Start playing Guilty Gear post mains and why you enjoy them.

>>384938189
Jam and Jack-O are my mains, would like to learn Bedman and Venom at some point.

No clue, just started but I'm thinking about trying vemon, guy or Slayer

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>>384938189
Been playing Sol since I first got the original GG demo disc in a Playstation Magazine back in 98. He and Ky were the only playable characters in the demo and he'd always lock in Ky so I just got used to playing Sol. A couple years later I ended up buying GGX as soon as I saw it because I remembered how much fun we had with the demo and it just kept going from there. I pocket Zato every now and then and played a lot of Order-Sol in AC+R because I liked the charge meter idea but my main's always been Sol.

IKs could be combo'd into in the demo and it made matches between my brother and I extremely short.

I miss playing fightan games with him.
Growing up and moving out sucks.

>>384938189

Should I play BlazBlue or Guilty Gear?

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i played for the first time on ps3 today, not sure but it was revelatons? it wasnt as bad i as expected, i thought it was much slower than BB but it wasnt tha slow, kinda funny

>>384877801#bottom
previous thread

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>>384938189
What about other arc games?
Like Ultimax?

Learning May but I can't handle holding dolphins with a pad, should I give up on her or is it not a big deal?

>>384938875
Flip a coin. Or pick the one with the cutest girls

>>384938779

>That artstyle

I would've bought it already if I didn't hate the way everyone looks now. GGXX was much, much better in that regard.

>>384938189
I prefer BlazBlue but I started playing Xrd with some friends recently.
I might main Baiken or Ram

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>>384938189
I like making the floor and the air lava at the same time

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Well first I went with Jam, but then I felt like I moved on to Sin, and now I'm looking at Kum. I'm not really sure who to go with now. Also how am I supposed to be doing his Four Tiger Sword reverse? Its weird to do a DP and then move the stick back

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>>384938189
having bad internet is suffering I want to play this game so much, but I can't play for shits I got a constant 4f delay and 1 bar with everybody, nobody wants to play the 1 bar guy fuck I just want to play against people

>>384940118
4f is acceptable for me most of the time, unless its Ky or Faust maybe. Once I see a guy with 6 or 7f delay I gotta get out of there though.

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I've always heard of Guilty Gear, but I wasn't really into anime fighters, so I put it off for the longest time. Eventually, Sign came out, and I bought it for PS4, but I don't have a stick for that console, so I just basically dicked around on it, mainly playing Slayer since his inputs weren't that bad for a controller. Fast forward a bit, Revelator comes out, I play a bit, stop for no real reason, and here we are with Revelator 2.

I'm slowly getting more and more into it, but it's sorta hard for me since I'm an SF player. I would be playing SFV, but fuck that noise mane. I decided after the last few thread to actually make an effort to get good, so I'm just trying out a bunch of different characters for now. Currently trying to get familiar with Jam and Johnny, is that a good idea? Also, I know about the Guilty Gear Crash Course videos, I'm gonna start going through them today.

The game is actually super fun, but I suck hard peepee at it.

>>384938779
I wonder why Arc System didn't release Guilty Gear X on Steam? Not many people would buy it, sure, but it already has PC port, so it's pretty much free money

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I really like GG and BB, but I have a hard time deciding between the two. I feel like I definitely prefer the lack of a tech roll (GG), but I might prefer a few more characters as a whole from BB. I also prefer the shorter combos from GG.

I honestly can't decide though. Playing both seems a bit confusing.

Also, side note, can you set a macro button that works as an air dash in either game? I don't remember.

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I've been trying to learn May. Think it'll take a while before I get used to her though.
At least her gimmicks are fun.

>>384940312
You actually did the smart thing by switching games instead of bitching, so congrats.
Everyone in GG is so unique compared to the rest of the cast, that you can start with any one. A key thing to also try finding is the input shortcuts for things like instant air dashes (ie 9, 6 instead of 8, 6, 6) and character specific ones.

>>384940312
If you're more interested in Jam, here's a guide https://docs.google.com/document/d/17F30d6lW7IXFTgaFTR9Rb9DDC8fYCC9pzeNdrn3H3KY/mobilebasic

And here's a playlist of Rev 2 Jam players. (In particular, watch Lox and Teresa). https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSq9hRF0zPpVb5ej1whGnGTamvMyQb1IO

>>384938189
GG: Baiken. The tits. ABA is what I'll switch to if she's added. I do a lot of Ky on the side.
BB: Tager. Everyone from sector seven is good, though.

>>384938189
Just a warning, don't make the same thread over and over. It makes them start disappearing. Make better OPs.

>>384940801
there a guide like that for chipp?

>>384939228
it's harder but people manage to play zato on pad so you will probably be fine. if it really gives you too much trouble consider switching a button or two to the shoulder buttons.

>>384940661
No you can't because there is no button input for dashes like in the VS or FB games.

>>384940986
>picture of boogie eating mayo with PAY in all caps
>hits the bump limit every single time if mods don't delete it

Start telling the truth

>>384938189
Main Johnny and sub Pot. Played Pot since Reload, but Johnny is a lot more fun to play and really strong right now. Pot still has a solid kit but I would like to see some changes done to him.

>>384941101
Maybe. I found the Jam one on her discord, so it's possible they have something similar.

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>>384941224
Shit, I didn't think so. I'm still not good and I don't use a stick, nor do I want to, and it's a bit difficult doing precise airdashes otherwise.

I do own a Hori Fightpad that I like though.

>>384939953
It's literally 6234. Just keep practicing it, it's weird but not that weird.

Finally took the plunge and bought the game. I finished all of I-no and Baiken's advanced combos, but haven't really tried playing online yet. I-no is probably who I will main, her combos are fun and she's the right mix of technical but not Chipp/Zato/Bedman/Venom levels of insanity to perform with.

Unfortunately, my internet is not the greatest, so I'm not sure if I'll even bother trying to play this online. There's a group of people who play fightan so I'll get my matches from them.

