Predictions?

>no playable Viera

There will be flat ass.

>>384964195
Is this supposed to be for 14?

If so it's a shame since I would really love to see another single player Ivalice game. I've loved all games that have taken place in Ivalice so far.

>>384964195
Whatever they're doing will be shit because it's tied to a terrible MMO. Someone really needs to make a FFT2.

Deletion.

>>384964195
Foolproof weekly token dispenser just like every other 24 man raid.
>inb4 muh Ozzymandiaz

>>384964195
>Predictions?
Butthurt janitors

Hopefully some good, interesting bosses and FFT music. They haven't really said enough about it to think anything substantial.

Marche will shut ff14 down

>>384964826
I agree, I'd buy FFT2 as soon as it hit the shelves.

>>384965143
>Marche boss
>his ultimate ability halfway through is set up to look like a disconnect
>have to try and log back in through disconnect warnings and a queue and a minigame before time runs out or your client crashes

>>384964251
That's a good thing, anon.

>>384965143
>Winning against Marche deletes your FF14 account after playing a cutscene showing you returning to the real world
I love it. Please please please let this happen.

>>384964195
Tons of models imported from FFXII.

>>384964826
>>384965251
FFT2 will remove the T and be like XV.

>>384965889
I'll allow it. just 4u

Whats the list of fights harder than deltascape v3s when they were released?

>hehe dude I'm such a smartass there are too many to list lmao
Yeah yeah just list them.

>>384969448
>T7
>T9
>T11
>A3S
>A4S
>A6S
>A8S

>>384969840
Out of those I was only an active raider on the release of t11 and I can tell you are full of crap on that one, which then puts all the others to question.

>>384969840
>A3S
Pepsi man killed my static, was hilarious and sad

>>384964195
its going to be an rpg where you use FFT, vagarant story, and that shitty other FF mechanics all at once

>>384970029
T11 required much more coordination than V3S does, so fuck off.

>>384964251
I'd be okay with them releasing a new race during the expansion like they did with classes and Rogue/Ninja. With a raid to tie it in, it might make more sense than "suddenly there are au'ra everywhere".

>>384969840
You seem to have forgotten T5, he did say
>when they were released
and nobody can say that wasn't hard as fuck when it first came out, it was one of the longest times between release and clear of any coil/alex. Most of Second Coil Savage counts as harder, as well, particularly the killer of hopes and dreams T7S.
>>384970038
mine too actually, but more because the raid is the only raid in the game that we had ever run into that was actually artificial difficulty, the server side ticks on heals are broken in that fight, any healer will tell you that, and the tethers sometimes just snap back into the incorrect position and wipe you. It was a mechanically unsound fight, it should never have made it through beta testing.

>>384970158
Why? Because of tethers that were easier than zurvan? Or did you think dealing with the sphere and cube was hard or something?

I'm now legit curious.

>every pug groups want different position for dragon

Fuck me.

>>384970038
A3S was one of the worst designed fights in the game. But I'm only saying that because it destroyed my static too. Wash away digititis was a great mechanic when you cant actually see your party's current positions in real time.

>>384970393
I was actually thinking of T12, but got the number wrong because Alex and Omega dropped the number of trials down to 12.

>>384970446
What dragon?

>>384970553
The tank muncher in O3s.

>>384969840
I actually feel like t9 and v3s are par to par with each other. Neither is specially hard.

>>384971042
What's to fix about it?
just kidding, but if you want to see a thread that's arguably even worse for the same reason, just go to TERA general

>>384971042
To be fair, it's not really their job to fix /vg/. They're still fags for going on a deleting rampage on us though.

>>384971227
T9 is more hectic and punishing. A wrongly placed meteor kills the whole party. V3S is just one mechanic at a time, while T9 stacks them.

>>384971232
Or any general, really. /vg/ is a septic tank.

>>384964195
>"draw your sword"
This raid's pubbie grinder

>>384971279
mods are responsible for every board, hence it is their responsibility. Only janitors are limited to boards.

>>384971362
XII just got a rerelease, I seriously doubt tactics is going to get anything, though that would be a good fight if they handled it correctly. Which, by the way, a 24 man is not handling it correctly.

>>384964405
>>384964826
>>384965251

Based opinions

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>try Lord of Vermilion challenges
>fun but I'm getting my ass kicked by Odin and his DPS check
>read a guide that you need Yugiri minion
>is $5 in the Mog Station
>beat all challenges with Yugiri spam and got my Twintania minion
P2W right there

In all seriousness, LoV is pretty fun but I understand why no one plays it. It is too micro intensive and kind of a bother. Too bad because you can tell there are a lot of love and hours put into coding the game.

