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Days until Sonic Mania: 20

Last thread: >>384958927

Sonic Mania OST - "Dimension Heist" (Special Stage Music): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLcblxrrE0Q

Sonic Mania Vinyl (special edition color no longer available): https://data-discs.com/products/sonic-mania

Confirmed Zones:

Old:
-Green Hill
-Chemical Plant
-Flying Battery
-Stardust Speedway

New:
-Studiopolis
-Mirage Saloon
-Untitled (Ice cubes, sakura flowers, a cathedral)

THE LEAK IS NOT REAL, LEAKER CONFIRMED IT HIMSELF

Also remember to report people posting unmarked spoilers about bosses and other potential leaks. Please try to get along!
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>>>/vg/
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Time has started to reverse

See you tomorrow, in June
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>>384995487
He probably still believes his Sonic 4 is the true sequel to Sonic 3 and like you said Mania is just some little project to keep fans busy til Forces.
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>>384995634
Sonic 4 hasn't even been mentioned since its release. I'm not an Iizuka fanboy, but we don't need to look for reasons to shit on the man.
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Reminder that "Hydrocity is in the hole" fags are delusional.
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THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING OP? It isn't 20 days, it's still 21.
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time to start posting the essentials for every mania thread.
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>>384995515

What is this generals stuff? You're just asking for trouble if you do this shit.
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>>384995743
>>384995738
it is monday now. it was 21 days on sunday
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I am glad mania isn't Sonic 4 though.

Half the game is reused environments.

That wouldn't be right for a new main game.
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>>384995831
I agree but Mania is still the sequel 4 could only ever wish to be.
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Can somebody just chaos control and make time go faster please?

Thanks
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>>384995576
I don't want to talk about the shitty comics, thanks.
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>>384995897

I still can't believe how soulless this game is.

How they could look at the final product and think " yeah, that's what old time fans want" is beyond me.
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>>384995959
This.
Pretty much the only time I'd wish time would speed up.
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Putting this small information for people who are curious. I won't reveal myself, because of the obvious.

There will be 5 new zones for all heavies that appear, 5 zones for each 5 heavy as like everyone has guessed before, and a 1 new zone without a heavy and without Eggman but a familiar boss instead. The heavies will go rouge, hence why a certain heavy will not appear but a certain boss will appear.

At some point you will face all of these heavies leaded by a missing heavie in a new zone which is the second last zone before the final.

This brings the total amount of new zones to 8, including the final.

I will be posting another snippet of information next week. But feel free to ask me anything about this information.
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PLAYABLE AMY WHEN?
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>>384996234

It's a re-purposed mobile title, that thought never crossed their minds.

What did though was "yeah, that's a game that deserves to be called Sonic 4".
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>>384996346
oh shut the fuck up anon, please.

just stop, you're embarrassing yourself. we've been over this before.
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>>384996346
These Posts Really Make Me Ponder
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>>384996416
I'm a different guy anyways. Besides that, I'm just a guy who leaks shit from SoJ because I already hate those insufferable faggots already.
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Wait

Mirage
Studio
Leak cathedral
sakura flowers level

the fuck is the 5th
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>>384996571
can you get me a job at soj?
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>>384996593
plsbemagicthemedplsbemagicthemedplsbemagicthemespls
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>>384996626
Never work in Japan
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>>384995515
am i supposed to report you for not putting a spoiler on that new stage. follow your own advice
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>>384996691
look up パリ症候群, you probably have it
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>>384996593
>Guy with Magic Hat

I wonder what could be the theme of the level?
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>>384995515
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TOP HAT HEAVY is going to be a spooky mansion level, isn't it?
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I want to slap Tails' shoes.
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>>384995868
CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY THESE
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>>384996756
If that means anything but 'autism' then I doubt it.
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>>384995924
Mania is the REAL Sonic 4 confirmed.
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>>384995868
this makes me so hype
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Anyone else remember the hype levels for Sonic Generations in 2011? Those were some pretty awesome threads on /v/. These Mania threads are bringing back the same feeling.

Let's just not say Sonic is back because monkeys paw made Rise of Lyric and Lost World happen.
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>>384997173
Maybe not back but opportunity is certainly there.
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>>384996593
the leak cathedral and sakura flowers level are both the same zone. they both have the same flowers and the tiles of the floors look similar too. see >>384995986

The cathedral/sakura level is most definitely the ninja star heavy since sakura flowers are japanese, and ninjas are japanese.

the one with the mace is unknown, and so is the magician top hat one.

i think either the mace or the magician will be a castle/mansion level, it could work for either one. no idea what the last one would be though.
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>>384997292
the mace one could be a stormy castle

the magician one could be a stadium in the sky
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>>384997292
The middle one is mirage saloon
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>>384997173
They do feel very much like the Generations hype threads back then as well. Those were good times, as are these. Can't believe it's been so long since then.
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>>384995868
it would be pretty cool if there was non-flat landscape to refer to the half-pipe
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>>384996835
A spooky mansion/castle or a magic circus are my guesses.
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>>384997913
It's not even out yet, nigger.
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>>384997913

Feels unnecessary when the cycle hasn't been relevant in years.
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>>384998158
Forces unfortunately seems to be fitting in the molds
>pictures of friends
>pictures of NEW friends
Getting it regardless, but I'm not sure I like the direction they're taking with this
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>>384998281
Nobody claimed Forces was going to be good, we were all just more interested in where Mania was going.
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>>384995515
>THE LEAK IS NOT REAL, LEAKER CONFIRMED IT HIMSELF
This is exactly what the leaker wants you to think so he doesn't get fired.
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>>384998394
If he wanted that then he would have just not leaked things
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>>384998281
I like how essentially any new characters are automatically designated 'friend'. Unless you're referring to somebody other than Edgefinite.
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>>384998939
The Avatar character
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>>384998939
Yeah, true hardcore gamers have no friends such as me.
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Why Rouge is never happy?
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>>384999445
Looks happy to me.
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>>384998059
So? We know everything we need to know about the game to know that'll be God tier.
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>hydrocity
>has no water
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>>384999157
One-off character, hardly counts to the cast of OCs ironically enough
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>>384999761
>anon
>being a retard
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>>384999741
>YOU DON'T EVEN NEED TO PLAY IT TO KNOW IT'S GR8!!1!