Really fun game overall though, it's a shame it's so underappreciated. I forgot this rewarding feeling for pulling off difficult combos and such.

>>384938189
I did start playing GG as my first fighting game. I picked up Ky for my main. How do I get as him? Better yet, how do I get good as fighting game?

Any Blazblue friends know who I might enjoy in BB if my favorites in GG are Sol and Baiken?

>>384941608
If it's Baiken's defensive style you like, Hakumen might be your guy.

>>384941390
Like >>384940764 said, just do up-towards to towards. It's easy once you get the timing.
Or play I-no.

>>384940764
Yeah, I mean I could have put up with SFV, but the netcode just pissed me the fuck off, so I just decided to say "fuck Capcom", and I'm sorta boycotting them now. Thanks for the tip on the airdashes BTW, I've been having trouble pulling those off.
>>384940801
My negro. Thanks a bunch man.

>>384941608
Tsubaki and Hakumen

Tsubaki emulates Sol's style but you can play her slower like Baiken with mostly safe stuff but still strong offensive options. Same with Hakumen but more of a defensive, slower but higher damageish

>>384941554
It will be a challenge at first, no matter what. Work on the tutorials, additional missions, and Ky's combos. When you understand the basics, watch some videos of pros who play Ky and see what they do, then try to mimic their actions in your own matches.

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I've been playing for about a month now, solely with Dizzy, and its been rather fun.
However, I want try out Chipp, and he's completelly diferent from her. Any tips?

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>>384942483
Watch how Bears plays Chipp. Also, ingest enough caffeine or amphetamines so you can hit that many buttons that quickly for that long

>>384941101
>>384942483
http://www.dustloop.com/wiki/index.php?title=GGXRD-R2/Chipp_Zanuff/Strategy

It's not nearly as in depth as the Jam guide I posted earlier, but it's better than nothing.

>>384939953
So I know nothing of GG...

but that is so unexpected yet amazingly cool! Fuck I might empty the wallet for the dlc. But console or PC?

Who should I play in GG if I like Makoto and Noel in BB?

>>384942483
He's not that different honestly since they both have really low defense and need to do a hit and run playstyle. Mobility is your friend with both characters. Depending how new you are to fighting games I would just learn a combo into KD and play games mostly focusing on his unique aspect of attacking with teleports and etc.

If you have a bit more experience learn the j2K FDC j.H mixups asap and run that grime.

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When I used to play xrd, Elphelt's playstyle just appealed to me with a nice hybrid of zoning and in your face shit. Plus waifus and guns and roses are cool.

Would like to learn Zato though just don't know exactly how I would approach learning him.

Started a few days ago. Maining Jack-O' for that sweet pressure and easy combos but also putting time into Dizzy for keep-away practice.

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>>384938189
i play dandy man of counter hit pilebunker in GG
and i play top tier slayer of unblockable super in BB

thanks for the tip on dash canceling from the last thread now i just need to practice with other things besides mappa

>>384942839
Euro or NA? If Euro, PC is more active. If NA, both are about the same. It's personal preference.

>>384942839
pc has 3 less frames of input lag than console if you use the right settings, so online pc is much better quality.

>>384942935
Definitely Jam. She's closer to Noel though as she has her big reward for taking risks gameplan Noel is famous for while having some similar ideas that was put into Makoto like Parry. Other options I'd say are like Leo, Haehyun.

>>384943094
He's not really that hard. Like Elphelt he's got a good mix of zoning and rushdown, just with more emphasis on aerial attacks. Just be aware that your attacks also make Eddy do things while he's out so avoid pressing the wrong buttons in your combo and wasting his time out.

>>384938875
Both

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>>384938189
Venom as a main all the way. Just love his entire playstyle and how much different shit you can do, although it can get a bit draining at times because you have to be so on point.
Also playing Sin as a sub a bit for the freestylin big boy combos.

>>384938189
I'd rather play UNIBoob, didn't a new version come out?

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>>384938189
johnny is the pure essence of cool

where the ps4 /v/ lobbies at

>>384943659
I imagine it's hard learning to consciously control eddie and zato as two different entities, sort of like separating your left hand and right hand rhythms in piano.

Is there any sort of routine training I should follow?

>>384938189
Former Faust main now sub after picking up Ky who just feels like old school anime Ryu to me and i love him. Also have a decent Kum/Potemkin. A sloppy day 1 tech Sol but Sol is fun regardless for frametraps but i need to train him a bit.

Id say Ky is my best then after then Faust/Kum then Potemkin then far in the back Sol. I tried learning Axl too but playing Axl on the side is hard feels like he has alot of MU specific stuff that requires you to main him to win consistently.

Why not include KOF too? KOF14 is fucking great second favorite fighter this gen after GG and second favorite KOF after 2k2UM. Id say Rev2 is my favorite GG now after spending so much more time with it then AC+R. I might've liked AC+R more but i got into it fucking super late i miss Anji command throw/RC butterfly setups though.

>>384938189
is online populated on ps4?

Slayer because I like his walking animations.

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Do you guys think DBZ is going to hurt GG?
Do you think Mainstream success could hurt Arksys?
Ive gotten a bit cynical in my thoughts about hobbies, and I've started to strongly feel that when niche things become big they become shit and I worry for GG/ArkSys

>>384943943
Yes, on the JP PSN store.

I've only casually played Accent Core and I feel like picking up someone who isnt Faust/Millia/Jam
How hard is it to learn Leo, Axl, or Kum? I'd ask about Answer too but I dont know anything about him yet and I dont have the money for Rev2

>>384938189
Sin. His happy-go-lucky attitude and relationship with most of the cast is heartwarming to me. Also 236H makes me feel like I'm good at fighting games

>>384944186
Oh shit, is the text in jap?

