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Is BotW the most visually interesting game of this gen?

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Is BotW the most visually interesting game of this gen?
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Close, but no cigar
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>>384962673
>that many hearts

As if you would need half of that in this casual game.
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>>384962673
>BotW
>visually interesting
It's a good game, but it looks like shit.
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>>384962935
You have ridiculously shit taste. I bet you like realism and never think about art direction. Don't bother replying.
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>>384962673
>Cel shading
>Visually interesting
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>>384962673
Fuck no. Its got solid art direction muddied by shit hardware and some baffling asinine decision to vaseline up the whole fucking image no matter where you go.

Also the Switch is not current generation. Nintendo has removed themselves from the generation game. Either you accept that or you stick to what Nintendo themselves said about the Wii U and the Switch is technically the generation after the PS4/Boner. Either way it's not this gen.
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>>384962673
I'd vote for bloodborne, or agony, but only 1 of them is an actual game
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>>384963654
Yeah the washed out filter really bugs me and to top it off I can't even add reshade without messing up my shaders and stuff.
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>>384962673
Bloodborne is, and I say that as someone who doesn't even own a PS4.
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>>384962673
No
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>>384962673
>cel shaded
>interesting
No. It's been done before, nobody cares
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>>384962673
>>384962818
These both look pretty amazing.
And they're both games from last gen hardware.

When will the current gen compare?
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>>384962935
This. Breath of the Wind has awful visuals every way you look at it. The art style is clearly used so that the game has an excuse for looking as bad as it does. People will look back on it in a few years and think "what the hell were we smoking" just like they did with Skyward Sword.
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>>384962673
Yes
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>>384962673


I'd dare say that the length to which Nintendo optimized the game to save the games performance is the most impressive part, even if it chugs are some points anyways.
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nah, that title goes to persona 5 hands down
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>>384963398
>art direction
>how can we make this run on our shitty hardware
>cell shading and no details past 10 feet
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Persona 5 or bloodborne and I would argue there isn't another game that comes close to those two
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>>384967059
soulsfags are legitimate cancer
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>>384967059
Pretty confident this part doesn't look this good in-game, and I adore Bloodborne's art direction and the game itself.
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>tfw your kid self would have gone ape over this game

then again my parents would have never been able to afford a wii u or switch. Fuck consoles have gotten expensive.
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>>384968596
Butthurt babby detected.
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>>384962673
Yeah looks pretty great. Nice environments that really do credit to the theme of the game. Felt like an actual fantasy adventure.
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>>384967059
>>384963760
bloodborne had completely boring and rehashed environments. I'd rather play play dks2 again...
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>>384968830
LOL

POOR PARENTS

HAHAHA
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>>384969051
T. false flag king
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>>384969157
I don't know maybe?

like consoles were only 100 bucks when I was a kid, that's like 3 birthdays and 3 christmases worth fuck.
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>>384968830

I read some article where this guy was so happy that his kid had just been going to town on BotW for the past two weeks. He was like seven or eight and had been holing up in different parts of the house playing it on the Switch and just having a great time. After a few weeks he was telling his dad about it and said something like "..and then I got a parachute and flew off the island I had been on the whole time! Do you think there's much of the game left?"

Cute as fuck and makes me wish I enjoyed video games like I did as a kid.
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>>384967059
>3840x2160

sony fags everyone
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>>384963510
I unironically browse 4chan and Reddit. Have been for years, too.
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>>384962818

Beat me to it.
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>>384969284
This honestly is all I can hope for. I really feel bad for kids that have to put up with the shit games that they've been putting out.

Its no wonder they watch lets plays.
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>>384969332

Explains a lot.
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>>384969313
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>>384962673
This game is generic as fuck, it baffles me like Nintenbros live 5 years and they still have the audacity to show us their shit.
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>>384967346
You have it ass-backwards my dude. Skyward Sword looked abysmal on release and it was an eyesore compared to other things being played around that time, but the Wii's native resolution was at fault.

Turns out that the art style of Skyward Sword might be the only good thing about it, and it looks beautiful when upscaled in emulators. Breath of the Wild, though held back by the hardware it's on like Skyward sword, still features a beautiful art style and outstanding vistas once you dig into the game.
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I don't like to be all >dude weed lmao but I took acid and played BotW all night and it was the most beautiful gaming experience I've ever had. Every location was so engaging and amazing to explore. I spent hours and hours hiking up through the Hebra Mountains, found Selmie and learned about shield surfing, stumbled upon the Northern labyrinth and managed to solve it, fought a Lynel under a blood moon, discovered the Lost Woods and more.

>tfw you jump off the peak of the Hebra and land on top of a smaller mountain, overlooking central Hyrule and one of the dragons flying through the canyon
>tfw the music and wind fade away and a falcon flies right by your head, emitting a haunting "SCREEEE"
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>>384969896
Sounds like a crazy trip
None of those things are even in the game
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>>384968830
>tfw your kid self would have gone ape over this game

This is true. I gave my 9 year old cousin this for his birthday.
He's never played a Zelda game, or anything more complicated than Mario before, and now he has been playing BotW non-stop
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>>384968830
Accounting for inflation, the NES costed $480 USD, and the N64 would have been around $300 in 2016 USD. Modern consoles are very reasonably priced.
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>>384970705
And new games cost a shit ton back then too.
Nearly everyone I know rented many of their games.
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>>384962673

I hate to be that guy, but because it was 720p, I had a hard time seeing some animals and the flora looked choppy. It's basically the same problems Red Dead Redemption had. In terms of design though, it was great.

I think Dragon Quest XI will do what BotW tried to do, but in full 1080p and a more clean style. Hopefully the next Zelda can improve on that again, but I wonder given the Switch resolution.
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I'm still amazed how playable BotW is on cemu
I just got it running today and was expecting a shitshow, but instead I got something that's more stable and polished than some AAA PC ports. I mean literally, in another universe, this is the same experience that Nintendo dumped onto PC and is selling

If I weren't currently doing a master mode run on my Switch I'd probably legitimately play it even. Thinking of doing a normal mode rush to fully unlocked master sword and just raping the game with only the master sword + phantom armor
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>>384969564
is that the dof, ca, or blur that makes those buildings in the background blurry as fuck. Same with that coffin too. And that floating detached railing . Try again.
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>>384971570
I feel you, it's running pretty stable
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>>384962673
>that puzzle where the particle effects in the wind are the indication on which way to go
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I'm pretty fond of Gravity Rush's art direction but that's just me.
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you know, I actually would have preferred if Nintendo introduced breath of the WIld as an entirely new IP. The game is great and all but the "Zelda" aesthetic, for me, holds it back.
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Just because it broke off of twenty years of the same rehashed shit doesn't make it superior to all the games (and there are a lot) that evolved in the meantime. This applies to gameplay as well, daddy Nintendo innovated for the first time since the franchise began and everybody's losing their minds, even though the game is only on a ~2005 level.
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>>384972426

I'd prefer that too. I like Zelda but I'm not really a fan of this new direction, at least not if they're gonna keep up such a shit dungeon game.
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>>384972426

They did that exact thing. It's called Xenoblade.
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>>384963510
>Jet Set Radio and new Guilty Gear
>not visually interesting
What a faggot.
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>>384972515
>rehash
>innovated for the first time
>game is at a 2005 level
This post is the epitome of clueless. If you want to be taken seriously, I bet you could show me a game that plays like BOTW with the same sense of scale, similar world mechanics, and that level of unparalleled freedom and non-linearity. You can, can't you? Since the game is so unimpressive and all.
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>>384962673
You wish
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>>384962673
No, the game felt almost unfinished in its variety of areas. The exclusion of an ice temple or anything really good in the snowy areas is an example of the blandness that permeates throughout the entire game.

>>384967059
>bullshot
BB looks legitimately bad
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>>384973295
Any elder scrolls or witcher game
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psssh nothin personnel kid
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>>384973465
New warframe update looks weird
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I-ITS JUST A DIFFERENT TIME OF DAY!
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>>384973295

Not that guy, and I love BotW, but the game is basically a combination of the good things all other open world games did before it. It takes bits and pieces of RDR, Skyrim, Dragon Quest, Xenoblade and a dozen other games. Refines them some and then puts them into a Zelda world.

BotW is amazing not because the concepts used in the game were unique. But because it refined them so well and put them all into one game. But more importantly, because it did what Zelda should have been doing for the last 15 years. BotW is basically what Wind Waker and Skyward Sword should have been. Which Aonouma himself said in interviews. And even saying that, the next Zelda could do a lot more. Like full dungeons, more overworld mazes, better NPC dialogue and no fucking cinematics.
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>No mention of N-Sane trilogy
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>>384973713
Looks just like Amazing Spiderman 2
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>>384973465
Similarly to BOTW, GR2 had a rather limited amount of areas too. BOTW is overall a much more pleasant treat for the eyes.

>>384973783
The game was fun but it's not even a quarter as good as you're making it sound. The next Zelda will most likely be even worse because kids didn't really like BOTW and it was a pretty forgettable game among us adults.
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Is this game even out yet? It makes me wish we could have an entire game made with early 90's CG aesthetic.
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>>384962673
nope, but it would reach average last gen.
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>>384962673
Check my 5
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>>384973465
These have to be some of the most pointless webms I see posted on /v/

I mean ok, you slide around on the ground. And? What the fuck do you DO?
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>>384962673
it looks interesting
but it also looks terrible in videos, more so than other games
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Most visually interesting game? No. Most visually interesting open world game of this gen? One of them at least. It's comfy to ride around Hyrule.
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>>384974003

>I didn't like it so no one else did
>fastest selling Zelda in history and helped the Switch to become the fastest selling Nintendo console
What a hot opinion you have.
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>>384973189
>muh weebshit aesthetic

Neck yourself faggot
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>>384974003
>kids didn't really like BOTW and it was a pretty forgettable game among us adults.
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>>384962818
yeah persona 5 is peerless in visual style
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>>384973543
It looks pretty nice without chromatic aberration and that blurry filter. What a shame.
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>>384973783

>same post shilling its "open world style"
>same picture

Is this guy a legit marketer or something? BoTWs open world was legit garbage

You can list pad me a bunch of shit all you want and make them seem grander than they were but i've played the game and it's literally only fun for 10 hours.

Once you realize that the vast majority of side quests are fetch quests, that the enemy variety is a legit joke (blue mokoblins, red mokoblins WHITE MOKOBLINS, LOL), virtually every fucking shrine is 2~ minute long with the most braindead puzzle in existence (literally only remember the star shrine) and the combat somehow manages to be worse than even the Witcher 3s and yea, it's straight mediocrity's incarnate.

It's essentially Nintendos MGSV. A great foundation with a great engine mixed in with the most mediocre and bland content imaginable.

But go ahead, convince yourself that collecting 900 pieces of tree poop was fun
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>>384974003
>The game was fun but it's not even a quarter as good as you're making it sound. The next Zelda will most likely be even worse because kids didn't really like BOTW and it was a pretty forgettable game among us adults.
Forgot the final sentence.
Nintendo will not more backwards, instead they'll try to move toward even stranger tides in regards to Zelda.