--- t. Marketeer
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>Iizuka was concerned about showing Mania to the public.


has he ever understood his fanbase ?
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>>384999992
No.
>see: Forces
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>>384999887
The devs having pretty flawless track records with making complete Sonic 1, Sonic 2 and Sonic CD remakes with better physics then the originals and with added content/characters/mechanics, so yeah the quality has already been proven cause Mania is on the same engine as those remakes.
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>>385000093
man, are they even paying you to shill this hard?
I just might not buy the game out of spite.
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>>385000262
not him but if that happens, that's on you and you alone
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>>384999887
>>385000262
Not an argument. Keep deluding yourself that Mania won't be good even though all evidence proves you wrong.
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>>385000450
>>385000542
>Samefagging this hard
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>>385000661
adventurecuck pls go
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>>385000661
>still no arguments in sight
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>>384999887
Unless the game has severe performance issues or massive input lag, there's not many ways to claim that it's shit. It's not like you can feel the game, you can only have it respond to button inputs. They've laid down all their cards in terms of mechanics and level design.
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>>384995515
Some pretty interesting names in the booklet.
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>>385000661
whatever you say, pal. just take the negativity elsewhere
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>>384996346
>The heavies will go rouge
I like where this is going
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>>385001005
screencapping.
If the game ends up being shit, I'm going to laugh my ass off.
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>>385001256
Go ahead, I believe what I said and I don't think you're prepared to argue with what I said.
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>>385001256
ok cool.
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>>385001256
Put me in the screencap too. Mania will be fucking amazing.
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>>385001005
I'll eat my hat if mania isn't classic sanic perfection
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Literally the only thing that will be wrong with Mania is that it doesn't have everything these threads wanted. Like Hydrocity or Rosy the Rapscallion. And all things considered, that's not bad at all, just very minor disappointments that don't bring down the game at all.
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>>385001980
>Implying Hydrocity won't be in the hole.
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>>385002110
Angel Island is NOT under fucking Green Hill.

>bu-buh muh anything anythiiiiing
The subtitle is referring to the people making the game and the people it's being made for.
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>>385001980
Hydrocity better be in it or I'll eat my dick off.
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What will it sound like in Mania?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHLaaOSaOY8
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>>385001980
If Hydrocity isn't in Mania I'll eat my hat.
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>>385003020
US ost > JP/EUR ost
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>>385001980
The Sonic 3 rep zone hasn't even been shown yet. And it's probably gonna be Hydrocity.
Or maybe Ice Cap.
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>>385003142
subhuman
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>>385002110
>>385002782
>>385003092
>>385003197
The hole leads to Labyrinth Zone and Classic Sonic games never have more than one dedicated water level (although obviously there can be more levels WITH water).

Hydrocity will not be in Mania. Judging by the sketch in the manual, they probably picked Marble Garden.
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>>385003142
I disagree. Not like it matters though since the Past version is the same in all of them.
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>>385003315
What if the hole doesn't lead to somewhere, but something comes out of it?
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>>385003142
i'll bite.
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>>385003449
Or maybe you have to FILL the hole with something?
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>Labyrinth
>Marble Garden
Are they trying to pick the worst levels from each game or something?
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>>385000091
I don't know, Forces seems to be having a lot of positive response from the "fanbase".
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>tfw the sonic 3 stage won't be launch base
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>>385003686
His over the top edge is adorable. I don't know why people are hating on it. I have Mania for the tone of Sonic I like so I can also be okay with Forces just going fucking nuts.
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>>385003853
>It's going to be launch base zone with a remix of the PC midi track.
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>>384997913

the sonic cycle was never relevant. it existed for like, what, two games? At most?
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>>385003092
No
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FUCK I CAN'T FUCKING WAIT, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN A LONG ASS TIME I'VE BEEN SO FUCKING HYPED FOR A GAME, I WANT TO PLAY IT NOW GIVE IT TO ME RIGHT FUCKING NOW FOR FUCK SAKE
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>>384995804
I'm the guy who started putting the day counter in threads. It's 21.
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amy when
metal sonic when
fang when
mighty when
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>>385004325
>amy when
cameo
>metal sonic when
stardust speedway, obviously
>fang when
mirage saloon boss
>mighty when
nope
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>>385004393
I want them playable, anon
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I have some good news faggots, Guess who is going to be available for the Competition mode?

Hint: It was playable in the time attack of a 3D sonic game
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>>385004465
Metal Sonic?
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>>385003686

But half the Sonic fandom are drooling retards who eat anything up and Forces plays into their nightmarish desires.

Don't know why that is though. The character creator is going to be a barebones selection from like 8 templates you can change the eyes and colors of. They're not going to make their hedgehog fan characters the way they'll want them. The Avatar already looks like a piss poor alternate playstyle and Sonic himself looks worse than Generations. But hey we have an edgelord villain with a linkin park killing theme song.
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>>385004541
It's a Sonic clone basically, same moveset, but yes
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>>385004465
what is the competition mode? same as sonic 3?
I know it's listed as co-op on steam but i thought that would just be sonic + tails
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>>385004641
We don't know exactly but we're all assuming it'll be like Sonic 3's. It'll probably also have Knuckles since Sonic 3 & Knuckles had him as an option. What I wonder is will they let him glide like Sonic 3 & Knuckles had sprites for but never used or what?
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>>385004641
It has Multiplayer as well, specially since the main plot it's about a race to that weird power source, not having multiplayer races would be a crime, especially since it was said that they wanted to make a revamped competition mode in the Sonic 3 & Knuckles port that never came out, it's pretty much confirmed we are getting it.

I hope at least
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>>384995721
IT'S HYDROCITY REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>385004798
>>385004742
maybe it will have sonic R multiplayer racing around the special stages lmao
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>>385000790
Does Advances series count as classic?
What about the 8bits ones?
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>>385004912
That would be pretty sick honestly.
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>>385004968
In my opinion the Advance series doesn't while the 8-bit games do, basically any game before the Adventure/Modern design would be classic to me, maybe Pocket Adventures also since that's in a weird middle ground.
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The zone is the hole is obviously Sky Sanctuary
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>>385005464
The earth was flat all along I knew it
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>>385005464
Vertical wrapping reaffirmed as canon.
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>>385004912
I'd be okay with that, I also hope that Mean Bean Machine will be an option in the Competition Mode.
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>>385005464
So you're saying South Island is floating above Angel Island this time? That'd be cool.
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I want an Arcade racing game with the polish of mania with steam workshop.
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>>385001038
The fuck is Arin doing in there? Are these all shitters that the Mania team are glad to prove wrong?
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>>385006034
Yes, now the Sonic was never good meme is finally going to die and it is going to take Arin to the rope with it.

It's finally over, Mania won
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>>385006034
>Are these all shitters that the Mania team are glad to prove wrong?
No because SomecallmeJohnny is there too.
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>no SDCC panel upload
YOU LIED TO ME MEME MAN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>385006410
At least we got the most important thing from it.
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>>385006483
Jump into the egg orgy
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>>385006483
A glitch showcase would make for a fun unlockable along with some behind the scenes of the team working on the game and office shenanigans.
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>>385006483
YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY
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>>385006483
The best part of this is that the switch wasn't affected.
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>>384995804
The "Metropolis" spinning tubes are just a normal Flying Battery gimmick. They weren't taken from Metropolis.
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>>385004574


The the fact that we'll be forced to play the avatar levels is killing my hype.
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>>385007407
I think he noted Metropolis since we know Flying Battery is in the game & Metropolis had the same mechanic (regardless if it's in the original or not) then it clues us in a level we may not get.
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>>385004465
Thanks doc
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>>385005464
>>385005810

It lines up with the OVA canon!