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>>384938189
slayer because he's dandy and i like to counter hit
chipp because he's a ninja that's all over the place
johnny because he's johnny

>You live in a glorious age where Arcsys is about to probably have the most popular fighter and GG has 300-400 USA majors and almost 1k at Evo
>You live in a glorious age where KOF is gaining popular
>You live to see Geese Howard in Tekken.
>You live to see a good DBZ fighting game by the GG team.

Man it all happened so sudden too. At first all i had was GG and KOF14 was amazing and its incredible how they fixed the netplay up so fast. I thought i was gonna be playing GG another gen and then see a KOF with playable online and Geese. And now all this.

Im considering the BB crossover if i can play Tager/Kanji together or Tager/Merkava but i wanna see the mechanics of the game outside of the obvious SFxT/TTT esque switch out.

>>384944176
My thoughts on fandoms are that their quaility is a bell-curve based on the number of people in them. It will continue to get better until reaching a peak and then crash. The company itself won't change, but you'll get a lot more people bitching and moaning.

>>384944283
Yes, but there are already guides floating around (both for the in-game menus and getting a JP account/psn card).

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USA PC lobby id: 3d7n

get in here

Faust because i only care about having fun.

>>384944176
Nah.
GG players will most likely play both same with BB players etc. DBFZ will be more popular because its partially Marvel and some GG to it. But mechanically and flow wise its neutral looks far different then GG. It doesn't have the pace or depth a single 1v1 in GG/BB has atleast from what its shown.

The only thing DBZ is hurting in comparable gameplay is MVCI. You might have some idiots who compare it in bad ways to GG/BB but its just far too different.

been having trouble finding a main. mostly use millia though. ky, sol, and kum i do alright with too. i just need to sit down and focus on mastering one of them.

>>384944176
As long as they don't go the way of Platinum it will be fine

>>384944176
I'd guess that for every person that quits GG to move on to DBFZ there will be at least one person who gets into fighting games because of DBFZ and moves on to guilty gear.

>>384938189
I main Sin and Faust. Both of them have good neutral game and I like the concept of managing another meter that gives you an advantage. I'm trying to learn more straightforward characters like Ky and Sol though, since I feel like my fundamentals are kinda ass and only relying on the character's gimmicks to get me wins.

>>384938189
I play AC+R. Johnny's my go-to there
More of a BlazBlue guy but I find GG fun. I'm an Amane/Mu player in CPEX

>>384944608
Faust is fun as fuck. Used to main him now i main Ky. Im still bad at Jump installing but i get it some of the time now in matches still trying out different inputs for it since its more awkward on pad.

Faust is fun as fuck but some matchups are a struggle. Elphelt/Zato/Millia characters if they get on you punish you if you can't dead angle out because of Fausts bad defensive tools when blocking. But hes satisfying as fuck. Faust has a mild mixup game at best without good item gets so he has to play neutral consistently and react. Hes not hard but anyone who claims Faust is easy to learn among Sol/Ky/Raven etc is a idiot. He has awkward as fuck movement and if you slip up once on someone good you can just die trying to escape.

>>384944956
Faust requires fundamentals friend. If you don't feel that way you've been playing people with pretty poor approach games. Faust has no dp and his close normals aren't very good. He requires good defense and good neutral.

Sin on the other hand is a fucking monster. Its like he has no real weakness.
>Has a super reversal and decent dp that can be special cancelled into a confirm
>Has a normal hurtbox
>Has insanely good confirmable pokes
>Has super good mixups.

His only "weakness" is being low on food but there are guaranteed strings to get it with a RC and eat YRC is hard to punish if you don't know when hes gonna do it.

Sin also is annoying as fuck because hes not gimmicky or doesn't have to be gimmicky. People like Machaboo using him are fucking crazy because hes throwing good neutral/fundamentals ontop of unga.

>>384944176
>Do you guys think DBZ is going to hurt GG?
Nah I think at worst people will double dip on the entries at tournaments and GG pools will end up with a lot of bye's which isn't a huge deal. I think if it's going to "hurt" a game in America(which is an important distinction here) it will be Blazblue because in the american scene is already small and TO's generally only run 2 anime games.

>Do you think Mainstream success could hurt Arksys?
Do you mean Aksys or Arcsystem Works? I would say it wouldn't hurt either as ASW has worked on licensed games before now. P4U was a really huge title when it released and I honestly don't see DBFZ being much bigger. It's still a fighting game and once the new game allure wears off and people figure stuff out it will be harder for the average person to compete and numbers die down.

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>>384944956
My niBBa. I main Faust and am also interested in Sin.

Blazblue I main Bang and Tager.

My go to in fighting games are usually big dudes/comic relief characters. I also avoid characters that aren't honest because I feel waaay too cheesy. Not to say I go out of my way to play bad characters, but I tend to, conveniently, never like top tiers.

>>384938189
Who has the strongest defensive options?

>>384945545
Dizzy

>>384945545
Probably Sol with VV, 6K, 2D, corner riot stomp and probably more that I can't remember right now.

>>384940764
Nah the true OS is switching AND taking every opportunity you can to shit on SFV. I mean Xrd is the better game by far but capcom is doing the genre and the community a disservice with that watered down oversimplified shit.

I really feel bad for the loyalists that keep watching and playing dash jump CC stand roundhouse into V-trigger all day.

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>>384944567
nobody has joined yet. is it true /v/ only shitposts about fighting games and can't actually play them?

do i need to buy Rev 2 DLC to play with everyone else online?

fuck this dlc bullshit, everyfucking game does it now, even japs

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>>384938189
Slayer, I like his playstyle of throwing around invis frames everywhere and getting dat big counterhit.

>>384944567
I would join but I'm on PS4

>>384945748
I'm PS4 or I'd join. If my brother is done playing, I can set up a lobby on there.

>tfw later parts of college are destroying chances to play FGs
I miss it lads
I want to play UNIST some more but I don't even have a place to play, nor do I have non-wifi internet due to living in a quite small college town.
I also don't even have a PS4 and have only gotten to play it a bit due to a friend back home.