So now that the thread almost entirely about posting characters like /xivg/ finally died (certainly not due to a janitor) how long do you think this thread's gonna last?

>>384971807
It's a shame they didn't do something that would actually be enjoyable. I dread Blitzball

>>384971807
It's basically straight up impossible to play effectively on a controller so it automatically rules out console players.

They made it so much more complicated than it needed to be. Even making it a pseudo-RTS was a mistake. If they had made it a grid-based turn-based SRPG like FFT/Tactics Ogre where your team is minions it would be 9999999% better.

>>384971992
A tactics minigame would have being far better, I agree. Maybe you could use your Grand Company Squadron instead of the minions.

>>384971807
literally needs to be 5 times as fast and you need to be able to queue spawns infinitely, but then controller players would be incapable of beating keyboard players ever.

>>384971232
>spoiler

I'll give you that, but the proportion of people wanting to talk about TERA the GAME itself is rather small than the degenerate population. XIV's just kind split in that respect, and game-side is getting the short end of the stick.

>>384972584
Controller players are barely even capable of playing Verminion at all, and I say that as a controller player. It is fucking obtuse as shit. The whole game in general is just obtuse as fuck.
>Every minion has a unique ability!
>Hey cool
>But you can only use it if it's in a group with 3 other of the exact same minion, and they have to build up this arbitrary points gauge first!
>Also every minion has marginally different stats, weaknesses/advantages, and is strong against different buildings, hope you've got all that shit memorized for the like 200 fucking minions in the game!
And then you win by basically just spamming 1 or 2 kinds.

>>384973393
Would the game work better as Castle Rush custom game back in WC3 era? Basically, you have 2 lanes (in this case 3) and just make a certain type of minion infinitely spam on that lane and auto push it to the enemy's base. Then that minion destroys the base and you win.
I remember it was a pretty fun game back in the day and I can see working for console players.

>>384973864
well it basically was introduced as footman frenzy yeah. i think literally anything else would have been better for the speed they chose for the game

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>Google "return to Ivalice"
>It's an expansion for the MMORPG instead of a new Tactics game
I guess I just need to stop getting my hopes up for anything.

>>384967339
yep, square doesn't make traditional jrpgs or srpgs anymore. they only make kingdom hearts clones and weird spinoffs.

>>384964195
>see op pic
>get excited at the possibility of a new FFT game
>it's for FFXIV
I should have fucking known

>>384974359
>>384974725
You could be playing a raid written by Matsuno
Or you could be contrarian faggots
The choice is yours

>>384975032
>anon gets mad because people like different things than he does
Your autism is showing. At least the game you prefer is alive and still getting new content.

>>384974725
The hype would be in the sky if that were the case. It smelled fishy from the start.

>>384971042
Ghettoing generals was a mistake to begin with because it inevitably leads to creation of consistent bubble communities which in turn corrodes the advantages of an anonymous image board and provides healthy soil for attention whores.

>>384975032
>instakill mechanics
neck yourself

>>384974359
>>384974725
Sorry guys I want that too, but classic FFT is fucking dead.

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>>384975032
I don't like MMORPGs. An MMORPG with FF skin isn't any more appealing to me than WoW or LotRO or TESO or what have you. Also having opinions doesn't make me contrarian you cakeboy faggot.

>>384975568
This. Its even worse for the MMO ones just due to the nature of the kind of people who play MMOs

Ramza booty pants for all jobs

>>384975568
I'd have to agree. General culture was one of the worst things to happen to 4chan, and makes the communities for a certain game far too insular.

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>>384974359
>>384975032
>Draw your sword, Warrior of Light.
>all 24 characters are teleported to a separate instance to fight an enemy solo

Somehow I feel like this would be an amazing way to weed out shitters

>>384977506
I agree, but then that'll just make the shitters whine about how hard the content is.

Best anyone can hope for is that Return to Ivalice will tease an ACTUAL new Ivalice game. We need more FFT. We need more Matsuno games in general. But seriously, fuck MMOs.

>>384977506
>>384977623
I want another Yoshida "Remember Shinryu's box right before a savepoint? Fuck you" answer when the inevitable 'why is it so hard' question arises on a live letter.

It'll be frustrating at first with everybody wiping all the fucking time.
Then maybe it'll be fun the first time you do it with not-bads.
Then it'll slowly become less and less fun until eventually it's a miserable slog that you put off doing every week.

Super Savage Return to Ivalice Extreme when?

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>tons of FFT armor sets get added
Literally nothing can go wrong here

Also, are the Crystal Tower raids easy enough that I can go in blind as a tank? I've hit 70, I've somehow managed to avoid doing any raids so far. I've also never raided before in any MMO

>>384981187

Chances are some other tank will MT everything so you can pretend you're a DPS the entire time.

