I'm having trouble understanding your posts.

>>385022319
I played it shortly after release without any real knowledge of it, and I don't see what the hate or appeal of it is.
the gameplay and story is not terribly done, but it's also nothing to praise.

>>385022347
That fucking helicopter evade scene though. Jesus.

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>>385022429

If you look the story without the perspective of conrad talking to the player, and instead to the player character- it still makes complete sense. Walker wanted to be in control of the situation and couldn't accept that he killed all those people in vain- he wanted to be a hero but he wasn't.

>>385005761
so why is the line being spammed like there is a new game coming out?

might as well take it to the retro board, this game is so OLD now!

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>>385022448
Talk about subtle
>>385022510
>get caught 1/4 second
>please restart
>>385022515

>>385022432
>Lugo running at high speeds to escape his inner demons

>>385016321
It makes me sick, familam. The majority of victims of war are women and that's how it should be represented. An entire game where you run around shooting poor defenceless women and taking their bases by force.

>>385019805
but bruh u could of just not played the gaem bruh you excepted teh evil choose so ur the evil LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jV6TnBC2nk

>>385022436
But it's just linear corridors linking slightly open areas filled with chest high walls.

>>385022275
its entirely possible that the moments before Walker awakes from the crash is Walker remembering what happened from his perspective which includes all of his hallucinations such as the hungmen and the radio, while misremembering parts such as the posters and him thinking he's already crashed when revisiting the helicopter segment

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>>385022596
But I think everyone learned about this one afte release

>>385022265

It gives real emotional trauma to the COD soldiers you play as. Why wasn't Soap emotionally damaged from flashbacks of his teammates dying around him?

>>385022510
>Not the railroad truck scene

>>385022448
From what I remember, all the recording was done during a single day, in chronological order. So by the end he was really feeling Walker.

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>>385022715
I already posted this one, but here's a different subtitle

>>385021456
>after you've told them the team's orders, then proceed to break them
Mission plan went to shit right at very start of mission. From that point on, you're in charge, you make the rules until contact is restored. If soldiers trust your instincts, they will follow you even if they know what they do is criminal. They could've abort mission when plan went to shit, but went with "mission is done when it's done"
>talk to a guy on the radio who isn't talking back to you?
They might've assume radio works only one-way and Walker is guessing general's intentions rather than hearing his voice. They didn't see there's no battery, because Walker covers hole with his palm when talking. Stretched, but possible

>>385009975
Why every single thread on /v/ about Spec Ops: The Line always comes with those kind of posts about the WP section? Why always picking on this single part where you have to shoot the turret and kill the civilians in the process?

At that point in the game, if you even had the choice not to kill them, it would create a totally diferent branch, and that didn't happened simply because of budget.

Walking the path you mindlessly destroyed seeing remaining enemies crawling on the ground begging to end their misery is fucking amazing and is just one single moment in the entire game maybe the lowest one in the amazing iconography that can only be achieved if you are competent. The amount of details, hints, hidden messages in that game is breathtaking. SO:TL achieved what MGS did in 1999. Everything in the game excuses the wacky gameplay controls that sometimes makes you get trapped into some section.
This game is probably the greatest performance that Nolan North ever did in videogames, supporting roles and even small lines spoken by some npcs enriches the game atmosphere. By it's gameplay alone, this is just another shooter, but by everything else Spec Ops: The Line is not just another game. You don't need to like it, it is ok to hate it, but you have to play it and finish it.

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>>385022794
Compare it to his face

>>385022275
Mate there are literally dozens of images in this thread of things changing throught the game, graffitis and such, means jack shit
You want to believe the game is yet another "you were in the purgatory all along" meme, do it. Just don't proclaim it's canon

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>>385022794
Speaking of I actually found the scene this face was based off totally accidentally.

>>385022795
I agree, it is a stretch.

>tfw this middle market title did a descent into madness plot-line better than MGSV did

It's as funny as it is sad.

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>>385022794
>>385022885
Also, we've seen the American Angel before

>>385022795
When showing back that initial scene of Walker talking to Konrad, Walker is a bit faraway from Adam and Lugo. It's possible they just assumed they couldn't hear Konrad's answer, only that Walker was talking to someone.