>>384945837
>fuck this dlc bullshit, everyfucking game does it now,
Would you rather pay $40 for a brand new copy? DLC upgrade is a fucking blessing.anon.

I want someone who plays close with a lot of + on block. Who should I play?

>>384946053
but do i need to buy it to play online? pls respond

i only have the regular game

>>384945748
upgrade my rev to rev2 for 20 bucks on pc and i'll join. i only got rev2 on ps4.

>>384946053
Seriously, I can understand it for other genres, but with how fighting devs have traditionally worked, DLC is much better.

I bought GG but havent had a chance to play it much. Too addicted to rb6 siege. I deff want go get into it more though, im likin jam cus shes kinda like karin from sfv.

>>384945285
>Has super good mixups

nigga what

sin is literally neutral into pressure into neutral: the character

he has next to no setplay outside of some really basic high-lows and meaties

besides that his super's invincibility comes out on frame 4 so if you meaty it correctly he eats shit, his dp is also insanely vertical and if you space yourself properly it'll whiff and he will also eat shit

i'll give you the other 2 though

>>384946141
Yes, the vast majority of online players are on Rev2 and you can't play against them without it.

>>384946243
well rip then

Just ordered it from Newegg. Stick should be here tomorrow. I'm fuggin psyched

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>Tried to play some GG
>5 gb update takes 3 hours
Fuck you PSN too

What is Jack-O's meaty? Is it the down hard slash?

>play GG for a while
>get bored, learn a new character, drop the game after a week
>pick up BB
>learn a character, practice old ones, relearn everything all over again
>drop after a week because everybody online is better and plays Nine/Izanami/Susanooh
>stick to offline training or play with a friend
>get bored, go back to GG where I can handle online pretty decently

is this living the dream?

>>384945285
Sin is a monster and but he isn't lacking in weaknesses as you think. His super isn't a true reversal since all meaty moves can stuff it and his mixups are piss poor unless you dedicate meter to it. Hell, his DP can be baited easily since it has shit reach horizontally. Like Faust, he's a neutral oriented character which is why I like both of them.

And I only feel like wanting to pick up a character like Ky since I kinda want to try an honest character and not rely on the character's gimmicks to win.

>>384946464
2k or close slash

This game looks cool, but I've only dabbled in SF4 over at a friend's house many years ago. I don't want to do some autismo youtube training regimen when there's a whole universe of good games that don't require major investment to get to where you're actually "playing" the game. Should I get it anyways?

>>384946469
Nine's getting nerfed hard in the new patch.

>>384946580
>He thinks ky is honest

I don't think any character in gg is really honest. As soon as you play against a sort of competent player you start needing some serious matchup knowledge or it'll feel like complete bullshit. That's also a big part of what makes the game so fun though.

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H-he'll come back r-right guys? ;-;

>>384946697
You're in a thread of people who like the games and want to keep playing to get better.
What do you think they'll tell you?

>>384946827
Eventually for sure. Next up is most likely robo ky though and possibly ariels for a new character.

>>384946058
like everyone in GG does this honestly to an extent I would look at Jam Johnny Zato. when it's your turn you just kinda go in this game

>>384938189
Well in the other thread I chose Leo and Jack-O.
In BB,CS was the last one I played. I used Noel but I wanted to use Rachel, but then I heard she was really bad. So I used Tao and occasionally Tsubaki. I never got the hang of Tsubaki. When I do get CF I want to try Kokonoe.

>>384946747
"Honest" is a meme anyway outside of cookie cutters like shotos. Literally every character in every fighting game has some sort of gimmick. Honest and dishonest just boil down to "I like/dislike playing against this".

>>384946580
Grapplers are honest as they come. They have the gameplan of walking up to you, without gimmicks, and grabbing you. Both of you know that from the start of the match. They can't rely on crazy tricks to get up close, they just have to move in and you have to prevent them doing so. Doesn't get more honest than that.

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You just used Faust's 236P, what item did you get?

>>384947038
I tend to think more of it as how hard a character has to work. Some characters do seem like complete bullshit until you see the execution needed to make them work. Meanwhile 3S Chun is just holding downback looking for that super confirmation.

>>384946867
If I like the game, I won't want to break immersion and consult resources outside the game.
If I don't like the game, I wouldn't want to keep playing anyways.

>>384947463
A JELLY DONUT?

>>384946827
Daisuke wants to bring everyone back eventually
It might be awhile considering that Robo Ky and Zappa already have character models but it will happen.

>>384947463
Meteor

>>384947546
If that's the case then GG is great. The in-game tutorial will do a lot for teaching you how to play and not just what combos to do.

>>384947546
If you genuinely don't want to look at anything outside of the game then you can probably leave right now, because this game will not be for you.

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>>384944430
Eh, sometimes a massive fanbase does actually hurt the quality of the actual thing people are a fan of. Pandering to LCDs and such for $$.
Gaming in general is a prime example.

>>384944801
I still like Platinum a lot, but there was a period in time where they were shitting out low quality work on a lot of licensed titles like TMNT, Transformers, and Korra. They got too big too fast and it went to their head. They chased the quick buck and it showed. They, like previously stated, were better when they were niche.
Except for NieR

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Why does everyone hate my main /v/? Is it because she was once op as fuck? I wouldn't say she's the most fun to fight against, but in my opinion she's miles better than someone like Raven.

>>384947757
its the fanbase

>>384947757
Bullshit buttons and shotgun can be pretty enraging to play against.

>>384947038
Not necessarily. There's a clear difference between defending yourself against Ky and defending yourself against Zato. With Ky he can shut down a lot of your options but never all your options at the same time. With someone like Zato once you are knocked down you don't get to play anymore. His pressure is so suffocating that you mostly have to wait for the opponent to mess up versus any real options you have yourself. Same deal for milia. When she knocks you down do you block left or right? The answer is yes because at any point she can force you to block left, right, high, low, or just straight-up grab you. And a lot of it loops right back into the initial knock down at put you in that situation in the first place. Now I know it's more to it than that and Guilty Gear isn't the only place where this happens. Ibuki in Street Fighter 4 with notorious for this. If you got knocked down it was a coin flip to get out. Carl in BlazBlue can be this too.