Get hype!
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>>384995743
What would your reaction be if the special stage controls like Sonic R?
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>>385004020
>it existed for like, what, two games?
Every game since Adventure
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>>385009181
>Every games if you don't count the advances series and Sonic Battle, and Rush, and etc.
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>>385003642
Marble Garden is the best zone in the series.
I swear I'm going to kill you faggots who keep dissing this zone one day.
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>>385005972
they should just get Sumo to make a new outrun without the licensed vehicles
remake outrun 2019 or something
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>>385009181
promising the "return to glory" and suddenly introducing a new bullshit character/feature is the core of the cycle
it only ever really applied to 06 and unleashed, former doing lasting damage to series' reputation
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>>385009331
Only Advance 1 was good out of those
I was talking about the console games though
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>>385009792
This shit's being going on since Heroes
Love how you only mention 06 and Unleashed but neglect to mention the Storybook games btw.
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>>385010139
Main games are the focus of the Sonic Cycle, spin offs don't hold as much weight.
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>>385010139
But the storybook games never looked promising so they don't belong in the cycle.

But that might be me applying revisionist history since I never followed Secret Rings.
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>>385010139
heroes set out to do its own thing and be "different from adventure" from the very beginning, it's as far removed from the cycle as it could be even if it indirectly contributed to its creation through being a subpar title
side games don't count
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So how do you guys think the competitive mode will work?

Exclusive stages again ala S3 or split screen ala S2 with asshole monitors like the switch one? If the later do you think every stage will be available?

Shame that it seems we won't have online for it.
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>>385010732
I'm assuming it'll probably have both S2 & S3 options.
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What if Sonic Mania includes a level editor?
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>>385011591
That would be pretty fucking dope but even if it doesn't I could see people making level mods.
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>>385010732
I want S2 split screen (I still play this with my gf from time to time). S3's competitive was a bit of a let down for me at the time.
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Can someone post the picture of the comic with Sonic getting his head fucking imploded by the arrow?
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>>385011794
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>>385011874
The one shopped together with Fleetway.
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Direct capture version of the special stage. You will be in awe looking at it.
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Clear screenshot of the Special Stage. No more blur.
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>>385012068
>>385012110
woah
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>>385011591
nah I could see them making are retard proof editor for some kind of sequel/followup à la mario maker
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>>385012068
>>385012110
It looks so fucking good holy shit I can't even wait anymore I might kill myself before the game even comes out at this rate
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>>385012068
>>385012110
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>>385012068
This version is less artifact-y than >>385012110
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>>385012364
IT'S ONLY A FEW MORE WEEKS ANON

WE CAN MAKE IT TOGETHER

Fuck I still need to pay off my CE preorder
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>>385012481
I have to find something to play or I might lose it
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>>385012479
Yeah I just saved the jpg-large from the Twitter I got it off of as a jpg. That's probably why.

No big deal though.
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I want to fucc Buddy.
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>>385012584
I've tried to stray away from Sonic games too often so I don't get stuck in a black hole of hype that makes me incredibly impatient for this game.

I've just been playing shit like Dead Cells to keep myself occupied. But fuck me, Mania is going to be all I play after it drops. I have way too much faith in this game but I'm really positive there's no way it can bomb now.
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>Sonic Mania is almost out
>Cleve the nehandertal suddenly become the main director
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>>385012743
Once it comes out I'm going to fill all the save slots with complete playthroughs
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>>385001038
>John Hardin
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What do you guys think about the switch from Archie to IDW?
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>>385012996
Same as I plan to do. That's why I hope Tails getting the emeralds still somehow gives him a Super form or I just might pass on them when I do my Tails playthrough.

If I end up really liking the special stages like I did with CD I might just do them anyway, though.
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>>384995515
I wish we could get a remake of Brad Buxer's music for mania
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>>385012068
>>385012110
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>>385012068
>>385012110
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UNLOCKABLE AMY FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
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>>385012110
>starry night background

DON'T FUCK WITH ME MANIA TEAM, IF I DON'T GET A NIGHT STAGE IN MANIA!!!!! YOU FUCKS!!!

FUCK THIS LOOKS SO GOOD
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>>385013061

I don't give a shit either way until I actually see what IDW's doin

If they bring back Flynn and Hesse then I'm absolutely on board though.
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>>385012068
>>385012110
I'm really digging that a e s t h e t i c
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>>385012068
I can see the UFO now, looks to be carrying the yellow emerald.
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>>385012068
>>385012110
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>>385013916
You are though with Stardust Speedway & Studiopolis technically.
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>still gotta wait a couple of weeks before release
Wowee, I never knew Sonic was this slow
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>>385015360
You take that fucking back

If Sonic heard you say that you would trigger him
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>>385015360
>Sonic cartoon
>all he does is sleeping and bitching like a numale
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>>385015259
Will Taxman be the madman to end all madmen and make Stardust Speedway Past the Act 1 and Bad Future the Act 2?
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>>385016943
>Bad Future the Act 2?
Nah man, it'll be the Good Future, if it was the Bad Future then this would be a Modern Sonic game.
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>>385012068
>>385012110
Fucking beautiful. I wanna see it in motion so bad.
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So excited to see the level transitions, you know we're going to get SO many little sprites that will only be used once but will be so good to look at, Sonic falling, landing on something, curling up in a certain way, things that will only be used in the cutscenes, [ingame ones] and there will be fucking loads because its a 2d sonic game made in 2017.
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>>385017119
>Stardust Speedway is in the Bad Future in Sonic 4
>Stardust Speedway will be in the Good Future in Sonic Mania
Like pottery
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>>385012068
dontgettriggeredthatheslightbluedontgettriggeredthatheslightbluedontgettriggeredthatheslightbluedontgettriggeredthatheslightbluedontgettriggeredthatheslightblue

TRIGGERED, FUCK. I feel like fucking chris-chan and blue arms but god damn it. MY HEAD CANON.
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>>385012736
Don't molest the OC, please.
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>>385016450
Feel like I'm in Hype Zone Act 20 by this point.
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MAP ANON

FINISH IT! I DARE YA!
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I wonder what the secret hard boiled heavy will be-- OH.
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>>385013061
Hopefully they keep Flynn to write it, whoever did the art for the recent mainline comics and Tyson maybe as well. I'd pretty pretty fine with it then.
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>>385012068
>>385012110
>chunky low poly model and pillars
>pseudo 3d racetrack
>sprite objects
>surreal aesthetic
It looks just like an early 3d saturn game, how the fuck did they do it?
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>>385012068
>They picked the worst special stage instead of blue sphere

Hype dropped. I expected better from Taxman after you fuckers hyped him so much. I don't understand the CD wank, that was the worst 2D Sonic
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>yfw you realise Aaron Webber is one of the progenitors of a brand new style of brand marketing through social media -- he even won a Clio for it
How long until the boys on Madison Avenue put together whole consulting departments to shitpost like he does in-house?
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Literal official art by an official sonic artist
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>>385017972
I want Spaz to stay on to do the occasional cover. He may not get classic Japanese Sonic's look quite right but he draws the perfect AMERICA FUCK YEAH ACTION COMICS Sonic and friends period.
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>>385018083
It's a mix of all of the special stages though?
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>>385018131
https://twitter.com/KenPenders/status/889166536887238656
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>>385018083
It isn't the CD stage, though.
(You)
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>>385018131
Why is it still allowed to draw Sonic in the first place? I though using OC from others without their permission was bad??
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>>385018193
I need to learn the artists better. When I see a page of a more recent issue, it's the art style I like more then any of the earlier stuff. They draw expressions and hands really well IMO.
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>>385004574
Anon, maybe there's just Sonic fans who like something you don't.