>>385022265
I don't get why people call the gameplay awful, it's not any worse than others in this genre.
You may say that the whole chest high wall regenerating health is a shit genre, but spec ops isn't worse or better than others in it

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>>385022885
>>385022918
>PTSD Mind

i used to feel ashamed for liking this game a year or two bacl because everyone shat on my for saying good things about it
end blog

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>>385022963
Back to loading screens

>>385009975

There should have been an option at various points in the game for the player to get out of Dubai. If the player kept pressing on willfully, the ending would have carried actual weight.

Instead, I'm supposed to think that PRESS X TO CONTINUE DO YOU FEEL LIKE A HERO YET is some deep, poignant shit.

>>385022979
It's full of bullet sponge enemies that make it especially tedious compared to 3rd person shooters with greater lethality.

>>385022951
>descent into madness plot-line better than MGSV did
MGS5 had a descent into madness plotline? Because I'm pretty sure only the trailer for MGS5 did.

The Lugo hallucination actually spooked me a bit

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>>385023043
Repitition is the cornerstone of learning

>>385022475
Yeah that post was turbo butchered, but I wasn't behind the post you were responding to- I redact my response.

>>385022736
>Why wasn't Soap emotionally damaged from flashbacks of his teammates dying around him?

For the same reason Walker can routinely survive the multiple cataclysmic falls and explosions that occur throughout the various cutscenes. Because it's a video game.

>>385011721
>Its just a linear singleplayer shooter that pokes fun at itself
quite opposite, it follows big damn hero tropes just to flip them upside down and give you worst possible outcome rather than best like other games do
Kane and Lunch: Dead Men did the same thing, which iwhy I love the story. Too bad gameplay was steaming pile of shit

>>385022963
AK47.
47 innocent people.
>>385022918
I love Lugo's line here. It's so amazingly strong, the way his voice even cracks.

>>385022828
>Why every single thread on /v/ about Spec Ops: The Line always comes with those kind of posts about the WP section?
Probably because that's literally what they sold the game on.

>>385023062
The game is saying that to Walker anon, not you.

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that soundtrack though
>tfw I'm spending my time along the shore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU6ZTtb4VbE

>>385013736
I didn't even know about the rock thing, that"s super interesting

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>>385023093
What about the multiple times you kill Adams?

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>>385023123

>>385023067
>bullet sponge

Headshots are a OHKO on every enemy except heavies.

>>385005761
HE
TURNED
US
INTO
K I L L E R S

>>385022448
This game gets major points in my book for having squad members that seem like real people- and also are total garbage in combat.

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>>385023342

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>>385023257
>Get game over
>Have to doit again
>It is just a regular soldier this time

Man that got me thinking "did that actually happen, wait of course it didn't"

That was a really cool minor boss fight.

>>385022795

Their information and comms specialist (Lugo) isn't sure how the radio works?

>>385013736
Loved this guy's Halo vids, thanks man

>>385023165
>it follows big damn hero tropes just to flip them upside down and give you worst possible outcome
>Kane and Lunch: Dead Men did the same thing
Like how normally there's a big climactic shoot out, but instead you just get bit to death by a couple dogs?

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>>385023416

>>385023416
>The mannequin on the left actually blinks if you stay in the loading screen for a while

>>385023378
Yeah, and heavies are everywhere.

>>385018981

Completely justified IMO

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>>385023554
wot
>>385023342

>>385020160
That was really the best aspect of the game. All of it, excepting CIA fuckers, is from misunderstandings and a desire to help.

Walker wants to help save American Soldiers after being fired on by some locals who think he is with the 33rd. The 33rd makes the assumption Delta is with the CIA when they come in and rescue them. Adams makes the assumption that the 33rd mean to kill the civilians they take out of the mall.

It is only the malevolent force, the CIA, in the game that has no intentions of helping anyone in the game, yet they accomplish their mission by preying on the motives of misguided men trying to do good.

>>385023514
Except Kane and Lynch was shit.