>>384974221
>I didn't like it
Where did I say that?
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>>384974221

>Both of switch is getting raped by the Sony equivalent

Really makes you think
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>>384969478
you're a dumb cunt
the gymnastics to associate cel shading with reddit is fucking mindblowing

kill yourself immediately
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maybe for now, but not for long

>>384962818
also a good contender, but I'd put this as last gen
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>>384962673
When it doesn't have the blurry fog effect over everything, which is sadly very rarely.
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>>384974205
Gravity Rush is 80% the fuck amazing control scheme. The shit you do is pretty basic but it's just so goddamn amazingly fun to do it.
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>>384973783
>it did what Zelda should have been doing for the last 15 years.
I don't really agree. I do think the series stagnated a bit and that BotW is (kill me) a breath of fresh air, but I wouldn't want every Zelda game to be like BotW. There's a lot to be said for the tight pacing of a game like A Link to the Past.
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>>384974396
the game loses steam after ~50 hours because the quests aren't good, but the actual world exploration (climbing stuff, navigating the landscape) is 10/10

too bad there isn't much to it besides seeing what's over the next mountain
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>>384974481
it's not ready on cemu, don't play a shit version of it
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>>384974205
That's it. That anon is full of it saying the controls are amazing. It's the most underutilized movement mechanic I can think of since everything just boils down to point and shoot.
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>>384974637

>There's a lot to be said for the tight pacing of a game like A Link to the Past.
But none of the 3D games after Ocarina had that tight pacing. They were all story driven games with linear progression. BotW went back to the total free roaming of the first Zelda, which is what Zelda should have been doing. LttP has a little story, but it still lets you explore the world freely. And that's what Zelda should be.
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>>384974689

>but the actual world exploration (climbing stuff, navigating the landscape) is 10/10

But it's not because literally 99% of the shit to find is shrine bait?

That's the fun in exploring. "Finding cool shit".

Even the fucking dragon thing that I found turned out to be nothing more than fucking shrine bait.

Open world games are NOTHING without good side quests. Want to prove me wrong? Well name me a "good open world game" with "shit tier side quests"
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>>384974205
Here have another
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>>384974794

>it's an insecure Switchfag mad that he's playing the worst version of the game

The game is literally online now with Cemu (as in Multiplayer).

PC wins again buddeh

>>384974848
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>>384974483
Damn. How do we save the Switch, Nintenbros?
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>>384974848

>That's what Zelda should be

Majority of the Zelda games say otherwise.
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I wish this would turn into a nice graphics thread instead of consolewar shit
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>>384963398
>good art direction
Someone post generic shots of the large plains
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>>384974483
NAND chips bro. It'll all get better come next year.

And no, Sony isn't conspiring with Apple to hog parts for any Nintendobros out there.
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>>384974848
>But none of the 3D games after Ocarina had that tight pacing.
I don't disagree with that. I'm just saying I don't think all Zelda games need to pattern themselves after Breath of the Wild, and I hope they don't.
>BotW went back to the total free roaming of the first Zelda
I understand this comparison, and they are similar in that respect, but it's a little misleading. The original game has pretty different priorities from BotW.
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>>384975301

>I-I-IT'LL GET BETTER, JUST YOU FUCKING WAIT

LOL
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>>384974848

> And that's what Zelda should be.

Says who?

Ocarina of Time is undeniably viewed as the best Zelda game in the series and it is nothing like BoTW.
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>>384962818
man, that's fucking smoooooth
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I found BotW really hideous. The lighting makes it look like shit almost 100% of the time.
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>>384975468

Not that guy, but it probably will. Holidays are usually good for console sales all around.
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>>384975637
>smooth
the animation is literally 24fps
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>>384975468
But it will. You can't be stupid not to believe that both Mario game and a mainline Pokemon won't slingshot the Switch straight to success, can you?
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>>384974794
Sure it is. Runs better than consoles atm
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>>384975773

Sure thing kiddies
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Step aside.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FWtq9ZxGlI
And the sequel looks even better.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ7RKhrF-oA
I don't care if /v/ hates it. It looks fucking amazing.
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>>384975771
cmon man don't bully him should just let him be happy no (you)'s
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>>384973592
Not even close. The scale of the world is massive compared to ES and Witcher, the vistas are expansive, and unlike those games there are no unplayable areas on the map. If you see it, you can go there, period.

Wanna try again?
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Still one of the most visual appealing games this gen for me.
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>>384962673
Most visually interesting for me is Dark Souls 1

It's a beautiful kind of ugly, it's hard to describe. I also lie how grotesque the designs are,
it's the perfect balance of fantasy and horror (without going fill edgelord mode like bloodborne)
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>>384975159

A majority doesn't rule over opinion. The 'majority' of people would say Avatar and Transformers are good movies because marketing tells them to like it. Doesn't mean they are right.

>>384975559

>Says who?
For years, a lot of fans were saying that. And more recently, Aonouma, who set out to make BotW total free roaming.
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>>384974396
>BoTWs open world was legit garbage
Another clueless child who understands nothing about game design. It's actually hilarious how little you kiddies actually know about games but feel the need to talk complete shit about them anyway. How embarrassing.
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>>384962673
yes it is
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>>384976093
too blurry and small

>>384976148
you can spout buzzwords all you want, the world is still legit garbage.
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>>384975910
/v/ already jinxed it. Just like they jinxed Horizon: Zero Dawn.By people saying it'll be a fail, it will do the opposite.

Be careful what you say anon. People thought the Wii U would be a break away hit and look where that turned into.
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>>384976050

Witcher 3 is objectively much bigger than Zelda. Novigrad alone is bigger than every Zelda city combined.

It also actually has good side content and some of the best quests in gaming.

Stay mad Nintenkiddie
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>>384976113
never mind, just realised OP said this gen
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>>384974396
>But go ahead, convince yourself that collecting 900 pieces of tree poop was fun

You don't have to collect 900. In fact - get this - you don't have to collect ANY if you don't want to. What else are you going to cry about?
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>>384974396

This may blow your mind, but different people have different tastes. I can't stand Final Fantasy or MGS for their story focus and progression. But clearly other people do. I'm not gonna write out a big blog post explaining why they shouldn't.
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>>384976124

>A majority doesn't rule over opinion.

And your opinion doesn't rule over the majority.

Facts are facts, far more Zelda games have followed the traditional formula relative to the first game so based on that fact alone, OoT, MM, WW etc are very much what "Zelda should be like".

>For years, a lot of fans were saying tha

Now THIS is rich.

First you lecture me on the flaws of using the "majorities opinion" and then you go on to do just that?

Fucking idiot.
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>>384976343
Too bad the devs of Witcher 3 have openly admitted that BotW blows their own game completely out of the fucking water. Oh dear, how will you recover?
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>>384976310
There are literally no threads about Horizon Zero Dawn on this board, right now
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>>384976124

>"The 'majority' of people would say Avatar and Transformers are good movies because marketing tells them to like it. Doesn't mean they are right."
>"For years, a lot of fans were saying that. "

You do see the contradiction, don't you?
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>>384976113
I thought DeS looked better but yeah DaS was pretty nice. It's a shame every game following was less interesting to look at.
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>>384976490

.Too bad the devs of Witcher 3 have openly admitted that BotW blows their own game completely out of the fucking water

Quote where they said exactly that, kiddo.

Last I checked Witcher 3 absolutely blew the fuck out of Zeldas sales, had a MUCH higher User Score and has more Awards than every Nintendo game combined.

Oh dear, how will you recover?
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>>384962818
As much as I love shilling BotW, P5 is unmistakably the most stylish game in recent memory. Switch port never
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>>384976472
>>384976124
It's pretty clear you just have autism. You can't argue with that guy, he is just making you look like a fool.
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>>384976490
>Praising BoTW as a good game =/= "It totally blows Witcher 3 out of the water"

You're lying m8

>>384976357

Shit side quests
Shit enemy variety
Shrines are shit

What else is there to do then? Glide around and kill the same enemy types but in different colors?
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>>384976676
It also sold over thrice as much.

>>384976490
Why? Because you can climb and glide? BOTW has nothing else.
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>>384976343
>Witcher 3 is objectively much bigger than Zelda
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>>384976676
>user score

kek
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>>384976490
>the devs of Witcher 3 have openly admitted that BotW blows their own game completely out of the fucking water

Why must you fucking lie on the internet Nintenkike? Witcher 3 will always be game of the decade for me.
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BotW is like a less good generic Ubisoft open world game
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>>384976889
Yes. Why would anyone take critics seriously after this?
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>>384976881
Damn, Zelda has a great ass.
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>>384976945
>how to easily tell someone hasn't played Botw
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>>384976975
Fuck off Journofag. Stop baiting the hapless idiots who can't spot your tired "arguments".
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>>384962818
Good job first post.

OP if you somehow actually believe that I recommend playing more games.
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>>384973189
Surely you aren't comparing Guilty Gear cel shading to the garbage in BotW.
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>>384976676
http://www.gamesradar.com/were-all-talking-about-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-developers-explain-how-its-shaping-the-future-of-games

Damien Monnier served as senior designer on The Witcher 3 at CD Projekt RED
>Breath of the Wild has managed to bring classic open world mechanics together while not relying on them to guide the player through its world. You go and explore it because you wonder what's out there, not because a loot icon tells you to.
>Nintendo have raised the bar when it comes to world crafting and this sense of total immersion I get when I play it. While its world includes classic open-world activities, collectibles and loot-filled mobs, it definitely doesn't feel overloaded and allows the focus be on the exploration. You want to explore this land whether or not you are on a quest, or being tasked to collect/gather something. You know, If you were to remove all NPCs, quests and mobs, I would still take pleasure in exploring that beautiful world.

Let's take a moment to laugh at how utterly pointless userscores are, especially when BotW was flooded with salty immature sonykiddies who couldn't stomach the over-whelmingly positive response to the game. Around 25% of the scores were 0/10 at one point.
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>>384970705
""""""""""accounting for inflation"""""""""""""""
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>>384977086
What are you talking about? Journalist a literally the cancer of the industry that everyone would be better off without. Are you implying that LoU deserves such praise for being another Naughty Dog movie?

I stopped caring about what 'journalist' say a while ago.
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>>384977190

>doesn't say anywhere in there that Zelda is better than the Witcher 3

So you did make that quote up?

Why would you make it up if you were confident in what you were saying, Nintenshill?

Witcher 3
Better user score
Much more awards
Much more sales

It wins on virtually every metric.
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>>384976487

>Facts are facts, far more Zelda games have followed the traditional formula relative to the first game so based on that fact alone
Almost no games followed the formula of Zelda 1 except Zelda 2 and BotW.