>Sonic himself looks worse than Generations
How, when the Boost is done far better in Forces?
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>>385018131
>artist
misspelled autist there champ
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>>385018083
>sonic cd is the worst
shit taste
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What's this hole everyone is talking about? Can I see it?
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>>385018523
I want to see your hole, Am-- go look at GHZ2 boss fight, watch what happens when the boss explodes, that hole.
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>>385018523
Watch a video of Green Hill Act 2. When you beat Eggman, his mech leaves a hole in the ground and falls in.
What's in the hole? Aside from Eggman's broken mech.
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Everybody saying nothing, everybody saying another level, ITS NONE OF THEM. You're all wrong.

Eggman will rise out of the hole in a bigger mech, guaranteed Look where he fucking falls, HE FALLS IN THE HOLE. .
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>>385018523
This hole to the left.
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>>385000091
I don't know about you anon, but I'm not exactly angry with Sonic Forces. Hell, I'm hyped for both it & Mania.

>>385018523
For some reason, people think Hydrocity is gonna be in the game. Highly doubtful though
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>>385018779
>Highly doubtful though
Explain.
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>>385018716
the hole is just a chaos garden. Nothing more.
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>>385018814
Green Hill and Hydrocity are on different islands.
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>>385018779
Why would it be doubtful? It's a fan favorite zone. With it they wouldn't need to make a new zone a water zone, which is win-win on their part.
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>>384998158
>>384998281
>>385004020
Its' just been updated to fit with the times. Look likes Forces will follow this version.
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>>385018871
So? Who says it needs to be right after Green Hill in the hole? Hell we don't even know how each level is going to transition to each island/planet each game took on yet. And if we're directly thinking of the hole we don't know if something comes out of it as opposed to going into it.
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>>385012736
Do not molest my Fursona.
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>>384997969
The background of the Dimension Heist video linked in the OP implies that courses might be non-flat.
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>>385018083
It's not 1 for 1 a copy of CD's special stage faggot. It has elements of Blue Sphere and UFOs but uses them to create its own unique thing. Also UFOs are second best special stages behind Blue Sphere.
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>>385018997
>Looks likes Forces will follow this version
Doubt it. Classic looks mediocre (although it we've only seen his first level/bossfight), but the Avatar stages looks fine & Boost looks fun.
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>>385016943
>>385017119
>>385017345
>two exits
>high route signpost leads to good future Act 2
>low route signpost leads to bad future Act 2

Will he do it?
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>>385018724
Or you know, he just runs right and continues on his way ignoring the hole.
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>>385019191
Knowing Taxman, he probably thought about it.
I just can't imagine what they've done, they've shown barely anything.
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>>385019259
Somebody hasn't watched the footage.
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I'm not the only one who isn't amazed by the way the special stages look, right? They look like a clusterfuck.
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Alternate exits won't lead to future/past or good/bad... They'll interconnect the different zones.
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Guess who it is fags
Anyways 2 things: first of all, I fucking dropped my tripcode since I realized it's a fucking stupid thing. Second, I'm not going to be as frequent now. Take that either as a good or bad thing, surely you'll say that's good. Anyways, here's daily pasta.

Daily reminder that if you strongly hate Mania or anything related to it you are either a subhuman fucking pleb or a retarded Adventurecuck, faggot.
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>>385019047
That's why it's merely doubtful, rather than impossible.
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>>385019334
They look like a straightforward chase to me, bro.
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>>385019259
I'm not saying he doesn't go off the cliff instead but Taxman specifically mentioned the hole the boss makes: >>384995924
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Wow the Special stages look like fucking garbage, it is literally a mash of all the classic ones, but what can you expect, we were told it was going to be all rehashed content, so whatever, maybe I will pirate it if I feel like it
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>>385019412
whatever
just quit posting that damn cat
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>>385019334
Really? You're just chasing the UFO to get the emerald and everything is low-poly 3D like Sonic World in Sonic Jam. We haven't seen it in motion yet either so who knows.
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>>385019476
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>>385019327
Oh yeah the cliff, how'd that guy manage to die on the cliff?
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>>385019047
>>385019419
Nevermind, I'm a faggot and misread. I thought Hydrocity coming after Green Hill was what we were talking about. That's what is highly doubtful.

It's highly likely that Hydrocity is in the game, at the very least.
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>>385019476
>shitposter_learning.exe
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>>385013061
>Sucks that so many people that were doing a fine job lost their livehood.

>Sucks that SEGA is probably going to be more controlling than ever about the comic.

>Curious about what can IDW do besides retelling the games, they'll run our of issues at some point. I don't want them to become Boom2, we have Boom for that.

>Worried about the artists they might hire, my experiences with IDW fluctuate a lot.

>Despite the fact that I liked the latest Archie issues, I still consider most of the Freedom Fighters cancer and I'm glad that there is a big chance they won't be coming back besides maybe as background characters.

>WHEN'S MEGAMAN?
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Sort of wish we could of gone past/future to all old zones we're revisiting. Future/OLD GH. or Chemical plant, or OH god flying battery, would be god tier
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>>385019476
We've yet to actually see it in fucking motion, anon.
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>>385012068
>>385012110
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>>385019556
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNk_McAdsqE

>Bait Zone Act 1's theme
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>>385019618
>For future games Sonic Team actually works with IDW to create supplementary material and side stories
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>>385019728
That would add like an extra year of dev time making all the new graphics. Having it (hopefully) in Stardust Speedway will be enough for me.
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>>385019795
Sally ingame finally?
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>>385012110
>people don't realise how good this is

they have somehow recreated the PERFECT aesthetic of a saturn game, but... almost done it better? give these people all the emeralds, now
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>>385019790
Fuck that shit during the ending, it got me good. Why have the beginning sound like that & then go to Sonic 4's trash music? It irks me so fucking badly.
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>>385019728
that means way more work for the artists and composer in particular
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>>385019795
Well the statement did say Sega was gonna be more involved with the comics now.
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>>385019790
jesus fucking christ I have never undestood the word TRIGGERED until now

when that turned into Sonic 4 my body did a fucking backflip out of disgust JESUFUCK BLEH GET IT AWAY FROM ME
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>>385012110
Looks good. It's not blowing me away, but it looks like it could be a fun special stage.
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>>385020054
This is beyond unfair, and all that shit was the work of a retarded autist that wanted to sell fanfics.