>>384981187
Yea 24 mans are designed so that you can go in blind. Heck as a tank you never have to tank anything so just dps til u get used to the mechanics for next time if youd like to tank them.

>>384964195
is it pronounced "ee-VAL-ee-chay" or "EE-val-ees"

>>384982689
Latter

Welfare raid gear. Even more normie shitters dying to things like susan ex and omega savage due to thinking gear will carry them

>>384969840
Everyone forgets t8 which was the first actual dps check in the game

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>>384982689
>ee-VAL-ee-chay
Fucking wowfugees

>>384982178
To be fair they actually bothered a bit with Weeping City and Dun scaith. They're still easily but in comparison to Void Ark, Void Ark literally puts me to sleep and Weeping City was fun at launch because shitters can't into doing mechanics.

I hope the ivalice raid is tough.

>>384971042
Reminder a thread about posting your mmo character (90% XIV characters) hit 600 posts and died peacefully.

>static just barely beat o2s tonight
>no one over 4k dps, only MNK was even close
o3s is going to wall us hard
this is what i get for deciding to become """midcore"""

cleared o3s last night
got bis gloves for SAM
feels good to be a skillspeed build

>>384984043
I'd rather be a midcore player than some parselord bard who lives and dies for fflogs.

>>384984458
This may shock you, but bosses actually have dps checks. Lazy people will block you from clearing. It has nothing to fucking do with fflogs.

>>384964195
>New Villain goes around breaking crystals
>Has some delusional speeches about wanting to destroy the world in order to go home
>His comrades follows him without question
>Insults cripples, white girl women and antisocial npcs he comes across

10/10 would buy ff14 for the expansion

>>384985330
Marche is truly the greatest protagonist.

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>>384985436
>>384985330
>le marche le villain meme

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>>384985631
>le marche unironically did nothing wrong

3 different corridors with Tactics references.

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>>384985793
>marche unironically did nothing wrong
That is correct, yes.

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>>384985793
>people turned into monsters
>but it's ok since the cripple kid got to be prince

>>384985793
>it's okay if mewt fucked over everyone else in the world because he didn't fuck over the 5 or so people he cared about

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>>384977506
>specific bosses engineered to force you to be at the top of your particular class to clear

>if you win you get a classic FFT armor set based on one of the "hero" characters in FFT

>>384981187
>no tail on that miqote

Whoever drew this needs to be dragged through the streets.

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>>384986323
>Whatever questionable shit Marche pulled before this was revealed is now justified and he totally did nothing wrong because the end justifies the means

woah

>>384986386
>x person done messed up shit irl to someone else because he got bullied
>y person is now entirely justified to destroy the world because of it

>>384986412
Okay now you're just projecting like >>384986386
at least >>384986323
respond to the topic, I'm saying that Marche did a lot of shit wrong before the game makes Remedi say most of it was A-okay at the final fight. If you don't have anything related to the topic to argue about it then get the fuck out.

>>384964195
Marche deletes ff14

>>384986857
>the game makes Remedi say most of it was A-okay at the final fight
If you actually paid attention during the game you would have noticed that early on you can encounter all the bullies from the beginning of the game as fucking zombies. The implication is that denizens of the real world have been turned into all the creatures and people of Ivalice. Marche's actions are completely justified by the fact that everyone, child or adult, has to constantly beat the shit out of each other for no real reason in Ivalice, it's not a state of affairs that anyone but Mewt, Ritz and Donnel would want.

>>384984043
feels good to already be done with o4s. and honestly it sounds like your group's DPS is "okay" you may just need some gear to help your group out. so give it a week or two if dps checks start recking your group too hard.. o3s isnt as much a DPS check as a mechanics check.

o4s though? that shit is a pure DPS AND mechanics check, most groups won't clear it without a few weeks of gear probably

Where should I tank Iron Giant in 3s anyway? At the spawn point?

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>>384986323

>>384984043
Dude, look at Xeno's clears and their dps. You don't need to be 90th percentile to clear shit.

>>384987142
You're focusing only on one issue that I'm not going to argue about. He also killed a shitton of people at Jadg, broke the fucking crystals holding reality together after a vague notion that the guardian said it would 'bring back another world' and doesn't show any hesitation about what would happen to the people he meets during his time in Ivalice if he nuke the place, a shanty town where Marche lives can't possibly have that many people to replace the npcs/monsters, so Marche either doesn't care because they're all illusion or doesn't think about them at all which is probably worse.
>they're all illusions
they're talking, breathing, living people who can grow and die; a comparison of the moral conflict would be Negima!'s magic arc, you just don't toss this shit aside like it doesn't matter.