>OoT, MM, WW etc are very much what "Zelda should be like".
By your logic, all the Star Wars prequels and the upcoming fifty dozen Disney movies we're about to get should be "what Star Wars should be like", simply because they will outnumber the original trilogy. But almost no one will agree with that. Zelda is a little different since the 'majority' of people started the series with the 3D games. But still, even a lot of those people were growing tired of the Ocarina formula, which is exactly what Aonouma and Miyamoto pointed out in interviews. And why they made BotW go back to the series roots. To great success. Clearly people like the change. Oh wait, you're probably that same idiot above who thinks no one is allowed to like BotW.
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>>384976860
>Why? Because you can climb and glide? BOTW has nothing else.
Actually clueless. Why are all the kiddies on here so under-educated?
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I would have liked this game if ganon wasn't a reddit-tier spider and then a stationary boar that's essentially 9gag incarnate
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>>384977190
Let me guess. Sales and and playtime don't matter too. But yeah one PR dev who lied about his own game more than anyone else working on it means BOTW is good. Yeah right. You didn't even prove your claim right you dumb nigger.
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>BOTW praise thread
>"200 hours in and im still finding new stuff"
>"just finished a ""quest"" where i did this
>no new weapons
>no new enemies to fight
>most of the quests are just shrine bait
I'm at a point where even though I've beaten Ganon and only 33.3% done, finishing it just seems boring.
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>>384977190
Say what you will about CD Projekt but they're good at recognizing positive aspects of the competition. They were hugely inspired by Demon's Souls as well.
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>>384977312
They literally said BotW RAISED the bar. i.e. It's better than EVERYTHING else. Can you not read?
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>the hate for BotW begins
And the cycle continues unbroken. The blade shall be forged anew and the pieces of gold shall scatter. As predictable as the rising sun, so go the days of our lives.
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>>384977325
*tips fedora*
You autists are worse than MGSV and Asscreed fanboys.
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>>384977384
You should have 100% on the game (excluding korok seeds) after around 150 hours max, and that's stretching it

you can't be finding new stuff at 200 hours unless you were just retreading the same shit over and over
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>>384968228
I bet Monolith Soft helped with that, they're good at making grandiose-looking worlds on the cheap that don't tax too much power
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>>384977190
>>384976490


Zelda wasn't even game of the month. It got outsold by fucking Horizon Zero Yawn. Discussion for Zelda is already dead.

Witcher 3 is legit GOTG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DYwfr_DcR0

t. played both games
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>>384977449
You realize this cycle argument is just a way to deflect criticism away from new games for a few years, right?
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>>384976182
I'm just now realizing that BotW has the same aesthetic of those shitty indie walking simulators like Journey, except it somehow manages to look exponentially cheaper.
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>>384977438
>i.e. It's better than EVERYTHING else.
That term means it's above average you illiterate mong.
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>>384977312
>Better user score
kek.
>Much more awards
BotW only came out a few months ago. Do you honestly think it won't be GOTY?
>Much more sales
Wow. It MUST be better then. Kek.
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>>384977550
Cherry picking screen shots
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>>384977524
>Witcher 3 is legit GOTG
But Witcher 3 is a bad game with no redeeming qualities.
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>>384977438

In the areas he specified. They're entirely two different games with two entirely different genres.

Nowhere did he say "Zelda is better than Witcher 3".

And he shouldn't, because BoTW gets BTFO by Witcher 3 on every single metric.
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>>384977632
>UHHHHHHHHHH YOUR SCREENSHOT THAT MAKES THE GAME LOOK BAD IS CHERRYPICKED BUT MY SCREENSHOTS ARE A-OKAY, I'M NOT A BRAINDEAD CONSOLE WARRING SHILL AT ALL
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>>384977307
Broken clock. Twice a day ;)
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>>384977661
BotW has a far better physics engine
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>>384977190
Everyone rates everything 0 or 10 on metacritic. Crying that the 0s are evil unfair lies and the 10s are totes legit valid reviews just shows your own bias
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>>384977606

>kek.
"d-d-d-doesn't count"
>BotW only came out a few months ago. Do you honestly think it won't be GOTY?

Will it break the record like Witcher 3 tho? Call me when it does. Until then, Witcher 3 has more awards than every single Nintendo game, combined.
>Wow. It MUST be better then. Kek.
"d-d-d-doesn't count"

Damn you sure proved me wrong Nintenshill.

Your game got BTFO by fucking Last of Us. Sit down kid
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>>384977307
Oh great, it's a GamerGator. You realize that your shit isn't welcome here and hasn't been since 2014 when you were laughed off the site, right?
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>>384977769
Yeah, except when it 'right' it still manages to fuck up somehow.
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>>384962673
No, Bloodborne is.

BotW is up there though
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>>384975910
I have had enough of you people.

Be glad to not see the fury in my eyes, you will know that this is no game to me... Not making any threats. I am saying I am really really motivated to disprove everything you type. You see I can convert anger energy into intellectual energy. You probably can not comprehend what I am speaking of because you dismiss emotion as juvenile for "Nintendo kiddies" but through my perseverance and power of emotion. I am able to analyze situations & make my opponent look ridiculous.
So yeah feel my power radiate through my text and witness some schooling that will be studied through the ages. Nintendo is not just a company, it is a family, & treats there customers as if they were blood. The old maturity clause, why am I not surprised. I just explained my anger is allowing me to organize my thoughts & excel. I am a proud fan of Nintendo & that does not make me biased.
Nintendo is unique in that they provide excellent quality in their consumer electronics to customers. They also provide stellar customer service. Something haters neglect and tell me PS4 & Xbox are equally as good? **** no, they treat their consumers like mindless zombies & rip them off wherever & whenever they can in the name of capitalism.
Why am I not surprised that you pull out the maturity clause against me? Let me tell you something real maturity is not caring what other people think regarding the media you select to enjoy. There is an old saying that a bunch of kids play call of duty while the grown ups end up playing pokemon this reigns true. You see there is much more to maturity than the letter on the box.
So as you have seen my emotion helps me channel energy that you would seem to be afraid of. Haha. I'm sure you want me to "chill" now? Seems like someone is afraid of my growing power, Nintendo's growing power, and all of the other Nintendo fans growing in power as Nintendo gives us more and more reasons to support their excellent company.
Eat it, fangirl.
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>>384977802
There are far more butthurt forced 0s for BotW because of its exposure. Less people care for spamming 0 on some game by some eastern european guys.
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So is Zelda literally "Just Cause 2 - Nintendo edition"?

>DUDE, IT'S FUN IF YOU TURN OFF YOUR BRAIN, LMAO
>LOOK AT ALL OF THE WHACKY AND CUHRAAAAAAZY SHIT I CAN DO
>Actual content is complete shit
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>>384977905
Not how the analogy works. Just move on Journofag, you're obsessed and you haven't let this go despite how many times your argument has been put down as fallacious.
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>>384977560
The term 'raising the bar' means it's 'above average'.

Somebody screencap this idiot. The absolute state of the s0nygger.

'Raise the bar' means creating a new high standard or expectations. BotW is the new high standard to which all open world games will now be measured against. You should just accept it.
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>>384977312
>Better user score
Skyrim has a high user score as well
>Much more awards
More and more awards are created every year. Next year a game will get even more awards.
>Much more sales
Because the devs spent their entire 80 million dollar budget on advertising and hired pajeets to do all the developing for them for pennies
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>>384977953

And Witcher 3 is far more popular/Successful than any fucking Zelda game.

So by your own logic, it would have had far more "0s".

Witcher 3 has outsold every single Zelda game, you do know that right?
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>>384977869
>>>/t/umblr
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>>384962673
Not so fast.
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>>384978061

>Skyrim has a high user score as well
Wrong. It does have a higher user score than Zelda though, HAHAHAHAHA
>More and more awards are created every year. Next year a game will get even more awards.
Call. Me. When. It. Happens. Until. Then. Zelda. BTFO
>Because the devs spent their entire 80 million dollar budget on advertising and hired pajeets to do all the developing for them for pennies
Mad. As. Fuck

ZELDA BTFO
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>>384977384
>>384977480
It varies by how you play, yesterday someone with around 200 hours realised they never found a single giant boomerang due to their rarity.
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>>384977768
You basically admitted that your intentionally making the game look bad.

Nintendo put lots of hard work making this masterpiece, not just you and others to shit all over it. The game is a fucking marvel unparalleled to anything this gen or the last.
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>>384978084
Yeah but it has nothing on the series as a whole.
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BotW really needed big and extensive dungeons and Temples, a better lore, better sidequests, more buildings in town with more people, more legendary weapons
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>>384977661
>BoTW gets BTFO by Witcher 3 on every single metric.

BotW is the game people will still be talking about in 20 years time. Video game history can bow be split into BEFORE BotW and AFTER BotW. All the tears in the world won't change that.
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>>384977936
imagine being this autistic
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>>384978005
The actual content is good, though
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>>384978084
>MUH
>SSSSSSAAAAAAAAALLLLLEEEEEESSSSSS
And yet years down the line Zelda will be talked about still, Witcher 3 won't. I think the legacy is more important than the sales.
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>>384978201
>hey never found a single giant boomerang due to their rarity.
How? What rarity? I pick those up like fucking candy.

This person wasn't actually killing things.
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>>384978157
8707 vs 150

Wow you are right that is sad!
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>>384978196
I don't like either game, homie. They are both terrible.
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>>384977863
This mad at Nintendo. Kek.
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>>384977936
Holy cow is this some sort of copypasta?
I refuse to believe somebody has this much emotional attachment to a game console.
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>>384977318
BotW doesn't really follow Zelda 1's formula either, it's just open in a way reminiscent of it. The original game has a much bigger emphasis on dungeons, not unlike ALttP or OoT after it despite their increased linearity.
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>>384978341
Dude they're rare as fuck. I only found around 5 of them.
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>>384978259

Witcher 1, 2 and 3 have more sales than every Zelda game combined tho.

Zelda has never been a big seller
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>>384978275
I realize this is a troll post so I'm not even mad
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>>384978348
>tries to prove botw is a better game
>posts screenshots of it looking hideous
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>>384978058
You're literally a nigger with no grasp on your own language.

BOTW didn't do anything new and it didn't do anything well. But keep putting faith in that lying shill that didn't even say what you implied he did.
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>>384978413
>>384978307
Not autistic but I must admit I am attached to the switch in a more than superficial way.

It is truly the first Nintendo console I don't play for the games alone for over 15 years. I play because I LOVE the hardware. When I stand next to it after getting dressed, I like to pick up my joy-cons, feel them in my hands, maybe put them onto the Switch, pull it out and feel it in my hands. Maybe switch it on, look at my ever growing library of games (that is most certainly already bigger than in WiiU's entire first year ). It's not like the Gamepad or the Wiimote's wonky motion controls that always made my gaming experiences a tad uncomfortable.
I don't care if the first year is mostly ports as long as I can play them on a console I actually really like. Same goes for Nindies. And I can't wait to play SNES and N64 games on it. I, as a personal sentiment, don't need AAA titles that look graphically so realistic they all look the same.
Finally, I realized that Switch is Nintendo's first non-gimmick since GameCube. Instead of changing how we play, the Switch changes where and when we can play and this is something that differentiates Nintendo from PS4 & Xbox who think putting even more chest hair on an NPC would make a game better.
My anger gets the better of me sometimes but I will calm down.
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>>384978329

Nice speculation bro, call me when that happens.

Fun fact, /wtc/ is more active than /lozg/ and the former is a 2 year old game.

Zelda hype is already dead
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>>384978157
A s0nygger just brought up Crash as an argument against BotW.
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>>384978582
>Not autistic
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>>384978515
>BOTW didn't do anything new
Conceptually? No, but it executed several previously explored concepts excellently, in a single game, and refined them quite a bit.