How is that EVEN possible? Is there really people that actually bought his OC crap outside archie?
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>>385020063
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Shut the fuck up nerds, based Ken Penders went ahead and crashed and burned the entire Sonic comic series that was a complete cancer to /sthg/ and that had like 1000 oc's that sucked dick.

Ken Penders is /ourguy/
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>>385020357
Never underestimate the mental gymnastic power of an autistic man who loves a female echidna OC he made and will fight tooth and nail for.
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>>385020562
Shut up, Ken
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>>385020357
If Archie hadn't been bad at contracting, (some tax shenanigans there, I'm sure) they'd still have the license.
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>>385020562
I wonder who could be behind this post
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>>385020880
Never fails to make me smile. Tyson's a good boy.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qKh-5msybk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBITnBK2zCg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Vp5aMPAUYQ

RIP. Maybe one day, boys, I'll never forget you.
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>>385020880
It's telling that Penders is the only one who didn't use a pen.
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>>385020880
I'm so glad they picked Tyson, his style is fucking perfect.
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>>384995868
CAN YOU SEE THE SUNSHINE INNER ME
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>>385020880
Heese
Stanley
Ziggyfin
Penders

Heese does a really cute Sonic
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>>385020880
Based Tyson.

I'd love a whole game made in his artstyle. Maybe add a "switch style" option like Wonderboy did to appease the turbo autists.
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>>385021179
>Sonic 1, but done in hand drawn graphics by Tyson
Instant buy.
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>>385020818
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>>384995868
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wckFsik_vU8
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>>385020991
What're you going on about
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>>385021286
That is the face of a wise man.
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Hesse just gets the character, he just UNDERSTANDS SONIC. 1/7
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>>385021295
that's what I am hoping it will play like
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2/7

This is my headcannon
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3/7
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>>385021380
He knows how to make him cute-cool. He knows how to make fun of him in a loving manner. He's great.
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>>385021461


1zxrsacmaerD?
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>>385021568
He knows how to make Sonic cool, without actually saying a single word. Sonic doesn't need to say WOAH THIS IS HAPPENING to be cool, he should just BE cool in his actions.
4/7
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>>385021556
I LOVE his Robotnik
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5/7
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>>385021461
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6/7
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>Hard boiled heavy theme sounds more like special stage music
>special stage music sounds like invincibility theme

TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>385021568
he can emote the character without any dialogue, the most important thing
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WHO?
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>>385021653
>Sonic doesn't need to say WOAH THIS IS HAPPENING to be cool
That I agree with. I never had a problem with Sonic having a voice & I honestly liked Ryan's Sonic, but Sonic can be cool through his actions, too.
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>>385021859
His Knuckles is great too. He's an idiot, but not too stupid. I love the expression he gives him.
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and of course, Heese's MAGNUM OPUS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIgOcFIo0kE
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>>385021945
Amy Rose AKA: Rosy the Rascal
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>>385021859
Hesse Knuckles is best Knuckles
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>>385021945
>Sonic's I'm not sure if I want to fuck this hedgehog but I'm considering it face at the top

I am dying
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>>385016610
>>385016848
You seem to forget that Sonic likes to take things chill too.
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>>385021945

>that face in the bottom left
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>>385021945
What do you think?
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>>385021770
>sleeping tails

I WANT TO SNAP HIS FUCKING NECK HE'S SO FUCKING CUTE HOLY SHIT KICK HIM
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>>385021945
He draws the best Sonic, best Tails, best Knuckles, best classic-style Amy and best Robotnik.
Why the fuck doesn't he draw all the comics, hell, just art for the games. I'm really excited for his big break with Sonic Mania's OP animation.
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>>385022187

context for it
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>>385022270
How does his modern Sonic look? Because if it's as good as his Classic, he should definitely draw the comics. Or at least, make Mega Drive a side-series & have him be the artist for that.
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>>385021945
>>385021859
>>385021770
>>385021653


You now realise you're about to experience on the 14th of august a fully coloured, animated, 90s music video of this artist, doing Sonic the fucking Hedgehog.

Hype thrusters, engage, we're going into the warp zone
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>>385018131
>>385018208
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>>385022483
My dick is so ready for more of this right here.
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someone's planning marriage again
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>>385019412
If you want to be even the slightest bearable you should drop the nameposting and just do avatarposting.

We don't need either a trip or a name to recognize your posts.
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>>385022483
Do I watch it on the 14th or wait until Mania comes out and watch it there? You gotta help me decide guys
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>>385022483
I literally cannot wait to see Mania's opening animation. It's gonna be SO GOOD.
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>>385022629
I'm like a fucking crack addict on hype atm anon, I'll break and watch it 14th
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>>385022629
You'll be more hype on the 15th about the game if you wait & turn on the game just to see for the first time that beauty start up.
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>>385022483
If Boom S2 is gonna be is last season, I hope SEGA does another cartoon with him as the artist.

>>385022629
Watch it on the 14th, then rewatch it when Mania drops. Simple.
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>>385022386
Someone should commission him to draw the "modern" look of the cast seriously instead of jokingly.
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>>385022591
OY VEY
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>>385022603
against the rules
that's a paddlin'
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>>385022591
More like she's gonna roofie his next chilli dog.
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the Next Sonic Mania is
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>>385023063
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i love that mania is gonna have an opening FMV

i kinda hope that they figure out a way to make it look traditionally animated like sonic cd
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>>385023063
I'm looking forward to actually seeing a real zone in this engine instead of just the Green Hill testing area. Didn't they say they had something for the next SAGE?
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>>385023063
a SonicVania
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>>385023175
The trailer animations looked pretty traditional looking.
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>>385022878
I think he'd do a great version of the Modern cast, especially if hes able to have them be as expressive as he did the Classic cast.

>>385023063
>>385023147
Eh. It looks fun, but I'm not too big on how spacious it is. Not to mention, Sonic looks a bit too small here.
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>>385023209
SonicVanilla?
Badass!
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>>385023063
SAGE fucking WHEN?
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>>385023287
SonicChocolate
Even better.
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SONIC

DEAD OR ALIVE

IS M-M-MINE
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>>385023063
>>385023147
Man, I fucking hope, I feel like Utopia has so much potential to be something great.