>>385022979

No way. Gears of War (which I guess could be considered the creme of the crop for TPS) is far less clunky then this game. Better enemy design, better movement and character interaction with cover, etc.

>>385023478
The whole place is built on spare parts. When you get to Radioman Lugo talks about that.

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>that moment where the screen just goes fucking black while you're fighting the mannequin/soldier
Also I'm surprised nobody mentioned how Walker's eyes change during the game. The irises shatter by the end of the game.

>>385023598
That's what I was saying, yes.

>>385018312
I killed everyone in Dubai, therefore it's mine now. No going home.

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>>385023594
>6 screenshots of these screens because all you had was 3 or 4 chesthigh walls and were getting charged on all sides

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>>385023694

>>385022448
When he says "I didn't mean to hurt anybody" during the ending

Nolan North is awesome

>>385023516
pretty shitty place for a tennis court

>>385023594
Yep. Can't find a video, another anon showed it in another thread. Also the mannequin area, when you melee a mannequin, because why not, right before you hit it, it shows a soldier.

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>>385023770
>muh PTSD

>>385022951
what a fucking disapointment of a game that was

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>>385023859
Last loading screen that I've got

>>385023672
You would starve to death if you stayed in Dubai.
There's no food or water source.

Suicide and Surrender are the two best options.

>>385023067
>bullet sponge enemies
literally just MG guys in EOD suits. Everyone else die from 2-3 bullets to chest or 1 to head. Even those special forces guys with P-90s seem barely harder despite wearing full body armor

>>385015438
Did no one else take out the snipers? It's an option but the hanging men die

>>385023954
There's a deer, I'll eat that.

>>385023954
There's a lot of bodies and fires. Something could work out.

>>385023067
>bullet sponge enemies
>you can 1 shot kill a sniper a 1 yards away with your pistol

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>>385021557
>freedom is what you do with whats been done to you
i love it. I've always found existentialism fascinating, especially how it was handled in Buffy the vampire slayer

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>>385023946
What was left to save

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>>385024128
Nothing
Everything

>>385023514
Were there dogs in Kane and Lynch 1? I don't recall them.

>>385024223
They eat you as you try to board the plane at the very end of the game.

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>>385024214

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>>385024123
>Buffy the vampire slayer

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>>385024280
Die in my graveyard
Die amongst the ashes
Die scattered between my sins
Die forgotten and damned beyond all recognition
Die without seeing the face of our God
Die
Die
Die

>>385024260
thats kain and lynch 2

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>>385024402
>inb4 edgy

>That civilian in the very first big firefight that turns a corner and runs at you

How many of you shot him on reflex? Be honest now.

>>385024028
>>385015589

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>>385024493

>>385022628
kek

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>>385024584

>>385024531
I didn't.

The civvies that hung Lugo on the other hand...

>>385024531
I shot every civilian I could on purpose

>>385024260
1. Wrong game, that K&L: Dog Days
2. I just shot them, so I didn't know they can instagib you. Not sure how can you even fail that, you can hear them long before they can reach you.

>>385024531
Here. It's rare for me to play a game and not instantly attack anything running up to me.

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>>385024686

>>385024531

Guilty as charged

>>385024280
And like that...the cycle continues

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>>385024783

>>385024531
Pham, in the first playthrough when I got to the Lugo lynching scene I shot the first sandnigger near my character.

When I realized you could fire a very obvious warning shot I felt really weird.

>>385024531
I remember killing some civies in chaos, but never thought much of that. Shit happens.

>>385024531
hey i was in fire mode, i did go back to a checkpoint later to not kill him because i am a faggot

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>>385024942
You don't think when you're angry
>>385024906

>>385024746
>Not sure how can you even fail that, you can hear them long before they can reach you
No, they don't make any sound until you round the corner. Which is right where they are. They also come from behind you seconds before you're about to cross the finish line.

>>385024783
This and this
>>385021839
Perfectly complement each other. Konrad saves Walker, Walker maybe shows some doubts, thinks he'd be better off at home, starting a normal life, and Konrad says they can no longer go home. They've crossed the Line

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>>385025006
I think I missed capturing a line here

This game was a story telling, cinematic masterpiece. Great fucking thread, maybe the first one in several years that wasn't full of contrarian shit.