>didn't do anything well
Imagine being so buttblasted you begin using blatantly false absolutes like this.
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>It's a Sonergo shits up another Zelda thread level

Jesus, don't you guys want play Horizon or something?
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>b-but it didn't raise the bar!
>witcher 3 is better!
Today I will remind them:
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-06-05-how-will-the-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-change-the-open-world-paradigm
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>>384978515
No surprise that BotW haters are racist. Let me guess, Witcher 3 is superior a priori because it was made by muh master race (white people)?
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>>384978236
>You basically admitted that your intentionally making the game look bad.
No, it always looks bad any time you get close to ANYTHING. The entire game looks like shit under the slightest scrutiny.

>Nintendo put lots of hard work making this masterpiece
lol no they didn't, they put their b-team on it and just blew loads of money on autistic focus testing
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>>384978629
Nice anecdotal evidence, but Witcher 3 is not the game still being talked about everywhere else outside of your circlejerk sphere. Zelda is.
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>>384978749
polish people are not real people
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>>384978515
>BOTW didn't do anything new and it didn't do anything well.
The denial never ends. I fucking love how mad you kiddies get over BotW.
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>>384978582
>When I stand next to it after getting dressed, I like to pick up my joy-cons, feel them in my hands, maybe put them onto the Switch, pull it out and feel it in my hands.
>Anon/Switch slash fiction
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>>384978476
>being this delusional
>Trying this hard to make GOTY arguable GOTD
look bad

Funny how anyone that criticizes Botw on here can't come up with a valid argument as to why it's bad.
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>>384978675
>No, but it executed several previously explored concepts excellently, in a single game, and refined them quite a bit.
It didn't. Not a single thing and it shed features fans loved about Zelda. it was an unfinished soulless husk of a game that has the lowest user score of any mainline title in recent history.
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>>384978771

>Zelda is.

Less people are talking about Zelda than Horzion Zero Yawn.

Your trash tier game wasn't even the best selling game in the week it came out, lmfao.

Nobody cares about Zelda shit buddeh. Gaming is forever known like this

"Before Witcher 3"

"After Witcher 3"
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>>384978669
Please let me elaborate more on what the console means to me as I am afraid you don't understand.
Yesterday evening, I was playing Mario Kart. It suddenly struck me that I am playing a console grade game on frickin handheld. I mean, look at 3DS and now this! I was so overjoyed by such a miniscule and old realization that I couldn't hold it in, I had tell my girlfriend who was watching tv of how amazing I think this console is.
I am not autistic I am passionate and my passionation some times comes across as autstication.
Whatever though. Think what you will.
Game on as they say, haha
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Can anyone here name a single other game with a chemistry engine so fine-tuned that you can light grass on fire, have that fire kill a wolf, which drops meat, take the meat, proceed to take out wood and drop it on the fire, have it catch alight with a campfire, then let that fire persist and warm up your temperature, then put a piece of meat next to it and have it dynamically change state into a cooked piece of meat that you can eat to recover even more health than it would have normally?

Nice job though, trying to hand wave that and make the game look shit because muh Witcher 3. BotW has a living, breathing world. Its map size is only part of it, more important are the environmental, climate-influenced and chemical interactions that make it come alive. Who the fuck cares if your generic levelling RPG number 502251 has a bigger or is "better on metrics" (whatever that means)? I doubt you can name a single more in-depth game released in the last 5 years, let alone this year.
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>>384978717
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW
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>>384962673
If so, it's a boring fucking gen.
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>>384978886
>Muh user score
How desperate are you? This is peak intellectual dishonesty on your part, stop pretending to be clueless just to make some hail-mary point that will spice up your shitposting.
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>>384977936
Somebody screencap this.
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>>384978830
Not him, but when I see the argument of BoTW being this revolutionary game like SM64 and Ocarina of Time, I get to thinking, what ways has BoTW changed open world since Ocarina, GTA 3, Skyrim, RDR, and Witcher 3?

Can you name a few? I'm legitimately curious and interested to hear your thoughts,
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nope
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>>384978871
>Funny how anyone that criticizes Botw on here can't come up with a valid argument as to why it's bad.
They do, you just don't want to acknowledge it. There is absolutely nothing anyone can say that would make you believe there is a single thing wrong with BotW, but that won't change the fact that it's a pretty uninspired, simple game that caters to the lowest common denominator crowd. It's the japanese equivalent of a AAA game, a blockbuster that plays it safe, carefully constructed to maximize sales without taking any risks.
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>>384978924
>I am not autistic I am passionate and my passionation some times comes across as autstication.
>/v/ - Video Games
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>>384978717
>paradigm
Aaaand opinion disregarded.

Why should I give a fuck about what some failed English major thinks of a game? He probably hasn't played TW3 for more than 3 hours.
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>>384978418

Fair enough. I guess I should say BotW followed Zelda 1 in having total freedom. Which only Zelda 2 had done. It was similar in the overworld, but not the underworld segments.

Hopefully the next Zelda game can have the same massive overworld, but just have real dungeons/temples as well. Though if I'm totally honest, the dungeons are not really my favorite part of Zelda. I would even say a Zelda game doesn't need them, as heretical as that is. I'd be happy if we just had a lot more overworld areas that were mazes or required combat skill to pass. And maybe some underground segments like the temples in Zelda 2, which focus more on combat and endurance over puzzles. Imagine of BotW had underground pathways that allowed you to warp from one end of the map to another (like the warp system in Zelda 1). But instead of just instantly teleporting you, you had to navigate a long hallway of hard enemies to get to the end. Then after you clear all the enemies, the enemies don't spawn any other time you try to use the path. Of course, this becomes pointless since BotW has a warp function.
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>>384976182
Where is that blue Spear Lynel located? There's four I fight regularly for guts and I don't recognize that location.

Since this is a bait thread let me throw in some screenshots ruined by the hub being visible
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>>384976357
True. If we dislike a game's content we -don't- have to do it. What do we call that again? Oh yeah. Not playing a shit game. Good call bro.
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>>384962673
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>>384979150
Read the article retard, it's the opinion from a leading witcher 3 dev.
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>>384978924
don't stop you autist
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>>384979064
interactivity and physics. The technology stuff from MGS but spread out everywhere in open world
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>>384979171
>Ruined by the hud
>Not the obnoxious color stomping vaseline filter
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Old Link king of Hyrule and you play as a Gerudo boy when?
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>>384977936
>>384978582
>>384978924
>I am not autistic I am passionate and my passions nation some times comes across as autistication
>autistication
a meme is born
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>>384962673
What is it about tall grass in games that turns you peopple on so much?
I bet no one would give a shit about this game's visual if the grass wasnt so tall.
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>>384976357
>What else are you going to cry about?
he addressed plenty of the other shortcomings in that whole post you conveniently ignored.
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>>384962673
We all know what the true game of the generation is. You can stop shilling now.
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>>384979046
And suddenly Sony... Can you go a day without putting cock in your mouth?
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BotW is an example of graphical design over graphical power. Not unlike Dragon Quest VIII or Okami. It did its job as well as it could on the hardware.
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>>384979121
They turned a dungeon based franchise into an Open World one, how is that not a risk?
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>>384979064
He can roll an apple down a hill. It's like TES but uhh better because there are less quests, dungeons, and interesting things to collect.
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>>384979121
>but that won't change the fact that it's a pretty uninspired, simple game that caters to the lowest common denominator crowd.
Hmmmmmm...>>384978717
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>>384979290
it gives me a sense of freedom. I can easily escape my gray world
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>>384979171
the UI in this game is a nightmare
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>>384979064
see
>>384978939

Also having dynamic rain fill various pieces of land with water. It can rain, come back to an open are and have there be a puddle. The puddle you can then interact with in various ways. Fire creates up wind currents you can use to sweep things into the air or move up yourself.

Metallic weapons can conduct electricity. I remember one puzzle where you could lay out your weapons on the ground and create your own ground electrical current.

These are just a few.
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>>384979157
I prefer the smaller, denser maps of previous Zelda games, but I respect what BotW does.
>>384979150
Why are you so intimidated by that word?
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>>384978924
>autistication
Include me in the screencap
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>>384974513
This
All Xenoblade games were the most visually interesting games of their respective gens
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>>384979261
Believe it or not there are people here who think a visible hud is the biggest offensive you could possibly do
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>>384979318
Both of those games honestly look better when rendered at modern resolutions though.
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>>384978871

>Side quests
Are for the most part, extremely mediocre and almost exclusively fetch quests/shrine bait. Take the only two widely accepted good side quests. Tarry Town and Evantide Island

Tarry Town is nothing but fetch quest bait and Eventide Island is essentially the Great Plateau but far worse and much shorter. No story, no interesting characters, no cool loot (another fucking shrine) nothing but more of what you had already been doing the past 20~ hours leading up to you finding that quest which essentially is, collecting shit and fighting the same reskinned enemies.

>Story
Does it even need to be argued? It's typical Zelda "save duh world" shit.

>Shrines
2~ minute long sections that have 1~ puzzle to solve that didn't even trouble DSP. The only memorable shrine was that star one

>Dungeons
Interesting in design but gameplay wise, they fall flat as fuck. They're essentially, "slightly longer shrines" with a boss fight at the end.

>Combat
Somehow, Nintendo made a worse combat system than Witcher 3. Flurry rush completely breaks the game and entirely trivialises the only "somewhat" hard enemies with the Lynels.

>Open world
Fun for the first 10 hours (literally the only good thing in the game) but once you realize that there's fucking NOTHING to find outside of the same reskinned enemies ("Oh, a Frost bat!" "Oh, a lightning bat!", "Oh, a frost Lizard", "Oh, a fire Lizard!", "Oh, a white Mokoblin!", "Oh, a red Mokoblin!"), another fucking shrine or literal TREE POOP, you quickly get bored and lose all motivation to explore.

Before I get called a Sonyegro, here's a picture I made in game via fraps.

The game is essentially Just Cause 2 and MGSV tier. A great engine/foundation with absolute shit tier content and disgustingly repetitive game design.

I would trade every single "WOAH, LOOK AT HOW FUCKING CUHRAAAAAZY THIS IS" moment for some actual fucking good side quests.
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>>384979330
Open world is popular. That's why its not a risk. They just shamelessly slapped their IP on a SANDBOX game (zelda has always been open world) because that is what guaranteed sales.
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>>384979121
you type all that out yet you still have yet to name a flaw in any detail.
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>>384979515
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>>384979402
So turn it off.