>>384938189
I played xx in college for a few years. Tried to git gud with chip, failed, gave up.

>>384944193
Please respond

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>>384947665
>>384947668
Getting some mixed messages

>>384947678
nier is trash

>>384944193
Leo is extremely straight forward. Axl requires some good MU knowledge the higher you get. Not so sure about Kum. Current opinions on answer range from underdeveloped to straight up shit tier.

>>384947757
She's a Blazeblue character in a Guilty Gear game.

>>384944193
Axl and Leo are pretty easy, Kum is medium imo.

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>>384948206
Thats your opinion and you're entitled to it.
That said, your opinion is very wrong.

>>384948109
The game has really extensive ingame resources but they will only get you so far. It won't teach you the most legit combos for example.

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>>384938189
I like Zappa whens Zappa

>>384948224
As someone who hasn't played BB, what does this mean? Or are you just talking about the character design?

>>384944956
Sounds like a case of imposter syndrome to me.

>>384947757
She is like Noel where the risk reward is lopsided as hell in her favor, crazy screen control with the old grenade, old shotgun being very hard to defend against etc. etc.

I mean at the end of the day it was just because she was the new top tier on the block and people have had decades to complain about Zato/Millia/Chipp, Ramlethal's legs were already broken and people were so retarded they thought Sin wasn't good because he had "no mixup"

>>384948409
But Noel is terrible. At least in CF

>>384948318
Alright I'll try. PS4 or PC?

>>384948409
Yeah, that makes sense, thanks. I just started playing GG when Rev 2 was about to come out, so I was a bit confused.

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>>384946827
Not before Bridget

>>384948543
Noel has much worse matchup than Elphelt

>>384938189
Baiken because I really like counter moves even if I'm shit at using them. Will learn Robo-Ky whenever he gets added.

>>384938189
Dizzy since XX, though I just like the way she plays. Don't get the waifu appeal at all.

Nowadays jump between Jack-O / Answer (I mained Bang in BB) / Elphelt.
But always end up coming back to Dizzy.

>>384948380
Next update along with Robo-Ky
Say goodbye to his ghosts though.

USA PC lobby still up id: 3d7n

mostly new players in here besides me

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May. When I first started out I tried different characters (Jam, Baiken, Testament) but I immediately clicked with her. Also I love the combination of a cute girl with a brutal touch.

>>384939228
If you just press the button the dolphin will stay there, too. You only have to press it again to release it (and you can still hold it if you need to press that button without releasing it).

>>384944176
>Do you guys think DBZ is going to hurt GG?
Not really, I don't think DBZ will be deep enough to please the core GG audience.

>Do you think Mainstream success could hurt Arcsys?
It could. But since GG seems to be a really personal thing for Daisuke I would worry too much. At most they would start releasing mainstream stuff alongside their classic franchises.

>>384944416
>You live to see a good DBZ fighting game by the GG team.
The engine is the same but the team isn't. At the very least Daisuke isn't involved (and neither is Mori).

>>384948380
He either comes with Robo-Ky (hopefully by the end of the year) or several months later.

>>384948109
Ignore the second anon. I too refuse to read outside resources, the closest thing I do is watching matches. Not because of immersion or anything like that, but because I want my playstyle to be completely mine. You don't need outside resources at all, but you do need investment and effort.

So I heard rumors that someone had datamined a spray for Ariels. Is this true and does anyone have the source?

NA PS4 lobby is up. ID is fpgn. Get in here.

I'm playing P4AU____________________________________

>>384949202
Ok, so PS4 or PC? I'd rather not have to get both.

>>384949439
Hard to tell for me. All I can say is that EU PC is relatively well populated, including beginner lobbies.

>>384940801

Thank you my dude, I've been looking for this Jam guide for a while

>>384949439
The consensus is PS4 for NA and PC for EU.

>>384938189
I play I-no because of shit like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH0E4VRXU44

Also she's super grimy as fuck with stuff like cross up fdc j.s or hoverdash cross up fortissimo. Nobody can block this character and I love it.

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I like Jam just cause her playstyle is relatively simple while not being entirely one direction like Raven. Whenever I finally get around to buying REV2 I will definitely play Answer. Also I went back and played some +R and now eagerly await ABA and Zappa.

>>384949756
No prob man, I try to provide resources for people, even if I'm a terrible player.

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>>384950029
>ABA and Zappa
my nigga

Jam.
Thinking about switching to Baiken, because it feels like Jam gets shut down too hard by everything, fighting anyone UNGA with Jam is a pure nightmare too.

Whoop game crashed, ggs May/Baiken

>>384950286
Shortly after, mine did too. What the fug.

>>384950248
>wants to go from a character with great unga buttons and a dp to a character with a bad gimmicky reversal dp and shit (grounded) buttons

Jam's way better than Baiken right now.

Is there a shoto in this game?

>>384949202
>but the team isn't.
It is. The Director is Junya Motomura. The same guy who did https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhGjCzxJV3E&t=2006s

>>384950286
>>384950410
ggs thanks for joining

>>384950494
Ky is the closest probably.

>>384950587
I thought he felt similar since he basically has a shoryu and hadokens, but it also feels off

>>384950494
Ky and Sol are sort of like Ryu and Ken, from what I understand.

>>384938189
finally fell for the guilty gear meme just got rev 2. this is my first arc sys game. which character is good for a beginner to learn mechanics, etc? have prior fighting game experience just not with arc sys games.

>>384949036
I'll join once I get home

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>>384950840

>>384950840
Probably any character that looks cool to you unless they have some really complex gimmick you have to learn that would overshadow the fundamentals i.e. zato.

>>384950840
Pick the character you like after doing the tutorial, then do their challenges, the do the advanced tutorials. Start grinding matches and research some stuff.

