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>killing civilians ends the game

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>killing civilians ends the game
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>allow teammates to kill each other
>make team-killing a reportable and bannable offense
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Call of Juarez would have been a lot more fun if you could shoot civilians.
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>>384995165

what kind of game was that again
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>>384995395
A pooty wooty walk and shooty
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>killing civilians affects what people think of you
>they can think of you as either a heartless monster, a brave hero or something in between depending on how many you kill
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>kill lots of civilians
>you can now rob civilians
>save lots of civilians
>you can now ask civilians for money
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>>384995532
man I can't wait to burn Osea to the ground
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>>384995018
>>384995130
fucking frogposters
kill yourselves
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>it takes the NPC 30 seconds to forget you just murdered his entire family
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>>384995532
What game? inFamous?
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>>384996063
Ace Combat Zero
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>>384995130
for most games, especially counter-strike, friendly fire is uncommon enough that you won't get punished unless you're deliberately killing your mates (or you're absolutely fucking terrible at the game)
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>>384996004
Why are you so triggered over a cartoon frog?
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>enemies killing a civilian ends the game
the civilian is (You)
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Fuck fallout for having entire villages with unkillable inhabitants.
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>>384995018
>game has one part where you kill civilians in an airport
>media flips their fucking shit for letting you play as a bad guy and see the fight from their perspective
>devs pussy the fuck out and put a spoiler before the cutscene letting people know that what their about to play during this part of the story might be disturbing and offer a chance to skip it
>in some countries the game is outright banned because of this small part of the game
>media played on fear that video games make people violent and this scene could "inspire" copycats
Holy fucking shit I'm actually nostalgically remembering a CoD game...
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>>384996672
>still mad after 10 years
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>>384995130
Accidentally killing your team is fine, but intentionally doing it should clearly be reportable.
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>>384995018
no its doesnt
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>>384996672
did I play before the warning got patched in or do I just not remember it?
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>>384996109
>enemy combatants who were literally just shooting at you seconds before you fucked up their plane
>civilians
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>>384995703
7.62 high caliber?
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>>384995532
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>Killing civilians progresses the game
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>>384997132
You know you don't have to do this, right?
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>>384997187
Yes, you do.
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>>384996819
Yes I still mad, every news media and "gaming journalist" outlet was acting like they were offended, it was just really weird for the time but now it's all too common
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>>384997187
You had a choice and you continued, so it must be done.
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>>384996848
>>384997132
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>>384995018
>killing civilians gives you an erection
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>>384997365
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KKbZDtp-mk
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>game lets you kill anyone you want
>sequel doesn't let you kill anybody because they're now "important"
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>Murder is always unjustified
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>>384996993
>people in houses and factories on the ground
>not civilians
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>>384996672
>letting you play as a bad guy
You don't play as a terrorist and the game never tells you to shoot anyone, nor are you obligated to at all.
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>>384997504
>Game has loads of armour, weapon and magic choices
>sequel removes the choices to dumb it down for casuals
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>doors won't open
>there's no key
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>>384997504
Who is this cutie?
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>Killing makes it bigger
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>game allows story-essential characters to die, will even let you kill them yourself
>there's no game over and the story is actually changed depending on who dies when
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>>384996848
>>384997132
>>384997365
It wasn't that big of a deal and I didn't feel bad about it.
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>>384997132

>First time playing game
>Kill all the taliban scum
>See CIA fag moving towards ledge, shoot him before he can escape, team is angry with me
>Kill all Marines because muh self-defense
Now I don't know the exact order of events but:
>Kill the civilian that's hanging, spare marine
>Use white phosphour, don't bat an eye when civ casualties
>They hang Lugo, fire nade launcher into crowd and then mow down survivors

Don't remember if there were any more choices but in the end I put down my weapon and went with the marines since this time I wasn't justified in killing them.

It was a good game, but I don't give a fuck about civilians, so it didn't have that "Oh shit I feel horrible effect on me".
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>>384997637

You're fucking kidding, right?
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>>384997132
Game did nothing wrong
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>>384995130
>play battlefield 2
>run over team mates but jump out of the vehicle at the last second so the empty vehicle's momentum kills them and the system doesn't penalise me

I played BF2 for like a year and all I did was fuck around doing dumb shit.

>friendly fire off
>load up jeep with C4
>launch team mate off the map when they try to drive anywhere

Was BF2 the best game for being an antagonistic cunt?
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>>384997504
>>384997623
I hope Todd and that fucking guy with the ugly smile rot in hell.
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>>384997607
>You don't play as a terrorist
What do you call going into an airport with guns for the sole purpose of killing everyone there in order to send a political message against the government you despise???