>>385023276
>but I'm not too big on how spacious it is.
That's just because it's a demo mostly focused on testing Sonic's physics & controls, they've stated the actual levels won't be that spacious.
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>>385023385
I love how every bad future theme in the JP OST sounds like an industrial rave.
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>>385023373
who the fuck is a chocolate?
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>>385023063
>Hiring Lange
It would be Sonic Xtreme level dev drama.
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>>385023063
>>385023147
>muh Open World
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>>385023408
Good. I like how Sonic's finally getting great 3D fangames, between GHP & Utopia. If Mania leads to SEGA bringing more fans on board to help work on the games, I could totally see SEGA having someone like Lange or SS68 doing a 3D game one day.
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>>385023485
Is there something you know about that dev that I don't?
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>>385023351
sept 30
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>>385023385
YOU CANNOT DO ANYTHING, SO DON'T EVEN TRY IT. GET SOME HELP
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>>385023482
knux
Chaotix 2
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>>385023571
DON'T DO WHAT SONIC DOES

YEH, WE OUTTA HERE
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>>385018131
I've been laughing at this all day.

Ken Penders is a human disaster and I love everything he does.
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>>385023385
don't do what sonic does.
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>>385023385
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTWnxQD5_sw&t=731s
DON'T DO WHAT SONIC DOESI think that's what it says
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>>385023732
His shit reminds me of Revolution 60.
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>>385023385
what was your reaction when you found out that it was an inversion of the opening theme
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>>385023885
It is? The only thing that makes me think that when listening to it is "you can't do anything."

If it is, holy shit, pure caneo, if that's the term for music-kino
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>>385024139
>'cause if you try, you can do anything
>you can't do anything, so don't even try it
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>>385018131

isn't this the bucky o hare guy
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>>385018131
FUN IS INFINITE
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>>385023885
>>385024139
>>385024240
I feel so slow for not noticing this, CD's JP OST is already my favorite enough, this just makes it cooler than it already was.
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Next OP should be this.
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>>385018208

>those comments

holy shit
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Couldn't be a Sonic game these days without 3D shit getting in the way
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>>385024534
>3D shit
A) It looks good, B) There's nothing inherently wrong with 3D Sonic.
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>>385024474
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>>385024469
If the two soundtracks were standalone OSTs, I would prefer the US one more because that shit is just right up my music alley. But in context of a Sonic game, JP is a much better soundtrack for it. Both are exceptional, both of them are up there for my favorite soundtracks of all time.
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>>385024534
When has a Sonic game NOT had 3D shit in it?
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>everyone drools over Stardust Speedway Bad Future's music
>Present music is completely forgotten despite being funky as shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21ZSrPIFETg
I just wish it looped better
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>>385024789
Sonic 1
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>>385024668
L-LEWD!
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>>385024534
Reminds me of Sonic R

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSMK7b7DLrE
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So how far have you all gone with Mania? Did you all just pre-order/waiting to buy the main game? Get the Collector's Edition? Get the vinyl (and what version?)? Both? Personally I'm getting both.
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>>385024889
As long as it doesn't control anything like it.
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>>385024838
I like Past and Present the most.
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>>385024534
Are you just too thick in the skull to notice it's supposed to be a recreation of crude Saturn-esque 3d graphics?
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>>385024838
>>everyone drools over Stardust Speedway Bad Future's music

people need to drool over the actual drool-worthy version instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRcR0v6I_w8
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>>385008392
why hasn't a fangamefag made a Sonic game based on the OVA?

hell, just hack CD and do all that.
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>>385024789
That looks so fucking good, where did you get that? is there more?
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>>385024984
You bet your ass it will to add some challenge.
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>>385025008
Same
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Psh, as if Sonic R can't be beaten legit in a couple of hours by literally anyone.
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>>385024961
I'm holding out in case of surprise Denuvo.
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>>384995515
>Stardust Speedway

I want to see what they'll do with that stage. Other than the race at the end, it was rather meh.
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>>385025071
that "stardust" makes my weenie tingle
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>>385024534
Low poly is based. I'm really happy they're making this game as if it were actually made on the Sega Saturn. A 3D low poly special stage would have been exactly what they would have done.
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>>385025312
Every single fucking time I listen to it I've gone through the extended version of the song like a dozen times it always resonates with me.

speedwayWAYWAYWAYWAY
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Starlight Zone when?
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>>385025265
>Other than the race at the end, it was rather meh.
Really? I feel the other way around.
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>>385025008
>>385025194
Same here.
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>>385022312

I love Amy when she's characterized well

So, basically just Adventure and the flynn comics
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>>385025071
I might like good future more now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DYZX74qgFQ&t=784s
I never heard it until recently since I never went to good future in sonic CD for that stage
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>>385025637
What about boom?
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Who else plans to hotglue their physical edition when it arrives?
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>>385022629

I seriously think I'm just gonna shut off my computer on the 14th, spend the day playing some games or some shit and go balls in on the 15th.
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>>385024534

Wait, that's the special stage?

Fuck yeah that looks incredible, but now I'm mad I clicked this thread even though I've been on black out for weeks.
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>>385024961

got a copy for PC and Switch, CE and Vinyl

I've done my part
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Official thread theme
https://youtu.be/uM9fReW-hoA
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>>385007407
Things that are wrong : the post
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>All those anons saying Naka was upset about Mania
Yeah he sure is steaming.
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>>385025489
Stardust speedway is a bunch of tubes and springs put together and like 30 sec long
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>>385025902
Yeah, Mania had a panel at SDCC a couple days ago & they showed off a few things when it comes to info and even glitches during development. Read >>384995743 if you want to know more. There's no full recording of the panel uploaded anywhere but this twitter retweeted multiple bits of recordings others recorded:
https://twitter.com/SonicNewsNow
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>>385025071

The only US CD song better than the JP one is Tidal Tempest
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>>385026172
what? why would anyone say that?

if anything i'm sure he's happy that people enjoy the physics in his games so much to the point where autists have gotten it down to a science
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>>385026172
I thought he was a skinny dude not a fatass
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>>385024961
Preordered PC CE, (would have gone Switch, but NO CART, might double dip digital).
Got SE Vinyl.
Sucks no SDCC manual. Unless they change their minds?
Really want that 90's pop-art con-exclusive poster for Mania.
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>>385025994
fuck, that's my OTP
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>>385006034
>>385006186

I thought arin liked 2D sonic
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>>385026172
S
E
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H
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>>385026346
no man you just like, go
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>>385024961
Pre-ordered the Collector's Edition, and I'm kind of considering buying a second one to keep sealed.
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>>385025321

You mean it's exactly what they did.

I kinda want to replay 3D Blast to see if it's as bad as I remember but I dunno if I should just throw the genesis version on my everdrive or pick up a saturn copy
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>>385026212
And the race is either jumping to the high platforms or jumping over ramps/spikes/Metal when he charges if you stay on the bottom.
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>>385026346
Arin's said that Sonic has never been good.