>>384951010
>I-no
>not in intense

fuck whoever made this list

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reminder Ky became a gear so he can be with his waifu as long as possible

Fuck PS4 and fuck paying to play online. Is the PC version still populated?

>>384951091
I would recommend against spending too much time on the advanced combo trials when you are just starting out. Best way to learn is to start off with some really basic gameplan and to just grow from there.
If you just start out grinding combos before even hopping into real games you won't be able to get to use them anyways.

>>384951010
put jam in difficult, move may to regular, move sin to basic. maybe move i-no and axl up one level and slayer down one level. otherwise good list

>>384950840
Sol, Ky, and Sin. Really stable characters that are easy to begin with. Sin has a sub system where he has a second meter but it's nothing hard to understand necessarily.

>>384951306
Yeah, you may want to use discord though.

>>384951206
I-no inputs are pretty loose

>>384950494
Ky is closest you'll get

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If I weren't a poorfag, I'd main the fuck outta Johnny bravo over here. Sexiest theme music I'll ever hear in a fighter game and if I were a chick, he'd be my husbando

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>>384949362
Can't join, don't meet connection standard. 2 bars, fluctuates though. Maybe lower it?

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>>384951470
That's not the only thing loose about I-no

>>384949362
Anyone?

>>384951673
Fuck it, I made a new one. ID is jiib

>>384938189
Stopped a while back because not much time to play and online play is ass for me, due to delay I drop inputs and whatnot.

Faust, because he's eccentric as hell and I love it.

>>384951280
Reminder Ky is a pedophile

>>384951951
fuckin lucky

>>384939007
They're okay imo.

>>384951280
I miss short hair Ky.
Long hair Ky's not bad though.

>>384951470
Barely any character's have tight links until you get into their optimal shit. All her optimal combos are tight as fuck, her bread n butter requires SJIAD from hit universally and don't even get me started on fdc or the new hoverdash tech. Literally can't believe people actually she isn't one of the hardest characters to learn and put in the same learning curve as fucking bedman, slayer and pot.

>>384940118
i know the pain

Jack-O. The houses and pet maintenance is just fun.

She is also toppest tier waifu bait

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Should I play chip jam bedlam or dizzy

>>384947373
Except for when you get knocked down and then high/low/throwed for 20% of your health.

>>384951951
Is Ky our guy?
>>384952437
Who do you like playing more as? Chip is probably the best but, you'll have to invest in him the most.

>>384952437
Chipp is break my hands senpai for that top tier tier

Jam is unga mash tier

Bedman is nobody knows how to deal with your bullshit tier

Dizzy is force opponent to block honestly tier

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>>384952437
Leo

Why is it so hard for me to dash as I want with a ps3 controller?

>just realized her name is a pun on Cranberry Jam

>>384951886
Get in niggers

>>384952175
She's somewhere around the middle.

Execution wise she still has FDC stuff that is somewhat difficult, but it's nowhere as bad as it used to be like back when FRCs were required.

Her gameplan is still braindead like it's always been. Get a knockdown then dash at the other guy until he's dead.

>>384953928
Rev 2? I'm fucking trash but I'll play

>>384952716
But it's honest. You both know the gameplan, no crazy gimmicks or tricks. If you got hit, it's because you let them. At anything other than a beginner level it's harder to move in slow and land a grab for 30% than it is to land a quick launcher and do a 30% combo. Grapplers feel cheap initially because the damage itself is easier, but everything outside that makes them difficult to excell with.

>>384953879
That's actually wrong. It's a pun for "Cloudberry Jam." Which is a Swedish pop/Jazz group that was popular in Japan at the time she was made. Guilty Gear is loaded with musical puns and references.

>>384938189
When I tried it out on PS2 for a bit a few days ago, I only played as KY Kiske, so I guess he's my main.

>>384954208
That's much cooler

>>384953989
Yeh ps4

>>384950452
>>384950248

New to guilty gear, what is unga? Am I right to assume its niggerish in origin?

>>384954318
Unga is mashing

>>384938189
Faust because I'm bad at fighting games and he has the goofiest shit. I pick May sometimes.

>>384954318
Big normals/brainless gameplay etc.

>>384954318
It's not necessarily a GG term. It's when you get in someones face and press buttons like a neanderthal.

>>384954318
https://youtu.be/8aXOUvlyYDI?t=516

>>384954257
Yes it is.

>>384954470
it originated in GG because of leo

Sorry that was so one sided man.

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Am I supposed to pretty much always be on the defensive as Baiken? It feels hard to play the neutral game with her

>>384954883
Ky is my sub, wasn't trying to bully. I'll mess with someone else if you like?
Never used Sol before. Maybe.

Also, GET IN HERE FAGGOTS.

>>384954768
Didn't know that, thanks.

>>384951010
I'd say move Sol to difficult. He's difficult to use considering he relies on conditioning your opponent.

>>384955104
Nah man, you're good. I'm rusty as fuck and I just picked up Jam yesterday. I need to learn the Ky matchup; he shits all over her in terms of range.

-Chipp
He's fast and fun, I have a good time playing him.

-Dizzy
Flashy cool looking attacks, and those legs.

This is my first time playing a guilty gear game as well, and I love it, the game looks beautiful. Don't care about the story though, I always skip dialogue. I hopped on board simply because the game looked nice and looked fun, and it is.

PC LOBBIES WHERE

That was pretty nice

I'm interested in learning May but I'm having trouble with her charge buffering during combos. Is it something I'll just get used to over time, or should I be practicing certain things in training? I'll get to the point where I'm mostly good for one combo, but then it feels like I need to completely relearn it for a different one.

>>384951010
I am confused on what the list means. Is it execution difficulty?

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Is there any good guides for Leo? Want to try out other characters since I've only really tried Ky so far even though I think I enjoy him I want try something more aggressive.

Also low key loving how much attention GG has been getting lately.