The game literally calls the UI "baby mode" and the minimized UI "pro mode"

It's supposed to punish you for turning it on.
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>>384979407
>I remember one puzzle where you could lay out your weapons on the ground and create your own ground electrical current.
It's weird the game actively works against you trying to solve puzzles like that though. Weapons despawn if left alone for too long. It's not distance it's time based.
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>>384979515

DELETE THIS RIGHT FUCKING NOW
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>>384979448
Love the three shades the game comes in.
>Faded green
>Faded blue
>Faded brown
At least its not so bad indoors. Noticed this collage was heavy on indoor shots. Good call.
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>>384978717
>it lets you climb anything - if you have the stamina to do so
Oh look. Abilities used to progress the story. Just like every single other zelda game.
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>>384979515
Nice wrong opinion :^)
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>>384979407
>literal worthless gameplay gimmicks that add no substance
>GOTG!!!!!!!!!!!
(you)
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>>384979448
>literally a screenshot compilation of female characters, most of them ugly, some of them furry-tier
Zelda fans everyone.
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>>384979515
BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
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>>384979150
triggered brainlet lol
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>>384979515

NINTENDORKS BTFO
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>>384979717
That's probably just because most of the girls are inside since this is a waifu image
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>>384979515
And now the thread will get deleted.
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>>384973189
Only game that did it right was jet set radio

Guilty gear and Botw look like shit fuck off.
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>>384979886
>>384979843
>>384979838
sonygerms please
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>>384979771
Can you really say "some" when it's just two animal people

Or is this a black joke
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>Nintenniggers ask for "one flaw"

>>384979515

*crickets*
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>>384979515
Uh... Sweetie I'm gonna need to ask you to delet this.
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>>384979515
>Pirate doesn't appreciate game he got for free
No surprise there. Go play another one of the 500 games you downloaded today for another 2 hours before your ADHD gets tired and moves to the next piece of stolen intellectual property. It will never fill the void in your life.
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>>384979971
>sonygerms
what did he mean by this
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>>384979515
> another fucking shrine or literal TREE POOP, you quickly get bored and lose all motivation to explore.

This is what makes it a bad game. The actual world itself is good. How you explore is interesting. But there's no reason. Your rewards for exploring are one of two things. A tree nugget or a spirit nugget. Both of which are pretty useless once you figure out how to move around without stamina and it's one of the first zeldas where even the inept can go around with 3 hearts.
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>>384979407
>These are just a few.
The metal weapon thing and the stasis rune are the only examples anyone ever mentions.
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Zelda is an appetizer for pic related, at lest in terms of world design/visuals
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>>384979515
>Cemu

Kek. Opinion discarded.
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>>384980030
Oh, so nintendies defend botw so vehemently because they can only afford 1 switch and 1 game.
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>>384979515

f-f-f-fuck bros..

*coughs*

f-f-fuck
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>>384980070
>single player MMO

in the trash it goes
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>>384962673
fuck no, why would anyone even think this
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>>384980232
considering MMOs have better combat than jRPGs that's not a bad thing
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>>384963510
>waaaa the leddit boogeyman
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>>384980127
>>384980030
see
>>384979121

You fags asked for flaws, he listed them and now you're damage controlling
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>>384979515
You don't realize that the really good shrines are the blessings, because there was an intersting/fun challenge in getting to them in the first place.
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>>384979515
fucking hell m8
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>>384979515
Saved. I should really make a cap for this one if this thread doesn't get deleted by mods.
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>>384980150
Has nothing to do with funds. BotW is the only good game for their favorite console.
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>>384979515
>Side quests
One thing I appropriated a bout the side quests were that they forced you to think for yourself. No glowing trail or giant marker showing you where to go and exactly where to go.

>Story
What do you expect for a Zelda a game? Also we still have he Champions DLC

>Shrines/ Dungeons
I'll give you this to an extent but Runes were one of the best things added to the game. The amount of freedom they give you to solve puzzles is appreciated.

>Combat
I will agree the combat is flawed but again you are met with great freedom here. I found myself getting creative trying to come up with unique ways to defeat enemies. Some of the craziest plans worked.

>Open World
The great thing is you don't even have to explore 90% of it. No one is forcing you. Finding a corrupted dragon on top of a mountain is still pretty damn cool.
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>>384980271
>lets take the husk of a MMO and shit it up with jrpg autism
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>>384979515

ZELDA FAGS ABSOLUTELY BLOWN THE FUCK OUT

MY SIDES
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>>384979515
>Somehow, Nintendo made a worse combat system than Witcher 3.
I just had to see this sentence to know you're baiting hard. Also, flurry rush is completely useless against Lynels with a crusher weapon.
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>>384980392
and it works

see: FFXIV, the best MMO on the market
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>nintendo children getting triggered cause their games are shit

beautiful
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>>384980127
when you absolutely, positively have no rebuttal whatsoever
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These BotW bashing threads reminds me of the old Red Dead Redemption threads. People throwing out the dumbest complaints about the game like "It has shit all for side content!" and then someone would make a list of the hunts, gambling, horse wrangling, bandit hideouts, bounty hunting, quick draw, rank challenges and etc you could do.

BotW has a similar list of stuff. In fact, it has a lot more.
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>>384976975
This will never not piss me off; when they first announced this product and show the gameplay, the game seemed so varied and visceral; the animations and general TECHNOLOGY seemed so over the top, that it was amazing to see it in action. And then when it was released, it had this pretty interesting story (for a video game), but the gameplay was just so shit and repetitive, along with some poor level design, just killed it. Plus the AI partner being mentally challenged didn't help and the tacked on online mode.
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>>384979121
>simple game that caters to the lowest common denominator crowd.
And here we have the crux of why you show up in every thread.

You know it's a good game. You know it's going to be one of the best games this year. You don't hate it because you think it's bad.

You hate it because you need to assert that you are better than people who like it, due to your own insecurities over having achieved nothing in your life. You need to feel you are better than the "lowest common denominator crowd".
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What a shit thread.
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>>384980053
okay you can create an airship
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>>384980364

Not the guy you're responding to but I would like to have a dialogue about this because I agree with everything he said and Zelda is a pretty damn mediocre game imo.

>One thing I appropriated a bout the side quests were that they forced you to think for yourself. No glowing trail or giant marker showing you where to go and exactly where to go.
But that's more of a positive with the actual game philosophy as opposed to the actual side quests being good.
>The amount of freedom they give you to solve puzzles is appreciated.
I'll concede that, still thought the shrines/dungeons suffered because of it. Here's hoping they improve on this with the next installment
>Finding a corrupted dragon on top of a mountain is still pretty damn cool.
And what isn't cool is finding out that the corrupted dragon was ANOTHER FUCKING SHRINE
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>>384978717
>the opinion of a Witcher 3 Lead Developer was almost ignored completely
>>384979515
>the opinion of some random anon got 10+ "nintenturd BTFO" replies

You can really tell it's euro hours of /v/ when the pro-sony/anti-nintendo shitposting is at an all-time high.
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>>384980463
> rebuttal for “it’s bad, I don’t like it”
Here’s one: “it’s good, I like it”
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>>384962857
He never claimed anything. Stop trying to stir up shit you piece of fuck. No one cares how many hearts you need, nor if its a casual game.

How fucking old are you? Have you gotten to 3rd grade yet and learned how to stay on topic in conversations?
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>>384976875
you're seriously questioning this?
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>>384980494
If you ever thought it was going to be good you're a retard. It looked like the typical western AAA to me. i.e., it looked like shit for journalists to lap up because of its "emotional depth" or "dynamic pacing" or "challenging themes", and not actually a real game.
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>played the game for like 70 hours
>truly enjoyed it but cant really keep playing
>/v/ praises it like its god sent

I honestly would rank it at least as second or third best Zelda.
They made a massive world but sacrificed a lot of elements that makes zelda "Zelda".
Like theres so many characters now that none of them are really memorable. And the huge lack of cutscenes and plot really made a difference.
I wanted shit like finding out Sheik is Zelda, or fighting Dark Link as a boss, or the fear of the moon falling in three days, or traveling through light and dark realms, or travel in time, change seasons, etc.
In BoTF its just a bunch of samey shrines, a huge map, and you can climb straight walls. Thats it.
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>>384980364
if player agency and random shit in the world is what you want there is several HUNDRED WRPGs that do all of that better, pretty much everything pre-2003ish
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>>384979750
>>
Anyone comparing ALTTP to BOTW is blind. There are no dungeons comparable in scale in BOTW when there is one at all. Oot and MM weren't completely linear and had more substantial points of interest, you could also complete the dungeons in any order in Oot. Item finding in those games and TWW was fun and offered some variety beyond needing something for one thing. The games were interesting until after the Minish Cap and then it was fucked, TWW was kind of weak but it was fun at least. At TP the series became a train wreck. The one good thing I can say about BOTW is It's TLOZ with 'member this moments. I honestly think stocking inventory with food and drink and being able to change into a million shitty armies with a million shitty weapons like WRPGs doesn't work here. There's nothing to do. There's only one thing you really have to do. take it as a TLOZ clone but stop getting like "When they brought in Shadow The Hedgehog that was by far the highlight of the series don't steal my originel artwork" about it
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>>384980583
Bro chill the fuck up.
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>>384979729
the article was about far more than that, are you illiterate or something?
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>>384980542
You mean the physics engine is so bugged out you can get yourself to fly by putting two mine carts together.

Zelda's physics engine is so shit you can create a perpetual motion machine.
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>>384980407

>I just had to see this sentence to know you're baiting hard.
That's not an argument

Witcher 3s builds, two dodge mechanics make its combat system objectively more in depth than Zeldas.

Shit, even its boss fights were far better some how.

>Also, flurry rush is completely useless against Lynels with a crusher weapon.

How? You side dodge their slam attack and flurry rush them down and back away when they do their 360 spin attack, rinse and repeat?

Fucking scrub
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Somehow you took this >>384979515
and got this >>384980582
Wew lad.
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>>384980672
> capping your own posts
Pathetic, sonegro
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>>384979515
It's always same subjective nonsense. What one person likes, another will hate. Never, ever once raising an actual genuine fault with the game.

And every hater completely buries their heads in the sand when actual industry devs explain why the game is such a milestone:

http://www.gamesradar.com/were-all-talking-about-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-developers-explain-how-its-shaping-the-future-of-games

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-06-05-how-will-the-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-change-the-open-world-paradigm

Watch as this post get ignored too.
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>>384980578

>opinion of the Witcher 3 lead Developer had no real arguments other than a few vague buzzwords
>the opinion of that "random anon" had actual in depth criticisms with the games mechanics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority
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>>384980497
imagine being this dense
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>>384980786
Not my post, nigger. >>384980353
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>>384980704
flurry rush doesn't work against their slam attack due to the huge radius from the explosion. Witcher 3's hitboxes are broken beyond belief, I'd post that webm if I had it on me; BotW uses its physics engine for a lot of its combat, so I'd argue that it has far more depth than W3's more traditional combat style.
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>>384980804

Just like Nintenbros hid their heads in the sand when Witcher 3 and Last of Us got more awards than every single Nintenbro game ever made.

Really makes you think.
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>>384980618

>They made a massive world but sacrificed a lot of elements that makes zelda "Zelda".
Aside from the lack of dungeons, what else?

>Like theres so many characters now that none of them are really memorable.
Odd. Most people think the characters in BotW are very memorable. I certainly like them more than the characters in Twilight Princess or Skyward Sword. Not all of them are perfect, but they feel like they have a lot more detail than in other games.

>And the huge lack of cutscenes and plot really made a difference.
Yeah. It made BotW better. In fact, the biggest negative in BotW are the cutscenes and voice acting. They should have gotten rid of all of them.

>I wanted shit like finding out Sheik is Zelda, or fighting Dark Link as a boss, or the fear of the moon falling in three days, or traveling through light and dark realms, or travel in time, change seasons, etc.
So you wanted yet another Ocarina game with a gimmick attached.