>the game never tells you to shoot anyone
The terrorist literally tells you to kill everyone, wishes you all luck in this life and the next, and to remember no Russian before the elevator opens during the cutscene

>nor are you obligated to at all
Even if you don't kill anyone during that part you're still associated with the people who committed the terrorist attack and can't do anything to stop them, the "pacifist" player playing as the terrorist is still guilty by association
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>>384997132
Is this game worth picking up?
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>>384997667
>>>384997132 (You)
>>First time playing game
>>Kill all the taliban scum
They ain't taliban
>>See CIA fag moving towards ledge, shoot him before he can escape, team is angry with me
He ain't CIA, he's a 33rd.
>>Kill all Marines because muh self-defense
Agreed
>Now I don't know the exact order of events but:
>>Kill the civilian that's hanging, spare marine
I shot the snipers because it's usless to shoot dead bodies
>>Use white phosphour, don't bat an eye when civ casualties
Walker did though.
>>They hang Lugo, fire nade launcher into crowd and then mow down survivors
Same.
>Don't remember if there were any more choices but in the end I put down my weapon and went with the marines since this time I wasn't justified in killing them.
Same
>It was a good game, but I don't give a fuck about civilians, so it didn't have that "Oh shit I feel horrible effect on me".
Same. Only cared for my squad
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>>384997187
You have to do it, because it's his cycle of guilt.
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>>384995018
>killing yourself makes you lose the game
Nothing like real life!
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>>384997709
>pointy elbows 2/10 would not bang
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>xcom 2
>not penalized in any way for blowing up civilians
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>>384997940
>they are all collaborateurs
That's how the resistance always worked.
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>>384997532
Except when it's the courts doing it
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>>384997654
Did you feel like a hero while doing it?
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>>384997654
>>384997667
the effect of the willy pete scene is nullified if the player themself is unempathetic or feels that their justification of what happened is final and devalues the other characters
for me as ive played it several times over which has ruined the shock value, but i still feel a bit disgusted whenever i watch it

i also remember watching a video only a bit back that discussed several things of the game, with a major one being that the player themselves is not actually Walker, but is actually there to show how much the player is like Walker attempting to justify everything and act as the hero of the story, i'll dig it up in a min
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>>384997274
>Yes I still mad, every news media and "gaming journalist" outlet was acting like they were offended
it's called virtue signaling anon.
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>>384998037
found it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dzstxE_5Rc
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>>384996381
>Not modding and killing every single one of those smug Mary Sue little lamplighters
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>>384998015
Modern soldiers aren't heroes, so no.
>>384998037
>>384998298
It's interesting but I don't think the Walker character is a hero either.
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>>384998538
he was never meant to be a hero anyway, Walker was intentionally built as a generic american that wanted to save people to show how he wanted to play hero and killed hundreds on all sides including civilians by doing such, just like how the player enjoys a story where they can kill hundreds of generic enemies and then be hailed as a hero for saving some people
the whole point is that the player wasnt meant to feel like Walker has by the end he went from stotic commander to bloody thristy murderer but understand how they were related to him by pursuing heroism through cold blood
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No Russian was a justified mission and I wish more games dared to make controversial missions where you get to play as a "bad guy", and I don't mean dumb shit like "You're the bad guy in GTA", I mean an actual game where there is no justification for the bad stuff you do, where the character isn't made out to be a hero.

Killing all those civilians in the airport was great, because in the end it didn't even matter, when Makarov shoots you he just shatters your self-rigtheousness.
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>>384998870
>Manhunt
>Postal 2
>Hotline Miami
You might like those games.
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>>384997365
did this actually shock you dweebs lol. the game was cool i did everything evil i could
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>>384998037
>Meanwhile I'm mowing people down by the thousands in a razor blade covered car in my vidya
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>>384998037
i did everything i thought would be bad on purpose because i wanted to
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>kill a cat
>entire town attacks you
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>killing your own men gives you a game over
>but then later when the game tells you to do it it's totally okay
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>chicken gets killed in a melee
>guards arrest you
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>>384999132
>part of the game where your 'allies' get tricked into betraying you or some shit
>killing them still gives a Game over even though they are shooting at you
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I really had to address my toxic masculinity after this.
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>enemies can surrender
>penalized for killing them
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>>384997132
>Game tries to make you feel guilty for doing something it forces you to do
>Game tries to make you feel guilty for doing something the game tries to convince you is fun but is the most boring section of the game
Imagine if a game had you do a boring as fuck turret section, and has your character screaming about how fun shooting it is and you just want it to be over, then when it is over the game goes "BOO HOO, THERE WERE SOME INNOCENT CIVILIANS CAUGHT IN THE CROSSFIRE, YOU'RE A BAD GUY"
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>>384999308