>>384956128
You'll get used to it. It's not as bad as you think it is.

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Are mayflash sticks decent or terrible?

>>384955104
I would join, but I'm eurotrash

>>384955638
but actually tho

>>384955104
PC or PS4? whats the ID?

>>384956264
They're great. I have a modded mayflash (used it as a base, added sanwa parts and changed the art) and I use it more than my expensive TE2. It's reliably, sturdy, and less bulky than some of the higher-end sticks so I can play long sessions without getting dead leg.

>>384956196
Ease in which a character executes their win condition

>>384943723
Only right answer.

Here's an archive of matches for anyone who wants to see some decent level game play of X character of interest. Also good for checking out specific matchups.

https://keeponrock.in/

Choose the two boxes up top for specific characters.

the reversal window is too short desu

can't wait until I can use Frieza hold button to wakeup super attack

>>384956264
The only sticks worth fucking with right now are by Quanba, Hori, and Razer.

>>384956196
I assume it's "how hard it's to be ok with this character".
Every character is hard to play on a high level.

>>384956343
PS4 jiib

Come on.

>>384956562
Double tapping your button helps

>>384955000
I've seen her played offensively pretty well, using her command dash and iad stuff. Watch vids of pros and see how she can be played

>>384955639
If you're that other Jack-O, I'm trying to give you a little bit of help by showing what limited knowledge I have of her is.

>>384956639
im coming in

>>384954257
Sol also has numerous references to Queen
>Sol Badguy - Mr. Bad Guy (Freddie Mercury's nickname)
>Rock You on headband
>Real name is Frederick
Etc.

>>384955000
Throw tatami out > do whatever the fuck you want

>>384956849
I am, just started yesterday

>>384956657
Not him, but what's the deal with the reversal challenge in mission mode?
I'm able to do reversals in actual matches just fine, even with 2-5 frames of lag, but in that mission I'm only succesful like 10% of the time.

>>384948601
PC

>>384948380
I liked messing around with Zappa in AC's practice mode. His inputs are fairly simple, has a good variety of moves and I like his aesthetics. Might pick up GG if he makes it back in.

>>384956954
I wonder if his last name is Goodman

>>384938189
I've recently bought Rev 2 on Steam and I feel quite overwhelmed, I must say. My fighting game experience is basically non-existant and I have one crucial question: How do I motivate myself to actually play and get better? There is absolutely nobody here who plays fighting games, let alone this weeb shit and fighting the AI usually teaches you bad habits.
I planned on playing Baiken and Slayer and use my old and faithful XBOX 360 controller.

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Don't buy gg on pc. I get more matches for super turbo and vampire savior on fightcade so I don't bother. I have a feeling that ps4 is where to own it.

Any other USA pc NEETs that can play with me during the day?

>>384957036
Alright, hope that wasn't too much for you.

>>384957225
Did you go through the tutorial? All of it? If you feel overwhelmed just focus on one system mechanic at a time and slowly build up.

As for motivation, it's cliche but you gotta find it within yourself a reason to get better, whether it be because you hate losing or you like winning or you just enjoy the sense of progression you get when you improve in a game like this. As far as nobody being local to play with that's what netplay is for.

It's a process anon, you won't get good in any short amount of time.

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>>384957225

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>>384951010
>slayer difficult when half his moves have tons of invincibility and zero recovery
>i-no in difficult and not intense because she's easy as fuck to rape
>kum in difficult
>raven in basic and not regular
>jam in regular and not difficult
>millia and zato in intense
>johnny in intense
>sin in regular

i sure got memed on rite now

>>384957490
I gotta get practice on my two somehow

>>384951010
>millia in intense
>INO not

it's garbage.

>>384957225
The thrill of competition and the desire to beat people. Playing the game and improving is its own form of fun, but the main reason people play is because winning is fun. Get ready to lose over and over and over again while you're still learning, though.

Who do I play in Guilty Gear if I liked how Noel played in Blazblue? I guess another way to word that is who should I play if I suck and like fast characters?

>>384957053
Alright I just tried it. Feels the same to me. You're probably just getting distracted by the text and graphics like I did.

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>>384951010
I remember when I first posted this. Instant (You)s. Here, anon, have another

>>384958027
Play Chipp if you wanna go fucking sanic speed

>>384957772
It's a list of cumulative difficultly taking into account execution requirements, complexity of strategy, and how hard it is to play the character optimally. I'd say it's pretty well put together.

>>384958151
...and die in 2 gatlings?

>>384958437
Don't get hit :^)

>>384957225
I know you hope to get some easy answer, but there really isn't one.
I started GG as my first fighting game when Rev2 came out so I can tell you what I did, don't know if it'll help but here goes.
Learn a easy combo, that preferrably leads to a knockdown. Play online. Get destroyed. When you're feeling like not playing anymore, try to watch some match videos, especially of the character you want to learn. Try to take something from the pro matches, even if it's just a slighty harder basic combo. Rince and repeat.
Also a good warm-up before you go online is trying to do some of the advanced combos in the combo mode.

But then again I'm still a scrub so feel free to ignore all this if you get better advice.

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>>384938189
I use Chipp because his retard speed is satisfying.

>guilty gear has best boy AND best girl across all weeb games
>theyre also a couple

Why are Dizzy and Ky so perfect

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>>384958726

>>384958054
Yeah, that might be it, thanks for trying it out for me.

>>384957840
You did a lot better that time. Good job man.

>>384958975
Thanks, you're pretty good

defend this goobers
https://twitter.com/chikin5922/status/850512679756156928

Dat Chipp

>>384958115
I mean as a very general concept I can't really disagree with this.

>>384959193
Chipp is still a better character. He's better than he's ever been in the series as a matter of fact.

>>384959193

See >>384958471

>>384959224
chipp v jam is speeeeedy

Christ, my execution is in the shitter. That's twice now that I ended up superjumping instead of doing puffball super.

Slightly related question, how's the xbone dpad compared to the 360?