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>>385025159
Nope, I didn't
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRTdJYad4Jc

>>385025159
You didn't.

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>tfw you can only get the AA-12 from the Lugo heavy

It's objectively the best gun in the game, but it gets so little use.

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>>385025259

>>385015008
Wow I want to see someone being brutally strangled but I don't want anyone to get hurt! Gee wizz!

>>385025259
After all, you can still go home.
Lucky you.

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>>385025361
>>385025370

>>385025361
I really like how they made Zulu Squad look distinct from the rest. The white lines really gave them the appearance of damned men.

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>>385025460
>Captcha: walk closer

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>>385025560

>>385025659
Don't shoot them Walker, you can still get away from this hell...

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>>385005761
Hello boys, it's me!

Can you help me with my thesis ?

I made a simple survey about the media correlation between Hearth of Darkness, Apocalypse Now and Spec Ops The Line.

>https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfEsvysdidb0TXQdAc0d-b5_xDDyIfMbM1S81zkPCIsSPmq3Q/viewform?usp=sf_link

Pls help me, pls help videogame science to not be only a meme.

>Also, as usual, I'm gonna give you a GOG game for free!

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>>385025952
>

>>385024123
>buffy
good man

>try the multiplayer
>horrid, unfixable mouse input makes it impossible to aim
>.ini files are encrypted
>find out that someone has decrypted them
>fix the mouse sensitivity that way
>shit on everyone online without ever needing to take cover because the game won't let them aim
Who the fuck thought locking configs was a good idea?

The Lugo heavy loading screen if you died always creeped me out

>>385024531
I shot
and i missed.

Did everyone suddenly replaying this because Raycevick made a video?

>>385023193
The fuck are you talking about.

>>385026483

Literally who?

I replay this game every year because it's an incredible story, and a game filled with small artistic details that vary and change depending on your level of observation.

>>385021467
>>385021569
>>385021662
Poor sniper dude, felt so bad for him.

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>>385026027
this part doesn't have a question attached

>>385026508
There does not exist a single review of Spec Ops that doesn't spend most of it's time gushing over the white phosphorous scene.

>>385026571
Some jackass who made "analysis" videos. Recently he made a pretty good entry level video about this game that covers up basically everything good and bad about it.

>>385023514
I'll give you roundup on K&L1 story
>you're on your way to prison for execution, white your last letter to your daughter. Cartel sets you free for one last job
>you get helper and both of you rob bank to recover property of cartel, so they don't kill your family for your betrayal
>your buddy sympathises with your cause, because he also lost his family.
>he loses his shit during the job and slaughters hostages
>later he kills VIP hostage you were supposed to exchange for the package, failing entire mission
>cartel brings your family to execution site, so you can say your last goodbyes
>your wife and daughter hate you, ask why you didn't just die and finally leave them in peace
>as you start spouting apology, your wife gets her brain blowned out. After setting yourself free, and saving your daughter, you bury wife in unmarked grave.
>you attack prison to get your former crew out
>they refuse to go with you, because you already betrayed them once
>they also tell you that Lynch lied. He killed his own family in one of his rage fits, and pretends to not remember it
>after recovering package, you locate base of cartel
>hearing they have your daughter you abondon plan and rush to save her
>mission plan goes to shit, and your crew gets surrounded
>when you manage to save daughter, she refuses to go with you, because now she knows your past
>ending 1 (canon): you pack daughter onboard helicopter, and fly away leaving your men to die.
>ending 2: you pack remains of your team and go to save your men. Most of them is dead by time you get there, and during retreat your daughter gets killed too.

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>>385026673
I wanted to contribute as Apocalypse Now is my favorite movie of all time, but it didn't receive enough support to be considered for completion
Perhaps putting an entrance at $25 and going all the way up to 10k was a little ambitious

>>385026027
Done. Happy to help.

>>385021167

What is "having be a jar"?

>>385025030
I'm pretty sure I heard Lynch saying "Dogs, I HATE dogs", but I played quite a bit ago

>>385025320
some troopers use it in section where you capture water tankers