>Enemies can be disarmed
>If you don't kill them they'll just grab a weapon and try to kill you instead of giving up.
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>>384999436
I distinctly remember this happening but I forget what game.
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>>384999345
>not realizing its calling you out on all the shit youve done in hundreds of other games with not a second thought
>not realizing its showing you what shit like Willy Pete and AC130s can actually do to people and how bad it can go if its misused
while the game does force you to use it and sorta of ruins some of the choice aspect of it, if you just blow over it because youre forced to do it then youve failed to realize what its actually meant to show
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>>384999558
Oh wow, I guess I should feel so bad about all the fictitious violence I did in games where I didn't have a pacifist option, why not try to guilt trip me on all the goombas I jumped on in fucking Mario
>War weapons are bad
Yeah I kinda figured, if I wanted to kill real humans, I'd join the military
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>>384995532
>Killing a shit ton of civilians awards you with the Typhoon, Super Eagle, and is considered canon
Merc route best route
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>can kill adults in the game
>FUCK YOU DEVS WHY CAN'T I KILL KIDS WOWW FUCK YOU FUCK THIS IS NOT GRIM DARK ENOUGH FUCKKK HOW IS THAT REALISTIC IF YOU CAN'T KILL UNDERAGE POPULATION

Every god damn time.
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>>384996672
>identify the fucking bullets used in the attack from the CCTV footage
>can't identify the assailants who only masked their identities ~2 seconds before the attack

Even 10 year old me thought this was stupid
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>game has you work for bad guys for one section
>the bad guys sound too much like bros just doing their job
>suddenly strategically placed hamfisted dialogue
>uhhh... remember that time we burned an orphanage? fucking burning children lol
Guess the game
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>>384995018
>crossing invisible barrier fails the mission.
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>>385000035

I don't know the game, but I am very curious.
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>>385000035
>game gives a choice to let you join the bad guys
>dialogue and then game over
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>stab a man right through the stomach with a Chinese broadsword and watch him bleed out on the ground
>he gets up and runs off after combat
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>>384997874
>What do you call going into an airport with guns for the sole purpose of killing everyone there in order to send a political message against the government you despise???

Confirmed as never playing the game. You play as an undercover CIA agent.
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>>385000000
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>>384997837
Sure, just right after they make untold millions from retards while fucking up every aspect of your favorite game and turning everyone against you for complaining.
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>>384995416
>tfw /v/ doesn't even have to try to make me laugh anymore
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>>384996381
>Every random npc in diamond city is a massive asshole.
>One guy in particular who sits outside the dugout inn all day always talking shit to me when walk past. (He's at the tables outside the inn , wearing a red letterman jacket.)
>find a nice spot and blow his head off after one too many times.
>He respawns a few days later.

Fuck fallout 4.
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>>384995018
"Well Ezio didn't kill them so youre gonna desync or something."
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>>384995018
>game has reputation system
>it changes nothing about the story or gameplay
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>>384996381
What is New Vegas
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>>385001457
>reputation
only game ive come across with this is ogre battle march of the black queen
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>>385001457
Any other female comic villain would be better.
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>>384995130

>Can purposely kill your friends in real life
>Government says it's illegal and you'll get sent to jail

Man, what a fucking stupid system. Am I right guys?
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>>384997187
I really hope you're not pretending that just shutting the game off and that point is a legit choice because it symbolizes Walker leaving the city or some bollocks to that effect.
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>>384999658
It's not a guilt trip, it's meant to show you how video games portray these "heroes".
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>>385001593
Watch Dogs did it
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>>384999112
>kill a cat
>me-Ow!
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>>384995130
Hes not wrong though.
If you don't want FF the best thing to do is have FF kill you instead of the teamate you shot.
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>>384997902
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>>384999551
Goldeneye did this.
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>>384995018
>game claims to tackle taboos such as child soldiers
>they're a one-time set piece in the actual game world and all other interaction with them is within cutscenes
>harming them gives you a game over
why even bother putting them in the game
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>>384997187
>just close the game :^)
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>>385000035
>>385000184
Skyrim.
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>>385002690

Hahaha what?

This does not happen in Skyrim, I guarantee you.
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>>385001457
>(((son)))
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>>385002230
Man it's almost like shooting kids in the face would definitely give the game an AO rating and there's no way in hell a major publisher like Konami would permit anyone even their golden goose to create such an immense shitstorm of controversy.
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>>384999813
>moralfag jokes.jpg
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>>385002978
>a young woman being raped is okay but god forbid somebody allow the player to shoot these children that are holding guns and are trained to kill others
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>>385002959
>having children is jewish
At this rate, soon we will have to stop (((breathing))).
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>>385003205

I hope to god you're only pretending to be retarded. Read his name.
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>>385003120
Little steps
Soon, we will have edgemaster games with "rape child to death" buttons, as soon as leftists stop having power in vidya.
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>>384995018
I deliberately kill civilians in XCOM2 as reverse terror missions

>stand in EVAC zone
>nade as many civs as possible nearby before leaving
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>>385003289
>Soon, we will have edgemaster games with "rape child to death" buttons

swfchan.com/4/19784/?ryoujoku.swf
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>Ending the game kills civilians
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>>384995130
good just like real life you dumb retarded frogposter
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>>385001046
>>384996381
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>>385003406
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