>>384959193
>100 hit combo
wew

hmm thinking of playing Jam because I like fast characters. I just wish she had better oki. But I'm also thinking of playing Raven. who should I play?

>>384959685
Raven if you want to win

Jam if you're loyal to your waifu

>>384959685
The last thing anybody needs is more Ravens and Johnnys.

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>>384959685
Raven is for annoying idiots (almost as bad as Leo). Jam has meat-bun tits.

>>384959685
>Jam
No wins.
People have respect for you.
>Raven
Wins.
People will hate you.

>>384948998
>his ghosts
Nope, not even storywise are they going to pay attention to updating his moveset.

It's going to be batshit insane and you're going to like it, only with an updated outfit.

>>384939326
>Pick the one with the cutest girls
But I can't decide between Nine and Jack-O!

>>384960019
Nah Pachi already said they'd update/change how his ghosts work.

>>384960220
Gotta install the dragon every time.

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>>384959193

>>384960220
READY UUUUUP

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>>384960220

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>>384960220
>tfw instant killing a sol that runs out of dragon install

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>>384956264
Does having a stick even matter for gg xrd?

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>>384960462
BBCT-CSE was the golden age of combo videos. Discuss.

>>384958115
You can't really even disagree with this except put Johnny in "1 month" and Ram in "1 week"

>>384959628
It feels much better but it stops working fast

>>384960220
RADIOOOOOOO

i play ky because he is literally the best husbando who will murder anyone who insinuates that youre a monster

which i am

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>>384960728
Agreed. I got bored of Ram and had to move on to Zato to satisfy my autistic lab needs.

who /axel/ here

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Does anyone ITT hate fighting Axls? Had two people in a lobby tell me that.

What is your most hated character to fight?

>>384961168
Axl is my most hated

>>384961168
Potemkin

>>384961168
i only hate chipp, at least the other top tiers are interesting to fight. axl is a misunderstood character, people just don't know how to fight him or they are unlucky enough to have picked one of the characters that he shits on.

>>384961168
fuck ram and bedman

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>>384960661
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29893540
The best one was made for CF though

>>384941101
look up ShinKensou's Chipp guide, tons of information from the mindset of playing chipp into actual gameplay

There's still room in the PS4 lobby. ID is jiib. Don't worry about being bad, I'm awful.

I'd vote for this Chipp

>>384951010
>>384958115
Is there one like this for Blazblue?
I picked up CF a few days ago on Steam and have never played a BB game before.

>>384961603
That's a lot of autistic editing for a combo video.

>>384961603
I'm sorry anon but you need more than fancy editing to be good for me. I wish the fucking dustloop combo video archive still existed so I could find some old stuff. The best ones were probably Ragna double blood kain combos during CSE(?) era with the Blood Stain Child music and one of the early Makoto videos around CS1 with Capsule music. And maybe Arakune Renai Circulation.

damn i fucked up there

>>384958115
Leo belongs in his own tier of

>I don't even play this game lol

>>384962121
Rip in pieces.

sure feels like shit when you play someone above your level one game and they left as soon they beat you man how i suppose to learn like this

>>384962425
mission mode

>>384962519
already beat them all

>>384961985
>Easier Than Easy
Mai

>Basic
Ragna, Jin, Noel, Lambda, Celica, Bullet, Terumi, Es

>Regular
Tager, Hakumen, Tsubaki, Kagura, Platinum, Hibiki, Susanoo, Azrael, Nine, Makoto,

>Hard
Litchi, Arakune, Kokonoe, Mu-12, Nu-13, Bang, Izayoi, Amane,

>Intense
Rachel, Carl, Naoto, Valkenhayn, Taokaka, Hazama

Something like this, might have missed someone

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>>384962073
>>384962061
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bYDMweRlgE
Enjoy UNGA Magic

>>384957764
lit pic ty

Jesus, that baited burst was fucking glorious.

>>384957417
literally a ton, join the discord

>>384962704
Why do I always get drawn to the hardest fucking characters

>>384962425
Yeah it happens sometimes. Most people usually play me at least 5 times before they leave, even if they're vastly better than me.

>>384962073
I fucking found it bros

Ragna: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm14955041

Makoto: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12039130

Arakune: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jqb7m4mN7og

jeez spartan throwing me into that ky laser-thing was BRUTAL

>>384962073
The best in BBCP was Carl with oki setups exhibition tuned to Hairspray's YOU CANT STOP THE BEAT. Fucking amazing.

Oh shit that Potemkin super

>>384957417
You can just search for player rooms (do not do world lobbies, they add latency and you can't rematch as fast on them). If I can find a few rooms at 9am est on the east coast, it's not hard to find matches.

Jam and her tiny little arms and legs can't compare to Pot's huge normals. It's kinda funny.

>>384960220
Dragon Install isn't as much of a meme since it got buffed in Xrd, Sol players still treat it that way though. I can only remember one good match where it was used, mainly to jank out a win with full screen Grand Viper.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCZ02PhBKso

Anyone know of any other tournament matches where DI was used?

Oh shit we making lobbies now? Is this going to be a regular thing? I just might upgrade on PS4 if so. I've been bumming it out on an "acquired"
copy of Rev 2 so I don't fall too far behind..

>>384938678
Complete beginner, what characters are the most fun to play? Just messing around in dojo right now learning different specials

How do you avoid that huge damage grab Potemkin does on block?

FUCK
I THOUGHT DID THE PUFFBALL SUPER

How much longer is the PS4 lobby gonna be around, i wanna join in but can't right now

>>384962795
Kek, copyright claimed.

>>384963696
Ps4 lobby, jiib.

Now go.

>>384963921
Change youtube.com to youpak.com to get around region blocks

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>Perfect

>>384963914
Jump, high level pots will FUCK you either way.

>>384963696
I'll try to do them regularly. It's harder when my brother and nieces are around though.

>>384963920
Probably another hour or two. Once people get sick of my scrub Jam play.