>>385026172
>Thinking Naka would hate a game of the franchise he's helped create
Yeah & SoJ hated the Freedom Fighters
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>>385025780

Forgot about Boom, yeah she's pretty good there too.
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>>385005972
Something must be done.
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>>385006034
the place he works is across the street from sega and they have cupcakes together no lie
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Some people heard Lizuka say that Mania is shit and that Christian is a faggot. Seems like he is really angry
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>>385026528
Yeah, CD as a whole is pretty underwhelming seriously
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>>385006410
good
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>>385026172
He's probably happy to see his long lost child finally getting the love he deserves instead of being fucked behind the dumpster and treated like shit by Iizuka, I cannot believe Izuka was "nervous" to show off Mania in comparison to Forces, I seriously hope he fucks off or straightens up when he sees the Mania sales in comparison to Forces and gets a wakeup call.
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>>385024961
Gonna pre-order the vinyl at some point, but I already have the CE on deck.

That statue's gonna look real nice.
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>>385006034
naoto ohshima seems to fucking LOVE sonic mania dude

he directed sonic cd so apparently he had a big smile on his face when he saw that stardust speedway was in
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>>385020054
>Well the statement did say Sega was gonna be more involved with the comics now.
get ready for more Iizuka bullshit
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>>385026172
>autists have decoded the hidden physics in your games transformed >international team is preparing to perfect them into a quantum theory of speed
why would he hate classicfags
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My dad who works at Sega said Izuka is a fursuiter who humps all the figuines in the building.
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>>385026726
Calm down already, holy shit

>>385026882
SEGA's already mandated the hell out of the comic when it rebooted. Nothing else they can really do.
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>>385026804
I'm happy for him, he's even going out of his way to draw stuff for it.
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>>385019790
>"Oh shit Live and Le-"
>it's actually Sonic 4's theme
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>>385027107
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>>385026726
Izuka thinks way too much about the common consumer rather than actual Sonic fans most of the time. He was probably nervous because he had no idea how people would receive the game after Sonic 4's messy reception without realizing that Mania was literally everything people wanted out of that game.

People love retro-styled games nowadays. They ate that shit up back then and they'll eat it up now. It brings out the inner child in people and it makes them excited to relive something they enjoyed when they were younger. Sonic 4 tried to do that but it also tried to be something new at the same time, so it was kinda rocky. Still not terrible, but just pretty rocky.
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So I was in the Japanese 2ch Sonic thread yesterday they said that Iizuka went on there and said he's been slipping poison in Christians drinks whenever he can for a while now, he said he is making sure he wont live to see Mania release.
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Your daily reminder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04nBdQU9rbc

"We have a very rare opportunity to work closely with Sonic Team, especially Iizuka-san and Oshima-san, and they've been providing us a lot of guidance through the process and so, they're making sure we don't go off the rails and do something that doesn't feel like Sonic."

>make sure we don't go off the rails and do something that doesn't feel like sonic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn6uqp_mr98 [Embed]

ratever u do, don't go to far mania team ok? I dont want u making my game rook bad

*steals drop dash and puts it in Forces*

Somebody, please, we need to stop lizuka.
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>>385027473
Let me add onto that reminder.
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>>385027473
Reminder that these are the same kids that were hyped for Rise of Lyric until it turned out to be a glitchy mess.
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I saw Iizuka at a grocery store in San Diego yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.

He said, “Oh, rike you’re doing now?”

I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.

The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.

When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any erectrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
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>>385027473

let him steal drop dash, let him put green hill in his game at the same time as mania, let him reuse classic sonic in 3D again. it all just gives easier parallels so we can see where one game is a massive success at doing what the old games did while the other fails miserably.
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>>385027548
The kids that Iiuzka is pandering to don't care.
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>>385027473
>>385027548

Izuka means well but holy fuck does he not really care about what works and just wants to experiment with Sonic all the damn time. Like fuck, you had a great track record with Colours and Generations and then you decide to throw that all out the window for Lost World.

Izuka is fucking weird, man.
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>>385027638
this pasta makes me chuckle everytime
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>>385008541
if its the pc/gamecube version I'd be really happy.
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>>385027650
I know & couldn't care about that, I just find it hilarious still that happened during E3 & he thought that.
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>>385026172

that's a rare miyamoto
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>>385027107
It's nice seeing that the people that worked on Sonic in the 90s are showing love to the game.

>>385027473
>steals drop dash and puts it in Forces
Forces has been in development much longer than Mania. It's much more likely the drop dash was in Forces first.

The amount of people acting like this is some feud between Mania & Forces is fucking pathetic, tbqh. This isn't a competition between the Mania team & Iizuka's team. Both sides are working together to make Sonic games, because both sides love Sonic. Iizuka has some awful ideas & experiments way too much, but at the end of the day he wants Mania to do well, just like Whitehead's team likely wants Forces to do well. Stop this autism, please.
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>>385023209
>IGA does a sequel to Tails Adventure
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>>385027432
wat
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>>385027928
>Forces has been in development much longer than Mania. It's much more likely the drop dash was in Forces first.
Read >>384995924, Taxman & the rest of the Mania team suggested the Drop Dash.
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>>385027928
I agree but you're wrong about drop dash.
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>>385027548

he was concerned about showing it off because taxman was doing such a good job that he was afraid of being upstaged
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>>385027928
>>385028310
Yeah dropdash was confirmed all Taxman
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>>385028247
Maybe Izuka saw it and thought it was a good idea?

Christian said that it was an idea by the team because they wanted to give Sonic a move that separates him from Tails and Knuckles. He probably wanted it in Mania because it made Classic Sonic feel a little more stand-out.
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>>385028247
>>385028310
>>385028436
I stand corrected then. Either way, it looks like it works in Forces, so I'm fine with it being there. The rest of my point about this whole Mania vs. Forces nonsense still stands.
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>>385028332
What's that actually from? It reminds me of the X-treme model of Fang.
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>>385026443
decide on which soundtrack you like more -- I'd say Genesis, but that's me
also, the Genesis version special stages suck

you could just use pseudosaturn and burn a copy
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>>385025265
stardust speedway is such a cool looking stage, but it's such a total mess
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>>385026443
I meant what they would have done in a brand new original Saturn game.

3D Blast Saturn stages are good but it's still just the halfpipe again.
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>>385024838
https://youtu.be/M8dWYAqonus?t=2
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>>385028568
It's literally his model found in some build of xtreme
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>>385028884
Oh, I didn't know those were extracted ever. That's pretty cool.
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>>385028679
You could say that about most of the levels from CD desu
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>>385028961
>You could say that about most of the levels from CD desu
You know what, I fucking will.