>In BoTF its just a bunch of samey shrines, a huge map, and you can climb straight walls. Thats it.
And about two dozen other things to do.
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>>384980660
>you could also complete the dungeons in any order in Oot.
You have to complete them in the order:
Forest>Fire>Water>Shadow>Spirit
or
Forest>Fire>Water>Spirit>Shadow

Any other order is a meme caveat order that involves not getting all chests, or using glitches, or going halfway into a dungeon to get an item.
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>>384979515

>Not a single rebuttal
>"D-D-D-DUDE, C-C-C-CDPR SAID IT'S GOOD!"

When will Nintendorks stop getting BTFO
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>>384980487
RDR is also a bad game, though?
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>>384981001
stop replying to yourself
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>>384980609
What they originally showed and what the consumer actually got, were two different products. It was actually amazing. Instead of creating bullshots, they created a bullvideo.
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>>384980959
You can do water before Fire IIRC
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thi thread is going so fast nobody is going to notice tfw nobody replies to your boob lady post that resembles trap link
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>>384980818
when half the thread is claiming W3 is better than BotW, it's very relevant info that a lead developer of the game praised BotW and cited it as having "raised the bar" of open world games. Meanwhile, half the shit that random anon said is barely explained at all, we don't even know for sure if that's actually his screencap (let alone the fact he barely seems to have done anything, with only 8 hearts and low-tier weapons)
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>>384968596

Are you actually claiming that that playdoh looking shit that is BOTW looks more intersting/better than that picture?

If you are unironically doing this please cease your existance.
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>>384980804
>It's always same subjective nonsense
Anon, those were very objective critiques. Are you sure you aren't retarded?
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>>384980906
not him, but how is that even relevant?
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>>384981139
“these concepts don’t appeal to me” isn’t objective criticism
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>>384963510
retard
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>>384980895

>flurry rush doesn't work against their slam attack due to the huge radius from the explosion

But it 100% does?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYeAjy82LaA

He dodges it right at 1:49

You just suck

>BotW uses its physics engine for a lot of its combat, so I'd argue that it has far more depth than W3's more traditional combat style.

Going by that logic any shitty meme game with physics has "GOAT TIER combat systems" which just isn't the case.

Witcher 3 has multiple builds, fully fleshed out magic, potions that have actual buffs unlike Zeldas beyond generic potions and the mechanics overall are significantly more in depth.

What can you do in Zelda, knock people over a cliff with a bomb? You can do that in Witcher 3 as well with Aard.
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>>384981171

How is it not?
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>>384980804
y-yeah well some anon playing the game in cemu said it's shit so shut up!
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>>384981065
You can and also I did partial plays of each dungeon until I got to the end of every one around the same time to make it more like ATTP on my first play through and some later ones so I'd have more to do which was probably what they would have originally wanted anyway
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>>384980906
Really? You Nintendo are probably the most revered video game developer on the planet right? Do a quick google of the greatest games of all time and let me know how many Nintendo games there are.

Do you see how immature and pointless your 'argument' is?

By the way, I have a PS4 and I've played both TLOU and W3. Both amazing games. But BotW is better.
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>>384979515
This post and its replies is why this board needs IDs
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>>384981256
>these concepts don’t appeal to me
What would you consider objective?
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>>384980950
You didnt need to respond to each line, I'm not about to argue about why this game doesn't feel like a Zelda game. Anyone who is old to the series can see it.
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>>384981139
You don't even know the difference between 'objective' and 'subjective'.

KYS
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>>384981290
that's not the attack I'm talking about, I mean the one where they typically jump in the air for large slam with an explosion. You can see it in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0qKrIJRz_0
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>>384981491
>I have a PS4 and I've played both TLOU and W3
I also have a PS4 and both TLOU and W3 were absolute garbage. If the types of people who fall for that horse shit are the people who like BOTW that really explains a lot.
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>>384967312

This is the best post in the whole thread.
>>
Guys, botw is a great game and all, but playing with my own feces is a lot more fun subjectively to me.

Don't try to argue otherwise, because fun is subjective.
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>>384981590
Give me an example of an objective critique.
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>>384981080

Here's another screenshot of mine with more hearts. I only use enough to get the Master Sword, the game gets far too easy when you max out.

What more did you need me to elaborate on? 4chan has a word count, so I kept my points brief and concise. Disagree? Provide a rebuttal

>of the game praised BotW and cited it as having "raised the bar" of open world games

And I disagree just like I disagreed with the countless people who claimed Witcher 3 did.

Neither Witcher 3 nor Zelda did anything revolutionary. Witcher 3 is a typical open world RPG and Zelda is more of a sandbox like Just Cause 2.
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>>384981717
BotW files have less total bytes than Witcher 3.
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>>384981171
>t-that's irlellervent!
Nice head ducking, bro.
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>>384981690
but you don't get diseases from playing with BotW?
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>>384981798
nice strawman
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>>384981618

Yea, every one of the lynels has that attack and you never flurry rush it, you run away from it and bait them into their combo.

Backward dodge for their one handed sword combo
Side dodge for their 2handed slam attack

It's that simple
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>>384981747
>Witcher 3 is a typical open world RPG
pls do not call witcher 3 a RPG
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>>384981747

>chan has a word count,

Actually it has a character count

which you could easily save on

by not typing like this

in all your posts

and your replies to yourself
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>>384962673
>most visually interesting
looks awful to me
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>>384962857
true
i always thought this while hunting em down
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>>384979515

>still not a single rebuttal

Did this based Anon end the Zelda meme overnight?
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>>384977352
Kek
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>>384981717
The framerate issue is an an objective complaint.

The inventory management is an objective complaint.

Complaining about the music is subjective.
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>>384974492

Well he found you out didn't he?
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>>384981690
No BOTW is objectively subjective in that It's a choice you have to make or agree with and compliment

Kind of like how It's better for you to let a nigger creampie your whatever the creature or non of your affection on the coffee table while you watch
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>>384981747
Honestly if you dislike the game there's nothing wrong with that, your points are valid even if very vague and subjective. I do find it odd that people are taking your opinion as objective proof that the game is shit, though; people should form their own opinions on the game.
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Zelda has always been a reddit series. Picture the average person who has some kind of Zelda meme handbag or Zelda pin on their bag, or a Zelda desktop or ringtone.

Now picture their bookmarks. What do you see? That's right. REDDIT
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>>384981842
this isn't an argument on whether the enemy is difficult to fight, this is purely about the fact flurry rushes cannot be used against every attack like you had initially claimed.
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>>384962673

Yes
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>>384982163
literally kys
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>>384982128
how can I picture reddit if I've never been there?
You don't go there, do you?
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>>384981569

>Anyone who is old to the series can see it.
Only if you started with the series with or after Ocarina of Time. If you started the series with Zelda 1 on NES like I did, BotW feels like Zelda returning to its roots. Which I've been waiting 20 years for.
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>>384982051

I do enjoy aspects of the game. It's a fun game if you "turn your brain off". Usually I play it with the sound off while i'm waiting for UFC or boxing to start just like I did with Just Cause 2.

It's still very flawed and nowhere near as overrated as /v/ pretends (or really, most people pretend with every Zelda game post Majoras Mask).

> I do find it odd that people are taking your opinion as objective proof that the game is shit,

Never claimed the game was shit and none of my points were meant to argue that.

I do think that the side quests are objectively flawed though. Stuff like the Shrines/Dungeons are subjective because people might prefer Quantity > Quality.

I didn't.
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>>384982136

>flurry rush used on every attack

Quote where I said that.

All I said is flurry rush breaks the game and it does. Nowhere did I claim that it can be used on every attack, you made that up.
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Ya the game sucks but the first 10 hours were one of my best moments in gaming
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>>384979515

>all of the Zelda shills have left the thread with tears in their eyes

Based piratefag
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>>384982549
I'm still here
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>>384982428
And perfect dodge breaks Monster Hunter. What's your point? People shouldn't be rewarded for having good timing?
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>>384982356
>A great engine/foundation with absolute shit tier content and disgustingly repetitive game design.
I thought that statement was your way of saying he game is shit, but I guess no then?

In my opinion, the dungeons are quality > quantity, since they're small and completely puzzle-focused but they pull that off well; whilst the shrines are quantity > quality as you said (although there a few shrines that stood out to me, like blue flame and that one that's like an obstacle course [forget the name]).
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ALL RIGHT, STOP FOR JUST A MINUTE

I want you guys to reply to me and tell me, honestly, seriously, what do you have against us liking Zelda? What do you have against us liking a GOOD GAME so much that you have to come into our threads and actively ruin them?

No one else acts like this. We don't come into your threads and ruin them, it's only Zelda and Nintendo games that get shit on. What was it? The praise at the time of release? Well it's OVER. So you need to get over it and just let us enjoy our game in peace, please. Is that so hard?
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>>384982428
my mistake, I guess I misread one of your posts. Still, I feel people grossly exaggerate the usefulness of flurry rushing parrying is the real broken mechanic once you know how to use it, it's only slightly harder than a flurry rush since the window is generally smaller, but it can counter just about everything if done correctly (even that explosion radius shown before)
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>>384974003
>people don't like breath of the wild

You fucking dumb ass nigger, BotW has over a 1.0 attach rate. There are more copies of Breath of the Wild for switch than there are fucking switches. By what fucking metric could you possibly state that a game with over a million sales, which once again the total is greater than the CONSOLE IT'S FUCKING ON, could possibly be considered a game that "kids didn't really like".

Moron.
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>>384982743
>b-but you can't say my game is bad!
It's a bad game. That's all. It annoys me when people are wrong around me. I go into threads for plenty of games to do this.

Maybe one day I'll get tired of pointing out people are wrong, and instead be content in my superiority over casuals with bad taste. But that day is not today.
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>>384982656

>but I guess no then?
Yep, you guessed wrong

I would be an idiot to say the game was downright shit. I just think it's roughly a 6/10, an above average game.

>In my opinion, the dungeons are quality > quantity

I was kind of including Shrines and Dungeons (which are like I said, bigger shrines). I would have gladly taken 10~ Divine Beasts or shit, even 5 Hyrule Castles over the 100+ Shrines that we have in the game.
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>>384982278
So you like bare bones TLOZ where you roam aimlessly and get some stuff

ok that's a subjective opinion but my subjective opinion is that up to LA it was a psuedo linear progression of gaming that was made more commercially successful by limitations on the N64 and then OoS and OoA were comparably more fleshed out afterword but we're not commercially successful, so they've tried everything to skew the games to new markets in the same way to gain capitol even though they know the games aren't as well crafted

And BOTW is going back to square one but with the same half assedness
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these wojaks are amazing
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The first 180 hours were amazing but after that it was boring as fuck.
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>>384982642

>And perfect dodge breaks Monster Hunter. What's your point?

1. The dodge window in Monster Hunter is far smaller than Zeldas, you're being disingenuous by implying otherwise
2. The flurry rush literally teleports you a whole 20+ metres to your target with fucking bullet time slow motion allowing you to spam the attack button and do ridiculous damage

You're just getting desperate now with these false equivalences.
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>>384962818
>Visual novel
>Game
It's a damm goos visual novel but bruh
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>>384982863
And there are basically no sales for the switch, so this means nothing. It is currently the only game even remotely worth buying on it (even though ultimately it's still not worth it), so naturally anyone buying it will also buy the game.