>>384964251
>no playable bangaa

>>384987595
>You're focusing only on one issue that I'm not going to argue about
I know you aren't going to address it, because it proves you completely wrong.

Killing people in the Jagd is just part of life in Ivalice, that's why Marche wants to go home, because he doesn't want to be straight up murdering people in self defense constantly.

You're assuming that Mewt's illusion only affected their town, for all we know, it affected the entire world. Every single character and monster in FFTA could easily be someone or something from the real world. That's the problem with illusions, they're not clear. So you can pretend Marche is committing genocide but in the end, all he's doing is sweeping away smoke and mirrors.

These arguments don't matter because you can't even mount a fucking defense beyond plugging your ears and pretending you're right.

>>384988009
Stinky dumb lizard scum.

>>384988032
>illusions are not clear
>smoke and mirrors
>but the zombie bullies are the real ones I swear!

nice double standards, I do not want to argue about the zombie because it's been discussed *to death* and I and you aren't going to convince anyone to their side on it and it just leads to shitflinging, like what you're trying to do

Anyways, you already proved me right yourself with the Jagd business, he went there the first time to kill the guys who got his friend's brother's airplane, that's not self-defense in any legal capacity I know of
>le it's just part of life
I'll just do you strawman back at you and say

"These arguments don't matter because you can't even mount a fucking defense beyond plugging your ears and pretending you're right."

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>>384964195
ff12 themed dungeon for ff14

>>384989023
Of course, it's a perfect time to purchase Final Fantasy XII™: The Zodiac Age™ for Playstation™ 4.

>>384989023

Something something Zodiark.

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I thought it was supposed to be multiple raids, not just one?

>Mfw it'll probably all be 12 content, and no FFT

>>384964195
They will probably go back to Ivalice I think.

>>384989330
It will be like the other alliance raids. CT series had Labrynth of the anciets, the crystal tower proper, and the world of darkness. Likewise, void ark series had void ark, weeping city, and dun scaith

>>384964195
I expect you return to Ivalice at some point.

just a hunch

>try to give a fuck about the story
>literally cant

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>>384989510

>>384975848

they should just hire Yasumi Matsuno and let him do whatever he wants. If they are scared of budget overruns, make him work on a portable game

Did they make it so you can't do single chest runs anymore?

Orlandu is the final boss and he will literally just 1 shot your entire raid gg re

>>384982983
i'm italian

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SO KAWAII DESU NE

It seems to me that doing savage raids is only legit with the minimum ilvl. What's the point in doing a min 310 in 320 gear?

>>384964195
better than Mhach, not as good as CT. Still good, but none of the bosses live up to Ozma.

>>384991902
so you don't savage raid, is what you're saying

>>384964195
No vieras no buy.

>>384964251
I'm like 99% sure they'll be a hinthint NPC character in the story

Also Dalmasca is a place in the story near Garlemald proper

You realize your MMO is a hilarious failure when the only way you have to drag people back to it is by fan servicing the hell out of all the other games with an actual personality of their own in hopes that people will stick around to have a small taste of that actual content which you had no part in.

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>>384996235
>had no part in
>Head Writer: Matsuno
:thuk:

>>384996474
>Everyone dies of boredom because it's nothing but politics

>>384996474
>A name stuck in a chair of HEAD writter with an entirely different team of people
>The outcome is an entirely different one to the Ivalice games, with none of its themes, characterizations, situations or even approaches to how magic and gods behave; in short absolutely nothing in common in any way, just a tweaked ripoff of FFXI

Really makes your almost converge

>>384975568
Or maybe MMO just attract shitty people?

>>384975032
>in a skinner box designed for no-life neckbeards
yeah thanks but no thanks

>>384971992
They made it to work like Lord of Vermilion the arcade game. This was a pretty dumb idea since no one outside of Japan has ever played it and it's not even that good anyway, it's just popular because of collectible cards.

>>384997148
He's referring to Ivalice silly, game itself is different people. Also the CORRECT shitpost is a tweaked ripoff of WoW, this game is nothing like FFXI.

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How do I do it anons?

Since I got a job, I dont have much free time left. My highest class is level 64 and I'm slowly crawling to 70 but I find it hard to go forward.

I'd like to clear the new content but I always say "Meh it's not worth your time" or "I'll stop being an underachiever someday" and I always end up unsubscribing.

I know the best thing to do would be to join a Free Company that raids but I dont have any cool achievements to link or much experience to prove I'm not totally shit at the game.

So anyone on Aether datacenter need a WHM or RDM for a static? I wanted to get back into raiding this expansion. Party finder is suffering.

>>384964195
>Predictions?
Bangaa's and enemas