...but Stardust Speedway was super disappointing in particular after seeing screenshots of it for years before actually playing it.
in fact, I'm willing to say that even Chaotix didn't disappoint me so much (the stage design in that game is just impossibly bland rather than an active mess)
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>>385028332

When I think about it Sonic the Fighters is a very interesting time capsule for the franchise

>Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Eggman
Pretty similar to this day, the main core of the series
>Amy
gone through radical changes but ultimately same as above
>Metal Sonic
basically only exists as nostalgia fodder these days (though considering just how many sonic games are about nostalgia rather than doing something new that still means he's in like every game anymore I guess)
>Espio, Fang
part of a side-series that doesn't really exist anymore, may get the odd cameo or two but that's it
>Bean, Bark
basically totally forgotten, new characters for the series in a time when sega was still willing to expand rather than try to contract its roster size due to people whining about "Friends"
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>>385028484
That is more than likely what happened, I was just pointing out how the Drop Dash was made for Mania instead of Forces originally. Honestly it'd be weird if it wasn't in Forces at all, they're both Classic Sonic after all.
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>>385029190
I wanted to play CD for years and bought the windows version when it first came out and I still remember the let down that was.
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>>385018083
>>They picked the worst special stage instead of blue sphere
But they didn't pick the rotating maze.
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>>385027548
Is this supposed to mean something other than E3 is filled with adult gamers and press that grew up with old school Sonic and prefer the classics?
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>>385029354
>basically totally forgotten
At least they are acknowledged in Mania & were acknowledged in Generations.
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>>385029650
Why was Bark always associated with Bean and Fang? When did he ever shown signs of a criminal?
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>>385029776
Archie comics has them as a Heroes style team called the Hooligans
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>>385029354
>Amy
Who? You mean Rosy, right?
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>>385029650

>>385029776
I don't know, probably because they were mostly the odd ones out in Sonic the Fighters or maybe the comics had something to do with it. Whatever the reason, I'm fine with it, Bark is like the brute one of the trio & I feel it suits them.
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Reminder that Needlemouse was always a skinfag.
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Has Yuji Naka said anything about Mania?
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>>385030437
I don't know what he's said but there's this >>385026172
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>>385030038
Mighty and Ray were so uninspired as Sonic friends go
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>>385030174
Amy and Tails BTFO!
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>>385030576
Wow, it's almost like they were made to be identical to Sonic for the sake of being balanced in a co-op arcade game or something
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>>385030174
Don't give Dreamcastxz1 ideas.
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Sonic is a bad franchise and a joke to everyone else on the internet.
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>>385030895
Fuck off Dobson.
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>>385030686
It's like it took them a minute to come up with them too
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>>385030174
will they ever pull a Star Fox 2 on Madonna?
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>Special Stage isn't based on Sega Sonic arcade
missed opportunity.
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>>385030503
Neat!
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>>385027432
Link?
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>>385031149
>trackballs
nah
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>>385031149
>Sega Sonic Arcade
would it work well with a Logitech Trackball?
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Can we all agree that the GBA is the Sonic Mania of Handheld console?
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>>385031583
No, It's the Sonic Advance of handheld consoles. Neo Geo Pocket Color is the Mania of handhelds.
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>>385031583
Sonic Advance 1, 2, and Battle? yes
Sonic Advance 3? nope
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Confirm/deny: Iizuka was the worst thing to happen to the Sonic franchise (post 06).
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>>385032101
Deny. He was the one who started the fall to begin with. Read up on the development of Sonic Adventure. I'll see if I can find a link.
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>>385032101
>>385032203
http://info.sonicretro.org/Game_Development:Sonic_Adventure
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>>385032101
The Nintendo exclusivity deal was worse imo. LW and Olympic Games were mediocre and Boom sucked.
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>>385029628
t. LimitCrown
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>>385032304
I've only just started reading through that page but I haven't seen anything too horrible. What did Iizuka do?
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>>385031081

With all the crazy and out-there references Mania's making, if she's a no-show in there then it's basically confirmed NEVER EVER tier
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>>385032101
Have to deny. Iizuka and Yuji Naka duo is the reason why we got Adventure 1 and 2, which however polarizing they may be to the fanbase now, are still a cult classic and defined a lot of the childhood of many Sonic fans, myself included.

Of course we got shit like Shadow the Hedgehog and the mess that was 06 which I unironically enjoyed, but Iizuka isn't as much of a hack as most make him out to be. He's been handling this series for more than 20 years, he just wants the best. I guarantee Mania wouldn't have passed if Iizuka, who has a serious boner for fanmade Sonic material, wasn't there.

That however is his problem. he's too lenient with the Sonic series and who's hands he gives it to. Which is why we got Boom. And he's lost sight on how to make 3D Sonic work, which is why we've gotten shit like Lost World.
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>>385032714
Made Adventure, I guess.

I don't think Adventure started the fall of Sonic, it only did so if you look at the games how they aged now rather than how they did back then. Adventure didn't kill the Dreamcast, especially because SA1 was the best selling title on the console.

If anything the decline kind of started with Heroes.

>>385032887
Izuka just wants to experiment too much. That would be fine if it wasn't SEGA's fucking mascot and a mascot that is extremely popular. They had a formula that worked wonders but he wanted to do Lost World and we all know how well that one came out.

I'll give that the gameplay isn't awful but I really don't think the levels were designed around it's engine. Lost World could have been a lot more fun if it had more Adventure-like levels, making it the SA3 we always wanted even though it wouldn't have been straight up SA3.
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>>385032203
>>385032304
>>385032714
The first few paragraphs make it seem like Iizuka is the reason we have plot in Sonic to begin with, and not the Mario formula of "plot". He's also the reason why everyone got off their asses and started spit balling ideas for Sonic's next big game.
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>>385032714
He came up with the idea of different playstyles.
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>>385033345
Motherfucker.
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>>385032101
Confirming this
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>>384995776
Why?

>>384995831
I see it as part of a spin off trilogy, with CD and whatever the sequel will be
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>>385033510
Actually, it was only the shooting and fishing.
He wanted to use them to "broaden the game's appeal."
It's still a waste of dev time that could've been used to polish the rest of the game and add more levels.
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>>385034189
Oh, okay. Find me the little shit who came up with treasure hunting.
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>>385034189
fishing was the best thing added to the trash that was adventure
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>>385032887
>are still a cult classic and defined a lot of the childhood of many Sonic fans, myself included.

Being a premiere 1st party plat former isn't cult status but it's totally acceptable to love SA as a kid

>and the mess that was 06 which I unironically enjoyed

Jesus christ

>but Iizuka isn't as much of a hack as most make him out to be.

Yes he is

>He's been handling this series for more than 20 years, he just wants the best. I guarantee Mania wouldn't have passed if Iizuka, who has a serious boner for fanmade Sonic material, wasn't there.

Well this is true. And Iizuka expanded taxman's and stealth's proposal to the mania we know today, despite having doubts that it would be well received.

>And he's lost sight on how to make 3D Sonic work, which is why we've gotten shit like Lost World.

3D sonic never worked. Instead they just gave up and put it on rails
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>>385033140
>Izuka just wants to experiment too much. That would be fine if it wasn't SEGA's fucking mascot and a mascot that is extremely popular.

You have that backwards. The point of a mascot is you can do all these spinoffs and they'll actually sell because of the title character. That's what nintendo does with mario.

The massive difference is nintendo doesn't release mario spin offs without keeping the main line of games taken care of first. Somehow sega thinks its a good idea to keep reformulating and spinning off sonic even though they just fucked up a ton of sonic games before it.
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