BotW was essentially a scam to get people to buy both the switch and the Wii U. People have spent upwards of 1000 dollars in anticipation for a single Zelda installment.
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>>384982743

This was never intended to be a BOTW thread. Clearly OP wanted someone to post Persona 5 and make the thread about that game.
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>>384982915
I don't think the dungeons are like the shrines aside from aesthetically. I would've liked a couple dungeons in the hyrule castle style, but otherwise I liked what we got already. I'd rate the game a 9 - despite some flaws, I feel the game nailed what it was meant to do (exploration with an emphasis on physics and puzzles), but I can also understand someone rating it far lower if they had different expectations from the game or from the genre.
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>>384976182

>this is my first open world game and wow what a sunset
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>>384983023
So your problem with flurry rush is not that it breaks the game, but it's too easy to do?

You would be happy with it if it had a dodge window the same as Monster Hunter? Or perhaps if it was smaller?

You can get armor to lengthen the dodge window in MH.
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>>384983081
>BotW was essentially a scam to get people to buy both the switch and the Wii U.
not him, but: what?
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>>384982743
What? Shitposting threads is the oldest pastime of /v/. Halo gets shit on. Witcher 3 gets shit on. Bloodborne gets shit on. BotW gets shit on. No game is immune. Take your lumps and move on. If anything vocal detractors may speak more to a game's successes than its failings.
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>>384982863
>BotW has over a 1.0 attach rate
No it doesn't you dumb fuck it's multiplatform.
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>>384981990
>Complaining about the music is subjective.
Are you telling me there is no objectively bad music? Is this what you actually believe?
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>>384982901
>bad game

I don't understand how you can say that BotW is a bad game. Like, I can understand someone that hates open worlds not liking it, but I can't understand the mindset of someone who would honestly think that one of the best open world games ever made is bad. It does everything that other, worse, open world games have promised and failed at, but even better. It's not perfect, but what great terrible thing could the game have done to make you think it is objectively bad?
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>>384962857
120 shrines cuck, stamina first, heart later
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>>384983181
>Wii U released
>A new Nintendo console! I have to buy it, because Zelda is bound to be on it!
>Years pass, BotW is now a switch game, with a downgraded version on Wii U
>A new Nintendo console! I have to buy it for the new Zelda!
I almost pity Zelda fans, but they're such obnoxious sore losers that they deserve everything they get.
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>>384983250
Its sandbox, not open world.
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>>384969051
Fuck off Harris.
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>>384983323
the switch version is upgraded and the wii u version is standard
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>>384983181

I'm going to take a guess and say he means that because Nintendo used BOTW as a carrot to lure in a crowd otherwise uninterested in Wii U to buy one to play BOTW when it eventually releases. Then the Switch shows up and the game is even better there.
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Zeldafags are Grimesfags and Blackedposters, and should go back to their containment boards
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>>384982278
Really? Design-wise TLoZ still feels alone in a sea of half measures and different directions taken by its sequels. BotW's core exploration motivators are infinitely more bland than the solutions TLoZ implemented. When you go to a specific place in TLoZ you get a specific reward where BotW spams souls and tree shit at you.

I still long for the degree of freedom mixed with curation TLoZ managed to pull off. BotW has the freedom but the curation end is shallow as fuck.

Yeah after 20 years of the series curating our experience harder and harder its a breath of fresh air a bit, but I really hope we some day see something like TLoZ. Or more ideally for me, something between TLoZ and LttP/OoT.

I don't want the series to become a collectathon dungeon crawler any more than it already has.
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>>384983250
Okay, let me correct myself. It's not truly "bad". It's just slightly above average, there are dozens of games out this year that are much better, so there's no reason to buy/play it.

But this essentially makes it bad. It's a waste of money and/or time because you could be playing many better things.

Also, mainline Zelda games are never really THAT bad, even though this is the worst one to date aside from Wind Waker.
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>>384983238
Nope. More BotW SWITCH VERSION games have been sold than switches by the April and May sales numbers.
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>>384983432
anyone buying a system for a game that isn't out yet deserves to get shafted, and that goes for any platform.
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>>384983449
>BotW is worse than twilight princess and Skyward Sword

And you say other people have bad taste.
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>>384983159

>So your problem with flurry rush is not that it breaks the game, but it's too easy to do?

One is a direct result of the other

Jesus, this really shouldn't be that hard.

>You would be happy with it if it had a dodge window the same as Monster Hunter?

It's not just the dodge window (which is far worse in Zelda even with the "armor reduced" shit), it's what flurry rush is. The shit literally freezes time and fucking snaps you in.

You can be out of the enemies attack range and still trigger a flurry rush, the shit is so fucking broken that it's honestly laughable.
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>>384983428
Yes, and Zelda fans are desperate enough that they'll buy a switch just for those upgrades.

You realize that X being a downgraded Y is equivalent to Y being an upgraded X, right? Especially when they were both released at the same time. Then again, I don't expect your average Zelda fan to have a good grasp on logic beyond the middle school level.
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>>384979448


Don't know why but I particularly like the girl that gave you fire proof potions.
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>>384983495

I agree. That's why I skipped Wii U. I wasn't going to take the chance that Nintendo was going to release a new 3D Mario on it. They took a whole gen to do it and so when Odyssey is out I'll certainly pick it up and a Switch to play it on.
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>>384983540
So you would have no problem with flurry rush if the window was just 10 times smaller.

Because dodge makes you invincible in monster hunter, as long as you always time it right, you will win. Even if you don't get a meme flurry of attacks for doing it, you'll still win.
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>>384983607
that's kinda funny as I bought a wii u about a year after 3D World came out and it's one of my favourite platformers (I just wish it was harder).
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>>384983428
The Switch version has so many h horrible similarities to the Wii U version and so little improvement that I truly wonder why you bothered posting this
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>>384983103

>I don't think the dungeons are like the shrines aside from aesthetically.

Mechanically I think they were.

A huge focus on physics with no real critical thought. Hence why I loved the star shrine, it actually got me to think. Physics puzzles are fine but when you have already done 50+ shrines already only to find that the Divine Beatss are essentially, more of the same, it got boring fast.

>but I can also understand someone rating it far lower if they had different expectations from the game or from the genre.

I just value side quests tremendously in any open world game. Subjective, sure, but it's what separates open world games like Gothic 2, Morrowind (truly remarkable open world games in my opinion) to braindead (albeit fun) games like MGSV, Just Cause 2 and more recently, Zelda BoTW.

It's funny though, Majoras Mask is almost widely agreed to be the best Zelda game (on /v/) almost purely due to its focus on side quests. Come to think of it, I genuinely can't name any truly great open world games with weak side quests.

But like we agreed on, to each their own.
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>>384983243
The complaints about the music in BotW are not based on taste but rather that the music is subtle and sparse and lacks the bombast of the previous Zelda games. The musical choices can be argued as a stylistic decision but there will still be some who don't like it based on personal preference. That's a subjective opinion.
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>>384983446
>>384982960

See >>384976472

We get it. You don't like how BotW did stuff. But a lot of other people do. You're really not going to change anyone's opinions with your long rants.
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>>384983586
I did't buy a switch for those upgrades, I find the switch unappealing and overall a step down from the wii u.
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>>384983678

>So you would have no problem with flurry rush if the window was just 10 times smaller.

I would have no problem with the flurry rush if it didn't exist.

I.E when I dodge, let the reward be the fact that I can briefly counter attack my enemy (something like Dark Souls or even Witcher 3). I don't need time to completely stop and for my character to jump across the screen all with the press of a button.

That's literally a QTE.
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>>384983718
What star shrine? The one where you just match the number of star constellations?

Wow, really activates the almonds.
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>>384983705

I played it at a friend's house. I admit it was a fun time doing everything, but after being spoiled with the Galaxy games I was holding out. 3D World was better than I was expecting and I hope Nintendo gives it a quick and dirty port to Switch for those who missed it. Joy con multiplayer would be pretty sweet with it.
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>>384983780
That's just like, your opinion man
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>>384983794
So you would have no problem with flurry rush if it was just a dodge, even though the opportunity afforded for one hit would already make it so you cannot lose.
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>>384983892


>So you would have no problem with flurry rush if it was just a dodge,

Yes

We finally got there in the end
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>>384983718
dude the constellation shrine was one of the easiest riddles in the game, you just had to read the sign and it practically spelled it out for you. Anyway, I don't think dungeons were that similar to shrines, since the player could move entire sections of the dungeon (or even the entire dungeon, in the case of Rudania) in order to navigate through; some one-note puzzles with a dungeon are like the shrine puzzles, but the main puzzle of the dungeon (i.e. finding your way through it) is nothing like any shrine.

I think it's pretty clear BotW didn't have a strong focus on quests, although I think it had some great ones in there just mixed in with generic fetchquests. To be honest, it's better than average when it comes to RPG quests, but I do wish they put in more effort for that aspect of the game. Also, I know I'll get shit on for this, but I struggle to get into Morrowind thanks to TES's god-awful combat system, maybe there's a mod for that though?
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I think dodge and bullettime should also you to get wrecked if you're clowning
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>>384983973
That makes the only difference time, not ability.
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>>384983883
kinda doubting it'll be ported as it's one of the worst-selling mainline marios ever. Shame as I also found it a lot of fun, it was like a really literal recreation of 2D mario platformers in 3D (as opposed to the more open style of SM64/Sunshine).
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>>384984046

>dude the constellation shrine was one of the easiest riddles in the game

It was a really easy shrine yes, still doesn't mean it wasn't the hardest one in the game.

The shrines were all a joke. I just preferred the change in pace from the "use magnesis on this" trash that plagues every other shrine.

>but the main puzzle of the dungeon (i.e. finding your way through it) is nothing like any shrine.

Even if that was true (I disagree, they felt very similar), there's 4 Divine Beasts with each being 15~ minutes long to complete.

>To be honest, it's better than average when it comes to RPG quests,

That's just not true and you know it. The side quests were the definition of average at best and "Rune Scape tier" at worst.
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>>384984046
Name one good sidequest.
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>>384969447

Botw confirmed for children and retards
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>>384982863

BotW is certainly popular, but you're the only moron here if you think sales are an indication of anything other than effective marketing.
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>>384983428

more like substandard lmoa
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>>384984384

>Nintendo
>effective marketing
Even a big game like BotW got little marketing compared to a Pokemon or Mario game. Let alone something like GTA or Final Fantasy. Hell, Horizon had more ads.
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>>384984174

If it finds its way to Switch it would most certainly bundle with Treasure Tracker and maybe some new content. Nintendo said they're looking to do for Wii U ports so who knows.
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>>384984526

Zelda was prominent in the general Switch ads, which is a much better game to display prominently than say, NSMBU when the Wii U barely came out.
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>>384980663
what does chill the fuck up even mean? He was just telling an asshole not to act like an asshole, i wish there were more people like him here
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>>384984662

What switch ads? I saw maybe a handful on TV and the internet. The thing seemed to get more coverage on news sites like forbes and CNN. And that was mostly about it being sold out and breaking sales records.

Both BotW and Switch seemed to sell through word of mouth more than anything.
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>>384984246
>still doesn't mean it wasn't the hardest one in the game.
what the fuck are you smoking, there's far more difficult shrines than that - heck, the blue flame shrine I mentioned earlier is more difficult compared to that, there's literally no thread in the constellation shrine nor any kind of time limit. Even if you only count similar riddle-type shrines like that, the 2 twin peak shrines are more difficult since they require memorisation and for you to have reached both shrines. I get that you're just exaggerating your point but you're being ridiculous.
>Even if that was true (I disagree, they felt very similar), there's 4 Divine Beasts with each being 15~ minutes long to complete.
like I said, quality over quantity for the beasts, at least imo.
>That's just not true and you know it. The side quests were the definition of average at best and "Rune Scape tier" at worst.
I don't really know what to say other than that I disagree.

>>384984268
I know it's a popular pick but I really liked Tarrey Town, I also really liked that stealth one in Kakariko (which I rarely see anyone mention), and the shrine quests with the 5 birds.
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>>384985079
Tarrey town is one big extended fetch quest. The stealth one is just sit there at night and follow the right person.
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>>384962673
>this gen
If you only play nintendo, yea, maybe
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>>384985167
you could boil down the quests from any game and at their core they'd all be fetch, follow, or kill quests. What sets a bland quest from a good quest isn't the objective but the execution.
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>>384963398
Kys.
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>>384962673
No not even close. Fucking Guilty Gear's 2nd to 3d transitions are more interesting that BotW
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>>384967059
This 100%
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>>384984268
>Name one good sidequest.
The whodunnit in Kakariko village. Checkmate.
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>>384986038
This game was disappointing, it really didn't give you enough to tie the game's story together. Then again so did Limbo, but at least Limbo had better puzzles. last 30 minutes was cool though
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yeah I agree but it is a visual masterpiece compared to a lot of games from this generation
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>>384986339
I don't know, the lightning was nice in dark areas but the brightly lit places looked bland. The sound design was fantastic on the other hand
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>>384986170
Why do people keep describing this one?

Let me describe how this quest went for me:
>Wait until night
>See girl walking away from town
>Follow her
>Turns out she didn't do it, go back
>See a guy heading up the cliff towards the shrine
>Follow him
>See cutscene
>Fight
>Quest over

People are acting like this was some epic detective mystery but it was literally follow two people
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>>384986515
>>384986339
>Bleak indie game with child character #521
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>>384986526
I think there were 4 people you could follow, what made it entertaining though was the dialogue and shifty behaviour of the characters.
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>>384962818
fpbp
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>>384982642
Watch Joseph Anderson's critique of BOTW, literally the only actual review of the game on the internet. He raises great points but spoils the entire game(he discussed all 120 shrines in their entirety).
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>>384984384
>sales not indicative of popularity

>number of people willing to buy game not indicative of number of people who may enjoy game

What
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>>384962673
How am i meant to play this game? It feels so off as a Zelda game
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>>384963654
Lol, someone couldn't find a Switch in stock
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>>384962818
>generic weebshit is "visually interesting"
whew lad
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>>384962673
Does anyone else think that botw looks washed out almost constantly?
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>>384962818
>>384962673
>>384967272
fuck yeah. Why are we so blessed with unique looking games?
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>>384989184
Go to full RGB mode

>>384987748
>only actual review
Are you kidding me? He has some downright incorrect information like saying the shrines are easier than ANY of the zelda puzzles before
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>>384989334
Did not mean to quote>>384967272 but >>384967059

Dark souls 3 looks good too imo
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>>384987748
>Joseph Anderson's critique of BOTW, literally the only actual review of the game on the internet.
He got BTFO on his own youtube page and neogaf ripped his critique to shreds. Fucking kill yourself
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>>384967312
What generation are we even in right now??
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>>384989512
>and neogaf ripped his critique to shreds
What, for being anti-feminist?
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>>384970130
t. never played the game
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>I played this game while on drugs and it was cool
Not an argument
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>>384962818
wew
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>>384962673
"visually interesting" is how people call outdated graphics now?
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>>384992590
Yeah. I mean just look at personafags
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>>384989512
Oh please, his combat critique is right, especially the part about flurry rush.
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>>384993459
>All other zeldas:
Z target to win
>Breath of the wild:
Flurry rush (with good enough weapons, repeatedly) to win
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>>384993813
At least you have to dodge correctly to trigger the rush. In other zeldas you don't even have to dodge, just mash
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>>384962673
>visually interesting

Jesus, these people are really desperate
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>>384977524
>PC fag playing a stolen copy
>Thinking his entitled opinion matters
LOL
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>>384993852
But still flurry rush is not a well thought out system. He might get a little too nitpicky but the critique of combat is, for the most part, right.
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>>384962673
I think it had a really charming aesthetic, and it pushed what anime-style cel shading can represent, I think.

But visually interesting game of the year? I don't think so. That said, I don't know of a game that's better looking, I've not invested in video games much lately.
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>>384979443
They look like dogshit though.
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>>384991336
If you've only played a game while sober your opinion means nothing.
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>>384994613
Yeah, I'm >>384994481 guy, I was going to say, "I can't wait for Xenoblade, I'm sure it'll look great."

Thought about it for a moment -- no, Xenoblades actually look kind of shitty. They only look good because they're massive and we're thinking, "holy shit, that waterfall over there that looks like background art, I can actually go to that. I'm on a fucking *titan* and I can look up into the sky and see his face."

But if you showed a picture of pretty much any AAA PS4 game to your little sister, she'll pick the PS4 game every time.

I say this as a Nintendo fan. Sorry, you don't play Nintendo for graphics, you play it for gameplay.
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is mudlord still cracking cemu releases in secret? anyone have a link to the latest I can use, or is this the kind of situation where I should just grab the latest public? I want to play this shit bad
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>>384995105
You could, you know, buy it?
Or are you a fucking liberal communist faggot?
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That would be Yakuza 0
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>>384995105
Then buy it, sonybro.

Or you can just pretend not to like it and participate in threads like these.
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>>384976490
> shit that never happened - the post
one guy at CDPR praised BOTW for being a fun game, that's all. witcher 3 is game of the decade while nintendo sticks to making shit only children and manchildren like
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Sorry but not.
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>>384995318
What's visually interesting about Yakuza 0? It's basically goes for realism which is the least interesting visual design to strive for.
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>>384976791
>>384976906
>>384977524
>>384995359
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-06-05-how-will-the-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-change-the-open-world-paradigm
>Damien Monnier, senior designer on The Witcher 3 at CD Projekt RED and now lead designer at fellow Polish studio Techland, emphasised the independence Nintendo fosters in the game's players. "Breath of the Wild has managed to bring classic open world mechanics together while not relying on them to guide the player through its world," said Monnier. "You go and explore it because you wonder what's out there, not because a loot icon tells you to."

>For Monnier, what is most striking about the game is the level of immersion the player has in its world. "My expectations, and I mean for me as a Zelda fan, have changed for sure - they've raised the bar when it comes to world crafting and this sense of total immersion I get when I play it,"
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>>384995586
They raised the bar because Zelda is an extremely well known name and they've released an open world game.

That doesn't mean it's better than Witcher 3. Witcher 3 doesn't raise the bar because people don't look at it as a reference, it's not as big a name as Zelda. But from now on, if you make an open world game you'll be compared to BotW, which raises the standard a bit, albeit not as much as if Witcher 3 was the standard.
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>>384995573
Majima's jacket lapel changes colours in different lighting and it's set in 1988
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>>384995359
All the witcher games are boring. They don't do anything particularly well.
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>>384995684
ah yeah, I'm sure that's what they meant. Especially within the context of the rest of that article and the specific things BotW did that other open world games failed to do.
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>>384995723
>t. biofag
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>>384995709
I mean that's cool and all, but when they go for such a realistic style it's definitely not going to impress me as much from an art design standpoint as something like Journey.
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>>384995684
>I don't know what "raised the bar means": the post
if something has raised the bar, that means its bettered its predecessors, which in this case includes Witcher 3.
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>>384995825
>witcher is better than bioware games that must mean it's good
Being better than dogshit is not impressive.
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>>384995871
Except it wasn't better than its predecessors, and we're talking about a Polish person who doesn't fully understand English here. He never meant to say that his game that is far more successful than BotW is worse than it.
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>>384978939
That's the thing, it's just crazy attention to detail which you don't experience unless you actually play the game.

Look at it vs the sloppy mess that is Horizon Zero Dawn
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>>384995323
>>384995298
>you wouldn't download a vidya
>you wouldn't download a vidyaemu
>anyone who does is sonybro or communist
ok, just figured there might be performance differences and I'm too poorfag to pay out for patreon release, you fags were discussing this shit and had links last time I looked into it

but the game itself? fuck no because, again I'm poorfag and own neither wiiu nor switch, but it sounds like it will, even under suboptimal conditions, run and look better emulated than on actual hardware
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>>384996172
imagine being so delusional that you have to tell yourself it's just a mistranslation.
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I love BoTW and Witcher 3.

What should I do?
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>>384996237
If you don't like it, don't buy it. That's how fucking capitalism works.

When you pirate, you're literally undermining capitalism. You're breaking the contract that people only get what they pay for.

You don't like having to play on Switch and Wii U? You only want good performing PC games? Then just fucking only play and buy good performing PC games. Oh, they don't exist? I wonder why. Because you fucking pirated them, you fucking communist.

Capitalism works on fucking paying for shit and not getting shit for free.

Next you're going to be fucking demanding college and healthcare be free, then we can have fucked EuroCare where you die waiting for cancer cuz muh muslims need healthcare too.
If you want good healthcare, you pay for it. If you want good college, you pay for it.

If you want good games, you pay for it.

Pirating is literally communism. If you can't afford a $60 game and a console you're probably literally getting cucked.

You're a poorfag? Then you don't deserve to play the fucking game. Get off your lazy ass and actually work for it.

People like you is what's wrong with America or what the fuck ever country you're from.
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>>384996497
Go back to funland because you clearly have no taste and will just accept anything put before you.
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>>384996602
holy fuck is this the infamous /v/eddit I hear so much complaint about actually rearing its ugly head or did I just get served some stale pasta
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>>384996629
Meant to say r.eddit
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>>384996629
But I don't like Skyrim or Fallout 4
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>>384996790
>i need to deflect from my communist tendencies
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>>384996240
imagine being so delusional you think a developer giving a good word to his companions in the industry is "admitting BOTW is better than W3"

nintendo's target demographic is literal children, CDPR creates much more mature games, that are also much better for other reason besides this one
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>>384996885
did you even read the article?
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>>384996879
get lost /pol/. this isn't the cold war so people aren't scared of communism especially since capitalism is how you ended up with Trump
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>>384996907
i see this article every time a BOTW thread comes up because you manchildren hold on to it for dear lives. not backing down on a single argument i've made in the course of this entire thread. or in any other BOTW thread
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BOTW? more like BTFO (zelda fags, from their shit game)

it's overrated shit
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>>384996879
the new world social market economy will render such blind two-sided terminology irrelevant; capitalism has gotten us this far (such as it may be) and clearly has great merit while a pure communist state is doomed to fail, but the benefits of a third way that marries the opportunity for both personal and shared wealth and innovation of a purely capitalistic socioeconomic outlook with social policies that free citizens from the tyranny of a long-evaporated career myth and the struggle to achieve basic means will arise soon as a result of our increased ability to automate and conquer scarcity, and when all is said and done people will look back on those zealots who decried all possibility outside of their chosen "capitalist vs communist" school of thought as heresy and sigh, and you will still be a massive faggot
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